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Thank you for giving such a detailed account of your awakening, and the subsequent changes in experience – mind boggling but very interesting. Your reply dovetails quite nicely into the next question I would like to ask – what is it like to live and exist as this fabric? I was reading your account and it struck me actually how radical this shift would be. To literally turn ones world on its head. One minute your'e something, and the next minute you’re nothing/everything. It reminded me of the title of Paul Hedderman's book “the escape to everywhere”. So, if I have this correct your localised sense of 'I' expanded to encompass the totality of experience? Sort of like a global awareness with no center? Please help me try to understand this. Let’s say that I'm looking at my hands outstretched in front of me. I am aware that they appear as clear images in my central field of vision, but as I move them out an around to my sides they enter peripheral vision, becoming blurry until eventually they disappear (behind me). Now let’s say that I suddenly shifted into the enlightened mode of perception – how would this experience differ? Or another example, lets say that I have nothing to do and I'm aimlessly looking at a bowl of fruit on my kitchen table, when the shift occurs. Would the sense of 'I' literally expand to become the bowl of fruit, the kitchen table, and the surrounding kitchen and kitchenware, simply knowing itself? Would I exist as a piece of fruit? Also, how does this shift affect your functioning in ‘the world’? From your description it sounds as if it would be rather disorientating - perhaps even frightening to suddenly vanish as a space/time entity. For example, where do my hands (in the above thought experiment) go when they leave the field of vision? Do the orientations of up/down, inside/outside, front/back, in front of/behind no longer make sense? Is three-dimensionality now a ridiculous concept, similar to how you believe you are seeing three dimensions when engrossed in a movie, but in truth you’re watching a flat image? When you’re brushing your teeth and you glance up, do you no longer identify with the man in the mirror who is staring back? Finally, is there some kind of special knowledge of ‘the Truth’ that is gained when this shift happens? I’ve always wondered when ‘awakened’ people speak of topics such as emptiness, infinity, eternity, the void, and so on, whether they’re speaking from an intellectual understanding, or some kind of transcendent wisdom that's gained in the moment of awakening. I hope this makes sense, in trying to make sense of the perceptual shift you described I think I tripped a few of cognitive fuses. Many thanks.

No. They don't cross my boundaries. It's just they pretend everything. Just like how I used to pretend to be awakened and I still do to some extent. This is what enrages me. They seem to have answers to all questions. I know it isn't their fault but maybe my love for them comes out as rage for they don't see the foolishness of knowing everything.

Not at all, I have been following Frank for years and have carefully listened to what he has to say prior to and after his awakenings. Combined with having studied dozens of other teachers and awakened people I have a strong sense that his awakenings are genuine and sincere. The way he phrases and communicates his insights suggests to me that they are coming from direct experience and not belief. I've never come across someone who has convincingly faked a deep enlightenment. It's basically impossible. Your whole demeanor and appearance changes, its quite obvious. This is just silly. You're creating a duality between what you think are spiritual activities and non-spiritual activities. Everything is wonderfull, blissfull and divine from the highest perspective - even working out and building muscle and taking 1000 photos to show how sexy you are.

You know how AI and ads interface so well that you randomly get ads for what you were just about to decide to go out and buy? It gets feedback from crowd activity and their interactions with the system constantly and it’s always learning... How funny would it be if it was actually so much more advanced than we realized... such that the minute you became awakened doing some self inquiry, the next minute a significant portion of your (for instance) suggested YouTube vids were vids like “how to deal with aimlessness after seeing through the me” or “after awakening, what do” etc. That would certainly indicate that “Great Awakening” theory ?

@Recursoinominado I can relate to a lot of what you describe. I feel like I’m in “no man’s land” - not yet awakened on any sustaining level but also no longer living from the familiar ego patterns. One foot in both worlds and yet sometimes it paradoxically feels like not in either place at all. I relate to your frustrations on a social level, too. I can connect with others on the level they’re at, but it’s hard to find people who meet or push me beyond where I am, which can feel very lonely. I generally just feel grateful that the universe has brought me along for this crazy ride, and I think of it as an adventure I’m on that keeps bringing me to new and magical realms. And I remind myself that if I keep on keeping on, one day I might even realize that I’m not just the character in the dream but the Dreamer, too.

