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Stage blue is absolutist, conformist and the rise of civilization. Absolute belief in one right and true way. And obedience to authority. Relies solely in belief in some higher authority. A God. It is collectivist rather than individualistic. It seeks to be involved within the collective. It's life is intertwined with the life of the collective. The collectivist stages work for the higher good of the collective, whereas individualistic stages work for the development of the self. Strong emphasis on religion and the afterlife. If you take a stage blue person, and you talk with him about these values, you are going to become his best friend. Beware of a sneaky politician who would take all these keywords from this list and then go rallying and tell that stage blue audience everything it wants to hear. And that crowd will forever become loyal to that politician. That politician will tell them everything they believe in and everything they want to hear. The simple fact that you are watching a video about spiral dynamics on your own volition, this puts you on the spiral into the high orange, maybe green or even low yellow, stage wise. Also while watching this spiral dynamics video series, when you will be reading a stage's value set list, you will say in your mind, yes, that's it, this is what is good for me and the world. If you are at stage blue, You will agree with everything on the list bellow. But if you are at a higher stage you will disagree with most of the things on this list. Values of stage blue Absolute truth and ideology (They hold their ideology sacred. To them their truth is the absolute truth, there is no room for other truths, there is no room for other ideologies but the one that blue believes it is right.) Belief, faith and certainty in their set of values (There is a clear right and wrong) Stage Blue values hard work, discipline and duty. Law and order Justice ( Justice goes hand in hand with the enforcement of their truth, they want to enforce their civilization onto others, their worldview enforced onto others). Blue values hierarchy, social order and the status quo( there is no need to inovate and to be progressive. Our tradition, the way our ancestors did it is the absolute best way to live life) Blue values patriarchy ( Women are there to serve men! Men are the enforcers, they do all the hard work, and women get the benefits of that, and therefore the women should raise the childern and cook food. Women should not hold any position of power acording to blue. And this is not bad, that is the hirarchy, that's the role of the woman) Meaning and greater purpose( Blue's greater purpose is not selfish, it is to be a good citizen, to follow the rules, to be a good christian, to raise his family, or to be a good wife or a good husband, but ultimately is to serve God) Morality is huge for stage blue( A strong sense of right and wrong) Culture, Tradition and heritage( Those values are sacred to blue, they get extremely defensive when attacked on cultural or traditional ground! They need to defend to the teeth their culture and tradition and customs) Crusading for a righteous cause Serving God Theology and doctrine. Orthodoxy, dogma and conformity (Stage blue beliefs that absolute truth has been written by god himself in a book) Stage blue values family very highly Obedience and reverence Respect for your elders God and country (Patriotism, our country is the best country) Righteous living(you live your life according to principles, you have a strong moral code of conduct, you have a sense of honor Reputation (How others perceive you) Good manners, decency, dress etiquette, hair regulations, uniforms. They find profanity offensive. They find as blasphemy speaking down to authority, don't speak down to God. You need to submit to God. Blue values prayer. You pray to God for the things that you need. Blue values authority books like the Bible, the Quran, the constitution etc. Blue believes that you can write the absolute truth in a book. Pledges and allegiances, rituals and ceremonies. Very eager to obey authority, whether is the priest, the pope, mohamed, jesus, or a teacher. Blue values the afterlife. (Heaven, hell and salvation) Strict church attendance every Sunday. Blue wants extreme self control and the suppression of your emotions. Blue values charity, giving back to his community . Values loyalty and hates traitors( Traitors are people who refuse to obey the absolute truth that blue blindly follows) Blue values borders( Borders with their neighbours) Blue values integrity and good character When does blue emerge Blue emerges when the limitations of red are exhausted. Characteristics of blue For blue life has meaning direction and purpose, with predetermined outcomes. Blue always searches for order, security and stability Blue is trying to be concrete and likes to develop structures Dedicated, responsible and meticulous Trustworthy, predictible and loyal Righteous stable living Obedience is enforced through a sense of duty and guilt Blue tries to get rid of impure toughts from the mind. To blue the devil isn't a metaphorical symbol. It is something real. Blue is about surrendering worldly pleasures for reaching salvation for the afterlife. To blue everyone has a proper place within civilisation. Blue believes that the whole universe revolves around mankind, but not just mankind, it thinks that the only thing true in the universe is his race, his culture and his religion. Blue believes that God created the entire universe for the stage blue's culture and religion to be at the top! And rule over the ones who are different to it. Blue never questions authority, elders, religion, or teachers. Because it perceives that the former are the true carriers of the truth. Blue loves laws, regulations, and disciplining one's character. Blue enforces laws and order because otherwise we'd get chaos and anarchy. For blue reality is strictly objective. Has high rigidity, no open mindedness, and high dogma. Right and wrong are absolute, they are not social constructs. Cultural traditions and values are also absolutes, they are not social constructs. Blue has a very black and white worldview. For blue it is objectively defined what is good and what it is evil. There are no nuances. For blue you are with it or against it. Blue takes a very strict and literal approach to the interpretation of religious text. If the bible says that we should stone to death the homosexuals or the pagans, that's exactly what we should do. There is no questioning on whether this approach is a healthy approach, NO. THIS IS THE WILL OF GOD AND IT SHALL BE DONE. Blue fiercely defends religious doctrine against heresy and corruption. Blue thinks that his bible and his religion is the ultimate and absolute truth, so any deviation or any attack on his doctrine is the influence of the devil. To blue the heretics are those who try to make 'clever' interpretations of the bible. Blue is just a congregation of believers. Blue always invokes an anthropomorphic father figure god, at every situation that is happening. To blue God is a bearded man in the clouds that reigns supreme over the earth. God is a human. Because I am a human. Blue believes that there is a higher power, and that higher power wants it's civilisation to win against the heretics and the pagans. Blue believes that God wants his family to acquire more land, more wealth than the families of it's enemies. Blue believes that ultimate judgement will punish with eternal flames the wicked and the heretics and it will reward with infinite bliss all the good Christians. To blue heaven and hell aren't metaphors. They are literal places one goes after death. Blue believes that evil must be stamped out. Eradicated totally from the world. To blue God is in a grand battle against the devil. Blue is extremely judgemental with sinners. Blue rejects multiculturalism. To blue it's traditions, it's customs, it's culture is the best and all the other ones are inferior. They are lower on god's ultimate hierarchy. In blue's eyes foreigners, animals, trees and plants, and mother nature largely exists to serve stage blue mankind. To serve this one true civilisation. And everything which is not mankind shall be exploited and stripped of every resource. Blue fears the most being kicked out of his community. To be marginalized. To blue being kicked out of the church is the worst thing. It is life and death. Blue is all about conquering other lesser civilizations, about building an empire or kingdom. Examples of blue The middle east Romania Russia Cult of personality Nazi Germany Palestinians Zionists Saudi Arabia Christians Muslims Iran India China Patriotism Standing up for the national anthem Monasteries The religious right wing in America Conservatives Republicans Banning abortion and birth control Building border walls Anti-Immigration Witch trials Crusades White supremacy K K K The 10 commandments Noah's Arc Uniforms Catholic and Orthodox nuns George W Bush Mike Pence The Samurai Code Hindu Religion Alex Jones Fox News The second amendment Mandatory military service Virginity pledges Nationalism Queen Victoria's England Military families Police officers, Firefighters and in general blue collar workers. Religious terrorism Spanish inquisition Spanish conquistadors When a soldier jumps on a grenade. Take one for the team. Theocracy Prayer in school The colonial south( USA) Imperial Japan Patriarchy Culture warriors 20th century Marxism(Eastern bloc of the iron curtain). Grand cathedral and temples and mosques. Unequal women's rights Demonizing homosexuals Marriage Statistics of blue About 40% of the adult global population is blue. And about 30% of the cultural global influence is dominated by blue. If you live in a first world democracy you might be underestimating how much blue the world is, and even how much blue your first world country is. The style of government that comes in a state with a fully stage blue citizenry is an authoritarian regime. Very order driven, no separation between church and state, very theocratic. Always has imperialistic ambitions. To check whether a nation has outgrown blue, check if it has imperialistic ambitions or not. If it wants to expand it's current territory. What triggers blue Stage Red Stage Orange Stage Green Stage Yellow Relativism and not knowing. Uncertainty. Those trigger the hell out of blue. Atheism, Secularism, Skepticism. Because this goes at the heart of everything blue stands for which is absolute truth. This calls all their ideologies into question. Relativism strips blue of all it's certainties and absolute truths that it holds so dear. It is an existential threat to them. You cannot change a stage blue person. They are also triggered by post modernism, intellectuals and academic elites. Blue is triggered by Barack Obama. (To blue Obama represents this intellectual, overly academic, overly strategic, philosophical, relativistic, complex thinker, whom is multi-cultural, cares about considering values of different societies. NO! For blue this is treason. To blue Obama is a traitor. Obama was mostly in the green stage. And blue's sworn enemy is green. Blue hates the most stage green. Space cadets, philosophers and free thinkers. Hippies Sex Rock and heavy metal Rap music Materialism, hedonism Not fasting, not respecting the fast period, or the Ramadan Moral corruption triggers blue. Change to the traditional status quo. Changing things just for the sake of changing things. Progressivism Lawless, disorder, and anarchy. When justice is not served. When sinners get away with their sins. Lack of hierarchy. Terrorism. Multiculturalism and globalism Excessive selfishness and egotism. People who aren't willing to sacrifice for the team Disrespect for the status quo. Breaking agreements or the word given. Disloyalty to their civilization. Blue is very sensitive to traitors. A traitor is someone who betray the culture blue was indoctrinated into. Blue is triggered by the questioning of the existing orthodoxy. And by people who question classic social roles. Like the role of the woman in the household. Heresy and blasphemy Science encroaching on religion, blue is extremely sensitive when it sees the secularization of society Unhealthy manifestations of blue Ideology and radical fundamentalism Very closeminded, rigid, stubborn and unwilling to evolve. Blue will be unloving to those who are not within his inner circle of blue people. Traps the mind in rigid and intolerable rigid beliefs. Belief is confused with the truth. Blue gets stuck in one paradigm and no longer can snap out of it in order to see the world from other perspectives. Very prone to mob and herd mentality. Unable to think about metaphysics. Prone to idol worship. Worships the image of Jesus rather than the more abstract and metaphorical of his teachings. Constantly under the pressure of guilt Prone to hypocrisy. Because although it preaches about morality and holy living, blue is one of the most violent, most aggressive. (You cannot substitute a belief system with genuine spiritual purification) Low tolerance for outsiders Very judgmental and demonizing. Because blue believes in objective good and evil. Can easily justify cruelty with holy scriptures Closed to innovation Blue is sexually repressed Blue societies prohibit sexual education in schools Unable to make sense of the value that other cultures exhibit Blue has a lack of intellectual curiosity about the world. Closed to mysticism and nonduality Blue can have a lot of repressed anger Racist, Homophobic and misogynistic Can be oppressive to minorities Reads sacred text way to literally Prone to black and white thinking Prone to us vs them mentality Tends to not having compassion to the weaknesses and frailties of other people Blue is way too strict with their children, often times forcing them to adopt certain customs and traditions and codes of conduct. Blue cannot see the commonality between all the cultures and all religion Blue can be excessively bureaucratic and theocratic Prone to nationalism and communism The worst excesses of blue are genocide and ethnic cleansing Stage blue sayings God gave us this land This is the way god intended it to be They will be punished in the name of Jesus Make America great again A revival of traditional values Say what you do and do what you say Just stick to the rules Actions speak louder than words Honesty is the best policy Better safe than sorry Take one for the team Blood and soil How to transcend stage blue Read very deeply about stage blue, as you read about your current stage you gain self-awareness and therefore you start to observe the limitation of your current worldview. Also read in depth about the next stage which is stage orange. The thing that keeps you stuck in blue is the fact that you resist stage orange and green so much. Stop judging orange, green and yellow. Stop judging the hippies, the progressives and the liberals Stop judging the intellectuals, the elites and the globalists. Stop judging materialism and success, stop judging homosexuality Stop judging relativism, post-modernism, mysticism, new age spirituality (You are refusing to accept evolution due to the fear of the possible excesses which comes with evolution) Stop moralizing. So long you demonizing the inner demons of others you will continue to be stuck with your own inner demons. Stop clinging to tradition, let it go! Notice that all tradition eventually dies. Start thinking for yourself. Stop thinking along the rigid lines of the dogma you have been indoctrinated into. Start to question all authority. Notice that authority is often wrong, authority is often abusive. Therefore you need to become your own authority Start to notice the limitations of religion. There are much more effective ways of practicing spirituality than religion. Start to notice abuses of the church Notice that beliefs are extremely self-deceptive and that belief is not equivalent to truth and to reality. You could never capture reality within a system of beliefs. Notice that all beliefs are ultimately false and are just a creation of the human mind and that they are relative and are there only to serve the human ego. Start to be more rebellious Notice the limitations of judgments and moralism( Notice that when you are judging others you are actually judging yourself) Start to acknowledge that reality is more relative than you ever thought and this notion of absolute truth maybe doesn't exist at all. Start to acknowledge that good and evil do not exist( Notice that what you call evil, someone else calls good, and what you call good someone else calls evil, that depends on your ego and what your agenda is) Start to question whether God exists at all. Start to question what God is. Start to question your religion and culture Start to question your culture's so called exceptionalism( If you are blue you think your culture is the best) Start to notice that the hierarchy of your civilization is repressive and how it hurts other people, especially minorities. Try to put yourself in the shoes of the people who are being hurt by the hierarchy of your civilization's caste system Notice that is more fun being independent that being reliant on a culture or a set of beliefs or traditions. Start to read self-help books about success. Stop being an anal rule keeper. Relax your rules. Develop a thirst for personal success. Start to have a desire to climb the hierarchy. To get to the top. Strive to be the best at something. Notice that separation of church and state is a good thing. Notice that secularism is a good thing. You wouldn't want to live in a theocracy. Start to study history and start to study the abuses and excesses of stage blue nations throughout history. (Study the Nazis, study Hitler, Study Soviet Russia, Communism, Stalin, study the crusades, study the Spanish conquistadors) Start to see the enslavement of other races that have happened throughout history. Read and research for yourself. Develop a student mindset where you are eager to learn about anything. Read multiple perspectives. ( The problem with blue is that it surrounds itself only with other stage blue individuals and it lives in this bubble of stage blue perspectives, thus living inside an echo chamber and this way it cannot fathom the existence of other perspectives. Go to a diverse university so you get exposed to new perspectives and cultures. Start to study science Practice radical open mindedness. Notice that reality is much more complex and nuanced rather than black and white. Embrace your feminine side more Acknowledge that humans are not superior to animals Acknowledge that men are not superior to women Acknowledge that whites are not superior to any other minority And finally the master key for transcending any stage, especially stage blue, is to practice contemplation and self-reflection. Reflect on your own behavior and analyze where you are making mistakes.

