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@Dodo Babies are authentic and enlightened just because they exist? Enlightenment does not equal to existence in my dictionary and neither is the general definition. Enlightenment is "knowing thyself" and since babies and rocks have no self-awareness, then they are far from being awakened or enlightened. I don't know what are your sources for such ridiculous beliefs but they are really far away from the Truth.

These are such great points, And the problem is the majority of people don’t realise you can be 100% happy by yourself, and then a partner / relationship is simply an expression of tbis happiness & love. Look up Rupert Spira, he talks about awakened relationships a lot, and how we shouldn’t be using other people to make us happy, but only be with another being when we are happy ourselves. This frees the situation of many of our demands, and gives the relationship more chance to flourish. He talks about telling your partner- “I don’t need you for my happiness, but I want to be with you, out of choice, not because we need to.” I think that is so powerful, as it is the basis of true love, since you aren’t using each other to fill voids.

yeah I mean you can still be normal and date normal people and even unawakened people when you are awakened. Because your awakening and path to awakening is independent of any external circumstances

@Leo Nordin The main weakness of an online forum is we have very little actual information, and we have to go the extra mile to be humble enough to not lash out in projections. Awakening requires unimaginable levels of maturity, and the term is not to be trifled with. If this is your heart's path and you have awakened, I do not see a reason to hold back. If not, you will sink into a self-created hell. But I presume you know this since you are awake and this is just me pointing out the obvious. I'd appreciate if you kept us updated; yours is a journey unique.

@Nahm lol, you need to be perceptive to not be confused. Everyone misses the whole point, this post was not created for people to assume how awoke or not that I am. I meant to give the impression of that I already have awakened. And wanted input based on that. I don't know if any lf you have awakened that's why my wordings was changed to suit whom I was writing to.

@Persipnei No monesteries for me, never. I am not after persuit of spiritual development. More allowing myself enlightenment, that only I will do when survival is taken care of. @Yarco Omg no no no your assumptions about me are wrong. You need to be able to read between the lines. I told you that I have fucking awakened. This is not a small thing. Please at least assume that I might have awakened. Here is how I will have basic needs taken care off: I will live in a van and work very minimal 20-50h/month. That's it, the system will give me free/cheap education or put me in a get work program if I remain homeless and want help. Thats the back up plan, more or less.

I dont mean that love, haha. But yes, persue everything sounds interesting. @Leo Gura I have truly awakened, I mean seriously. Is there anything you want to share with me before I leave?

It's a choice whether it's hard or easy doesn't matter. Of course, I will work minimally for survival 20-50h/month or less! I live in Sweden and we don't have many entrepreneurs, there are many ways to make some money. My can will also be comfy. What is ever realistic if I were to become enlightened? I thought of saving money but that was before awakening. Leo you are knowledgable, if you can share tips/tricks for my journey of survival I would be thankful? It's extreme yes, a summer break won't do. "persuing enlightenment" is widely perceived in different ways. Because I have awakened it's a choice. Will I be enlightened right now or not. Ego is only good for survival. @No Self My van would be insulated and my body also creates heat, people have stayed warm in way colder climates in vans. I have knowledge, you don't need that much heat. Be careful if you're not awakened?

Why don't you try this lifestyle for a shorter period, like do it for the summer break and see how you like it. Dropping everything and going homeless seems pretty extreme and reckless. One thing I don't understand you say you've already awakened but you also say you want to go homeless to pursue enlightenent. So did you awaken or not ?

