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ofc not, all suicide committers should be thrown in jail, CRIMINAL SCUM

To assume that anyone is in the position to decide whether we are allowed to commit suicide or not is exactly the same as assuming to be in a position of deciding over someone else's life/death altogether. Are you allowed to live? Well, nobody is in the position to decide that for someone else, at least according to our common sense and law.* Are you allowed to die? Do you see how this is basically the same question? *I live in Europe; death penalty is not allowed, so my reasoning might vary to the laws of your particular country.

What could be the answer according to philosophy , spirituality or just personal opinion? I don't mean if its bad or good to do it!

Unlike you LMFAO You didn't answer my question about free samples, why is that? Let's try again Have you ever seen free samples? How is giving away food supposed to make companies money? I guess we'd find out or Jeff and Amazon would take the let's say 10 million dollar loss, would likely be suicide inducing and devastating, but it is what it is. 10 million for 100billionaire is a lot or something, 10 million for a trillion dollar company is a ton or sumfin.

@Shyamal I'm with you and can feel your pain. I lost 2 of my only true friends both to suicide. I think for 80% of people they just need more opportunity, something to aim towards, a sense of hope and more social connections, more activity. ** Having said that though, one of the friends had plenty opportunity, I wonder if some people just get depression too bad, genetic susceptibility. I feel that mushrooms might have helped him.

Ive tried so many things this past ten years and nothing works, i am having suicidal thoughts on a regular bases, i think that i wont commit suicide because i want to solve this shit first..

Yea it's silly but it probably comes from the idea that you can't get hurt if you're perfect or something like that. Also comparing your insides (insecurities, feelings, tension etc) to other people outside appearance. But a lot of times people make a great appearance but it's the opposite on the inside as we for example see with suicide in hollywood stars, ceo's etc. Do you have any tips or techniques for embracing every part of your being?

Wed 12/16/2020 22:38 I am deeply, deeply unsatisfied with life. I'm not as neurotic about it, my mind feels relatively stable and calm strangely. But the depth to this sense is all-encompassing and existential. Feel good, feel bad, high, low, what's the point of that? " The meaning is to be happy " ? " I'll exist and then I'll die". The human condition feels shitty. I'll exist and then I'll die. I'll exist and then I'll die. "Who will die?" is the question I suppose -- Screw the people who challenge this nihilism with naivety and denial -- Have I created a circular loop here? I get this sense that perhaps I have, upon trying to investigate. I have to open to the fact I won't get an answer. But I guess I really am trying to look at what triggers it and..... Mind is going blank, just this entanglement of things There's something but it's so slippery ______________________________ Recently I was quite ecstatic and joyous ( not right now though) , I feel the return of myself after stopping SSRI's. A literal 6th or 7th sense to my perception and consciousness has returned more now. 23:00 I feel so incredibly tempted to drown out my awareness. My mind was calm but it's a slow crescendo of chaos. I'll go meditate, even though my mind is quite literally scared that such a thing would be suicide, but that's fear mongering. +1 ,00:32 I feel amazingly manic, overflowing with energy. I meditated, with no method, but with my entire being , all my heart and soul, I was intent on breaking through. Unexpected shifts happened as lots of energy and things just bubbling up, in a good and neutral way. The intense focus and drive to breakthrough, that's probably "masculine". And I feel overflowing with it. But near the end of the session, I noticed that I was tensed too much, and needed to relax this manic alpha-male drive. The image which came to my mind of this over tensing was a meshed grid made out of dirt. All that focusing and intensity, it now feels painful and draining. Yet, "surrendering" it also feels painful. There's this constant back and forth, oscillating, between ('two', as the categories are drawn) different approaches. My intense focus and drive was necessary. But now I have to surrender it, otherwise I shall burn out from all that forcing. But surrendering this, it feels so very difficult, because my energy is so overwhelmingly large. "ego inflation" perhaps. A much needed inflation. -- My underlying questions that I poured my entire being to meditate on, why I suffer, what's the meaning of life, they weren't answered. And I haven't forgot that. Mania and energy is cool but I'm not satisfied by theatrics. I will keep waging war, I will keep pouring my entire being, because there is literally nothing else. This is the one and only thing I care about, all else can burn to the ground. "Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists."