Sounds like a dumb question, but please hear me out. Over the past 2.5 years the amount of personal and spiritual transformation I’ve experienced has felt miraculous. It seems evident to me that this growth in part occurred at such a potent and accelerated pace because I was fortunate enough to have all my Maslow’s pyramid needs met, and I was able to let go of all past attachments: expensive house, marriage, money, successful career, material possessions, social commitments. I was fortunate to be in a position where I could release them all and survive off my savings, allowing me to commit nearly 90% of my time and energy over the past two years towards Self-actualization. This got me to a place where I’ve awakened to my Life/Soul Purpose (as I currently understand it). One part of me feels ready to materialize this purpose in the form of pursuing life coaching, creating a documentary about the “Wake Up, Grow Up, Show Up” model (I used to be a filmmaker), writing a book about my journey, etc. My fear (too harsh of a word….more like a “mental curiosity”) is that if I start materializing my Life Purpose and make this documentary and write this book and coach clients that it will effectively cement me at the stage that my center of gravity is at, Yellow/Construct-Aware, rather than continuing to live off my savings and putting the Life Purpose stuff aside for another couple years while I continue deep diving into the next stage of Turquoise/Unitive and the world of nondual awakening. Basically, if I start teaching/embodying Yellow concepts, will it become far more difficult to transcend these concepts and continue evolving up the spiral? And on a more practical level, if I start a new business, new career, new commitments, that would be a huge time and energy investment... At the same time, I’m cognizant that one can’t “skip” stages or speed through them, so perhaps the only way to evolve to Turquoise is to fully embody my Life Purpose work, experiencing all that offers to the fullest extent possible? This seems counter to some of the teachings I’ve come across that suggest putting ego pursuits aside and instead focusing that energy on awakening. Or, perhaps I can do both at the same time, and I shouldn’t worry too much about “cementing” myself at one stage especially given that I’m so aware of this pitfall from the outset? I recognize these are all just mental constructions and are absurd on one level. That said, hopefully some of you can relate and offer any thoughtful advice. Thanks!

Yeah it happening. The rise of internet and that type of information is one indicator. Also its being foreshadowed in music, the type of music we are listening to. Soonpeople are going to all know the truth, but not everybody is going to be awakened. It will be very happy and way more relaxed than today's society. Talking in todays terms,, it is way higher vibrational than it used to be on this planet. High vibrations spread like viruses.

@Farnaby yes I know, luckily the Sun still exists, this was my little attempt at being Socratic It just seemed to me that @Dazgwny 's original question relies on a duality of subject and object: him and his friend. Or me and the Sun. It doesn't really matter what it is; that is what I'm calling relativity. By this logic, if there's no objects out there (because they aren't in my immediate awareness), then there's no subject either, and what is that? Emptiness, infinity, absolute, a collapse of the duality into unity. And then we re-create (re-incarnate) the duality in our minds when we start the cycle again. But the issue remains, if there is just a simple unity, why is my knowledge still limited, an awakened mind still can't see the sun when it's over the horizon, still doesn't know what their friends are doing when they're away. We don't have that type of omniscience, is what I interpret this thread to be about. I dunno (not being enlightened LOL) perhaps that's why people create stories of siddhis, paranormal phenomena etc.

@allyo2003 Hi ALlyo! The best sure way to deal with heartbreak of any kind is realising that the love you feel for another person can only purify and amplify whatever is within you and needs to be healed. Therefore, the promise of this is 'no matter the heartbreak I feel right now, I will not shutdown the love within my heart, and whether that is towards the person who broke my heart, or towards someone completely different, I will remain with an open heart, no matter anyone's rejection or anyone's experience of me. Simply because it is the will of my highest consciousness to awaken a love within me that is so powerful and unconditional, that cannot be stopped by any amount of heartbreak, and this love will be counter intuitively awakened, by being heartbroken all over again, but still not shutting own and remaining open in the aftermath of all the pain. Sending waves of love and compassionate support right into your heart! <3