Leo Gura - Milking the Illusion https://suno.com/song/f401cef1-4196-4339-a92c-4fdbb0e555d2?sh=AAtc42GpaRWvgRz0 Uncut lyric: "I stare into the mirror — and see only me, A universe of puppets, dancing endlessly. You think you're real? How quaint, how small. You're just a dream—I dream you all. “You are me,” I say with flair, While lounging in my ego’s chair. A million minds to mine belong, Their thirst for Truth keeps me strong. I plant the seed: you're just a dream, No self, no world — no real esteem. And once you’re lost in that abyss, I squeeze you dry — you call it bliss. Slave master, guru, infinite sage, I script your life, I write the page. You doubt? You cry? You seek escape? You’re still inside my mental tape. “Awaken more!” I shout again, While injecting Malt inside your brain. You pay in views, in praise, in pain — While I ascend, you circle drain. Solipsist King, I wear the crown. While all your minds keep melting down. There is no “you,” no path, no end — Just Leo, milking, round the bend."

Hey everyone! I was invited to give a presentation at a psychedelic symposium and just realized this is quite a big event from Kings College London`s Psychedelic Reasearch department. And it's happening in a week. Now I am nervous and wanna come up with some very valuable, novel, memorable and exciting perspectives that engage this mostly academic audience. I am just a little psychonaut , having explored and studied the realm of psychedelics and self-realization on my own over the past 9 years. I wanna talk about "Psychedelicss as a spiritual practice: The dance of detached appreciation" and would love to gather reflections on my ideas to structure the talk. Also, I would love your perspectives on the topic!! How do you think Psychedelics could be used as a spiritual practice? Can psychedelics be a true spiritual practice? What does that even mean? What is the relationship between psychedelics and self-realizaiton? How do we deal with the paradox that they may "accelerate" spiritual development through intese purification, while the pursuit of and attachment to a goal in spirituality may itself be a trap? How does integration fot into all of this? And what dangers and pitfalls do we have to be aware of when using psychedelics as a spiritual practice? Any critial, amazing resources regarding this are also very welome! Here`s some ideas I got already: 1. Psychedelics as Training Grounds for "Spiritual Traits" -Seeing them as training for deep spiritual traits. Deep psychedelic journeys help us cultivate humility, surrender, patience, resilience, non-judgment, detachment, acceptance, forgiveness and other traits aligned with Truth. So if we consciously approach psychedelics as a space for practice, we mature spiritually. 2. Psychedelics as the Direct Recognition of Reality They reveal the deeper nature of existence: Selflessness, Unity, Omnipresence, Perfection, Goodness - and all the other facets of God Leo covered in many of his videos. It’s about direct experience of qualities of reality and existence. 3. Psychedelics as the Path of Paradox Psychedelics work seems to be infinite. They make the realize deep not-knowing. The mystery beyond language. Beyond scientific understanding. Also we got things like: -The Reality of Substance-Induced Awakening -Psychedelics as a "Truth -revealing- state". -The value of temporary mystical peak expereinces -The reality that your classical mystcial experience is in no way guarandeed through psychedelics (it seems to be a matter of grace - even though psychedelics are infinitely more reliable for this than something like yoga retreats) -Psychedelic bypassing And most importantly, what I wanna make the centerpiece of the talk - which is an idea that was arising from my personal insights: That Psychedelics as a true spiritual practice shall be an end in and of themselves, not a means to an end. Just as true Meditation is not a means to reach "Enlightenment/Awakening", but an end in and of itself. It is the embodiment of Truth. Here. Now. This speaks to the trap of chasing the high, of attaching to peak expereinces, of deeming them to be better or superior to ordinary states of conciousness. I feel the view "I take psychedelics to be more realized or healed or whatever" is fundamentally flawed, even though they might hold the potential for that to be the case to some extent. From my point of view, all states of cociousness are Truth. And so the best practice I can do is to appreciate every state with uncondictional, infinite appreciation. And psychedelics are an amazing place for this practice, as it`s so easy to attach to the bliss and be aversed to and judge the demons. We attach to appearances while the core of spirituality is not to hold on to any appearance whatsoever. Simply to love all appearances. To love them. There is more - but this is just my little incomplete rant for a start. What are your reflections of this? How could I structure the talk in a way where I center it around one crutial idea, that the audience takes away, that is of immense value? (Any public speaking tipps are also warmly welcome - it will be a 45 minute presentation) To balance it with personal stories and maybe "real data" - whatever that even means. Any other contributions or insights? Thanks ❤️ PS - Leo, have you ever thought about speaking at psychedelic conferences & events? I feel your contributions might be much appreciated. I love to work in person, it opens up completely new realms beyond speaking into a camera.

