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Just to let you know beforehand - this post is written by hardcore full-time seeker - 14 hours of consciousness work daily for past 5 years with 150 psychedelic GOD awakenings and Infinite Love awakenings on 5-MeO-DMT and others. I do not expect any advice from you for my situation - because I came to conclusion that no advice of the "internet gurus" has ever worked for me. I wrote this post just so you could show some empathy to people like me - seekers who are STUCK in the middle, in the dead zone - between the Matrix and Liberation. And being stuck in the middle of those two for years/lifetime creates MORE suffering than average human life spent as an average unconscious Joe. My life is actually worse than Leo's life according to his health video in his Insights Blog (https://www.actualized.org/insights/my-health-situation) . I am in pain, experiencing many psychological and physical illnesses since my childhood. Everybody should realize that Life is massive Suffering even after many awakenings. Like many of you, I came into the spirituality because I wanted to ease my suffering AND have less thoughts OR at least stop being identified with them AND be "immune" to pain AND to know my true nature AND to experience experience Unconditional Love in everyday life - not just in psychedelic trips. 5 years of hardcore spirituality later, my suffering has actually increased AND number of thoughts has actually increased AND identification with thoughts is pretty much the same AND my sensitivity to pain has dramatically increased AND I have had only 2 sober spontaneous experiences of Unconditional Love which lasted only 1 minute. After many of my temporary awakenings I came to conclusion that I am the GOD IDIOT, here's why: My life in a nutshell: 0.006 % Gods Divine Love 1 % pleasure from orgasm, eating 99 % suffering in boredom/meaninglessness, suffering from thoughts, personality disorders, anxiety, depression, inner-conflicts, needs, desires, pain, work, insomnia, extreme noise sensitivity etc. I am a God Idiot because after 5 years of full time consciousness work I was not able to cure any of my disorders. I am powerless god. Hopeless God. God is LIMITED idiot because he can't switch off useless "pain signals" in the body. OF COURSE pain signals were useful in caveman days, but nowadays they have outlived their usefulness YET there is NO WAY to turn them off (I am a highly sensitive person - I feel pain 5x stronger than average human) The GOD is RENDERING this creation and that is pretty much the ONLY thing that's doing great! God is UNLIMITED when it comes to rendering stuff. Rendering feelings etc... Rendering this colorful 4D scene. BRAVO! He is doing that perfectly. His mechanism of "no-mechanism" is PERFECT. But the scene is full of suffering. The Mind is actually Alpha version pre-realesed too early and most of human perspectives are in suffering mode thanks to shitloads of inner conflicts created by inner beings/thoughts or "external" stimuli. God is the biggest idiot out there - Since in this day and age more than 98% of human perspectives are led by ego-identity and for most of them THERE IS NO WAY OUT (remember - I have tried to get out for 5 years full-time) There's NO WAY OUT because there are infinite lives... So suicide is not an option - my idiotic creation is made the way that I will be always reborn into suffering again and again. Life IS. And this statement implies suffering in it. NO WAY OUT. Life is and always will be. Whatever IS - is prone to suffer. I am a God idiot - because THERE IS NO "SAFETY VALVE" Impermanence is actually not "SAFETY VALVE", it's not a positive feature like Leo said in impermanence video. Impermanence IS an "error", because God is idiot who wasn't capable of creating creation with 100 percent SOBER divine love without colors, feelings, thoughts and without the need for using psychedelics to remember himself in trip just for few seconds. OF COURSE I used to be a 5-MeO-HERO who experienced Gods Divine Love 150 times on psychedelic only to forget it few minutes later. Why? Because this Creation is created by Me God Idiot, who is NOT IN CONTROL of making use of those divine insights into everyday reality ... Remember there is no control and no one in control. And no one in control of liberating from suffering into "awakened state" !!! It's based on pure luck... It is a lottery. The Grand God Idiot's Lottery! That's why there are actually life-long seekers who seeks liberation from suffering but how many actually get liberated? How many of the seekers get enlightened? 3 percent? So this hell creation is punishment for myself. Why? Just cause! I do not know... God is idiot because there is NO WARRANTY that evolution will make humans more happy. What if people 5000 years ago were a lot more happy than today's industrial society? There is no warranty for better future. YES there are channeled books from higher beings in higher dimensions who say that there is some thing called ascension and in 1000000 years you will ascend higher or whatever, but what if that is just a dogma? You can't be sure of that. I am LIMITED crippled God because I have NO CONTROL over the creation - I can't "dream" stuff or positive emotions into existence and maintain them 24/7 and I am very VERY limited in manipulating reality - maybe even totally powerless - because I have no control over my thoughts, hormones, disorders, life experiences, brain chemicals etc... LoA people are