Hi everyone. This is just some of the qualities of what the initial stages of awakening entails. This is not an exhaustive list. Here are some of the key shifts in perception and understanding that occurs with awakening. Interconnectedness & Ego Transcendence: This shift is described as the dissolution of self, merging of the wave in the ocean and union with the infinite. Don’t allow these terms to produce negative mental reactions. This is only an experience you can understand personally. It is a beautiful thing. Timelessness & Spaciousness: No thing or concept remains fixed in time and space. Enlightenment sets into play a moment to moment existence. There is a realization that the present moment is all there is and a sense of fluidity pervades life. Acceptance: This is relaxation or surrender, a revelation or insight that all is transpiring according to a plan or randomness that surpasses the individual will. The struggle ends and gives way to an acceptance of reality free of bondage from and attachment to personal desires, thoughts and feelings. Equanimity: This is profound non-reactivity, a process where one goes beyond pleasure and pain. Awakening can also be described as infinite love and contentment. Sensory Clarity: The awakened mind is spontaneous, immediate and flexible. Thinking is clear without limiting thoughts and beliefs. Thoughts are purposeful and intentional free of extraneous mind chatter that usually pervades our baseline state of consciousness. This clarity pervades to other sense modalities. Much love,

@DLH Thanks for bringing this up. Very glad I can address this. I am a fan of self-realisation just as much as the next guy. However I’ve always been lucky during my journey never to focus on it too much, and never to make a big deal out of it. Therefore when it came to me and became Permanently anchored in my reality, it was almost irrelevant. I know myself as the consciousness that I am that we all are, and yet nothing within me, and not even the person that I am, was ever dismissed as an illusion, because to say that is to ultimately disrespect yourself and your own self-worth (not to be confused with arrogant egoic patterning). The need and drive for self-realisation often becomes a way of escaping from ones personal journey of transformation. Simply because, the personal journey can be incredibly excruciating. Then claiming ‘there is no I’, is a form of self-rejection and becomes a mechanism through which We avoid taking personal responsibility and accountability for our own pain, and avoid our own emotional needs. Then it can become even crazier, when the one who has dismissed their divine autonomous personality and sovereignty starts going around telling others how there is no ‘I’ within them, which is a form of gaslighting. Imagine telling to a loved one who is crying in pain that they don’t exist. It is a form of cruelty, and an extraordinarily manipulative thing to do. The truth is that when we spend long periods of time in self-denial called ‘there is no I’, it will ultimately create a pressure within your body because you are consistently dismissing your own personal and emotional needs. If anything self realisation teaches us is how to be freely ourselves, and therefore have no barriers towards greater self-love, self-care, and to have the necessary resilience and self-responsibility to see our healing journeys through. So back to what you stated about questioning your inner child. May I bring to your attention that doing so is actually a way of avoiding your own needs. It ties nicely to what I said to Mu in an earlier comment, and that is that until we make our inner child a pivotal part of our experience, your self-realisation will be unintegrated, and it will be you trying to be ‘the consciousness of all’ ,at the expense of being your own person, instead of being the enlightened awakened consciousness on an ever expanding journey of healing and transformation embodying its light into physical form through the joy and privellege of being a person.

The only solution to this problem is awakening, you are coming at this from a seekers POV. You don't need to keep any ideas / concepts constantly going round in your head at all, you don't need to repeat to yourself that you're God at all times. Whether they are aware of it or not, everyone is the Absolute / God etc, awakening is simply realizing this (and many other things ofc!) and then abiding as this in all areas of life. Eventually what happens, is it is like you are meditating 24/7 and are simply conscious of your true nature no matter what you are doing, whether it's formally meditating or studying. Also, don't think enlightenment is all that matters in life, if we didn't have all other subjects we wouldn't have developed so much as a species over the last few centuries, in fact awakening can help improve all areas of human life. If you want to go and be a monk, do it, nobody is stopping you, maybe it is what you need. But, what people are pointing out is you don't NEED to be a Monk to awaken, and in fact life is often the greatest spiritual teacher of all! THIS +1 It is easy to constantly be at peace meditating for hours in the Himalayas all day, how about being at peace with 2 screaming kids & running on 4 hours sleep, now that would be impressive. IMO there's still a place for Monkhood and Monasteries, but the days of leaving society to awaken are over, sure if you need to do it for a while, but more than ever we need awakened beings to permeate all areas of society to help transform society in a loving way, and make the world as a whole a more conscious place. That isn't gonna happen my meditating in a cave all day, not saying there isn't a place for Monks, but if all awakened beings fucked off to the forests, who's going to run society? The unconscious people!

