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If you haven't seen 'Midnight Mass' on Netflix I highly recommend it. Starts slow, but it all comes together masterfully. This is a conversation that happens at the end (spoilers obviously). For a show about fanatical Christianity, this powerful speech at the end is quite on-the-nose Nonduality. Just goes to show that Nonduality is truly becoming mainstream and part of the collective-consciousness. As the character is dying: ‘What do I think happens when we die? Speaking for myself...myself...myself. That's the problem, that's the whole problem with the whole thing, that word, “self”. That's not the word, that's not right. How did I forget that? I thought I'd despair or feel afraid, but I don't feel any of that. Because I'm too busy in this moment remembering. This body is mostly just empty space after all and solid matter, it's just energy vibrating very slowly. And there is no me. There never was. I'm no longer breathing and I remember. There is no point where any of that ends and I begin. I remember I am energy, not memory, not self. My name, my personality, my choices, all came after me. I was before them and I will be after. And everything else is pictures picked up along the way. Fleeting little dreamlets. And I am the lightning that jumps between. I am the energy. And I am returning, just by remembering. I am returning home. It's like a drop of water falling back into the ocean, of which it's always been a part. All things, everyone who's ever been, every plant, every animal, every atom, every star, every galaxy, all of it, that's what we're talking about when we say God. The One. The cosmos, and its infinite dreams. We are the cosmos dreaming of itself. It's simply a dream that I think is my life every time. But I'll forget this. I always do. I always forget my dreams. But now, in this moment, I remember. The instant I remember, I comprehend everything at once. There is no time, there is no death, life is a dream. It's a wish, again and again and again, and on into Eternity. And I am all of it. I am everything. I am all. I am that. I am you.'
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I feel like this video does not get enough love and attention - It's by far the best nonduality video of Le's (for me). I've watched it 3 times now. Does anyone have any book recommendations on the topic of Aztec Nonduality?
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Leo’s Blog Videos ➼ There’s another version of this list that organizes these videos into different categories like Epistemology, Enlightenment, Life Purpose, Society and Health. It’s called Leo’s Blog: Videos, Summaries and Interviews. • Explaining Take-Down & New Awakening - Feb 18, 2022 • Extra Insights About Good Intentions - Aug 23, 2021 • Sherlock Holmes' Brain - Apr 21, 2021 • Water Fast Ends, Carnivore Diet Begins - Apr 9, 2021 • Why Debates Don't Work - Mar 21, 2021 • 14 Day Water Fast - Mar 17, 2021 • Guerilla Business Advice - Feb 28, 2021 • Learning From Partially False Perspectives - Feb 25, 2021 • Back From 2 Month Break, Updates - Feb 5, 2021 • Conscious Capitalism BS - Nov 26, 2020 • Requisite Variety & Creative Laziness - Jul 22, 2020 • My Health Situation - Jul 21, 2020 • Deconstructing Property Rights - Jul 8, 2020 • Why Bernie Sanders Lost - Apr 17, 2020 • What It's Like To Smoke Salvia Divinorum - Feb 29, 2020 • Explaining God For Dummies - Feb 5, 2020 • Miracle Awakening - Dec 17, 2019 • Ego-Collapse Awakening - Dec 15, 2019 • Why The Media Is Corrupt - Oct 23, 2019 • The Big Picture Of Global Politics - Oct 7, 2019 • My Critique Of Zizek's Critique Of Buddhism - Aug 23, 2019 • Rethinking Human History - Aug 21, 2019 • Why Are My Videos So Long? - Aug 19, 2019 • How To Test For Self-Bias - Aug 15, 2019 • Infinite Love Awakening - Jul 17, 2019 • Tapping Into Collective Consciousness - Jul 11, 2019 • Do I Doubt Myself? - Jul 7, 2019 • Sense Organs Are Imaginary - Jun 27, 2019 • DPT The Other God Molecule - Jun 21, 2019 • Total Omniscience Awakening - Jun 11, 2019 • My Political Awakening - Jan 23, 2019 • Skepticism & Nonduality - Oct 22, 2018 • How I Started My First Business - Oct 8, 2018 • All Understanding Is Metaphoric - Part 2 - Oct 3, 2018 • Metaphysics vs Epistemology - Sept 16, 2018 • Why Get Rich Quick Schemes Don't Work - Sep 10, 2018 • Inside The Mind Of Trump - Sep 6, 2018 • All Understanding Is Metaphoric - Sept 4, 2018 • Sitting Posture For Yoga & Meditation - Mar 6, 2018 • Don't Half-Ass Yoga - Mar 6, 2018 • Life Lessons From "Life Below Zero" - Jan 10, 2018 • Changing Perspectives Destroys Reality - Dec 21, 2017 • Understanding Better Than Academics - Dec 9, 2017 • Absolute Infinity Demo - Nov 29, 2017 • The Launch Of Infinite Insights - Leo's Blog - Jan 30, 2017 Leo’s Personal Retreats Retreat At Home: • May 2018 Solo Retreat - Part 1 - May 31, 2018 • May 2018 Solo Retreat - Part 2 - Jun 4, 2018 • May 2018 Solo Retreat - Part 3 - Jun 8, 2018 Two Retreats In Hawaii: • First Hawaii Retreat - Feb 2018 (8 videos) - Feb 25, 2018 • Second Hawaii Retreat Intro - Apr 26, 2018 • Hawaii Late Night Insights - May 1, 2018 • Conclusion Mindfucked In Hawaii - Apr 22, 2018 Retreat in Arizona: • Solo Retreat Videos & Insights (10 videos) - May 7, 2017 Interviews with Leo • The Theories of Everything Podcast interviews Leo —Part One: Ego Death, God, Reality vs Dream, TOEs, and an "Ask Me Anything.” - Sept 20, 2021 —Part Two: Infinite Consciousness, God Realization, Free Will, and Love - Sept 7, 2021 • The Charlie and Ben Podcast interviews Leo — Deconstructing Reality, Psychedelic Enlightenment and Spiral Dynamics - May 7, 2021 • Leo Interviews Martin Ball - Using 5-MeO-DMT To Become Enlightened (ep.#283) - Nov 20, 2016 • Leo Interviews Peter Ralston (29 videos) - Nov 9, 2016 • Leo Interviews Dating Coach Tripp Advice- How To Be An Attractive Man. (ep.#176) - Nov 2, 2014
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This was shared by a friend @HMD its in my mother tongue urdu but has subtitles It hints at nonduality.... https://youtu.be/Ef4gGOX1F4o?si=O2IDlz-8OK6H6Y1N
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▶️ Leo’s Blog: Videos, Summaries and Interviews ▶️ (Most blog videos are 45-60 mins, some are 2 hrs (of course ) Videos are listed in reverse chronological order, for the most part.) Epistemology ⁉️ 🤔 💡 • Apr 21, 2021: Sherlock Holmes' Brain • Mar 21, 2021: Why Debates Don't Work • Feb 25, 2021: Learning From Partially False Perspectives • Aug 23, 2019: My Critique Of Zizek's Critique Of Buddhism • Aug 19, 2019: Why Are My Videos So Long? • Aug 15, 2019: How To Test For Self-Bias • Jun 27, 2019: Sense Organs Are Imaginary • Oct 22, 2018: Skepticism & Nonduality • Sept 16, 2018: Metaphysics vs Epistemology • Sept 4, 2018: All Understanding Is Metaphoric • Oct 3, 2018: All Understanding Is Metaphoric - Part 2 • Dec 21, 2017: Changing Perspectives Destroys Reality (note) • Dec 9, 2017: Understanding Better Than Academics Enlightenment 🤯 • Feb 29, 2020: What It's Like To Smoke Salvia Divinorum (note) • Feb 5, 2020: Explaining God For Dummies • Dec 17, 2019: Miracle Awakening • Dec 15, 2019: Ego-Collapse Awakening • Jul 17, 2019: Infinite Love Awakening • Jun 21, 2019: DPT: The Other God Molecule (Summary) • Jun 11, 2019: Total Omniscience Awakening • Nov 29, 2017: Absolute Infinity Demo (10 mins) Life Purpose 💪 😤 • Aug 23, 2021: Extra Insights About Good Intentions 🤯 (Summary) • Feb 28, 2021: Guerilla Business Advice (Summary) • Jul 22, 2020: Requisite Variety & Creative Laziness • Jul 11, 2019: Tapping Into Collective Consciousness 🤯 • Oct 8, 2018: How I Started My First Business • Sep 10, 2018: Why Get Rich Quick Schemes Don't Work Society & Politics 🌎 🏛️ • Nov 26, 2020: Conscious Capitalism BS • Jul 8, 2020: Deconstructing Property Rights • Apr 17, 2020: Why Bernie Sanders Lost (note) • Aug 21, 2019: Rethinking Human History • Oct 23, 2019: Why The Media Is Corrupt • Oct 7, 2019: The Big Picture Of Global Politics • Jan 23, 2019: My Political Awakening (Essay) • Sep 6, 2018: Inside The Mind Of Trump • Jan 10, 2018: Life Lessons From "Life Below Zero" (note) Yoga 🧘🏼 • Mar 6, 2018: Sitting Posture For Yoga & Meditation (9 mins) • Mar 6, 2018: Don't Half-Ass Yoga (note) Leo’s Health & Life 🍎 🥗 • Feb 18, 2022: Explaining Take-Down & New Awakening • Apr 9, 2021: Water Fast Ends, Carnivore Diet Begins • Mar 17, 2021: 14 Day Water Fast • Feb 5, 2021: Back From 2 Month Break, Updates (Summary) • Jul 21, 2020: My Health Situation • Jul 7, 2019: Do I Doubt Myself? Retreats 🏝️ 🧘🏼 🍄 Leo’s Retreat at Home: 🏡 • May 31, 2018: May 2018 Solo Retreat - Part 1 • Jun 4, 2018: May 2018 Solo Retreat - Part 2 • Jun 8, 2018: May 2018 Solo Retreat - Part 3 💪 Leo’s Retreats in Hawaii: 🌺 • Apr 26, 2018: Second Hawaii Retreat Intro (19 mins) • May 1, 2018: Hawaii Late Night Insights 🌃 • Apr 22, 2018: Conclusion: Mindfucked In Hawaii 🍄 • Feb 25, 2018: First Hawaii Retreat - Feb 2018 (8 videos) 🌴 Leo’s Retreat in Arizona: 🏕️ 🏜️ • May 7, 2017: Solo Retreat Videos & Insights (10 videos) Interviews with Leo 🎙️ • Sept 20, 2021: The Theories of Everything Podcast interviews Leo — Ego Death, God, Reality vs Dream, TOEs, and an "Ask Me Anything.” (Part Two) • Sept 7, 2022: The Theories of Everything Podcast interviews Leo — Infinite Consciousness, God Realization, Free Will, and Love (Part One). • May 7, 2021: The Charlie and Ben Podcast interviews Leo — Deconstructing Reality, Psychedelic Enlightenment and Spiral Dynamics. • Nov 20, 2016: Leo Interviews Martin Ball - Using 5-MeO-DMT To Become Enlightened. (ep.#283) • Nov 9, 2016: Leo Interviews Peter Ralston. • Nov 2, 2014: Leo Interviews Tripp Advice - How To Be An Attractive Man. (ep.#176) Articles ✍️ • Leo’s “20 Dream Killers” article. • Leo’s "Personal Development Blueprint.” (covers over 100 Self-Help concepts) Viewer Compilations 🥳 • Incredible, Powerful Concepts on Life & 5-MeO-DMT 🤯 • Building a Passionate Life • The BEST Strategy to Attract SUCCESS
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your sense of reality is gonna be twisted and shaken up like a snowglobe! i suggest a trip sitter cuz i was stupid and decided to smoke this stuff in my treehouse (yes i fell out LOL) thats an example of being incredibly stupid with psychedelics it could have fucking killed me a trip sitter would be good for you if you have especially poor judgement like myself. lesson learned. you may lose motor control so try not to be near windows i hear people like jumping through them on this stuff. overall i always had agood experience on salvia IT WAS ALWAYS UNCOMFORTABLE! but i never had exactly a bad tryp. although i know for damn well i could say to infinity and beyond and just smoke as much as i can and maybe never recover mentally thats how powerful this stuff is. start with a low dose to see how ur body feels i remember it felt almost familiar in a way the first time i smoked it like being stoned beyond comprehension. i thought it was funny as fuck but that was just a half bowl of 10x. once you are comfortable with it at a low dose that will actually help eliminate some of the anxiety you may otherwise have. move up and take a decent dose (or high if you want do whatever u want i suggest suggest start with a small and say hi to salvia first before u decide to have full blown angry bdsm with it, you will not be the one holding the whip i PROMISE! besides this, have fun enjoy its mood be open to it. its not gonna last long if things turn stale and your are gonna freak out, guerilla pounding my chest (not hard but good hits) does help me (if you can remember to do this) i guess ill describe my experience unfortunatley its the one where i fell out of the treehouse but heres the mini trip report. i had 60 x of some pretty good salvia from a reputable source my gameplan was to quickly smoke in the treehouse climb out as fast as i can and make my way to the house and just chill (thats that poor judgement i was talking about) i pack it into a bowl and light it tokes away! as im holding it till im blue in the face i felt a buzz all through my body. once i exhaled i was almost zapped into this wierd perception of whats happening around me everything around me began to do this weird funhouse effect where it was bouncing up and down left and right. i remembered that i had to get in the house to enjoy the trip. as i stood up my balance was just GONE. i would have a higher chance getting down near dead from alcohol poisoning. but what had struck me as strange was that as i stood up it was almost like these millions of entities were watching me struggle for balance and they were laughing as if i was stuck in this sitcom, they would all laugh at me every move i made that was clearly failing. i make it to the ladder i get one foot down then BAM i smack the floor i land on my shoulder and not my head thank god. the entities LOSE IT they think this is the funniest thing ever. im laying there just confused as to if i really just fell out of the treehouse. i get up and continue my perilous journey to the indoors. as i approach the house the house almost became its own entity that again had this funhouse bouncy appearance. EVERYTHING about the house screamed that the house was actually alive the windows were eyes and mouths. even as i was in the house the hallways were alive in this funhouse sort of way. i eventually do make it downstairs and sit down but im just kinda frozen in place with a "O_O" expression. i want to disclaim that i was not into nonduality at this point so i didnt have any mystical experiences i was just the soul trapped in this inter cosmic sitcom where i stumble around and fail to do things for all eternity. my life purpose was to be this fool entertaining these entities which icould hear but could not see. i guess the point of this is that your sense of reality will get CRUSHED on salvia. top advice- say hi to salvia first then take salvia on a date give her her first kiss, then maybe give her some desert after dinner. when you feel ready THEN let salvia pin you to the wall and blindfold you. i could see legitimate spiritual use for salvia but not how its conventionally used. you can get a sense of how your perception is reality and that in deep enough trips there is no you at all.
