Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Merkabah Star]

I’ve watched this about 5 times over the last 2 days. Always loved Bernie, always was my favourite, potential president.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

According to this, every complex dynamics between two conflicting sides might be called a Genocide. Such inflation in those terms not only cheapen their value, but very quickly becomes an easy bypass for the brain from dealing with reality when at every moment it can shortcut his way to satisfaction by using this key word.

Then there are no longer two sides that escalating one another in thousands small steps, but only "one side" which is the problematic. That is a very convincing illusion for the crowd in the universities, but not for who hear about agreements, peace negotiations and terror attacks for 30 years.

   Would you like a list of different definitions and types of genocides? Like displacement genocide? Mass killings genocide? Language genocide? Misrepresentation genocide? Apartheid genocide? Splitting the hairs genocide? Apple pie genocide? Like when does it clearly show genocidal intent by Lukid party Zionist regime rulling over Israel versus Hummus genocide? Which genocide is worse?

[Vibes]

2 hours ago, Merkabah Star said:

I’ve watched this about 5 times over the last 2 days. Always loved Bernie, always was my favourite, potential president.

 

It's so beautiful and refreshing to listen to TRUTH!!!!

[Bobby_2021]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/world/middleeast/icc-arrest-warrants-israel-hamas.html

[Nivsch]

Benny Gantz, the 20th Chief of General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) from 2011 to 2015, and a Minister of Defense from 2020 to 2022, critisizes harshly the government.

"Returning of the hostages is of greater improtance than a military incursion into Rafah."

Edited April 29 by Nivsch

[Karmadhi]

@Merkabah Star And to think he is a Jew too!

Shows there is hope out there.

I am very impressed by American Jews support for this.

It shows to me that Israel brainwashing is so strong more than anything else, when people from the same group go against their actions

[Nivsch]

Lapid's "There Is A Future" Israeli Centrist party's new post.

What we would do differently?

1. The most urgent task: Hostages deal.

2. Enlarge humanitarian aid to Gaza.

3. Continue with his party's plan for a seperation between Israel and Palestine.

More inside.

Edited April 29 by Nivsch

[Bobby_2021]

look st his face. Dull and heavy. The lying and contradictions get to you eventually.

 

 

[zazen]

19 hours ago, Nivsch said:

According to this, every complex dynamics between two conflicting sides might be called a Genocide. Such inflation in those terms not only cheapen their value, but very quickly becomes an easy bypass for the brain from dealing with reality when at every moment it can shortcut his way to satisfaction by using this key word

That's true. Their has to be a reasonable use of words and terms - neither inflating them to apply to everything but also not stopping from using it when a situation seems to fit closely enough within the spectrum of the definition. Israel only want the most extreme case of the definition to apply or be used (ie Genocide only being Holocaust) to avoid accountability, condemnation and consequences.

Destroying hospitals, food crops and blocking aid comes close enough to the definition of destroying a group - if genocide is too strong a term then it definitely is collective punishment - and that alone warrants global protest and action. Just for comparison, in the 1990s the mass graves found in Srebrenica led to a genocide ruling against Bosnian Serbs - by the same world court now saying that Israel is committing a plausible genocide.

Recently the mass graves found at Gazan hospitals are already out the news cycle almost as if the world has become numb to the atrocities - or distracted by the campus protests which pro-Zionist provocatuers and agents have been smearing.

Inflation and cheapening of the word genocide would be like when pro-Palestinian protests take place and some Jewish people think this is genocidal or a prelude to the Holocaust (as Netenyahu said recently) regarding the campus protests. This is inflation to a absurd degree. Sure, their can be genocidal remarks by individuals and they should be addressed but overall no sane person can claim Jewish lives are at a mass level of threat because of these protests when Jewish groups are the best organised within these same protests.

Edited April 29 by zazen

[Danioover9000]

   Is Ben a Israeli typical name?

 

[zazen]

18 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

Would you like a list of different definitions and types of genocides? Like displacement genocide? Mass killings genocide? Language genocide? Misrepresentation genocide? Apartheid genocide? Splitting the hairs genocide? Apple pie genocide? Like when does it clearly show genocidal intent by Lukid party Zionist regime rulling over Israel versus Hummus genocide? Which genocide is worse?

Good use of dark humor to hit the nail on the head lol apple pie. How about 'walking my dog' genocide:

 

 

[Bobby_2021]

https://youtu.be/GGhwTILZvAQ?si=Ci8w9_7VbTni_XBS

 

 

[zazen]

20 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

https://youtu.be/GGhwTILZvAQ?si=Ci8w9_7VbTni_XBS

 

 

As warrants may be coming out for Israeli officials its a good time to note a US law called the "Hague Invasion Act." This law authorizes the US president to use force, including invading the Netherlands where the ICC is based, to release any individual detained by the ICC. This includes not only US personnel but also personnel from allied countries, including Israel. Coercion wrapped in geopolitics.

The US has a history of hostility toward the ICC, including sanctions imposed on ICC employees investigating potential war crimes by US allies in Afghanistan.  "Rules Based Order'' but uncle Sam don't give a damn. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act#:~:text=This authorization led to the,or rescue them from custody.

[Nivsch]

3 hours ago, zazen said:

Inflation and cheapening of the word genocide would be like when pro-Palestinian protests take place and some Jewish people think this is genocidal or a prelude to the Holocaust

This is indeed wrong too.

3 hours ago, zazen said:

food crops and blocking aid

The aid restriction was cririsized today by the head of the opposition in Israel.

This tactic most likely used to pressure hamas to release the hostages, but anyway a bad tactic.

3 hours ago, zazen said:

Destroying hospitals

Hospitals proven to be used widely by hamas for their purposes.

3 hours ago, zazen said:

definitely is collective punishment

I can agree on that term.

Our current far ultra right government does this.

Edited April 29 by Nivsch

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, zazen said:

As warrants may be coming out for Israeli officials its a good time to note a US law called the "Hague Invasion Act." This law authorizes the US president to use force, including invading the Netherlands where the ICC is based, to release any individual detained by the ICC. This includes not only US personnel but also personnel from allied countries, including Israel. Coercion wrapped in geopolitics.

The US has a history of hostility toward the ICC, including sanctions imposed on ICC employees investigating potential war crimes by US allies in Afghanistan.  "Rules Based Order'' but uncle Sam don't give a damn. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act#:~:text=This authorization led to the,or rescue them from custody.

Fun times about to begin.

They should go ahead with the arrest. It should lay the hypocrisy of the west bare for the world to see.

[Merkabah Star]

6 hours ago, zazen said:

This law authorizes the US president to use force, including invading the Netherlands where the ICC is based, to release any individual detained by the ICC. This includes not only US personnel but also personnel from allied countries, including Israel. Coercion wrapped in geopolitics.

Oh boy. 

😳

[Merkabah Star]

6 hours ago, zazen said:

Good use of dark humor to hit the nail on the head lol apple pie. How about 'walking my dog' genocide:

 

 

Omg. Karen is gunna Karen. 

[Merkabah Star]

 

[Karmadhi]

@Merkabah Star Just remember that when everyone shits on Biden for unwavering support of Israel, remember Trump is far worse regarding this issue.

 

[Karmadhi]

@Bobby_2021 The entire war cabinet of Israel should be hanged for crimes against humanity.

Bring bang hanging