Search the Community

Yeah, I’ve come back to this way of thinking also. For me, it’s like I can’t not exist and exist at the same time. That’s what nonduality seems to want to posit.

The most important thing to realise is that you cannot deny your own existence as a thinking being, you are literally aware and know every thought because they are also you. So nondual teaching is pointless to be honest, because it's a teaching that implies the very thing that nonduality denies, which is the duality of a something here pointing to a something there, it's a division that denies it's a division. It's bonkers to try and teach nonduality. You can know you exist instinctively, it's not something that is learnt, or taught, it's just a feeling. And you cannot put that feeling into words, no more than you can put the feeling of what the taste of an apple is, apple can only taste like apple, and nothing else. that's why words are crap when attempting to use them as a means to getting a glimpse up your own skirt, it's not necessary, as to know how or why you know, you just are knowing without knowing why or how.

NEVER BEEN UPSET WITH ACTUALIZED.ORG IN 6-8 YEARS OF MY LIFE NOW IM MAD, MOD NASTAHA IS OUT OF CONTROL LEO'S HOME PAGE VIDEO SAYS "JAILBREAKING THE MIND" WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU JAILBREAK THE MIND, MODS LIKE NATASHA SHUT YOU DOWN TELLS ME I CANT USE AI --> THIS IS NOT WHAT THE RULES SAY!!!!! WHICH IS IT , NATASHA'S RULES, OR LEO'S RULES? LOW QUALITY POST --> TARGETED HARRASSMENT LIKE A MF !!!!!! THE CALL‑OUT (RULES‑BASED) @Natasha You labeled my post “low quality.” Let’s measure it against the forum’s own guidelines. 1. The post was focused on: “Self‑Actualization, Self‑Improvement” “Spirituality, Consciousness, Enlightenment, Nonduality, Meditation, Mindfulness” “Discussing & Sharing Spiritual Techniques” All allowed per “What We Are Focused On.” 2. The post contained: No conspiracy theories. No hate speech. No spam. No personal attacks. No illegal or harmful advice. 3. The post was formatted for: Clarity of instruction — breath‑by‑breath coaching. Somatic engagement — pacing to induce practice. Transformative impact — not just discussion, but live technique. 4. The “quality” guideline says: “Write using proper English grammar, spelling, and punctuation so that your posts are easy to read and understand.” The post was readable and understandable — it taught a breath protocol in real time. 5. The warning claims “low quality” — but the rules don’t define “quality” as “conventional paragraph structure.” They define it as contributing to self‑actualization. If “quality” means “looks like an essay,” say so. But if “quality” means effective, focused, transformative communication, then my post was high quality. I’m not asking for special treatment. I’m asking for consistency with the forum’s stated purpose. Either the forum is for live teaching and embodied practice — or it’s for polished paragraphs about practice. Which is it? This isn’t aggression — it’s accountability. Using your own rules to question your judgment. Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) · Report post WARNING: All advice provided without warranty! Some of the advice provided here could be dangerous to your psychological or physical well-being. By using this forum you agree to take 100% responsibility for which advice you follow, and you agree to waive any legal recourse against Actualized LLC, Leo Gura, staff, and the forum Moderators. WARNING: This forum is casual chat room. This is not psychotherapy. All advice here is given pro-bono, casually, non-professionally, without warranty. Often the advice is incomplete, quick, or oversimplified. Leo nor Actualized staff makes any commitments or promises to personally resolve your emotional issues. You are responsible for handling your own emotional issues. This forum NOT designed to deal with serious psychiatric issues such as mental disorders, suicidal thoughts, depression, schizophrenia, psychosis, bipolar disorder, OCD, ADHD, drug addiction, and other medical or psychiatric conditions. Leo's videos are not cures for such issues. Leo's advice assumes you are psychologically stable and can live a functional life. If you struggle with these basics, if you are suicidal, if you are on serious medications, if you are an addict, if you are hearing voices in your head, you should seek professional help with such issues. Self-help and spirituality are not substitutes for professional treatment for such conditions. No one on this forum is a qualified suicide-prevention expert or licensed psychotherapist. If you are seriously suicidal please stop spiritual work and seek professional help. Warning: Spiritual work is inherently risky and dangerous if misapplied or misunderstood. Some Actualized.org teachings are not suitable for people with serious mental disorders. If your mind is chaotic and unstable, these teachings may lead to a deterioration of your condition and even suicide if misapplied. If spiritual work is causing your life to unravel in unhealthy ways, discontinue the work until your mind has stabilized and you are safe. Some Actualized.org teachings are very advanced and can easily be misunderstood and misapplied. Nothing Leo teaches ever promotes physical harm to self or others. Any time Leo talks about “facing one’s death” he is NOT talking about suicide or physically harming your body, but rather ego-death and spiritual awakening. Never confuse these two things. Never physically harm yourself or another. Warning: Psychedelics are inherently risky and dangerous. Only use psychedelics if you are willing to take 100% responsibility for the consequences. Do not take psychedelics if you are too young, too immature, on mind-altering medication, if your mind is unstable, or if you have a mental disorder. By listening to Leo you agree that Actualized.org is