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I'm sure Leo has a blog post quote of himself saying: Ignorance is Bliss. Which seems to be true right? Zoning out, forgetting about the pain of others, forgetting about ones responsibilities ect. can correlate to a sense of bliss. Isn't it like that? And then we have this quote here from the man Sadhguru himself. And this quote also resonates with a lot of truth to me. So who is right? Has one of either uttered the real truth here? To this I feel like, Leo holds some truth here in regards of his view on humankind. Which is a lot more pessimistic and ignorant (blissful for him?) to see the good in people. Whereas Sadhguru seems to intuit that a human has the capability of realising the suffering in the world and integrating it in his fundamental blissful state. PS: Sorry @Leo GuraI just hate how you hate on people all the time. Isn't this wonderfully paradoxical

Because is your true nature or the natural way of reality. Bliss vibration but is not mental bliss, is the core of Reality. So it can not be explained, but in a way, what you feeling right now is also Bliss but is veiled by certain things. Your body is already everything but because of certain attachment you seem to be a limited body.

By the way, AI chat bots are something I will be using for the rest of my life, but I like this one the most, because it's free and it's geared towards Hinduism and spirituality. Say what you want about Nithyananda, but this stuff is awesome. I had so many weird questions about reality and the answers are quite what I didn't expect. https://ask.nithyananda.ai Today I asked it Can you be unhealthy and still be happy Ask Nithyananda Nithyanandam! Let me share with you a profound truth about happiness and health. Happiness is not dependent on external conditions, including your physical health. While good health can certainly contribute to your overall well-being, it is not a prerequisite for happiness. The mind plays a crucial role in our experience of happiness. Many people cling to unhappiness even when they are healthy, while others find joy despite physical challenges. The key is in how you perceive and respond to your circumstances. Remember, happiness is your natural state. It's not something to be achieved, but rather uncovered by removing the obstacles we create in our minds. Even in illness, one can cultivate inner peace and contentment through spiritual practices and a shift in perspective. However, I must emphasize that taking care of your health is important. Our body is a temple for the Divine, and we should treat it with respect and care. But do not let physical conditions dictate your state of happiness. True bliss comes from within, from realizing your oneness with the Divine. If you wish to explore these teachings further and learn practices to cultivate lasting happiness regardless of external circumstances, I invite you to visit our YouTube Channel or Website for more guidance. The other time I asked it: Ask Nithyananda You What is a successful dating strategy Ask Nithyananda Nithyanandam! A successful dating strategy is about authenticity and connection. Be true to yourself, express your values, and seek someone who resonates with your essence. Focus on building a genuine relationship based on trust, communication, and shared interests. Remember, the more you are yourself, the more you attract the right partner. You What does kama sutra describe Ask Nithyananda Nithyanandam. The Kama Sutra is an ancient Sanskrit text that describes various aspects of human life and relationships. While it is often misunderstood as solely about sexual techniques, it actually covers a much broader range of topics related to human behavior, love, and dharma (righteous living). The Kama Sutra discusses: The philosophy and ethics of pleasure (kama) Various types of partnerships and relationships Courtship and marriage customs The role of partners in a relationship Ways to enhance intimacy and connection Some sexual positions and techniques, but as part of a holistic view of relationships It's important to understand that this text was written as a guide for living a fulfilling life, with physical intimacy being just one aspect of that. The goal was to integrate kama (pleasure) with dharma (duty) and artha (prosperity) for a balanced life. Remember, true fulfillment comes from spiritual growth and self-realization. If you're interested in exploring deeper spiritual teachings, I encourage you to visit our YouTube Channel or Website for more insights.

Higher prana levels equate to high joy and bliss levels as per Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. https://wisdomfromsrisriravishankar.blogspot.com/2010/01/ I had created a thread on prana by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar earlier...

I'm not looking for that sort of Truth first off, I'm looking to establish my Bliss first, I can only go by what feels right...Leo's approach is knowing based which is false, we cannot know reality completely so its a lost path, I can know Bliss, from there I will naturally find Truth, no need to go elsewhere...

