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Toxicity doesn’t ‘work’ the way you’ve mislead yourself to believe. A mind confined as such would not recognize it if the entire universe weaved of itself the greatest possible gift for itself. The utilizing & clinging to this falsity is fear. Fear is the avoidance of feeling. This is like vacuuming the floor, not even noticing it’s not plugged in, and assuming it’s the vacuum’s fault that vacuuming is not possible. This is like believing “we are unable to interact in a healthy way”, and missing you’re creating that belief. The belief is there is toxicity, and other people are toxic. The truth is you are the source, and there is no toxicity, just the occasional innocent judgement. It is good that there is feeling, so this is readily recognized. These are the words of an awakened being. By awakened, I mean one who recognizes the distinction between conceptualization & direct experience, and as such is a source of wisdom. If I were you, I’d spend a day reading this: “Why not use that as clarification to be the Dad you wish you would've had? You don't have to sacrifice or give up any of your life dreams for your kid. Don't use your life dreams as an excuse to skip out on your kid and don't use your kid as an excuse to skip out on your life dreams. Either option is fear talking and making excuses. The kid might help you clarify the shit out of your life plans though. It might seem like you're making sacrifices. You've been given a gift. You can have your cake and eat it too. Really. You cannot ruin anyone else's life without their permission. Let yourself off the hook, drop this fear and then you'll be free to act from the heart. Also likewise your ex and her influence cannot effect you without you giving it permission. Is it easier to cut someone off so we aren't affected by them? It seems that way in the short term but that's only kicking the can down the road. We'll inevitably run into the same kind of thing down the road with another partner in some other way until we learn to face the issue.”
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I don’t know how else to put this, but this video has led to an awakening. Since I started reading about people’s DMT experiences a couple of years ago I somehow innately knew the truth, even though I’d never done psychedelics or meditated seriously. However I was not ready for this revelation at the time - I have had mental health issues for much of my life, and my reaction was one of great panic and wishing I’d known nothing about any of it. I managed to gradually fall back into my ego after I stopped viewing spiritual content, and hadn’t thought too much of the matter again. However, today this video appeared in my recommended and I couldn’t pull myself away from clicking on it and viewing the whole thing. I now find myself in a similar situation after having watched this video; the awakening which may have been partial before now feels completely profound. In some ways it is beautiful, however I must admit that at this stage of my life I am not in a fit state of mind to deal with this knowledge, and am willing to say that I would rather live with the wool pulled over my eyes for a while longer. Will this stay with me forever now or is it possible that I can return to my ego? I have had incredibly vivid dreams most nights of my life, which may be an indicator of my susceptibility to being awakened even without intending to be. I also experienced an alcohol induced psychosis earlier this year, during which I believe my suppressed intuitive knowing of consciousness came to the fore and faced active resistance in the form of my ego. It’s only after the experience of watching this video that I’ve been able to draw that connection, however I fear that I now cannot go back. Can anyone help?
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Forestluv replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“Ultimate” is also a superlative. I find it curious how superlatives are used and mind immersion into superlatives. We could say there is an ultimate truth and non-ultimate truths. In one context, it is a deep insight. Yet when the duality is seen, it’s silly in another context. At the higher levels, beings can be “multi lingual”. When they speak of a “thing” it can appear as though they have not awakened to another “thing”. In one context there is what appears to be stuckness within the process of thoughts. When the mind is transcending thought constructs, it becomes obvious when other minds are stuck within thought processes. There is strong contrast. Yet eventually this duality collapses as well into Nothing. What I write here is both thought processes and not thought processes. Thought processes, feelings, intuition, awakenings, cows, trees, quantum mechanics, face palms, nonduality and cookies all dissolve into Nothing. It’s so beautiful. As you eloquently express: ♥️ -
OctagonOctopus replied to RedLine's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I bealive the more awakened beings we have the more we will be able to develop such powers. It just that is is difficult when collective conciousness wants to keep us where it is at. -
