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Youth is the best time for inner transformation because youth is the most flexible time. Children are more flexible than young people, but they are not so understanding. They need a little experience. Youth is exactly the middle; you are no longer a child, no longer ignorant of life and its ways and not yet settled as an old man. You are in a state of transition, and the state of transition is the best time. Of course most of them cannot sit still like an old man too long, but there is no need to sit like an old man for longer duration. Someone asked Buddha, ”How shall we meditate?” Buddha replied, ”Whatsoever you do, do it with awareness; this is meditation. Walking, walk attentively, as if walking is everything; eating, eat with awareness, as if eating is everything; rising, rise with awareness; sitting, sit with awareness; all your actions become conscious, your mind does not travel beyond this moment, it remains in the moment, settles in the moment – this is meditation.”

It's the motion of your attention. That's why 'we' wanna educate the attention by various techniques. The more the attention is educated to be deliberately on the things which the will wants, the more transformation of the subconscious into the consciousness will be possible and available. If you are gonna ask the 'unconscious' now though? I'm out for now? see you later!? But, it's important not to get confused about the definitions, what Leo wrote is important to keep in mind, "You're thinking of consciousness as human awareness. That's not what is meant when we say everything is made of consciousness. What's meant is more like: The substance of everything is no-substance, which is consciousness." otherwise your fundamental sensation of life could get off-track, which seems as if it's not a big deal at all at first but, then people start to experience reflections of it unconsciously in their lives without understanding why they feel empty or unsatisfied..

You are lucky, you have wasted on 4 years and realized it. People waste their whole life, some after sex, some after money, some after fame ; when death comes they find they are empty, society has fooled them. Only few persons like Buddha die contented. Depression is a common mental disorder. Globally, more than 300 million people of all ages suffer from depression. Most of them have some experience with the opposite sex. Experience with the opposite sex doesn't necessarily end your miseries. But you gave better opportunity to grow into a mediator. Unless you are frustrated with yourself, there is no possibility for transformation. They are searching happiness and contentment in wrong direction. After a long journey, they will find that they are empty inside, but they will pretend to be happy in front of others to hide their tears. You find the source of blissfulness within you. Blissfulness which is not dependent on your circumstances. Find the knack of meditation.

There is no fixed road. Everyone is on a different road; we are not on one road. Even if you are following one technique of meditation, you are not on the same road as someone else who is doing the same technique; you cannot be. There is no public path. Every path is individual and personal. So no one’s experiences on the path will be helpful to you; rather, they may be damaging. Someone may be seeing something on his path. If he says to you that this is the sign of progress, you may not meet the same sign on your path. Meditation for me is not a child’s play. It is a deep transformation. On the path nothing more is needed than patience. The whole of life has to be meditative. Only then will you begin to feel things. And when I say that the whole life is to be meditative, I do not mean to go and close your eyes for twenty-four hours and sit and meditate – no! Wherever you are you can be sensitive and that sensitivity will pay. Only with this capacity of being aware of all things happening around you will you develop the capacity to feel what is happening within. Meditation is simply the name for life lived with awareness. Meditation is a lifestyle, not an activity. You can meditate for one hour every day to learn, to refresh, to give more energy and more roots – but don’t be satisfied that that’s enough.

@Preetom i like to talk to people and to listen. i like to know what makes them happy and sad. i like to look at their eyes and be able to really see them. i like to see children running and playing around. i like to see people healing themselves and shining like the big old sun. i like to dance and i like it when people dance with me. i did write a short journal. you can find it here. during my transformation i tried to write a book but i wasn't able to catch up. recently i've written a short book. it's in portuguese, though. about the 24/7 mindfulness practice, go for it. it's the best gift you can give to yourself and mainly to everyone around you :). pura graça.pdf

@ajasatya What motivates you to live every single day? Do you have a particular set of values? And about your transformation, is it something you feel totally complete or is it blooming into new territories as days go by? P.S: Can you please start a journal here in this forum where you will share your insights regularly?(1-3 times a week would be fine) Stuff like what was your previous perception of reality and how it has transformed now. Any tips, suggestion would be nice. As a fellow guy trying to go mindful 24/7, it would help a lot for me and others I'm sure. Just a few hours of mindfulness this morning revealed to me how gentle and soft our emotional health is. and how we abuse it unknowingly all the time and been probably doing it for decades

Would you say doing 5-MeO has facilitated the personal transformation process? As analogy, in RPGs, you can train many skills, but paying for a membership can boost the rate in which you get xp in any/every skill. From what it sounds like, 5-MeO and awakening experiences help you drop inner resistance and gain xp faster.

