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Sadhguru undergoes emergency brain surgery after ‘life-threatening bleeding’

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He's 66 years old, not in the greatest shape.  Probably doesn't do cardio, it should not be a surprise.  I hope he recovers well.  

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21 hours ago, Ishanga said:

in the end if he has left this place better than when he arrived then the job is done

Agree, but at what price? Could he have done things in a better way? or is sadhguru always perfect? How can we learn from his behaviour? Why are you triggered when his corruptions are pointed out? You should be grateful for that but it's the other way arround you feel attacked and that I'm discrediting him. No. I'm just discerning what is good and learning from what is bad, instead of idolizing him for his good qualities and denying his childish behaviours. 

I just say that Sadghuru could have taken a rest 4 weeks ago when he started suffering severe headaches. He could have listened to his doctor and make the analysis they were asking him to do. He then wouldn't have needed to take drugs to keep working. Then performing surgery, if necessary, with good preparation instead of focefully entering an emergency surgery last minute. How can you be in denial of all this? He has done 99% of his life well, happy for him, but if that 1% has done shit I'm gonna say it to you, no matter how offended you get, because you are putting him in a pedestal and denying his shadow. The same way I hope that even if I have done 99% of my life well, if I do 1% of shit you come and tell me blatantly, because that's how you grow and mature and that's the Truth after all. That is why I keep answering in a last hope for you to see the light of Truth in this matter.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

Just because Sadhguru has a lack of self love doesn't necessarily mean that his overworking, over dosing on pain killers/sedatives is a direct effect from Self Love.

It is. If he had more self love he wouldn't have arrived at those extrems.

17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

You can have some individuals who have self love, but are still addicted to pills, overworking, or eat too much.

It is a matter of degree. I'm sure he has lots of self love but not in this particular set of decisions he took. It's okay we all make mistakes.

17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

not guilty by association but treating Leo as some saint, and assuming that he is right in his talks about psychedelics and the nature of god.

Lol not at all ahahhaha. This is getting wild. I have always pointed out Leo's bullshit with the same compassion and ferocity as I have done with sadhguru and so has done he with me. That's how mature conversations go.

My takes on God and psychedelics come from direct experience. Surprisingly there is a lot of overlapping in our direct experience.

17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

You're are basically in this argument point letting most of the heavy lifting be done by Leo and not by your own argumentation to justify your past assertion about Sadhguru and his health condition.

If you did not get what I'm talking about when I say Self-Love, as it keeps being clear by your first paragraph, then I have to point you towards some external souce so that you get what I'm saying. I'm not gonna make you a 2h video explaining what I mean when I say Self-Love. This is not a lack of argumentation but an unwillingness from your part to investigate and learn what I mean when I say that Sadghuru lacked self-love in his actions. It is not in my responsability to convince you or to win this argument, I have already arrived at a deep fulfilling understanding on the matter. If any it should be you that is interested in getting what I'm saying instead of trying to get me again and again into this useless debate and make me waste my time when I'm doing this for you.

17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

justifies 70% of posts you did here demeaning Sadhguru and his health condition, and 30% is you appealing to centrism and both siding this issue? Is that a careful understanding of this situation?

This is my position:

15 minutes ago, Davino said:

I just say that Sadghuru could have taken a rest 4 weeks ago when he started suffering severe headaches. He could have listened to his doctor and make the analysis they were asking him to do. He then wouldn't have needed to take drugs to keep working. Then performing surgery, if necessary, with good preparation instead of focefully entering an emergency surgery last minute.

How could this have been solved? Self-Love

Why? Because loving your body and self would have meant him taking a rest. Loving himself would have meant listening to his doctors and doing the health analysis. Loving other people would have meant that he had to take a pause, to be able to work better in the future. He would have probably solved the problem earlier and better and would have already been helping people again, instead of spending more time in the hospital and working in severe pain. If you love yourself you are willing to listen to your body and not only hear it and shut it up with drugs. Self love in this way is both what caused the problem and what solved it. This is the reason why the high level understanding here is that Self-Love is what made Sadhguru commit this mistake and what will enable him to get out of it. Because if he doesn't love himself more and take care of his health and life, maybe next time there will be no more Sadhguru and he will die in the operating table. If he does love himself more and take care of his health and life, we'll keep having a great mystic which is comitted to make a positive impact in the world which we all are benefiting from.