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@Leo Gura I know as a westerner, you were raised in a mostly secular environment but could connecting with God in a semi-religious semi-spiritual way be any good? It is the difference between meditation and praying. I used to pray a lot, and I can say that Praying is more emotionally engaging then meditation but Meditation is more concentrated and mind-focused pracitce. It is the difference between Buddhism and something like Sufism. Part of me is longing to do some praying but nonduality made it harder for me to do so, as it removes the distinction between you and God. I would have to pretend that God is a separate entity to do so (in some, that actually is true).
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Aztec Nonduality - Profound Life Lessons From Aztec Philosophy https://youtu.be/8GjGMWBWWKM "Brahman is real; the world is not real; Brahman is the world." - Shankara Aztec Non-duality: Leo introduces Aztec non-duality which shares similarities with various major religions, emphasizing the dynamic, self-generating essence of the universe called Teotl. He plans to detail this spiritual outlook by citing an article from the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, offering an overarching view of spirituality and God from an Aztec perspective. Concept of Teotl: Teotl is depicted as an all-encompassing, sacred power that is immanent within and transcendent beyond the universe. It signifies an interconnected cosmos that is ever-generating and regenerating, where every element is both a facet of Teotl and wholly identified with it. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Understanding of Immanence and Transcendence: Leo clarifies that Teotl represents both the tangible world (immanence) and the formless, overarching unification of the universe (transcendence), a concept paralleled in Christian theology and other spiritual traditions. Image 4 Process-Oriented View of the Universe: The universe is described not as a static object but as an ongoing process comparable to a constantly changing waterfall. This view contrasts with static perceptions of the material universe, suggesting a more fluid and dynamic reality. Image 5 Dialectical Polar Monism: Introducing the idea of dialectical polar monism, Leo explains the universe as a single entity that expresses itself through an endless interplay of opposites such as life and death, or order and disorder, reflecting a balance inherent to the cosmos. Image 6 Balance and the Cycle of Polarities: The lecture touches on the importance of balance in life, indicating that reality involves navigating between complementary opposites without rigidly clinging to any static point or trying to eliminate one side of a duality. Image 7 Materialist versus Aztec Metaphysics: Leo contrasts the materialist notion of an objective, unchanging universe with the Aztec view, which recognizes no static reality but rather an unceasing transformation and renewal of the cosmos—a principle of impermanence also found in Buddhism. Image 8 Image 9 Impermanence and Clinging: Highlighting the concept of impermanence, Leo warns against clinging to transient aspects of life such as possessions, relationships, and ideologies, advocating for a recognition of constant change as a fundamental quality of existence. Universality of Aztec Non-duality: The overall emphasis is on the universal nature of Teotl as a living, sentient cosmic process that is continuously self-transforming, aligning with the non-dual teachings expressed across multiple spiritual traditions. Dynamic Nature of Reality and Personal Growth: The constant change and development of all phenomena, including personal growth from childhood, illustrate the continuous flow and transformation characteristic of Teotl. This opposes the human tendency to cling to a static identity or state. Image 10 Dialectical Presentation of Teotl: Teotl is described dynamically, transcending the dichotomies of being and non-being, order and disorder, and other polarities. This persuasive non-duality is beyond the predication of any specific qualities and manifests as a 'third kind' that is at once both and neither of the dualistic states. Paradox of Non-duality: Teotl encompasses qualities like male and female, life and death, yet it transcends all such dualities. This presents a paradox for human understanding, which is accustomed to categorizing reality into distinct forms rather than perceiving the non-dual essence. Teotl's Ontological Indeterminacy: Nahua metaphysics points to an anti-realist view that rejects the concept of a static, fixed, objective reality. Teotl resembles Kant's noumenon, being the essence beyond all perceivable phenomena. Image 11 Pantheistic View of Nahua Philosophers: Nahua philosophy embraces pantheism, the view that all existence is a sacred, interrelated unity identical with the sacred totality of Teotl. This challenges orthodox religious views by dismissing the notion of God as a separate, anthropomorphic being. Image 12 Cosmic Artistry and Shamanic Disguise: Teotl is seen as a sacred artist, endlessly creating the cosmos in an artistic presentation. The universe is perceived as an ongoing, metaphorical performance of Teotl. Additionally, the concept of 'nahual' implies that the cosmos and its transformations are manifestations of Teotl's shamanic self-masking, illustrating the elusive and ever-changing nature of the divine. Image 13 Challenges in Recognizing God's Presence: God, the ultimate shapeshifter with no intrinsic form, is compared to a perfectly camouflaged creature in the forest, illustrating the difficulty in recognizing the divine in everyday existence without a cultivated consciousness. Image 14 Metaphor of Chameleon for God: The metaphor highlights God as the ultimate chameleon, perfectly camouflaged within existence. Materialists struggle to find evidence for God because divine presence is intricately integrated into all aspects of reality, requiring conscious recognition rather than empirical proof. Concepts of God in Various Traditions: In different religious traditions, God includes both deceptive (like the Christian devil) and transformative traits (shapeshifter), showing that God has a multifaceted character, including both creative (Maya) and deceptive (devilish) aspects. Nature of Existence According to Nahua Philosophy: Existence is characterized by three specific illusions: the perception of static entities (like humans or trees), the belief in individual, separate existences, and the apparent opposition of dualities. These are considered deceptions of Teotl, masking the true oneness and dynamic movement of all things. Image 15 The Human Mind's Deceptiveness: Leo underlines the idea that the human mind is prone to self-deception, shaping our perceptions and creating illusions that hinder our understanding of the universe. He emphasizes the need for self-inquiry and spiritual practice to transcend these illusions. Wisdom's Role in Realizing Teotl: Wisdom allows humans to discern Teotl's presence beneath its many disguises. Spiritual practices aim to penetrate the illusion and recognize "Teotl as Teotl," the empty, formless truth behind all forms. Image 16 Understanding Teotl's Metaphysical Attributes: Teotl embodies a complex set of attributes, functioning as the source, object, and standard of reality, knowledge, and aesthetic value. A dual nature of Teotl as both male and female energy is presented, balancing and sustaining the cosmic rhythm. Image 17 Image 18 Image 19 Recognizing Earthly Life as a Divine Disguise: Earthly existence is perceived as a dream or illusion, with humans often misled by Teotl's artistic self-disguise. This is not an ontological claim but an epistemic one, emphasizing the deceptive nature of ordinary human perspectives. Image 20 Image 21 Illusion Versus Ultimate Reality: Leo explains that while materialists or dualists may see non-duality as a false distinction between illusion and ultimate truth, Nahua philosophy maintains those are identically aspects of the singular reality. This concept underscores the monistic worldview that aligns with the non-dual understanding of existence. Image 22 Embodiment of Non-duality: Non-duality must integrate the absolute with relative perceptions, similar to viewing a half-full glass as both half-full and half-empty. The challenge lies in recognizing the unity of these opposing perceptions; there's only one reality that can be seen in different ways based on perspective. Perception of Teotl as the Sole Reality: According to Nahua monism, humans can only truly perceive 'Teotl', the ultimate reality. To perceive 'Teotl' directly (De Rey) is to become one with it, rather than seeing it through a veil of perception or as separate from oneself. Image 23 Human Misconception of Teotl: Humans often misperceive Teotl by seeing it under disguise or specific descriptions (De Dicto), such as maleness, death, night, etc. This prevents them from seeing Teotl as it truly is and leads to a misunderstanding of divine reality. Image 24 Direct and Indirect Perception of God: There are two modes of perceiving God: indirectly, through descriptive forms which cause delusion, and directly, through a mystical union with God that transcends language and concepts, leading to true knowledge of Teotl. Metaphysical and Epistemological Unity: To know something fully is to become it, eliminating the subject-object duality. Western philosophy struggles with the hard problem of consciousness because it relies on concepts and categories, while Nahua philosophy suggests direct knowledge through unity. Image 25 Existence on a 'Treacherous Habitat' Earth: Earthly life is viewed as precariously balanced on a 'slippery earth' full of danger. Moral misstep is likened to slipping on slick ground, causing humans to easily lose balance and suffer misfortune, underscoring the need for guidance. Image 26 Philosophy for Maintaining Balance: Nahua philosophy is practical, focused on the essential question of how humans can maintain balance in life. This contrasts with the abstract, detached analytical philosophy of the West, emphasizing the need for a practical approach to philosophical wisdom. Image 27 Applying Philosophy to Real-World Problems: Actualized.org aims to make philosophy practical by addressing real-world problems like depression, addiction, and career dissatisfaction. The goal is to help individuals live more fulfilling lives through authentic philosophical practice. Consequences of Disconnection from True Philosophy: Many societal and personal problems stem from a collective disconnection from true philosophy, leading to dysfunctional, unfulfilling lives. True philosophy, such as the Nahua's, is vital for addressing issues like war, genocide, and environmental destruction. Balancing Human Life According to Nahua Philosophy: Nahua philosophy emphasizes wisdom and balance as crucial for human beings to navigate life. Unlike the pursuit of technology or intelligence, wisdom affords stability amid an impermanent life filled with challenges. Achieving balance is dynamic, like riding a unicycle, and needs to be applied in all facets of life, from business to personal relationships. Image 28 Wisdom as Practical Dynamic Balance: Wisdom is not about holding static, eternal truths but rather about the skillful balancing of consumption, recognizing that lifestyles should be rooted in indigenous shamanism and connected to the concept of Teotl. Wisdom leads to stability and well-being by guiding actions in a balanced way. Image 29 Becoming Wise by Rooting in Teotl: True wisdom and living a good life, according to all religions, involve becoming deeply rooted in Teotl—or divine consciousness. Wisdom is not grasping eternal truths but actively maintaining balance across life's various situations. Image 30 