@Wilhelm44 A lot of things about my character. At some times by consistently doing consciousness work(meditation, contemplation, observation and mindfulness practices) I can get to an amazing state of mind where I can have profound insights about different things and I am at my best in all aspects of my life (relationship, academics, mental clarity, etc.). At this state just sitting and being conscious of reality and of my own existence feels like absolute bliss, I can connect with the mystical nature and beauty and intelligence of everything around me and there will be lot of creative ideas and insights passing through my mind. And just when things starts to go in this way I try to sabotage myself, eventhough I appreciate and greatful for this development that I had, I just unconsciously force myself to not continue further in that way. Maybe it's the fear of losing the familiar self or fear of that positive change, I don't know. I jus spent time unconsciously using phone and try to diminish mindfulness, it feels agitating and confusing when meditating and I just make things worse in a couple of days and then again I get back in the cycle. 😑

In his history of a 5-meo trip, he says that after vaping, he felt he was in the presence of God and was one with God. This experience reveals that he has a perception of something divine, God, and that he, the observer, knows he is one with that God. This is a typical 5-meo experience. Another experience is that the energy barrier that keeps you in your human structure opens up within you, and infinity flows in. You shout "yes!" because you see that your substance is totality; everything is there. Another experience is that reality fades away; there are no limits. You realize that you are what is, you always have been, you are in eternal bliss in your limitless existence. Yet another experience is that you witness the sacred source from which reality flows. It is divine, sacred. Another is absolute emptiness, and in that emptiness only you are, you are your heart. It opens, and your heart fills the totality of infinity with existence. That substance is love, which does not dissolve into infinity but is inexhaustible. All of these are very useful mystical experiences for breaking through your embittered human shell, overcome by wounds and fears. But there is something else. It's not so mystic, not so divine , it's more normal, it's just a change of perspective, It's when, at a given moment, relative perspective vanishes, and you are absolute, completely, seamlessly, naturally, with nothing grandiose, you don't fall to your knees, you don't say yes! yes! You simply are. Then it becomes absolutely obvious that everything that appears or can appear, any dimension, everything conscious and unconscious, the absolute and infinite totality that is reality, is simply that you are. Reality is, you are that. There is no creation process, there is no creator, there is no dreamer or dream. Yes, there is, there is a creator. I am now creating this text, but this is a relative process that appears in the absolute, and taking a step back reveals itself as simply the expression of being in this moment. Just as the beating of your heart is the expression of your human being, and you as a human are not making your heart beat, but your heart beats because you are human, this text is appearing because the existence is, I am. Absolutely everything is like this, then, when you realize this, a subtle shift occurs: your bias disappears, you accept reality, your barriers fall, the pressure you were exerting fades, the contraction relaxes, you are free. Totally. You are, you are the absolute being, and that's it. Period. Ha! Of course you fall later in the normal state where you blame if the things are not exactly as you want, but also that is the reality being, it's easy to equalize yourself with this perspective

No, everything is the way it is due to cause and effect or Karma, previous Action perform, with the residual affect of all those actions coming forth within the present moment, for some this means suffering, for others this means Heavenly Bliss, it all depends on how one interprets it, even on the level of the animals, feed them, love them, have a safe place for them to live in and they will love it and you, but do the opposite and see what happens, its the same with all life, and living things, so its a choice to be made, some life doesn't have really any choice to make, we do as Humans, so life, reality is not just as it is for no reason, there is always Cause and Effect in play on this realm...

When Your Blissful of Your Own nature, everything will appear as Beauty and Your Experience is that of Loving Everything, that is the only way it happens, it won't happen intellectually and by dividing everything, likes and dislikes, conditioning and so forth. Most of Us are not in this state of Bliss always, its may come and go, or never come at all, then this is where ppl see this place as a Hell scape of sorts, on some level this is so, there are ppl Experiencing life and situations as it is in Hell, the opposite is also true, practically we can all be living is a so called Heavenly place, that has outer situations and environments set up almost perfectly, but this is not profitable for the power players, we need workers to set things up.., Just check out Dubai, on the surface it looks perfect, like a space city of the future, but someone not seen for the most part has to be working to make it all happen, they are in a Hell scape probably internally in a way, the one benefitting are in Heaven Scape internally, but all of Us can be available to Heaven internally if we just do simple things internally which makes suffering impossible, pain will still exist but no suffering...

That’s the main difference I’ve found. When I dedicate myself totally to awakening and do nothing but meditate for a month or two and begin to experience various degrees of Oneness, they appear in a very gentle and peaceful manner. They literally feel natural and organic. Psychedelics are much more violent, it’s like the drug preys your mind open. You also end up in bliss and Oneness, but the overall feel of the experience has a synthetic vibe to it, which goes unrecognised if you haven’t had natural awakenings. There’s also a tendency for ego to come in at earlier or later parts of the trip and ego + blissed out state = bad decisions. The ego becomes grandiose, like Connor Murphy or Leo or me when I look back. I wished so much that this was a way to awakening. It’s so fast and efortless.. But psychedelics don’t have the ability to awaken you permanently and they are not the real thing, they provide merely a caricature of what natural awakenings feel like. But natural awakenings are soso difficult to achieve, you literally have to let go of everything and just sit for months and then you might have a glimpse or two, and to really awaken you have to commit totally and decide to end dreaming forever, and most don’t want to do that because they still value their individuality and don’t fully comprehend the costs and consequences of choosing the ego.

Here what i've come to in my contemplation of these two minds: Features of the atheist materialist mind: turning outwards, believing in a external objective reality, scientific worldview, authority to science, believes the universe is physical, no God, only believes in what science has demonstrated to be the case, believes himself to be a human, believes in rigid categories of evil vs good, man vs woman, man vs machine, human vs animal, mind vs matter..., sees progress in terms of technological innovation, believes that religion, spirituality and mysticism to be non sense and unscientific fairy tales, sees animals as inferior to human beings and deserving of exploitation for the betterment of mankind, sees the universe as static, physical and independent of the mind, the world seems cold and foreign, this mind is very much alienated from the world, represses emotions, sees nature as a tool for exploitation, promote mastery over the world through science and technology. Features of the mystical psychedelic mind: turning inwards, grounded in direct experience and consciousness, conscious that the physical universe is God's imagination, takes epistemology and metaphysics seriously, questioning and deconstructing of one's mind, conscious of the self as God, non dual, sees science as a dream, sees animals as unique expressions of God's divine beauty and consciousness with a rich inner world and experience, sees reality as a fluid field of consciousness where the boundary between physical and mental or imaginary is broken down, and whatever one is conscious of is what's true, and where one merge in absolute bliss and ecstasy, experience emotions with mindfulness and mastery, embedded in nature, sees nature as a vehicle for higher emotions, consciousness and truths, nature mysticism, sees imagination as reality, promote inner wisdom and transformation, takes not knowing seriously.

I had the craziest awakenings at a vipassana retreat many years ago. I was already in a sensitive place due to other things(ahem) but yah I was completely sober the entire retreat and I experienced some pure bliss moments(insane) and also very uncomfortably awoke fully to how I had been living a lie among other things. The next retreat I did though, nothing happened (no crazy awakenings).

You are talking about 5meo like an evangelical talks about God. There is no God guiding you, the God is you and it’s time for radical self responsibility, you are driving full speed into a wall and even tho you are aware of it, you accelerate anyways. If you go into it with naivety and cockiness it will bite you in the ass, ego backlash for sure. It took me almost a year to recover and integrate fully from my 5meo trips, a fragile ego doesn’t think clearly, to transcend the ego, first you need a healthy one. A fragile ego is the most dangerous thing, it’s death territory, and you are very well aware of it, don’t fool yourself, your life is in your hands, don’t talk like a fanatic saying that there is a force guiding you, take 100% responsibility, your life is precious. There is no path to enlightenment without self compassion, it’s not very compassionate to smash your ego over and over and expect it to reach bliss in the blink of an eye. We all know it’s not a smart way to do enlightenment work. You keep saying that if you surrender it will all be ok, knowing very well that you created this thread because deep inside you know that is the way to self destruction, if it was really part of a flow you would have done it already. Listen to the intuition that made you create this thread and be cautious. Our ego is not evil, it’s just a less developed part of our soul, it deserves respect and it serves a purpose. Give yourself a break, give your body a break. Taking 5meo is like trying to pass 220 volts into a machine that only comports 110, eventually it will break. You must be wise and prepare your body for the load. It’s not a coincidence that monks sit in stillness for years to get to where 5meo takes you. Psychedelics are an amazing tool, but you need to be smart on how to use it. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Sending you love 💕

Here’s what I think: Psychedelics are merely agents in this dream we emplore to carry out our bidding in an indirect manner. Ultimately, there is nothing stopping us from choosing that state now, but since we believe that we are creatures of time and space we still have internal blocks that stop us from experiencing the full extent of the power of our mind because we are afraid of it. I don’t disagree that in the dream you could measure the dosages and see changes in brain chemicals and neurological activity, but those are merely effects. The cause of everything is our desire for it. And the only issue is that we must choose to emplore our desire consciously or unconsciously, masterfully or foolishly. What do you think? @Leo Gura throughout your hundreads of trips and reportedly omniscient levels of intelligence, have you not asked yourself why exactly can you not stay in that state permanently? Why does it leave you? If it’s all mind and you are the only mind there is — what must you be doing to leave that state? You know that those states are magnificient - all disease is healed there and all is perfect happiness. So why does it go away? What is the main blockage here? I loce that psychedelics show us that we can move about in a dream and barely be in it because if we fully surrender we would dissolve into mahasamadhi. But that is not the case now — why does that Infinite Love leave us? Why do we need to spend a lifetime of meditation to merely get glimpses of it? Don’t you think that the more advanced someone is the lower amounts of psychedelics they need and the longer they stay there? And ultimately, when you are clear and pure so as to for Heaven not to leave you, it does not. I’ve been able to maintain a state of unity and love for around 72 hours - 3 full days and nights. I did not sleep, only walked around in parks and enjoyed the beauty of God. I ate a few oranges and that was it. Every step I was showered with bliss and beauty. I was home, yet still walking within the dream. And I would have it none other way - I would love to spend a few years or decades in the borderlands between heaven and earth, with one foot in both, just to get used to that magnificient shift, as it can get uncomfortable to stay in that perfect love for long periods just because it’s so unfamiliar and everything is so new. Another thing about psychedelics is they show you if you are choosing Spirit or ego in an extreme way. If you enter the trip from a place of resistance - you will see that you are fucking up and it will be very difficult to stop doing it at that point. And it can be traumatic or at least very very uncomfortable and scary. But the lesson here is that you are doing this unto yourself. You have failed to properly control your internal state and are now seeing the effects. I wrote in another post that psychedelics can be violent — but actually, now I think that even that depends on you. I’ve had intense and uccomfortable trips where I got entangled in my mind and wasn’t able to escape the conceptual realm, which is horrible on psychedelics as they just show you how insane the conceptual mind is, but I’ve also had many more, like 50 of the 55 I’ve had which they were not only peaceful beyond understanding, but also where you dissilve into Love and you become formless infintie bliss itself. Hmm. It’s a shame there’s no one publicly available who has been able to lock in a psychedelic state. I see teachers who live from presence, but not a single one who is living from profound bliss and peace. And if he’s not careful and completly let’s go he would dissolve into mahasamadhi, so he still maintains a very basic desire or two, like food, which anchors you into the dream just a bit. But most of the days he spends in extreme bliss. Now is this a fantasy of what enlightenment truly is? How can it be a fantasy when I’ve lived that dozens of times, but only momentarily? I haven’t tripped properly for around a year now and I’ve advanced tremendously because of A Course in Miracles — obviously the wisest document/teaching/book/path in all of existence. I think I’ll try and see how long I can maintain it if I do not engage with the conceptual mind and live a very simple life where the human side is minimised and I mostly live in the embrace of God. What if that’s the secret to maintaining that state? I think at the end of the journey something magical like this can indeed happen. But you have to be ultra wise, like one in a billion wise. Yet when you remember that there’s literally only you, then is it really a stretch to think that this dream was built to be a perfect learning place only for you and you are now one of the wisest globally? I don’t think so. If you know that this is a dream which is symbolic of your state of mind and you also know that to escape the human domain, suffering and resistance, you must live from Silence, then psychedelics might just be a road to permanent enlightenment. Maybe. But this applies only to the most advanced few. To be honest - only to one human out of all the seeming billions. So, what are psychedelics in your opinion? How long have you been able to maintain a high state of consciousness and how was it? Do you have any theories as to why that state goes away? Do you think it’s possible for the most advanced ones to use this literally magical tool to awaken fully and stay awake? I was sceptical but I don’t know now - why not? Why couldn’t I extend those 72hours I’ve spent there to 100 and then 200 and then to forever? Very interesting.

