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@Leo Gura What do you think Leo? Is it something like this or is it like just fading away into absolute nothingness?

A Dialogue with Mother Earth June 21st, 2018. "................" Me: What can you tell me about Dimension Densities? Gaia: Everything. What do you want to know? Me: In which dimension do you reside? Gaia: 7th. Me: How many dimensions are there? Gaia: From a higher perspective, an infinite number. From your perspective, 13 are known. Me: In which do I reside? Gaia: The 3rd, of course. Me: Right Silence. Me: How do I progress this "Dimensional Ladder" so to speak? what do I do? Gaia: You don't DO anything. You BE. Me: I'm already BEING. What am I being? Gaia: That which you choose. Me: I though Free Will does not exist... Gaia: Choice and free will are not the same thing. Me: They aren't? Gaia: No. Me: Well, what's the difference? Gaia: Will comes from The Inward. Think of the Do Nothing Technique you started practicing last week. Me: Okay... Gaia: The desicion to have that burger just came into your mind, right? Me: Yes. Gaia: From where to you suppose that thought mysteriously appeared in your consciousness? Me: Nothingness. The Eternal Something. So, in other words, a thought, an introspective report, cannot be wrong, since you thought it. It appeared mysteriously, as you said in my consciousness. Therefore there is always truth no matter where you go. Gaia: Precisely! "..............."

"I wouldn't say a distinction is purely mind created.. It is definitely inherent in things themselves. For example you don't project or imagine the difference between a hot and a cold drink. You can actually feel the difference between the two." In this example the difference is in the feeling after the drink has interacted with your body and created a reaction. Does the difference exist before the interaction? Maybe it's like Schrodinger's cat, just a possibility not an actual thing. "However the distinction between somethingness and nothingness seems unclear to me. Also distinction between real and imaginary seems like a mental projection (thinking of dreams as an example)." Me too, what's it like when the mental projecting takes a rest and the distinction collapses? If it really doesn't matter whether This is real or imaginary, like when there's no survival threat to you, it's great, you can let go and be free.

I wouldn't say a distinction is purely mind created.. It is definitely inherent in things themselves. For example you don't project or imagine the difference between a hot and a cold drink. You can actually feel the difference between the two. However the distinction between somethingness and nothingness seems unclear to me. Also distinction between real and imaginary seems like a mental projection (thinking of dreams as an example).

Sure But don't forget, murder can also be a stepping stone to Infinite Love. Everything is a stepping stone in its own way. It's not about comparing me to anyone. It's about guiding you to the deepest consciousness possible. You will not reach the deepest consciousness using their weak sauce. I'm very serious about this. I don't give a rats ass about being better than those people. What I care about is you getting stuck at some nothingness or no-self state. Nonduality is not full God-realization. All paths do not lead to the same place. There exists a place of Infinite Consciousness. If you dare, I will meet you there.

@Holygrail nothingness is not an experience. Its what you are.

Thank you, Sir, for devoting some of your precious time to read and even comment on my post. That others had attained Ein Sof is news to me. I will continue my research through Zen satori and Buddhist cessation. My understanding of Nothingness is very basic. Thank you for enlightening me, it is not taken for granted. Good day, Sir.

I’m so glad you said I didn’t answer it. That allows ‘going deeper’. Water is not analogous to nothingness in that analogy. Water does not know the thought, ‘why’, nor would water expect a thought to answer the thought, ‘why’, because water realizes it is water, already. Water is formless & eternal. Water does not have a ‘why’, only ‘what’ water is, or, it’s true nature of wetness. Water does not expect a ‘why’ answer as to water being wet, water is water, that is “why” it is wet. Water is not the idea of water. Water is water. Water can not appear as something it is not. Ice... is... water. If I could type here, a why, and that was all there was to it... brother, believe me, I’d type it. But I cannot. Water doesn’t work that way. So I make my self available, 24/7, and it usually takes an hour - two hours to get wet. We all have hardships and challenges in our lives, but have you ever actually considered how difficult it would be to be overwhelmed with love, joy, and laughter, yet not even smile?

