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Truth isn't merely an intellectual matter, but a spiritual matter. Truth has to do with your soul, it will move you, make you cry in joy of bliss and ecstasy. That's the power of truth. Developing a truthful mind is the highest priority.

Yea. For sure one should have thier "thing" that they exell at. But rasing consciousness is the best investment of them all. It will considerably change your life. Not necessarily for the better in the beginning. Becoming aware of the smell in the room is painful and it might take some years until you'll be able to escape the room. Ignorance is bliss. Many chimps live a happy life.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DeHlaDBIUBA/?stkn=M2Q4MWJwMjk4anJ5 This is what success looks like for the fool. For the wise success is mastery of mind. Mastery of mind is what leads to a successful life. Bliss and ecstasy are all the rewards you get as a byproduct of mastery of mind and proper living. What's paradoxical, is that even the fool's version of success, which is seen in the video, requires a certain degree of vision, and mastery of mind to accomplish. See it all goes back to mastery of mind. Master your mind and you'll get rewarded, not just with money, which is the fool's hypnotic spell. But with Truth which is clarity of vision, as well as inner ecstasy and bliss on a mundane basis. Mystical spiritual religious experiences of devotion to the love of God are all functions of mastery of mind.

There is no unconscious thinking and emoting in the enlightened state, and thought is used consciously for communication or planning voluntarily, and after the task the thinking process effortlessly subsides. This is obviously a challenge in unenlightened minds. Intuition is at an optimal state in enlightenment. I remember a young westerner telling me how an enlightened sage told him to avoid air travel in 2001 and be in the ashram in Asia, before 9/11. The enlightened state is also associated with high bliss levels effortlessly that is usually felt in people nearby as well. The degree of sensitivity is proportional to how much this is felt, and this usually develops in the company of a sage. Also the enlightened state is associated with high levels of prana or chi or life force, and which usually permeates to those around the sage. ( Disease at physical and psychological levels is associated with lower levels of prana in eastern medical systems of Ayurveda, Reiki, Pranic healing and Acupuncture, and which can be removed by increasing prana levels or removing blocks. ) The female enlightened sage Rajini Menon reported observing her physical ailments disappearing upon enlightenment, as well as gaining high energy levels, possibly due to permanent ending of leakage of prana through compulsive thinking and emoting. This is also a reason why cases of spontaneous healings comes up in people around an enlightened sage, both at psychological and physiological levels. The sage can also infuse high levels of prana into a fruit or leaf or glass of water which when taken results in healing. I know of an enlightened sage in India in the early twentieth century who used to infuse prana into jackfruit leaves and giving them for healing purposes which was successful, and leading to greater fame for him in the region. A man suffering from a certain disease came to the sage seeking healing. He was disappointed to be given an ordinary jackfruit leaf by the sage who asked him to eat it. The man went home with the leaf, lost it, and ate an another jackfruit leaf he had plucked. When he visited the sage later, he complained about the lack of healing after taking the leaf. When the sage enquired whether the man had taken the leaf which the sage had given, the man replied in the negative. This time, the sage gave him an another leaf which he was made to eat over there at the presence of the sage himself. This resulted in the man's healing later on. Healing associated in certain pilgrimage points could also be due to the high presence of prana in the region.

Bliss is sensed through (and you might even phrase it as "tied to" to be fair) that Soul, that inner fire of creativity, which makes "figuring out the etymological feeling place" very tough from the audiences point of view — IF to say "Hey guys, I want to be *in* on the *inside* of the piece / joke, since i can feel the bleu soul asunder too!... and all the minûte details of it too... right? right? I know cause i went to college of Books w the kind loving smart ppl" Its like, "... Uhhhhmmmm. Its not something you explain logically? Its more akin to the scenario of... you or i perform the musical piece, or prolific writing piece, And then everyone feels something parallel to the inner fire" (see below)

Foxes and birds have lots of advantages, but they can't open it's eyes to the absolute, and humans can. Then who needs holes and nests when you have what has not limits as home? Who wants being an slave when you can be free, tasting the absolute freedom that is your true nature? Bliss is very simple: it's what happens when all boundaries disappear. Ananda as the advaita said, the absolute joy of being without limitations that is inherent to everything

Bliss assumes this architecture of the relative vs. The Absolute. But is there a duality between finite bliss and Absolute Bliss? Again, this discussion is very philosophically (ideologically) loaded.

