Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Karmadhi]

25 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

No thanks, I am happy to keep my own country where I can be a master of my own fate. I don’t want to be a minority under majority anymore. It’s fair that we have Christian countries, it’s fair that we have 56 Muslim countries and it’s fair to have one Jewish country. For example I want to live in a country that is closed on religious holidays, that I don’t need to ask boss for a day off, that I can be off on the entire week of Passover or entire week of Sukkoth (holiday of tabernacle). And by the way I used to live back on former Soviet Union where I was persecuted for being religious person, so no thanks and never again would I want to live under gentile rules. I want to have my own country with my own religious lifestyle. 
 

and to answer your other question, the world does not hate Israel, it’s just some individuals on some forms go bizarre that they cannot do much. We still have support of USA by the way who keep giving us weapons till now and we have support form most of the Europe. And when there was Eurovision we were totally fine there and got a good winning number there. So we are good. I don’t pay attention to different blogs.

And finally, the way we act most countries would act in the similar way, not sure why you are judging us different, but here is one Jew, who could care less. You want to speak of morality it’s fine but be fair, but if you start biasing against us, to me you are just another human made from flesh and blood. We take our allegiance to the Creator.

@Danioover9000 Bruh i cant...

[Twentyfirst]

Just gonna put this here again. Israel totally IS Nazi Germany

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7q4i7kydd1/

[Twentyfirst]

[Twentyfirst]

The Jewish identity is the weakest most fragile identity to ever exist. It's like a cardboard cutout thats supported by two wooded sticks

[Merkabah Star]

Benny Gantz, a member of Israel's three-man war Cabinet, has announced his resignation. Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks breaks down this huge news.

 

[Vrubel]

8 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Considering most of them are Europeans it makes sense. They are not Middle Easterns 

That's factually false but whatever gets you off. 

Lots of people fit into Western society that's the beauty of it. It's very open and cosmopolitan. Most Asians, Latinos and Eastern Europeans integrate perfectly well. There is this one group though who lives by completely opposite sets of values and needs to take special classes on why it's not okay to harass or rape women when they're dressed in a sexy manner. 

[Merkabah Star]

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Nearly half of all Israeli Jews are descended from Jews who made aliyah from Europe, while around the same number are descended from Jews who made aliyah from Arab countries, Iran, Turkey, and Central Asia. Over two hundred thousand are, or are descended from, Ethiopian and Indian Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Jews

 

 

[Merkabah Star]

43 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

There is this one group though who lives by completely opposite sets of values and needs to take special classes on why it's not okay to harass or rape women when they're dressed in a sexy manner. 

Thats factually false, i grew up with a lot of arabs who’s families fled war zones to move to my country and none of them were rapists or harassed women and they all integrated into their new western country well. There are exceptions to that though as with any foreign culture integrating into a new country, it’s a culture clash. 

African immigrants are getting the bad press these days. 

[Nemra]

41 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

There is this one group though who lives by completely opposite sets of values and needs to take special classes on why it's not okay to harass or rape women when they're dressed in a sexy manner. 

I don't think saying that they are less developed means that they need to be killed.

E.g., Children are less developed than their parents. Should they be beaten for being children?

In this case, I think the Israeli government is acting like an abusive parent who beats up his/her child for being a child and gaslights others, saying that the child is behaving badly and it's his/her responsibility to teach them a lesson.

[zazen]

44 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

That's factually false but whatever gets you off. 

Lots of people fit into Western society that's the beauty of it. It's very open and cosmopolitan. Most Asians, Latinos and Eastern Europeans integrate perfectly well. There is this one group though who lives by completely opposite sets of values and needs to take special classes on why it's not okay to harass or rape women when they're dressed in a sexy manner. 

Asians, Latinos, and Eastern Europeans didn’t just waltz in and integrate smoothly either though. Most immigrant groups have been discriminated against. The Chinese were called the "Yellow Peril," Italians were "wops," Irish were "micks." People said they were dirty, lazy or criminal.

Propaganda will want you to think every Muslim is one burka away from a rape spree when most sexual assaults are committed by someone the victim knows. 

Is it "Western values" when Catholic priests fiddle kids? When Hollywood big shots treat actresses like personal fuck toys? When politicians are grabbing pussies? Perhaps thats different because they wear suits instead of robes.

The context of poverty, marginalization and trauma are left out of the statistics. A lot of migrants are from war-torn homes, stuck in ghetto-like conditions, denied work or dignity - and we act shocked when some snap.

Europe wasn’t some rape-free paradise before the scary brown people showed up. Catholic Church scandals and charming British aristocrats and their "traditions" at boarding schools exist. Rape is about power, not passports. Crime and rape aren’t imports but depraved acts fostered in a Petri dish of horrid conditions.

[Vrubel]

2 minutes ago, zazen said:

Asians, Latinos, and Eastern Europeans didn’t just waltz in and integrate smoothly either though. Most immigrant groups have been discriminated against. The Chinese were called the "Yellow Peril," Italians were "wops," Irish were "micks." People said they were dirty, lazy or criminal.

Propaganda will want you to think every Muslim is one burka away from a rape spree when most sexual assaults are committed by someone the victim knows. 