@Enlightenment This is for MAJOR depression thou. That's the suicidal type where people unless sedated, can end up taking their life. For MDD antidepressants work well. The problem is that most people suffer from mild-to-moderate depression. Research shows that when compared with placebo even the most effective antidepressants like fluoxetine actually don't produce a lot of long term results. And when compared with herbs like St John's Wort, Saffron or 5-HTP there is actually very little difference (for mild or moderate). None of the herbs are effective for major depression thou. I think generally the drugs are used so that the doctors cover themselves in case the patient tries to kill themselves. If you, as a doctor, don't prescribe antidepressants and the patients commits suicide, you will lose license and can end up jailed if they prove that it was your fault. This is basically why all these toxic drugs are prescribed very often. Same for statins and diabetes drugs. Most of it is medical system covering itself and creating a sense that there is no other solution. A lot of people take these drugs for years and nobody ever investigated. It becomes part of their life, they learn to associate with the disease and they become the disease. I don't know if you ever knew a depressed person but they become The disease. The anxiety becomes the centre of their life and they will not let you help them even if you want to. This is partially why working with mental health is extremely difficult because most people don't believe it can be treated.

@No Self @kag101 @evgn I am sorry to all of you for ignoring your advice and not being willing and not checking afterward about the rest of the responses that appeared on this thread for life situation advice and answers for me. I am re-visiting this thread because I had a similar mind and emotional hit just now similarly when I wrote this thread when I was reading from and studying from a book for an English exam on 15th of November, this time I attempted to force myself to study and stay focused to read a more demanding and thicker book that I need to read as a part for an obligatory written paper I need to send for a crucial exam on 29th of December, under similarly felt crucial life obligation circumstances and challenges, when I wrote this thread the strong thought identification pattern with my mother and of me reliving a part her state of being right after she committed suicide 15 years ago exactly on 25th of December 2005. as my father told me on Saturday and he felt similarly strong emotional pressure and composure difficulties because of the nearing of that date that he justified as the reason why he mistreated and yelled out of panic and fear at my grandmother, which I now live with, for being suspicious she will leave a larger part of my passed grandfather's apartment to his sister than him and emerged used to justify the strongly felt victim mentality that I can't do this now for my life, challenge and mental growth sake and for the sake of other's, especially financially my father, who's consequences of me not being able to give enough exam's means that I will lose my mother's pension which helps me finance my studies in the first place and which my father relies on to cover the expenses of his apartment and which means I would lose the ability to finance my studies and would have to find and work a job with no qualifications and almost no work experience and skills. Sorry again for not responding to your comments and advice earlier and taking them heart during that time a month ago but I will re-read them and strive to take them to the heart during this very critical and hard time for me in order to achieve some of the necessary tasks I need to accomplish in order to be able to participate in exams that my main motives, thoughts, and feelings during the day now direct me and push me towards achieving them for financial as well as for above-mentioned reasons but also a part of me that I try to re-surface through short meditation routines during the day from time to time for needing to experience this as a challenge that will determine will I be able to do this for the sake of me being fulfilled, relatively secure of remaining a student for the next couple of months and not needing to leave faculty as a result immediately and look for a job and happy and other people that partly rely on me and the outcome of these exams obligations and upcoming exams that I need to register.

Every death is suicide, we poison our selves everyday. Alcohol, medication, sugar, fatty foods, etc. the only difference is same day death or 60 years later death, it's all suicide.

