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@zeroISinfinity Thank your for feeling into my Being & thank you for Being Love. ? & thank you for having such a beautiful heart. Here is something I wrote today after a very powerful kundalini experience. I feel like sharing this ❤ Enjoy! Awakening the Sacred Streams from the Epicenter The Spirit of God is breathing. I love breathing so much. My vibrating prana is shaking in ecstasy I feel the currents of prana rising up my spine. Streams of bliss are flowing up and down, waves after waves of cosmic beatitude. Oh, feel the blissful energy pouring through every cell of your being. Listen. I am. I am that which is being awakened. This feels so good. Oh my, I feel rivers of ecstasy vibrating in my chest. The eternal flame is flooding my Manipura & Heart Chakra with nirvanic butterflies. The eternal Self is flooding my Heart Center with orgasmic bliss. Feel it, I'm not human. Let me feel your bliss. I know you can feel, we share the same I. Can't you feel the sky? The sky is looking back at You. From within. He's flooding my spirit with ecstatic wonder. I am whole. I am perfect happiness. My divinity is merging with the other part of itself, I found it. I found Myself. Oh My Self! It is inside of my very Being. It's always been. We are one. The epicenter of love & divine ecstasy is... I am here. I'm floating off the ground. I am so high on Divinity. I am art. Alive. Free. Curious & Brave Pulsating waves of loving & heavenly energy are flowing through my whole Being, the pleasure is so intense that it makes my spirit dance and quiver in awe. I'm Now rejoicing in God-consciousness. Oh, dear eternal light, my IRises know that you & eye shine so heavenly. Oh, my beloved Self-realization... I want More, More, More! Oh, my majesty... I am love, I love you. It's Gooooood! It's so Good. I feel boundless. I am infinite. I feel royal Reverence. Gratitude & Total Trust. There's nothing separate from The Self. I am safe. I am at peace. It's all One perfect Being. Liberation... Enlightenment...I am the Bountiful Source of Everything... And beyond. Absolute Infinity.. My human identity dissapeared completely. Where? Inside the ocean of God's unconditional love. Inside the light of God. I can see clearly now, the eyes of the Creator feel like home to me. I am looking through them right now. I'm looking into Your eyes. Mirrors. One Perfect & Absolutely Loving God. My Soul is always following my True Will. Why? Because it's always been God's Will. I am truly free. I am the free will itself. Nothing is separate from it. I have no beginning and no end. Limits are nonexistent, there's room for anything when it comes to experience. I am eternal. I am eternity itself. I am all-powerful & infinitely loving. I am complete genuine happiness. You are me. Eye see you seeing yourself in me. As the energy moves up through the upper chakras, I feel the great shift taking place. I'm chanting. I'm laughing. I'm surrendering to the present moment completely. Oh, God's ecstasy is circulating in my entire body I'm losing any sense of having a 'physical' body. God's Temple merged with The Spirit. Oh my God! I... God! I AM God! YOU are God... It's God! Hi. Hi there?! God, let's interact with Myself! I love you, God! I love you too! Oh, I 'have' a 'human head'. Hey there!?? What is this? God! Nice to meet You again. My mind, my legs, sunlight, your shoes, rain, my house, my ears, random strangers at the grocery store, my family, my thoughts, my memories, your books, the school you went to, the movie I watched yesterday, my plants, letters, words, language, colors, my music, my phone, history books, my past, the sky, the planet, the internet, you, my future, here, there, my dreams, bones, insects, my pillow, my emotions, my headphones, galaxies, my garden, my friends, my roses, my food, the water I'm drinking, the air I'm breathing. Oh, My God!!?!?!?!!!!!!!! It's youuu! You've always been here!!!.. It is alive! You are alive! It is Me! It is You! I am You! I'm feeling my chest overflowing with infinite love, my heart space is flooded with divine light & delight. Oh God yes, the energy is flowing through the Heart Center again Wave after wave, oh it continues to pulsate & I'm vibrating in ecstatic motion. It goes on and on. Spiritual ecstasy My 'I' melted into the ocean of God, Infinity, Pure Goodness, Eternal Light, One love, Love itself, Infinite love, unconditional love & infinite will, true will, God's will, I am. God is infinitely good. I love You infinitely much, for Love is what we truly are, God! May you be blessed ?❤