Nahm replied to Shunyata's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No, not at all. Here’s some more specific info (below). Just opinion of course, but I’d be really careful about such a blanket lens. It’d be a trap to mistake judgement for one’s own authoritative measurement contingent on correlations (thoughts) between ‘awake’ & ‘ego consciousness’. There can be seemingly (falsely) awakened narcissists. It is entirely possible to “have awakening experiences” and perpetuate misidentification / dilute, refuse psychological help, refute all feedback, and ‘triple down’ if you will, on a more grandiose bypassing. As well, there are what someone might call ‘ego consciousness’ folks who are authentic, sincere, selfless & loving. Overview Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism. A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them. Symptoms Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can: Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerate achievements and talents Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations Take advantage of others to get what they want Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Be envious of others and believe others envy them Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can: Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation The recommenced treatment method is psychotherapy / psychoanalysis. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662 -
This man has come so far it nearly brought a tear to my eye. Materialists questions very conscious answers. I can see that the ordinary mundane world thinks he’s off his rocker. From social media and that. They just don’t understand where he’s coming from. But mike is aware, his answers are fantastic. To think what he was, where he’s been and what he’s gone through, in the public eye too, this man is going places. Yep of course I know he’s not an awakened guy, but he is genuinely awakening as a human being. The beauty of consciousness shows in this interview. It shows that no matter what you’ve been through, the ultimate nature of everything is love. And Tyson projects it. Fantastic
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Hey guys, it's my first post ever and I hope I will be able to clearly explicate my experiences and hopefully find other fellow warriors that I could relate to. I'm 23 and I 'found out' about spirituality about 4-3 years ago, after trying mdma for the first time. After that I meditated and did yoga on and off, found out about Ram Dass, Leo, Allan Watts, Teal and others; had around 10 solid psychedelic trips, one was really traumatic (experienced ego death, was definetely not ready for it yet). I also had a couple of dmt trips and about 2 years ago started meditating everyday. Started with 10mins a day, in four months it went up to an hour, since I was preparing to go to my first Vipassana retreat. Anyway long story short it all started in my vipassana retreat, I 'unlocked' something (now I'm pretty sure it's what is being called kundalini) with my first samadhi experience (first such high consciousness exp not drug induced). Since the retreat I can feel energy moving througout my body, sometimes I can't sleep, sometimes I sleep too much. It goes in cycles, those cycles more than often synchronize with moon cycles. I guess those cycles could also be described as ego death/ego backlash cycles? It goes like this: I start to feel distracted and drawn to addictive behaviors (staying on my phone longer than usual, lost in my thoughts more and more, feel more difficult to understand when I am satiated when I eat, harder to meditate etc) and it goes on for a couple of days, then gets worse bit by bit. It's hard to fall asleep, sometimes I stay up all night painting. If I manage to fall asleep, I feel energies going up my body starting from my toes, sometimes I wake up to those at night (at first it was worse, now I kinda got used to it a bit). Then I get to a point when I feel loads of energy inside, flowing from one part of my body to others, but at the same time I feel physically tired. Hard to get anything done, I want to sleep a lot or lay in bed all day. Around at that time I feel that 'something is coming'. Like the energy is ready to shoot out. Then something from 'the outside world' alings with what is going on in with these energies inside me. I find out something really big in therapy, or find a youtube video that blows my mind or something happens in my social life and it feels like it triggers the energy to pour out. In this stage I experience a lot of crying. Ofc, depends on what I find out, sometimes it's beautiful, sometimes it's hella painful. After this vomit of unconscious stuff I experience high states of consciousness in meditation (samadhi experiences if I may call them that way). Extreme love and peacefulness. I also noticed that as I find out something about 'myself' I also find out something about the universe. After those experiences, when I come back to myself, or the ego I guess, my perception is changed. I see life more clearly and I often make positive changes in my personal life. However, the deep samadhi experience triggers more unconscious stuff (my theory from 1,5 year of observation lol) which then after some days of euphoria and peacefulness starts the cycle again. Since vipassana I meditate 2 times a day, 1h each usually. I journal everyday, go to see a therapist once a week (really helps to ground myself and work through some childhood trauma), paint a lot (I'm a wanabe artist), drink lots of water, doing stretches and so on. I literally do everything that can possibly minimize the craziness of those cycles and was wondering is there anything I'm missing? It's scary to think that these might last for years or even decades (read somewhere). At first I was worried I awakened my kundalini prematurely and it will not lead to any good, but after several months I understood that there is no such thing as a premature awakening whatsoever. Everything happened as it should have been, and I am thankful for every single second of it, no matter how painful and world shattering this experience is to me. Being more conscious led me to completely change my life for the better. So now I am in a place of acceptance of what is going on, also willingness to move forward and hoping to find ways to facilitate this process. I will be thankful for any comments or advice.
