Israel / Palestine News Thread

[hundreth]

5 hours ago, Merkabah Star said:

Trump would get my vote if i was American. Same kind of thing. Both sides are lying scumbags. Better to be with the guy that’s not afraid to say it to your face. 😀

Yeah, and it seems like a majority of Americans agree with you and will vote him in very soon.

I agree both sides are lying scumbags, but there are levels to this. At the end of the day, you need to be practical. If one side is lying and causes level 5 damage, and the other side lies while spewing populist propaganda which sounds honest and causes level 10 damage - you need to do that calculus. 

"Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face" is not the answer here.

[Danioover9000]

@Gennadiy1981

11 hours ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

Man you need to do some soul searching. You are being very bitter. This is a conscious politics forum, no need to be right and everyone else is wrong. You stick to your beliefs. Why do you think you can convince us but we cannot convince you. This world is not black and white and there are many perspectives and opinions and views. 

   Because I'm chill and cool with @Merkabah Star, @Raze, @Karmadhi, @zazen, @Twentyfirst and some more. They all had the  most incredible patience dealing with you, @Nivsch, @Vrubel, @Lila9, @Heaven, @hundreth downplaying the suffering caused by the Likud party's Israel towards Palestinians! You're side loves to play dumb and pedantic with terminologies, okay with dropping a nuke onto Gaza and claiming that's technically not genocide at all. Just like Destiny you lot are morally bankrupt.

Edited June 19 by Danioover9000

[Karmadhi]

@Danioover9000 It is just for fun at this point. Nobody will change their mind if they did not change it yet. 

Neither we, or them.

For me it is interesting because I have 0 friends that side with Israel and therefore it was the chance to learn from their pov.

And we had very varied Israelis here, from least to most hardcore.

The best playground to test Leo bias videos (including ours).

We are also biased.

By we, I mean pro Palestinians.

Edited June 19 by Karmadhi

[Nivsch]

Nice to see IDF spokesman too joins the critisism against the government. Feels a significant move to me.

[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch Okay, this is something significant. Hopefully more join in.

9 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Nice to see IDF spokesman too joins the critisism against the government. Feels a significant move to me.

 

[Nivsch]

Tel Aviv sunset during @Vrubel and I meeting three weeks ago. Credit to @Vrubel to the surreal photo 🤩

Edited June 19 by Nivsch

[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch

3 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Tel Aviv sunset during @Vrubel and I meeting three weeks ago. Credit to @Vrubel to the surreal photo 🤩

   Yeah fantastic sunset. The price of such a beautiful view: displacement of Palestinians that were there...🤦‍♀️

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Nivsch

   Yeah fantastic sunset. The price of such a beautiful view: displacement of Palestinians that were there...🤦‍♀️

Do you mean Jaffa arabs who live peacefuly aside the jews today less than 2 km away from this picture?

Edited June 19 by Nivsch

[Karmadhi]

3 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Nice to see IDF spokesman too joins the critisism against the government. Feels a significant move to me.

 

They fear getting charged by the ICC. Now they are slowly trying to distance themselves  

[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Do you mean Jaffa arabs who live peacefuly aside the jews today less than 2 km away from this picture?

   I mean the historical displacement you guys keep ignoring.

[Twentyfirst]

It's crazy how Israelis are have every American congressman's ear and control most of the media and it's still blasphemous to speak out against them hahahaha. In America you can make fun of Jesus but don't dare say anything about the genocidal Israeli's 

Edited June 19 by Twentyfirst

[Twentyfirst]

9 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Gennadiy1981

   Because I'm chill and cool with @Merkabah Star, @Raze, @Karmadhi, @zazen, @Twentyfirst and some more. They all had the  most incredible patience dealing with you, @Nivsch, @Vrubel, @Lila9, @Heaven, @hundreth downplaying the suffering caused by the Likud party's Israel towards Palestinians! You're side loves to play dumb and pedantic with terminologies, okay with dropping a nuke onto Gaza and claiming that's technically not genocide at all. Just like Destiny you lot are morally bankrupt.

Yeah they will never listen. They know that another October 7th attack might kill them and their families. They know they can leave to another safer country. They know their government doesn't care about the hostages and possibly let Oct 7 happen. They know they are killing innocent children for no reason. They are insane zionist shills.

