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1. Do you think you will ever live as a "fully awakened self"? How far do you think you can advance spiritually in the future? 2. Do you think we will ever have a fully conscious/developed society? If not, how advanced do you think society could possibly be in the future? 3. Could you see your channel potentially helping lead to a massively awakened society and pushing real spirituality into the mainstream? 4. Do you think a conscious society could possibly exist with diverse cultures and religions also existing simultaneously? 5. Have you tried nofap/semen retention? If not, what are your thoughts on it? 6. What was the lowest point in your life? The highest? 7. Do your family and friends live a similar life to you? 8. Who is the most awakened individual you have ever encountered in your life? 9. What do you do every day? 10. How has your health been? Any improvements since your last update on it? 11. Do you believe in synchronicity/numerology and other obscure fields discussed by some spiritual communities? 12. What is your specific life purpose and plan for the rest of your life?

@Carl-Richard Good point. @Preety_India Yep, everyone has a different “ideal” of their dream life and that’s okay. For me, I love running businesses, I don’t need them to be happy, but I wake up everyday excited to work. (Only if it helps people, I couldn’t work in certain industries ofc) @aurum I actually agree with you, and think it goes far deeper than SD stages, and also involves things like personality & the type of person you are. Learning the Enneagram helped me understand & appreciate so many different perspectives & what makes different people “tick.” For example, Ramana Maharishi & Eckhart Tolle are Enneagram 9s- very peaceful, chill guys usually, (typical stoner) very naturally meditative is this type. But compare their style to say Nisgardatta who was bossy & authoritative because he was a type 8. So, in relation to your points, certain people, will be much happier with less (5s for example tend to be minimalists naturally) and more than happy with a “simpler” life, 7s (I’m a 7, Russell Brand is an extreme 7 lol) are much more “go, go, go” the active type who love to be doing things, so in your community scenario, the guys doing the busy work & running round with a coffee, whereas the 9s would be running the meditation & therapy sessions lol. But, I think you raised great points, and that’s where Green can really help balance Orange and realise there’s more to life than material pleasures- monetary, sexual, objects & more to life than the pursuit of individuality, a switch to a more collective approach helps people grow on a number of levels. I also think it helps wealthy people become more conscious & use their money more consciously, instead of hoarding. I mean let’s be real, nobody needs more than like $10M really once you have a few nice houses & cars etc, To us, the guys with 15 cars & 3 yachts & 7 mansions seem silly, but they are simply trying to fill a void with “stuff.” Now, dont get me wrong, we can all enjoy materiality & “Orange” things, and I’m certainly not demonising it, but it’s never going to make us happy, alone, kt can be fun, bring joy etc sure. And, yes My integrate Orange was aimed a lot more at younger “spiritual” people who can’t even hold down a job etc, your example I also know of, and I believe that comes from a more conscious choice, rather than having no money because they don’t have the skills to make money. To me, money = freedom, and the lower your living costs are, the less money you need for that freedom. I personally am in a wealth creation phase, and have plans to build wealth over the next few decades, but as I mentioned in another post, the idea is to always be investing in things I believe in & to always be giving back, I see no value in hoarding millions, but instead want to use money consciously. I can definitely see the value in giving up use of money, living on very little for those who want the simple / hermit / monk style of life, I am almost certain it’s not for me, but I am defo not shitting on anyone who wants to live that way, I don’t think there’s any “right” way for a “spiritual” being to live, but agree they would focus on more than just their individual needs. 2 examples of deeply awakened beings living “western” & “family” lives are Rupert Spira & Francis Lucille, so I think it can work either way for Green+ beings. (Id class these 2 as Turquoise) Wow, I rambled, sorry!