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Mafortu replied to Chris365's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Like Frank Yang says, awakening and being smart are independent things, you can become conscious of the nature of reality while still being a trump supporter. No doubt Connor has had a profound experience, as his best friend says in his video it doesn't seem to be an act. If guys like Jake or Logal Paul awakened right now, no doubt they would be acting very similar to Connor here. Which begs the question.. is the pursuit of truth more important than the pursuit of wisdom? -
Byun Sean replied to Bird Larry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think this is where relativity of points of view come in and how language works. If you tell the average joe shmoe on the street that awakening is realizing that you are God and everything is infinite imagination, how much does that do to help him really and communicate what awakening is? He has no idea what the hell those words mean. At best he will attach some meaning of what he's associated 'God' and 'imagination' with in the past and make a mental model out of that. Language is only useful to the extent we can communicate by emitting certain sounds to create meaning in the mind of another person. Thus, awakened people may speak in these weird anecdotes because they appreciate how reality is being seen from many different points of view. And if you think about it reality only exists as an infinite number of different points of view. Thus hard 'facts' through language are not absolute, but only absolute from a certain point of view. At the same time the absolute is absolute so this is where things get wack. -
Moksha replied to Endangered-EGO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Free will, as a concept, is a trap. For unawakened people, the idea of free will makes them think they can "pursue enlightenment", when the truth is that enlightenment pursues them. For awakened people, the idea of free will is also a trap, because it ties them to the person. They are no more free to choose than unawakened people. The only freedom is Consciousness itself, manifesting through its creations. We can't take credit for anything. Whatever it is that makes us choose what we choose, it is because we were created to make that choice. How could it be otherwise? -
Leo Gura replied to Cosmin_Visan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reminds me very much of @Joseph Maynor. I tried with him for years and it only got worse because he was so pig-headed. I would rather focus my energy on people who will benefit from the advice. I used to believe that everyone should be awakened and saved, but this is not the case. Most are not ready. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to Cosmin_Visan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
lmao, he just wants to intellectualize Awakening / Non-Duality without any sort of experiential understanding. The fact you think truly awakened beings couldn't be an Engineer is funny, the paradox is, they'd likely be an incredible engineer if they wanted to & actually create things to benefit the System as a whole. Definitely shows several dangers of this work- Wanting to intellectualize everything in life & believing the mind is the master Not being able to conflate absolute & relative truths Going into any endeavor with your 'Cup already full', it means you aren't ready to learn. This isn't just true of spirituality. It's like going to a basketball coach, him telling you how to improve your game & then you saying nah fuck that, gonna carry on how I was as I must be right. Tbf, this Forum isn't ideal for new seekers, as I feel you need a base understanding to gain anything from most discussions. @Leo Gura @Nahm maybe we could create a 'New To Non-Duality / Spirituality Thread' which recommends some of the best books, videos, teachings etc that help new people understand the path? I know you have your booklist & videos, but sometimes so much choice can be overwhelming, perhaps finding the 3 best Beginner books & videos for examples with help people at the start, and will prevent very entry level questions & situations like this. Almost like if you were going to teach someone to Code, you'd expect them to know how to turn on the computer & the basics of technology, you wouldn't want to have to teach them the very, very basicS? -
Thought Art replied to Chris365's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@The0Self See, I really don't know how far along I am with any psychs because of the given nature of infinity and implicit understanding. LSD has awakened me to a LOT of things. But, I haven't gone deep enough. I do 1p-LSD and I do not get any visuals. I will awaken. Last time I was on DMT God gave me the thumbs up. Honestly DMT is a great time ahahah. Well, I gave it to myself. -
fridjonk replied to Endangered-EGO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah, but that's the problem of telling this to people who've not gotten it. That may be the truth in the direct experience of the one who has awakened, but saying it to a none awakened person is dismissing the process which led you to your awakening in the first place. -
Red-White-Light posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Christianity states that Jesus is the Son of God. Islam states there is only one God, and there is no holy trinity; Jesus can only be a prophet. The holy trinity represents three different aspects of Oneness and it doesn't contradict Islam. The father (Infinite Intelligence) The son (Consciousness Incarnate) The Holy Spirit (The field of Oneness) You are infinite intelligence incarnating itself into human form. Everything is made by you as infinite intelligence, including the incarnate self, which can experience spirit (Oneness) through awakening. Jesus created a narrative of being the son of God, as a way to explain awakening, but it was lost in translation. Prior to rationality, a lot of Oneness was misunderstood. People assumed they could have superpowers if they were God, or could perform miracles. They didn't take into account the limitations of incarnate