Yes you basically reformed my question but didn't answer it. I'm guessing water is analogous to nothingness. And ice is something. So nothing appears as stuff. My question is why or how If you will. How does nothing appear as stuff. If it truly is nothing.. Where does the" stuffness "quality come from? How do you appear as something you are actually not?

@Rohit Kuna here’s what I wrote in my notes about it Solving the mind-body problem by understanding dreams When you go to sleep at night, you often find yourself in dreams. In these dreams, most people will still have a human body. In waking reality, there is an unsubstantiated claim or story given by people that consciousness is somehow generated by the brain. The experts aren’t so sure, or at least they don’t have any solid evidence. Look up the “hard problem of consciousness” to understand how this is unsubstantiated. In the dream, you typically do not think along the same lines. If you were to lucid dream, you would certainly not think you were the dream body or somehow generated by the brain in your dream head. I say you, but I need to clarify exactly who you are. You are consciousness. Consciousness is the only constant you can find in all realities. In the dream, you are literally everything perceived in the dream. It’s all generated by your consciousness. We understand fully that everything created in our dreams comes entirely from us and is an extension of us. Surprisingly enough, there’s no solid argument against this being exactly the same case in waking reality. Your brain, body, and mind are all generated by consciousness in the same fashion consciousness generates the entire reality in dreams. Beyond your mind, body, and brain, you as consciousness generate this entire reality. This entire reality IS consciousness and nothing else. It’s the same way in a dream; nothing is separate from you as consciousness. You as consciousness are the sole source for everything in the dream. No one thinks everyone in their dreams are conscious, separate entities once they’ve come back to the waking state. It’s the same in this reality. There’s absolutely no way you can actually be shown something outside of your consciousness. There will never ever be proof that other beings are conscious separately or outside of your consciousness. Even if you merged consciousness with another being in the waking state as a way to somehow prove the existence of another consciousness, guess what it would be? It would be fully engulfed in exactly one thing: you as consciousness or otherwise put your consciousness. You are the source of everything that exists in your consciousness, and your consciousness is the entirety of your universe and always will be. Nothing can ever exist outside of your consciousness. Existence relies completely on perception and consciousness to even be relevant. What is the difference between a fairytale land in a book, the black void people typically conceive of as nothingness or nonexistence, and a reality you imagine exists like heaven? They’re all just imagination. The only thing that’s real is what you can experience in this very moment. As soon as something exits consciousness, it exits existence. There’s no proof for something existing outside of consciousness, and there never will be because the most fundamental building block in any proof is, you guessed it, consciousness. Before using reason or logic or any other conceptual tool to prove something you use precisely one thing first: consciousness. Even if you and I are both conscious entities, we live in completely different “universes of consciousness.” Precisely, that is to say that one consciousness can never be shown another consciousness to exist without perceiving the other consciousness through the lens of the original consciousness. As soon as one consciousness comes into the other, the secondary consciousness immediately becomes an aspect of the primary consciousness. So if you were to completely merge your consciousness with mine, your consciousness would be held within my consciousness, and it would be the same for you if the process were done from your perspective. This is a clear mechanic of consciousness. We can never know if the person sitting across the lunch table from us is conscious. We can only assume one way or the other. Anything imagined to be separate from the perspective of the original consciousness will always just be one more aspect of the original consciousness. In this way, we are entirely alone as consciousness. We are not alone as human beings. There are plenty of humans walking around. You can clearly perceive that, but by the very nature of perception, consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness without it immediately becoming another aspect of itself. Consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness as some sort of separate thing. Once the “other” consciousness is viewed, it only exists as long as it is in contact with the primary consciousness - the point of perception, and it is only truly the primary consciousness the entire time. In this way, you can never truly share space with another consciousness. You cannot perceive another consciousness. Anything you perceive is just you. You are consciousness. Everything is you. Everything is consciousness. It will be this way for eternity. You as consciousness will likely visit innumerable dreamt up worlds that you’ve created. You’ll perceive yourself as some kind of avatar or character as far as we can tell. You’ll at first see all the rest of the characters in your dreamt up creation as separate from you, but in truth those dream characters are just as much you as your primary character is. They’re just characters held within consciousness. One, your primary character who you at first feel to live inside, simply exists in your consciousness more of the time than the others. Ultimately neither the other characters or your perceived primary character is you because you are the consciousness that permeates all aspects of the dream world including its laws of physics, characters, objects, and everything else. You aren’t the characters any more than you are the objects or the laws of motion that govern that reality. You are all aspects of that reality. You are all aspects of all realities. A reality can only exist within you. Something is only real to you if it is held within your consciousness. No realities exist outside of the one you are experiencing right now. This waking state planet Earth does not exist when you are in a dream. Your wife could tell you that the world still existed while you were asleep, but you have to see how this is exactly the same as if your dream wife told you the dream reality was there while you were asleep. It means nothing because you as consciousness were not there. That seems to be the pattern in what we can verify between both the waking state and dreams.