@DecemberFlower Two years of personal growth work is actually not a very long time. I've been working on myself since I was 16 (after my only suicide attempt) and I didn't really see the best results until maybe a few years ago (age 37). I'm 39 now. Don't worry -- I'm not saying it will take you 20+ years to see results; I also had some serious health problems to attend to. What I am saying is that you will be working on yourself the rest of your life (as we all should be) as there is always something to work on. That said, I think what you are getting at, that your girlfriend is no longer a good fit for you, is a sign of major progress. Your intuition is telling you to move on, which is very scary since this is your first relationship. However, it's very natural in the process of personal development for your life to turn upside down and look like you're going backward when what is actually happening is that you're making major progress. It just doesn't look like it right now as you don't have much in the physical world to show for it yet. If your intuition is telling you it's time to move on, I would do it before life forces you to have a painful breakup. Life has a way of moving you when you don't want to move. Someone asked me earlier today how to tell the difference between fear and intuition. It's a skill set that gets better over time, but my rule of thumb is if the voice in your head is making you upset (angry, nervous, etc.) it's fear/ego. If it is calming you down, even if it's bad news, it's intuition. You can always go back to college and finish if you like. You can learn a trade. You can start a YouTube channel. I think your intuition is on point like it is with your girlfriend -- you're 30 now and it's time to grow up and start doing the adulting thing. This is actually where I was 9 years ago, so congratulations. I'm not even saying it will take you 9 years, I can't guarantee a time frame. What I am saying is to follow your intuition. Your path will look weird and unpredictable to some, but your intuition will take you on the right path, and potentially the most direct one. Good luck with everything, and keep us updated on your progress.

@electroBeam I'm being honest with you cuz it might be helpful. But you are about as delusional as you can get in this thread. Just insane nihilism is all I'm hearing. stop spreading nonsense and encouraging suicide as the "point of life". "They don't resonate "because This forum is filled with intelligent people. You are not fooling anyone here. "the point of life" is clearly nothing but however you want. It's not an object that you discover. It's a subjective made up. The point of life is relative. It's a fabrication. So it might be the point of your life. But that doesn't mean it's the point of my life. Actually it's perfectly obvious that life is pointless. So even to say "happiness" "love" Yada Yada is still not correct. You talk about radical honesty and being a true seeker.. Well have the courage to admit that the actual point of life is ofcourse nothing but a subjective opinion. And that physical death might be just the point of YOUR perhaps "not smooth" life.