form. Islam believes in Oneness, One God, Allah There is no contradiction here, as all dualities collapse, even the Holy Trinity. The confusion with Allah is, similar to Christians, they never become Jesus or Allah. Both biblical texts are showing you two different ways of being God/Allah or Jesus/Mohamed Mohammed and Jesus is a duality. - They're both awakened individuals. God and Allah is a duality. - They both refer to infinite intelligence. What we are seeing is these teachings becoming more nuanced, to clear up confusion. Less personifications, less worshipping, more scientific methods to achieve awakening. The biggest setback is the corruption of these teachings. People who are not realised, confuse these teachings and use them to unknowingly prevent awakening. It likes a scientist who has so many theories, but never sees the actuality of the science. Their mind constructs a theoretical reality. It might be factual true, but it's experientially false. You mind can't live in books or stories, or whatever fantasy it conducts. It has to come back to the realest thing there is, conscious experience of the present moment. There is a mental cloud that prevents that; only a conscious individual can discern it. Progression of Spiritual Teaching Son of God -> Oneness of God -> Non-duality -
Forestluv replied to Chris365's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It was not hidden for the content of claiming to be awakened or god. In my judgement it violated the forum policy for excessive self promotion. For those interested in his post, I’ll repost it without the self promotion. -
SilentTears replied to Cosmin_Visan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Its fine, no worries. For them its an amazing insight(which given credit.... it is). Go beyond. So wanna chat about some deeper insights you may have gotten? perhaps you have realized other aspects of reality. What about this... You exist so much(as an individual) that everything you do matters. honestly explore the self side. the self that knows its playing a game. the self that knows it exists because you are an aspect of reality playing with itself. yeah, they have a limit. A true spiritual master says those lines less and less as they grow(they could if its their path, but a highly awakened person does not tend to do that) Its not that they become less true it is that they see more aspects to reality. For someone still understanding this one truth they will fall in and out it often when trying to keep their consciousness raised. Tbh, people who say that all the time are great as they are growing but they are not that high conscious -
The main controversy with Mooji is the claim of lineage to Ramana Maharshi. The only 2 beings that Ramana formally declared as awakened were his mother just prior to her death, and Lakshmi the cow (yes, really). Papaji was a wonderful student of Ramana, though he gave rise rise to his own students (Gangaji, Mooji, etc.) leading modern Satsang sessions while claiming a lineage to Ramana that was never endorsed by Ramana himself. Having said that, I don't believe that Ramana himself would be in the least bit bothered. The only issue that appeared to upset Ramana was cruelty towards the animals. Even direct defamation against him did not trouble him in the slightest, nor was he interested in questions of which other teachers are fully realised; he told his followers to mind their own business! Some Advaita teachers also had a strong opposition to receiving money for their teachings, or feel that teachers should be celibate. If we take this to the extreme, Ramana is the only teacher who is 100% clean. Keep in mind that a lot of the prostrating and veneration stuff was happening even to Ramana, and is a part of the culture that Mooji controversially 'inherited'. In the end, Mooji's teachings are very pure and bring the essence of self-inquiry to a modern audience that might otherwise miss out. The small elements of cultic tendencies within the culture are only a minimal blemish. If you are given a pot full of gold, but then find a couple of pieces of coal inside, do you discard the entire thing?
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If someone had awakened and is now living boundlessly such as a Buddha. Without working for money but living for people and the world, would his survival be taken care of within little time? What if he didn't involve himself with people, but mostly observed and explored the world. What about survival then, would it somehow be taken care of?
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Leo Nordin replied to Leo Nordin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Breakingthewall I will do it my way? It just may happen one of you write something that happens alters my way, and that would be beautiful. I am 17 years old, can't get a drivers license yet. So I will (maybe) wait half a year more before leaving school, but then I would only have one year left to finish. In school I only do what I need to do then I meditate every chance I get, though I don't touch the seventh chakra, I can't surrender myself to "love" if I need to do things like sitting quiet doing schoolwork. I will ask the teachers to have a place for me to meditate without bringing attention to myself. If I finish school I could work with young children and make a lot of money in a year which would let me quit and live my highest potential for quite a while. I am not going to finish though, it's too long, too much limiting myself. By the chance of zero there is actually a classmate in my class that sais she has awakened or opened her third eye. She has little attendance, fools around during lessons and limits herself to a minimum while barely getting a passing grade. If I don't limit my seventh chakra or enlightened state I wouldn't be here so I can't really do that as of right now. I only sit in stillness all the time. When I get home I work on my van. -
I have some friends who were diagnosed bipolar. They often have grand visions about the world that are very similar to the ones I have had on psychedelics or when I am in an awakened state. I am not bipolar but are they just the same thing?