Religion's Role in Connecting with God: Properly practiced religion should quickly connect people with God through various techniques, leading to inherently moral behavior without the need for rules or commandments. Four Aspects of Wisdom for Nahua: Wisdom includes (1) maintaining balance and purity for well-being; (2) adapting and extending the way of life inherited from ancestors; (3) participating in the regeneration and renewal of the cosmos; (4) performing ritual activities that genuinely represent Teotl. Image 31 Image 32 Interdependence and Impact of Human Actions: Nahua philosophy acknowledges a participatory universe where humans and the cosmos are mutually influential. Human actions contribute to either cosmic harmony or disharmony, reinforcing the importance of an integrated approach to existence. Image 33 Earthy Life and Juvenile Moderation: While the Nahua recognize earthly life's potential for well-being, they urge moderation in all aspects to prevent imbalance. This reflects their holistic perspective that balance cannot be found in outdated, rigid rules but requires adaptive wisdom specific to the current societal context. Image 34 Image 35 Rootedness in Teotl for an Authentic Life: Humans have a deep yearning for rootedness, often being misled by appearances of stability in various pursuits. True balance and purity stem from rootedness in Teotl, which contrasts materialistic grounding leading to dissatisfaction and repeat searching. Image 36 Wisdom over Dogmatic Moral Codes: The Nahua philosophy stresses the ability to balance dynamically rather than relying on a fixed set of moral codes, which can be inadequate and lead to imbalance in a rapidly changing world. Wisdom allows for practical flexibility and is necessary for well-being in complex modern societies. Image 37 Rooting in the Absolute Truth: The only unchanging and absolute truth, which represents stability and well-foundedness in the face of change, is equated with nothingness. This contrasts with the impermanence of language, national identities, norms, and even the human body. Consequences of Disconnection from Teotl: A disconnection from Teotl leads to a scattered, unbalanced, and beastly existence. Humans become lost, intemperate, and vicious, lacking humanity and engaging in deceptions and self-deceptions. This is reflected in various sectors of society such as politics, religion, and business, and in personal relationships. Force Cannot Instill Consciousness of Teotl: Coercing or indoctrinating individuals to understand Teotl through dogmatic or ideological means is counterproductive. Genuine consciousness of Teotl cannot be substituted with ideas or beliefs about it; it requires a higher state of consciousness and practice for proper, decent living. Image 38 Importance of Proper Education: Current education systems fail to prepare individuals to be decent human beings. They should instead teach children philosophy, metaphysics, spirituality, and proper scientific thinking within bounds. The lack of such education contributes to societal and environmental pollution. Societal Contagion Methods: The prevalence of materialism and disconnection from Teotl acts like a contagion, spreading through various channels such as the media and influencing different sectors like healthcare and government. Attempts to cure this contagion without proper understanding may exacerbate the problem. Epistemological Cognition and Balance: Nahuas view well-grounded stability in cognition as walking in balance on slippery earth. Their concept of truth is non-semantic, emphasizing stability and well-rootedness rather than correspondence or descriptions. Image 39 Western Intellectual Tradition's Misinterpretation of Truth: Western philosophy and science often misunderstand the essence of truth, treating it as statements or propositions. True understanding is deeper than language and demands direct insight, which most do not seek, leading to a fundamental disconnection from truth. Image 40 Spectrum of Authentic Representations of Teotl: There is a continuum ranging from authentically embodying and representing Teotl to those poorly rooted in it. The effectiveness and truthfulness of everything, from personal actions to commercial products, are evaluated on this continuum. Disclosing and Unconcealing Truth Through Entities: Genuine and authentic entities that are well-rooted in Teotl can reveal the profound truth, providing people with better access to this understanding. Societal institutions need to foster systems that are revealing of Teotl for collective well-being. Heart Over Head in Knowing Teotl: True knowledge of Teotl comes through the heart, characterized by a holistic mindset, rather than the left hemisphere of the brain which is logical and demanding. Living from the heart leads to better health, less selfishness, and fulfillment of life's mission through love and wisdom. Image 41 Image 42 Experiencing Platonic Existential Love: As one recognizes themselves as Teotl and feels intimately connected with the universe, they relinquish judgment and tribalism, leading to the experience of platonic existential metaphysical love that embraces all as facets of Teotl. Ineffability of Teotl: Teotl is ultimately ineffable, a seamless totality unrelated to language, concepts, or categories. True experience of Teotl comes non-rationally and without symbolic or linguistic mediation, as these are merely facets of its disguise. Image 43 Limits of Symbolic Consciousness: Ordinary human consciousness is trapped in a symbolic, conceptual realm, thinking in terms of models and quantifications. One needs non-symbolic consciousness to truly understand Teotl, as it is beyond finite models and symbols. Role of Art in Presenting Teotl: Song poems and artistic creation are the highest forms of human artistry that closely imitate Teotl's cosmic creativity. Great art comes from a Teotlized heart and reveals the beauty and truth of Teotl. Image 44 Artistic Expression and Life Purpose: Developing a "Teotlized" heart and engaging in creative activities can improve one's connection to Teotl. Finding one’s life purpose in artistic expression is crucial, as creation is a core aspect of Teotl and personal fulfillment. Acquiring a Teotlized Heart: To truly know Teotl, one must lead a balanced, pure, moral, and moderate life, showing respect and humility towards Teotl. Without authenticity and moral righteousness, the knowledge of Teotl remains elusive. Image 45 Interdependence of Epistemology, Morality, and Aesthetics: Becoming knowledgeable about Teotl involves not just intellectual understanding but also moral and aesthetic self-improvement, as they are intertwined in living a balanced and beautiful life connected to Teotl. Image 46 Reciprocal Moral Relationship with Teotl: Knowing Teotl is part of a moral exchange; moral conduct leads to the merits of wisdom and beauty. This interaction is essential for understanding Teotl, highlighting the interconnectedness of moral behavior and epistemological enrichment. Image 47 Consequences of Mechanical Morality: People who try to be good through mechanical means without raising their consciousness often feel guilt and shame. Authentic self-improvement comes from becoming more conscious, leading to a natural desire to live a better life. Morality is crucial for creating a conducive environment for spiritual growth among all community members, not just the deeply dedicated individuals. Humaneness and Flourishing through Balance and Purity: Living in balance and purity perfects humanness and leads to flourishing. Conversely, the absence of these qualities degrades humaneness and causes suffering. Teotl, embodying beauty and purity, sets the ultimate standard of value. Virtual connection with Teotl is essential for balance and purity. Image 48 Beauty in Nature as a Reflection of Teotl: Observing the natural world, such as peacock tail feathers or animals, can illustrate the beauty inherent in Teotl's design, contrasting with man-made objects that lack symmetry and order, reflecting a disconnection from Teotl. Evolution drives towards higher beauty, consciousness, and balance, aligning with Teotl's principles. Moral Conduct as Path to Authenticity: Morally appropriate behavior develops one's authentic human nature, enriches life, and cultivates a good heart. In contrast, morally inappropriate actions leave individuals undeveloped and impoverished. Moderation in all pursuits, as advocated in Buddhist and Aristotelian philosophy, is the key to wisdom and balance. Image 49 Image 50 Health Issues as Byproduct of Lifestyle: Conditions such as autoimmune diseases, mental illnesses, and heart disease are not merely accidental but result from how individuals live, including diet and mindset. Societal spoilage stems from a collective disconnect from Teotl, leading to an imbalance between oneself and the environment. Purpose of Education: The true aim of education is to cultivate a wise and robust character, instilling the means to maintain balance in life. Modern education fails to provide this, focusing on academic achievements. Still, one can take individual responsibility for their own furthered education in wisdom and authenticity. Image 51 Role of Educator and Ritual Activities: The educator's task is to shape character and foster a connection to Teotl. Addressing issues like addiction requires rituals and techniques that restore balance and purity. Modern society needs new, relevant methods to realign with the heart and Teotl. Image 52 Interplay of Aesthetics, Morality, and Knowledge: Aesthetic value correlates with moral and epistemological value. Balance, truth, and purity enhance aesthetic appeal, while disorder and impurity reflect ugliness. Appropriate techniques and rituals should be developed to address specific imbalances and reclaim connection with Teotl. Image 53 Image 54 Artistic Integrity and Business Alignment: Genuine artistic creations and business operations should be well-rooted, balanced, true, and pure, reflecting and disclosing Teotl or ultimate reality. Leo critiques businesses that are detached from Teotl, causing ecological and societal damage, and suggests striving to align business practices with Teotl to promote balance and purity in the cosmos. Aesthetic Value and Moral Uprightness: Art and creative endeavors are aesthetically valuable when they present and embody Teotl, contributing positively to cosmic balance and purity. This requires a "Teotlized" heart, implying that the individual must be morally upright and aligned with ultimate truth to produce such work. Image 55 Image 56 Materialism and Environmental Collapse: Leo points to the harmful impacts of businesses operated by people who lack a connection to Teotl, such as environmental destruction and social conflicts. He considers the rational-materialistic focus damaging, leading to widespread suffering and instability. Upright Behavior and Knowledge of Truth: Leo asserts that those who are unaware of Teotl create destructive art and business practices. He underscores the necessity for creators and leaders to be morally upright to contribute positively to society and the environment. Image 57 Life, Suffering, and Transience: Drawing parallels with Buddhist teachings on suffering and impermanence, Leo emphasizes the importance of connecting to Teotl to minimize personal and societal suffering. This connection can transform one's life into a beautiful and noble existence, akin to "flowering and singing." Image 58 Life Blueprint and Self-Connection: Leo reiterates the importance of connecting with one's true nature, Teotl, to lead a fulfilling life. He describes this as the "master blueprint" for an amazing life and warns against the futility of seeking satisfaction in transient worldly pursuits. Religion and Its Essence: Encouraging a deep understanding of religion, Leo asks materialists and atheists to contemplate the significance of religion and find the kernel of truth it holds. He advocates an integral approach to spiritual texts, gleaning from them the high-level concepts and techniques to apply to one's life, transcending dogmatic and orthodox views. Integrative Approach to Wisdom: Leo advises studying a variety of spiritual and philosophical texts to triangulate on wisdom and truth. He emphasizes the value of ancient scriptures while cautioning against becoming overly attached to any single tradition to avoid spiritual traps and broaden one's understanding of truth. Undervaluing Religion's Wisdom: Leo criticizes the materialist view that dismisses religion as outdated superstition. He highlights the importance of recognizing the valuable role religion has played in human societies across history and seeks to uncover the deeper truths contained within spiritual traditions. Expecto Patronum
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Which video series of Leo's will give me a deeper understanding of nonduality? Would it be the 'Understanding duality' series? Also anyone got any good book recommendations for better understanding?