I'm very hesitant to talk about it TBH because its so radical and not many want to hear it. But yes you're correct. I have seen for myself that Full Awakening is not the highest, FULL AWAKENING is. You can be in a state where if you had a gun to your head, you'd 100% accept it. You'd still go through some negative emotions, yet you'll watch those emotions from a distance and let it flow through. And that's because there's no human you, and this entire life was just a way of setting yourself up to fall in love with yourself really hard (infinite love realization). That's the state I'm in now. Yet I am definitely not awake. No where close. But you're still hiding something even when you're in Full Awakening. You're playing the game. Playing the game is actually you hiding something if you look close enough(if you dare bahahahaha). You're hiding the fact that the whole point of life is mahasamadhi. Physical death. Suicide(actual 100% dementia, not some pseudo death where you still remember your name and who you are and the forum and your parents ). That's actually the point of it. Physical death isn't some cool phenomena that happens in the game. Its the point. The whole point is infinite dementia amnesia love. I heard from somewhere that Full Awakening is looking at the infinite from the finite mind. FULL AWAKENING is looking at the infinite from the infinite mind. IE dementia. You need to let go of everything to the point of dementia to be fully awake. Its not awakening if you still remember who you are and who others are and what the game is. The game needs to be totally eradicated for full awakening. I didn't realize that before the trip. I thought I was 100% awake, then that trip smashed me to pieces. I'm now just totally shocked, and I can see a trillion times more games being played on myself and others. And I can see that others are either at Full Awakening, or lower, and that's how I know on a relative level that people don't understand or get what I'm saying. The discussion between james and inenlightened is happening somewhere inbetween awakening and full awakening. Its very subtle. People are making that mistake about me on this thread. Their eyes aren't keen enough. They think I'm parroting what yogis have been saying for thousands of years, but I'm not. I'm saying something subtly different. Thoughts and the ego is amazingly sneaky. Within "who is the I that's saying that" lies a trillion opportunities for the ego to deceive. Context is important. Whose saying it is important. Just parroting "who is the I that's saying that" without acknowledgement of who and context allows the ego to be very very sneaky and clever. It allows the ego to make you think no self realization is the end of the road, when its actually mahasamadhi. People aren't taking in the context with what I'm saying. Mahasamadhi is not 0 thoughts. Mahasamadhi is a huge paradigm shift. No thoughts is 1 state of consciousness, not the highest. Definitely not the scariest, and definitely not the point. Yep sure there's no point to life and everything is just a dance, yet you will continue to seek, grow, integrate till mahasamadhi. Your desire is not to be in a state where you're playing the game. Your desire is to destroy the game forever, but you're too afraid to, so here you are. 0 thoughts is not destroying the game and getting amnesia. 0 thoughts is just a temporary state of consciousness that flees when you go back to looking at this forum for example lol. And even then, 0 thoughts is something that happens very early on in the path. As you advance you realize that thoughts occur, but not in your head, but in the universe. Its the universe thinking, not your skull. 0 thoughts is completely irrelevant to mahasamadhi. Even physical death doesn't describe mahasamadhi. Because if the average person dies, they'll just reincarnate. Mahasmadhi is knowing something that will change you so much that the dream gets destroyed. Its like once I know this I can't reincarnate ever again. I can't play the game ever again. I will never have parents ever again. I will never identify with blabla ever again. I will be infinite formlessness without a game for eternity. Physical death isn't knowing that, physical death is ignorance. Mahasamadhi is way more destructive and radical then physical death. I just use physical death as an example to illustrate the radicalness of what I'm talking about, because I know that enlightened beings still don't want physical death. But what I'm talking about is more getting an infinite nuclear bomb and ruining your chances of reincarnating into a form ever again.