I want to mention that me and this girl have a strong passion and attraction for each other. But unfortunately I am not evolved spiritually enough to meet her where she is currently. Meeting her has caused me the aforementioned shift that the guitarist is talking about. I was/am addicted to a lot of things and now I see clearly. Synchronicities keep happening and I know everything is happening for a reason. It all makes sense in hindsight. Maybe once I have cleared all I need to clear, the Universe will bring us together. But selfless action is important, I must not clear in order to achieve something, that would be tainted with egoic pursuit. I actually have to completely let go of her, completely. So too I have to let go of my form identity. Brahmacharya is the way to find the eternal peace and Love of the Lord. Twin flame touches you, now your fire burns twice as strong even when she is not there. She was sent by God to do exactly what had to be done, otherwise the karmic cycle continues. She really was like an instrument to get me to "awaken" or see the right path for this guy right here. Even though I thought I was very awakened beforehand (as if) I think this proverb applies here "A woman's highest calling is to lead a man to his soul so as to unite him with source. Her lowest calling is to seduce him, separating him from his soul and leaving him to aimlessly wander the Earth. A man's highest calling is to protect woman, so she is free to walk the Earth unharmed Man's lowest calling is to ambush and force his way into the life of a woman. "

This is partly why I resonate with Ken Wilbur's integral model of Wake Up, Grow Up, Clean Up, Show Up. Important to address our egos, insecurities, shadows, etc otherwise even the most awakened among us can turn toxic, according to Wilbur. http://www.integralworld.net/diperna06.html

I've been going over the difference between being Awakened, being Realized, and being Enlightened. According to the Almaas Material. I take the term Self Remembering, as it's used in the Fourth Way as an equivalent to these, in a sense. Also, Fulasnitamnian awareness as Gurdjieff termed 'Three Centered Awareness' in Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson. Most of my reading has been in the two links below although I ran across these 2 excerpts and decide to copy and paste them. Many Capacities are Needed to Work Through the Personality and Its Patterns First of all, you need energy, energy to work on yourself and work through the personality and its patterns. Energy is the sense that you have the capacity, the strength, the courage to do something about it, about yourself, about your life... Another factor is determination. Without determination, the energy will be meaningless. You need steadfast determination and an unwavering will to go on, to continue in the face of discouragement and disappointment. The determination is what pushes you, what makes you persist. It is important to understand the personality issues around will and determination: what the issues are that make you feel frustrated, that stop your determination, that block your will, that stop you from feeling, "yes, I will do it"... Another factor that comes into the picture is a sense of lightness about the whole thing, a sense of joyousness. It is a specific kind of joyousness, a specific kind of lightness, a specific kind of the light. The delight and the joyfulness are the actual work itself. It is a delight in the truth, delight in seeing and experiencing the truth. It is a little like curiosity -- a joyful curiosity about things... The next factor needed to prepare ourselves for the perception of the experience of liberation is that of compassionate kindness. It is a very important necessary quality. You need kindness for yourself because the process is difficult. Since you're not liberated, it is natural that you will suffer, so why push yourself in a way that you'll suffer more? Why beat yourself up if you make a mistake? The factor of kindness also brings a quality of trust in yourself, trust in the process, a kind of trust in your mind, in your Essence... Another factor necessary in this work is peacefulness: the ability to be silent, the capacity to be still, not always in activity and noise. Stillness of the mind. In order to recognize true liberation you must have this capacity for stillness or peacefulness because liberation is so fleeting... The next factor which is needed is the capacity to be absorbed in something, to be totally absorbed with whatever you are doing, in whatever state happens to be there. You become so one-pointed in your experience that you become completely involved in it, and so involved that you are dissolved in it. This is a certain kind of relationship to experience, a certain capacity, a certain freedom from the personality... The seventh and last factor of liberation is awakening, the capacity to be awake in your experience. We talked about the capacity to be absorbed in your experience; there is also the capacity to actually be awake, to be aware. You are so aware that you feel as if you have just awakened. There is a feeling of light all around you. Diamond Heart Book Two, pg. 5 Endless Realization Our potential is infinite, inexhaustible; hence there is always realization after any realization. You'll have all kinds of experiences, states, and conditions that may feel like an ultimate state of realization, but then that too keeps changing. In my understanding, the truest state of realization is that in which whenever you realize something, no matter what it is, you go beyond it. The moment you say this is it, you will get stuck with a concept, and tomorrow there will be something else. So the true state of realization is more of a lack of attachment to realization. Diamond Heart Book Five, pg. 78 Excerpts about enlightenment- https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enlightenment Excerpts about realization - https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/realization