Bliss is ego-transcendent and ego-reliant, and not even too!

I'm beginning to sense there is a bliss to that peace

Your right. Bliss is the transcendent part of the Love/Soul, Granted we cant get a good read on it, that all encompassing pleasure -thing, As its in motion and changing. I liken it to "memory" as well. We take for granted our experience, our ability to remember, recall and retrace those steps towards the Souldoor, changelings, but without bliss vve dont have that uptake, downtake, which depends on experiences. It depends on not having them staggered ~ Which i liken to an old man (98 years old, lets say) blocking your way, staggering you to death at every step. Iuno its confusing, cause bliss is both the normal definition of it, and also its the foundation that everything lays on... without bliss everyone would be thrown out into space like a comet hit the earth, like its the apocalypse, erasing the end, before its even begun. Without bliss, no one could exist, As bliss sets the standard for non-bliss, such that bliss can be described, for we only know what is Not-a-kind-of-bliss by our experience WITH what we think is bliss is... hence its an active defining process... creation from nothing, but we misunderstand the whole creation part. p.s. i mighta accidentally deleted something in there, as i dozed off nd was pressing things in my sleep, as i had busy day.

Well yeah, what is always already here is beyond definition. I'm just curious about your use of the label called bliss.

Well, if that's your definition, then that's your definition. For me, bliss is very much beyond definition... which is in fact the whole point of the OP. Even saying that "bliss is the absence of resistance" falls short, because when you truly don't resist, you don't even resist resistance. So trying to put it into words becomes very paradoxical very fast. 🤷‍♂️ There is no bliss without suffering, so... relatively speaking, yes.

Are you truly in bliss when noticing deep suffering of people ? @Hyperion

For me it relates more to moments of divine ecstasy. That which is always here, has more of an ordinariness to it, and yet also extraordinary in that it is the peace that surpasses all human understanding. Yet you seem to call it bliss, so I just find that interesting.

I was simply responding to what you said here: "Bliss is always available. You can open yourself up to it at any time"

How do you define"blissful"? That's a bit of an odd question to ask after my purposefully cryptic and elusive sermon, don't you think? Again, what exactly would constitute a "constant background of bliss", according to your human understanding?

I experience that peace that surpasses all human understanding quite often these days. I wouldnt necessarily say it's always blissfull as such. Do you have like a constant background of bliss ?

Foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head. - Matthew 8:20 - --- Bliss is not a feeling... it is the sum as well as the absence of all feelings. Bliss is not a state... it is the sum as well as the absence of all states Bliss is not even a "thing"... it is the sum as well as the absence of all things. You can be blissful and happy, blissful and sad, blissful and angry, blissful and worried, blissful and rich, blissful and poor, blissful and healthy, blissful and sick, blissful and active, blissful and lazy, blissful and noisy, blissful and silent, blissful and horny, blissful and celibate, blissful and religious, blissful and atheist, blissful and "spiritual", blissful and "not spiritual", blissful and "awake", blissful and "asleep", blissful and "blissful", blissful and "not blissful". Bliss is everything and nothing, it is everywhere and nowhere, it is always and never, it is knowable and unknowable. You cannot define it, and you cannot deny it. You cannot talk about it, and you cannot be quiet about it. You cannot grasp it, and you cannot avoid it. And if now you're feeling frustrated and pissed off because none of what I am saying seems to make any goddamn sense at all... that's also potential Bliss. That's why it is called "the peace that passes all understanding". --- Bliss is always available. You can open yourself up to it at any time... and if you don't, then that's perfectly fine too. It's your choice. And also it isn't.