proof of that. Under any LoA video on youtube there are comments like: I can manifest ANYTHING!!! - yeah right, those "omnipotent" fools who say they can manifest anything only to find out they have a tumor year later and die. I have personally known 2 of those people. To intelligent person it's obvious that they can only manifest themselves stuff like cars and money, which is normal part of life and working hard. No need to call that woo-woo Law Of Attraction. All of them say you are God and can manifest anything - so why their life is suffering? Why are they still working at McDonald's? Why they have incurable illnesses? Why those fools don't make themselves live up to 200 years of age full of wealth and health? Or feed all starving children in Africa. Or heal ALL corona patients in one day ... They're a joke. And anyone who believes that "You are Creator of your own reality" is a joke. You have very limited - I would say Zero control over the reality. Just contemplate "What is a decision" and observe your experience carefully. I am a GOD IDIOT because I have Zero control over my thoughts. I have ZERO control of: WHAT my next thought gonna be WHEN my next thought gonna be AND I have ZERO control of decision made based on thought content. I am God idiot because my alpha-version buggy Mind (thoughts) is prone to be stuck in loops of negative thinking FULL OF INTERNAL CONFLICTS between inner archetypes. Not just thought loops. I know people stuck in depressive, anxiety, OCD loops for their whole life. No techniques or medications work for them. I am God idiot who is not in control of his "level of vibration" ... God is idiot because his creation is CHAOS. Chaos implies suffering. Some say that reality is not suffering, but my interpretation of reality creates suffering. Oh man believe me I HAVE TRIED... Full-time... God is limited idiot because any psychedelic or other "peak experience" won't last more than few minutes AND there's a tolerance or harmful addiction or basically "The higher you fly, the harder you fall". In conclusion - Experiences of God's divine love actually made my everyday life more miserable - they showed me something I'm incapable to experience on sober daily basis. My 5-MeO Omnipotence experiences are totally useless AND those experiences gave me a false hopes / false HEALING hopes for my illnesses... Nothing good came out of them... BTW I wanted to teach spirituality... Like Leo, I wanted to wake people up from their illusions... Praising 5-MeO as well. Like Leo I have read almost all spiritual books under the sun. Like Leo - I became "Insight Hunter" ... Only to find out later that insights/peak psychedelic experiences actually made my life worse. Revealing "secrets" of existence is making everyday life "negatively" meaningless. YES - meaninglessness that I experience is not neutral, it's negative. Massive contemplative lifestyle stripped my life of compulsory illusions. Human NEEDS his illusions to live normal life... To be able to relate to other people in the matrix, to be social... To enjoy entertainment in the matrix... You won't be happy watching a movie constantly being reminded it's staged... I realized that stripping illusions off reality is actually fools way to live a life. I, like many, am a depressed spiritual loner full of head knowledge and spiritual ego. That's why most of philosophers were unhappy. And because only 3 % of seekers get liberated - average seeker gets actually stuck "in the middle"... I as a God am incapable of surrendering the ego identity... Believe me, I have tried... Shitloads of times... But of course surrender isn't something you could do willingly. I am still waiting for some paradigm-shattering insight or whatever... Til now no luck... OF COURSE this post is full of limiting beliefs. OF COURSE this could be understood as a victim mentality thinking. But realize - I am doing my best... Full time... Everybody is doing their best. I have tried everything... So please do not spit any pseudo-advises like "practice acceptance" or other BS... Your words have no use in some Gods perspectives like This One that is writing this useless post. You won't help me and you won't cure Leo's thyroid illness. OF COURSE reality is 100% imagination and I have tried to make a massive leap and transform this imagination into positive one by brute-force OR at least manifest "accepted imagination" to see creation as accepted/neutral. Did not work. Many "souls" are in the "massive suffering mode" multiple lives in a row. Just read this book: "Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian L. Weiss" ... It's about a woman who tapped into her past lives and 95 out of 100 her past lives were FULL OF suffering and illnesses... BTW in her past lives she has been a monk in monastery many times. Being monk is useless in therms of "progress" or whatever. So, I hope you finally understand. You can enlighten yourself however you want in this life, in your next life thanks to memory wipe out + upbringing by egoic parents and egoic society you will fall back to illusion again. You will suffer in your next life in spite of your awakenings in this life. I am DELUDED LIMITED CRIPPLED GOD. Totally lost in his creation. NO WAY OUT for 99,999 percent of people including me. Gods creation is Hell Realm - This Colorful Creation is Hell Realm. Thanks for your time. You will experience my life someday. Don't worry "internet gurus" :-D tl;dr: Have compassion for suffering of others. And just 2 more quotes for you:

Remember those walls I built Well, baby, they're tumbling down And they didn't even put up a fight They didn't even make a sound I found a way to let you win But I never really had a doubt Standing in the light of your halo I got my angel now It's like I've been awakened Every rule I had you breaking It's the risk that I'm taking I ain't never gonna shut you out Everywhere I'm looking now I'm surrounded by your embrace Baby, I can see your halo You know you're my saving grace You're everything I need and more It's written all over your face Baby, I can feel your halo Pray it won't fade away I can feel your halo ...

Exactly. Suffering only awakens people when they are ready to be awakened. The apple only falls from the tree when it is ripe enough to lose its attachment.

@clouffy Enlightenment is when you find something that was always there and was never not that way, and so, it can't really be called a "thing". It is not a state. It's like waking up from a dream. When you wake from a dream do you say: "I hope this new awakened state stays with me"..? Also, what if what you experienced during enlightenment wasn't bliss? Would you still know that you had awoken? Could you become enlightened without feeling bliss? Are you feeling bliss right now, but just not conscious of it? Is there somewhere in you right now that is in bliss? Is all of you not in bliss? How much of your being are you representing right now when you say "I am not in bliss.. I wish I could feel bliss"? Is the you that you call you qualified to say that you are not already in bliss? Would you be interested to contemplate these questions? Even if they didn't lead to bliss? I just thought of another indicator.. Enlightenment is when you have no doubt that God exists. When God "is" before you had an opinion about it. Peace dude, Lenny

in my experience it happens both with a bang and the growth continues on. There is the initial ego explosion that feels like a lightning bolt struck your mind. And then after that there is not really a 'you' anymore to control your life and consciousness flows through you effortlessly although some egoic structures are still intact. Overtime though, these egoic structures get cleansed. This is why you may hear enlightened masters say something like. "I'm always meditating no matter what I am doing." Because from the awakened person's pov, the universe is meditating them 24/7. It's no longer an activity you choose but a way you are. From the person with an intact ego's pov however, they need to meditate as a habit consciously and frequently to get results.

“When ‘you’ are awakened“ is an oxymoron. To be enlightened is to be dead to any will whatsoever; to see no important substantive difference between the end of the world and dropping an ice cream cone on the ground — there’s just what is. Before the me apparently collapses, it’s recognized it was never there. It didn’t happen.

@The Lucid Dreamer Sounds like your just parroting Leo, as I said - you live as a "you". Despite "reality" being no different from a dream, whilst "you" are in such a dream - you behave as a "you". Even when you are awakened, "you" are still in the "dream/reality" therefore, you have survival needs. Out of that need to survive you become a "you". You will only stop being "you" once you are "dead" in the conventional sense.