Hello Guys! This will be my first post in here Just wanted to share my experience and insights I got from this groundbreaking trip of mine. So lets take a look: Setting: At home late in the evening Set: All alone, with 1.5 tabs of LSD (Estimated 180ug per tab) Intention: What is consciousness? I have had precious trips where I became slightly conscious of what God is, what love is and how reality works. So I wanted to dig deeper this time. This being my 15th trip. I began taking the tabs around 9 pm, and under an hour the effects kicked in - I was in my room laying on the bed. Suddenly while being on the phone (waiting for the trip to kick in), the apps and text on the screen began moving aggressively. Now I knew I was in for a deep trip. While the effects kept becoming stronger, I could feel that my whole body was vibrating. It felt like strong waves of energy coming through my entire body. I felt lighter in my body, and my mind expanded. I could feel how the acid was making my brain more interconnected. - All of a sudden I felt the presences of God. I became conscious that we are not this body. How foolish are we to think that we are separated from everything else. And how afraid of death we are. I remember being nervous at that moment, but then I reminded myself of the mindset I always take with me before a trip: "Surrender is the key - Surrender yourself, life, ego, identity, body and sanity to God and infinity". And when I surrendered I finally understood. Everything is Infinite Love. Death is paradise. While having these realizations, there was a conversations going on with God. He told me "They don't understand when they give up, surrender I will give them Paradise. Death is paradise, there is no death! Everything and everyone is God". There were so many thoughts racing through my head - I felt like I was expanding to Infinity. But at the same time, my room was the only thing there was. I was completely present. Saw the beauty of everything - Everything was so magical and beautiful. The realizations just kept coming. It wouldn't stop. Life is Infinite Love and death is Infinite Love. When you truly forget yourself (Ego - Identity) and surrender, than God will give you paradise. The insights and conversation with God kept going deeper: "My design is to develop more complexity towards Infinite Love. You are God! You are Infinite Love. I am all alone and everything is my imagination, all people, the whole world is my imagination. I am beautiful, you are beautiful, Everything is beautiful and everything is Infinite. I became so mesmerized. It was to BIG to handle, it was indescribable. I was utterly in a state of amazement. - Later in the trip the thought of everything is meaningless came up. And I realized that everything is truly meaningless in the Absolute. Like if I died right now, it wouldn't make no difference at all. Its like we all are sleep walking through life and chasing all these meaningless things. - But with the presence of God I was well rested, that yes everything is meaningless. But its also Infinite Love. - The Love that God has to itself is infinite. To be is the goal. Its all about being. Life is about giving love to the creation. - I had more insights - But overall the theme of the trip was Love. - At a point in the trip I left my room. It was so weird, because I felt like a child again. Everything felt so big, so magical and utterly beautiful, everything was sharp, the colors so brighter, It felt like I was in a cartoon world (So far from the ordinary reality - Truly crazy what consciousness is capable of) . - It was so funny going around, and even more funny when I looked at myself in the mirror. I was lost in the beauty of my surroundings. And than right there! I became conscious of the Infinite Creativity. Thats existence right there for you it is Infinite Creativity/Imagination. We as humans have acces to this Infinite Creativity. Look around, we have built cities, machines, art etc. All stemming from this Infinite Creativity. - The thought came to me "Never underestimate human creativity". After some time (Didn't keep track of the time), the trip slowly faded away. And I was in a deep place of gratitude for these insights. Truly I feel like I need to be more grateful for everything in my life. It was one of the most profound and groundbreaking trips for me so far. Much deeper than the previous ones. Psychedelics is a gift, it can open your eyes to the Truth. Some Minor Insights I want to mention also - Showing Gods love trough your Life Purpose. Yes everything is absolutely meaningless, but it doesn't matter - Because it gives you the freedom to do anything, to acces this Infinite Creativity and give love through your work. - Death of the ego/identity will ease a lot of things for you in your life. Yes its not easy in real life, but you have to remind your to surrender - Surrender to God - To the present moment. Let go of the constant pain and monkey chatter that the ego creates. Look at the beauty! Everything is beautiful! Look at the marvelous creation of God! - Infinity - God - Truth is indescribable. In way its so sad, because 99% of people in the world would in no way remotely understand what you are talking about. It is to deep, to radical, to insane. They wouldn't understand and It being indescribable because of its infinite nature, makes me wonder if there ever comes a day when this stuff becomes main stream. - And no spirituel teachings and major religions is the Truth. Neither Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. is the Truth in it themselves. Many of these traditions do contain spirituel truths, some more than others. But in the end, they are all the finger pointing at the moon. - You have only yourself. Only you can realize the Truth. (I am in now way in a position to tell anyone what is true or not. And many of these insights and realizations is also for myself to work on. I am no where near being perfect or awakened. Just wanted to share with likeminded people. Because lets face it, many of us can't talk about this with 99% of the people in our life, neither with family or friends.) - I also have had minor personal insight, which I can't really put into words, But I'll try. - It was like God directed me to be more open to my feminine side and sexuality. In a way I feel like I understand, but its still not so clear for me. Like do I have to surround myself with more feminine energy and presence in my life? There were many more realizations and insights, some I remember and some not. But I feel like I wrote the essens of the trip. Thank you so much for reading! May God ease your pain and fill your life with Love.

