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On one hand you have the belief that you are alive and that people die and you'll die. On the other hand is Nonduality, where all there is is consciousness. Everything exists in consciousness, including time, space, matter, energy, your life, everyone's lives, all of reality, and you and your experiences, all exists within consciousness. The real you is the eternal consciousness. So everything you think you've ever learned from other people, is just you creating that info for yourself. But made yourself forget that you were creating it. This includes everything you've ever heard about this concept of 'death'. So death is just a made up concept. You, consciousness, the creator of literally everything, can not die, as you, consciousness, is all there is and is infinite, therefore cannot end. No beginning and no end, no past and no future.

I'd appreciate any input on this. So there's 2 worldviews going on in my head. Yes, I know they are both a waste of time and ultimately illusory, but I have to know. Each worldview leads to radically different and practical implications. The first is probably what most people visualize with nonduality. We are all the same, but each ego has a different and valid perspective. The second worldview that I can't seem to shake is that my perspective might be the only one that exists. That every person I've ever seen is literally a projection of my own mind. That every conversation I've ever had is only with myself, that for example I imagined an argument even though it didn't need to happen. That no one else actually has original thoughts, they are just my own thoughts in a separate "compartment" of my own mind, so I'm not conscious of it. Ok, those are the two views. Now, you might be thinking these might be the same... Perhaps they are. But there seems to be a fundamental difference between them, with huge implications in my relationship to the world. Probably my mental health too. I just want the Truth. But of course, this presents a catch-22. If the second worldview is correct, then I'm literally just asking myself. So, while I can't trust anyone's answer, I'm perhaps looking for other perspectives that I might be missing, so I can triangulate on the truth here. Nonduality is pointing to one of these 2 outlooks. And please don't tell me I'm wasting time fantasizing, if you were conscious of me, then you'd know that wouldn't be a proper response.

No one truly can lose sight of the real Self. Yet seekers are instructed to withdraw attention from objects. That's the seeker's paradox: to seek, knowing that what is sought is already the case. What I'm talking about is not a samadhi. What I'm talking about is simply the case at all times. This focus on a 'return to conscious life' and 'individuation' shows an incomplete understanding and/or the pull of old mental tendencies (it comes to the same thing). There was never a conscious life to begin with, nor an individual. This is the deepest secret of nonduality, and you will find this truth in certain enigmatic statements at the heart of nondual texts. "What all beings consider as day is the night of ignorance for the wise, and what all creatures see as night is the day for the introspective sage." -Gita 2:69 “ 'Since the experiences of seeing [hearing, tasting and so on] are, when experienced, the same for the liberated [as for others], and since they [the liberated] are thus experiencing the many differences which appear as a result of seeing [hearing and so on], they are experiencing non-difference [even while seeing those differences]' – to say so is wrong. The liberated one is seen as if He is also seeing the many [different] forms only in the deluded outlook of onlookers who see the many differences; but [in fact] He is not the seer [or anything at all]." -Ramana Maharshi, Guru Vachaka Kovai

@Leo Gura I just watched your newest blog post on infinite Love being the cause for everything, and wow I really connected with it this time! It's crystal clear to me. I even watched the video link below that (about corrupt Russian government), and it hit me that all of it was explained with Love. Vladimir Putin ordered those guards to murder that lawyer out of Love, and Bill Browder went after corruption because of Love for his lawyer friend. Ta-Da! In order to distill and purify your teachings, I think you should consider inserting quotes throughout your videos that get to the heart of each topic. What made your Aztec nonduality video so practical and powerful were the condensed quotes spread throughout. The right quote promotes further contemplation, especially if it is so simple it can't be ignored. Something like, "Love is the catalyst for every action in the universe." Think of how profound that is! You could then talk about this point for as long as you usually do, but I feel it would make your teachings better if you opened every new "section" of your talks with a quote of this nature. Thanks Leo!

I thought about this a bit and came to understand that rebirth/reincarnation doesn't really make sense because you were never born to begin with. Nonduality states there is no individual you/ego, so there cannot be a being that is reborn. The real question that should be asked is if Consciousness will continue to create and identify as form after the ending of this particular form as a body and world.