Maybe you’re looking for a really long answer but I feel it’s as simple as this- When you are truly awakened, know yourself to be pure awareness & have stabilised in absolute peace & happiness, you are happy. From there you simply express this happiness, love, understanding in ALL areas of your life for the joy of doing so! You live from the heart & simply do whatever your heart “desires.” These desires are Gods / The Absolute / Awareness’ desires to express itself, and therefore, your happiness is not dependent on their fulfilment, and put simply life becomes a game, a joyous celebration, a permanent vacation as such. This doesn’t mean you have to teach, you can express this understanding in a multitude of ways & each being has their own unique way, it’s not WHAT you do, but WHY, and when the action is coming from love & happiness, you know it is a desire of awareness. You may become a gardener, an athlete, a coffee shop worker, but whatever you do will come from this place of love & naturally you transmit your understanding from a place far beyond words. So, what’s the point? To enjoy the game! you say you are completely happy & fulfilled, in the nicest way, if that was the case this question wouldn’t arise, as you’d be too busy enjoying & basking in your happiness! In terms of purpose, as you know all purpose is manufactured, as Leo presents in his LP course, maybe take that and that will help you find your unique way of expressing this! Once you truly know yourself, and abide as that, then whatever purpose you conjure up will be from a place of love & understanding, and that alone will make a beautiful & noble pursuit. BUT, you won’t need it to make you happy, as you say you are already happy, so you simply partake in it for the joy of it, for the love, for the desire to help people, in whichever way you do. The game of life is fun! This ended up being quite long haha, anyways, I recommend watching this interview- it will answer a lot of your questions- I would recommend from around the 30 min mark, where Francis says how his relationship with his teacher went from asking sincere truth seeker questions to eventually just a friendship revolved around enjoying life, after he was stabilised In peace & happiness. Thats the message, awakening is the BEGINNING of truly enjoying life!!

Dadi Janki (1 Jan 1916 - 27 march 2020) was the chief administrative head of the Prajapita Brahmakumaris, the world's largest spiritual organization led, administered and taught by women and which have 9000 service centers spanning across 170 countries in the world. The Prajapita Brahmakumaris is also known as the Adi Devi Devatha Sanathana Dharma. Dadi Janki was often considered as the lone female equivalent of the Pope or Ayatollah or Shankaracharya or Dalai Lama in a religious world overwhelmingly dominated by male leaders. Dadi, which means 'grandmother' in Indian language, trained and prepared thousands of female spiritual teachers for decades, who are now engaged in imparting values and spiritual teachings around the world . She has conducted lectures and seminars at various national and international events for the promotion of human values and the empowerment of women around the world . Through her many years of work, Dadi Janki has provided guidance and support to many, counseling them in a variety of areas, including emotional and psychological problems, family relationships and substance abuse. Her daily routine started at 3 am in the morning for meditation till 7 am. Her breakfast included oatmeal, upma and fruits followed by khichdi or vegetables in lunch and condensed soup of vegetables in dinner. In 1978, Scientists at the Medical and Science, Research Institute at the University of Texas, USA examined the brain wave pattern of Dadi Janki. She was described as the most stable mind in the world as her mental state remained completely undisturbed despite various kinds of external stimuli being applied. It was found that she emits delta waves even at trying times, leaving examiners surprised. (Delta brainwaves are slow, loud brainwaves- low frequency and deep penetrating, like a drum beat. They are generated in deepest meditation and dreamless sleep. Healing and regeneration are stimulated in this state.) She attributes her equanimous mental state to Raja Yoga meditation. Sharing tips for a calm mind, she said, "We waste a lot of time criticizing others instead of focusing on ourselves." In 2004, she was awarded Grand Cordon of the first order of Al Istiklal (the Medal of Independence) by HM King Abdullah of Jordan for her humanitarian services to the world. In 2005, The Peace Abbey presented Dadi Janki with the 2005 Courage of Conscience Award for a lifetime dedicated to the service of humanity. In 2019, at the age of 103, she travelled almost 72000 km in India and across the world for her services. Upon her death, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi tweeted: "Janki Dadi worked diligently for the society. Her efforts made a positive difference in the lives of many people ." The Indian president President Ram Nath Kovind stated that her contributions in the fields of spirituality, social welfare and women's empowerment had been invaluable. Dadi Hirdaya Mohini has now taken charge as the chief administrative head of the Prajapita Brahmakumaris at present. The Janki Foundation for promoting spirituality in Healthcare, was inspired and launched by Dadi Janki, and which advocates a healthcare model that combines the best of modern medicine with complementary approaches and spirituality. Research findings and clinical experience increasingly reveal the psychosomatic nature of disease and that spiritual factors have a significant part to play in recovery from illness. Launched in December 1997 at the Royal College of Physicians, London, the Janki Foundation’s premise is that better understanding of these factors can benefit both patient and practitioner by promoting healing, reducing stress and staff fatigue and raising morale. The President – About Dadi Janki Dadi Janki has also published several books, including Companion of God, Wings of Soul, and Pearls of Wisdom. Some wise sayings of Dadi Janki... “Yoga is awareness, a Sadhana of human to divine consciousness. The modern system looks after just physical health, whereas the term Health, encompasses a complete mental, social, physical and spiritual well-being. Raja Yoga meditation changes the internal physiological response to environmental circumstances, thereby creating an adaptive and positive response. The power of the mind to resist disease is increased enormously as the subconscious level is healed and higher consciousness is awakened.” “At least, put an end to the crisis within your own mind when you can’t do much about the crisis outside of you. Flexibility means converting your problems into teachers. Never lose hope, never give up — if the task is given, you will also get the power to fulfil it. Light and Might are with you as your Right from God. You can bend only when you are strong. Be like the lotus, take what is useful but do not let the dirt spoil your beauty. Sorrow makes one sick and scared, so do not take it from anyone. If you allow the negative in word, thought or form to enter you, then it is due to your weakness. Always ask what you have to do at this moment in time and not past or future.”