That's how I usually check "I am enlightened AMA" threads, purely based on compassion. Doesn't mean you agree with everyone, it means you are You. Both this expression and the question it was aimed at remind me of - Conscience. My own experience of what Conscience is and how this experience has changed as I have gotten older. To say an increase in conscience means also an increase in Being feels accurate to me. It also feels like the more shadow is removed from my consciousness/subconsciousness, the clearer I can hear the small, still voice, as the saying goes. But primarily Conscience reaches me through feeling. The more shadow work done, the cleaner the emotional center is, which results in increased accurate intuition. Clairvoyance is experienced in the beginning only as brief flashes. At most, the beginning is all I've reached and a shaky one at best. So I'm not implying any kind of great one time sweeping realization or attaining superpowers. ? To get rid of guilt is primary. Implanting in humanity the notion of inherent guilt is/was a horrible joke/spell/curse/whatever. I'm not implying psychopathy as a way of life but rather than guilt- remorse- is the correct feeling when I/we have caused harm or violated Conscience. You have awakened Conscience when you are you and not the reaction from the stern inner voice of the Superego telling us how naughty we've been. The Superego by its nature keeps guilt within the framework of our experience. This highlights the need for individuation which requires integration of our inner aspects which are contradictory or seemingly so. Morality changes from culture to culture and also over time through history. Awakened Conscience has universal unchanging empathy and compassion and is not as changeable as morals yet has a definite tone of responsibility. People who speak completely different languages can understand each other with the 'language of the smile'. I try to express from my being rather than my personality but ironically my inspired expressions can have the tone arrogance or of telling everyone what's what. So I add this little disclaimer of having unaware unconscious, blatant arrogance and hope rather that the reader hears me with their being rather than their mind as well as overlooking my run on sentences and inevitable typos.

a japanese warrior lived in different times, where war was often the only way in wich political drama wold end. Militar competance was higly regarded because the neighbours tribe or countries could attack you at any moment. No diplomacy like now. it was a matter of suvive or being killed. This means that a Warrior, even if enlightened, would honor his duty for the sake of future stability. So war and fight is not hinerently bad. It from the point of view. in 2020, 1st w. countries are at a level of development in wich they can afford to dispise war because we have ingeneered new ways with wich we can solve conflicts. By today's western standards anyway, it is true that an awakened one is much less likely to be a soldier, bank robber, gang member, gambler etc, even tough it doesen't mean they don't have to survive. There is a big difference between, for example, eating and punching a granny, even if they are both selfish actions.

@Mosess This is normal, your thought pattern will become more abstract and unified the more awakened you are, it will make it difficult to use language because language is always creating dualities. Instead of trying to communicate everything in your head, when you talk, simply speak without thinking. Talk with your instinct and only speak what you feel like. Don't worry about how much the other person can understand if they can't simply stop talking.

In a sense, I can though I dunno if I felt it at the moment you sent it but I do appreciate it. I would say my experience is most of the time peppered with a kind of experiential tinnitus(and my tinnitus blares) like a noise of every kind in all densities I receive in. If this character I call latch is a complex lens viewing portions of the All then his perception is clouded by a distortion paradigm which is difficult to 'see' through for all the emotions, bias, unrecalled truth, etc. The cliche of being a spiritual being having a physical experience is apt if not overused. See what my mother wrote about me: https://imgur.com/a/TWTfweM My game of life is a puzzle and I like puzzles but cripe I seemed to have chosen the Hard setting. Some of the pieces are missing and others are bent and some are covered with mucus like my family tree has few branches but some are broken, some are on the ground and some are on fire! One can see some examples of my puzzle pieces in my synchronicities thread. There are a bunch of things I didn't mention- I was afraid of looking like I was bragging and had all my shit together so follow me! I been walking around a brier patch with night vision binoculars taped to my head sure I can see a ways and even it the dark if the batteries are charged but the next step is not guaranteed to not hurt.. nor the next one.. ad infinitum.. Oh and I think I just dropped the battery too! Fricken funderful! And as far a "Love and Light" goes, I was shocked with recognition when I saw it in the Law of One as one of my other names has the initials LL and my TF also coincidentally has the moniker initials LL or ll and ll, so you can imagine the effect it has on me and this person every time we see it's 11:11 twice a day- are the two dots separating us 'time and space' which are both illusions? I can't even say truly I would go around saying I'm awakened because I haven't studied much in that vein but I'm pretty sure I've seen the Source wall and assume I didn't pass it as I currently believe I'm this thing typing out this sentence which is indicative of the possibility that I made it back. The closest thing I've seen about me is described in the book Ancient Flower of Life Vol 2 in the third paragraph of page 318: FOL Vol2 Read the page prior for context and other experiences involving pushing past the half step out of the lower three chakras. It is assumed(by me) that everything is a clue that ties all of this together and I'm building a picture. The latch lens doesn't see things like normal folk.. I think there is a crack in it.. a butt crack Sorry, my sense of humour is weird.. and this is all part of the trip.