"call off the search", "you woke from the dream to realise", "the waking dream was also dreamed" is definitely a very scary but important part of the path. You are this human in a 3D world, and your existence depends on the form of that human. The 3D world wont die, but your existence will. Fast forward to ego death and then you realize the 3D world doesn't exist, and you are not the human form but the present moment itself(no self realization). Then its all about living your life from that perspective for the next 60 years or so for most people. Been there. That's not what this post is about. As shockingly absurd as it would sound to you, you're not awake. All that stuff, is relative to the spiritual path. Machine elves don't have the same spiritual paths we do. Living your life from a state of no realization or even infinite love realization is all relative to the human form still. Doesn't matter that you're self realized, if you've got any honesty in you, you'd notice that if I put a gun to your head, especially if you're as young as 23, you'd still not be happy about it. You can still tell a difference between now and gun to your head and shot. See the woke people on here can talk all day about "whose the I thats saying all this" or "there is no death", yet there's a big difference between talking and doing, and I'd love to get a bunch of self realized beings, put a gun to their head, and demonstrate their reaction, to show that. Psychedelics are a great way of simulating that, and in my case I almost physically died. You can say that alan watts crap of "oh im afraid, but im not afraid of being afraid, and ill 100% accept the fear" crap all you like, but no matter whether you're state is constantly self realization or not, you will not be ok with gun to your head. Simple. No one on here is awake. I know that for a fact, because I created everyone. 100% awake is complete dementia. Not human level dementia, god level dementia(and isn't this God damn obvious? You, the self realized being, are still ensuring you don't get hit by a bus. What drive is causing that? Devilry, ignorance, not wanting the truth, not wanting mahasamadhi, because you aren't awake. Once you're truly awake, you will be so demented that you wont know what getting hit by a bus is). Its forgetting to such an extreme level that if I asked you what your name was you'd act like you have dementia. Its complete and utter amnesia. Amnesia to the point that you'd forget what amnesia is. On the relative plane, its leaving the body. If you're not demented, then you aren't awake. And you're not, because you're still talking to me. True awake is physical death, not ego death. Ego death is fooling around. You might be awake, yet you're still integrating, still growing. And you're still integrating and growing because you still aren't satisfied. You might think you're satisfied without an ego, but you aren't, you're just pseudo satisfied. Its quite obvious, if you were 100% satisfied you wouldnt be integrating or growing at all. And that's because the only thing that will 100% fulfill you is physical death. Gun to your head. I'm not advocating suicide. But what I am saying is "what happens now" is trying to commit suicide without doing it directly. That's your goal, and objective, and you don't realize it. Because you don't realize it, you create heaps of self deception and schemes and plans for ensuring you don't commit suicide. Yet suicide is exactly what you want. That's the game you're playing, trying to commit suicide without committing suicide, whether you think you're awake or not. Anyway, this post will get negative reactions by lots, because I've also seen how hard people hide from the truth. And I just don't want to deal with it. I've got my own issues to deal with after seeing the stuff I saw on that trip, and all I'm interested in doing in sharing other parts of the map as forestluv would describe it. I'm not interested in debating your map. If you're genuinely curious about seeing more then you think you know, I can help you there easily. But I'm not good at helping you debate your own map. Go to the enlightened beings on here for that. Meme at the very top of the original post