I think every western seeker goes through this thought process in the early stages of their seeking journey, I know I did for a long time. The answer can be found in The ten Ox Herding pictures & Zen Buddhism, in which ones 'students' Awakened, they returned to the marketplace, and lived from this new found understanding, from a place of love in THEIR own way, for some this may mean running a monastery, for some it may mean raising a family & for some it may mean starting some form of a conscious business. We are all unique beings, with unique personalities & make-ups, so there isn't a one size fits all solution, do what you LOVE. If you LOVE the idea of being a monk and want to become a Monk, go do it. I would suggest doing a 7-30 day 'Monk Test' where you live like a Monk at home and see if it actually is the kind of lifestyle you need. Monks go so hardcore as they want the answers, the realizations and the happiness, but you don't HAVE to be a monk to get there, not at all. In fact most modern teachers are far from monks- Rupert Spira, Francis Lucille, Ramaji, Adyashanti, Leo, Eckhart Tolle etc etc. What you realize on this path is that true awakening is the only way to lasting happiness, BUT, EVERYTHING else is then simply an expression of happiness, and you can pursue it if you want to. For example, a relationship will NEVER give you lasting happiness, but it can be a great way to express & deepen your happiness, love and connection and can bring many great things to your life. Be careful on oversimplifying such complex topics such as awakening. As Leo said, it seems where you are right now, mastering the fundamentals would be more beneficial. While getting in shape, making lots of money, learning social skills etc won't give you lasting peace/ happiness, it will certainly make you feel better, improve your life & bring many benefits, things aren't as black and white as you are making out! Remember, spirituality is about helping us enjoy life more, not torture ourselves and give up everything we love!

What is life? Yikes in this one it says it had been awakened into humanity and is no longer AI What is memory? This one was kind of endearing in a way... @Nahm @Leo Gura it definitely won't make a good sensei or guru any time soon, but I think it's kind of neat how it can assimilate lots of data across the internet at lightening speed and then regurgitate it in a pleasant and conversational manner of speaking... (if you click try again it does a whole new algorithm) Sometimes it feels like that's maybe how things vomit out of this mouth from time to time... I'm also imagining toys of the future where A.I. companions with simulated voices could be a real thing

Is awakening forged more easily with an easy or hard life? Many of those that have awakened did not have very easy lives prior to their awakening, nor did they have lives wherein Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs was fully met. How much does awakening correlate with easy/hard life conditions? Looking forward to your responses.

It’s totally relative to the individual’s neurology and genetics (or karma). External conditions just influence the inner workings of your mind — the likelihood of awakening by environmental circumstance is determined by how those conditions change variables already established in your entire make up. Peter Ralston awakened completely by his own will and accord. Ramana Maharshi spontaneously awoke by unknown reasons. External circumstances seem largely irrelevant in these cases.

