Is porn unhealthy

[Jason Actualization]

In order to optimize sexual performance in real life (i.e., erection quality) the optimal weekly view duration of porn expressed as a percent, rounded to the nearest whole number, is 0%.

I have a high libido and, as such, the advice I would offer myself and others in a similar position, is the following: 

Ideally, absent the opportunity to be intimate with someone else, you would either abstain altogether or use your imagination while masturbating, visualizing yourself performing the act. Often times I will simply recall sexual memories of mine that I am particularly fond of. 

The goal (speaking merely for myself) was always to make memories, not fap to fantasies (these are inversely proportional, i.e., as the former increases, the latter will decrease until it reaches zero).

[QVx]

Porn is great for distracting yourself from the pain of life. Sometimes we need that, as if we aren’t using porn then inherently we would be using something else.

Once you’re ready to face that pain, the use of porn and other distractions will begin to fall away.

If you’re using porn, ask yourself honestly what is causing you pain.

Wisdom does not lie in the judgement of the experience, it lies in the experience itself.

What is the experience of your life telling in this moment? What are you trying to escape from; the porn, or something deeper?

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, QVx said:

If you’re using porn, ask yourself honestly what is causing you pain.

Nothing. It's just there for no reason.

[bebotalk]

On 17/03/2024 at 7:47 PM, Schizophonia said:

You deserve no respect if you willingly watch other people have sex without cringing.

I don't see the connection. Expressing one's sexuality has little to do with respect. 

[Yimpa]

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Is porn unhealthy

Think of drugs. It’s not drugs in and of itself that’s healthy or unhealthy. What matters is how you use it and relate to it.

[bebotalk]

It's healthy to have a sexual desire and use healthy tools to express such.

Porn can be dangerous in part for performers, but that's not inherent to the industry as such. 

People buy products all the time that have abuse somewhere in the supply chain. Meat, mobile phones, and even growing fruit are examples of such. Nobody says not to buy apples, strawberries or bananas since fruit pickers can be illegal migrants. 

 

[Schizophonia]

13 hours ago, bebotalk said:

I don't see the connection. Expressing one's sexuality has little to do with respect. 

When you watch porn you dont "express your sexuality", you watch someone else do it.

In general it doesn't have anything to do with actual sexual relationships, nothing. 

It's like eat the waste in a public bin, and you lose your sexual energy for nothing. 

[bebotalk]

12 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

When you watch porn you dont "express your sexuality", you watch someone else do it.

In general it doesn't have anything to do with actual sexual relationships, nothing. 

It's like eat the waste in a public bin, and you lose your sexual energy for nothing. 

Peple often watch porn to explore and express their own sexuality. If a person likes BDSM, they'd see BDSM porn. there's nothing unusual about that. 

Porn is a fantasy and people who use it often use it as a fantasy. and? 

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, bebotalk said:

Peple often watch porn to explore and express their own sexuality. If a person likes BDSM, they'd see BDSM porn. there's nothing unusual about that. 

Porn is a fantasy and people who use it often use it as a fantasy. and? 

BDSM is mental illness.

No one wants to get used to BDSM, you want normal, nice sex, with love.
I don't want to encourage people to get into trouble when they should go see a psychiatrist.

If we just accept that, all that happens is that people go through life with these failings, and by extension, poor sexuality.

[bebotalk]

14 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

BDSM is mental illness.

No one wants to get used to BDSM, you want normal, nice sex, with love.
I don't want to encourage people to get into trouble when they should go see a psychiatrist.

If we just accept that, all that happens is that people go through life with these failings, and by extension, poor sexuality.

Is that proven it's a mental illness? or just your temple-inpsired ways promoted into "fact"?  There's nothing t accept. though maybe accept thoughts in your brain don't translate to reality 

[StarStruck]

Just now, bebotalk said:

Is that proven it's a mental illness? or just your temple-inpsired ways promoted into "fact"?  There's nothing t accept. though maybe accept thoughts in your brain don't translate to reality 

Japan is a country that lives 50 years ahead. A country where porn is watched a lot and you can see all the perversions, isolation and collapse of society. 

[Schizophonia]

8 minutes ago, bebotalk said:

Is that proven it's a mental

?

I studied Lacan, a bit Freud.

i also use common sense. You want a normal sexuality for several reasons.

if you need BDSM, it’s that you have in you psyche some blockage who prevents you to project certain energies in a normal symbolism.

Why being sodomized and do other weirds stuff when you can share LOVE « normally ».

It’s all what I say, I could be more clear but I don’t have the time/the will.

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or just your temple-inpsired ways promoted into "fact"?  

Lol, what is that ?

Edited March 27 by Schizophonia

[bebotalk]

Yes. you find x activity ick. so it's a mental illness. You've proven my point. Projected inner thinking. common sense can be subjective. what is sense to you may not be to others. Your reason like a temple-based person, since you openly project. But then proven psychiatry is false since some online dude's inner beliefs from his based seat of reasoning is all!!  Freud is largely discredited as it stands. but then your thoughts are the thoughts!

Edited March 27 by bebotalk

[bebotalk]

39 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Japan is a country that lives 50 years ahead. A country where porn is watched a lot and you can see all the perversions, isolation and collapse of society. 