The stronger the ego the most dramatic it will be if it gets shuttered. For example a millionaire that loses all of his money is going to commit suicide. This is the best opportunity for him to transcend his ego without hurting the body. Suffering in whatever form is the thing that can push you to transcend the ego. If you are able to suffer your ego is already strong enough. It is not necessary but it will happen anyway in your life so if it happens use it. Find the good in a bad situation.

Insights such as reprogram the mind Also this new insight that you really need to be way past something early on to know how you should really put things into motion. Otherwise there will be a ton of distractions. One way to keep going in the right direction (all of life is going in the right direction) is to keep a goal board and track your progress towards it. If you're doing good or great, continue. And if you're slacking, then look for reasons and eliminate those reasons. ——————————————— Keep a track throughout the day —————————————— Always focus on the inevitable this helps with decision making ——————————————— Always remember that every problem has a solution in reprogramming the mind. ——————————————— Focus on positive people. Focus on serious people. Focus on matured people. ——————————————— Go meta on everything. Use systems thinking ——————————————— Remember you can never change the world so don't even try it. ——————————————— The problem with giving advice is that it ultimately falls on deaf ears when people get to attack that advice. It serves no purpose even if it's the best advice. There is a huge problem with giving advice in an open environment. Because it's not a clean environment. Even your best intentions are misunderstood and twisted and spinned in order to fit their narrative. This is an inherent flaw.. ——————————————— Connect with positive and serious people who display the best intentions. There will be too many jerks online. Just don't play into their game ——————————————— Always remember that principle is more important than company. ——————————————— Build yourself up Build back better Bright Brilliant Beautiful ————————— I have struggled so much and I came so far, even the devil is going to be have some mercy on me. ——————————————— A trap may or may not exist. But learning to be careful is important ————————— You need to be able to give advice in a clean environment. Without all the people jostling ——————————————— I need to do hourly updates ——————————————— All that the devil achieves is distraction from "work" ——————————————— The best couple in my opinion is Barack Obama and Michelle Obama. They intuitively understand each other. ——————————————— You have to be in a proper grounded emotional state or place to be able to work toward your goals in a definitive manner. ——————————————— I need a partner who keeps me grounded. ——————————————— Feminine nature Very trusting very giving Masculine nature - dominant or passive What is feminine attracted to? Dominant masculine Why is feminine attracted to dominant masculine? Because she perceives dominant as protective. She does not see beta or passive as protective. So zero attraction to beta. In masculinity, you can dominant abusive DA, or dominant protective DP... The feminine mostly ends up with DA instead of DP. She has to work very hard to find DP and sometimes she never finds DP. Most alphas = abusive Most betas = insecure. Both alpha and beta use abusive tactics Alpha uses domination and fear. Pure fear. Beta uses gaslighting and guilting and contradicting/ opposing/ hyper critical /violation of boundaries / constantly attacking self esteem/ drama creation /giving emotional stress /unnecessary demands/ emotional blackmail /childish behavior /immature behavior /asking you to prove love/not ready for resolution / playing victim /suicide threats and obsessing and control freak behavior, using insecurities/ jealousy. A woman should be given 2 choices. Either find a healthy male or be single with the ability to survive alone. If you can't find a healthy male then remain single. Whats marriage = brainwashing.. Packaged as tradition and culture. Patriarchy. Prince Charming = brainwashing Romantic movies and novels = brainwashing /fantasy Reality = men have agenda / max benefit Man's stays in the marriage = because of social pressure Men = want more than one woman. Masculine nature. Healthy men = very few Most boyfriends = assholes Solution to female problems Enemies of a female /enemies of the feminine = chemicals, hormones, thoughts, emotions. A woman uses her heart more often than the head. Love = attraction /addiction /drug When the woman breaks the relationship she experiences withdrawal and suffers relapse just like in addiction, she goes back to the abusive boyfriend Her chemicals are very strong. The more feminine a woman, stronger her chemicals. Once she is in a relationship, if it's abusive, very difficult to break chemical bond once formed. These chemicals /hormones /emotions create sticky brain fog. Chemical fog /love fog. Her brain is full of love fog. She won't leave the abusive boyfriend unless the love fog dissolves. Why does a woman not leave? Society will say low self esteem, trauma, unconscious behavior, low self worth or that she is always attracted to assholes etc etc.. These are fringe reasons but not key reason.. She falls in love through manipulation. The key reason why the woman is staying in such a relationship, is because of chemical attraction /chemical bonding or love fog. For removing the love fog, the woman has to be dragged out of the relationship by multiple people including supportive family members and other community people to slowly coax her into leaving the abusive boyfriend. Coaxing should continue during relapse phase also. How to prevent this problem Give women financial Empowerment Give women tools and resources to know what toxic and abusive relationships look like. Awareness about domestic violence and emotional abuse. Give them books, videos, articles, interviews, discussions therapies. Give women emotional support, both family and community. Other tools - Reprogramming the Mind. Coping mechanisms. Survival mechanisms. Healing mechanisms. Defense mechanisms. Examples of Reprogramming the Mind If you're trusting - become skeptical If you are thinking it's good - think it's bad If you believe easily - don't believe easily. Give more time and opportunity and higher threshold to reach the belief point Run a lot of shit tests on the guy. Only if the man agrees and listens 80% of the time, and disagrees 20% of the time, he is good. Also keep a three strike rule. Thrice if he hurt you (minor hurting) and 1 strike rule for major hurt. So if he hurts (minor) thrice and major once then he should be dumped.. Trash bin. Don't simply allow anyone in your life, don't let them in your life if they can't pass the test. Have strict filters. You should have a higher threshold for someone's good behavior to begin to really matter. If you think it will get better - no, it will get worse If he is too sweet - think it's manipulative The issue of female loneliness, lack of family support, dysfunctional family, lack of emotional independence, lack of community support, bullying community lack of family support, dysfunctional family, lack of emotional independence, lack of community support, bullying community = factors that increases loneliness. —————————————— ———————————————

Confronting Death (myself, others) /Suicide has been a recurrent theme in my life. Generally whenever I came too close to death or dying (I've come close to death many times, sometimes I do get anxieties that I might die early, other times I feel good because life is meaningless anyway with so many hardships and little love) I had great revelations Death or dying is not just death. It's a revelation of a deeper truth. For me every opportunity of a truce with death was an opportunity to realize some truth about my life. Often times it was merely an indication that my body fought very hard to just live and that body/mind /heart /soul took in way too much than it was equipped for.