They manipulate the entire world with their propaganda so everyone is a victim of zionism. Palestinians and the Arab world have been trying to tell people since forever 

Edited June 19 by Twentyfirst

[Raze]

 

Edited June 20 by Raze

[Twentyfirst]

Either America is completely brainwashed and enlsaved by the Israelis or they are genocidal partners with the Israelis. Forget your election. You have bigger fish to fry 

[Yimpa]

It just goes on and on and on and on…

[Gennadiy1981]

5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Nivsch

   I mean the historical displacement you guys keep ignoring.

Ok @Danioover9000 you are right, but now it’s our sunset so deal with it. Who cares what happened before or in previous life or thousand years ago we have facts on the ground now and we are here to stay. But guess what, the sunset happens in every part of the world, so wherever those individuals are (outside Israel of course) they get the same view as I do and believe it or not the same view as you do.

Anyways, I read your posts and I see you are very bitter and angry about this particular topic. I am giving you a conscious advice, after all we are in the most intellectual forum probably on the planet. And as Leo mentioned in his trap video, don’t radicalize yourself, it will not get you nowhere. 
 

I see you keep posting things, you are being bitter at others, but at the end of the day you are only damaging your own psyche. So what can you do about it? And I mean about Israel. (Of course thank God you can’t do anything, sarcasm on my end, sorry for that can’t help), but seriously, what can you do about it, except being angry and not sure what you do at home, perhaps punching the wall. You see this all distraction is not only toxic, but it takes you away from awakening yourself, indeed this hatred that you have, only brings to negative frequency and makes you more depressed and more violent. Why don’t you instead listen to Leo’s lectures, he actually released one few weeks ago. As @Karmadhi pointed out, it’s just a dialogue and difference of opinions here, that’s really all. Remember love is much higher frequency that hate. 
 

And I will say it again but I am not here to convince you, at least two videos you posted were fake, it’s very similar to conspiracy theory. And as Leo stated many times, what will you do about it? Nothing? All it will distract you from learning and getting to higher development stages. Look about me, I will admit, there are some conspiracy theories I may believe in but I am not obsessed about them. Maybe when I have a dinner I can listen to one but I will not be following up or collecting evidence and collating other similar videos, because it will not get me anywhere. 
 

And by the way, I am giving you an advice from one human being to another. The choice is really yours. And look at one point we all get sucked into some events and that takes the best of us. Like last year I really got sucked into the October 7th tell you the truth and I felt that it really bothered me to continue living especially with conspiracy theories that government perhaps allowed this or something. But don’t jump out of your chair and supporting me, it’s not proven and there is no evidence except some videos by random individuals who are far away from any political positions. I am just giving you an example that it started with few videos and it’s sucked me in. So what I did, I got a sitter (strongly recommended for higher doses) and took a strong dose of mushrooms (penis envy, those even in small doses are very strong), and had very profound experience and it showed me to stay away from all those radical and perhaps fake YouTube clips, and believe me I felt so much better and stopped watching that nonsense and instead watch more of videos about enlightenment, plant medicines, peoples journey into Amazon and different retreats and so on.

My friend I am giving you a humble advice, but it’s your call to accept it or deny it at this moment, but with that attitude you will not get anywhere. 

[zazen]

The UN Human Rights Council has investigated Israel's war in detail - and the conclusions are damming.

"We conclude that Israeli authorities are responsible for war crimes, crimes against humanity.. including extermination, internationally directing attacks against civilians... using starvation as a method of war... sexual and gender-based violence..."

https://x.com/tparsi/status/1803434047927902395?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ

 

Looks like Israel is gearing up for Lebanon while Bibi is scolding the US. Netenyahu - "I told Secretary Blinken it's inconceivable that in the past few months, the administration has been withholding weapons and ammunitions to Israel"

Alon Mirzahi - “I have watched the full Hezbollah video again, closely, and it is so outrageous. The level of intelligence and the plethora of high-quality, strategic targets identifiable by picture is staggering. It also means jamming will not help to protect these sites, as drones/missiles will not have to communicate or be actively guided from Lebanon: they will be able to operate independently. 

And, as I've said earlier, the IDF can only imagine what Hezbollah knows beyond what it's flaunting. This is high-level psychological warfare against Israel (both its military and civil society). “

 

Edward Snowden - “I'm sorry, but Biden going full "Genocide Joe"—torching his electoral chances and 80% of Gaza in order to cover for Bibi's war crimes—only to have Bibi (predictably) start running campaign ads for Trump is just so, so perfectly Scorpion-and-the-Frog. You couldn't write it better.”

https://x.com/snowden/status/1803137446294724967?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ

[Nivsch]

Former senior commander in Israeli Air Force and today and during recent years one of the biggest activists against Netanyahu, Amir Haskel, joined the protests for the return of the hostages.