Japan's issues are as much due to its culture and not just porn. It's not 50 years ahead of anything. It's funny how American conservatives literally think things are true and believe it's true.  But then you American conservatives, because you literally think crap in your brains as facts without evidence, would not see the truth. Japan actually bans the showing of genitals, which is not done in Western porn. In quite a few cases Japan is quite behind the West. There is no suicide forest in the USA for instance. 

 

 

[bebotalk]

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/10/13/japan/science-health/karoshi-report/. 

Not sure how this is related to porn. Japan's culture overall is unhealthy and doesn't lend to good physical or mental health. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

BDSM is mental illness.

No one wants to get used to BDSM, you want normal, nice sex, with love.
I don't want to encourage people to get into trouble when they should go see a psychiatrist.

If we just accept that, all that happens is that people go through life with these failings, and by extension, poor sexuality.

People sometimes use BDSM as a way to distract, fullfil a need or to escape. 90% of people are doing that, just using other means. Shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, work, whatever. BDSM is just another way. You're judging something that I'm assuming you've never done or have never been a part of. 

You're probably doing something to try and fulfill a need right now, but because it seems normal, you think you're different than BDSM people. Same thing, just different content.

[bebotalk]

 

I agree with this.

Everything in moderation. It's an old and perhaps cliche point, but true all the same. 

[Schizophonia]

@Princess Arabia @bebotalk

I invite people to have a normal sexuality, that's all, in an ideal psychological configuration you could enjoy a "vanilla" sexuality to the maximum, rather than degrading yourself, wasting time and money with escorts. who don't like you.
That's all I'm saying.

In fact, I may have had tendentious fantasies here and there, almost BDSM.
With a lot of introspection I realized that I was looking for my mother, except that a vanilla scenario held me too close to this original fantasy, and since my mother has always been quite borderline/demanding, this was stressful/disturbing.
In fact it is the majority of cases, a man or a woman who aggressively searches for his mother but avoids her at the same time because of the fear of being stressed or beaten, fear of breaking the anxiety (tr of the ambivalence.

 

For example, a daughter (I suppose women tend to have submissive scenarios) who has an imprint (and therefore somewhere an attavistic attachment) from her father, but who at the same time was very demanding, even authoritarian.
She will retain this dynamic there, her ideal fantasy would be to be with a strong man to whom she takes pleasure in "serving" including sexually, without going into details.
But if the relationship is too stressful and creates a more or less traumatic ambivalence, she will tend to avoid this scenario for scenarios that are similar without exactly finding the father.
So she will engage in non-pleasant, degrading relationships, where she will act like a bitch, get ejaculated on or whatever, because the only way to find this enjoyment in a normal sexuality in love is to find his father, which triggers anxiety.
There are plenty of scenarios that lead to paraphilias and none of them are healthy.
Except that you may actually spend most of your life in scenarios, not just sexual but in life in general, that are undesirable. This is what this liberal mentality encourages.

There is a difference between wanting to harm people who have differences, and wanting to bring them as far as possible into a more ideal way of life in the long term.
Liberals like to mix things up to discredit certain conservative opinions.

Edited March 28 by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

What i've said is just as valable for escort girls, ones who own an onlyfan, pronographic actresses...

Not only consumers.  

[bebotalk]

On 28/03/2024 at 0:28 PM, Schizophonia said:

@Princess Arabia @bebotalk

I invite people to have a normal sexuality, that's all, in an ideal psychological configuration you could enjoy a "vanilla" sexuality to the maximum, rather than degrading yourself, wasting time and money with escorts. who don't like you.
That's all I'm saying.

In fact, I may have had tendentious fantasies here and there, almost BDSM.
With a lot of introspection I realized that I was looking for my mother, except that a vanilla scenario held me too close to this original fantasy, and since my mother has always been quite borderline/demanding, this was stressful/disturbing.
In fact it is the majority of cases, a man or a woman who aggressively searches for his mother but avoids her at the same time because of the fear of being stressed or beaten, fear of breaking the anxiety (tr of the ambivalence.

 

For example, a daughter (I suppose women tend to have submissive scenarios) who has an imprint (and therefore somewhere an attavistic attachment) from her father, but who at the same time was very demanding, even authoritarian.
She will retain this dynamic there, her ideal fantasy would be to be with a strong man to whom she takes pleasure in "serving" including sexually, without going into details.
But if the relationship is too stressful and creates a more or less traumatic ambivalence, she will tend to avoid this scenario for scenarios that are similar without exactly finding the father.
So she will engage in non-pleasant, degrading relationships, where she will act like a bitch, get ejaculated on or whatever, because the only way to find this enjoyment in a normal sexuality in love is to find his father, which triggers anxiety.
There are plenty of scenarios that lead to paraphilias and none of them are healthy.
Except that you may actually spend most of your life in scenarios, not just sexual but in life in general, that are undesirable. This is what this liberal mentality encourages.

There is a difference between wanting to harm people who have differences, and wanting to bring them as far as possible into a more ideal way of life in the long term.
Liberals like to mix things up to discredit certain conservative opinions.

Your thoughts are oddly stated. I guess this is edgelord English, driven by a pastor or some other unintelligent and blinded person in one's youth. Tell me "you don't know me!!" did you pastor tell you you're that special, since it's not a common belief.