Is it "Western values" when Catholic priests fiddle kids? When Hollywood big shots treat actresses like personal fuck toys? When politicians are grabbing pussies? Perhaps thats different because they wear suits instead of robes.

The context of poverty, marginalization and trauma are left out of the statistics. A lot of migrants are from war-torn homes, stuck in ghetto-like conditions, denied work or dignity - and we act shocked when some snap.

Europe wasn’t some rape-free paradise before the scary brown people showed up. Catholic Church scandals and charming British aristocrats and their "traditions" at boarding schools exist. Rape is about power, not passports. Crime and rape aren’t imports but depraved acts fostered in a Petri dish of horrid conditions.

I get it, there is a nuance. This is a complex touchy topic. But it's also way less romantic than you think. Many of them are just stage-red people who come from a strict environment to a very free and lax one, get bored and commit crimes. This is especially true for the youth as they might wise up when they mature. But none of this "poor oppressed people snapping due to the sheer weight of the injustice they receive in the hell of their Swedish Ghettos". Many just lack basic values, principles and gratitude for their host country who took them in. 

[Vrubel]

21 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I don't think saying that they are less developed means that they need to be killed.

I never said that. What an insane strawman.

However stage red does cause constant war and instability. That's just a fact, I have the entire Middle East as proof. Also the cartels in Mexico and the gangs in Brazil. Civilization and functioning society start at blue. 

Edited June 10 by Vrubel

[Karmadhi]

1 hour ago, Vrubel said:

That's factually false but whatever gets you off. 

Look I am not denying that they ORIGINATED from the Middle East. But when you stay 2000 years in Europe, you adopt European values and even your genetic composition changes you basically can be considered European. I mean, we all came from Africa originally yet we do not all call each other African. DNA tests are not allowed in Israel. Bibi came from Poland for example. He does not look Arab and even his last name used to be different, a Polish one until he changed it for political reasons. Same for Smotrich, he is Ukranian. There are some Arab Jews, like Ben Gvir is from Morocco for example but most are not from that region region. Palestinians tend to come from that region region. So they are more indeginious imo.

The connection Israelis had with that land 2000 years ago is a legit thing, but it does not justify displacing locals imo.

Key word here is IMO. Maybe some see it differently. I know Putin does which is why he thinks Ukraine should be 1 with Russia, because of shit from 700 years ago. But I do not agree with Putin on that one.

Edited June 10 by Karmadhi

[Karmadhi]

1 hour ago, Vrubel said:

Lots of people fit into Western society that's the beauty of it. It's very open and cosmopolitan. Most Asians, Latinos and Eastern Europeans integrate perfectly well. There is this one group though who lives by completely opposite sets of values and needs to take special classes on why it's not okay to harass or rape women when they're dressed in a sexy manner. 

Totally agree here.

[zazen]

10 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

I get it, there is a nuance. This is a complex touchy topic. But it's also way less romantic than you think. Many of them are just stage-red people who come from a strict environment to a very free and lax one, get bored and commit crimes. This is especially true for the youth as they might wise up when they mature. But none of this "poor oppressed people snapping due to the sheer weight of the injustice they receive in the hell of their Swedish Ghettos". Many just lack basic values, principles and gratitude for their host country who took them in. 

True, they can’t just simply blame conditions. Ideology and belief definitely influence behaviour. I was just providing some nuance.

What doesn’t help is that a lot of them in the countries that host them - have histories of those host countries ruining their heritage countries.

[Merkabah Star]

Best of Bassam Youseff owning tv hosts. 

He said when asked does Israel have the right to exist, that Israel has the right to go fuck itself. 😂😂

 

Edited June 10 by Merkabah Star

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Vrubel said:

I never said that. What an insane strawman.

What is the Israeli government doing right now?

5 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

Civilization and functioning society start at blue. 

And war doesn't end with red. What do you think nationalists do?

[Vrubel]

33 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

He said when asked does Israel have the right to exist, that Israel has the right to go fuck itself. 😂😂

Wow, such wisdom such class. The fact that you get off on that tells me more about you. 

 

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

And war doesn't end with red. What do you think nationalists do?

Most countries in the world are stage blue nationalists and they rarely fight with each other in today's world, let alone in high intensity. Russia is an exception here though their form of government is stage red maffia-like. Still, 90% of today's world warfare and deep instability is found in stage-red societies. Again, I have the whole Middle East as proof. Including the 99% of it that has no Jews. 

Edited June 10 by Vrubel

[Nivsch]

6 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

Wow, such wisdom such class. The fact that you get off on that tells me more about you. 

Yes such an insane cartoonish dehumanization no one takes seriously anymore.

[Karmadhi]

14 hours ago, Nivsch said:

@Vrubel The poisonous Ben Gvir wants now to join the core war cabinet. I glad Gantz left them this evening. Now the coalition has only 64 members. From below 61 they will collapse.

Is Ben Gvir and Smotrich popular in Israel? Not to your friends per say but in general. Non Israelis  tend to use them as proof whenever they want to shit on Israel 

"Look at these 2 guys, this is the face of Israel", is a typical comment you will get from people living in Europe for example.