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Any ideas? Was it because he was so stuck in his mind and so attached to theorizing? Or what? Surely he must've known about it, he has studied (whatever that meant to him) all kinds of spiritual traditions. But he said they didn't show him what he was looking for, until he found psychedelics. But why is it then that I can't even find a single talk where he speaks of nonduality? And trust me, I've listened to everything...? I know that he wasn't very interested in spirituality as such to begin with, but still - you can't tell me that in 30 years of doing high doses of psychedelics he never experienced oneness/nonduality. I remember in one of his talks he spoke of enlightenment as "an act of rational apprehension"... So yeah. Guess he didn't study spirituality very deeply. Side question for @Leo Gura how much influence did Terence McKenna have on your relationship with psychedelics?
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First Post I'm making here on the Forum. This Discussion should tie into the following interests of this particular branch of the Forum. Self-Actualization, Self-Improvement Spirituality, Consciousness, Enlightenment, Nonduality, Meditation, Mindfulness Mysticism, Yoga, Lucid Dreaming, Paranormal, Channeling, Chakras, etc. Discussing & Sharing Spiritual Techniques Perhaps I should give a bit of background of myself before I begin the topic. I was brought up in a pretty regular kind of Christianity, pretty chill, on the spectrum of types of Christians. I went to Christian Summer camps at times, attended a Christian private school for a couple years, and had/have a fair amount of relative invested in the Christian World as it generally is. As I got older, my time in public school brought me into contact with *gasp* nonbelievers, atheist's, nay! infidels, that challenged shook my belief a bit. I begin to question, look for answers online, watch online debates. I found Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris. Watching the debates resulted in a sobering disillusionment in what I thought was true. Now I was an athiest! My mind unshackled by dogma and ignorance, muahahaha! (I was rather cocky whatever my views, it would seem). I attended Christian Bible studies in college and critiqued the book and beliefs that had no sense or evidence to them... yadayadayada, time went on, but Sam Harris's interest in spirituality and meditation opened a new door, that would lead to something else. My interest in meditation put me in some spiritualish lanes of information, Alan Watts, for one, a delightful discovery. I don't know if I was really just interested in the strongest conceptual club (as in weapon) I could wield, but I suppose Watts, others, and to great technical definition, Leo, changed my understanding of God. From worshipping God, laughing at the notion of God, to, apparently being God/rebecoming myself as God, aye-yaiyai! Neville Goddard's writing, it would turn out, led me to a new understanding of the Bible and connected it to the other consciousness work I was involved in. I hope that this background info will create the understanding that I am not dogmatic about this matter or allegiant to Christianity in particular, and that this matter can be relevant to everyone, regardless of familiarity with the book, believer, former Christian, atheist, former atheist, buddhist or what have you (perhaps it can even help the God realized O_O?) Hello my fellow explorers and guardians of consciousness, over the last, two? years, I've come across actual comprehension of what the stories in the Bible, to a large degree are about, and was wondering how widespread the truth and ignorance of the Bible are spread in this time and place. From what I gather, for something of its impact in this time, the Bible may be the most misunderstood thing on this Earth. This may be a larger problem of the symbolism of religion being reduced to its surface feature by most of its adherents, but, from the little I've seen, and if I may risk being hyperbolic, it appears that. . . NOBODY F*%&ING UNDERSTANDS THE BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heh, phew, I really need to get this off my mind, so if you would be so kind as to help me get the lay of the land here, can you share your understanding of what we now know of the Bible is all about. I'm mainly interested in the ahistorical meaning the parables are meant to convey, which are all related to mechanics of consciousness and the mind, from what I've gathered of Neville Goddard's analyses as well as the talk of mythologist Bill Donahue. If you want to include historical and other facets of it, or even insights into other myths/parables of other religions, such as Odin, the Bhagavad Gita, Greek Myth, go ahead! (Even nursery rhymes or more humble sources could be included) Depending on what answers are given here, I may be compelled to go on an endless tirade into elucidating the richness of those long forgotten secrets, unearthing them into the glaring light of day once more! I'll make a list, and we can discuss the symbolism of these different, famous tales, and if they have any relevance to the consciousness work/interest of the good members of this forum and all that good ol' Awakening jazz Things/Stories in what is now the Bible: (feel free to give your analysis, interpretation, or what have you) Eden (This includes a lot of stuff, such as what is the Garden, what is/who is Adam, the serpent, Eve, the two trees, the two fruits of the trees, and the Fall out of Paradise) What's up with Cain and Abel What is the meaning of Noah's Ark and the Flood Sodom and Gomorrah Joseph, of the Coat of Many Colors The Exodus Story, who is Moses, who is Pharoah, and what is it all about? Very comparable to the Bhagavad Gita, methinks. Desert stuff... What is the Ark of the Covenant? David and Goliath (and all the subsequent David narrative if you prefer, David does a lot o' stuff) (Elvis Singing)Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho. Joshua fought the battle of Jericho, and the walls came atumblin' down (favorite of mine) What's all the miraculous births about? The whole trifecta of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has a lot to it (in particular, Isaac's vs Ishmael's birth, the fight for old blind Isaac's blessing between Jacob and Esau) oh! and the often puzzling story of Job and his ordeal New Testament Jesus, Jesus, Jesus Who is he, what is he, what the hecks he talkin bout, what do his miracles mean/represent. What is the Cross, what is the Manger, what is the Virgin Mary, what's up with the fish, bread and wine, the walkin' on water, and the Disciples. Was it historical, what relevance does it have to me and you, and the biggee, What is the Crucifixion (what is the Cross?) and the Resurrection. Lot's of Jesus stuff available to discuss. (Odd observation in the similarity between Odin and Christ in parts, it seems they share deeper aspects. An irony, given the historical hate between the two faiths. *Bonus content, Misc. New Testament stuff, Paul n' stuff Revelations O_O (not too deep into this, tell me if you got any insight here) Major Themes (Please chime in on these) What is the Biblical God? Why does it introduce itself as "I AM that I AM"? PRAYER*!!! What is prayer, why do it, does it work, how to do it properly, prayer! prayer! prayer! Huge insights available when you realize what Prayer is about Bonus Points Numerology in the scriptures (I'm sure you could easily remember several numbers that come up again and again in the Bible, I was surprised at the system in place for this, finally find out what 666 means! :O! o~ooooh! Spooky!) Astrology mentions in the Bible Historical Origins (Tail end, tangential topic) Discuss how the Bible stories stole their wisdom from Egypt and Zoroastrianism, myths and all! In closing, what is the Bible? Is it important, especially to you in your modern, non desert life? What's it about? Can we get any use out of it? Does it have anything to do with other thing we talk about here at Actualized.org? Find out Next Time, on the Next Exciting Episode of Dragon Ball Z !!!
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Skepticism & Nonduality https://www.actualized.org/insights/skepticism-and-nonduality Skepticism in identity: Skeptics often pride themselves on their identity, seeking hard facts and avoiding superstitions. However, they may not realize that true skepticism involves questioning all aspects of reality, including the foundations of science and rationality, not just what is considered woo-woo or supernatural. Conflating spirituality with religion: Skeptics tend to dismiss spirituality along with religion due to their association with delusion and nonsense. This conflation leads to a misunderstanding of spirituality and non-duality, which are about deep inquiry rather than belief systems. Actualizing skepticism: True spirituality is the fruition of skepticism taken to its logical end, resulting in radical and comprehensive questioning. It implies doubting not only overt beliefs but the subtleties of our worldviews and assumed rationality. Relativity of reason: Reason is shown to be relative and culturally dependent, with the notion of rationality varying across time and cultures. Skeptics often overlook this and assume rationality is an objective yardstick for truth, which is a mistaken belief that self-identified skeptics rarely question. Systematic deconstruction: Leo emphasizes the importance of deconstructing all beliefs, questioning our reliance on physical reality, the workings of our brains, and even skepticism itself. This process is not just psychological but extends to the very nature of reality, challenging physical existence and the certainty of our perceptions. Consequences of radical skepticism: Total skepticism challenges the very nature of reality, suggesting that through such deep questioning, one could even dismantle physical reality itself. This level of skepticism is not just a curious intellectual exercise, but a life-threatening pursuit, as it can make one question the existence of everything, including the self. Transition to spirituality: When skepticism is pushed to its absolute limits, it paradoxically becomes a spiritual endeavor. By questioning the line between reality and fantasy to the utmost degree, the skeptic might experience a collapse of physical reality, leading to a profound encounter with the absolute truth or the divine, which is revealed to be the infinite. The ego's deception: The mind or ego adopts skepticism as a guise to prevent true inquiry. This self-deception is evident when skeptics hold onto the identity as a defense mechanism against enlightenment. The ego co-opts skepticism to ensure survival based on constructs, not the ultimate truth. Skepticism's historical roots and misunderstanding: Skepticism as a philosophy dates back to ancient Greece, specifically to Pyrrho of Elis. Although skepticism is intended to doubt everything, Western philosophy and society have often failed to embrace its full radical potential, holding on to constructive biases instead. Western philosophy's deviation from radical skepticism: Western philosophy, following the era of Pyrrho and Sextus Empiricus, shifted away from complete skepticism to constructing new philosophical systems, thus deviating from the pursuit of absolute truth. Constructive bias in science and society: Science's inherent bias towards constructing explanations and society's focus on survival over truth-seeking promote a constructive rather than deconstructive approach, influencing the investigation of reality and often overshadowing the pursuit of ultimate truth. Self-interest as a barrier to enlightenment: Many avoid the extremities of skepticism and the deconstructive path to enlightenment due to a fundamental selfishness and fear of losing one's life as it is known, despite having access to all the necessary information and teachings. The undoubtable nature of enlightenment: Enlightenment transcends thought, perception, and experience; it can't be doubted because it's the absence of all knowledge rather than an addition to it, and represents absolute truth after the destruction of all beliefs and constructs. The ego's role in skepticism: The ego, likened to the devil, uses skepticism selectively to distort reality and avoid truly questioning existence. It cherry-picks evidence to suit survival rather than truth and uses skepticism as a self-deception mechanism to prevent the realization of fundamental truths. Leap of faith in absolute skepticism: True skepticism requires a leap of faith, a willingness to question and potentially dismantle everything one knows and loves, ultimately leading to profound realizations about the nature of existence and the reasons behind all of existence. Confringo
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Breakingthewall replied to Cosmic-Resplendence's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nonduality means that everything is the same substance, but that substance is divided infinitely. It is still one but it is many. -
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YES! Duality and nonduality are two conplementary sides of one and the same coin... nonduality implies duality and vice versa. Without duality, God could not become visible to itself! So the "illusion" of form serves a very crucial function: It turns consciousness into experience. Yin & Yang ftw! -
There’s a certain practicality of skepticism and surety in one’s own worldview to ever progress on the path really as these are all normal, sensate and transient bundles of sensations pointing to something more primary than sensations which is the nature of what the holon of human vs. god vs. nonexistence vs. not thinking about a moonwalking bear vs. you reading this right now… we’ll forget everything I just said. It’s all gone. The aspect of fresh present ness is now ruined by the CONTINUITY of it in a formless mind state. You are so much desire and aversion that the friction created by your most fundamental investigation creates an illusion harder than any truth that does or doesn’t last in time as a defined thing. Haha. Wtf.