This is the problem with Leo's approach, all one has to do is look at Leo himself and see if it works? It doesn't seem to be working for him, he seems miserable, unhealthy and angry or very emotional, so that is the result for the most part generally if people follow his ways... I follow mostly Sadhguru's ways, I do research others, they have similar programs but his seems to speak to me in a way, and his methods and techniques work and are very effective.. I would say generally for the masses, is basic programs (Isha Kriya, and Inner Engineering programs) are Bliss based programs, you start from where you are at, not this Absolutists, solipsism approach which I think is very disempowering and will lead you to what You are going thru...With Sadhguru, he teaches you on many levels, but in essence and imo you learn how to not activate the Stress Response Fight or Flight response in your system, you become naturally Peaceful and Happy, and even Blissful for no reason, then from this baseline point you begin to explore more Potential in Life and go from there... Try it first with Isha Kriya, its free and easy 12 min practice...

Those who go deep in spirituality start realising this and feel eternal love and bliss for everyone and everything. Forgiveness manifests itself in such people and they live free. The feeling of hatred evaporates and love fills up their life.

@MarioGabrielJ I prefer the use of the Term Brahman myself, God has to many implications associated with it for Use in a Spiritual Context I think, Brahman is better as it doesn't refer to a "Personified" God, it refers to as what You said above, Everything and Anything.. We can't understand Brahman, but we can Experience it. How does the Absolute or Brahman experience itself? I think it creates Us, so that a game of sorts begins, so that all sorts of Situations and Experience arises out of this Game. The Game is Serious and Fun, Blissful and Suffering, and the coolest part of it all, Brahman gave Us Free Will, the Ability to be Conscious/Aware enough of Brahman (this does not mean Intellectual Understanding) that we can determine in each of our Individual Expression/Experience how to go thru this Game, is it a Blissful Game or Suffering Game, both have to exist, one cannot exist without the other, but we can choose!! When we don't choose, then we live by accident and cannot really Experience Brahman totally, so that is why Bliss is a Great Foundational Context on the Spiritual Path, it allows us to be Free From Individuality and Karma in a way, it brings us beyond the inherent need to Survive and Live on that level of Living.. When You stop looking outside for Fulfilment, You stop Extracting from "Other", and You start Sharing, Giving much more, You want to Share this Bliss with everything around You, that is where Sat Chit Ananda comes into it, Reality/Brahman is Truth, Consciousness/Awareness, Bliss, these three words basically describe Reality and its all we need to know of it I think, any further inquiry will then get Us too Intellectually stimulated and we will Lose Awareness of it totally! All of this is Experiential, without Experience then how is Brahman/God to know itself?

https://www.mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-v-awakening/37-models-of-the-stages-of-awakening/the-perpetual-bliss-models/

The comedowns of LSD are pure bliss.

Here Sadhguru Describes the 5 Koshas, or Layers/Shealths that make Up a Human Being,.. What keeps it all together is the Karmic Substance, its like a Glue of sorts, Your Karma is stored in the First 3 Layers I believe, if You lose Your Body, its still in the Mind Layer, and the Energy Layer...Energy is the most subtle aspect of Physicality, Body is the most Gross aspect, once You Master the Energy aspect of Your Existence, then Your Destiny is 100% in Your hands, Karma cannot touch You know! 1) Food/Earth Body 2) Mental Body 3) Energy Body 4) Transitionary Body, phasing into Non Physical Aspect.. 5) Bliss Body, Bliss refers to the Experience of the person touching this aspect of what they are, pure Non Physical Aspect!