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I tend to think everybody has ambition - acctually something more basic than that, the ambition producing facility in you, just like we have emotions, body parts, toughts e.c.t. "Lack of intrinsic motivation" or i don't care is more like a clogged up pipe or a closed chakra, if it is directed it is bound to find it's expression and he shows intelligence to attempt to solve this problem by the same mechanism. He has enough ambition to find the problem for his lack of ambition - so therefore I mean he absolutely has amibiton. He is in the beginning of the journey where you are crossing multiple laps. It is after all exponential-like growth in self-dev. From 30 minutes of visualiation to intense years of action towards big projects. The actual problem of the clogged pipe - and this is just the case with most of us - it is clogged by our dietary choices, mindset, lack of exercise, media, instant pleasures e.c.t., so that muse never finds expression, but the mechanism is there and it's in fact working to some degree. You described it pretty well in your - getting in touch with your higher self video. That is literally a starter for directed desire, where ambition shows. I am very suprised that you are not saying the following things: Visioning is the cure for lack of ambition; Self-development is the cure for lack of ambition; Meditation and spirituality is the cure for lack of ambition; Taking yourself less seriously, detaching from outcome, mastery, hero's journey, more emotionally motivating concepts are the solution for this problem; Stopping dabbling, taking decisions e.c.t. are cures for lack of ambition; Sure we are dealing with a complex problem here, however, there are steps to infuse that instrinsic motivation which is synonymous with ambition; I guess you have forgotten about the value you keep providing. And people HAVE IT just like they have arms and legs, just like some people have never in their life experienced bliss, because they havent awakened these faculties. But it is there, even if its malfunctioning in a form of regret, dissatisfaction e.c.t., that is a projection of unused ambition units, which is what this post is about.
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TheAvatarState replied to Shunyata's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Shunyata no I'm not. The best way I can describe it is that I'm awakened but not fully integrated. My mind is "jailbroken" but currently dysfunctional in many ways. This can happen when dive off the deep end in the psychedelic realm without prior spiritual knowledge or practices. That was my path, but quite a painful one. There truly are no shortcuts! That being said, the awakenings I got from psychedelics are permanent. My entire quality of experience/consciousness has changed, and any practices I've been trying to incorporate have been way more powerful. I have a weird relationship with time, and I may have the capability to sense the future (on one of my trips time literally broke and I separated in time from my friend). It's about 15 seconds, sometimes several minutes, where I have a direct intuition of something about to happen, like a phone alarm or a siren or numbers or whatever. I want to explore and develop this more, but currently it's not repeatable or testable. @Inliytened1 thank you! -
Shin replied to Shunyata's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You still think you need someone else, higher than you (awakened), telling you what to do. I highly doubt you can awaken with that kind of mindset, since you fundamentally believe you aren't enough. As if someone else can be a better guide than yourself. -
TheAvatarState replied to Shunyata's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
First thing to understand is that this is a fools errand. Any method given is partial and may not work for you. It's way too tricky and each mind is a unique case. Awakening is almost always a slow process. However, there seem to be some general themes, just off the top of my head. Awakening can only happen through great suffering. Suffering is the catalyst for change. You must desire the truth and be willing to throw everything else into the fire. You must learn to let go of all attachments, and you must be deeply curious about the mechanice your own mind. Not everyone is meant to awaken because there are huge existential risks involved. You may not, and if that's the case, you have to be ok with that. There's nothing wrong with not awakening in your current incarnation. Enjoy it, have a family if that's what you want. From one perspective, everyone is already awakened. There are many degrees of awakening and awakening experiences. Not just a dozen, probably more like hundreds. The dial of consciousness goes way way farther than you could presently imagine. When most people talk about awakening, it's at a relatively low level. The higher ones aren't even recognized or known to be possible in most spiritual circles. I hope this helps. Many many techniques and methods can be found, and I would be wasting my time and yours by regurgitating them here. You must experiment and find what works for you, and no definitive list can ever, or should, be presented to be rotely memorized and unconsciously followed. That's the surest way to not awakening.