What I'm referring to as the path of enlightenment is a steadily increasing capacity to be present regardless of our circumstances. Most of us awaken to who we are, and then rather quickly return to unconsciousness for a time until we reawaken. The conditioned mind is relentless in demanding our attention, and even people that have awakened, frequently fall back into identifying with their mind. The practice is to stay conscious more and more, until we are always awake. The fruits of presence are enjoyed along the path. The more steadily awake we are, the less suffering we will experience. Eventually we reach the point where we are always still, and are permanently free of suffering:

@Thestarguitarist14 yes but I have already awakened, if im not fucking myself up with delusion haha. No but really. I am talking about living in a van, showering at gyms and using part time work money/money from my country for food. All my basic needs will be taken care of. Call it homeless, or a nomad or a spiritual retreat. I have 1,5 more years untill last year I can reapply for school for free if homelessness didn't go well. I will last a year with my current savings at most. At the age of 18 I get money from the government. Draw back is that all my savings may be lost and I may have to take a loan before I finish school if I come back and take that rout. Yeah I am going to drop out. Will just secure some kinds of income before hand.

Most homeless haven't awakened...

Not more than anyone else, I've always been a good student and had liked it to some extent more than most. Living half a life is just not worth it, not when you know what a full fledged life looks like, that's why I don't want to limit myself for much longer. I only do what's needed. Yes that's it? out of some reason people always question my texts, even though I wrote I HAVE AWAKENED. Hahaha Then it's obvious that I'm not being delusional?‍♂️ but yeah I'm young you all can question me. I also am using ego now, otherwise I wouldn't be asking for advice about going homeless lol, ego is good for survival, remember that.

It never felt difficult to me... Even in the absolute earliest stages of self improvement. I quess basef on time and all the internal changes to your beliefs about the world changing so much makes it an unbelievably difficult task for most people. They have too much ego and ignorance etc. It is nothing compared to the difficulty of school. Because school is the largest suffering creating machine in the world. School equals = lifetime suffering for the majority of people, because it creates ego constantly and if you unwire the ego they will force you back. For me there is no difficulty because I'm doing it on my own terms. I will probably quit school to become somewhat homeless soon. Keeping up ego abd suffering to stay in the system is somewhat difficult now when I've awakened.

I don't have any special problem with school. It just hinders me from being myself. It's quite sad that I consciously restrain myself from ecstasy all the time in school. One or two hours a day isn't enough. I am probably ready for what you call "hardcore" practice where I live unreasonably joyfull all the time. I awakened not long ago. Please give me perspectives from the awakened mind.

I realized there is no I only characters that it’s all just completely imaginary completely intentionally set up because I am god only through being no one can you be everyone , I realized that it’s completely done out of love too . I still haven’t had awakenings into many facets tho I’m not saying I’m awakened fully just that the satoris I’ve had are true and I’ve confirmed it many times so I don’t have any doubts that I’m god

You are "awakened" uhm?

Did anyone else awaken years before finding Leo ? I feel like it would have been a much more doubtful and different path if I had heard of awakening before I had awakened .

Be careful, what you want to do is live blissfully all the time. If you don't have actual experience coaching then it's a fantasy that your mind has created. This you certainly know if you're even close to being unitive. If you are in a ecstatic state while coaching then its good. If you have really awakened then you probably know what your talking about. Still I have 50% of my school in daycare/school and coaching might be difficult intuively. As quick as you start thinking too much you can't be unitive anymore especially if you are doing your work "proffessionaly", then you can't laugh when you shouldn't laugh etc. The burden from that is immense, holding yourself back from laughing and ecstasy/being yourself all the time. Be careful?