1000+ hours. If you want to avoid all the traps. But of course the studying itself will become a trap. So know when enough is enough. Most awakened people lack the proper study, thus their awakenings are incomplete and limited.

Source: http://www.imere.org/content/mystical-experience-a-new-life-2015 A dim golden ray appears in the Eastern horizon and spreads out slowly its radiant wings. It is a cold morning among the mountains. The earth is quiet in the deep silence of the boundless heaven. The noisy world is yet to come. The occasional breeze is refreshing. Trees, plants and bushes are waiting impatiently for the warmth of the rising sun. Leaves are studded with diamond like dewdrops. The mist settled among the blue mountains is thinning out slowly as the air gathers the sun’s warmth. Flowers seem to welcome the rising sun dancing joyfully with the playful breeze. The mind wanting to enjoy inner peace sets to meditation. It tries to gather itself in concentration. As it attempts to go deep within a casual thought arises distorting attention. One really wonders: “What are these thoughts?” Thoughts are nothing but disturbances within. We are inwardly living in a world of restless thoughts arising and falling like the waves of sea. Living in this world of thoughts is superficial. Thoughts chatter endlessly, not leaving a single moment of silence. Mind is crowded by thoughts leaving no space between them. One can suppress these thoughts to experience silence. But such silence brought by control of mind cannot go far. So, all what you can do is to watch the stream of thoughts without any choice. A thought arises and proceeds along. Then it subsides letting another thought to arise. Thus the stream of thoughts proceeds continuously through time. Why are you letting yourself go with the stream of thoughts? Because you feel that thoughts take you forward. But at close observation it is a false notion. Thoughts do not take you anywhere. In spite of all your wanderings in thoughts, you are still in the same old place. You will never arrive at anything new by going from one thought to another. Seeing this, can you realize the futility of pursuing thought after thought? With that flash of insight the miracle happened! Clinging to thoughts dropped down. The mind ceased to be. With that cessation of thoughts, a boundless space opened up – a dimension not known before. Mind awakened itself from all its illusionary and dreamy wanderings. All the petty limitations of the mind vanished away. They had been created by the center “I”. This is a wonderful dimension of freedom. With this miraculous opening one felt being born again to a new Life, which is so perfect and so sacred. How ecstatic is living now? Now the whole universe is revealing itself. As the mist cleared away, the vast sky appears in startlingly blue. The sun’s golden rays touched the mountain peaks. The roses dance to the rhythm of the gentle breeze cheerfully welcoming the new day. The freshly bloomed roses sweeten the air. Now every moment is charmingly sweet and fresh. One is amazed at this unique inner discovery. Every moment is amazingly joyous and fulfilling. No sorrow can touch this clarity. You can laugh at the sufferings you had gone through in the past. This dynamic quality is not a self-created elevation, nor a self-hypnotic delusion, nor a sentimental height brought about by a belief or faith. The mind is fully awake with all its intelligence and awareness. The mind has willingly ceased all its activities for the Vastness of the Cosmos to be. This is a rediscovery of Life.