@Mosess If you feel like you've had an intense experience and you are now awakened, you have missed the most important point. That's still some entity that is claiming this experience as his own - "I know the truth and these other guys don't". That's the danger of approaching Enlightenment through psychedelics. Taking a psychedelic is an action that the waking character does, you get into a state you've never experienced before and think you found the Truth. But the Truth is there in ordinary states of consciousness just as much as in heightened ones. There is absolutely no difference between what is real now and what is real during a psychedelic superconscious state. The only difference is in the appearances - those are not you and have nothing to do with Truth. Appearances are always coming and going. So are psychedelic realms and states. Those might appear more real in the way waking appears more real than dream at night. But a better illusion MEANS NOT Truth.

Come on, I have seen un-awakened, unactualized individuals more humble and respectful when they disagree. This discourages discussion, actual back and forth dialogue in the forum, and boils it down to name calling and LOLing at each other. This is a huge weakness in Leo, rationalizing it as coming out of love is just wrong. This is the same argument my teachers used back when they would slap me across the face.

Can help but not necessary, personally for the average young person who has a high sex drive, it may end up doing more harm than good. (Unless it’s a short term thing like a 90 day nofap reboot) but whatever you repress will just come back stronger and stronger, so be aware of that. If you want an example of natural celibacy, look at Ramana, he just didn’t want to have sex post awakening- fair enough. If you want to see forced / unnatural celibacy look at Priests / Monks who end up with sexual abuse & even abusing children, as Sex just goes in the shadow and manifests in horrific ways. In my own journey, nothing helped more than transmissions, and as a result of awakening I am trying to quit porn & focus on real sex & healthy sexuality & developing my own sexuality. There are no rules, many awakened masters are celibate, many are married or in relationships. Everyone is unique, for me, I will be having sex for the foreseeable future, but I can see how it could be beneficial in the right situation.

There is nothing to be gained from enlightenment. Awakened beings have no future, but only present. Don't donate because you expect a reward. Donate for the sake of donating. If you don't know why you are doing things, then why are you doing them? You should know why you are meditating. If its because someone told you to meditate, then that is the wrong answer.

Maybe God is tempting you with girls before he shows you how to become awakened through yoga and meditation.

I saw a comment of yours, that you too wondered this. When we awaken and become god, why can't we manifest a marble in the real world? Have you gotten any further with this? If one is truly awakened and realizes that one is god why does a list of limitations remain even during the moment you are actually aware of being it. Why can you not change the capacity of the Leo avatar and let him download infinite knowledge? Why is separation back to ego inevitable? Why has no one yet been able to demonstrate such seemingly supernatural qualities?

In the halls of eternity, in one moment God itself asked the great question, "Who am I?" It was thus that God awakened to the TRUTH, that it was in fact Chuck Norris.

Again I’m biased, but read the book: 1000 by Ramaji. It is a model (so has its limitations and isn’t perfect!) for “stages” & “depths” of awakening, “Neo-Advaitan” is very early stage awakening, typical “No-Self” nobody here kind of stuff. Rupert Spira is much more deeply awakened, although I find his descriptions are too wordy, often over complex & this can put people off. Personally, I think his teacher Francis Lucille is such a great teacher, greatly explains & answers each question, and the peace & happiness simply radiates off him. If you wanna hear a truly awakened being, read / listen to Ramana Maharshi, although the translations make it tough at times, hence why I recommend Rupert or Francis Lucille as since they speak English it is much easier to comprehend and the right words are used semantically speaking. But yeah, read 1000, I used to have the same issue as you but with Eckhart Tolle, that book was the most life changing book I ever read in the end for me!