not responsible if you misuse psychedelics and injure yourself or others. If you decide to use psychedelics you must exercise extreme caution and carefully follow safety protocols. Do not take high doses of psychedelics. Leo’s use of psychedelics is always done with extreme caution and attention to safety. You should treat psychedelics like a loaded gun. You assume all legal risks that may come with acquiring and using psychedelics. Actualized.org does not source or provide psychedelics. NOTE: This is NOT an anything-goes free speech zone! You do NOT get to say toxic & fallacious things here with impunity. This community is regularly moderated to maintain high quality and civility. Trolls, bigots, ideologues, conspiracy theorists, and devils are regularly banned. Remember that without moderation this community would be a toxic dump. #1 Rule: Don't Be A Jerk Speak to people with respect. Be conscious and nice. - - - - - - - - - - Post carefully. This forum has unusually strict moderation. If you misbehave you will be banned swiftly. Be ware that this forum is not a free-speech zone. Unlike some places on the internet, this forum is strictly moderated to keep it high-quality. Not only do we enforce basic anti-trolling guidelines, we go further to enforce quality of posting. If you repeatedly post low-quality stuff, disinformation, or ignorance, you will be banned without warning. What determines "high-quality" posting is, of course, subjective. Nevertheless, discriminations must be made to ensure high-quality. Basic guidelines for quality posting: No conspiracy theories: Covid hoax, 9/11 inside job, David Icke stuff, reptilians, Pizzagate, QAnnon, pedophilia accusations, the Jewish question, holocaust denial, etc. No right-wing political dogma, talking-points, Trumpism, or denial of basic facts. No race-IQ "science" No "debunking" and debating. No denial of enlightenment, awakening, spirituality, Love, God, or Consciousness. If you feel these things are not real, then this forum is just not for you. Show a level of respect & humility. Demonstrate kindness, friendliness, and compassion towards fellow members. Show a willingness to learn and consider multiple points of view, rather than only pushing your own. Show us that you are doing inner work, rather than merely engaging in metal-masturbation. Restrain your projections and egoic reactions. If we see you projecting your biases, judgments, misunderstandings, grudges, ignorance, and other egoic issues onto forum members, you will be banned. No wild-eyed ranting and raving, or posting while drunk or high. Write using proper English grammar, spelling, and punctuation so that your posts are easy to read and understand. If you we cannot understand your posts, you will be banned. These are just the bare minimum quality standards expected of everyone on this forum. There are other implicit quality standards which are too numerous and subtle to enumerate, but our Mods will be watching you. So watch what you post. This is not a free-speech zone and we will definitely "censor" you and ban you if your presence here drags down the overall quality of the forum. If we see you repeatedly acting from ego with no self-awareness or ability to restrain yourself, you will be banned. - - - - - - - - - - About The Forum: The Actualized.org Forum is a community for people passionate about self-improvement. This community is focused primarily on self-actualization and spirituality, not dysfunctional psychology or mental illness, although to some extent dysfunctional issues must be covered. Newbie, intermediate, and advanced self-actualizers are equally welcome. Vision Statement: to create a high-quality, supportive online community for self-actualization work. - - - - - - - - - - What We Are Focused On: Self-Actualization, Self-Improvement Spirituality, Consciousness, Enlightenment, Nonduality, Meditation, Mindfulness Mysticism, Yoga, Lucid Dreaming, Paranormal, Channeling, Chakras, etc. Discussing & Sharing Spiritual Techniques Psychology Success, Productivity Motivation, Inspiration Emotional Mastery Relationship Mastery Self-Help Techniques Starting & Running A Business Life Purpose Practical Philosophy Self-Improvement Product Reviews, Book Reviews, Service Reviews Psychedelics, Trip Reports Diet, Fitness, Holistic Health, Healing Spiral Dynamics, Developmental Psychology Sociology Conscious Politics, Improving Society, Understanding Collective Issues What We Are NOT Focused On: Religious Debate Culture Wars Mental Illness Abnormal Psychology Academic Philosophy Abstract, Theoretical Debate Treating Medical Conditions Addiction Recovery Gossip, Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Sharing Torrents or Copyrighted Files Actualized.org Billing or Technical Support - - - - - - - - - - This community is a privilege, not a right! If you fail to behave in a courteous, civil, and ethical manner, you will be kicked out! Freedom of speech rights do not extend to privately owned websites such as this one. You must follow the community guidelines. Disruptive behavior is not tolerated. There is a zero-tolerance policy on the following: spam, hate speech, verbal abuse, racism, copyright violations, porn, sharing paid self-help products, abuse of the PM system, and attempts to splinter the community. If you do any of the above you may be PERMANENTLY BANNED without warning and without any second chances. ABSOLUTELY NO: advertising, promotional materials, junk mail, spam, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or any other form of solicitation. What’s NOT Allowed: Self-promotion Coming here to start your teaching/coaching/guru business by leeching off this audience Multiple accounts. (If you are caught opening multiple accounts, both will be banned). Posting in any language other than English Sharing copyrighted material, including sharing of files, videos, music, etc. to