I’ll speak as far as my experience goes on this: I 100% agree. I think @winterknight put it well with trying to have the duality and nonduality. But of course, in truth, and for me, still in theory, thats false. For me it’s been a big thing that’s going to take more emotional work to really unglue myself from those needs and desires. Even if you’re doing spiritual work, it’s the ideas of wanting to be some superhuman god-like person that has siddhis, a powerful life purpose, emotional mastery, interpersonal mastery, and enlightenment and what it really is is treating this endeavor as a commodity or a deeper unconscious desire for wanting to be special, or both. I do think going beyond the human brings up natural concerns. Like what about my life purpose? What about what impact I want to have? Will enlightenment devalue and undercut a helpful service I have on a world that still doesn’t exist? Do I work in the world a lot first and then get enlightened so I have something to offer after my enlightenment? For me these are valid concerns and questions that I think we’re just not honest with ourselves and others who are into this stuff. Also of course we’re afraid of the possible Truth to those questions.

As winterknight said, trying to bring Truth down in the world is another project of the spiritual ego. There is a notion of 'intregation' in advaita vedanta. But its NOT how that word gets often thrown around. It's not a non-existent 'Natasha' that now has to intregate various aspects of Truth and by doing all that, 'Natasha' will grow more enlightened, more functional, more holy, see more oneness/harmony etc over time. Thats a caricature of 'intregation'. The nonduality teacher Fred Davis explains it well. Its not 'Natasha' integrating Truth but rather it is Truth which erases ''Natasha-ness" and the patterns associated with it over time. This idea is also heavily propounded in Adi Shankara's Vivekchudamani. Sell-realization is not a mere project one can somehow get over and move onto the next project. Shankara says after self-realization, any idea other than constant abidance and attachment to Self is delusion and needs to be rooted out. That is intregation. But unfortunately, this message can easily be misunderstood and then label nonduality as anti-human. Thats why it requires tremendous maturity and self-groundedness to stomach this stuff.

I agree. Nonduality vs. Duality is the final Duality to be collapsed

@Apparation of Jack Yes they did, I wasn't expecting any spiritual insights from his book but his story was a great illustration of the law of attraction and at the time I didn't believe in siddhis but it opened my mind to them. The Masonic organizations were a place where people learned about nonduality, mostly they were open only for men though. My intuition is that they have since watered down some of the teachings or people generally don't go as far with them as they did back then but that's just a guess from an outsider's point of view. Life is much more comfortable today, people went to clairvoyant doctors back then because modern medicine was completely insane. We rely on science and technology today, back then faith in a mysterious higher power was all the hope you had. We just have different challenges to realization than they had back then.

Nonduality, and duality.

@RendHeaven Well ya but you already covered that so well, and the op does say ‘different spectacles’, and with this... ...I was aiming prior to the bifocals, for the perception prior even to the relationship lens altogether, the ‘relationship’ with the self. There seemed to be so much waffling for so long, I didn’t think saying of course leave was the ‘different spectacle’ that the op felt would help. I hear ya though, and thank you. I just don’t experience relationships as duality and self / love as nonduality. I see everything permeated with love, and it makes sense. I do believe one will choose suffering with someone over having no one, only from a misunderstood idea of self. I also believe the heart is leading the show wether the mind knows it or not, and that it’s better to know it. We’ll see I guess, maybe they’ll think it’s neet. Maybe not.

@zeroISinfinity I’m including your perspective in mine. Like how God includes all selves within itself. Nonduality unites Dualities

Too much nonduality war going on here. Gotta lock it.

@Aakash Please enlighten me. You are conscious that you are God, that All is One. Now what? You just live bro, try to be the best version of yourself and all that. Do you think I'm in non-duality 24/7 permanently? No. I wish. But I am conscious of God and total Oneness. I still have to live in duality and experience it. That's how God willed it. But I know that duality itself is part of nonduality. It's all One, all God, just in different ways etc.

Discussions of nonduality are fine. It can be communicated kindly without personal identification, attachment and personal conflict (Tier2 yellow and turquoise). Lead by example.

Many people, including myself, have critiqued "little Conrad." I only meant well for him in this comment, but I got warning points from cetus56 threatening to ban me for "nonduality wars." I suggest you be careful, @Aakash. No, that is little Aakash. You are just telling yourself that it is Big Aakash. Be REALLY CAREFUL. You sorely underestimate the devil. It's obvious from how much you post. I don't want to make this into a finger pointing game so let me just say that I sincerely mean the best for you. Please do take into account what I'm saying. Don't dismiss this just because I'm slightly confrontational. Don't defend yourself in a follow up post, either. Breathe and live. We both have lots to contemplate.