@Annetta Modern man is a very new phenomenon. No traditional method can be used exactly as it exists because modern man never existed before. So, in a way, all traditional methods have become irrelevant. For example, the body has changed so much. It is so drugged that no traditional method can be helpful. The whole atmosphere is artificial now: the air, the water, society, living conditions. Nothing is natural. You are born in artificiality; you develop in it. So traditional methods will prove harmful today. They will have to be changed according to the modern situation. Another thing: the quality of the mind has basically changed. In Patanjali’s [the most famous commentator on Yoga] days, the center of the human personality was not the brain; it was the heart. Before that, it was not even the heart. It was still lower, near the navel. The center has gone even further from the navel. Now, the center is the brain. That is why teachings like those of Krishnamurti have appeal. No method is needed, no technique is needed – only understanding. But if it is just a verbal understanding, just intellectual, nothing changes, nothing is transformed. It again becomes an accumulation of knowledge. I use chaotic methods rather than systematic ones because a chaotic method is very helpful in pushing the center down from the brain. The center cannot be pushed down through any systematic method because systemization is brainwork. Through a systematic method, the brain will be strengthened; more energy will be added to it. Through chaotic methods the brain is nullified. It has nothing to do. The method is so chaotic that the center is automatically pushed from the brain to the heart. If you do my method of Dynamic Meditation vigorously, unsystematically, chaotically, your center moves to the heart. Then there is a catharsis. A catharsis is needed because your heart is so suppressed, due to your brain. Your brain has taken over so much of your being that it dominates you. There is no place for the heart, so the longings of the heart are suppressed. You have never laughed heartily, never lived heartily, never done anything heartily. The brain always comes in to systematize, to make things mathematical, and the heart is suppressed. So firstly, a chaotic method is needed to push the center of consciousness from the brain toward the heart. Then catharsis is needed to unburden the heart, to throw off suppressions, to make the heart open. If the heart becomes light and unburdened, then the center of consciousness is pushed still lower; it comes to the navel. The navel is the source of vitality, the seed source from which everything else comes: the body and the mind and everything. I use this chaotic method very considerately. Systematic methodology will not help now, because the brain will use it as its own instrument. Nor can just the chanting of bhajans help now, because the heart is so burdened that it cannot flower into real chanting. Consciousness must be pushed down to the source, to the roots. Only then is there the possibility of transformation. So I use chaotic methods to push the consciousness downward from the brain. Whenever you are in chaos, the brain stops working. For example, if you are driving a car and suddenly someone runs in front of you, you react so suddenly that it cannot be the work of the brain. The brain takes time. It thinks about what to do and what not to do. So whenever there is a possibility of an accident and you push the brake, you feel a sensation near your navel, as if it were your stomach that is reacting. Your consciousness is pushed down to the navel because of the accident. If the accident could be calculated beforehand, the brain would be able to deal with it; but when you are in an accident, something unknown happens. Then you notice that your consciousness has moved to the navel. If you ask a Zen monk, “From where do you think?” he puts his hands on his belly. When Westerners came into contact with Japanese monks for the first time they could not understand. “What nonsense! How can you think from your belly? But the Zen reply is meaningful. Consciousness can use any center of the body, and the center that is nearest to the original source is the navel. The brain is furthest away from the original source, so if life energy is moving outward, the center of consciousness will become the brain. And if life energy is moving inward, ultimately the navel will become the center. Chaotic methods are needed to push the consciousness to its roots, because only from the roots is transformation possible. Otherwise you will go on verbalizing and there will be no transformation. It is not enough just to know what is right. You have to transform the roots; otherwise you will not change. When a person knows the right thing and cannot do anything about it, he becomes doubly tense. He understands, but he cannot do anything. Understanding is meaningful only when it comes from the navel, from the roots. If you understand from the brain, it is not transforming. The ultimate cannot be known through the brain, because when you are functioning through the brain you are in conflict with the roots from which you have come. Your whole problem is that you have moved away from the navel. You have come from the navel and you will die through it. One has to come back to the roots. But coming back is difficult, arduous. Traditional methods have an appeal because they are so ancient and so many people have achieved through them in the past. They may have become irrelevant to us, but they were not irrelevant to Buddha, Mahavira, Patanjali or Krishna. They were meaningful, helpful. The old methods may be meaningless now, but because Buddha achieved through them they have an appeal. The traditionalist feels: “If Buddha achieved through these methods, why can’t I?” But we are in an altogether different situation now. The whole atmosphere, the whole thought-sphere, has changed. Every method is organic to a particular situation, to a particular mind, to a particular man. The fact that the old methods don’t work doesn’t mean that no method is useful. It only means that the methods themselves must change. As I see the situation, modern man has changed so much that he needs new methods, new techniques.” Osho, The Psychology of the Esoteric, Talk #4