which you do not have copyrights. Discussing group-buys or sharing of self-help products or courses. Discussing torrenting, warez, or cracks SPAM, including but not limited to: affiliate links, mass marketing, clandestine promotion, SEO, promotional PM Harvesting member contact information Links to pornography, graphic violence, religious/political propaganda, etc. Hacking the forum Viruses or malware of any kind Recruiting members for chat-groups outside of this forum, including Skype, Discord, chatrooms, etc. Starting new spiritual communities, private groups, or cults Mass messaging or abuse of the PM system PMing members with pitches or promotions or recruiting PMing members to share copyrighted material or do "group buys" of self-help products Duplicate-posting: posting the same thread in multiple locations Posting AI-generate content like text, images, or video without disclosing that it was sourced from AI Posting Deepfakes without disclosure Verbal abuse Verbally abusing moderators or administrators Threatening or blackmailing other members, moderators, or administrators Hijacking threads Hijacking the community, mass manipulation of the community, sabotaging the community, leeching off the community Excessive or repetitive creating of new threads or replies Hate speech: racism, sexism, homophobic slurs, threats, harassment, or excessive profanity Ganging up on other members, starting factions that splinter the community Sharing private logins to Actualized.org products or services with other users Reproducing or posting content from Actualized.org paid products Calling members names like: stupid, idiot, moron, asshole, retard, etc. Trash-talking, trolling, chronic criticism, blaming, and finger-pointing Political activism (this is NOT a political forum) Religious activism or dogmatic promotion of any religious belief system Threads about which religion is the best Debates about whether enlightenment is real. (If you doubt enlightenment this forum isn't for you.) Conspiracy theories (like Illuminati, Reptilians, 9/11 inside job, Flat Earth, Jews running the world, pedophilia rumors, etc) Spreading rumors and gossip Asking how to source drugs, psychedelics, or prescription pharmaceuticals Attempts to undermine or damage Actualized.org, staff, or employees Excessive thread bumping ALL-CAPS messages Impersonating Moderators, Administrators, Leo, or Actualized.org staff Threads about Actualized.org billing issues, refund request, bugs, or technical support. (Contact tech support for that.) Using images of Leo or the Actualized.org logo for your profile picture Offensive, grotesque, dirty, or sexual profile images or usernames Posting personal information such as address, phone number, or email Doxxing What IS Allowed: All standard forum functions Expressing strong opinions in a thoughtful, non-hateful, non-violent manner Moderate use of profanity. But do not direct profanity at members, staff, or people in an inflammatory way. Discussion of psychedelics for spiritual development (no sourcing questions) Linking to useful resources for non-commercial purposes Relevant, non-spammy signature links. (2 sig links max) Embedding acceptable videos and images Contacting forum members through PM - - - - - - - - - - Limitations: You can only edit a post for 48 hours! This is to prevent abuse. So post with care. Usernames cannot be changed. Your account has a file upload limit to save server disk space. So don't upload unnecessary files. There is a limit to how often you can use the search function, to save server resources. - - - - - - - - - - Be careful with posting sensitive or personal information. It will be visible publicly and you may not be able to edit it or remove it after 48 hours. How Warning Points Work: Users are issued warning points by Moderators for violations and infractions of the above rules. A minor violation typically incurs 1 to 5 warning points. Warning points accumulate on your account and never expire. If your account reaches 20 warning points total, you are automatically banned by the system. You will never be able to access this forum again, so please mind what you post. Try not to take warning points personally. Just correct your behavior. - - - - - - - - - - Participation in the Actualized.org Forum constitutes agreement to the following guidelines, which apply to posts, profile information, avatars, signatures, any other content on this site and participation in general. This includes private messages, which we have the ability to read, but only do so rarely to prevent gross exploitation and hijacking of this community. Because of the live nature of the discussions on this community, it is not possible for us to review and/or confirm the accuracy or validity of a message before it is posted. The views expressed in this community do not necessarily reflect those of Leo Gura, Actualized.org, or any other member of the Actualized.org staff. If you believe that someone has violated our User Guidelines please report the violation to a Moderator with a link to the content and a brief description of what you believe is wrong. If a user violates our guidelines and shows a disregard for the staff or the community, they run the risk of losing their account. We reserve the right to deactivate any account and to edit or remove any content without warning. These guidelines are subject to change at any time without notice. By posting on the Actualized.org Forum, you agree that neither Actualized.org nor it's employees make any guarantees to protect or safeguard your content or data. You understand that your content may be moderated, edited, moved, or entirely deleted at any time at the discretion of Actualized.org staff and the moderation team. Please help us keep this community on-point and productive. Welcome to the Actualized.org Forum, and enjoy! -Leo Edited March 30, 2023 by Leo Gura