 

17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

Or most readers here are misinterpreting your self-love because of your failures to define those terms and your mistakes to connect them to a convincing assertion about Sadhguru and his health conditions? Maybe it's more to do with how you communicated so far in this thread and how you handled opposition to your views?

Hopefully I have been clear this time. Maybe all of this was obvious to me but not to you and it made me feel like you were nagging me. 

 


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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1 hour ago, Davino said:

 

Agree, but at what price? Could he have done things in a better way? or is sadhguru always perfect? How can we learn from his behaviour? Why are you triggered when his corruptions are pointed out? You should be grateful for that but it's the other way arround you feel attacked and that I'm discrediting him. No. I'm just discerning what is good and learning from what is bad, instead of idolizing him for his good qualities and denying his childish behaviours. 

I just say that Sadghuru could have taken a rest 4 weeks ago when he started suffering severe headaches. He could have listened to his doctor and make the analysis they were asking him to do. He then wouldn't have needed to take drugs to keep working. Then performing surgery, if necessary, with good preparation instead of focefully entering an emergency surgery last minute. How can you be in denial of all this? He has done 99% of his life well, happy for him, but if that 1% has done shit I'm gonna say it to you, no matter how offended you get, because you are putting him in a pedestal and denying his shadow. The same way I hope that even if I have done 99% of my life well, if I do 1% of shit you come and tell me blatantly, because that's how you grow and mature and that's the Truth after all. That is why I keep answering in a last hope for you to see the light of Truth in this matter.

First everybody using this sort of language, 'Triggered" Lol, I'm just responding to your post about how you have something against him, I don't care one way or the other. I just think Your being way to critical, I personally have never looked at him as being perfect, and many times I have thought why doesn't he take a break, it even may be a bit too much exposure but its not in my hands, he can do what he wants how he wants, he has free will to do that. I agree that some are into the personality of "Sadhguru", I don't think he wants this to happen but it does, so what to do about it, maybe that is why at times he talks harshly to ppl, calling them stupid or that they do stupid things, its a way to bring them down in how they view him in a way, but the methods work and work has to be done by someone. Personally I think he should go back to the ashram and take a month or two off, let things cool down...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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6 hours ago, Yimpa said:

He has risen!!

 

OMG he's using a Cane, do Enlightened Ppl use Cane's??? Sadhguru should have thought this threw, now look at him, he has to use a cane, how can a perfect person be using a cane, what is this all about! Now my whole outlook on him has changed.... Lol:)


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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He's using sunglasses! Why do enlightened gurus need sunglasses?


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's using sunglasses! Why do enlightened gurus need sunglasses?

Exactly, what's up with That!


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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@Yimpa So happy to see him walking again in nature

Edited by Davino

God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's using sunglasses! Why do enlightened gurus need sunglasses?

Because it makes you look Badass:P

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Edited by Davino

God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He's using sunglasses! Why do enlightened gurus need sunglasses?

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Why not? 😎

Sadhguru looks even more badass than Neo with that snake crawling his arm!

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3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He's using sunglasses! Why do enlightened gurus need sunglasses?

Because they're enlightened!

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8 hours ago, TheSelf said:

 

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Sadhguru looks even more badass than Neo with that snake crawling his arm!

Sadghuru has played with snakes since he was a child. He is the responsible in the ashram to take snakes out of the temple

 

Edited by Davino

God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why do enlightened gurus need sunglasses?

Too much Light!


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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10 hours ago, Ishanga said:

OMG he's using a Cane, do Enlightened Ppl use Cane's???

They don't, obviously. He was just fooling us.
 

 


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46 minutes ago, Davino said:

Too much Light!

Emmitting from their eyes? 

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2 hours ago, Osaid said:

 

That's deep. Certainly this has been a life transforming event for Sadghuru.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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It's so sad that Sadhguru neglects his health. Does not exercise much and does not even take enough rest. 

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Bit of an update, Sadhguru explains here that he's willing to throw his life away for his work - 

"If you try to save yourself, you don't know the value of life."

Let's listen from the man himself before psychoanalyzing his lifestyle 😂

 

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