@xxxx Expression is just one action of the causal loop we're all on, although it depends on the flexibility by which one is using that term, indirectly or directly, implicitly or explicitly, if its just meant directly and explicitly then no, the accumulation and storing of wisdom for example runs contrary to sheer explicit and direct expression, but not in an indirect and implicit way, and even if you interpret the storing and accumulation of wisdom as an action, then expression is still an implicit and indirect expression compared to say painting, but explicit and direct unto itself relative to the neural action of accumulating and storing. Another example can be as it pertains to the feeling of an experience, or even the sensing of an experience, these two, of which are examples of being "acted upon", still "act within" and consequentially lead to direct and explicit forms of expression but they too, inside the scope of indirect and implicit expression fall inside the broader framework of expression in the same way as it was described that say a neural action or neural firing does. So if we include indirect and implicit means, I would say yes, but its a very broad way to encapsulate it don't you think? Expression of what exactly? The expression of consciousness potential? We'd need to categorise the various forms of expression together with potential to understand the larger framework of expression and the smaller frames that fit within it in order to separate human expression from say life expression. Because if all life is doing is expressing itself through various ongoing developmental changes overtime, how are we separate to this exactly? What other tools does life have other than expression, if these other tools exist, how do they fit in context with their use for humans outside of expression? Life seems very much a doing. Why are we a lonely species? Are we a lonely planet then too? From one perspective. We could easily switch emotional lenses to something else though. I don't believe selfishness is really a word, its merely describing a pattern within nature from the perspective of someones emotional reference frames in the same way that one might equate the human species as a lonely one; an act within the loop of consciousness; defense, protection, attack, absorb, etc. Felt impressions are quite distinct from life expressions in the context of knowing and describing the action of what something is outside the subjective reference frame. Is a spider selfish for making a web to catch prey? Not really, at least we often don't think so. Is a cross country runner selfish for illegally taking steroids? From the perspective of the other runners absolutely, he's being unfair right, but from the perspective of the spider, he's just spinning his own kind of web to get bugs caught in his net so that he can have his feed, in this case, a medal, trophy, social status and maybe a blowjob from his wife for winning / or a reconsideration of the divorce, could be any number of scenarios you wish to come up with, perhaps his trainer is not his married wife and because he's a numb-skull his winning leads to a sexual opportunity with her which leads to cheating his wife finds out and so she goes through with the divorce. But where was the selfishness here? Selfish to his wife yes, but then maybe the wife wants his money, not selfish to his trainer because she wants the sex. Selfishness then is a subject of interpersonal ethics between the relevant parties. Intelligent fairness determinations are then the result of what terms and conditions were communicated between the parties. We have inherent biological ethics and we have pseudo biological ethics where the latter is a consequence of changing perspectives through a change in the agreed upon narrative between the parties. So from the perspective of the competition, yes he was indeed selfish by their terms, but nature says he's just following his nature, otherwise he never would have done it, the same too for organisations that create said competitions under the assumption that they know its within peoples natures to not only wish to compete, even if only for entertainment, but also to do so under conditions that are fair more than unfair and that people will be harshly mocked and that its within peoples natures to experience the shame of that enough that they would wish to avoid it (though some don't of course). Survival is a funny term that like selfishnes looks blatantly obvious on the surface of things but although survival itself appears to be more relevant to what is happening in peoples actions, has a much richer story than what has so far been discussed in culture. For example, going back to that causal consciousness loop that we're all on, many people commit suicide for many different reasons outside of mere depression and loneliness that it brings into question the nature of the term not just inside the human experience but as a whole in understanding the nature of nature itself in the context of that word. If survival is so fundamental, why on earth would we associate it with the negative connotations that you sometimes see play out, even if this is only emotional? Something tells me this is merely a story about the persons misappropriation of the term and its consequences more than it is something egregious against the term and natural implications. Re-cognitive appraisals are a must in culture. "Oh so its just a survival tendency (meaning "oh its just a blah" as if to be negative)", for me people should look at all forms of survival with the ultimate form of love in light of it being an expression of the true nature of existence at that time. Dissonance is something people struggle most with more than most other aspects of survival. I wouldn't believe anyone in the world that said they "got rid of their emotions and now they're enlightened", because emotions are the fuel that the engine that is the body needs to do literally anything, which includes talking about ones new state of enlightenment. Enlightenment to me is a case of your relationship with your personal existence more than it is a breaking of relationships with various forms of your existence, in this case, ones emotions. The stronger and more stable the relationship has with all aspects of existence, naturally, the more enlightened they're going to be. Emotions wouldn't ever stop. Even in a state of dissociation a person is still experiencing emotions of various kinds, they're just not able to notice them. Lastly, even if emotions are a non-event, what happened to the antecedent of emotions themselves? They're not this isolated thing like a species or a lonely planet in the solar system, like the planet and the human species, they're interconnected with a whole host of other phenomena of course that both contribute to the existence of emotions and emotions contribute to the existence of many other things. So if you extracted emotions, there's no telling just how much would change in the pattern of not just the human species, but the entire planet. I sense that many people have this strange desire to be emotionless, which in the end, only equals motionless. The very drive to be emotionless is an emotion of sorts unto itself.