I have had a similar experience to you. Been in unitive for some time. 19 years old almost 20. Awakened about 8 months ago. Since then I've had many more awakenings. I felt like traditional school didn't resonate with me as well. Not because I was too lazy for it or something but because I felt like I was wasting my time and I wasn't growing from it the same way I was from consciousness work. I actually felt from the start like I didn't quite fit in traditional school but I did a year of college simply because I had no other back up plan and I also wanted to see what it was like first. So I decided to take a semester off and see where my awakening experiences lead me. I'm actually a few months into that semester and have discovered that what I really want to do is do something in the realm of life coaching 1 on 1 or something like that. The awesome thing about unitive stage is you can see all the stages bellow with love and compassion which is a great space for people to feel like they can grow with you in a coaching relationship environment. Thats what I found I enjoy and am passionate about, so I'm currently working on a certification for life coaching in an online class as a start. My advice is be brave, follow your heart but also have a solid plan behind it. If college is your only plan right now and you don't like it, do whatever you need to to figure out what you do like and then go all out with it.

I think you are still missing the point. You seem to be a little too caught up in the idea of what you imagine Leo to be. Or an awakened being to be. Its like someone took a painting of your guru and shattered it across the floor. I'm sorry to be the one to "enlighten" you - but all gurus are imagined by you.

Well it's different for everyone The Universe may wanna express its smartass side trough some awakened beings, why not?

@josh jones don't aspire to be like him - seek Truth for yourself. You are your own authority. Be careful not to put too much weight in your gurus. Or to categorize an "awakened being" as being a particular way. All is relative.

I've just been one here a little while, I've noticed how.he responds, what he tends to respond to, and how often he is on here, and i do not see an awakened person, let alone someone I'd want to listen to or aspire to be like. His awakenings do sound awful familiar though, almost as though I'd read them almost word for word in a dozen or so books about spirituality.

According to Wikipedia: "Enlightenment (spiritual), insight or awakening to the true nature of reality" "The English term enlightenment is the western translation of the abstract noun bodhi, the knowledge or wisdom, or awakened intellect, of a Buddha." Enlightenment requires time? From my understanding, enlightenment does not depend on anything because you become it by understanding your true nature = reality itself. You cannot separate the form from being, because being without any form would make no sense.

When something weighs heavy on my heart, I listen to the heart and let it go, because it’s a perspective in conflict with Truth. The last thing I’d do is focus on it, share it, etc. It’s like “this food tastes like poop...I better keep eating it and share it with others so they can taste this poop”. No self no problem. How can you be experiencing a problem right now, without perpetuating that story which is ‘itself’ the creating of the problem? Awakening can’t possibly be what you are thinking it is, as you’re the awareness of the thoughts, and more importantly, the focus. Let go of the wanting others to see you as that awakened / enlightened person, and you have no more suffering from telling the story about you, the awakened one with all the awakened experiences. Your threads are great, your comments are great. I always enjoy them, it’s deep and I like it, and am interested. In this regard however, it’s “if y’all really wanna taste this poop you gotta know the story behind it!”, but the back story recreates a ‘you’ the story is about, and you & the story are the recreation of the poop, evidenced by how it feels / tastes (suffering). If there were a subject and object, you being the subject and depression being the object....then maybe, you could fall into it. If there is not a subject & object, but rather awareness aware of a perspective which is not believed to be a separate object, then there is the opportunity to change the perspective, simply because it doesn’t feel good. Nihilism & solipsism are not love, they are perspectives about a you which is alone. It is far, far easier (effortless literally) to inspect and realize what you got wrong in your metaphysical understandings, than to continue suffering through being right. Only the separate self suffers, as that is what suffering is. Notice that’s a story. That situation is not unique to ‘you’ like ‘you’ believe it is. There isn’t a problem in the first place, sans resistance of letting a perspective go. Only in refuting this, there is a problem, which is ‘especially’ tricky to manage. “I realized nothing...struggling to manage it”. Gotta laugh at these perspectives rather than let them get you down / ignore that they don’t resonate. Consciousness didn’t need improvement to begin with. It’s (you’re) perfect already...and just entertaining some terrible feeling perspectives. “The main problem I’m having is that “I’m” alone...so...I’ll listen to what others think and how they size things up instead of the intrinsic inseparable love that I always am...which is loudly saying - No!”. Let go of that there is individual someone’s, and you realize understanding is an appearance. It is you. Only in perpetuating the separate selves, can there be the perspective “no one understands...”. All that need be understood, is that is you creating suffering. The need to be understood. You can feel right now the sweet peace of not needing to be understood, by noticing there is not understanding and a separate you. You can not see what is seen. (There’s now, not a past you think you saw). Look in front of you now. That is what is seen. What you really mean, is I can’t unknow what I know. The suffering, is what you believe you know. In short...”I know the Truth is that this sucks”. Wrong...evidence onced again, by feeling. Right. It must be ‘the path’s fault’...because it can’t possibly simply be the current perspective...cause “you’re” “right”. Love you! Wish you Well! ♥️ Let Love pop “you’re” bubble, and it will be so. Some perspectives feel as there do, because Love does not taste this poop. Love does not go with you to the poop trough.