@Leo Gura have you considered that when you can adjust to certain states over years as your nervous system adjust? Also, states can soften and integrate into deeper peace instead of crazy ecstasy and overwhelming light that makes you unable to walk and talk. I know a few yogis who had a phase of being unable to function and then later integrated in that way. Last but not least, the reason why they don't experiance an effect from psychedelics anymore might NOT be because they are in the 'highest state' but because of the following reason: I learned that the highs and lows are like an oscillation or amplitude of consciousness and enlightenment is the collapse of that. So each high or low is a pushing against the baseline/straight line, it's a pushing below it or pushing above it, the distance from the base line in the middle reflects the increasing amount of resistance which is in between the two lines and makes it more obvious the bigger it gets, which is exactly what happens as we progress on the spiritual path, the highs and lows get bigger until we see the resistance that creates them clearly and surrender all resistance. With that the oscillation of highs and lows end and the amplitude collapses. This goes hand in hand with what Frank says that tripping and bliss is just a byproduct of clearing out conditioning. Because once conditioning is cleared, there is no more resistance. Meaning, when you are enlightened you are not in a peak state like on psychedelics as that is one extreme of the polarity and actually a form of resistance to what is. So then the collapse of polarity & duality puts you in the most sober state because you are fully in touch with your reality without resisting the mundane which is actually extraordinary in comparison to the normal/average ego state. Bottom line, yes psychedelics might make you more conscious in an isolated way but it's a refusal to accept your position in the grand scheme of things. There's a reason why we were born human and not SUPER CONSCIOUS ALIEN 👽 and enlightenment is a complete surrender and alignment with what our reality is, right now, not as our identity wants it to be. Right now, if you want it or not, a part of you is a limited human. What do you do with that? Deny it, reject it? Try to get away from it? Well, if so, good luck with hitting your head against the wall of limitation because the only way out is through. Also, simply stay true to your path and experience the consequences. That's the best we can do and life will course correct us with pain and/or death in due time. So fully enjoy your creation and savour it for it is you and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Let me know if that possibility and perspective resonates or makes sense at all. Not asserting it as absolute truth, just as relative wisdom.

@ShakazuluI don't find Steven's kriya very powerful. It's all about bliss. If it's blissful then it's powerful. I prefer SantataGamana's method. If you want to accelerate then SantataGamana's Kriya Supreme Fire is the best.

Yes Totally, Ignorance rules... Sadhguru actually says we should stay ignorant in a way, as knowledge is limited, but Ignorance is unlimited, but to do this we have to Experience Life as a game or Leela, and to play it Joyfully no matter what is happening around Us, that means establishing our Bliss/Being first then going out and performing action and having this or that come as a result!

Yes, and the way he explains it, explains Truth, at least for Me there is no other like him, its simple yet complex but very understandable, and he is diverse in the methods he shares, its on an intellectual level (live Now, aceept Now, respond to Now and your there) and its energetic and more, but ppl will say that he is unique.. He says he is only sharing about 2% of what he knows, we don't have to know all of it, we just have to get the Bliss part of it settled then we are on our way naturally, its so simple and easy!!!

I'd say it's an ever rising sine wave, ups and downs, gradual increases, as you learn how to reconcile bliss with daily life or change your daily life accommodate bliss but either way look to bridge ever greater awareness of the absolute with your relative

@Jehovah increases I feel bliss when I expand my awareness and that's what I refer to with "transcending my ego". I do and thank you, learning is key, though that is what I'm doing, I guess my posts is part of the form it takes, an expression of my implicit transformation.