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Deconstructing The Myth Of Science - Part 3 https://youtu.be/FeOIuybpfgc "Systems, scientific and philosophic, come and go. Each method of limited understanding is at length exhausted. In its prime each system is a triumphant success: in its decay, it is an obstructive nuisance." - Alfred North Whitehead "The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence." - Nikola Tesla Potential misuse of deconstructing science: Leo Gura warns of the dangers associated with the deconstruction of science, cautioning that individuals with pre-rational perspectives might exploit his critique to justify science denial and conspiracy theories. He emphasizes that this undertaking's intention is not to affirm baseless ideologies but to advance intellectual progress through honest self-examination. Actualized.org as a process, not an ideology: Gura clarifies that Actualized.org is not pushing a specific philosophy or ideology but rather advocates for the mental deconstruction of all beliefs, including one's own. This process is intended to lead to freedom and liberation from all ideologies, not the establishment of a new one. Acknowledgment of visionary scientists: Leo acknowledges the presence of high-quality, visionary scientists who have transcended materialist and rationalist paradigms. However, he notes their rarity and lack of mainstream recognition due to prevailing institutional paradigms that do not favor post-rational science. Science and language are inseparable: Leo highlights the deep connection between science and language, emphasizing that modern science cannot operate without the linguistic labels and categories. He discusses the evolution of language in tandem with scientific progress, and how its constructive role may influence our understanding of reality. Subconscious and metaphysical baggage of language: Gura points out that every word, even seemingly straightforward terms like "rabbit," carries subconscious implications and implicit metaphysical baggage. He questions the taken-for-granted nature of words and their meaning in science, suggesting that our minds and language may be so intertwined that it becomes hard to distinguish their origins and influences on our perception of reality. Challenging the assumption of language's solely descriptive role: Gura argues against the notion that language is merely descriptive, instead proposing that it actively constructs our perception of reality. He suggests that language acts as an augmented reality system, overlaying and projecting onto raw phenomena. The possibility of experiencing reality without language: Leo challenges the audience to contemplate the potential of experiencing reality without language, highlighting the limitations that language can impose. He suggests that scientists' lack of awareness about meditative practices prevents them from exploring non-linguistic modes of experiencing reality, which could offer a more direct insight into its nature. Non-Linguistic Understanding of Reality: Linguistic approaches have dominated human perception of reality, but there may exist non-linguistic ways to approach and understand reality which have not been sufficiently explored or validated scientifically. Scientific Validation of Linguistic Modality: The scientific community has largely operated under the assumption that language is the best tool for understanding reality without thoroughly testing and validating this assumption against non-linguistic methods. Challenge to Scientists: Leo challenges scientists to experience reality for one minute without linguistic thought to reveal potential biases in their understanding, as constant linguistic thinking suggests an entanglement with a specific mode of perception. Inherent Duality of Language: Language intrinsically imposes a dualistic framework onto reality by creating categories and oppositional pairings, which may not align with nature’s potential nonduality. Methodological Bias of Science: Modern science is criticized for not realizing that its methodological reliance on dualistic categorization could be projecting unnatural divisions onto a fundamentally nondual reality. Critique of Common Scientific Terms: Leo urges scientists to deeply contemplate common scientific labels, such as "experience," "reality," and "existence," noting that these terms are often used without a full understanding of their implications and are products of the mind. Semantic Significance in Science: Every term used in scientific exploration shapes our understanding and must be deeply questioned; this is not merely semantic wordplay but affects how scientists, and society at large, conceptualize and interact with reality. The Map-Territory Distinction: Leo warns against confusing symbolic models and representations with reality itself, highlighting that while models are refined over time, they will never truly embody the complete truth of the territory they attempt to represent. Inherent bias towards symbolic representation in science: Leo Gura criticizes science for being heavily biased towards exploring reality through thinking, symbolism, and representation via modeling. He argues that this limits scientists to only one modality, overlooking direct methods of understanding reality that do not rely on thinking or symbolic mechanisms. Possibility of direct consciousness of reality: He suggests the potential for direct consciousness of reality—direct access to the absolute truth without the intermediaries of models or symbols. This method differs from the conventional scientific approach and is not yet taught or recognized within academia, which focuses primarily on symbolic representation. Definition of science and its future expansion: Leo challenges the current narrow definition of science and proposes that it should be expanded to include direct experiences and consciousness. He predicts that the perception of what is considered science will evolve drastically over the next couple of centuries. Limitations of the scientific consensus: He foresees that mainstream academia is unlikely to accept his views in the short term because they defy entrenched worldviews and professional reputations. Change within science frequently follows the retirement or passing of older generations and the fresh perspectives brought by younger scientists. Scientists trapped in their models: Leo notes that scientists often become overly attached to their models, mistaking them for reality itself. This attachment becomes an obstacle to deeper understanding, as models are inherently simplified and limited representations of the complex and infinite nature of reality. The "Substance Problem" in scientific inquiry: Leo highlights a critical issue he dubs the "substance problem" in science, where science does not—and arguably cannot—explain the true essence of anything. Science can describe how entities behave but fails to address what they fundamentally are. Circular Definitions in Scientific Explanation: He critiques the use of circular definitions in scientific explanation, where terms are continuously redefined in terms of others without ever arriving at a fundamental understanding of what these terms actually signify. Symbolic representation's limitations in grasping substance: Leo asserts that symbolic representation cannot provide a direct understanding of the substance of entities. This realization undermines the belief that physics or any other field can truly get to the essence of what things are through their traditional methods. Philosophical dismissal as a defense against substance questions: He notes that many scientists dismiss philosophical inquiry into the substance of things as impractical or irrelevant, labeling it as a job for philosophers and not scientists. However, Leo argues that understanding the substance is not only possible but vital, requiring methods outside of current scientific practices. Misconception of Substance Questions in Science: Leo critiques the scientific community for disregarding substance questions as irrelevant or meaningless. He challenges scientists to become directly conscious of the substance of any aspect of reality, highlighting that traditional science avoids answering "what is" type questions, which he believes is a dogmatic limitation. Arthur Eddington's Perspective on Substance Questions: Leo shares a quote from physicist Arthur Eddington, who expressed skepticism about the ability of science to address substantial truths. Eddington's viewpoint suggests that scientific methods lead to a "shadow world of symbols" rather than to concrete reality, emphasizing the inability of physics to define the intrinsic nature of the atom. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Methodological Error in Science: Leo argues that a significant methodological error within science is the belief that reality can only be investigated through a network of pointer readings and symbolic models. He insists there is something profound beyond these symbols, which scientists miss due to dogmatism and close-mindedness. The Validity of Unconventional Scientific Methods: He posits that to validate any scientific claim, one must use the method prescribed by the claimant, not an alternative method. This principle is demonstrated through the necessity to use a telescope, not binoculars, to observe Jupiter's moons, asserting the right of the claimant to dictate the validation method. Contemplation as a Valid Scientific Method: Leo defends contemplation as a bona fide scientific method, arguing that refusing to accept it due to its unconventional nature is itself unscientific. He claims that deep contemplation can verify truths that cannot be found in books or nature. Empirical Claim of Identity and Consciousness: Leo makes an empirical claim that one is not truly human and can experience being an inanimate object. He introduces Salvia as a method for experimenting with consciousness, potentially demonstrating that personal identity can shift dramatically under its influence. Prejudgment and the Openness of Science: He criticizes the prejudgment of unconventional methods and claims without actual experimentation, emphasizing that true science requires open-mindedness and the willingness to personally test methods, even if they appear unorthodox. Inherent Dangers in Scientific Exploration: Leo recognizes the intrinsic dangers of scientific exploration, exemplified by the potential risks of using Salvia. He argues that danger does not invalidate science; instead, it often accompanies groundbreaking discoveries, as seen historically with pioneers of radiation. The Evolution of Science through Testing Beliefs: Leo suggests that science advances through the testing of beliefs, challenging listeners to personally experience and test his claims. He emphasizes that personal experience is necessary for validating scientific claims, regardless of whether the method of validation fits traditional scientific criteria. Fear and scientific truth: Many individuals claim to be interested in scientific truth but are actually more concerned with comfort, survival, and defending their belief systems, indicating a lack of genuine scientific pursuit. The "Black Hole Problem" in sharing radical discoveries: Scientists who experience radical shifts in understanding, such as finding out they're not actually human through psychedelic experiences, face the "black hole problem" where they cannot convey this to others who haven't shared the same experience. Direct experience as a requirement for paradigm shift: Convincing others of profound scientific discoveries often necessitates them having the same direct experiences, which they may be reluctant to have due to closed-mindedness towards unconventional methods. The softness of "hard sciences" and the challenge of "soft sciences": Contrary to popular belief, "hard sciences" like physics avoid addressing fundamental questions about reality, making them less concrete than typically assumed. "Soft sciences" like psychology are inherently more difficult due to their complex, holistic nature. The artificial hierarchy between sciences and bias towards reductionism: The belief that hard sciences are more tangible and important than soft sciences is debunked as reductionist bias. All aspects of reality, including the softer, more emotional elements, are equally valid and should not be artificially ranked. Relativity of terms 'natural', 'supernatural', and 'paranormal': What is considered to be 'supernatural' or 'paranormal' today may, with time and scientific development, be reclassified as 'natural', illustrating the shifting nature of these terms, and suggesting they're largely arbitrary labels. Challenge against false distinctions in science definitions: Leo Gura criticizes the distinctions between science and pseudoscience, and natural and supernatural, as being abstract barriers created by current scientific paradigms rather than grounded in the actual investigation of phenomena. Science and Magic as Interchangeable: Leo Gura explains that what we currently see as technology might have been perceived as magic in the past, and advanced future technology, if presented today, would seem magical to us. This suggests that the boundary between science and magic is porous and based on familiarity and understanding, not on absolute differences. Relativity of Scientific Terms: Leo emphasizes the relativity of terms such as 'natural,' 'physical,' and 'normal' within science, pointing out that these are context-dependent and change with time as our collective understanding evolves. Misunderstanding of Objectivity and Subjectivity: He criticizes science's misunderstanding of objectivity and subjectivity, showing that the very process of doing science is subjective, as it occurs within human consciousness, which is inherently subjective. Consciousness as the Foundation of Reality: Leo contests the scientific marginalization of consciousness, arguing that it is the most fundamental component of reality. He contends that everything in science occurs within consciousness and there is nothing beyond it, asserting that the current scientific paradigm is incapable of understanding consciousness. Science as Relative to Human Neurology: Leo claims that science is not studying an external reality but is essentially mapping the neurology of human consciousness. If human neurology were to change, the entirety of science as we know it would change. The Self-Reference Problem of Science: He discusses the issue where science tries to explain itself using tools incapable of such introspection, likening it to an eyeball trying to look at