Anyone who says , there is direct and simple method which is suitable for everyone is deceiving you. J. Krishnamurti was insisting his whole life that there is no technique for meditation. And the total result was not that millions of people attained to meditation; the total result was that millions of people became convinced that no technique is needed for meditation. But they forgot all about what they were going to do with the obstructions, the hindrances. So they remained intellectually convinced that no technique is needed. It is easy to meditate if you don’t want to be blissful — it is very easy to meditate. Many people have tried to meditate without bliss because it is simple, less complex. You have to take only one work upon yourself: that you have to still your mind. And you can force your mind to be stilled, but you will become sad, you will have a long face. They have avoided the complexity of spiritual transformation. They have chosen meditation, they have forced their mind to be still. It is a negative state; their minds are only empty, not silent — forcibly made still. But it is not a natural growth of silence, it is not the flowering of silence. Their silence is like the cemetery, it is not the silence of a garden. You can meditate, force yourself to be silent. the whole truth is: bliss PLUS meditation. It is difficult of course, arduous, to manage both.

@Leo Gura I see, thank you. As for being hardcore, it's a long-term goal, but I'm not shy to admit that I need to do a lot more prep before handling that level of work. I've minimalized my life to just consciousness work and life purpose, but I still sort of have to tip-toe around the intense work since I was overwhelmed by going full blast without much prep, so now I spend a lot of my time reading up on the theory while being more mild with the practice since I'm a rookie. Are you referring to the post-enlightenment work you and others talk about, such as embodying Truth and working on the unhealthy ego structures? I'm a bit confused about that as well (I'm going to be hitting up Peter Ralston's series pretty soon and I know he discusses that). Ingram talked about training in morality as an important part of development on the path, and I know a lot of teachers emphasize things like love and compassion, but I don't get if I'm supposed to intuitively grasp right action as a result of my practice or if that is an endeavor of it's own. You speak about this sort of stuff here: Is this stuff part of pursuing Enlightenment, or is it transformation advice that isn't necessarily about pursuing Truth, or both?

All our problems are very small, but our ego magnifies them, makes them as big as it can. The ego cannot do otherwise; its anger has also to be great. When you are angry with someone and you throw your anger on him, you are creating a chain reaction. Now he too will be angry. There is no need to throw anger on anybody. You can go to your bathroom, you can go on a long walk – it means that something is inside that needs fast activity so that it is released. Just do a little jogging and you will feel it is released, or take a pillow and beat the pillow, fight with the pillow, and bite the pillow until your hands and teeth are relaxed. Within a five-minute catharsis you will feel unburdened, and once you know this you will never throw it on anybody, because that is absolutely foolish. The first thing in transformation then is to express anger, but not on anybody, because if you express it on somebody you cannot express it totally. You may like to kill, but it is not possible; you may like to bite, but it is not possible. But that can be done to a pillow. A pillow means ‘already enlightened’; the pillow is enlightened, a buddha. The pillow will not react, and the pillow will not go to any court, and the pillow will not bring any enmity against you, and the pillow will not do anything. The pillow will be happy, and the pillow will laugh at you.