@preventingdiabetes I never said when you self-transcend there won't be anymore lower needs. All of those will need to be met exactly the same as it was before you awakened. The only difference is it won't be your life anymore. But don't worry about what that means. The ego cannot possibly conceive of itself not existing because that would literally be the end of you. Consciously focus on your life purpose. Don't use self-transcendence as an excuse to ignore it. But at the same time, don't forget about self-transcendence. Your deepest fruits from life will be spiritual. During my journey I carved out time during the day for both with a little more emphasis on the spiritual because thats what I felt was right for me.

Furthermore: The "eternally complete consciousness," a. k. a. God/Goddess/Self is the Infinite One proclaimed by mystics from every tradition. Direct knowing of the One Consciousness dissolves the self who would be the "knower." There is no one standing apart from the One to bear it witness when awakening occurs. Rather, the individual self is understood to be an illusion of a separate identity. All duality ceases to have meaning; there is no opposition or division anywhere. In the deepest sense, no one can awaken to this truth. Becoming Self-Realized is the experience of knowing there never was and never will be anyone to become enlightened, and that nothing but Consciousness IT-Self is eternally real. Mystics throughout the ages have struggled to convey this apparently logic-defying Reality which seems to be saying that nobody is there when satori/samadhi occurs. But that is just it -- there is no body, there is only the One Eternal Self, the true Self who we all are. In this highest sense, we do not each have a distinct and separate Atman/Self. Rather, we are individuations, creative expressions of a Single Being. Throughout my life this knowledge has followed me as a reminder that nothing in this world is entirely as it seems, particularly not my own ego-self. The few people I've personally met who awakened to the "you don't exist, nothing is real, nobody you love is real" Source/Self have been mentally and emotionally eviscerated by the experience. Yet for me, while still in the egoless God/Self state, there was also a spontaneous shift into the joy that Nancy later discovered was the second half of the equation. So I didn't spend years working through "issues" to get to that completion. My joy came during the experience of God/Self's ecstatic love for all creation -- even while acutely aware that all creation is maya, dreamstuff, nothingness. So I came "back" from it both reverberating with love and shattered by the knowledge of God/Self's solitary predicament. Reconciling God/Self knowledge with just about any other facet of existence was a humongous challenge. For a very long time, although I continued to function normally on the surface, I was in a twilight world where nothing, including myself, seemed to have any substance. I pretended not to know what I knew, and I was ever in search of an illumined soul who might somehow help me bear the weight of my secret knowledge. There was always an element of absurdity in the attempt to find someone who understood. I was ever aware that "I" in the encapsulated form of a human El Collie was a hollow shell, a clever pretense that Consciousness used to deliberately disguise itself. I knew why the disguise was necessary, while at the same time, I knew there was nothing which could be hidden and no one to hide from. I had the acute sense that I was a transparent vessel through which God plaintively sought relief from being God. I found myself filled with tender envy for those who believed in a God who was "other" -- a deity they could adore from a distance, sweetly enfolded in a relationship of child to Father or lover to Beloved. The God that had exposed IT-Self to me could neither be approached nor escaped from. Trying to come to terms with my lasting sense that nothing was real, I went on a rampage of reading all the religious and occult literature of every sect and creed I could find in hopes that I might come across some piece of wisdom that would rescue me from the immensity of what I knew. I found what I had experienced being described over and over again, couched in myriad symbols and semantics. The God I experienced had not set up the universe as a labyrinthine game of solitaire, the sole purpose of which was to find the way back to the starting point and win. The game, if one would call it that, is infinite, and both poles are necessary: self as individual and Self as Cosmic Source; world as Self-creation and world as everlasting mystery; yin and yang in eternal embrace. "One has to live in the two extremes; like the snake, up and down, right and left," wrote Jung. "One cannot take the road of life without taking both sides of it because one side alone would lead to a standstill; if one wants to live one must endure the opposites because the way is two-fold." (from The Visions Seminar) I had no idea at the time of my realization that so many others throughout history had experienced this same awakening. Even if I had known, the last thing I wanted or needed to do after my enlightenment was to proclaim myself any kind of advanced soul. This would have been in contradiction to the realization itself, since it had been made wholly clear to me that at the ultimate level, there was no one in existence but the One, and that even God-asleep-to-God in so many "dream" forms of multiplicity was by divine design. There was no one else for me to attempt to awaken. "On seeing through the illusion of the ego, it is impossible to think of oneself as better than, or superior to, others for having done so," Alan Watts aptly put it. "In every direction there is just the one Self playing its myriad games of hide-and-seek." (from The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are) Years after I had this experience I came across a Hassidic Jewish teaching that God needs man as much as man needs God, and this is definitely true. God needs creation as much as creation needs God, just as all of us need each other. We were created to be a loving universal family and to be beloved children of God forever. Yet the paradox is that although we have been "created" as eternal souls, we have never left the mind of God and in that sense we don't really exist, we're just God-thoughts. In some of the Eastern religions, they don't speak of God (or Goddess), but of "Self" because there is a level where there isn't anything to be drawn into the Light, there is just One mind dreaming the universe. "The spiritual world is one single spirit who stands like unto a light behind the bodily world and who, when any single creature comes into being, shines through it as through a window," said Aziz Nasafi. "According to the kind and size of the window, less or more light enters the world." This single "spirit" is the Self/Source addressed by the Katha Upanishad: "Smaller than the smallest, greater than the greatest, this Self forever dwells within the hearts of all." The same spirit/Self/God is, as Joan Borysenko writes (in The Fire in the Soul), "present in all things, all experiences." http://web.archive.org/web/20130606091318/http://www.elcollie.com/st/god.html