itself or a snake trying to eat its own tail. Science as a Perception: Leo posits that science is ultimately just a perception, with the material world, brain, and reality all being perceptions. Hence, science itself is a perception within a perception, leading to the conclusion that all of science could be a hallucination. Circularity of Scientific Substance: He challenges scientists to explain the substance of science itself, demonstrating the circularity of scientific explanations that rely on concepts like atoms, quarks, and strings, which ultimately trace back to thoughts or perceptions. Imagination as the Basis of Science: Leo states that all of science is nothing but imagination, putting forward the notion that scientific concepts and the material world are as imaginary as unicorns or Santa Claus. Map vs. Territory in Understanding Science: He distinguishes between the map (theories and ideas about science provided in his lecture) and the territory (the actual empirical understanding of reality), urging listeners to move beyond the map to arrive at the territory themselves. State of Consciousness Dictates Scientific Truths: Leo explains that scientific truths are valid only within a certain state of consciousness. Different states, such as drunkenness or dreaming, can negate the relevance of scientific truths, indicating their dependency on our normal state of consciousness. Subjectivity of States of Consciousness: Leo Gura questions the special status of our ordinary waking state of consciousness, suggesting that it's only one among thousands. Through experiences such as dreaming, being intoxicated, or taking psychedelics, our state of consciousness can radically shift, causing the entirety of scientific understanding to 'fly out the window.' Science's Bias Towards Demystification: Leo criticizes the methodological bias in science that aims to demystify reality, cautioning against the notion that mystery is a problem to be solved. He suggests that the fundamental nature of reality may be intrinsically mystical and that the relentless drive to demystify could be a result of cultural brainwashing rather than empirical necessity. Mistakes in Science vs. Religion: Leo points out the double standard in how society forgives scientific errors while harshly judging religious mistakes. He argues that while scientific errors are often dismissed as part of the scientific process, religious missteps are never excused, even though religion evolves or improves its perspectives. Evolution and Openness of Religion: Leo discusses the evolution of religious institutions like the Catholic Church, showing that they, too, can evolve over time to integrate progressive values and scientific facts. He underlines the unfairness in how critics permanently attribute old errors to religious institutions but allow science the flexibility to evolve and correct itself. Science's Historical Mistakes: Leo brings to light forgotten historical errors made by scientists, such as the initial disbelief in heavier-than-air flight or the dangers of high speed. He asserts that science is just as fallible as religion, but it is treated as if it's a flawless repository of knowledge. Contradictions Within Science: Leo delivers an extensive list of contradictions inherent in the scientific process. These range from the scientific claim that all perceptions are generated by the brain to the inability of science to prove foundational concepts like the existence of an objective external world, self, and mind. Dismissal of Unorthodox Scientific Claims: He criticizes science for dismissing unorthodox ideas that don't come from established sources, emphasizing that this is essentially an appeal to authority—which is ironically, what science accuses religion of doing. Double Standards of Science and Open-Mindedness: Leo notes the hypocrisy in science’s self-representation as open-minded when it often rejects methods and worldviews that fall outside its established norms, branding them pseudoscience. Science's Claim to Practicality versus Objectivity: Leo questions science's simultaneous claims to practicality and as the pinnacle of cultural truth. While science is often pragmatic, it also claims to hold objective truth, except when other worldviews provide practical solutions—these, however, are not afforded the same status of truth. Emphasizing the Importance of Evolving Science: Leo suggests that science will evolve to include understandings currently deemed mystical or supernatural, revolutionizing our approach to the natural world. This echoes the advancement of science in history, leading to the acceptance of phenomena once considered paranormal. The "Science and Responsibility" Conundrum: Leo points out the double standard in attributing the consequences of scientific advancements. He notes that harmful outcomes, such as nuclear bombings or opioid overdose deaths, are often attributed to politics or business rather than science, whereas religion is directly blamed for its negative impacts. This, he argues, demonstrates a significant hypocrisy in how science is critiqued compared to religion. The Intelligence Fallacy in Science: Leo criticizes the assumption within science that the universe cannot possess intelligence, contrasting it with the recognized intelligence of humans, who are a part of the universe. He explains this as a flawed separation between humans and the universe, emphasizing that human intelligence is essentially a manifestation of universal intelligence. The Limitations of Logic in Science: Leo argues that science relies heavily on logic, which in turn depends on the validity of its premises. However, logic cannot prove the truth of its foundational premises, making it insufficient to ground scientific inquiry entirely, revealing a fundamental limitation in the scientific method from a logical standpoint. Science and the John Stuart Mill Paradox: Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill, Leo highlights the ironic situation where both religion and science have been destructive forces historically, despite their contributions to hope and progress. He critically addresses the hypocrisy and double standards displayed by some atheists and rationalists when evaluating the historical impact of science versus religion. Image 4 Image 5 The Unacknowledged Harms of Science: Leo discusses the unintentional yet significant harms caused by scientific progress, such as drug abuse and weaponry. He argues that the scientific community often distances itself from the negative applications of its discoveries, thus refusing to accept responsibility for the repercussions of scientific advancements, which impacts society and various aspects of reality. Science's Role in Social and Cultural Dynamics: Leo emphasizes that science cannot exist in isolation from society and culture, including government funding, universities, and the overall wellness of society. He stresses that scientific development is intertwined with the healthiness of communities and the dissemination of information, such as on social media. Leo's Definitions of Science: He offers a multifaceted view of science by presenting multiple definitions, including science as an imaginary scheme, a projection of the mind, a human invention, a shared cultural belief, an epistemology and metaphysics, trial and error, symbolic representation, an ideology, a state of consciousness, survival mechanism, linguistic structure, sense-making activity, and a hallucination within the Universal Mind. The Importance of Internalizing the Definition of Science: He concludes by urging the audience to spend years contemplating what science is, understanding its vast implications, perspectives, and connections to reality—an exploration that he asserts should expand beyond academic and laboratory confines to personal, everyday experiential learning. Application of Science in Daily Life: Leo Gura illustrates science as a natural part of everyday life, like searching for lost car keys. This process is a fundamental practice of science — observing, hypothesizing, and experimenting. He emphasizes the importance of keeping an open mind to all possibilities, which is essential in scientific endeavors and life in general. Inner Science: Gura encourages the study of one's own emotions and subjective experiences, viewing this introspection as a legitimate form of science. He advocates for recognizing the scientific merit in understanding personal phenomena such as anger, joy, or sadness and the effects these have on one's life. Personal Responsibility for Science: Leo underscores the importance of taking personal responsibility for exploring and understanding one's own life scientifically. He wants people to actively engage in this "inner science" rather than passively accepting knowledge from external authorities like scientists or gurus. Practical Critiques of Modern Science: Gura offers a list of areas where he believes modern science is fundamentally mistaken, including misconceptions about materialism, realism, objectivity, Western medicine, perception, consciousness, psychedelics, rationality, the existence of paranormal phenomena, mystical experiences, birth and death, and the nature of immortality. Misunderstandings in Core Scientific Concepts: He argues that science's current understanding of God, infinity, nothingness, artificial intelligence, the Planck length, evolutionary mechanics, and the Big Bang is flawed. He claims these views will evolve radically in the future as science advances. Epistemic Questions for Contemplation: Leo Gura presents a list of fundamental epistemological questions about the nature, function, and underlying assumptions of science, inviting listeners to explore these for a deeper understanding of scientific practice. Metaphor of Knowledge and Limitations of Science: Gura uses the metaphor of a carpet in a house to depict the vastness of the universe's knowledge compared to the minuscule portion humans comprehend through science. He envisions a future where science includes the mystical and paranormal and recognizes the reality as infinite love. Philosophical Inquiry into the Nature of Science: Leo Gura raises profound inquiries into the nature of science, challenging the very foundations and assumptions upon which scientific knowledge is built. He advocates for an open-minded approach that encompasses a broad spectrum of human experience and consciousness. Future Outlook of Science: Anticipating revolutionary changes in the scientific field, Gura predicts that future generations will have an expanded understanding of phenomena currently dismissed as pseudoscience, leading to a more comprehensive and profound grasp of reality. Call for a Deeper Exploration of Reality: Leo challenges listeners to dive deeper into the exploration of reality, emphasizing the profound impact this can have on the richness and depth of their lives. He urges people to take a more serious and inquisitive approach to life. Role of Actualized.org: Gura clarifies the purpose of Actualized.org as a platform that encourages independent exploration and growth, rather than providing conclusive enlightenment. It serves as a guide for individuals on their journey of personal and philosophical discovery. Infinity of Universal Consciousness: Leo Gura draws a comparison between the universe as an infinite carpet and human scientific knowledge as a single fiber within it. He asserts that even a million years of scientific advancement will only reveal a minuscule part of the vastness of the universe, emphasizing the limitations of science in comprehending infinity. Nature of Infinity: Leo illustrates how any finite method, including science, will always fall infinitely short of truly understanding the infinite nature of reality. This intrinsic characteristic of infinity positions science's capabilities as profoundly limited when it comes to grasping the full extent of the universe. Fisherman Analogy: A fisherman hooking the bottom of the ocean serves as an analogy for scientists who believe they understand a portion of the universe but unknowingly are dealing with the totality of it. Gura points out scientists often falsely believe they've captured a significant truth when, in reality, they've barely scratched the surface of understanding. Revolutionary Changes in Science: Predicting significant evolutionary changes in scientific understanding, Gura suggests that future generations will view current scientific practices as archaic. Pseudoscience and spiritual concepts such as non-duality, God, and immortality will be integrated into mainstream scientific thought. Role of Individual Responsibility: Emphasizing the power of individual initiative, Gura argues that the evolution of science depends on each person's willingness to entertain unconventional ideas and methodologies. He attributes societal collective consciousness and openness to shaping the future of scientific progress. Integration of Science and Spirituality: Foreseeing a future where science and spirituality merge, Gura envisions the acknowledgment and realization of the infinite nature of reality and love within the domain of science, moving beyond the confines of materialism and realism. Call for Self-Exploration: Leo Gura advocates for personal exploration and inner science, stressing the profound importance of self-study and deeply understanding one's own existence as the ultimate science. Conclusion and Quotes: Concluding his points, Gura shares quotes that sum up the notion of science as both a limited and profound human pursuit that intertwines closely with our intuitions and fundamental beliefs about the nature of reality. Image 6 Image 7 Image 8 Seriousness in Exploring Reality: Leo calls for a more earnest and deep approach to life and reality, urging listeners to transform their lives into a pursuit of extraordinary discovery and understanding, challenging the status quo and venturing into the mysteries of existence. Bombarda
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Ive gotten into Sri ramana maharshi and h9s teachings lately. nto I can quote the greates yogis and could explain it well with pretty words to others if I wanted to. Ive read the books. Blah blah it all does me no good really. How can reality not be a subject-object reality? I am thinking to much I know but I havent been able to think about anything else for a few days. What is my sense of self than? My sense of self doesnt fit in with this at all. And this sense of seld is undeniable even when deep in meditation... On the bright side, I am motivated to start a kriya yoga practice now which i have been procrastinating about for months.