@faith When meditating, working on yourself, if you wonder whether you are making any progress or not, know well that you are not making any progress – because when progress is made you know it. Why? It is just as when you are ill and you are taking medicine. Won’t you be able to feel whether you are getting healthy or not? If you do not feel it and the question arises of whether you are getting well or not, know well that you are not getting well. Well-being is such a clear feeling that when you have it you know it. But why does this question arise? This question arises for so many reasons. One, you are not really working. You are just deceiving yourself. You are playing tricks with yourself. You are less concerned with what you are doing and more concerned with what is happening. If you are really doing it, you can leave the result to existence. But our minds are such that we are less concerned with the cause and more concerned with the effect – because of greed. Greed wants to have everything without doing anything. So the greedy mind goes on moving ahead. Then the greedy mind asks, 'What is happening? Is something happening or not?' Be really concerned with what you are doing, and when something happens you will know it. It is going to happen to you. You need not ask anyone. There is no fixed road. Everyone is on a different road; we are not on one road. Even if you are following one technique of meditation, you are not on the same road as someone else who is doing the same technique; you cannot be. There is no public path. Every path is individual and personal. So no one’s experiences on the path will be helpful to you; rather, they may be damaging. Someone may be seeing something on his path. If he says to you that this is the sign of progress, you may not meet the same sign on your path. The same trees may not be on your path; the same stones may not be on your path. So do not be a victim of all this nonsense. Only certain inner feelings are relevant. For example, if you are progressing, then certain things will begin to happen spontaneously. One, you will feel more and more contentment. Really, when meditation is completely fulfilled, one becomes so contented that he forgets to meditate – because meditation is an effort, a discontent. If one day you forget to meditate and you do not feel any addiction, you do not feel any gap, you are as filled as ever, then know it is a good sign. Do not make meditation a habit. Let it be alive! Then discontent will disappear by and by; you will feel contentment, and not only while you are meditating. If something happens only while you are meditating, it is false, it is hypnotic. It does some good but it is not going to be very deep. It is good only in comparison. If there is nothing happening, no meditation, no blissful moment, do not worry about it. If something is happening, do not cling to it. If meditation is going rightly, deep, you will feel transformed throughout the whole day. A subtle contentment will be present every moment. With whatsoever you are doing, you will feel a cool center inside…contentment. Of course there will be results. Anger will be less and less possible. It will go on disappearing. Why? – because anger shows a non-meditative mind, a mind that is not at ease with itself. With meditation you will be more and more happy with yourself – remember, with yourself. These will be signs, the general signs. So do not think you are achieving much if you are beginning to see light or if you go on seeing beautiful colors. They are good but do not feel satisfied unless real psychological changes are there: less anger, more love; less cruelty, more compassion. Unless this happens, your seeing lights and colors and hearing sounds are child’s play. They are beautiful, very beautiful; it is good to play with them – but that is not the aim of meditation. They happen on the road, they are just by-products, but do not be concerned. In a relationship, observe what is happening. How are you behaving toward your wife now? Observe it. Is there any change? That change is meaningful. How are you behaving with your servant? Is there any change? That change is significant. Meditation for me is not a child’s play. It is a deep transformation. How to know this transformation? First you will feel your inner transformation in your outer relationships, and then you will go deep. Then only will you begin to feel something inner. So probe into, penetrate your relationships, and look there to see whether your meditation is progressing or not. If you feel a growing love, unconditional love, if you feel a compassion without cause, if you feel a deep concern for everyone’s welfare, well-being, your meditation is growing. Then forget all other things. With this observation you will also observe many things in yourself. You will be more silent; you will have less noise within. When there is a need you will talk, when there is no need you will be silent. You will feel more at ease, relaxed. Whatsoever you are doing, it will be a relaxed effort; there will be no strain. You will become less and less ambitious. Ultimately, there will be no ambition. Even the ambition to reach moksha will not be there. Even the desire for liberation is a bondage. Even the desire to be desireless is a bondage. One thing more: whatsoever you are doing, do not think that results will be coming in the future. If you are doing something real, results are here and now. In inner work, if you have meditated today, results are not going to be tomorrow. If you have meditated today. the perfume of it, howsoever little, will be there. If you are sensitive you can feel it. Whenever something real is done, it affects you here and now. So meditation is not just a certain thing which you do for one hour and forget. Really, the whole of life has to be meditative. Only then will you begin to feel things. And when I say that the whole life is to be meditative, I do not mean to go and close your eyes for twenty-four hours and sit and meditate – no! Wherever you are you can be sensitive and that sensitivity will pay. Then there will be no need to ask, 'Am I progressing or not?' Only with this capacity of being aware of all things happening around you will you develop the capacity to feel what is happening within. Osho, The Ultimate Alchemy, Vol 2, Talk #18

Yes , Spirituality is very contagious but real transformation happens in presence of an enlightened master, if you are open and receptive. In the East, we have developed a science: if you cannot find a soul mate, you can create one. And that science is Tantra.