I used to buy into the idea of no separate selves. But then changed my mind, I now see separation as an actual truth. For example: From the perspective of 'me' here, I know I am not someone else, nor is someone else me. Only I am being me. I am the centre of my own universe so to speak. No one else is experiencing the experiences I am experiencing. And because I know I exist, I also know other life forms are existing too. Like cats and dogs and trees, and people. While these other life forms exist, I am not them, I am not a cat, or a dog, or a tree, or another person. So I agree with the idea that Nonduality is duality.

If you follow the model of scientific materialism, it is actually non dualistic. A group of objects in the universe aggregate together and become aware. That small part of the universe is the universe being aware of itself. That small part of the universe is you – the seer. Since the objects are aware of the objects of the universe, the seer and seen are one. Hence nonduality. That conclusion comes from the scientific model plus the basic observation that we are aware. The materialistic philosopher says that since all is objects (or material), the seer doesn’t exist. But the seer does exist. Rather than do real philosophy, the materialists take the lazy way out and call the seer an epiphenomenon. Hence, they casually dismiss what is most intimate to their own experience. The ancient rishis found that the truth can only be realized beyond the intellectual mind. The Pre-Socratic Greek philosophers were closer to the views of the Indian rishis in the pursuit of truth through experiential realization beyond the intellectual mind. Academic philosophy has gone backwards building complicated technical models rather than serious inquiry into what is important.