In the second photo - distributing flyers about the demonstrations in the train, a week ago.

Edited June 20 by Nivsch

[Danioover9000]

@Gennadiy1981

9 hours ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

Ok @Danioover9000 you are right, but now it’s our sunset so deal with it. Who cares what happened before or in previous life or thousand years ago we have facts on the ground now and we are here to stay. But guess what, the sunset happens in every part of the world, so wherever those individuals are (outside Israel of course) they get the same view as I do and believe it or not the same view as you do.

Anyways, I read your posts and I see you are very bitter and angry about this particular topic. I am giving you a conscious advice, after all we are in the most intellectual forum probably on the planet. And as Leo mentioned in his trap video, don’t radicalize yourself, it will not get you nowhere. 
 

I see you keep posting things, you are being bitter at others, but at the end of the day you are only damaging your own psyche. So what can you do about it? And I mean about Israel. (Of course thank God you can’t do anything, sarcasm on my end, sorry for that can’t help), but seriously, what can you do about it, except being angry and not sure what you do at home, perhaps punching the wall. You see this all distraction is not only toxic, but it takes you away from awakening yourself, indeed this hatred that you have, only brings to negative frequency and makes you more depressed and more violent. Why don’t you instead listen to Leo’s lectures, he actually released one few weeks ago. As @Karmadhi pointed out, it’s just a dialogue and difference of opinions here, that’s really all. Remember love is much higher frequency that hate. 
 

And I will say it again but I am not here to convince you, at least two videos you posted were fake, it’s very similar to conspiracy theory. And as Leo stated many times, what will you do about it? Nothing? All it will distract you from learning and getting to higher development stages. Look about me, I will admit, there are some conspiracy theories I may believe in but I am not obsessed about them. Maybe when I have a dinner I can listen to one but I will not be following up or collecting evidence and collating other similar videos, because it will not get me anywhere. 
 

And by the way, I am giving you an advice from one human being to another. The choice is really yours. And look at one point we all get sucked into some events and that takes the best of us. Like last year I really got sucked into the October 7th tell you the truth and I felt that it really bothered me to continue living especially with conspiracy theories that government perhaps allowed this or something. But don’t jump out of your chair and supporting me, it’s not proven and there is no evidence except some videos by random individuals who are far away from any political positions. I am just giving you an example that it started with few videos and it’s sucked me in. So what I did, I got a sitter (strongly recommended for higher doses) and took a strong dose of mushrooms (penis envy, those even in small doses are very strong), and had very profound experience and it showed me to stay away from all those radical and perhaps fake YouTube clips, and believe me I felt so much better and stopped watching that nonsense and instead watch more of videos about enlightenment, plant medicines, peoples journey into Amazon and different retreats and so on.

My friend I am giving you a humble advice, but it’s your call to accept it or deny it at this moment, but with that attitude you will not get anywhere. 

   GTFO my back stalker, and save your apologia nonsense. Go save your country from the Likud party Zionists, instead of throwing at me a wall of text!

[Danioover9000]

@zazen

5 hours ago, zazen said:

The UN Human Rights Council has investigated Israel's war in detail - and the conclusions are damming.

"We conclude that Israeli authorities are responsible for war crimes, crimes against humanity.. including extermination, internationally directing attacks against civilians... using starvation as a method of war... sexual and gender-based violence..."

https://x.com/tparsi/status/1803434047927902395?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ

 

Looks like Israel is gearing up for Lebanon while Bibi is scolding the US. Netenyahu - "I told Secretary Blinken it's inconceivable that in the past few months, the administration has been withholding weapons and ammunitions to Israel"

Alon Mirzahi - “I have watched the full Hezbollah video again, closely, and it is so outrageous. The level of intelligence and the plethora of high-quality, strategic targets identifiable by picture is staggering. It also means jamming will not help to protect these sites, as drones/missiles will not have to communicate or be actively guided from Lebanon: they will be able to operate independently. 

And, as I've said earlier, the IDF can only imagine what Hezbollah knows beyond what it's flaunting. This is high-level psychological warfare against Israel (both its military and civil society). “

 

Edward Snowden - “I'm sorry, but Biden going full "Genocide Joe"—torching his electoral chances and 80% of Gaza in order to cover for Bibi's war crimes—only to have Bibi (predictably) start running campaign ads for Trump is just so, so perfectly Scorpion-and-the-Frog. You couldn't write it better.”

https://x.com/snowden/status/1803137446294724967?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ

TRUE! It's insane this is even reality!