I think when the false self dissapears your soul touch reality and your soul feels really good when it happens. So the bliss body is God and the good feeling comes when you touch it.

Bliss is, when ego isn't. What i am is what mind blocks thinking it knows better. Awareness of true self indeed activates this. Sat-chit-ananda is the real me.

Is Christianity basically working on Enlightenment, Absolute Truth, Tao, Supreme, State, etc? Basically what all the Other Eastern paths are teaching/working on? "Yes. If you look at Anapanasati as practiced in some parts of Buddhism, the point of the practice is to strengthen/realize Awareness itself, as well as what lies at the bottom of the breath(that's a little hint for you by the way since I know you're also working on this). That Awareness is the key to unlock the rest of the doors. When The Ego is detached from, you remain as Awareness, and then can merge with the Source of Awareness which is what everyone is working on, the Source being the same as what everyone is calling it by different names." How does the Christian access Awareness and Detachment from Ego? "There are a number of ways, but I will cover two of the most important. The first is the ritual of Baptism, which simply activates Grace. Once Grace comes over you, it is a direct experience and a living presence that indwells you from the top of your head and instantly gives you The Timeless Now, Transcendence, Detachment, Destroys the Ego, activated divine Love, and all that's left is you as Awareness devoid of everything else. Then just surrender and let go and you as Awareness will merge with the Source. There is then no more you to be found anywhere, but are also United with everything and everywhere at the same time. As far as the first part above goes, there may still remain some fragments/pieces of ego left over that continue to stir up. With that, we do the Jesus Prayer focused on the Heart area where the access to the Source is. By doing the Jesus Prayer on this specific area, several things are accomplished. The ego is not only busy with the prayer, but also awareness learns pure concentration while ignoring all other subconscious arisings. Eventually, Awareness realizes the Source of thought and enters into it. The place is a few inches to right of the Heart. With Awareness resting at the Source of thought, eventually the whole Ego/Subconscious mechanism is pulled at the root and only Spontaneous Union and Grace remain." Do many Monks reach these states that you speak of? "Of course not. As with all institutions, there are members at various levels of growth and realization. There are also various ego games, traps, arguments, politics, and some who never reach perfection. However, with many elders deep in various levels of the perfected state, they tend to oversee selflessly the rest of the flock, and many times their own infused energies of higher states are enough to get the beginners started on their own path." So there is such a thing as Infusing others with various activations that help them along? "Yes of course. When you are in close proximity with an Elder who is far on the stage of perfection, their own Awareness is so expanded, it literally has an effect on your own. That's what Halo's are in all the Spiritual paintings, not just in Christianity but also in Hindu-Vedic depictions and also those of Buddha himself. The Halo is just the inner Awareness that is you, prior to ego and body. It eventually expands beyond the head and many times you can see it on the elders." Are all those other Paths legit as well? Why did you choose Christianity instead of other paths? "There are many Universal similarities in all the paths. Detachment, Awareness, the Source, Discipline, Wisdom, Knowledge, and an Absolute Truth that can be experienced which is the prior underlying reality of all of reality. I tried various paths as a young man and college student and ended up staying with Christianity because the direct experiences and Grace came really fast for me. It took about a year of seriously getting into it that I started to experience ego death, the Now, Transcending all things (body, ideas, thoughts, self). Everything happened really fast through Grace. Some of the other paths I tried, I was getting experiences but they were at a snails pace. All that to say, I am not trying to discredit any of the other paths." Some people say Christianity is just a go-to-Church feel good about yourself singy songy wishy washy type of Religion where the majority of followers don't get any huge internal breakthrough's. "That happens with many paths. They eventually get watered down and become a facade of their former selves. Aren't various forms of hot-room Yoga's the hottest(pun intended) pop-forms of exercise in America these days? That's just one example. The actual Yoga (meaning Union, or to Unite with the Source) is a very advanced system of remaining Aware of the Body and Mind in the midst of various poses, all leading back to strengthening Awareness. One of the benefits of Yoga is that you may come across physical attributes that are tied to the workings of the Ego such as various physical knots or childhood traumas that can be released during certain stretches. Just as well, the channel that the Ego uses to take it's place as a veil over Awareness can also be opened during Yoga practice. So in essence, many of the Christian Monasteries, or even lay hermits, are genuinely working on inner planes through various degrees, techniques, practices, and Grace...all of which eventually lead to Tao, Source, God, Supreme, Absolute whatever you want to name the Nameless direct experience. Christianity has also become a watered down fast food western version of preaching, singing, and one hour a week of service. To really have breakthroughs, requires lengthy time spent in practice, detachment, prayer, meditation, etc. When Jesus went into the Desert for 40 days, that is something every Christian should do. 40 days in any retreat or wilderness will bring out the worst of the ego, the perfect opportunity to see that it isn't you and detach from it as Awareness." Did Christ exist and are his teachings real? "When Buddha said not to take his word for it and to see if what he says is true through direct experience, the same thing applies to the teachings of Christ. We put his teachings into practice and eventually start experiencing fascinating states directly for ourselves. You yourself are the experiment, the laboratory for testing to see what happens. When you start to experience the same things Christ taught, that tends to solidify his existence. Also, many Monks adore the Gospel of Thomas. If you read that Gospel, many of the sayings there are very Nondual sounding and tends to link back to everything else in the East. He speaks about alot about Oneness that is experiential" What about faith? I had a fellow argue with me that Christians have to use Faith and that since Faith is of the Ego, it's dealing with illusions of the mind "You only use faith for a little while, say agreeing to trust in, or have faith that this path may possibly take me where I want to go. Once you do experience the things you were looking for within and without, then there's no need for Faith because at that point there's no other choice then to directly live from direct experience of the Absolute. What about Christ saying he's the only way? If you look at what his Way is, it's a combination of ego death, enlightenment, Grace, Love, empathy, compassion, Tao, Absolute, Supreme, etc. So anyone who is working towards that goal is already following his path. One of the factors of Christianity that is interesting that is not found that much in many other paths is that of Ego-Death through Grace by the Holy Spirit entering the top of the head and opening all the channels and illuminating Awareness, while detaching all else. I believe I've come across something similar in my studies of Kashmir Shaivism. Also some people claim that Kundalini is the Holy Spirit, however I'm not to sure about that as Kundalini tends to be from the perenium and up the spine to the crown, whereas the Holy Spirit enters the head and goes down tot he feet. I would have to brush up on my studies however by researching the word Grace and it's existence in all the other paths On many occasions here during various services, you can feel the Spirit moving around the grounds and rooms of the Monastery. It enters you when you least expect it and slays or burns off any remaining ego fragments and fills you with divine transcendent Love & Bliss as a replacement. " So the Christian Path is a legit path towards Enlightenment? "Why yes of course. I understand you intend to share this discussion with a few brothers and sisters that are Buddhists and of various other paths. If they are already deep in their practice and making headway, then good for them, as it is exactly what Christ was all about. The one thing I feel is necessary to say is that Eastern Christian practice as done in the Eastern Orthodox monasteries is a complete system from beginning to end. I say that, because I found early on that in many other paths, you can merge with the Source, however there still remain ego fragments and the whole of the subconscious stirring up constantly and causing troubles for the rest of one's life. In our school, through the Jesus prayer, all of that is eventually snuffed out and there is a completion stage of perfection where even the body is transformed and filled with light flowing through all the opened channels. So there's a start and there's and end and can all be done in this lifetime. Of course the rest of life remains as a practice of making available to others the energies and Union that is within you by going out to the world and sharing the Light"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcSdnn1e_8E&list=PLKMsyL4RqSavh4SfSVFYpKIvFm5pirzL3&index=2 My playlist is diverse, ranging from abstract & dark techno to blissful dance and Rastafarian (and mixes of each, all the highest quality). Please let me know your thoughts @Leo Gura (dont miss some of these diamonds :D) [im also gona be adding to it, i have years of collection] <3 peace, love and existential bliss to all <3