Lol I'm only joking bro, it's just when someone says what level they're at it strikes of someone who isn't at that level esp when it's so high. For example I can't imagine sadhguru posting on forums about high he is. But part of me calling it is probably ego but also part is wanting to help in a roundabout way. Because from your posts you dont seem to be some crazy high enlightened person, so if you believe that you are and you're not it will keep you stuck on whatever level you are actually at. So when people call you out on it it's most likely these 2 things, you may not see it in that way of you're tied to your identity as an awakened being but I think it's good to talk people who will question you.

Those are just glorified experiences. If something happened and you are now enlightened, then your enlightenment had a beginning and will have an end. The only real enlightenment is noticing That which never changes, no matter whether your experience is pooping, picking up girls, whether you are having an ego death and cosmic expansion experience or writing a post. Same to you, even from your name it can be seen that you believe that there is a way to awaken. But only if you do, it will be an enlightenment in time. You did something, you achieved it and now you are awakened. Enlightened. That cannot be the Absolute Truth which has no beginning and no end and is all of reality as we speak. Why are you clinging to an idea of Enlightenment , all these tools and techniques are merely put there in order to be negated in the end. You never received Rasa. All that stuff happened to your waking state character, you remain untouched beyond the states. That waking character is as much you as the dream character... This body-mind just appears to be you, its a mirage - not saying its a bad mirage. Enjoy it, I am too! By writing on the forum sometimes - you do your stuff, like trying to pickup! That's all enlightened behaviour, because the waking character will never be enlightened. To be enlightened means to wake up from the waking character to the ultimate reality beyond Time itself. There are not even states in reality, but I use the common belief of the 3 states to show to you that it is your experience that you are the same Self in Waking, dream and deep sleep. So you cannot be the Waking self and cannot be the dream self. So who wakes up? The waking self will remain in the waking, no matter how woke it is, the dream self will remain in the dream... Those 3 supposed states happen in you, the already awakened ULTIMATE reality. The reality of you, the actuality of you is That. This content has been brought to you by, The Now - an independent service

I agree with you. Ultimate reality is unitary, infinite, nonconceptual, and timeless. It is the convergence of all choices and of no choices. From that perspective, there is no "you" and there is no "personal choice". Individual free will is an illusion. How then do we explain the law of karma? If our life experience is the result of the choices we make, and we continue to suffer until we transcend, is this not a contradiction? Does free will exist only within the world of form? Or even here, is it nothing but a series of causes and effects, which ultimately originate in Source? And what about responsibility? Are we responsible for our own awakening? If not why are we here in this forum pursuing the path of an awakened state? If there is no free will, aside from protecting society, how do we justify condemning criminals when they had no part in their own crimes? Should we never apologize for anything, or seek forgiveness for "our" mistakes?