Hi Adam! I hope you are doing well. Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. Exactly I already know that I am not Fully Enlightened because the one who is Fully Enlightened is not Confused anymore but my confusion is the proof that I am not the Genuinely & Fully Enlightened or Awakened. And I accept that and never claimed that I am Fully Enlightened. These questions at this Forum are itself my journey to exploring myself and finding the answer to my questions & confusion. By Shit, I assume you mean I am full of confusion and egoistic thoughts, etc... Exactly I already know that. I never claimed that I am 100% awaken. I know there's plenty of work to do. But according to my experience, there are no other beings. I can not find any other being. I am just aware of myself (Collection of Observer, Thoughts, Sensations, Colors, etc...). Then I label my thoughts, sensations, and colors, etc and assume and label them as World, Beings etc... Which is not necessary. And if there are not other beings then for whose sake I do what I do as you said "you master your life as a human being for the sake of other beings. I never claimed that I am 100% Awaken I just said I can't see anything other than myself (Collection of Observer, Thoughts, Sensations, Sounds, Colors, etc...) From my perspective there is no suffering, there is no world, there is no homeless person, No Child, No Drug Addict, etc... How & Why do I assume that there is a perspective of a homeless person when in reality there is no homeless person? I am not sure about that If I am free from suffering or not, because I have not tested my ability and see how do I react to any kind of suffering (physical & emotional pain). But In the near future, I want to put myself into pain willingly so I can understand suffering from God's Perspective and dissolve it into God. I didn't found any gift. I am that Gift. I can't find my body aspect a few sensations, colors, patterns, sounds & thoughts, etc. I want to help others but I can't find others. Where I can find others and help them? I am not fully awake and my confusion is proof of that. Why do you label your Imagination as a cave? There is no cave. Blood, tears, Impact, and world are just labels. In reality, there is only you & Me (One/Consciousness). Exactly & I already know that. Whatever I am experiencing is not a philosophy. That is my experience. Thoughts, Sensations, Sounds, Colors, etc are my experiences. This is not my philosophy. Can you experience anything other than Thoughts, Sensations, Sounds, Colors etc...? I don't want anyway to out of this problem. I want to understand the problem. I am not sure maybe it's true that I am trapped in the mind. I don't know what you mean by spiritual ego. I am not trying to become something or create something. I am just stuck in choosing 1 option from 2 options. I am not sure which decision to take and why? Maybe I don't have any awakening to throw. I am interested in getting my shit together but I can't find any shit or world. What kind of retreat do you want me to join? I have already done 10 Days of Vipassana retreat. Maybe someone could guide me on the right path. I thought You will be able to help me to come out of confusion and make the right decision with the answer to Why? Yes, I think I still have plenty of meditation, contemplation & research to do. I never said that I have no more reason to study & contemplate. You and I are the same consciousness. Do you as (consciousness) know the answer to the following question? What is the Universal Purpose of Consciousness? Why Consciousness labels its experiences (thoughts, sensations, colors, sounds) into something false which is not true and creates an illusory life & suffering, etc? Waiting for your response. Thanks

It seems to me that Jesus is saying (John 3) that "born again" means an actual transformation of the body of flesh into a body made of akasha. And that the akasha is awakened in the water in our bodies. Sadhguru mentioned how rudimentary life can emerge in distilled (complete vacuum state he called it) water. And this Nobel Prize winner has shown in 2009 how DNA can emerge in pure water:

@Marinador What you describe is not spiritual enlightenment. Loss of the ego is beautiful, integral, liberating, and awe-inspiring. Look at people like the Buddha, Gandhi, and the Dalai Lama. Do they suffer from the symptoms McKenna describes? They are simple, loving human beings that know who they and who everyone else really is. Spiritual enlightenment doesn't mean losing form awareness; you simply realize it for what it is. It is the awakening of sanity. The human mind is a fire. It destroys when it is out of control, and it provides light and warmth when it is tended. Spiritual enlightenment is simply the realization allowing the use of your mind rather than being used by your mind. @VeganAwake You are fortunate not to need the dissolving of religious attachments. We are the ultimate primal energy, playing peekaboo with itself @Dodo Love is a living realization, not an emotion. It is the experience of dissolving every false boundary that separates "me" from "you", and recognizing that there is only One. That is what Leo was talking about, and it is the same message from every person that has experienced awakening. You mention the ultimate Mystery, and you are right. Even the awakened can only point to it, but we cannot describe it. Leo mentioned it in his video. He sensed it, but he could not understand it. And it is not because Leo is stupid It is literally beyond human comprehension. The ancient Sanskrit term for ultimate reality is Tat, which literally means "That". That is the Uncaused Cause, That is the Ultimate Source, That is the Eternal beyond existence and non-existence. I love That, don't you?