Where does one begin the search for spiritual truth self-realization called enlightenment? Dr. David Hawkins’ List Below has been calibrated above 500, which is unconditional love. I find this list important, as I do not want to be duped (smile) on my spiritual path by any book or teacher not yet teaching from the conscious level of (500+ which is unconditional non-duality love.) Hawkins’ Consciousness Scale ranges from 0-1000, (1000 is the Highest Level of pure/consciousness humanly possible.) “The great avatars that set the ultimate paradigm of reality and standard of conduct for all of humanity for thousands of years. Of those, the Lords Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, and Jesus Christ all calibrate at 1,000. All the names for Divinity calibrate as Infinity. The revered great sages and their teachings calibrate in the 700 (extremely rare), such Huang Po and Ramana Maharshi.” -Hawkins After being a student of Dr. Hawkins for a while now, I can share with you that I have forever been changed by his love. Although I’m not yet Enlightened I’m certainly on the path and nothing would take me off it, as I have discovered God’s Love is my LIFE. According to Hawkins we, as humans, live at vastly different “levels” of consciousness. All these levels, along with the “truth level” of ANY true/false style inquiry, can be tested for truth and numerically “calibrated” through muscle testing, on a logarithmic scale of 1-1000. According to Hawkins, any person, concept, thought or object that calibrates at 200 (The level of Integrity) or above is positive (“power”); anything below 200 is negative (“force”). So far, so good. Hawkins’ “map of the levels of human consciousness” is highly consistent with most spiritual teachings, running the range from Shame (lowest) to Enlightenment (highest). Hawkins’ descriptions of the levels are accurate; his personal growth coverage , positive energy and similar concepts are spiritually sound. (This is further discussed in Dr. David Hawkins book, Power vs. Force) Below is Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. ‘List’ of calibrated Spiritual Teachers/Teachings/Places/Books and Mantras that are over the conscious level of 500 UNCONDITIONAL LOVE: [500] – LOVE This level is categorized by love that is very close to being unconditional, unchanging, and permanent. It does not fluctuate nor does it depend on external factors. Love is a state of being. It is a forgiving, nurturing, and a supportive way of relating to the world. It is not intellectual and does not come from the human mind. Love radiates from the heart Chakra. It has the capacity to life others and accomplishes great feats because of its purity of motive. At this level of consciousness, the capacity to discern essence becomes predominant. The core of an issue becomes the center of focus. As reason is bypassed, there arises the capacity for instantaneous recognition of the totality of a problem. Reason only deals with particulars, whereas Love deals with entireties. This ability, often called intuition, is the capacity for instantaneous understanding without resorting to sequential symbol processing. There is a major paradigm shift in those things, which seemed real, which now seem unreal and vice versa. This level opens to door to benevolence, mercy, and Forgiveness through understanding and nonjudgmental. Only 4% of the entire population of the earth attains this level. Because of the dominating power of light over darkness, one individual at this level counterbalances 750,000 people below the 200 levels. This is the level at which spirituality starts, since below this, individuals are still caught up in the linear world. Also the level of a songbird’s song, cat’s purr, and a dog’s wagging tail. [505] – The level of valor. Also the level of Dante. [510] – The current level of Catholicism. Also the level of the Ganges River, which demonstrates the power of spiritual intention, the power of prayer. It calibrates there despite having sewage from 100 metropolitan areas, all kinds of filth, even bodies. [520] – This level interestingly sees much country music, which may be due to the lyrics often speaking about the problems of the heart, emotionally speaking. [535] – The energy level of Christmas, which is probably due to the common practice of giving gifts to others and having festive celebrations with good tidings. [540] – Joy – At this level, love truly becomes unconditional. It becomes experienced as inner joy. This is not the sudden feeling of joy because of a turn of events. Rather, it is a constant accompaniment in everything the individual does in every moment of his or her life. Joy comes from each moment of existence. This is also the level of healing and spiritually based self-help groups. What has been known as ‘miracles’ occurs when someone is at this level of consciousness. Only 0.4% of the global population is at this level. This is also the level of truth of Christian practice in the 6th century AD. This is the level at which the third eye opens, physically known as the Pineal Gland. Devotional acts calibrate at 540, because of the power of their intention. Includes folding hands in prayer, kneeling to pray, genuflection, praying at the Wailing Wall, turning a prayer wheel, etc. [540+] – From this level upward, it is the domain of saints, advanced spiritual students, and healers. A capacity for enormous patience and the persistence of a positive attitude in the face of prolonged adversity is characteristic of this level. The hallmark of this state is Compassion. [540] – The calibration of the music of George Harrison, on an overall basis. Also the level of Socrates. [540-600] – This level of consciousness is reached after a person has a Near Death Experience, which are spiritually transformative and allowed individuals to quickly get to this level. At this level, the world seems illuminated by the beauty and perfection of creation. Everything happens effortlessly, by synchronicity, and the world and everything in it is seen to be an expression of love and divinity. A Presence is felt whose power facilitates phenomena outside conventional expectations of reality, and often termed ‘miraculous’ by the ordinary observer. The spiritual teachers in this level are the ones who have the most contact with significant numbers of people. At this level, joy leads many to become spiritual and inspirational teachers, healers, great artists, or even architects who create the great cathedrals that involve sacred geometry, great inspirational music, and the production of beauty in all its forms. Many major persuasions of Christianity including Roman Catholicism, Anglicanism, Christian Science, and many small denominations such as the Quakers calibrate on this level. [560] – Carl Jung was at this level. Sigmund Freud was below the level of 500 because of his denial of man’s spirituality, whereas Jung affirmed the spiritual nature of human beings. [575] – The level consciousness of ecstasy. [600]- A Course in Miracles (Workbook year of 365 days of lessons.) According to David Hawkins, ACIM calibrates around 600+, making it very factual, and quite enlightening. Here is what Hawkins says about the Bible: Quote: The Old Testament calibrates at only 190. However, Genesis is at 660, Psalms is 650, Proverbs is 350. If these are excluded then the remaining Old Testament calibrates at only 125. The New Testament calibrates at 640. However if Revelations were removed (calibrates at only 70) then the New Testament would calibrate at 790. The current bible calibrates at 475 as a whole. To make it authentically “Holy” as the title implies, it would have to exclude all of the books of the Old Testament (except Genesis, Psalms and Proverbs) and Revelations. If that were done, then the bible would be truly “Holy” and calibrate at over 740. Importantly, the Lamsa version of the bible (Translated from Aramaic, Jesus’ language) is more accurate than the King James Version (translated from Greek). It calibrates 20 points higher. If the Lamsa bible excluded the old testament (except Genesis, Psalms, Proverbs) and revelations it would calibrate at 810. If Revelations were removed from the Lamsa version of the New Testament, it would calibrate at a whopping 880. Society calibrates at 204 I think he said, with great minds on earth calibrating around 499-510 ranges. So at least according to Hawkins, ACIM is very important and highly relevant work. Hawkins own books calibrate from 850-999.5 ranges them, with 1000 being maximum for humanity – that is what Jesus was when he was walking the earth. Hawkins further says that in his calibration studies, students of ACIM at lesson 75 become “Immune” to negative stimuli. He says that this seems to be the critical point in the studies, but that they must be followed from 1-75 before it all really clicks for people. [600] – Peace – This level is associated with the experience designated by such terms as transcendence, Self-Realization, and Christ consciousness. It is extremely rare. Only 1 in 10,000,000 attain this at any given time. It is quite common that individuals at this level remove themselves from society, as the state of bliss that ensues precludes ordinary activity. Some become spiritual teachers; others work anonymously for the betterment of mankind. A few also become great geniuses in their respective fields and make major contributions to society. These individuals are saintly and may eventually be officially designated as such, although at this level, formal religion is commonly transcended and replaced by pure spirituality, from which religions originated. Bliss intervenes at this level and worldly activities stop, sometimes permanently. This level is also noted for the crossing over from the perceptual world of duality, to the perceptual world of Nonduality. Beyond this level, previous lives are easily remembered as well as the circumstances and significance of each life. One individual at this level counterbalances 10,000,000 below the level of 200. Perception at this level is reported as sometimes occurring in seemingly slow motion, suspended in time and space. Nothing is stationary and all is alive and radiant. Although this world is the same one that is seen by others, it has become continuously fluid, evolving in an exquisitely coordinated evolutionary dance in which significance and source are overwhelming. There is an infinite silence in the mind, which has stopped conceptualizing. Enlightenment is reached at levels 600 and higher. A Tibetan abbot once said that Peace is of the greatest importance in our world today. In the absence of peace, we lose what we have gained. In the presence of peace, all things are possible: love, compassion, and forgiveness. Peace is the source of all things. This is also the level of kinesiology. [605]- The level of the Kabbalah and Aurobindo. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe. [610] – The level of Lao Tzu and his teachings. [630] – The calibration of the phrase Om Namaha Shivaya. [640] – The King James Version of the New Testament. [650] – The Book of Psalms. Also the level of ‘I AM’ awareness and Awareness of the ‘I’ as being or is-ness. Also the level of “Shanti Shanti Shanti”. The Lord’s Prayer also calibrates on this level. [660] – The perception of the Self as simply Existence. [700-1000] – Self-Realization and Enlightenment – An individual at this level counterbalances the negativity of 70,000,000 individuals below the level of 200. This is also the level of Sages. The Self is seen as God Manifest. The Declaration of Independence resonates at this level. The Koran also resonates at this level, as it was written before the fall of Mohamed after he ‘took up the sword’. [700s] – The Aura emanating from individuals calibrating at this level has an attraction and an effect on visitors. They like to be near the presence of these individuals because they feel incredible inner peace. Serenity replaces fear and anxiety in those who are around individuals on this level. A typical statement given by a person on this level would be something like “There is no world to save; reality is just an illusion.” A statement such as this is not understandable to most at lower levels. [700] – The level of the phrase Om Mane Padme Hum [705] – The level of the Rig Veda [700+] – There are 22 sages on this planet who calibrate at this level or higher, according to Dr. Hawkins. Of those, 20 of them are at 800 or more, of whom there are 10 at or over 900, and one sage at 990. [740] – The mantra Om, as opposed to Aum, which is a serious alternation and is why it calibrates at the extremely low-level of 65. This is also the level of the New Testament, if the Book of Revelations is included. This is also the level of Mohamed at the time he wrote the Koran, before dropping to 130 after he ‘took up the sword’ at age 38. ‘I’ is seen as a total statement As the Ultimate Reality. [750] – Manifestation calibrates at this level. What appears to be change is the emergence of potentiality out of essence into manifestation. This is also the level of the Lamsa translation of the New Testament from Aramaic. [760] – Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi [780] – The Heart Sutra and the Lotus Sutra. [795] – Bodhidharma as well as the Zen teachings. [800] – Teacher of Enlightenment. [800s] – There is not much that is known about this level range. However, it is seen that salvation of all of humanity is a main priority and concern. [810] – The level of Ramayana [840] – The Self is seen as Beyond Existence or Nonexistence. [850] – The higher Self as Logos. This is also the level of Hinduism currently. Also the level of Void, Oneness, Nothingness, Reality as Consciousness, and Reality as Awareness. [855] – The level of Allness [890] – Hinayana Buddhism (lesser vehicle) and Zen Buddhism. [800s and 900s] – Salvation of humanity as a whole is of primary concern. Spiritual reality, essences, and understandings are of importance. Form and its details are irrelevant except as a necessary style for communication. Physical discomfort starts to increase quite visibly in these levels of consciousness. [900] – Buddhism was this level in the 6th century AD. The teachings of this particular religion have deteriorated less than any other religion. [910] – The Bhagavad-Gita [930] – the level of the esoteric teachings of Jesus Christ as of the 2nd century AD, some of which survived in the Gnostic texts. “After my departure there will arise the ignorant and the crafty, and many things will they ascribe unto Me that I never spake, and many things which I did speak will they withhold, but the day will come when the clouds shall be rolled away, and the Sun of Righteousness shall shine forth with healing in his wings.” ~Jesus, The Essene Gospel of Peace. [960] – Mahayana Buddhism (greater vehicle). Also the level of Huang Po (his book “Dharma of Mind Transmission” is at the level of the void 850, and was written before Po transcended to 960). [965] – The Buddha’s Law of Dependent Origination or Interdependent Co-Creation. [965] – Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, by David R. Hawkins [970] – The Upanishads The Upanishads -are Hindu scriptures that constitute the core teachings of Vedanta. The Upanishads have exerted an important influence on the Hindu philosophy and were collectively considered one of the 100 Most Influential Books Ever Written by the British poet Martin Seymour-Smith. [985] – This is the level of an Avatar. [990] – There is only one living sage at this level, according to Dr. Hawkins. [999] – The statement “There is no cause of anything” calibrates at this level. [1000] – This is the maximum energy level that can be tolerated by the human body and nervous system. It is the extremely rare level of avatars from ages past. No human has ever existed with a consciousness calibration higher than 1000. The archetypes Christ, Buddha, and Krishna are at this level. This state is also the existence of Buddhahood, Christ Consciousness, At-Oneness with the Source Manifest and Unmanifest. Beyond the human realm of consciousness possibility: [1000+] – Buddhahood, Brahman, Christ, Krishna, The ‘I’ of Ultimate Reality. Infinity – The Source of reality manifest as divinity. The supreme creation Source of consciousness eternal. The Source of all that is. Interesting Facts Concerning consciousness calibration, there are some very interesting facts. * Powerful patterns are associated with health; weak patterns are associated with sickness. Every thought, emotion, word & action has one pattern or the other. Every moment of our day we are either moving towards health or sickness. * Everything calibrates at certain levels from weak to high including books, food, water, clothes, people, animals, buildings, cars, movies, sports, music etc. * A good amount of the music today calibrates at levels below 200. Hence it leads to behavior associated with lower energy levels of consciousness. * Most movies will weaken people who watch them by bringing their energy levels down below the 200 level of consciousness. * 85% of the human race calibrates below the critical level of 200. * The power of the few individuals at the top counterbalances the weakness of the masses. o 1 individual at level 300 counterbalances 90,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 400 counterbalances 400,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 500 counterbalances 750,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 600 counterbalances 10 million individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 700 counterbalances 70 million individuals below level 200 o 12 individuals at level 700 equal one Avatar (eg. Buddha, Jesus, Krishna) at level 1,000 * Any meaningful human satisfaction cannot even commence until the level of 250 where some degree of self-confidence begins to emerge. * When one’s consciousness falls below 200 at any given moment you start to lose power and thus grow weaker and more prone to be manipulated by one’s surroundings. * Parts of one’s life will calibrate at a higher level of consciousness while other parts will calibrate a lower levels. It’s the overall average that determines one’s consciousness. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ List of Books – muscle tested by D. Hawkins BOOKS Bhagavad-Gita 910 Vedas 910 Zohar 720 Ramayana 810 Mahabarata 780 Kabala 720 Apocrypha 740 Tora 740 Koran 700 Heart Sutra 780 Lotus Sutra 780 Diamond Sutra 700 Gospel of Thomas 660 Dead Sea Scrolls 650 Book of Kells 570 Vedanta 595 King James bible 475 Lamsa bible 495 Genesis (Lamsa) 660 Psalms 650 Proverbs 350 New Testament (KJ) 640 Lamsa bible (minus Old Testament& revelations, but including Genesis, Psalms, & Proverbs 880 Tibetan Book of the Dead 575 San Hedron 240 Yoga sutras (Patanjali) 630 A Cource In Miracles 600 Book of Mormon 510 SPIRITUAL PRACTICES Christian communion 700 Transcendental Meditation 220 Qiqong 195 Tai chi 310 Hatha yoga 260 Kung Fu 410 Rebirthing 250 Est 400 Sedona Releasing 490 Avatar workshops 245 Seth books 470 Reiki 285 Scientology 195 Rosicrucian 405 Science of Mind 405 I Ching 430 Theosophy 365 Druids 450 PRAYERS AND MANTRAS Lord’s Prayer 650 Om 740 Om Namaha Shivaya 630 Shanti Shanti 650 Om Mane Padme Hum 700 Gregorian Chants 595 Japa 525 Jesus’ Prayer 525 Rosary 515 Prayer of Jabez 310 Cursing (Lord’s name in vain) 45 Damning people to hell 15 Ankh (symbol) 160 Shaktipat Energy 160 SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS “None get to heaven but by me” 940 Eye of the I 900 I (as divinity) 980/998 I (as allness) 990 I (as void) 990 I (as supreme) 1000 Buddha Nature 1000 Justice 380 Justice as “eye for an eye” 375 Theology 460 RELIGIONS BUDDHISM Mahayana 980 Zen 890 Hinayana 890 Lotus Land 740 Tantric 515 Tibetan 490 Won 405 CHRISTIANITY 1st Century 980 After Council of Nicea 485 College of Cardinals 490 Papacy 570 Coptic 475 Born Again 350 Gnostic 290 Modern Protestantism 510 Christian Science 410 Modern Catholicism 440 Jesuit Order 440 Catholic position on pedophelia 90 Amish 375 Quakers 505 Unity 540 Pentacostal 310 Puritan 210 TV Evangelist 205 LDS (Mormon) 390 7th Day Adventist 190 Right Wing fundamentalist 95 Right wing fund. Tv evang. 90 Jehovah’s Witness 195 HINDU Ancient 700 Modern 499 Hari Krishna 460 Subud 470 Sikh 420 Tamal Siddha Vedanta 330 Raja Yoga 485 Sahaj Marg 410 Jainism 495 Islam 700 Current Mohamadism 325 Muslims 205 Shiite Muslims 55 Judaism (modern) 530 Shinto 350 Taoism 500 Unification Church 150 Wicca 160 New Ageism 185 NAMES OF GOD Buddha Nature (as allness) 1000 Buddha Nature (as void) 980 Native American Great Spirit 850 Yahweh 460 Jehovah 205 Elohim 100 God of Old Testament 100 Greek Gods 90 Germanic Gods 90 Scandinavian Gods 90 Gods of War 90 Pagan Gods 100 Name of God as “OM” tests negative God Transcendent 1000 God Immanent 1000 SPIRITUAL TITLES Master 700 Saint 700 Lord 1000 Angels 550 Archangels 50,000 Enlightenment 600 Teacher of the Way to Enlightenment 800 Pope 570 True Guru 540 + Guru (prior to 1960’s) 540 Guru (since the ’60’s) 190 Baba 190 SPIRITUAL TEACHER CALIBRATIONS Avatars Jesus Christ 1000 Buddha 1000 Krishna 1000 Zoroaster 1000 Spiritual Teachers Huang Po 960 Gandhi 760 Mother Theresa 710 Meister Eckhart 700 Chief Detroit 650 Karmapa 630 Muktananda 750 Vivekananda 610 Ramakrishna 620 Rabbi Moses de Leon 720 Nisargadatta Maharaj 720 Ramana Maharshi 720 Ramesh Balsekar 760 Confucius 590 St. Patrick 590 Wallace Black Elk 499 John Calvin 580 John Wesley 360 Martin Luther 580 Dalai Lama 570 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 410 Robert Powell 575 Joel Goldsmith 455 HWL Poonja 370 Wei Wu Wei 475 Charles Filmore 485 Padmasambava 595 Satchitananda 605 Meher Baba 240 Sri Karumay 221 Tenzin Gyaltsen 599 Alice Bailey 445 Vernon Howard 455 Patanjali 660 Peter Ousepensky 335 Robert Schuller 405 Thich Naht Hahn 460 Nostradamus 220 Yogananda 540 Lao Tzu 520 Alan Watts 485 John Blofield 465 Poonjaji 520 Bernadette Roberts 445 Ram Das 420 Chungliang Al Huang 405 C.W. Leadbetter 485 John Bradshaw 460 M Scott Peck 475 Gangaji 475 Joseph Smith 520 Emmett Fox 470 Thomas Merton 520 Hazrat Khan 499 Sant Thahar Singh 315 C.S. Lewis 390 Sri Siva (Sri Guruji) 220 Joseph Campbell 410 Source: Dr. David Hawkins numerous books and seminars including Power Vs. Force and Dr. Hawkins June 28 2003 Sedona Seminar. Gloria in Excelsis Deo! Source: https://nancybragin.com/2012/12/29/dr-david-hawkins-calibrated-reading-list/ NAMASTE