Contemplation time! There is no SELF! There is no YOU! There is no I! Self is an illusion Self is a dream, wake up Transformation is possible because there is no fixed self Self is created but it is not true and therefore self creates suffering, just like believing you are the president of the USA is not true. It's a false belief and results in problems and suffering. Self is a habit Think back to a conversation you had yesterday. There was no separate identity, just life talking to life. Life playing a game with itself. What are the illusions you live based on the belief that there is a self? There is no self! There is no YOU! YOU = 0 YOU + sensations = sensations YOU + emotions = emotions YOU + thoughts = thoughts Banana-milkshake, potato Relax, you don't exist As yourself a question. E.g. "Who am I?". Who is answering? No one. Thoughts arise. Where do they arise from? Who do they talk to? Where do they disappear into? Knock knock - Who is there? - No one Say your name to yourself in your thoughts. Realise that this process of reading, remembering a name, thinking is just a conditioning! No-self involved here. ThEr iS nO YoU! YOU, Stop! Say your name to yourself in your thoughts. Bring up some childhood memories. Bring up what you did yesterday. Think about what you hate. Think about who you love. Say your name over and over and over. Do it! DO IT! ..... THERE IS NO YOU! It's a misconception. False programming. Fiction. No-Self is hard business. Ego feeds not only to the bad stuff like fear but also on the good, like your dreams or the idea that there is special someone out there who will make you happy for the rest of your life. It's okay to grief those ideas. But hey, cheer up, it's nothing but the TRUTH. Think about some kittens. They are cute, right? Okay back to business. Thinking there is no self over and over is kind of stupid. 'Cause there is no self! No one is there. "Ding Dong", oh, no one is home Don't think about a pink zebra. You did right? It's a reflex. There is no you Remember when you tried to form a habit or brake one and you couldn't. No-self comes with no free will. Who is there to have one? Look, each part of your body has it's role, interacts, influences and is influenced by other parts of your body. But not part has totalitarian dictatorship over the others. It's an interplay. there is no self at the top of the hierarchy. EVERY TIME you think don't accept what is, because you think there is a YOU who has a say in whatever, you are fooling yourself. STOP FOOLING YOURSELF! There is no SELF! There is no YOU! There is no I! Self is an illusion Self is a dream, wake up ZZZzzZZzzzzzZzzzz How else could it be put in words?

@The White Belt I was trying to be mindful when I was doing my everyday stuff, like walking, eating etc... I had to remind myself to be mindful when I started to practice it.. But in six months time, it became a habit... I was doing in almost all the waking hours.. But I did take breaks from reading spiritual books or thinking about anything that has to do with spirituality.. The longest break was about two years, I think.. But being mindful of my thoughts and emotions continued as a habit... At one point in 2014, when I started listening to spiritual talks and reading books again after a break, I began to practice it even more intensely and it led to a transformation. I have written more about it here: https://nellaishanmugam.wordpress.com/2017/05/10/the-journey-of-a-seeker-my-story/ But after this transformation, things have become weird... I don't have any motivation to intensely practice mindfulness because my search and desire for enlightenment disappeared. The transformation also took away the psychological boundaries between 'me' and 'others'.. Also, when I was practicing mindfulness earlier, there was a gap between the 'observer' and the 'observed' (my thoughts, feelings etc)... But the transformation also resulted in merging the observer and the observed together.. I am mindful without any effort at all.. But when I am involved in deep thinking (like trying to figure out certain things or thinking about what I should write in my blog etc), I don't pay any attention to the surroundings at all. I give my whole attention and mental energy on the stuff I am thinking about... This will not fit into how mindfulness is generally understood these days, because clinical mindfulness scale will rate you low on mindfulness if you are not paying attention to your sense perceptions.... But when I am not doing this thinking, my mind is very calm and still.. I am still trying to make sense of the transformation that happened and things are getting settled down for me now...

If she is awakened then her past can't influence her present behavior, if she is awakened then her past can't disturb her now. Don't expect that she will behave like normal victim of abuse, even after spiritual progress. Spirituality is inner transformation.