It's not as black or white as choosing either awakening or girls lol. Awakening is not something that happens overnight, it takes years of focus, study, and practice. If you still desire women you will probably still desire them when you have awakened, and it might arise as a shadow side. So I say just do both. Go get all the girls you want while at the same time you meditate and study. They won't interfere with each other and if they do it's not a big deal. You created the interference with your mind. Just don't create and tell yourself it will work.

Of the classically awakened teachers, they can have different levels. Comparing them is really hard cause you can't get inside their skulls.

@Leo Gura Yeah i meant of that 0.00 whatever percent. You've said sadhguru and blabla are partially awakened. I didn't mean normies. of course the degrees dont start at 0.0001% otherwise the people on here wouldn't have degrees of it, which obviously they do.

Well the ego can get those things, because when you awaken, even big awakenings, there's still egoic shit going on. And you agree because you've said in the past that everyone is partially awakened. Even if you know deep down it was Truth that woke up, and not the ego. The ego is still clearly there. Because there's all this shit you want to purge. You seem to be making a distinction between knowing and abidance. Which sort of makes sense because awakened 'people' change state depending on what's going on, but the knowing is consistently the same. But I see abidance and knowing as the same thing. I've never experienced it happening before, but knowing must be impermanent too otherwise how does unenlightening happen.

Agree. But you do see how this whole situation could be regarded to be just like any other "argument" (although this of course isn't one) that flew off the rails into the domain of insulting people? (aka someone doesn't agree with you and you call them dumb?) You see, that's my whole point. Okay, you say you want to wake them up - great, keep doing that. But I think calling people dumb does more harm than good. I doubt it very much that this particular person will have awakened to his/her ignorance by your comment. Yes, I like that too.

But this is not inline with the spirit of Love, the God of Creation itself. Wasps and snakes have a beast nature - they are not awakened to Love, man can transcend the beast and see the Love, even if its hard. I would not ask God for such selfish things, that would be out of allignment with the Love beyond me. What one should be asking God right now is Save humanity, Save the planet, Ascend, lets Ascend together to Heaven so Earth is a Heavenly realm once again. In heaven everybody lives in Love, in the glory of Love. Nothing hidden, no adultery, no unnecessary pain caused by sleeping men. Frequency so high we enter heaven directly. And the pulls of the deceiver will get less strong as we ascend, together. Leo is Love

I am not awakened yet, but the more woke I become, the more I realize that FOMO is bs and everything is perfect. I basically experience less and less FOMO as I become more woke. YET, there is still this magnetic longing for certain experiences that you want to live out as this bodymind. So there is still some "seeking" in a sense, but it feels way more healthy and way less neurotic and I personally get a lot of pleasure out of it. It is a sort of Exploration of the world while accepting the moment as is with ever-increasing strength and intensity. There is no more winning and losing as winning/losing is a duality, but there this vastness of various experiences that you can experience in your life which you can pick and choose which will have a unique meaning to you as you are unique yourself I hope what I wrote makes sense

I am the first non awakened jewish semi-shark people . Ask me anything. ?

An awakened French woman asked: "In this materialistic age the real feeling of love is disappearing from our life, Most of the love we receive from others and express to others is superficial. How can we reinforce the real feeling of love in our own life and in others." False prophet says:

I would imagine all of the above honestly... there's no real telling. I have heard everything from, major life transformation to nothing really noticeable externally changing at all. It is very radical and fun to talk about so it does seem that there are quite a few that find a way to earn an income by sharing their communication whether by writing books, holding retreats and online discussion groups with those who are open-minded and interested in the message.... but it's obviously easier to find these people because of their popularity. Simultaneously I would imagine it must happen all over the world and I'm sure some don't really discuss it that much at all.... I heard a story about an awakened guy discussing it with some people at a bar and his longtime friend grabbed him by the neck because he was so frustrated with what he was talking about.... So one probably should be aware of the company he or she is talking to...lol. When Awakening occurred here for example I still had three years left in the military before getting a retirement pension for the rest of my life. It just made sense financially for our family for me to finish up and get that retirement. Just simply can't tell it's fair game afterwards ❤

Any awakened being will tell you that Truth is the ultimate mystery. We can experience it nonconceptually, but it is impossible to comprehend.