I just wanted to share a picture of this nn-DMT pen that I bought from a shop in Washington DC a few weeks ago. I was very pleasantly surprised to see a DC shop with DMT pens from two different companies each priced at $150 per 1/2g. The branding on the box for this one had no name and no indication it contained DMT or anything, just an interesting design. I lost the box before thinking to take a picture. But I really like the design of the pen itself. Although the design is interesting, this device is incredibly overpriced. You can purchase pure DMT for much cheaper, and make your own vape juice and put it in your own device with a tank. Better yet you can extract the DMT yourself then mix the juice at whatever ratio you want. You are paying for the convenience of not having to either extract the DMT yourself or source it yourself. And in the DC market, all of these drugs are overpriced (and also illegal). When you are buying a product like this, you do not know the ratio they are mixing- they are ripping you off. They can say they are giving you 1ml and 800mg of DMT in the cartridge, but that's not necessarily the case. You really have no way of knowing. That being said, without knowing the ratio whatsoever on this pen, it hit very nicely. The pen didn't last long at all, as I shared it with a friend and my girlfriend. First I was with my buddy. He loves shrooms, but never had access to the DMT experience. He loved it. I also shared it with my girlfriend later who liked it as well. Both of them hit it very cautiously at their own pace and were not looking to breakthrough or blast off. They would hit the pen, chill out, then awhile later hit it again, taking in the experience at their own pace. When I was with my girlfriend, I wanted to go for a breakthrough. I only ended up taking two big hits and couldn't go for a third. I had a very intense trip. I became hyper aware of myself as God imagining my life. God felt distinct from me, but also I knew I was him, and "me" was my imagination, along with my entire life. I was shown a couple people in my life that God told me he loved- including my grandmother, who God said appreciates her service and dedication to understanding him. It was like God was pointing out who in my life is dedicated to a spiritual pursuit. He appreciated the pursuit to know him, even though he felt she was misguided in her pursuit in many ways. He still appreciated it and forgave her. But, I was also simultaneously aware that I was God, and that I was imagining my entire life and and this entire reality, and my Grandmother was just being imagined by me. I was also shown how I was imagining another friend of mine, and how he is imagining me. I was shown that we are both like-minded and interested in understanding the true nature of consciousness, and that we are imagining each other in order to help each other awaken to ourselves as God. I had one foot in the human material realm and the other in the eternal- I was still distantly aware of my physical surroundings. Id say I was in 85 percent eternal bliss, and 15 percent the material realm. I felt such amazing love and amazement for the genius of this dream I'm dreaming call life. And as God knowing that I was imagining this life and everything in it, I oddly didn't feel alone at all even though I knew I was alone. I just felt endless love. So you really don't need much DMT. Just two hits took me on a profound journey. I think it will be interesting to see DMT pens popularized in the same way as weed and shrooms. For most people on the streets, DMT is just something that Joe Rogan always keeps yappin about. Imagine going in to buy some weed for a blunt and you see a DMT pen and just buy it cause you heard about it on JRE or something. Then you accidentally realize you are imagining your entire life off two big hits. I have also been considering extracting DMT, making my own vape juice, and manufacturing pens at a fair price to compete with these rip off pens. I do think the DMT experience is one that should be more accessible to people, but not so overpriced. I've seen companies and people online selling other .5ml carts more than I bought mine for. You could probably do a full gram pen and sell it for cheaper. I don't like how expensive shrooms or weed are in places where they are legal or there are loopholes to buy them. It's a bit ridiculous. Some of the prices you see the general population spending their money on for this stuff is just insane. You are getting ripped off. I would love to be able to offer an equal or superior product for much cheaper in these markets. That goes for shroom chocolate bars as well. Many of those "shroom chocolates" are actually 4-aco dmt or 4-ho-met or another research chemical structurally related to psilocin usually acting as some analog or prodrug to psilocin. These RC's are safe, but with shroom chocolates and other things on the market you are not always getting what you think you are getting. And the prices are usually far too high. I noticed Canada has a lot of companies selling these overpriced carts. For an idea on prices of nn-DMT carts in Canada where it's legal, I compiled a list of prices from Nupepshrooms.cc. This is one of the first websites the popped up on Google for me. I hope this is not considered sourcing, as I would recommend NOT buying any of these products. I don't even know if you can trust that website. Just source your DMT elsewhere. You could get pure DMT for much cheaper and just make your own juice. If you were to extract DMT yourself you would yield many grams of DMT. When you make your own juice you can mix it to whatever ratio you want. Why buy a 250 dollar vape containing 800mg of dmt when you could get 1g of DMT for 60-80 bucks, or get multiple grams of DMT from 60 dollars of mimosa hostilis root bark after an extraction. nn-DMT Carts Price List from Nupepshrooms: -Deadhead Chemist (400mg of DMT in a .5ml cart with a battery) for $140 -Deadhead Chemist (400mg of DMT in a .5ml cart, no battery) for $125 -Deadhead Chemist (800mg of DMT in