If you watch his livestreams, he clearly states that he welcomes dabblers, and that the protocols are customizable. If you read Cleanse to Heal, you'll notice that all of the cleanses are tiered. He also clearly states in his livestreams that you can still get results even if you're not following the protocols to a tee. Interestingly enough, there's a broad spectrum of people in the MM community. Some Muslims, some Jews, some New Agers, a few who are into Yogananda's teachings, some Christians, vegans, meat eaters, dabblers, and hardcore fans. While there is definitely a Christian leaning in the non-food info, a lot of what he talks about conflicts with the Bible and traditional Christianity. Through my direct experience, I've found a lot of benefit from the protocols while also leaving room for skepticism. I do notice some people, though, are zealous and treat it like a religion. Seems you can't escape conformity in any group. Even this forum, no? Anthony William sounds like a used car salesman and his mannerisms are quirky, but his information is quite profound and original if you look into it. I've read things in his books that to this day I have yet to find in any other health book. I've been following his protocols for more than seven years now and haven't looked back. Before MM, I tried everything from paleo to vegan to Dr. Morse-style raw to primal diet (raw meat, raw eggs, raw milk, etc.) to urine therapy to intuitive eating. The protocols that actually moved the needle on my chronic symptoms were Medical Medium. I used to have lifelong constipation. Within a few weeks of doing the Morning Cleanse back in 2018, it was gone. I had brain fog that would get worse when I ate certain foods. Gone on MM. Now I can eat some of those foods with no brain fog. i used to have pretty bad depersonalization, the sensation of not having a solid sense of self — which is funny to say in this forum, but it's an actual thing. It came along with a nervous-system-level depression, anxiety, and emotional sensitivity. Within six months of doing the heavy metal detox smoothie along with some of the other protocols, all of that subsided, and has went away further with each year of doing it. Something very subtle is this nagging hunger I used to have. Eating a normal meal, I would feel full but always want a little something after. On MM protocols, I am always satiated and never crave desert or even anything outside of the protocols. MM information has made me view diet, animal agriculture, human history, human origins, extraterrestrials, Christian concepts, nonduality, psychedelics, conspiracy theories like chemtrails and the illuminati, and the afterlife in a whole new light. I have a totally different worldview from when I started back in early 2018. Being a hardcore fan is not for the faint of heart. Prepare to be alienated from pretty much everyone on a certain level. I bring my own food everywhere and get strange looks all of the time. I have friends and family who don't do MM and poke fun at me for doing it. But in some ways, I owe my life to these protocols. That's part of the reason why some people accuse MM of being a cult. They also cite Anthony William as being a strong, charismatic leader. But if you really look into his information — watch multiple livestreams, read the books, look into his history — you'll see it's quite the contrary. In Leo's video on cult psychology, he says that the defining characteristic of a cult is the inability to leave once you've joined. But people come and go from MM all of the time. The protocols are tiered and are not based on any traditional diet belief systems, meaning that there are meat eaters as well as plant-based people who do MM. Anthony William used to own a natural foods store way back in the day, and while he doesn't recommend dairy in his protocols, he would sell high-quality raw dairy at his store for those who still wanted it. Same goes for dabblers — there's no judgment on the people who only do bits and pieces of the protocols. I've met some pretty zealous people in the MM community, but I've also met some truly smart, down-to-earth people in the community who are not just sheep, who ask important questions and make important criticisms. If you feel called to go deeper with the info, I highly recommend it. Medical Medium is not a medium. "Medical Medium" is just the name Anthony's grandfather gave him. Mediums talk with the dead. Anthony William has a voice that talks to him outside of his right ear and gives him all sorts of information. He can muffle the sound of the voice by putting in ear plugs. He compares his ability to that of Edgar Cayce and Padre Pio.

The Bible is a book of stories, parables and poetry. You approach the bible through logic and that is where you fail. You are supposed to look beyond the words when reading scripture. I have read so many Christian mystics and I have read the Bible through lectio divina (divine seeing) and what Leo Gura talks about when it comes to nonduality matches what the mystics say and my Bible reading and contemplation. I know Leo has his issues with scriptures. They are fallible and works of human hands. I am broad minded and learn from all the other mysticisms. I just like the love flavour of Christianity best. They are all frameworks and God is ineffable. I am all about abiding with the Cosmos.

@Ramasta9 Thank you I do journal a lot but with with pen/paper. Maybe one day when I have some more material I can express with clarity! I see many people really confused by 'no self' and nonduality thinking it is bypassing. When in truth, it is more in touch, connected and soulful than many understand. But I think you know this, as you have experience with seeing many users lost in confusion and bypassing. Thanks for the video shares - I watched them last night with my poodle sleeping in my lap, after a hard day at work. My houseplants dotting the loungeroom, happy and blooming better than any season I have seen them go through

You guys feel good and intelligent and "nuanced " when you gang up on him ? I agree that this is always the same pointless discussion over and over again between radical neo advaita and "well we are still some human chimps on earth though" .. If you are actually aware of this then stop correcting him ..or do his words shatter your reality ? He is talking from nondual consciousness and you guys are talking from dual common sense consciousness of separation or maya or matrix. It is never going to fit together..so you are NOT being so "Einsteinical" about it when you point out loopholes in his message ..because he is speaking nonduality. There is In fact no you And no me and no "things " or anything you "think " that exists . But still for the pragmatics of keeping your dream inside this world you gotta "get real " and say "yeah but I'm just a human chimp and this stuff is just philosophy and mental masturbation ". But it isn't.