What is your current baseline level of consciousness and how do you plan to increase it What do you think about the maps for awakening and where would you place yourself. Take the buddhist one for example Do you think there are permanent stages of awakening that you can't go back with regards to your daily experience and has any of it occured to you? If not, how would you rate your growth or progress Has all the pyshedelic use shifted or heightened your daily mode of perception in any way? Considering what you said about glimpsing levels of consciousness that are more profound than what most of the awakened ones have seen. Do you plan to aspire or reach a state of unity and oneness as your baseline level

The best way of putting it I have found is this. If someone isn't awakened, has little interested in spirituality etc, it is much easier to suggest they have Free Will, because telling them they don't leads to things like Nihilism and destructive behavior, imagine telling a Psychopath they have no free will, that would be abused. When you awaken, the question almost dissolves itself, as there is no separate self to have free will or not. Ramaji & Ananda had a satsang a few months back on this and one of the students put it perfectly, that you eventually drop this notion of Free Will or Not, all that matters is the actual action, which is always spontaneous, and where the action is coming from which will be on behalf of love & understanding. All that matters is the action itself, it is always spontaneous and it is always now. If you're asking if you have free will or not, you're missing the mark. 'To know and not to do, is not to know.' - Famous Zen proverb, that explains this perfectly. Act on behalf of the Self always, and that also applies to your 'personal' life!

Seems like a very litteral and one dimensional, somewhat simplistic conceptual interpretation of "mind full" vs "mindful" where a full mind is better and equal to the ability to conceptualize and that mindful mind is the equivalent to the meditative state of letting go of everything, having an empty mind or "no mind" without the capability to conceptualize at all. A full mind is useless if it is full of nonsense or not able to focus. A mindful mind holds an increasing ability to, as needed, conceptualize consciously in a focused and directed way such that is useful and serving the moment and adds understanding and clarity to the perception of what is. The moment is less clouded and we can be better observers of what is. Implying that being mindful in each moment is equivalent to being in a mindless state seems to imply not having awakened into what I'd say is imperative to further progress, i.e. not being able to see and observe the going-ons of ones own mind and this on a permanent basis, i.e. still stuck in an autonomous reactive state of mind. The dog analogy implies being prone to suggestion but it is rather the link between lack of awareness or inability to be mindful to what is that makes us vulnerable to suggestion, i.e. when driven by primitive autonomous impulses such as dogs are, or as slaves under ones social and cultural programming. A choice to not interact or be attached / affected by what is can be percieved as not seeing, understanding, caring and be mispercieved as representing the mindless dog that has no sense to revolt against what is. Although states and stages should not be mixed and the cognitive abilities are more so related to the ability to hold ever increasingly complex thoughts and hence increases the availability to more complex concepts. Low along the cognitive developmental line(s) and high abilities in reaching such consciousness states, more or less temporary, probably is closer to "the dog" in terms disconnectedness paired with low ability to conceptualize. Judging based on that correlation makes for a simplistic analogy that is lacking in nuance. Oh the joy, wonderful distraction

Bro we should be on our knees right now praying to the Eternal Self. Not being arrogant and trying to claim the Ultimate truth for our own personal truth and tell people that we are awakening. Nope! As you say the mind doesnt exist but it is imagining. Well which one is it. It appears that you are a bit confused and thats ok! Because you are the small mind also, that appears inside God. Accept you are not the Absolute as a form identity. Now let's stop saying lies about being awakened and stuff! Awakeness is awake. I am awake. But not as anyone. Not as Dodo. You are not awake as the person typing. The person typing should lower his arrogance and start praying to the Self. We borrow our existence from the great Nameless. Trust me, you want to be a human. Otherwise you wouldn't be imagining it. When I find out I'm dreaming at night, I am interested in the dream, I don't want to remove it, just because its not real. And thats sort of what you are trying to say but I can feel that you are just well versed in these things and that you're still deluding yourself a little bit. Not to sound like I am higher and holier. I am not, we are one reality, we are one illusion. But let's be real, we are the illusion. The reality is God and that cannot be claimed as a personal Self, because the personal Self is in it also.

yeah. What if I told you your mind has not stopped, it is still operating fully and is now creating a persona around how awakened it is. Ego on steroids . Trully awakened means you know you are the Absolute, now is that body that appears to be typing on a PC claiming to be that Ultimate eternal one? Be honest.... Be HONEST with yourself, not with me. Is the human claiming to be the Eternal Self beyond form??? If not, then who is the "awakened" one - the eternal self or the human self?

I'd say, you are too awakened. This is a very dangerous stage of spiritual awakening known as spiritual brain detox.

By that logic, @zeroISinfinity would be the most awakened person on this forum. Jokes aside, can you be more specific, what do you usually talk about that others don't get?