My younger sister (19) is currently in a relationship with a guy who is 37. I am trying to be open minded and all but I am still a bit concerned about this, especially since I am the only one who knows about their relationship because she doesn't what to tell anyone else from our family (it would be a suicide if she did, lol). As far as a guy is concerned he seems to be nice. He is an english teacher and they share lots of common interests like meditation, yoga, chakras and stuff. I haven't met him in person, but I saw his pictures and he doesn't look like a sociopath serial killer, lol. The only shady thing that I've noticed is that they met on tinder and he lied about his age in his profile and didn't confess for like a month. His excuse was that he was afraid that my sister would leave him and he didn't want that to happen since he liked her so much. P.S. it's not like my opinion would change anything because I trust my sister with the responsibility to handle her relationships herself anyway.

Levels of Consciousness according to David Hawkins (ego death) Enlightenment Peace Joy Love Reason Acceptance Willingness Neutrality Courage Pride Anger Desire Fear Grief Apathy Guilt Shame (suicide active or passive) If you find yourself spiraling down into negativity when your baseline is usually around Willingness, Acceptance and Reason then take a deep breath, let the storm blow over and youll soon find yourself going back up the ladder. Dont give into the lower states of consciousness. Let yourself float back up.

Methadone is very dangerous. It's specifically known for stopping the breathing. And it's often used for suicide. So yeah.. the methadone was the main cause.

Also one thing i don't really understand with Hitler is why did send his troops to Russia (in winter at that) and declare war to the US. This was basically suicide for Germany. If Germany at that time had a leader which was (just a little bit) more sensible they would probably be a lot bigger in terms of landmass and also more powerful and influential now.

I just didn't initially see how your examples were examples of destabilization or something wrong or bad or out of the ordinary. It just seemed like normal parts of the path. Like for example his wife attained mahasamadhi, that's not weird or suicidal, that's just a normal part of the path. Its not bad or wrong or suicidal. I don't see why you're doing the spiritual path unless you're at least open to mahasamadhi (or spiritual suicide as you call it). But I see in the bigger context when we bring normies into it, it can seem super weird and strange. I didn't take that into account and apologise for doing that.

Whatever the technical reasons, Sadhguru almost killed himself (by his own admission) and when he went to doctors they ran tests on him and told him that he should be dead. It took him a long time to recover and heal. By any conventional standard the practices Sadhguru did would be considered suicidal. His own wife committed spiritual suicide for fuck's sake. @electroBeam What are you even arguing about?? You are completely skirting the point. I am merely re-stating what Sadhguru himself has said publicly. If you dispute these claims, take it up with him.