Meditation? What are effective techniques for my particular case? @LfcCharlie4 @Nahm So these are my thoughts: *Human beings need purpose and crave creative expression. Being only awakened and/or enlightened won’t solve a lack of satisfaction or fulfilment. Having a Life Purpose can make you achieve Self-Transcendence by moving up the Pyramid to Self-Actualization, then Self-Transcendence. Or move up to Stage Yellow from Orange or Green for example. From where you can have deeper awakening. It makes it easier to be awakened or enlightened as lower level needs have been handled. So it is best to have my Life Purpose handled before shooting for enlightenment as I have a lot of karma to exhaust/onions to peel (e.g. having a career, financial stability, passion for living, etc). Once my desires for those are exhausted, I can then move on to enlightenment.* Would this be accurate? We should be exhausting our desires before shooting for enlightenment as it’s very difficult, right? As if we are peeling onions? On a Spiral Dynamics forum, it mentioned that if you are a teenager, don’t even think about Tier 2 consciousness (Yellow, Turquoise, Coral, etc) as the huge lack of life experience would make it near impossible/very unlikely if you are the average person. Is this true? Would it be a good strategy for me to work on my Life Purpose for the next 10-15 years while still meditating everyday, then when I’m 25-30 I can pursue enlightenment as I’ve exhausted my desire for materialism and success? I know that these things won’t truly make me happy, but my ego still wants materialistic success. Could I just let go of this desire? Or would it be better for me to exhaust this desire, and from direct experience see that “Oh, this doesn’t really make me happy”, and then pursue enlightenment instead of just believing that it won’t make me happy? I want to work out a good strategy so I’m not second guessing myself here, what’s your guy’s suggestion?

Hey Everyone, I couldn't find a better place to put this so I decided to throw this out here. I just wanted to give my honest thoughts and feelings as to my journey of awakening through college, as well as some struggles in the hope of finding some like minds who could possibly help me out and maybe share their stories too. I'm in my second year of college now and I'm getting deep into the awakening process, ever since I got the time to do spirituality (because of you know what) I've really pursued it. The problem is that my transition back into college has been difficult, I'm finding it way harder to make friends and I'm beginning to feel even more isolated than I did when we first went into quarantine. Nonetheless, I kept pursuing spiritual awakening, and I know that Leo says that this is the path of the awakened minds, it is a lonely one, but I also feel like it's important for me to get some feedback on this. So what do you guys think, is it possible for me to find like minds in college? I really do believe that there are other's pursuing a very similar path that I'm on and it would help if I got some guidance from them. I remember I had a mentor early on but he left, so I've been on my own for a while now. Has anyone had a similar experience where they've gone deep down the rabbit hole but you feel like you're missing the world outside? It makes it even more difficult that colleges are purpose built to prepare you for That's just where I'm at, any thoughts would be appreciated!

Why do you consider only a few people - if any at all - "awakened" and the rest as "not awakened" when awakening is clearly not a binary thing? Why do you keep saying things like "You/they haven't experienced even 1% of (infinite) consciousness" when it is by definition impossible to ever grasp one percent of infinity? What is the point of trying to reach the bottom of something which is infinite and therefore has no bottom?

1. Do you think you will ever live as a "fully awakened self"? How far do you think you can advance spiritually in the future? 2. Do you think we will ever have a fully conscious/developed society? If not, how advanced do you think society could possibly be in the future? 3. Could you see your channel potentially helping lead to a massively awakened society and pushing real spirituality into the mainstream? 4. Do you think a conscious society could possibly exist with diverse cultures and religions also existing simultaneously? 5. Have you tried nofap/semen retention? If not, what are your thoughts on it? 6. What was the lowest point in your life? The highest? 7. Do your family and friends live a similar life to you? 8. Who is the most awakened individual you have ever encountered in your life? 9. What do you do every day? 10. How has your health been? Any improvements since your last update on it? 11. Do you believe in synchronicity/numerology and other obscure fields discussed by some spiritual communities? 12. What is your specific life purpose and plan for the rest of your life?