Solfeggio frequencies make up the ancient 6-tone scale thought to have been used in sacred music, including the beautiful and well known Gregorian Chants. The chants and their special tones were believed to impart spiritual blessings when sung in harmony. Each Solfeggio tone is comprised of a frequency required to balance your energy and keep your body, mind and spirit in perfect harmony. Overtime 3 more have been found which all also resonate with each chakra. 00:00 - 174Hz Frequency is natural anaesthetic. It relieves pain and gives your organs a sense of safety, love and security and encourages them to do their best. 05:00 - 285Hz Solfeggio Frequency - Heals and Regenerates Tissues , Restructures damaged organs by sending message to Tissues, Bringing them to original form. 10:00 - 396Hz Solfeggio Frequency gives Power to Your Goals. It eradicates feeling of guilt, even the guilt residing deep in subconscious mind 15:00 - 417Hz Solfeggio Frequency Removes Negative Energy from the Body, Home and Office 20:00 - 528Hz Solfeggio Frequency Music returns human DNA to its original, perfect state. It brings transformation and miracles into your life. 25:00 - 639 Hz frequency enables creation of harmonious interpersonal relationships. This tone can be used for dealing with relationships problems – those in family, between partners, friends. 30:00 - 741Hz Frequency Cleans the Cells and Detoxifies the cells and organs 35:00 - 852Hz Solfeggio Frequency Awakens Inner Strength and Raises Cell Energy 40:00 - 963Hz Frequency helps in Pineal Gland Activation and is associated with awakening intuition. http://naturalchakrahealing.com/chakra-solfeggio-frequency.html https://attunedvibrations.com/solfeggio/

Watch Leo's video on ”The Power of Self-Acceptance”. You must at first love all your flaws to death before a powerful transformation can happen. Leo has videos on how to create a vision too.

Thank you i was a muslim from the begining , after a while i became an athiest, nihilist, then found about meditation. i didn't read a lot of books about it. i did breathing meditation for 9 months, then quit meditation. after about 10 months, I have started again with same breathing technique, and did it for about 3 months, then i was tired of it again. that's when i found Leo and started self inquiry. i have been self inquiring for about 4 months, and first month was an hour per day. in the 3rd month, it means last month, i had added another 30 minutes in the evening, 30 minutes of 'do nothing' technique, and also Focus exercise before each of those three for 5 minutes. Thanks for sharing that with us When the shift occurred, i was shocked for less than a second and let go, that was real transformation. the emerge i experienced was not as i imagined and so i thought that maybe awakening didn't occurred, but then i let go. so you say what i have experienced was Samadhi?

Ha ha.. please stop getting preachy and just parroting Osho for everything.... I am familiar with almost everything that Osho said and I made it very clear that I also went through a transformation... Now I can kind of predict all the replies you would ever give me because you are just going to repeat Osho's words.. And I know what Osho would usually respond with for many questions... When I said Osho fabricated the story, i didn't mean to say that he was doing something wrong. I already made it very clear in my post.. In fact, Osho fabricated things by adding more spice and color and also making those stories in such a way which will enable him to convey what he intended to say.. That was his way... He himself said that many times.. You are asking me what difference it would make if it is fabricated or true... Nothing! I don't do things just because it is going to make a difference.. I do things if I enjoy doing it, period... I enjoy this discussion and hence I am sharing my views... It is not that I have a problem with it and trying to solve it. And you seem to be doing something that Osho would never approve of.. You are simply parroting Osho. Osho was against any kind of parroting.. Do you remember something that Osho always used to say?.. "“It is said that if you meet the Buddha on the Way, kill him".. He said that to make sure that we don't make concepts out of Osho's words... Osho's guidance helped me to get rid of my preconceived notions and see the reality the way it is but I actually ended up getting stuck with Osho's words at one point. Then I had to make a huge effort to get rid of them.. In other words, I 'killed' Osho... (said in the context of the quote 'if you meet the Buddha on the Way, kill him' ).. You will have to eventually do it at some point.. Because you seem to have got stuck with the words of Osho and literally trying to imitate him... You are asking me '"you think he was interested in stuffing you with great knowledge?....".. What made you to think that is what I thought? I know very well that he was not interested in feeding people with knowledge and make them into scholars.. I am familiar with all his contradictions.. So, I would appreciate if you stop preaching..I don't derive my identity from knowledge and I don't depend on the knowledge or anything else to define me... I don't even have to rely on an identity for fulfillment. I have crossed the boundaries of things which kept me in imprisonment..