Ein Sof has been attained by more than Moses. Silly myths. Ein Sof is Zen satori and Buddhist cessation. It's just Nothingness. It is not even the highest attainment.

For the experience of physical stuff. You can't have two different experiences at the same time, if that's what you would consider to be unbiased. You can't be a dog and a kangaroo at the same time, you have to fully become either thing. If God switched to pure blank, you would say the bias is that there is no physical stuff. But, in order to experience either situation, aspects from each need to be negated. It's also noteworthy to be conscious of the fact that you're ultimately just imagining bias, because you're imagining that there is an experience that is other than what is right now, and that you can't access it. This current experience is all there is. Even hypothesizing about a different potential experience is just extrapolation, because the only experience is your current one. Consciousness wanted to experience you thinking that it is biased, and in order to do that it had to make you imagine some experience of empty blankness that you can't access. Although, it's not like you are unable to experience a "pure blank". I have experienced it before. It doesn't take any extra effort for the universe to experience what it is like to be a human than to be in a state of pure nothingness. "Pure blank" is not some special default state of consciousness that is fundamentally different from normal experiences, it is just another experience in the vast ocean of experiences.

I mean I get it intellectually. I can talk about how stuff is actually nothingness theoretically. But experientially I feel that's stuff doesn't equal no stuff. What I don't get is... If stuff is actually no stuff if you get to the bottom of it.. Then why it takes on the appearance of stuff exclusively?.. Why the universe wasn't just pure empty space?

I don't think empty blankness is more "pure" or "original" than any other experience, that's just some bias you've come up with. It's still just one state out of infinity. I think a state of empty blankness simply makes nothingness easier to understand or see, and so you are equating that to being more accurate to nothingness than other experiences. An "endless blankness" is still a manifestation of potential, it is still something that you experience. Going for a walk in the park is as close to nothingness as a state of endless blankness, that's what it means for the dualities to collapse.

Some say nothingness is identical to a fountain of pure infinite potential and it just spawns forms forever. But it could be posed that the universe was just an eternal singularity of endless blankness without any potential. Having infinte potential seems like a bias that requires explanation. When no such explanation makes sense.

Like you said: Stuff = Nothingness. You just need to recontextualize how you view physical reality (aka stuff) to realize first-hand this Truth.

I honestly feel like I've come many times to coming to this realization but its not happening yet, I can almost taste the nothingness. I just want it so badly lol

You're equating a difference between nothing and something and experience. There isn't any this is Absolute Nothingness right now. That's a mindfuck to become conscious of. But it will shatter all previous paradigms.