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I don't know. In any case, I'd refrain from judging one's consciousness based on a belief system (nonduality, et al.) One might directly know his nature, or not. Assessing the presence and "degree" of such consciousness in others is made yet the more difficult without one's self-realization. Intuition might serve here if you're able to pay close attention; ultimately, though, who knows? Unless you've been in the presence of an enlightened individual and can perhaps sense something "unusual", all we've got to evaluate are their communications. In the end, we might be limited to our own assessment of their authenticity.
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Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick. Aren't enlightenment and awakening the same thing? Either way, winding up chasing experiences and giving up on lasting change sounds like a bad advert for the psychedelic path. And if you're not into non-duality, I guess you're into duality, which means ego. Deciding you don't believe in enlightenment or nonduality before you've achieved enlightenment screams ego-backlash to me. Sounds like he's got a little lost. But maybe I've misunderstood...
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Holism & Holistic Thinking - Part 2 https://youtu.be/g4A7SBx-CEg "Aberrations of the human mind are to a large extent due to the obsessional pursuit of some part-truth, treated as if it were the whole truth." - Arthur Koestler Holistic thinking definition and importance: Holistic thinking encompasses understanding the interconnectedness of various life domains. Adopting this perspective can lead to solutions for problems perceived as insurmountable through a reductionist lens. Examples of lack of holistic thinking: Environmental degradation, such as pollution and overfishing, and the introduction of invasive species like weasels in Hawaii, demonstrate the consequences of not considering ecological interconnections. Unholistic approach in Western medicine: Leo's personal health experiences highlight the compartmentalization and lack of holistic thinking in Western medicine, leading to unsatisfactory patient care and outcomes. Influence of nutrition on theoretical physics: Leo posits that nutrition significantly impacts a scientist's cognitive abilities to develop and understand theories, pointing out the non-holistic tendency to detach personal nutrition from professional scientific work. Collective and personal problems from non-holistic perspectives: Society and individuals face issues like environmental harm and personal health challenges due to a lack of holistic approaches in thinking and decision-making. Personal fasting experience impacting perspective: During a 14-day water fast, Leo notices changes in his cognitive functions and uses this personal experience to illustrate the direct link between personal health and professional capacities like scientific theorizing. Fragmentation in the Medical System: Leo Gura discusses the lack of a holistic approach in the medical field, recounting experiences with specialists who are reluctant to treat symptoms not aligning with their specific criteria. This fragmentation can lead to misdiagnoses or untreated conditions, as doctors often fail to consider the interconnectedness of bodily systems. Holistic Healthcare: The need for a holistic perspective in healthcare is emphasized through the example of interconnected health issues involving teeth, the immune system, and the gut. Many health problems, such as autoimmune disorders, could potentially be resolved if the medical community and treatments adopted a holistic approach. Nutrition and Health: Leo argues that dietary changes, such as adopting a plant-based whole foods diet and incorporating fasting, can cure health conditions like heart disease more effectively than medication. He criticizes the medical industry’s unholistic approach, which often neglects nutrition and exercise in treatment plans. Nutritional Fads and Holism: The proliferation of fad diets reflects a lack of holistic thinking in nutrition. These diets often focus on specific goals like weight loss or ethical considerations without assessing overall long-term health impacts or broader issues like animal welfare and environmental sustainability. Diet Complexity and Ethics: Veganism, while ethically motivated, does not guarantee personal health if the diet consists of poor quality foods. Leo stresses the importance of considering health, societal implications, and environmental impacts when choosing a diet, advocating for a balanced and informed approach to nutrition. Simplistic Nutritional Labels: Leo criticizes the oversimplification of nutrition to just a few components on food labels. These labels fail to account for diverse nutrients, their varying impacts based on individual differences such as age and gender, and the ethical sourcing of ingredients. Business Practices Lacking Holism: Leo Gura critiques modern business practices for their focus on profit at the expense of valuable domains such as health, environment, social well-being, and spirituality. He suggests that businesses should genuinely care for these aspects rather than exploit them for monetary gain. Soulless nature of modern business: Businesses often disregard the importance of art, spirituality, and societal well-being, focusing only on profit. This approach strips business of its spirit and is detrimental to society. Actualized.org's business model: Leo prioritizes impact on elevating human consciousness over profit and marketing strategies. Despite potential financial gains, he focuses on content quality, which he views as beneficial in the long term. Corporate culture criticism: Disgusted by the lack of appreciation for art, spirituality, and health within corporate culture, Leo left the game development industry to pursue an independent approach that aligns with his values. Game development industry issues: Unhealthy practices like long working hours, poor nutrition, and a culture that resists change are prevalent in the game development industry, leading to potential health issues for employees. Toxic marketing practices: Modern marketing is criticized for negatively influencing societal well-being and human psychology by shaping desires, fears, and worldviews through constant exposure to advertisements. Geopolitical consequences of unholistic thinking: The Iraq War is portrayed as an example of the failure to holistically consider the complexities of a region, highlighting the dangers of unholistic decisions in geopolitics. Scientific ignorance of metaphysics and epistemology: Science is often conducted with disregard for metaphysical and epistemological foundations, limiting potential progress and deepening understanding, as demonstrated by issues like the unresolved mind-body problem. Separation of science and spirituality: The unholistic viewpoint held by some scientists keeps consciousness and spirituality dismissed as unscientific, preventing a unified view of matter and consciousness. Lack of generalization in scientific discoveries: Scientists often fail to apply insights from areas like quantum mechanics to broader domains, which limits the holistic application of such discoveries. Reductionism in mathematics: The field of mathematics, as seen in responses to Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, demonstrates a reluctance to apply its implications beyond narrowly defined systems, showing a lack of holistic thinking. Resistance to holistic generalizations: In fields like logic, mathematics, and science, there is a tendency to stay confined within established domains, ignoring the possibility of broader, interconnected implications and deeper understandings. Shortcomings of current psychology: Psychology, as it stands, lacks a holistic perspective by disregarding spirituality, nonduality, philosophy, metaphysics, and existential considerations. Consequently, therapists often struggle with effectively treating patients because many psychological issues stem from deeper spiritual and metaphysical problems. Limitations of behavioral psychology: Skinner’s behaviorism, which dismisses internal experiences such as moods and consciousness, is cited as an example of reductionistic thinking in psychology. Despite recognition of its limitations in modern times, similar reductionist approaches persist subtly across academia and science. Historical failures of reductionism: Leo outlines various historical attempts at reductionism within logic and mathematics like Logicism, spearheaded by thinkers like Bertrand Russell and Hilbert’s project, which ultimately failed. Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems and Russell's paradox challenged these reductionist frameworks, emphasizing the complexity and unity of reality. Importance of holistic thought in science: Despite an understanding of reductionism's failings, a holistic viewpoint is often missing in modern scientific practice. Examples include the dismissal of psychedelics for scientific study due to a lack of holistic engagement. Technological ethics: In technology, ethics are often overlooked, and many technologies are developed for purely business purposes without considering their broader impacts. This lack of holistic thinking prioritizes profit over ethical considerations. Einstein's Theory of Relativity: Einstein’s progression from special to general relativity is discussed as a move towards a more holistic understanding. However, Einstein could have expanded his thought further by applying the concept of relativity to all aspects of the universe, exemplifying a truly holistic perspective. Educational system's lack of holism: The current educational system is critiqued for neglecting important subjects like personal development, emotional intelligence, love, epistemology, metaphysics, spirituality, nutrition, and health, which stunts social development. Leo advocates for an education system that aligns with what he teaches at Actualized.org. Building a new education paradigm: Leo sees Actualized.org as the foundation of a new education system focused on the profound lessons vital for life. His teachings are a product of holistic research and thought, aiming to fill the gaps left by current educational structures due to systemic issues and red tape. Scope of Actualized.org's Impact: Despite not reaching as many people as the education system, Actualized.org aims to provide advanced, meaningful content to those deeply interested. Over time, current education may incorporate elements from this and similar advanced teachings. Holism in Education and Scientific Studies: Scientific studies lack holism and present narrow results that are context-dependent and potentially misleading. This unholistic approach is particularly evident in studies on nutrition, like the effects of coffee or red wine on health. Individual Problems Stemming from Lack of Holism: Hedonistic lifestyles, overindulgence in junk food, not exercising, staying in unrewarding jobs due to financial gains, and maintaining an unbalanced work-life, all exhibit a lack of holistic thinking, and ignoring long-term well-being. Misaligned Work and Lifestyle Choices: People often stay in high-paying, unsatisfactory jobs, or overwork at the expense of health and relationships. Holistic thinking would prioritize alignment with life values and purpose. Avoiding Medical Check-ups and Project Goal Misalignment: Avoiding necessary medical visits and losing sight of original project goals can have detrimental effects, both avoidable through a more holistic approach. Being Economically Minded in Employment and Relationships: Hiring cheap labor and lying in relationships are unholistic practices that can lead to workplace issues and relationship breakdowns, emphasizing the need for quality and honesty. Unholistic Approach in Relational Dynamics and Pickup Culture: In relationships, focusing solely on one's needs or the pickup community's male-centric views misses the essence of meaningful connections, showcasing a blatant lack of holism. Staying Together for Children and Unethical Business Practices: Couples staying together for their children's sake without considering the toxicity of their relationship and businesses ripping off customers are examples of short-term views lacking in long-term holistic understanding. Theory versus Practice: Dismissing theoretical knowledge in favor of practicality limits progress and the potential to refine or completely rethink practices, highlighting the need for a balance between both. Spiritual Negligence: Ignoring the importance of spiritual work and existential contemplation can lead to a life filled with suffering, especially in the face of aging and death, representing the ultimate lack of holistic understanding. Spiritual work and its importance: Failing to engage in spiritual work throughout life can lead to profound suffering, particularly as one ages and faces death, which may result from a lack of realization about what death truly signifies, as well as an attachment to the ego. Duality between individual and collective levels: Holistic thinking should acknowledge that individual and collective levels are intimately intertwined and balanced with each other, like strands of DNA. Separating these levels leads to societal and personal fragmentation, disease, and evil. Problems caused by unholistic thinking: A large number of world issues and personal problems stem from an unholistic perspective. Paradigms that lack holism, such as materialistic self-help teachings, conventional medicine, and various philosophical and spiritual schools, can lead to suffering and brokenness. Consequences of paradigm lock: A lack of holism results in what Leo calls "paradigm lock," where one becomes trapped within a particular worldview or paradigm, limiting their broader understanding and preventing the recognition of interconnected bubbles of reality. Breaking out of paradigms through holism: Holistic thinking enables one to rise above individual paradigms and integrate different perspectives to form a higher understanding, contributing to a process Leo refers to as "mind jailbreaking." Corruption as a manifestation of lack of holistic intelligence: Corruption, beyond government and corporate levels, is a deep-seated problem resulting from a lack of holistic intelligence and is pervasive throughout society. The catch-22 of holism: Appreciating the value of holistic thinking is essential to practice it, but seeing the value itself requires a holistic perspective, creating a challenging circular situation. Choosing the holistic path for fulfillment: Although the unholistic path of wealth and luxury appears attractive, it ultimately leads to dissatisfaction and harm, whereas the holistic path provides deeper meaning