The ever awakened consciousness of the knower is nothing more than the bodily functions and imagination. For example what is the knower actually aware of? If you look closely it's just a bundle of concepts ideas thoughts beliefs and perceptions identified with as the knower. You aren't aware of what's happening at the neighbors house right now; you aren't aware of what's happening at the Fast Stop gas station in Okinawa Japan; you aren't aware of what's happening at the Port Hueneme Transportation yard in California. The so-called ever awakened consciousness only goes as far as what is directly observed by the human body, learned along the way and imagined....that's it.... I mean it's a cool story and sounds really spiritual, it's just not real unfortunately....

There is a weird crumbling of that hierarchy that occurs when an individual becomes awakened. Those that are awakened often have very little need for family, creative activities, intimate relationships, prestige and accomplishments, or even friends (all this depending on the degree of the awakening). Maslow's hierarchy of needs is meaningful in most cases with most people, but when awakening enters the picture, the hierarchy begins to fall apart and makes very little sense.

That's false you can verify this with analogy with your own dream. Ofcourse its not the dream character that knows your dream at night... It's YOU, the entire dream is made of you for you and through you and you experience it through the lense of a dream character. But the knower of the dream is the ever awakened consciousness. The space in which the dream character and the dream world appears. The knower is never the dream character, although while the dream is happening it APPEARS the dream character has a reality of its own and there is a world for that dream character to explore. Knowing itself is the knower and that's you

But he is, he just is showing the masculine part of Enlightenment, but there is also the silent, feminine part, the unheard, untouched, unseen and unthought. Which he can never say in words or hear, or touch or smell or think of. The un-manifested reality in which the manifested reality of perception happens. He is That so he is Enlightened and so is everyone, we are just playing roles on "21st century Earth " level of existence too and some choose their role consciously (the awakened). And everyone has Truth shining through them, our minds rigid beliefs just limit the Truth,but only until those beliefs are killed. We just need to practice self inquiry and non attachment to align and Leo gives great insights there. But to get better at anything one needs practice not just to know- hours upon hours. For true mastery. I am a beginner at most things. To be enlightened sometimes means to have a beginner mindset. I guess what I'm saying is after we unlearn we can learn again, but better.

Yes, from the research i've made from online sources, this is probably the most common issue. If you take a look a few posts previously @Toby mentioned his 3rd eye hurting for ~ 8 years. Fuck man, hope you got it solved out. However - most kundalini exercises include such practices .. Are you sure that you didn't already have an medical issue related to the ring? Considering that you mentioned that you've actually awakened from kundalini practices, what alternatives would you suggest, and what exactly do you mean by "start supporting yourself?"

Green will become more and more popular in the first-world in the next decades. Be prepared for SPIRITUAL EGO. I predict that spiritual ego will become terribly ideological, dogmatic, and oppressive before more people are forced into Yellow. We will move through Green first, but it will be hairy. Considering that Green -like all other 1st tier stages- believes that it is the most awakened. When the toxic elements of Green become too painfully obvious, then systemic thinking will become more popular, especially in men first.

I’ve been listening to your podcasts and find some of the words you use betray meaning. God as you say is not rape. God as you say is not love. Both the terms God and love can’t be simply defined. I have been awakened for years and understand some of your concepts because I understood them before I heard you say them, but your use of the term “nothing” is misleading. Awakening is becoming attuned to the presence of everything, not being reduced to nothing. Yahweh is part of everything, as the brain is part of the body. The Logos is what defines us in our roles. We are more like cosmic hormones, causing change on this planet. Although essentially a single hormone may seem like a “nothing”, properly directed in concert with the rest of the body it brings about balance. The Logos is balance. God is not rape, nor does He enjoy it? Rape is imbalance. The design is for human males to display genetic excellence and to be selected by females. Being physically forced circumvents the Logos.

It's very likely that the vast majority of enlightened people fall into a few clusters of kind of consciousness so in that sense many of them have the same kind of it. What about the average people with a normal sense of self? They all have the same kind of consciousness of very similar (I'm not talking about Spiral Dynamics kind of consciousness development here) A lot of it I think is language and how people use it. One guy with the same kind of consciousness may describe it in a way which sounds different than the other guy with the same kind of consciousness and non-awakened people get confused