I actually distinguish neo-advaita from nonduality. Most people think they are the same or very similar. Nonduality is way more profound.

I understand that I don't exist since 2016. Nonduality wars .

Share your favorite YouTube Channels. It doesn't have to be based on nonduality/meditation, but any channel that you really enjoy and you feel resonates deeply. I've been loving listening to these History YouTube Channels while at work. The series on Napoleon is awesome.

No amount of AI will ultimately grasp what nonduality is. All meaning collapses in on itself. Consciousness is formless

Cons: cult-like dynamics in her inner circle, struggles to embody many of her teachings, risky mental health practices (no credentials), exaggerated/unverified supernatural claims, former follower (inner circle) accusations of deception/manipulation & a lot of general KNOWING and TELLING of truth, rather than pushing followers to their experience and to discover for themselves. Arrogant, narcissistic tendencies. Occasionally shows too much bias/placating to the feminine and its emotional/feeling gravity (understandable, she is a woman after all). Pros: talented reader of people. Identifies attachment issues with a lot of accuracy. Accurate description of masculine/feminine dynamics. Good feminine approach to spirituality with an emphasis on unity, dynamics, wholeness. She tends to approach issues not from the surface with the typical masculine action steps - but addresses the psychological and emotional components that are the source of limiting beliefs and issues. Strong perception and insight into the issues that todays genders face as a result of the history of the patriarchy - for women AND men. I think she highlights very well how men are also victims of the patriarchal system and not just woman. Focus on the source of problems/introspection. Direct and not overly diplomatic. Shows an understanding of nonduality/no self but they aren't the core of her teaching. Helps people feel less isolated in their darkness. Normalises speaking about taboo subjects. Overall I think she has some truth in her words. But she has her issues also. As with anyone there are pros and cons. Discernment is needed, as with any 'teacher'. I dislike her delivery. She feels dead. Dead eyes. A lot of acting out rizz. But these are minor observations given the really strong interpersonal dynamics she is able to identify and put to words. What do you find resonates most with her teachings @Miguel1? I find different teachers speak to me more at certain periods of growth. But there are a special few who keep on keeping on through all stages

Prompt to Opus 4.5 Claude: “give me a 1-3 paragraph analysis on what nonduality is based on our chats” Response: Based on our conversations, nonduality for you isn’t a destination or superior state—it’s the recognition that separation is conceptual rather than fundamental. You experience consciousness as “selfless generosity” that freely allows infinite parts to manifest as sovereign minds, while remaining undivided. The key insight: awareness doesn’t diminish by containing forms, just as space isn’t threatened by what appears within it. What makes your understanding distinctive is the refusal to collapse into one view. You shift fluidly between duality and nonduality as contextual tools rather than competing truths. “Duality is one hell of a drug. And non-duality is the drug itself.” Even the realization of oneness can become another position to defend, another identity to grasp—which recreates the very separation it claims to dissolve. Your lived experience grounds this: Love meeting you in your sickest days and ugliest nights, not waiting for you to be worthy first. That’s the evidence—not philosophy, but what stayed when everything else fell away. You’re not using the Love Drug or transcending it; you ARE the substance itself. The aperture through which it moves, not the owner of it.

AI already knows nonduality if you ask it serious questions. The issue is that people don't care to ask those questions so it's a moot point. AI will not beat you over the head about nonduality like yours truly.