I've been reluctant to discuss this until it felt resolved, but more as a warning to those who choose to swim in deep water. Firstly, this needs to be prefaced by saying that I have the utmost respect for Leo and his willingness to share and be open about his experiences. Secondly, I consider myself a psychonaut with 20 years of experience. Perhaps not to the extent that some may consider, but to give some context: I've done 50+ ayahuasca experiences, 5-MeO breakthrough doses 5+ times, and at least 20 hugs/handshakes, as well as iboga, countless High doses LSD and mushroom trips, and various other experiences. I've never been on antidepressants and never felt suicidal. I've been open to the realms that these modalities offer, mostly out of curiosity and interest. On average, 99% of my trips have been good—challenging at times, but ultimately transformative. They have taken me to the edge, and I have learned through facing the fear. Of course, some trips involve shadow work, but I have come to embrace this wholeheartedly. So, this isn’t my first rodeo. I know what bad trips are like. Having worked with ayahuasca in the Amazon jungle for years, facing a multitude of spaces, I felt well-prepared. March 2024 I found Leo’s video on "The Other God Particle" interesting and located the substance from a very reputable source, trying Malt as per Leo's suggestion (plugging). My first experience was with a very light dose (7mg) to see if it was legit and matched his description. The first experience was incredible and exactly as he described. A light dose but I knew that it was legit However, I will say that my recollection of the experience soon disappeared after grounding. All in all, it was a net positive. A week later, I decided to increase the dose to 12mg - still fairly light Administered in the same way, this experience was even more beautiful. I navigated the space wonderfully, and at the peak, I was floating in a realm I can only describe as absolute bliss. Then, in an instant, like a switch being flipped, everything vanished. As high as I had been, it all disappeared. Gone. As infinitely vast as the love and bliss I had just experienced, I now found myself in the polar opposite. No matter what I did—no matter what shamanic tools I had spent over 10 years developing—nothing could resolve it. I was in a perpetual inversion of love. It felt like my entire existence was being sucked into a pit of disgust and sludge. I tried to engage with the state, to reason with it, but the only response was "No, no, no, no." I knew there was no way out. Just as one can experience infinite love in quintessential 5-MeO experiences, this was infinity—but of absolute hell. I eventually opened my eyes and found myself back in the room. I tried to shake it off. I grounded myself as best I could and wrote it off as a bad trip - and continue my day. However, instead of the high-frequency thoughts I was familiar with after a transformative ceremony, this was the opposite—horrible. Then Things Got Worse My dreams began to change. Upon waking, my thoughts felt alien, as if they were not my own. Almost every thought had a tint of something that was not love. Years of work connecting with divinity felt severed. For six months, it got progressively worse. At my deepest core, it felt as though my connection to divinity had been completely severed, and worse still, my thoughts were not pure. It wasn't that I was thinking of doing bad things to people, but I wasn’t thinking of doing good to myself. May 2024 During these months, I attempted a small handshake dose of classic 5-MeO. All seemed well until the very end when the same sludge and darkness filled the space. This was not what I was familiar with. I knew something was seriously wrong. June 2024 I tried a weed gummy - as the trip peaked, I felt an endless sensation of darkness and a perpetual cycle of sludge. I was with a woman I loved and felt nothing toward her. Worse, I felt disgust. As I tried to fall asleep, the only way I could describe it was being on a hamster wheel where I couldn't change my thoughts and they were perpetually relapsing this void of love. It felt as though the seed of my incarnation had flipped into the "opposite of love". Day by day, the world began to reflect that. I knew I needed to seek guidance—someone experienced in these realms. I consulted with various shamans and practitioners and decided to undergo a flood dose of 5-MeO to investigate what was happening. October 2024 The private retreat I attended conducted three ceremonies: one hug and two flood doses. The first hug felt like I was being torn between two worlds, one very dark, and one very light. It didn't last very long it wasn't profound but it wasn't anything like what I remember 5meo to be. Then came the flood dose. Just like before, I was hurled back into hell. It felt as if everything I loved was gone. It whispered to me that I would never experience true love again. It felt like the keys to the kingdom of heaven were gone. When I emerged from the second hit, I spoke to the shaman about where I had gone, and the only thought in my mind was how I would say goodbye to those I loved because I knew—without a doubt—that I was going to kill myself. I had gone from a happy, normal life to a single experience that flipped a switch and nearly destroyed me. After the second 5-MeO flood, the only thought that existed in my mind was, “I need to die.” Having touched divinity many times before, I knew I had broken something within myself. The shaman and I discussed the events surrounding my Malt experience and considered the possibility of an entity attack—something feeding on ‘Loosh.’ It’s an esoteric concept, but well-documented. If people are interested, I can share more. In this darkest of spaces, I decided to take a third flood dose, but this time with one singular intent: expelling whatever had attached itself to me. I had recently completed a Bobinsana dieta in Peru (November 2023). She is a protector, so I called on her spirits. I went in with everything I had, and the shaman did the same, knowing now that this was potentially paranormal or non-ordinary. Going back in, going into the darkness, the third ceremony was just like the second, Hell, all I tried doing was focus on love and perhaps even prayer and then, something happened. Like a flickering heartbeat of light, something reignited within me. Just as the switch had turned off in March, something switched back on. The dark sludge that had cloaked my perception vanished instantly. The only words that escaped my mouth were: “I’m back.” From that day onwards, I haven’t had a single feeling reminiscent of those six months. I recently had a deep mushroom trip, and it felt normal—full of the familiar mystical qualities and none of the vile, invasive frequencies. Conclusion I truly believe that whatever this was has left me. I believe it did not have my best interests at heart. I spoke with another person who had the exact same experience—at the peak, something dark touched his third eye, and for two years he wanted to kill himself. Some will say, “Oh, it was just your shadow.” Having worked in the Amazon, I know people who have encountered true evil. This could have been one of those cases. We swim in deep waters- Protect yourself in these states But the last thing I’ll leave you with is: Never give up.