What if the magic for getting money was having a job? I guess printing money would do as well. 😁 Why aren't the limitations of this reality that aren't constructed by humanity not magical enough? How would you prove that your manifestation is what directly caused the result beyond assumptions / beliefs? The actual mechanics/limitations of current reality doesn't depend on believing that reality is material. Beliefs cannot directly change the limitations beyond belief-based limitations. Maybe you believe that some technique could change, and then when you do it the limitations change. But that's indirect, and still you have to prove to yourself that the change isn't a belief. The problem of belief is that without actually knowing whether something is true you assume it is, and then whatever happens to you, you will think that it's because you believed in it, especially that the belief is the direct cause. You get lost in a self-reinforcing loop. But what's magical about belief is that if you believe that reality is material, it will become material. For exploration and testing how powerful hypnosis is, I have listened to hypnosis files. They work like magic, given some time, because you completely concentrate your focus on an idea being real until it becomes solidified in your mind. Links get created in your mind between different things, so when you think about a certain thing, it can directly affect what/how you feel and act. It's terrifyingly powerful; you can be hypnotized to experience an intense bliss! People underestimate how suggestible their minds are.

The goal is not to spare yourself the horror or save yourself from the suffering, nor is it to be redeemed so as to return to perfect nirvanic bliss. The goal is to make the suffering of existence productive. To use it to give substance to the fluff that is you in order to forge your soul and liberate your spirit - so while the Pater (pattern/demiurgos) is cruel and tyrannical, it is not evil. If its not evil then we owe it to ourselves to find out what the suffering is all about. Being fucked is not without its value because some truths only emerge when you got nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. You can swim or you can sink into an eternal fucked up hell where all the intellectual pourquoi's rapidly devolve into tortured lamentations of WHY, WHY, WHY GOD IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME WHY, WHY, WHY ,WHY, WHY. The horror is the reason why, the existential terror is the reason why. If there was no threat of hell I would have blown my fucking head off long ago. On the other hand however, if something far larger and more grand than little ol human me decided that this clusterfuck should exist then maybe its not just an accidental absurdity. Maybe its a gift given in good faith through good will by a living transcendence of pure freedom and infinitely exquisite and boundless joy that holds a promise too marvelous to be imagined and it might be worth sticking around to see it through.

Yes that's a good point. I don't think the system is evil. I think our spirit guides and higher selves loves us. What I'm worried about is the possibility of them being delusional. That maybe they are so high on non-duality bliss that they think suffering is nothing. You know some spiritual masters, like advanced non-duality teachers sometimes say "nothing has ever happened"? That's because the absolute makes it feel that way, seeing the truth has that effect, even the ugly parts of the world feels valuable and the absolute is the same perfect being. But the people and animals that suffer don't see the world that way.

I'm not, I'm actually on the path to be a perfect agent for the middle path, since that's the only way I know to minimize my suffering. But when I get to the other side and my spirit guides lose their control over me, I can join the light faction. I might try it in a few days, but if I want to meditate I could just do so on my own, I often feel bliss when meditating.

It is a belittlement of the Absolute to conceptualize it, but as you say, the human mind has to belittle the absolute to "understand" it (conceptually). But me saying that is not saying "you're not having a profound experience, you're just deluded". No, it is very profound. My conceptualizations of "solipsism", "aloneness", "perfection", etc., were very profound. It's just I see what my mind was creating as a response to encountering with the absolute; concepts about the absolute. Love/bliss/energy is also very profound, and it is also "Maya". You see, there is no hyperbolic, black and white scapegoating here. It's clearly labelling what is going on.