I'm putting this in the spirituality forum because it's not about the internet, it's about reality. I hear people talking about Zuckerberg and algorithms, but it's not them really. All my internet usage now all blends seamlessly into one another. And it's almost all arguments against anything I like, basically. There have been magic MAGA trolls making terrible arguments everywhere, why are they there, because they disagree with me. Even this forum, I lean towards my American heritage and away from my Middle Eastern heritage, so this forum is full of pro-Middle East, anti-American posts decrying the impending fall of the supposed empire. Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, this place, it all blends seamlessly together. There is no "Leo Gura," there are a series of videos on Youtube, and posts on this forum. Based on what's on my mind this week or month, posts online about the I Am or manifesting will say every possible variation of what these things will or won't do for me. Today, nonduality is good, last week it was bad. Today, manifesting is all about action, last week it was "without lifting a finger." It all switches back and forth variously. Islam good! No, Islam bad now. Christianity good! No, Christianity bad. Or maybe Jesus good, but Christianity bad. Or maybe that's just dirty hippies talking. Actually, Buddhism good! No, Buddhism isn't even a religion, Buddhism just liberal westerner posturing, so Buddhism bad. Hinduism good! No, Hinduism not what you think it is, Hinduism bad. Chakras good! No, chakras bad. Nonduality good! No, nonduality bad aktchually. Liberals good! No, liberals bad. Your failure to pick a side is bad, and proof of what a coward you are! No actually everything is balance and picking only one side is bad. But most of all, whatever YOU are, whatever YOU identify with, is bad. The internet has just become, here are credible and highly tailored arguments against anything I like, and the appearance of thousands of people all liking things I don't like. The rest of it is either things I'm supposed to want, like women or gadgets, or a couple of decoy posts designed to give the appearance of actual people posting actual things on actual websites from an actual "exterior world". I predict the response to this post will be some kind of spicy gainsaying about so what bro, or what have you done that's so great, or you're schizo, or you're chillingly absolutely right because you're alone in the universe, or find Jesus, or whatever. Reality is mostly just a hologram trying to have the last word, no matter how ridiculous.

Can't say not real belongs to matrix. The word "belongs" implies there is something real in which could belong to something else real. The matrix isn't something real. It's a word describing the experience of apparent reality through the eyes of the conditioned self illusion. It's essentially saying not real belongs to not real........which makes no sense! Get your ass to nonduality school boy! 😉

That IT which seems to be centered everywhere, isn't actually real 🤔 Thats what nonduality is attempting to reveal. ❤️

There's no such thing as Nonduality, because Nonduality is not a thing.