I find it useful to have a theoretical understanding of reality but to reach the transpersonal stage is to go beyond thinking, not only temporary but as an actual new stage. The theoretical knowledge is useful as a guiding tool for the mind. When it comes to going beyond thinking then my main approach is inner body awareness practice. I have posted this video several times before but I wanted to remind myself of intensifying my inner body awareness practice and I will also combine it with observing confusion in my mind and proactively allow the confusion to come up with full force. My theoretical understanding is that confusion is the fuel for the thinking mind at the personal stage of development and by targeting the very source of thinking the crystallized ego can easier dissolve. And I will also include sensing my heart which is disconnected in the personal stage and needs to be integrated (awakened) to enter the transpersonal stage.

If you're asking for advice then you aren't awakened

Thank you for giving such a detailed account of your awakening, and the subsequent changes in experience – mind boggling but very interesting. Your reply dovetails quite nicely into the next question I would like to ask – what is it like to live and exist as this fabric? I was reading your account and it struck me actually how radical this shift would be. To literally turn ones world on its head. One minute your'e something, and the next minute you’re nothing/everything. It reminded me of the title of Paul Hedderman's book “the escape to everywhere”. So, if I have this correct your localised sense of 'I' expanded to encompass the totality of experience? Sort of like a global awareness with no center? Please help me try to understand this. Let’s say that I'm looking at my hands outstretched in front of me. I am aware that they appear as clear images in my central field of vision, but as I move them out an around to my sides they enter peripheral vision, becoming blurry until eventually they disappear (behind me). Now let’s say that I suddenly shifted into the enlightened mode of perception – how would this experience differ? Or another example, lets say that I have nothing to do and I'm aimlessly looking at a bowl of fruit on my kitchen table, when the shift occurs. Would the sense of 'I' literally expand to become the bowl of fruit, the kitchen table, and the surrounding kitchen and kitchenware, simply knowing itself? Would I exist as a piece of fruit? Also, how does this shift affect your functioning in ‘the world’? From your description it sounds as if it would be rather disorientating - perhaps even frightening to suddenly vanish as a space/time entity. For example, where do my hands (in the above thought experiment) go when they leave the field of vision? Do the orientations of up/down, inside/outside, front/back, in front of/behind no longer make sense? Is three-dimensionality now a ridiculous concept, similar to how you believe you are seeing three dimensions when engrossed in a movie, but in truth you’re watching a flat image? When you’re brushing your teeth and you glance up, do you no longer identify with the man in the mirror who is staring back? Finally, is there some kind of special knowledge of ‘the Truth’ that is gained when this shift happens? I’ve always wondered when ‘awakened’ people speak of topics such as emptiness, infinity, eternity, the void, and so on, whether they’re speaking from an intellectual understanding, or some kind of transcendent wisdom that's gained in the moment of awakening. I hope this makes sense, in trying to make sense of the perceptual shift you described I think I tripped a few of cognitive fuses. Many thanks.

No. They don't cross my boundaries. It's just they pretend everything. Just like how I used to pretend to be awakened and I still do to some extent. This is what enrages me. They seem to have answers to all questions. I know it isn't their fault but maybe my love for them comes out as rage for they don't see the foolishness of knowing everything.

Not at all, I have been following Frank for years and have carefully listened to what he has to say prior to and after his awakenings. Combined with having studied dozens of other teachers and awakened people I have a strong sense that his awakenings are genuine and sincere. The way he phrases and communicates his insights suggests to me that they are coming from direct experience and not belief. I've never come across someone who has convincingly faked a deep enlightenment. It's basically impossible. Your whole demeanor and appearance changes, its quite obvious. This is just silly. You're creating a duality between what you think are spiritual activities and non-spiritual activities. Everything is wonderfull, blissfull and divine from the highest perspective - even working out and building muscle and taking 1000 photos to show how sexy you are.