and fulfillment, despite being more challenging. Practical application of holistic thinking: Holistic thinking includes considerations such as the impact of one's actions on the whole and recognizing the ramifications of our roles within larger systems. Components of holistic thinking: True holistic thinking involves taking all levels of existence into account, taking responsibility for one's effects on the whole, being aware of systemic emergent properties, internalizing external factors, and being conscious of the interconnectedness of actions and their broader impacts. Conclusion on the benefits of holistic thinking: Holistic thinking, while demanding, aligns with finding deeper meaning and winning at life. It calls for understanding the interconnectedness of all aspects, including personal, societal, and ecological, and leads to making informed, responsible choices. Integration Through Technology: Leo indicates that the rise of global internet connectivity is analogous to creating a collective hive mind, expanding our collective consciousness as new forms of awareness emerge from our interconnectedness. Emergent Consciousness: He suggests that, similar to individual consciousness arising from the interplay of cells and organs, a new kind of collective consciousness may be evolving within humanity due to technological integration, which he finds fascinating. Backfiring Mechanisms in Holistic Thinking: Leo explains that holistic thinking must account for the non-linear and counter-intuitive nature of complex systems, which often produce unexpected outcomes or even the opposite of what was intended. Part-to-Whole Relationship in Holistic Thinking: He asserts that holistic thought values both individual parts and the whole, considering their integration as well as acknowledging dualities' inevitable reunion. Long-Term Horizon in Holistic Thinking: Leo stresses the importance of long-term thinking, emphasizing consideration for future generations and broader, long-term effects of actions, like those related to climate change. Context, Relevance, and Balance in Holistic Thinking: He underscores the necessity of evaluating the relevance, priority, and context of issues and achieving balance when making decisions, putting the greater good first and foremost. Caring About the Whole: Leo challenges viewers to genuinely care about the whole, not merely think holistically, questioning whether they can transcend their own survival needs for the greater good. Solving Personal Survival Challenges: He advises that to adopt a holistic outlook, one must establish sustainable solutions for survival needs, thus freeing mental and emotional resources to consider larger societal concerns. Degrees of Holism in Politics and Science: Leo describes different levels of holistic understanding within politics and science, with the highest level recognizing these fields as expressions of universal self-awareness and infinite love. Limits of Cognitive Development: He acknowledges that most people are unable to grasp the highest level of holistic understanding due to limited cognitive development and a focus on immediate survival and self-interest. Elevation of Consciousness in Politics: Politics, viewed from the highest holistic perspective, relates to the elevation of global consciousness and collective love, moving from divisive tribalism towards unity. Science as an Exploration of Consciousness: At the highest level, Leo posits that science seeks to understand the universe as a manifestation of consciousness and love, identical to the process of spirituality. Different Levels of Holism in Various Fields: Leo emphasizes that every activity, from filmmaking to making love, can be approached from different levels of holism, highlighting a spectrum of depth in any creative or personal endeavor. Development of Holistic Thinking: Leo provides methods to enhance holistic thinking, which include asking higher quality questions, using psychedelics for awakening and expanding consciousness, developing intuition, studying diverse perspectives, and eliminating judging and criticism. Importance of Quality Questions and Continuous Learning: He underscores the power of insightful questions and continuous education in advancing holistic thinking, directing viewers to his episodes that delve into these topics. Holism and God Consciousness: Leo describes how awe and wonder, such as that experienced when observing nature or the stars, stem from a deep connection to the divine, implying that an appreciation for nature is an expression of self-love because we are, in essence, the universe experiencing itself. Powerful Questions to Encourage Holism: He presents questions designed to foster a holistic mindset by encouraging individuals to consider connections, the bigger picture, the ultimate purpose of actions, and how individual behaviors impact the whole, prompting self-reflection and a broader understanding of one’s role in larger systems. Incorporating Reductionism within Holism: Leo warns against viewing holism and reductionism as dichotomies, suggesting that a truly holistic perspective should integrate reductionistic aspects too, recognizing their place within the whole. Ethical Misuse of Holistic Knowledge: Leo warns that utilizing holism to manipulate systems for personal gain is not genuine holism but rather exploitation, which he aligns with unethical behavior and corruption. Final Reflections on Holistic Living: Leo closes by asserting the importance of serving the greatest whole and aligning one’s life with holistic principles, which he believes is the key to successfully navigating life. The challenge of absolute holism: Embracing true holism is extremely challenging as it requires accepting all aspects of reality, including evil and unholistic elements, threatening the ego and demanding significant surrender. Holism as a state of consciousness: Ultimate holism isn't about thinking but is rooted in pure, infinite consciousness. Thinking has its limits, and the highest form of holism involves transcending rational thought to change one's state of consciousness. Psychedelics and holistic consciousness: Psychedelics can be a powerful tool for radically altering one's state of consciousness and experiencing holism. While they're not the only way, the feeling of interconnectedness they can induce demonstrates their potential for fostering holistic thinking. The fragmented mind and healing the world: A fragmented mind leads to a fragmented world, and world healing is dependent on the unification of our minds. Taking responsibility for healing the world is a choice that depends on one's willingness to act holistically. Holistic and unholistic solutions: Life presents problems with both holistic and unholistic solutions, and it's critical not to be seduced by quick, unholistic fixes. True solutions often require a more complex, long-term, and integrated approach. Unholistic paradigms and problem-solving: Problems deemed impossible to solve are often due to an unholistic approach. By questioning how to be more holistic in one's thinking, new avenues for problem-solving open up, offering hope and optimism. Holism and personal development: The highest good is equivalent to the highest holism. Seeking the highest level of holistic thinking aligns with achieving the highest good in life, leading to victory in the 'game of life'. Self-education and holistic thinking: To deepen one's holistic understanding, engaging with various educational resources, like reading books from the suggested reading list, is vital. This self-education supports the journey towards holistic thinking and self-actualization. Holistic thinking in summary: Holistic thinking extends beyond the intellect to a deep embrace of all facets of existence, demanding ongoing self-awareness and the release of biases against what one perceives as negative. Continuous learning elevates one's perspective, leading to more effective problem-solving and improved quality of life. Engorgio
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Water by the River replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agree on all points. Even the soul-game is an appearance, ultimately not real. But equally real or unreal as ones car, for example. And endures death, which the car can not claim when the scrap press comes along... "How wonderful it is that in the infinite ocean of myself the waves of living beings arise, collide, play, and disappear, in accordance with their nature" 2.25 Ashtavakra Gita And for (not true/full) Nonduality: Also agree. Nonduality is most often a merging/unity experience, where the separate-self/individuality can still be well and alive, and hijack the nondual unity-state. "I realized nonduality/Reality", "I am pure awareness", "I am God", "I am whatever", "I realized *whatever*". And what triggers most likely a unity/nondual-state with the separate-self still well and alive, later interpreting the experience in a way that doesn't kill/transcend but boost and extend the lense/filter/illusion of the separate-self to God-like proportions? What could that be? Or (true) Nonduality, to truly realize that one has ever been, always is, and never can not be Infinite Reality itself. That Reality is impersonal, groundless, empty and infinite, absolute potential, no separate-identity left, no inner-blabla-talk of any(!) kind still believed and not immediately cut off, seen as illusion arisings within ones True Infinite Self. The illusion is seen through.... Pure groundless Being is realized, containing this and any possible world/apperance. That (and only that) can end the suffering/(aka resistance to what is) which is the essence of what any separate-self is at its core. "There is no one subject to samsara, no sense of individuality, no goal or means to the goal in the eyes of the wise man who is always free from imagination and unchanging like space" 18.66 Ashtavakra Gita "When the sage has realised that he himself is in all beings, and all beings are in him, it is astonishing that the sense of individuality should be able to continue" 3.5 Ashtavakra Gita And even something with imagination and God and realization is in the Ashtavakra Gita: "Recognising [Realizing] that [all] things are just constructions of imagination, that great soul lives as God here and now". 18.28 The only thing I didn't find in the Ashtavakra Gita is Alien & company. But since its quite hard to contradict that Alien & company are also imagined and merely appearing illusions arising in the Reality of ones own True Being... But hey, what does Water by the River know? NOTHING. But that quite profoundly. Selling Water by the River -
I just truly discovered this notion of "wholeness", "unity" or "oneness" from non-duality. This idea is very frightening for me.. because it collapses my experience of reality. Awareness is all that there is.. every other thing is a mind-created concept So, Non-Duality is awareness itself. There is no separation of ego/thought or object/subject. Precisely because experience is all it Is.. and experience IS consciousness. There is no experiential state if there is no awareness, therefore "being" is all there truly is. This is without having this "I" that is assumed to be doing the experiencing. For some this mystical ego-transcendence is beautiful, because of the divine nature of it(How this pure state of awareness feels). And also because it is the ultimate truth. It is the true nature of nature. Duality is the greatest enemy to non-duality (Obviously). But get this, in order to reach non-duality you MUST purge the duality of the mind. So, having a firmly dualistic mind will not comprehend this in any way. Because non-duality is experienced, it is not known by a rational explanation. For the explanation of it is dualistic in nature, because language is dualistic and always implies separation. People engage in meditation to reach this perceptual change of awareness. My biggest fear is knowing that everything I have experienced up until now has been an illusion. A product of the mind's intrinsic tendency to dualism. Everything seems false, nothing is real. Truth is just one. Up until now my philosophical "truths"(Or any thought of that matter) have been dualistic. So, I reach some sort of existential crisis or nihilistic crisis in nature. Not only that, but all of my dreams, hopes, my personal realizations are far from truth. Any meaning becomes meaningless. It is not worth living for something at it is just a concept, a construct of the mind that separates me and true reality. In a crude way, it is all fake. I can't even think without separation so it troubles me more. I think the most terrifying thing is looking out into space and realising that that for the most part.. is reality - this yawning near-void filled with things that would kill you. Here we are.. little fragile Flatlanders hugging the increasingly disordered surface of one planet.. with the yawning hungry cosmos poised to take us all back.
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I'm confused by the difference between having no identity and realizing that you're God. Aren't those the same thing? Realizing that you're God is almost like a non-identity since you're everything and nothing, right? Identity is dualistic if you're claiming to identify as one thing as opposed to other things... but realizing that you're God means that you identify as all things and also nothing. Realizing that you're God is the only non-dual identity. If nonduality is all about how there's only ONE thing... isn't God a good word for that one thing? Like what else would this magical shit be? Kinda confused about the whole deal with the word "experience" too. I understand that people don't use that word since "experience" implies a process over a period of time, which doesn't actually exist since time is an imaginary concept in the present. Realization might be better, but then again, that makes it sound like an ego had some kind of insight. Same with awakening and enlightenment. Who awakened or was enlightened? I feel like any word that someone uses could be torn to shreds and we're just using semantics as a way to spiritually dunk on each other without actually clarifying anything lmao
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what is non duality? and what is it's use in Sprituality? is non dual means good and evil are one? what non dual teaching conclude? and how non dual is non dual? we know we are one with the soul but we are different in sprit too. so which positions we take? dual or non dual?
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I finished an enlightenment workshop today.. it’s truly astounding how in the 3.5 hours, the terms nonduality and duality were mentioned precisely 0 times. Enlightenment was also never mentioned, only in the description. I demand a refund!