@Truth Addict Good stuff. Nonduality includes duality after all. Leo is just showing us the other end of the paradox we weren't aware of

Not from what I can tell. Free will is existent as the Will of God. God's highest Will is total freedom for you. God gives you just enough rope that you can awaken yourself or hang yourself. Not coincidences but divine Intelligence permeates and structures all of Creation. Yet this is not destiny. Divine Intelligence balances between autonomy and communion, creating an infinite holoarchy of holons which culminate in an infinite fractal of Absolute Goodness and Love. God's plan is to give its offspring a taste of the joys of being a creator. God is sharing itself with itself, the result of which is your human form and ability to make decisions for your life. Good point. I don't get that at all. Odd how different it is for people. I just get total nonduality and extreme visionary powers. I get the infinite vision of God. A vision powerful enough to spawn entire galaxies into existence. Keep practicing that. Gold lies in them thar hills! Remember, dog is God spelled backwards

You feel disconnected. It's your fault you're disconnected, because there's no you. What the fuck? Where is the love in that? There's something, He says. And if you don't believe me here's a tree loaded with fruit and you never made a choice to eat from it, and halfway through picking off the fruits and eating them you realize what you've done. Nothing is inherent in something. In other words, nothing is none of your fucking business. The more you try to grasp something the more you come to know nothing. I hate this rural cut off from all opportunity area, what kind of idiotic ambitionless person wants to live here? I hate cities worse. I hate people and I detest their ambitions. It's a love/hate relationship, and I'd rather not deal with it at all. My lonely life is a consolation prize. At least the percentage of nature to utter bullshit is much more favorable in the middle of nowhere. We have designed towns, cities and communities based on a sense of separateness and a worship of materialism. We've turned paradise into a concrete jungle of hell. Where is the grace? Whatever happened to consent God, I didn't fucking ask to be born, to be born here, to be born me, and you say I did. You say I'm you and if I accept that I have no one left to blame. What impossible, maddening situation is this? You created someone to answer to, you created duality out of nonduality, now answer me God, where is the grace, where is the love? There IS something. There IS an I. Settle up you lying piece of shit.

@Truth Addict Nonduality and duality paradoxically both exist. You last sentence is evidence of ideological aversions and attachments. Let it go and let it be.

You guys are so misunderstanding nonduality. You're literally repeating the same mistake that religious people have made, taking the teachings literally. I can't blame you, that's the psychedelic version of the truth. (I DON'T MEAN THE OP)

The reason is that what you are, once the false ideas are removed, is perfect peace, truth, and freedom. Isn't that the case when you're reading a novel? Do the characters in the book actually exist, or are they really just words? If you really want to understand, you might consider putting some serious time into studying the schools of eastern mysticism. Read my book or other recommended books on nonduality and get back to me. "Nonduality" -- which is what this forum is all about, what the schools of mysticism all around the world are about, certainly what I'm teaching -- holds that the very idea of humans, animals, thinking, the world -- all of this is a kind of illusion. It's an illusion that causes pain and suffering and uncertainty. This illusion can be penetrated if you look very carefully into the mind. If you really want, you can learn about the philosophical arguments for why this might be so, or you can simply take the world of the many people over thousands of years who have experienced this and then talked about it. As far as why thoughts are our "default action" -- it turns out, after you look very closely, that that is in fact not the case. Basically, you're living in a giant misunderstanding.

Do you notice that you are creating a duality between nonduality and duality? Nonduality includes duality. Paradoxical.

you said no self is reality but nonduality/mahasamadhi arent. Is that because they are names for a particular idea whereas no self is just the absence of the viel self gives to everything it sees? @moon777light See this Bill Nye style...Light a match or a lighter next to a wall. Look at the wall, and tell me what’s missing. Now look at your hand - what’s missing? Then, contemplate... who is contemplating? What then, is, “contemplation”? (If this sounds ridiculous, go through all of the siddhis, until samadhi, and discard them all in non-attachment, non-identification) I’d recommend the four noble truths, and the eightfold path. 5 or so miles into a run, notice the true effortlessness, notice there’s no you doing a damn thing, was always the case. Sing, Alone, no one is there. Lose the self in the one pointed concentration of playing an instrument. Many more of course, every way is no way.

you said no self is reality but nonduality/mahasamadhi arent. Is that because they are names for a particular idea whereas no self is just the absence of the viel self gives to everything it sees? im not sure, but differently than i do No self does not equal god self? i thought they were the same