a 1ml cart with a battery) for $250 -Deadhead Chemist (800 mg of DMT in a 1ml cart, no battery) for $230 -Deadhead Chemist (3x .5ml carts, 400mg of DMT each, no batteries) for $400 -Deadhead Chemist (3x 1ml carts, 800mg of DMT each, no batteries) for $649 -Purecybin (300mg of juice in a .5ml cart, battery) for $110. -Purecybin (700mg of DMT in a 1ml cart, no battery) for $190 -Mushroom Canada (800mg of DMT in a 1ml cart) for $190. -Magic Mushroom Dispensary (800mg of DMT in a 1ml cart, no battery) for $183 -Swifty Labs (350mg of juice in a .5ml cart, no battery) for $118 - stealing Rick and Morty IP for branding -Puff Boys (400 mg of juice in a .5ml cart, no battery) for $125 I may expand this list later. As you can see, these vapes are overpriced. Some of them have really cool branding, like Mushrooms Canada shown below. I have not tried any of them. If it didn't feel like a waste of money when I can make the juice myself, I would love to try these different brands. But you just never know the quality of extraction process, the actual ratio of juice to DMT, etc. You have to think, the actual mechanical hardware of the vape cartridge is incredibly cheap, and most of these products are not providing you with a battery, just the cartridge itself, with a small amount of DMT mixed with juice for hundreds of dollars. If anything, you are paying mostly for packaging. These cartridges feel like scams. I haven't done the math on manufacturing and packaging costs, but I bet these companies are making a killing off your unwillingness to extract or source DMT. Here's some others: I am curious as to what a flavored DMT vape mix might taste like. The brand Puff Boyz has Pear, Vanilla, Grape, Very Berry, Wild Apple, and Cavendish flavors for their DMT carts. I plan to begin extracting DMT myself one day, and would love to blog about the process. I think it'd be cool to move to a country where psychedelics are legal and sell a good product in a legal market, or get into a market as it become legalized. The goal might look like: -Move to area with current legal market. -Purchase all equipment and ingredients to build a lab for Extraction Process. -Refine your method of extraction to yield the most DMT at the highest quality. -Mix DMT yield with vape juice. Experiment with different ratios for different experiences and perfect take off. -Professional branding for vape pen and its packaging (work with a good artist) -Increase the standard (dmt:vape juice ratio should always be explicitly stated on the package, along with ingredients used, such as VG/PG levels of the juice itself and juice being used, type of bark used in extraction, etc) Many of these DMT carts you see on the market have little to no information on the packaging about ratios. Some list the size of the cart and how many milligrams of DMT are in the cartridge. Some, like Deadhead Chemist, don't seem to have DMT milligram listed on the packing, but when you buy it online it tells you how many milligrams of DMT are in the cart in the description of the product on the website. You also want to make sure you have a small description of what happens when ingesting the product, a few warnings- do not drive, etc. And make sure you have instructions for how many pulls for each level of experience. -Work with manufacturer- give design for packaging and pen to manufacturer for mass production. -Fill product with vape juice once packaging and product is received -Enter legal markets with an equal or superior product to pen shown in picture (rechargeable 1ml pen instead of .5ml pen. I may begin with just CCELL cartridges) -Make prices more fair (DMT 1ml vape pen, 800mg of DMT for the same price as the .5ml vape pen in the picture- which probably only had 300mg of DMT) You could do it for even cheaper. There is no reason a DMT vape cartridge with 800mg of DMT (800/200 ratio) should cost $250 dollars. -As legalization happens slowly in US markets, be ready with a plan for a solid, safe product. There is similar progression happening with 5meo carts. They are overpriced and marketed in a similar way on Canadian websites. They are more expensive, probably because the drug is harder to synthesize and overall considered more rare. There is at least one place in Washington DC advertising have "5meo raw extract 250mg" for $175, and a 5meo DMT cart (.5ml cart unspecified ratio of dmt:juice). They are advertising this openly on their website for their shop. This is very surprising to see in Washington DC, considering regular nn-DMT and 5meo-DMT are both schedule-I controlled substances federally and illegal in every state in America. So to have shops openly selling and advertising DMT/5meo pens is crazy. I plan to also do market research on 5meo pens as they become more popularized in the US and worldwide. The brands Deadhead Chemist, Purecybin, Swifty Labs, Top Tier, Magic Mushroom Dispensary, and Mushrooms Canada also make 5meo carts. I may make another list just for 5meo pens and their current pricing between some websites. Other interesting things I have seen from Canadian suppliers: Deadhead Chemist sells liquid 4-aco DMT in a 100ml bottle for $225 bucks. They also sell DMT pre-roll joints. They also sell LSD tea (mint flavor, 100ug) and LSD edibles like gummies of many flavors. If you are in Canada you can legally buy ketamine, cocaine (tuci), LSD, mushrooms, mdma (they have it in four different colors- whatever that means) from Deadhead Chemist. They also sell a product called "Trip Stopper" containing 6 capsules (valerian root mixed with vitamin C) for $3 dollars. Seeing all that makes me want to move to Canada. So to conclude for now, if you have never experienced DMT and are in an area where it is legal, these vape pens/carts are a convenient way to have the experience, even if you may know deep down they are overpriced. If you have no other options, buy yourself a cart and go for the ride. But if you are going to smoke DMT regularly these carts are a ripoff and you should either source DMT and mix your own juice, or extract DMT yourself.