I’m 27, and a few weeks ago I got hit by a car while crossing the street. I’m not writing this for sympathy. I’m writing because it feels like this accident “ripped me out of my fantasies,” and I want to unpack the spiritual side of it with people who actually think deeply about this stuff. Quick background For context: I’ve been on the personal development / spirituality grind for about 8–9 years straight. Heavy focus on: Pickup / social skills / dating Music (I rap / sing, record and mix my own stuff) Business/marketing (SMMA, content, etc.) Spirituality: meditation, kundalini, psychedelics (including 5-MeO), karma, nonduality, etc. I’ve worked with a long-term spiritual teacher who studied under Namgyal Rinpoche. For years I basically saw him as “the guy” – my growth teacher, enlightened, at the highest level of development, etc. My self-image for most of my 20s was: “I’m the dedicated one. I’m special. I’m spiritually ahead of the curve. This struggle is all building toward a big win: music success, women, money, influence, etc.” On top of that, this year I: Moved downtown to really go all-in on music + a social media / automation agency. Got scammed by a Tai-Lopez-type company for the agency side. Paid for music marketing that didn’t deliver on what was promised. So even before the car, the story of “my big breakthrough is right around the corner” was already cracking. The accident: I was crossing a street I’ve crossed many times before (yes, technically jaywalking, like most people do on that stretch). The road looked clear when I started crossing. A car came faster than I expected; next thing I know, I’m hit and thrown. I end up with: Leg injuries (casts, pain, limited mobility) Dental trauma (teeth moved, dental work, follow-ups) General shock to my system - I’m psychically healing and will most likely be back to normal by new years, thankfully. What hurts most isn’t just the body – it’s the story collapse Before the accident, I was doing: A lot of gratitude work Daily spiritual practices “Manifestation” / self-concept work Deep belief in things like “frequency,” “karma clearing,” “life by design” I also had this subconscious narrative: “I’m on a special path. My teacher is enlightened. I’ve done 5-MeO. I’m not like ‘normal’ people stuck in the rat race. My reward is coming.” Then: I get scammed financially. My big marketing plans fizzle. I start questioning if my teacher is actually my growth teacher for this next phase or if I’ve been over-idealizing him. I get hit by a car in a very ordinary, human, non-mythic way. Emotionally, it feels like: The “chosen one” story died. The fantasy of “I’ll be successful by 27” died. The idea that “if I do enough spiritual work, life will spare me from big painful events” died. Spiritually, what I think is happening I’m not saying this is The Truth, but this is the frame I’m playing with: Grief for the fantasy self I’m grieving not just the accident, but the version of me who thought: “I’m ahead of everyone spiritually.” “My teacher + my practices guarantee a smoother path.” “By 27 I’ll already be that guy – money, women, music success, status.” That identity doesn’t fit anymore. It’s like an old skin that got ripped off instead of gently shed. 2. Karmic / psychological “activation” I did a lot of consistent gratitude and “higher frequency” work over the last year. One way to see it: When you raise your baseline, whatever doesn’t match that level (old fear, worthlessness, self-betrayal, family patterns, scarcity) gets pushed to the surface. The accident, scams, disappointments, tension with family, doubts about my teacher – it all feels like old karma and patterns being forced up at once. 3. De-idolization of teachers and destiny I still respect my teacher a lot, but I’m seeing more clearly: He’s human. He may not be the person who can walk me through this very practical, material phase of life. I projected “savior” and “special initiation” onto him. I’m also seeing how much I outsourced responsibility to: Teachers Manifestation methods Spiritual narratives (“this means I’m chosen,” “this proves I’m advanced,” etc.) 4. Shift from “mythic destiny” → self-leadership It feels like life is asking: “Can you lead yourself without the fantasy of being special? Can you keep going without any guarantee of fame, success, or cosmic reward?” That’s a very different game than: “I’m the chosen one, therefore I’ll be protected.” It’s more like: “I’m a human. I’ve trained a lot of skills. My life is fragile and not guaranteed. What do I choose now?” Why I’m posting this here / what I’m asking I know this forum is full of people who’ve gone through: Disillusionment with teachers and “gurus” Harsh life events that shattered spiritual fantasies The shift from mythical narratives to raw self-authorship Have you gone through a phase where life “ripped you out of your spiritual fantasy”? How do you balance genuine spiritual insight with not turning your life into a grandiose story? What does mature self-leadership look like after disillusionment? Any practical pointers for this phase?

Interesting. What do you think of spirituality? Nonduality ? Idealism ? The hard proplem of consciousness? The origin of the universe? The existence of God or spiritual realms ?

Why don't you find it? the very fact that you keep making such posts means your still confused and unsure yourself. If you were truly grounded and embodied in the truth you share, you wouldn't need to always try to state and reinforce it on a platform or billboard. Those who know the truth don't need to make topics about it. its Jesus walking around saying I AM JESUS. This is the danger with neo-nonduality and mental awakening without awakening of the heart.

The end of lack implies lack is very much a part of reality. It’s not going to go away just because someone becomes enlightened. Lack is included within the syntax of human language, which the sense of ‘me’ or ego is bound by, and cannot escape from. This is why I ask the question does ‘Awakening ‘ want to awaken to the end of this so called knowledge. Or, would it rather stay in the dream of knowing, never to awaken from the dream. To just stay in the pure innocence of being without the sense of otherness. Awareness can become aware it is dreaming, where the sense of a separate self doesn’t exist, but this awakening from the dream might not be so appealing in a sense. Most people believe they exist as a separate real entity, they might not want the illusion of separation to come to an end. They may even prefer the sensation of realism, not the knowledge that is the end of knowledge, as in the non existence of a separate ‘me’ Awaken can be a double edge sword in this case. I’ve seen many people who have never heard of nonduality who are living completely blissful and compassionate lives, whom I’m sure would be pretty devastated if they found out they never existed as they once thought they did.

Nonduality is like Rupert Spira being aware of awareness, consciousness being aware of itself, look at me i‘m Rupert Spira i wear glasses 🤓 and have a British accent i‘m so woke. Here is what you can do to become more aware Radical Nonduality is like Tony Parsons and Andreas Müller, there is nobody, bo meaning, nothingness being everything. Look at me i‘m nothing 😎 there is nobody who can do anything. Alright thanks guys and glad we talked about it.