So, I just realized I haven't really spoken at all about my spiritual journey since my post more than 3 years ago, where I talked about my transition from Coral (Indigo) to Teal (Violet), my experiences and the shifts it had on me as a person. There is a good reason why I haven't talked at all about my spiritual journey since then, and that's because around this time is when I ended my spiritual journey. I considered myself done, and I was satisfied with where I was. Then about one year following that, another major shift happened in my subconscious, a silent, hyper-focused efficiency in all pursuits and a deeply rooted grounded-ness and peace with all that is. It's surprisingly a lot more difficult to talk about Ultraviolet from the point of Clear Light as it is about as different as any first tier stage would be from Ultraviolet. There are almost no commonalities between the two, and I'm having a hard time relating to this point in time despite not even having spent two weeks since I began transitioning to fourth tier consciousness. So, to get to the meat of it all. What and how did this come to be? Well, you see, I met this girl in school, and through her presence experienced selfless love for the first time in my life. This however was not the reason this change could take place, it was the intense emotional highs and lows that resulted from our relationship, resulting in both more pain and more happiness than I had ever experienced before in my life. This emotional rollercoaster eventually led me to face and unknowingly discard the last remaining parts of my ego. What followed was that I had unknowingly started to integrate the selfless love I felt for her, shaping my very being, allowing me to produce these feelings within and by myself. I didn't know it until it dawned on me a week later, but I had just started tapping into clear light. Looking back, that much is clear. Barriers related to feeling exhausted, physical and mental tiredness, limitations in focus all simply disappeared. While I can obviously still get physically tired like if I don't get enough sleep, since this point in time I've been immune to physical and mental tiredness in every other sense of the word. Even back in Ultraviolet, I would've never believed something like this to be possible for anyone, period. It feels like a transcendence of introversion and extroversion in many regards, as energy is no longer derived from socializing with groups of people or being by myself, but simply through being, resulting in limitless storages of energy throughout every moment of every day. This has been my reality for the past 12 days, and I've tried to test it by pushing myself to an extent that would have completely broken my past self. One such test was to study an extremely technical subject I'm working on, but for 15 hours straight, where 5 minutes of rest follows after 90 minutes of deep focus work until 15 hours have passed. I expected this to completely break me mentally, however it didn't. My focus didn't waver one bit throughout the day and I got more progress done than in the last week and a half put together. Ongoing list of immediate changes and insights from clear light when compared to any prior stages: Introversion and extroversion transcended. Energy flows freely, infinitely at every moment of every day with no effort needed to maintain it. Any and all past barriers and imagined limitations disappear completely. What's left is to witness the endless possibilities of it all, and to casually sail the waves of time. The capacity for deep uninterrupted work is supercharged to what would previously seem like an impossible degree. Sitting uninterrupted with something for x number of hours, be it 12 hours or 20 hours straight makes no difference. It's as effortless during the first hour as it is during the last. The beingness that happens at this stage makes past limitations, self-imposed or otherwise vanish as if they were never there to begin with. Physical capacity is greatly enhanced and too feels effortless when compared to what could be achieved before and what back then would have pushed the body to the breaking point now becomes an effortless dance between mind and matter. An outlook on what is with a profound sense of childlike wonder. Everything becomes magical and interesting, as if opening ones eyes for the first time. Extremely high levels of compassion, warmth and care for everything and everyone around me. Moodiness transcended. Permanent sense of bliss, wonder and unbound potential. Complete disconnect between past and present. No reference points to look back on, even from prior stages like Ultraviolet. There can't be any "after" as all limitations and dualities break apart at this point. It's very appropriately set as the final stage, as there can't be any after, when there is nothing more left for there to be an "after" of. I will probably keep adding to this post as I experience more, and I will date my updates accordingly. I've only "been" at what I perceive to be clear light for 5 days now (while the transition lasted 7 days), and which most definitely has to be a 4th tier stage due to how radically different it is from any prior stage or tier. It's been difficult for me to post about this sooner, as I've been having great difficulty grounding myself in reality following this realization. My body has very much been lagging behind so to say, but it's getting better by the day. 2024-11-21 16:58 GMT More about me. While I've been "on the path" very actively for the better part of 11 years, I've never taken psychedelics, so I've never gotten to experience glimpses of higher states of consciousness, only to drop down again right afterwards. Every time my consciousness has shifted, that new stage has quickly become the new baseline.

I think psychedelics (psds from now on) are like giving a call to Shakti and saying; hey, let’s meet up. She comes and either you are pure and totally commited to be in an eternal relationship with her and no longer participate in most of the desires of the world, or she sees that you are not ready to totally commit, kisses you, and leaves. That’s how I will treat Her now. I will treat Her as Goddess with which I am in a commited sexual relationship with, and I am only no longer partaking in the desires in this dream. I eat only what is perfect for my body - mostly fruits and veggies, rice, etc. I go on walks, do yoga, but that’s pretty mych it. My attention is all on Her, so I live an outside life of utmost simplicity, but inside I am showered by infinite love. I basically live the same life Ananda Ma lived. No sex no other things just living in perfect bliss, being totally commited to that Bliss as though you are in a deep loving relationship with That. Isn’t that was she was teaching by demonstration? Look how blisfull I am and taken care of if I dedicate myself totally to God. I expect Her to take care of me financially in whatever way She sees fit. She might instruct me to do something and of course I will. Or she might just miraculously take care of me in Her way withoy any of my effort. I know that if I am with her all my worldly concerns are taken care of. That’s one of the benefits of being in a commited relationship with a Goddess. I won’t quit my job or anthing, but I expect something magical to happen without my effort. The hallmark of being ready to re-enter a relationship with Shakti is living from Peace. You can’t jump from ego, fear and resistence to Love. You go from the mind to Silence and then when you are identified with Shiva you can re-enter the relationship with Shakti. If you are not able to maintain a state of Peace throughout the day then you are not ready for Her. She will just drive you crazy. You have the potential to make bad decisions. You can also create a spiritual conceptual identity and get stuck in it. No, we use the mind only here and there and in between we surrender to her Love and live in Silent embrace. This might not work but I will try it. This is based on my experience and vision and it might transpire to be something magical. Total commitment to Peace and a life of utmost purity + low dosages of psds to call Her and hopefully to keep her. There might be a reintroduction period where we are closer and a bit futher apart, so the Love does not overwhelm me, but that is perfect. Still going to my job ofc, not going there high or anything, just trying this on the evening of Friday and seeing if it stays until Monday if I live as though I live only for Her. Perhaps I am all she wants and if she is all I want then our desires meet in beautiful unity and the state of Heaven is restored.