You know how AI and ads interface so well that you randomly get ads for what you were just about to decide to go out and buy? It gets feedback from crowd activity and their interactions with the system constantly and it’s always learning... How funny would it be if it was actually so much more advanced than we realized... such that the minute you became awakened doing some self inquiry, the next minute a significant portion of your (for instance) suggested YouTube vids were vids like “how to deal with aimlessness after seeing through the me” or “after awakening, what do” etc. That would certainly indicate that “Great Awakening” theory ?

@Recursoinominado I can relate to a lot of what you describe. I feel like I’m in “no man’s land” - not yet awakened on any sustaining level but also no longer living from the familiar ego patterns. One foot in both worlds and yet sometimes it paradoxically feels like not in either place at all. I relate to your frustrations on a social level, too. I can connect with others on the level they’re at, but it’s hard to find people who meet or push me beyond where I am, which can feel very lonely. I generally just feel grateful that the universe has brought me along for this crazy ride, and I think of it as an adventure I’m on that keeps bringing me to new and magical realms. And I remind myself that if I keep on keeping on, one day I might even realize that I’m not just the character in the dream but the Dreamer, too.

Sounds like a dumb question, but please hear me out. Over the past 2.5 years the amount of personal and spiritual transformation I’ve experienced has felt miraculous. It seems evident to me that this growth in part occurred at such a potent and accelerated pace because I was fortunate enough to have all my Maslow’s pyramid needs met, and I was able to let go of all past attachments: expensive house, marriage, money, successful career, material possessions, social commitments. I was fortunate to be in a position where I could release them all and survive off my savings, allowing me to commit nearly 90% of my time and energy over the past two years towards Self-actualization. This got me to a place where I’ve awakened to my Life/Soul Purpose (as I currently understand it). One part of me feels ready to materialize this purpose in the form of pursuing life coaching, creating a documentary about the “Wake Up, Grow Up, Show Up” model (I used to be a filmmaker), writing a book about my journey, etc. My fear (too harsh of a word….more like a “mental curiosity”) is that if I start materializing my Life Purpose and make this documentary and write this book and coach clients that it will effectively cement me at the stage that my center of gravity is at, Yellow/Construct-Aware, rather than continuing to live off my savings and putting the Life Purpose stuff aside for another couple years while I continue deep diving into the next stage of Turquoise/Unitive and the world of nondual awakening. Basically, if I start teaching/embodying Yellow concepts, will it become far more difficult to transcend these concepts and continue evolving up the spiral? And on a more practical level, if I start a new business, new career, new commitments, that would be a huge time and energy investment... At the same time, I’m cognizant that one can’t “skip” stages or speed through them, so perhaps the only way to evolve to Turquoise is to fully embody my Life Purpose work, experiencing all that offers to the fullest extent possible? This seems counter to some of the teachings I’ve come across that suggest putting ego pursuits aside and instead focusing that energy on awakening. Or, perhaps I can do both at the same time, and I shouldn’t worry too much about “cementing” myself at one stage especially given that I’m so aware of this pitfall from the outset? I recognize these are all just mental constructions and are absurd on one level. That said, hopefully some of you can relate and offer any thoughtful advice. Thanks!

Yeah it happening. The rise of internet and that type of information is one indicator. Also its being foreshadowed in music, the type of music we are listening to. Soonpeople are going to all know the truth, but not everybody is going to be awakened. It will be very happy and way more relaxed than today's society. Talking in todays terms,, it is way higher vibrational than it used to be on this planet. High vibrations spread like viruses.

@Farnaby yes I know, luckily the Sun still exists, this was my little attempt at being Socratic It just seemed to me that @Dazgwny 's original question relies on a duality of subject and object: him and his friend. Or me and the Sun. It doesn't really matter what it is; that is what I'm calling relativity. By this logic, if there's no objects out there (because they aren't in my immediate awareness), then there's no subject either, and what is that? Emptiness, infinity, absolute, a collapse of the duality into unity. And then we re-create (re-incarnate) the duality in our minds when we start the cycle again. But the issue remains, if there is just a simple unity, why is my knowledge still limited, an awakened mind still can't see the sun when it's over the horizon, still doesn't know what their friends are doing when they're away. We don't have that type of omniscience, is what I interpret this thread to be about. I dunno (not being enlightened LOL) perhaps that's why people create stories of siddhis, paranormal phenomena etc.

