Israel / Palestine News Thread

[lina]

17 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

If the actions of hamas are a myth in your opinion then how I am as an Israeli suppose to relate to all the other claims you make?

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html 

 

 

[Nivsch]

2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

"Damaged" means that the building is most likely no longer usable by people to live in (or conduct human activities) but it can still be repaired.

When reporters in Israel say a house in Sderot has been damaged from a hamas rocket, this is oftentimes a hole in one of the house's walls. Deadly to a human, but easily fixable. At the same way the houses in a street in Gaza that have been damaged indirectly from a bomb fell on only one of them. In the articles in the links written 50% "damaged or destroyed".

Edited May 28 by Nivsch

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, lina said:

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html 

 

 

OK there aren't 1500 murdered, no one has been kidnapped to Gaza and houses near Gaza border hasn't been burned. Everything was invented,

Edited May 28 by Nivsch

[lina]

Just now, Nivsch said:

OK there aren't 1500 murdered, no one has been kidnapped to Gaza and houses in Gaza border hasn't  been burned. Everthing was invented,

I didn't say that. I am referring to the cartoonishly evil stories that painted Hamas as dark ages barbarians or ISIS-like. 

Also Israel updated the number of the victims according to this article : "695 Israeli civilians, including 36 children, as well as 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139." https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths 

[Nivsch]

@lina People were burned alive in their homes when hamas hasn't succeded to physically breaking in.

What is worse than that?

There are so many burned homes in those Kibbutzes. 

[LambdaDelta]

Interesting developments

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/israeli-spy-chief-icc-prosecutor-war-crimes-inquiry

 

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According to accounts shared with ICC officials, he is alleged to have told her: “You should help us and let us take care of you. You don’t want to be getting into things that could compromise your security or that of your family.”

 

[Danioover9000]

@Leo Gura

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

50% is pretty aweful. I wasn't aware the number was so high.

Gaza basically has no hope for any kind of prosperity or success now. It will be decades of miserable filthy poverty, which will breed thousands of terrorists.

   Well the 70% of Gaza buildings destroyed was here for weeks in this thread and in the other locked one. Yes Gaza realistically has no hope for prosperity or success, and decades of misery and poverty will breed 1,000s of terrorists. What a colossal failure brought on by the Likud Party Zionists and Netanyahu. Sadly normal folk Israeli and Palestinians are caught in this vicious cycle with only one direction now.

[Loveeee]

The downfall of Israel 

[Danioover9000]

@Loveeee

15 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

The downfall of Israel 

   Did Albert Einstein really write that? If that's the case that's impressive integrity there!

[Nivsch]

Sorry but being kidnapped like this, all alone, in what you thought as your safe environment from childhood is the worst thing happening in this war. Nothing in this war is similar in the severity to this. This is a seperated league.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7hiqeDtf75/?igsh=eDl5MWR3ZGlwbzV3

Edited May 28 by Nivsch

[Merkabah Star]

Glenn Grrenwald on the Rafah Tent Massacre.

 

[Merkabah Star]

19 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Sorry but being kidnapped like this, all alone, in what you thought as your safe environment from childhood is the worst thing happening in this war. Nothing in this war is similar in the severity to this. This is a seperated league.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7hiqeDtf75/?igsh=eDl5MWR3ZGlwbzV3

That is sad, they should be home by now. Would have been easy for Israel to have a ceasefire to release more. 

Having your baby beheaded by a bomb and you holding it in your hands is equal or worse. All you see is one side. You have tunnel vision. 

 

[Nivsch]

[Loveeee]

54 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Loveeee

   Did Albert Einstein really write that? If that's the case that's impressive integrity there!

And foresight

[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch

11 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

   And guess what? 70% plus of Gaza being destroyed, so many bombings, so much of their social infrastructure like schools, hospitals, apartments, markets destroyed, guarantees HAMMAs and other terrorist groups to reform again and again and again until Israel wises up and helps them with a Palestinian state. You have the Likud party and the Zionists to thank for that and 80 plus years of apartheid and oppression.

[Danioover9000]

@Merkabah Star

40 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

Glenn Grrenwald on the Rafah Tent Massacre.

 

   It is surprising to see Glenn Greenwald has this take, as he's a bit right wing, but respect for him maintaining his rationality and call it out as it is. Of course he's got a bias against the mainstream, but good on him for this.

   Also Glenn versus Destiny in a debate, IMO mixed:

 

[Merkabah Star]

@Danioover9000

Glenn is Jewish too. I listen to both left and right with podcasts. Glenn feels more down the centre. Young Turks scream and shout, so does Megan Kelly. Glenn would never scream and shout. 😀 Glenn was on Megans show recently and she is so deluded about Israel and refuses to have anyone on that disagrees with her. Glenn is a regular on her show and a friend, so she went there for the first time and just showed how brainwashed she is on Israel. 

[Yimpa]

 

[Merkabah Star]

Republicans Sacrifice American Free Speech and Break Taboo to Shield Israel

 

[Leo Gura]

Einstein said:

"Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our two thousand years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us."

He clearly saw the problems of right-wing nationalist Zionism. Because it shares the same problems as right-wing German nationalism.

The problems of right-wing stage Blue nationalism are obvious in every nation and part of the world where they are tried, regardless of the content of beliefs or the ethnic or religious group in power. Because it's a structural problem.

The fatal flaw of the right-wing Israeli nationalists is that they believe that they are immune to these structural problems just because they are Jews, and Jews are somehow special. But a right-wing Jew is not more special than a right-wing German or American or Hindu.

Edited May 29 by Leo Gura