I’m really happy for you that you are able to feel this way. It’s actually the bliss that the sages talk about, it’s a bliss amid the noisy chaotic confusion of maya. Eternal Resting Light is behind all the ensuing chaos in the world of maya. God realisation is the peace that passes all understanding, it’s a fearless place, so unbelievably free and fresh and beautiful in every sense of the word. Amazing Grace 🙏

God-Consciousness is directly tied to intelligence, understanding, etc.—their epitome. The degree to which a Consciousness understands maya is the degree of reality/solidity that it has. The more understanding, the more reality/solid/fundamental the Consciousness is.To say illusion isn’t real is to say nothing if it is not specified to what degree it is not real. All are real in that they exist, yet the degrees to which their existence holds is the test of the level of Consciousness. Say a mirage: it exists, thus is real, as a visual content and so on. Yet it does not exist corporeally beyond its place in the visual context. And corporeality is what it is faking. Thus, that falsehood, if not understood or seen through, determines the degree of Consciousness. Not because the Experience is not real, but because Consciousness was unable to determine its degree of truth. As the Consciousness does not understand it is a mirage, if it did, it would be higher, even if it still experienced the same illusion. God-Consciousness understands/is all maya. The Experience is not what determines the degree of Consciousness. The structure of that Consciousness determines its degree, even if the Experience is the same. Although a change in structure likely will result in a change in Experience as well. After the changed structure is attained, the Experience is superfluous, unneeded. Yet the Experience without the structure has no lasting effect. Concepts are also maya, because they are distinct from nothing. The relationship between maya and truth is that illusion is necessary for any Consciousness to have existence, as in: to be, or have being. The content itself is necessary; distinction from the totality is necessary for Consciousness. So maya cannot be done away with without having an annihilation of distinct Experience/Consciousness. Which results in Truth. God does not do away with maya because it cannot. In order for anything to exist, it must be an illusory distinction from Totality. Maya IS existent reality since it is the only thing that can be Experienced, as it is the content of Consciousness. No maya means no Experience. Consciousness is Experience in content, not structure. Being IS illusion. Illusion is God itself. It is all that is. Yet Reality includes Totality and Consciousness. Totality is not distinct, which is not maya/God/being because it can never be differentiated whilst retaining the quality of not being distinct. A baby can have a state experience of such features filling its Consciousness which would fill its Experience of reality—the content of it: Peace, Love, Bliss. It would not be an awakening, as those relate to the context/possibility space/that which holds the experienced Consciousness as a whole. The context of the baby’s whole reality being solipsistic truth, with it/God as sole authority, would not be grasped. And as such, it would not be lasting once the Experience of peace, love, bliss, or even a solipsistic Experience of it being the sole authority goes away and its Consciousness is filled with insecurity of its survival.This would change its Experience away from the heightened state, making it not an awakening, as it is not fully grasped/intuited, as it is transitory. An awakening would require an insight or inherent understanding of the structure of the baby’s being/Consciousness. This insight does likely need some structure which can grasp it rather than simply being an interesting happening. Does that structure have to be cognitive? I doubt it, but to communicate it, yeah. It may be strictly cognitive for humans. By your definition of an Experience being an awakening, then it would be possible for a baby to have it. Although the understanding and change in structure of what happens/is (Experience) as a necessary part of awakening. A ball can smack a baby’s face. It would Experience it. I wouldn’t say it had an awakening about balls, smacking, or of anything really. If that smack resulted in the baby having an insight into the workings of color, inertia, pain, mass, elasticity, which could all be structured/intuited/grasped from the Experience of the ball, then just the Experience wouldn’t necessitate an awakening nor insight. The distinction of Experience and structure/context falls apart since an awakening changes the very Experience to incorporate that changed structure, for that and future Experience. So, if an awakening to love happens, an Experience of it would be drastically different, as it would encompass the structure of that love into its being/Experience/Consciousness itself. After the structure is attained, the Experience is superfluous, unneeded. Yet the Experience without the change in structure has no lasting effect.