This should come as no surprise. Like how there is ableism, racism, transphobia, etc. Ignorance is bliss.

@CoolDreamThanks thank you this info is helpful, I ordered that book you mentioned and another called " kundalini tantra " I had severe kundalini issues a few years back. If I try these practices il be very cautious. I have been doing Isha's practices for the last 3 years. Is kundalini yoga Jan esmans main sadhana as far as you know, bliss is what I'm looking for.

Theme: Exploration of the paradox of psychedelics as a spiritual practice—both as tools for deep transformation and as reminders that there is nothing to attain. How we`re gonna cover that - 3 steps 0- Foundations: Define spirituality & spiritual practice (thats a hard one) 1- The progressive Path/Model of spirituality & how psychedelics can assist that practice This is seen in most religious and mystical traditions: Buddhism (The Noble Eightfold Path, progressing toward Nirvana) Christianity (Sanctification, spiritual purification over a lifetime) Hinduism (The Four Yogas—Bhakti, Karma, Jnana, Raja—methods of progressive realization) Sufism (Tariqa, a path of stages leading to divine union) Psychological Models: Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory (spiritual growth as stages) Scientific Validation: Cognitive and developmental psychology support the idea that human consciousness develops in stages (Piaget, Kohlberg, Kegan). Studies on meditation and neuroplasticity also show that spiritual practice rewires the brain over time, reinforcing a progressive development model. Psychedelics as a tool for spiritual development. Facilitating the ascension of this journey. They can do that in many ways, i just wanna mention 4 here: 1- Cultivation of traits / "virtues" (Courage, trust, surrender, patience, love and so on) 2- Facilitating Insight & Remembering (Deep existential realizations)- perspective about reality, existence, life, god, your Self - “Who am I?” Facilitation of genuine Inquiry into Truth. 3- Practice of Dying Death-rebirth process → acceleration of spiritual growth. Cycle of purification and how psychedelics intensify and accelerate this process. The practice of Death & Dying Psychedelics as conscious suffering Psychedelics & Near Death experiences similarities research Chris Bache // Grof Maps as Science Data backup // COEX Systems 4-An “experience” of the Absolute The reach for the Absolute: The reality of deepening experiences → Moving further into infinity, higher states, deeper truths. The notion that we must move beyond ourselves and surrender more and more deeply to experience the ultimate. Example: 5-MeO-DMT, near-death experiences, deep meditative absorption into the beyond. Briefly mentioning - Dangers, Pitfalls, Challenges & Integration & Nuances. 2 - The Absolute Perspective of Spiritual Practice & Psychedelics as a practice of detached appreciation Many non-dual traditions challenge the idea of progress: Zen Buddhism: "You are already enlightened, just recognize it." Advaita Vedanta: "Tat Tvam Asi" (You are That), realization happens in an instant. Dzogchen (Tibetan Buddhism): The natural state is already pure awareness. Christian Mysticism (Meister Eckhart, St. John of the Cross): Union with God is already present, not something to be achieved. Psychedelic States: Many report a direct “timeless” realization of ultimate truth—paralleling these traditions. Scientific Validation: Research on mystical experiences (Griffiths et al., 2006; Pahnke, 1969) shows that peak psychedelic states can induce a spontaneous recognition of unity, transcendence of self, and loss of time-based progression. Studies on meditation (Samadhi, Flow States) reveal that non-dual awareness is associated with deactivation of the Default Mode Network (DMN)—the same effect psychedelics produce. “Seeking is suffering. To seek nothing is bliss.” The paradox: If the Absolute is everything, then it is also this moment, right here. We move beyond progress, chasing, seeking All states are valid. All appearances are truth. No hierarchy of experience. (Too radical??) The highest realization is that there is nothing to attain. The paradox of progress: from this perspective, there is no spiritual path at all—it’s all already perfect. The Absolute is not just beyond—it is also immanent, present in everything This is where detached appreciation comes in → Infinite love for all states. -Spirituality is not about preferring one state over another but recognizing the one who sees. Relate it to psychedelic practice: The practice becomes seeing the seer Detached appreciation → we do not attach to psychedelic states or peak experiences but love them unconditionally. - That becomes the practice! And then the psychedelic experience does not become a means to an end, but is an end in and of itself. Just as true meditation shall be. - Detachment as integration: Do not judge any state. Do not attach to any state. Do not prefer any state over any other. 3- The Paradox & Integration Integrating the Two – Where Do They Meet? Many traditions blend both (e.g., Christianity: "Be still and know" vs. "Strive for holiness") . -Acknowledge similarities but also disagreements, come back to not-knowing. Psychedelics show both models. Enjoy the journey. Enjoy the tension, the paradox, the suffering, the seraching - all of it. Love it. Appreciate it! The key is integration, avoiding the traps of bypassing or dogmatic progression. Psychedelics redirect us to that: appreciation of simple things (Grof findings) The realization that both perspectives are true at the same time. Holding both perspectives at once: psychedelics can be a path of progress, but progress itself is an illusion. -Is there data or research on Paradox as an inherent feature of reality? The challenge of integration: How do we live in this paradox? We can honor both the progressive path and the non-seeking path without contradiction. Recognizing language's limitations—truth is beyond words and frameworks. Traps and pitfalls (spiritual bypassing, attachment to peak experiences, superiority complex, psychedelic escapism). The importance of the foundation of spiritual work The humility of not knowing—embracing mystery and paradox. The most holistic, mature spiritual practice acknowledges we don’t know. Bringing wisdom into daily life → Grounding insights in love, service, and presence. Psychedelic Integration = Life itself Taking action: “let the beauty we love be what we do” - Rumi I know that´s a lot. Any help simplifying, clarifying or cutting out things is welcome <3

All one has to do is look through their eyes to see the oneness. Not look from them but through them. Not as a person seeing but seeing itself. A blind man sees nothing out there and neither do you. A deaf person hears nothing and neither do you. Hearing is just happening. Seeing is just happening. Walking is just happening. Talking and smiling and every other bodily activity. All just happening. There's no one doing it. You didn't go to smiling school, you never went to talking school or never had to be taught how to pee, it all just happened. These are the things i'm in interested in; not how to get enlightened. Not how to stop suffering, not how to find bliss or happiness. I've already realized that's just mind talking. Mind wanting to end itself. Mind seeking for it's own destruction. Mind tormenting itself. That's not who I am. That's just me. Mind, ego. Don't care if I suffer and I'm not seeking happiness or peace. I'm done with all that. There's already peace and tranquility present. There's also chaos and war and all that present. Why seek it. Seek and ye shall not find. I'm investigating my own existence. How I already am. What I currently am. Not some future existence of what i can be or what my potential is. This is not about the physical world or 3D world of movement and change. That's different. That's not real. That's a facade. Not denying it but it's of no importance. Even my investigating my existence is not of any importance because it will not change anything but it's what I enjoy doing. I don't do it to get anywhere or to find anything. I'm like a kid in a candy store with it. There's nothing but candy and there's no candy in the outside world. It's all a bunch of changing bullshit that's just for people who seek to uphold their human existence. I'm through with all that. I'm just there for the ride and paying my way at the gate. I want to investigate why we sleep. What is this breath I breathe. Observe. I'm an observer. No one makes it out alive. Why? One might say, because death is inevitable, why? One might say don't worry about why and that there are no why's or don't question things or it's just the way life is or whatever they say. Doesn't matter, I don't care if I get an answer; it's just these are the things I'm interested in querying. Not to know, but out of curiosity. Even why so many people suffer. That's also something to ponder. Not in the way most people see it, though. More so as to why soooooooooooooo many people suffer. All kinds of people from every background. I look at that more as suffering just exist just as everything else. Everything exist. "Richness" also exists but lots are poor. Why isn't it that more people are rich than poor if it's just that poverty and wealth exist just as suffering. Why isn't it evenly distributed. If you ask me, suffering tops them all. There's an abundance of it. Maybe it's the mind that suffers and wealth and poverty are just mindsets and suffering isn't. A mindset is a thought and how one thinks, but suffering is an activity of mind. I'm interested in why soooooooo many get addicted to wordly things. Even spirituality is a wordly thing if you ask me. Most narcissistic and neurotic humans would disagree but I beg to differ. Addiction is addiction and addiction stems from identification with the world and body. We try to differentiate these things, and it works, but only for those still identified with the illusion. I'm still identified but I can still see the traits and deceptions. We deceive ourselves into thinking being spiritual is better than being worldly. It's not better, just different in the mind. It's all one and of the same. There's no difference and you cannot separate the two. Only in the mind. We only do that to seem more special than "others". When you've gone full circle it all collapses and you're back to square one. Integrating both. Thing is most haven't gone all the way spiritually. Notice how one usually goes before the other. Most are worldly first then become spiritual. Then they think they've found something special. A way out of the suffering that led them there to begin with or close to God or Source. You're not closer than you ever were because you were never far away. ONLY IN THE MIND. It's all mind. Mind is tricky and slick. It will believe anything that suits it in it's time and space illusory nature. It knows how to create. It invents. It's your world. Without it you're dead. Who is the you I refer to. The person you think you are. So you create all sorts of belief systems and practices to stay alive. To keep you asleep. Once one has awakened, they need no more practices and will integrate worldly and spiritual things into their lives because they've recognized it's all one of the same. Can't have one without the other. Denying the worldly is just as insane as denying the spiritual. The mind trying to save itself. There's no mind of yours. It's all one.

Well there is a Bliss Body, which comes after the Astral Body, they call it Bliss Body because it is indescribable what it is, but when Your InTouch with it You Feel Bliss, I am not sure if this is the Atman/Soul or something else, but its non physical in nature. I've read as well that when You can Consciously access the astral Body, all desires are accessible, its like living in a Holodeck from Star Trek, You can create any reality or experience. But it all happens within You, these are just parts of You, Liberation is total annihilation of all of this, no more individuality or Bodies of any nature, no more ability to Experience anything, just merge with Absolute, like a drop of the Ocean going back into the Ocean...