@Carl-Richard Good point. @Preety_India Yep, everyone has a different “ideal” of their dream life and that’s okay. For me, I love running businesses, I don’t need them to be happy, but I wake up everyday excited to work. (Only if it helps people, I couldn’t work in certain industries ofc) @aurum I actually agree with you, and think it goes far deeper than SD stages, and also involves things like personality & the type of person you are. Learning the Enneagram helped me understand & appreciate so many different perspectives & what makes different people “tick.” For example, Ramana Maharishi & Eckhart Tolle are Enneagram 9s- very peaceful, chill guys usually, (typical stoner) very naturally meditative is this type. But compare their style to say Nisgardatta who was bossy & authoritative because he was a type 8. So, in relation to your points, certain people, will be much happier with less (5s for example tend to be minimalists naturally) and more than happy with a “simpler” life, 7s (I’m a 7, Russell Brand is an extreme 7 lol) are much more “go, go, go” the active type who love to be doing things, so in your community scenario, the guys doing the busy work & running round with a coffee, whereas the 9s would be running the meditation & therapy sessions lol. But, I think you raised great points, and that’s where Green can really help balance Orange and realise there’s more to life than material pleasures- monetary, sexual, objects & more to life than the pursuit of individuality, a switch to a more collective approach helps people grow on a number of levels. I also think it helps wealthy people become more conscious & use their money more consciously, instead of hoarding. I mean let’s be real, nobody needs more than like $10M really once you have a few nice houses & cars etc, To us, the guys with 15 cars & 3 yachts & 7 mansions seem silly, but they are simply trying to fill a void with “stuff.” Now, dont get me wrong, we can all enjoy materiality & “Orange” things, and I’m certainly not demonising it, but it’s never going to make us happy, alone, kt can be fun, bring joy etc sure. And, yes My integrate Orange was aimed a lot more at younger “spiritual” people who can’t even hold down a job etc, your example I also know of, and I believe that comes from a more conscious choice, rather than having no money because they don’t have the skills to make money. To me, money = freedom, and the lower your living costs are, the less money you need for that freedom. I personally am in a wealth creation phase, and have plans to build wealth over the next few decades, but as I mentioned in another post, the idea is to always be investing in things I believe in & to always be giving back, I see no value in hoarding millions, but instead want to use money consciously. I can definitely see the value in giving up use of money, living on very little for those who want the simple / hermit / monk style of life, I am almost certain it’s not for me, but I am defo not shitting on anyone who wants to live that way, I don’t think there’s any “right” way for a “spiritual” being to live, but agree they would focus on more than just their individual needs. 2 examples of deeply awakened beings living “western” & “family” lives are Rupert Spira & Francis Lucille, so I think it can work either way for Green+ beings. (Id class these 2 as Turquoise) Wow, I rambled, sorry!

That's how I usually check "I am enlightened AMA" threads, purely based on compassion. Doesn't mean you agree with everyone, it means you are You. Both this expression and the question it was aimed at remind me of - Conscience. My own experience of what Conscience is and how this experience has changed as I have gotten older. To say an increase in conscience means also an increase in Being feels accurate to me. It also feels like the more shadow is removed from my consciousness/subconsciousness, the clearer I can hear the small, still voice, as the saying goes. But primarily Conscience reaches me through feeling. The more shadow work done, the cleaner the emotional center is, which results in increased accurate intuition. Clairvoyance is experienced in the beginning only as brief flashes. At most, the beginning is all I've reached and a shaky one at best. So I'm not implying any kind of great one time sweeping realization or attaining superpowers. ? To get rid of guilt is primary. Implanting in humanity the notion of inherent guilt is/was a horrible joke/spell/curse/whatever. I'm not implying psychopathy as a way of life but rather than guilt- remorse- is the correct feeling when I/we have caused harm or violated Conscience. You have awakened Conscience when you are you and not the reaction from the stern inner voice of the Superego telling us how naughty we've been. The Superego by its nature keeps guilt within the framework of our experience. This highlights the need for individuation which requires integration of our inner aspects which are contradictory or seemingly so. Morality changes from culture to culture and also over time through history. Awakened Conscience has universal unchanging empathy and compassion and is not as changeable as morals yet has a definite tone of responsibility. People who speak completely different languages can understand each other with the 'language of the smile'. I try to express from my being rather than my personality but ironically my inspired expressions can have the tone arrogance or of telling everyone what's what. So I add this little disclaimer of having unaware unconscious, blatant arrogance and hope rather that the reader hears me with their being rather than their mind as well as overlooking my run on sentences and inevitable typos.