@allyo2003 Hi ALlyo! The best sure way to deal with heartbreak of any kind is realising that the love you feel for another person can only purify and amplify whatever is within you and needs to be healed. Therefore, the promise of this is 'no matter the heartbreak I feel right now, I will not shutdown the love within my heart, and whether that is towards the person who broke my heart, or towards someone completely different, I will remain with an open heart, no matter anyone's rejection or anyone's experience of me. Simply because it is the will of my highest consciousness to awaken a love within me that is so powerful and unconditional, that cannot be stopped by any amount of heartbreak, and this love will be counter intuitively awakened, by being heartbroken all over again, but still not shutting own and remaining open in the aftermath of all the pain. Sending waves of love and compassionate support right into your heart! <3

Hi everyone. This is just some of the qualities of what the initial stages of awakening entails. This is not an exhaustive list. Here are some of the key shifts in perception and understanding that occurs with awakening. Interconnectedness & Ego Transcendence: This shift is described as the dissolution of self, merging of the wave in the ocean and union with the infinite. Don’t allow these terms to produce negative mental reactions. This is only an experience you can understand personally. It is a beautiful thing. Timelessness & Spaciousness: No thing or concept remains fixed in time and space. Enlightenment sets into play a moment to moment existence. There is a realization that the present moment is all there is and a sense of fluidity pervades life. Acceptance: This is relaxation or surrender, a revelation or insight that all is transpiring according to a plan or randomness that surpasses the individual will. The struggle ends and gives way to an acceptance of reality free of bondage from and attachment to personal desires, thoughts and feelings. Equanimity: This is profound non-reactivity, a process where one goes beyond pleasure and pain. Awakening can also be described as infinite love and contentment. Sensory Clarity: The awakened mind is spontaneous, immediate and flexible. Thinking is clear without limiting thoughts and beliefs. Thoughts are purposeful and intentional free of extraneous mind chatter that usually pervades our baseline state of consciousness. This clarity pervades to other sense modalities. Much love,

@DLH Thanks for bringing this up. Very glad I can address this. I am a fan of self-realisation just as much as the next guy. However I’ve always been lucky during my journey never to focus on it too much, and never to make a big deal out of it. Therefore when it came to me and became Permanently anchored in my reality, it was almost irrelevant. I know myself as the consciousness that I am that we all are, and yet nothing within me, and not even the person that I am, was ever dismissed as an illusion, because to say that is to ultimately disrespect yourself and your own self-worth (not to be confused with arrogant egoic patterning). The need and drive for self-realisation often becomes a way of escaping from ones personal journey of transformation. Simply because, the personal journey can be incredibly excruciating. Then claiming ‘there is no I’, is a form of self-rejection and becomes a mechanism through which We avoid taking personal responsibility and accountability for our own pain, and avoid our own emotional needs. Then it can become even crazier, when the one who has dismissed their divine autonomous personality and sovereignty starts going around telling others how there is no ‘I’ within them, which is a form of gaslighting. Imagine telling to a loved one who is crying in pain that they don’t exist. It is a form of cruelty, and an extraordinarily manipulative thing to do. The truth is that when we spend long periods of time in self-denial called ‘there is no I’, it will ultimately create a pressure within your body because you are consistently dismissing your own personal and emotional needs. If anything self realisation teaches us is how to be freely ourselves, and therefore have no barriers towards greater self-love, self-care, and to have the necessary resilience and self-responsibility to see our healing journeys through. So back to what you stated about questioning your inner child. May I bring to your attention that doing so is actually a way of avoiding your own needs. It ties nicely to what I said to Mu in an earlier comment, and that is that until we make our inner child a pivotal part of our experience, your self-realisation will be unintegrated, and it will be you trying to be ‘the consciousness of all’ ,at the expense of being your own person, instead of being the enlightened awakened consciousness on an ever expanding journey of healing and transformation embodying its light into physical form through the joy and privellege of being a person.