@Prabhaker Thanks for all the examples.. This discussion is getting interesting.. I am familiar with most of them and I once had the exact same view that you have now... However, After my transformation (I am reluctant to call it enlightenment though), I started seeing things in a different way. It is very clear that most of these people criticized each other. I also remember U.G.Krishnamurti criticizing Ramana as egoistic. But the question is, is this type of criticism really a devise or just a fundamental attribution error? You seem to have completely accepted it when Osho said that criticism is really a devise.. Even I did the same thing years ago.. But now i don't think that is the case.. Criticism can be used as a devise in stopping people from jumping to different paths and some of the criticisms might have been devices.. But not all of them and not always.. I think most of these criticisms are just an attribution error that human beings are prone to, even after enlightenment... I will give you an example of this attribution error made by Osho.. Here is an excerpt from his book 'Theologia Mystica': "Somebody in Vishnu Devananda's own organization has been deceiving him for years.... It is good that Vishnu Devananda has confessed that somebody in his own organization was deceiving him, but what does it show? It shows one thing: that Vishnu Devananda is a fool. If somebody in his own organization, his own disciple can deceive him, then what integrity has he got and what consciousness? He should drop being a Master, he should stop initiating people. He has lost all right to." But if you are familiar with happenings in Rajneeshpuram, Osho talked about Sheela deceiving him all those days without his knowledge. His own personal secretary was deceiving him.. Sheela left Rajneeshpuram on 14 Sep 1985, in the whole new series that Osho started called 'From Bondage to Freedom', Osho talked mostly about how Sheela had been deceiving her all the time. This is an obvious example of a fallacy that all human beings have, whether enlightened or not... Here are some more examples of Osho's cognitively biased criticisms (Note: I always have respect on Osho and the work he has done.. I am familiar with both his extraordinary talent, charisma and his imperfections.. So, this is not to put him in a bad light.. But to show you the reality of enlightenment and point out some of the misconceptions that people have developed overtime) 1. In the initial years, Osho regarded Nostradamus as simply a crazy man. This is what he said about his predictions: “Nostradamus can be interpreted in any way you want. The sentences are not clear, the grammar is not correct. The words are such that you can fit them into any context you want”. But just read what he said about the same man later, when it seemed like Nostrademus predictions about a great future teacher fit with Osho: “Just a few days ago, I was seeing one of the most significant books to be published in this century, ‘Millenium’. It is a deep research into Nostradamus and his predictions. Eighty thousand copies were published – which is very rare – and they were sold within weeks. Now a second publication, a second edition, is happening in America, another is happening in England, and the book is being translated into many other languages – Dutch, German…. Nostradamus was a great mystic with an insight into the future. And you will be surprised to know that in his predictions, I am included. Describing the teacher of the last days of the twentieth century, he gives eight indications. Krishnamurti fulfills five, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi fulfills three, Da Free John fulfills four – and I was amazed that I fulfill all eight. In this book ‘Millenium’, they have made a chart of the teacher about whom Nostradamus is predicting – that his people will wear red clothes, that he will come from the East, that he will be arrested, that his commune will be destroyed, that flying birds will be his symbol, that his name will mean moon…. Three hundred years ago that man was seeing something that fits perfectly with me – my name means “the moon.” And in their chart they have declared me the teacher of the last part of the twentieth century.” Obviously, when Osho found this as boosting his superiority, he regarded the same man as mystic. 2. Initially Osho didn’t criticize S.N Goenka and even asked his disciples to attend a Vipassana retreat by Goenka. But once Osho heard that Goenka in an interview had said that Osho was his student before, Osho started criticizing S.N Goenka so harshly. 3. Osho always considered J.Krishnamurti as enlightened. When he heard that J.K had criticized him recently, Osho immediately reacted to it in his next discourse. He said that J.K was just in the border of enlightenment and is not enlightened yet. He also made the same statement in his last book Zen Manifesto. Also, from the link you sent me regarding Ramakrishna (http://www.bengalcuisine.in/ram-krishna), it is obvious that the incident that Osho quotes is fabricated (I don't think it is wrong... But I wanted to show how Sadhguru used Osho's examples but didn't endorse him or talk about him at all).. 1. Ramakrishna fasted for 8 days before dying.. So, it is obvious that Ramakrishna did not stop eating just three days before, as it is narrated by Sadhguru and Osho. 2. Ramakrishna did not die in spite of not being able to eat when he had cancer... So it is not true that he has to rely on the food or desire for the food to keep his body alive..