Ultimately it is simply “everything.” It’s You. It’s God. But in this context, I’m mainly referring to emotional states which alter the metaphysical qualities to how existence feels to be. When you’re in intense physical pain, this could be said to be a state of consciousness. Notice the label “emotional states” doesn’t give a full picture. It’s hard to capture the nature of this elusive beast because at its core it is Nothingness itself. It can never be captured, yet you already have it simply because you are it. It is you. We call something a notable state of consciousness generally just because of how its feel is drastically different than other experiences. Everything is infinite, eternal, and perfect right here, right now as “consciousness.” This is true whether it’s a common state or radical state.

Recall that this is what you wrote: "But I also do not believe I am above taking a life to sustain life. And I don't take that responsibility lightly." This claim is what I was curious about. It seems to me like you are holding on to something. Why can't you simply be "above" "taking a life?" I bet you can. It's not hard. You said you even did it for 2 years. So why hold back? What would you lose by committing to being vegan? (or even, what gain from non-veganism are you attached to, if any?) I'm not asking for a reasoned analysis of variables, but rather for an honest reflection of identity-level instinct. You can just simply choose to minimize killing, lol. It's not rocket science. What's so personally precious to you about "taking a life to sustain life?" Why make it into a responsibility? For a number of us, this "responsibility" you describe has dissolved into nothingness... no longer a burden. 1) You can live according to veganism without being ideological. In fact, you can live according to veganism for reasons entirely other than ideology. 2) Veganism at its core is not about taking ethical positions. It's simply a mode of being. You need no "ethics" or "positions" to be in a particular mode. 3) Have you tried vegetarianism? Matters of compassion are not all-or-nothing as many vegans would declare. Simply putting meat aside is still a meaningful personal change, and products like eggs really do help (for those who insist that "they need meat for health"). Obvious exceptions if you have health problems like SIBO but I assume I am communicating with someone of average health

How close atheist in their view that everything goes into nothingness. No sensation , No thoughts, No emotion, No thinking, Just silence . As compare to definition of consciouness. Can any enlighted person elaborate to me?

There are no enlightened people. But this body is apparently going to unfortunately come before you and tell "you" something: There is no real experience, it just seems like there is, and all there is is what it seems there is. This no-thing which is everything does not move. There is no real space or time, but if the thought "this is really happening to me" appears, then it can seem like "time" carries "you" to the future. It's an energy that imagines there's a real future that never comes -- it's an illusion. This is already nothingness. Consciousness will not be interrupted because it didn't start. You can't get it. If it isn't obvious that this is everything, there will seem to be experience, or another time, and the appearance will seem to have someone "in" it who has a "life."

@James123 yes, we are nothing, amplitude without limits, zero. but there is a problem here: we also exist as "something". I think that enlightenment is more than liberation and nothingness. Maybe my ego can't accept be nothing, of course, but there is something!. And yes, it's liberating, relaxing, resting in the present at the end. But same time it's like sad. The void where there is no where or when, no shape, no energy. Always the same moment, the zero moment. What a party. But same time, there is a big party. The universe is. Impossible to understand that duality right now

@James123 i cannot "be" nothingness, only see it as one who looks out into an abyss. there is calm but also rejection. do you access that every day? how long, if i may ask?

Collapse of real time and space, revealing infinite matrix... from which, you come out the other side, miraculously. Witness practice was kicked up a notch ever since I did it, after already becoming fairly conscious and deconstructed. K-hole with relatively less conscious development is more just a great fun time playing with an astral body... After God-realization, immortality-realization, and infinity-realization have seemed to take place in one's journey, k-hole becomes more powerful than 5-MeO-DMT for... well for what exactly? The point, as I see it: loosening your attachment to progressively greater (well, more subtle) structures of mind/claim/understanding, so that identification becomes malleable enough to be as fluid as spacious nothingness, allowing entity contact, and progressively deeper God-realization, which never ends, it seems. Even more powerful combined with a psychedelic, but these days I would never do that. Certainly not at a k-hole dose -- I would not be coming back, I'm afraid. I cannot even describe what is sure to happen if I were to take ketamine + psychedelic now.