I would say anytime Your in a State of Awareness where Bliss comes up, that is good! It means Your on Your Way. Just stop thinking about it, and analysing it too death, that will stop the process completely and allow Karma to keep its hold on You. Karma is a sort of Conditioning and "Software" per say that makes Your Personality, Beliefs, and the essential condition of Your Life as it is Now, if You want something new and more Profound and to access Your Potential, then Karma has to be dealt with and set aside...

Recently I feel like I have been able to tap a lot more into the True Self.. Sometimes consciously, sometimes not. For example at work, I'll be walking behind a colleague of mine where all of the sudden it just hits me. Other times, like right now, I can focus deeply and get the sense of it. If I focus and self-inquire deeply, I feel empty. Like I feel like I hit my core and there is nothing there. My body starts twitching a bit and sometimes I blink really fast. It never lasts that long. Sometimes a burst of energy comes and I can't help but let some tears out. My sense of ''I" becomes less solid. Right after these experiences I get a certain feeling of calm and bliss. My thoughts and emotions become less compelling. Throughout my whole body I get this feeling of aliveness. I feel like there are people here with more experience than me in this field, so please help me understand this. I don't want to fool myself. If this has nothing to do with enlightenment or True Self, please let me know. If you have any other questions which could help determine what this is, please shoot. Thanks in advance.

I would say Sadhguru is the proof, he's worked 20hrs+ a day for the last 35yrs or so, none stop, its because he is in constant Bliss, again this does not mean he has no sense of what is going on or is in some sort of trance state, he balances it out with Clarity...He did the 30,000km Save Soil campaign last year, he's in his 60's, as well as riding his motor bike in horrendous heat and cold, rain conditions, over night with no sleep at times, he did something like 300 press events, none of us could do this, why does he do it, he doesn't have to do anything... here is a video of just one of his years in review and the stuff he does...

you're a body or you're awareness and if the former the bliss comes and goes while the latter is sat chit ananda how do you do it? you merge with the awareness that you are and cut away from the ego that you are not the ego keeps on keeping on and it will struggle if you jump ship it won't feel like eating or sleeping or anything and will need help to stick around maybe from a spouse

In spirituality there is the idea that at will you cause anxiety or bliss, which is a matter of attitude, practices, etc. I think this is a lie. The human circumstance is complex, we have an enormous burden of repression, conformism, inherited mental slavery. Shortcuts do not work, it is necessary to physically conquer your karma, to carry out the fight that corresponds to you. Evasive tactics in my opinion are like addictions, nothing lasting.

In spirituality there is the idea that at will you cause anxiety or bliss, which is a matter of attitude, practices, etc. I think this is a lie. The human circumstance is complex, we have an enormous burden of repression, conformism, inherited mental slavery. Shortcuts do not work, it is necessary to physically conquer your karma, to carry out the fight that corresponds to you. Evasive tactics in my opinion are like addictions, nothing lasting.

When you are in such high states of bliss, would you even get tired of life? True, I believe that's called acceptance and some call it enlightenment as well. But, for such a state to be called as enlightenment, you should be fluid in going back to higher states if you've gone deep into a lower state of consciousness once again. Free will, maybe?