I always post teaching of Osho on this forum. A master is not interested in teaching us true historical facts. What good it will do if we learn correct history or science? Earth is round or flat ? Life originated on earth 6000 years ago or billions of years ago ? For him our transformation is important. I am providing you excerpts from department of tourism, government of West Bengal , website. The Master smoked tobacco a few times a day [as was the custom in those days], using a hubble-bubble that he kept in the southwest corner of his room. Whenever Ramakrishna went to Calcutta his attendant always carried his towel and spice bag, which contained fennel seeds, cloves, cubeb, caraway, and cardamom. Sri Ramkrishna Paramahansa was very fond of Sandesh and Jilipi. Ramakrishna loved all foods, not just sweets. Perhaps he experienced the divine through his sense of taste. Not strange. As food went past his taste buds and entered his stomach a sense of joy radiated and filled his entire body. Sometimes he would walk out of a gathering of disciples, run to the kitchen, smell or taste what was ready and dart back. His wife, Ma Sarada, at times felt embarrassed wondering what people would think. But Ramakrishna was oblivious, for he knew that some mysterious power was in control and he was doing its bidding. He never talked about his weakness for food because he said he did not wish to attract a following of gluttons. Ramakrishna enjoyed food all his life, experienced great joy, and kept quiet about it. His followers reverently ignored his weakness. http://www.bengalcuisine.in/ram-krishna

No formal technique is necessary. Through intention alone you can cultivate all kinds of states - from the mundane to the exalted. Easier said than done though. Sometimes techniques and formal practices only work more easily because they bypass our held beliefs about what we can and can't do. We think we can't just simply relax and be happy for no reason other than because we want to, so we meditate because we believe that will do it for us, and then we reap some of the results. Bashar would call these 'permission slips'. It is possible to create a state inwardly and hold that identity or state firmly, and eventually that identity or reality will be reflected in your emotions, thoughts, physicality, and the rest of your experience allowing for a total transformation. One of the powers behind psychedelics is that they temporarily strip away lots of held limiting beliefs and so it's easier to access states of higher clarity, intuition or bliss - but this dynamic can reinforce the idea we need to do something (take something, do a certain kind of meditation, etc) to reach certain states of being. It is possible to, for example, work yourself into states of really high bliss comparable to MDMA, or to effortlessly receive answers to your questions. This can be done by consciously generating the reality of your desire inwardly. If you continue to look towards your external experience to determine how you aught to feel, think and behave, then you will continue to generate that same reality which is governed by unconscious patterns. If you can consciously hold your inward reality and choose to frame your entire experience as confirmation of the reality that you're now choosing to align with, then it's only a matter of time before it is reflected externally . The art comes in aligning in fulfillment of your chosen reality now. If you are expecting, waiting or hoping for a change in the external reality, then that change won't come because you're still associating with the old experience. If you know you can have anything you want right now by freely and consciously choosing to have it and so you rest in that fulfillment now, then reality will start to quickly align with that experience and generate it in your external experience, feeling, thoughts, synchronicities and whatever perceptions it takes to fulfill your desired state perfectly. It's a bit of an art and there are many different techniques, teachings and approaches on the subject. A lot of it is just removing the barriers and beliefs that say you can't generate your states from within - or that external reality governs in the internal. Experience says that the opposite is true - that the inward reality generates your entire experience. Discovery of this takes some dedication, openness, but most importantly the willingness to find out for yourself.

You don't think it.. "it" being what exactly? That there are incorrect thoughts? Ok, good so far. Enlightenment is the awakening of consciousness from delusional thoughts and perspectives. It is the transformation from one way of thinking to another. You don't just give up thought due to enlightenment. But yes, thoughts and emotions aren't enlightenment in the sense that they are different things than enlightenment. Awareness is not enough. If one does not accumulate the adequate wisdom required for enlightenment or doesn't do enough to fully assimilate such wisdom, enlightenment cannot be had or sustained.

Psychedelics can give you a glimpse of reality at the most. That glimpse is just a far-away echo of real thing. It is very cheap. Meditation techniques can't give you even a glimpse, they prepare ground for meditation. Meditation happens, you can't do it. Journey towards meditation is long and arduous. It is your complete transformation. It is a mutation. Meditation is a knack. Once you know how to enter into meditation, how to become available for meditation, then your real spiritual journey starts. Now you have to live a meditative life, now you can really sit silently doing nothing, then Samadhi (self-realization) happens. Samadhi gives you experiences far richer than psychedelics, after Samadhi you will attain many psychic powers, great wisdom, paradise on earth.