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@Scholar If a person is whole, and coming from a place of wholeness - Suicide will not be the answer nor will rape nor will replacing hair without anesthesia. With all due respect, I do believe SoonHei was dealing with mental illness in some form. One of the most valuable supports I have is a therapist and I highly recommend everyone connect in person to someone who can display wholeness.

So you think whether or not people choose suicide is a matter of how the information is presented instead of it being presented? In your previous message you said "Don't tell this anyone".

@Leo Gura In your video ('Dangers of Spiritual Work') you have talked about that if someone will go All the way with spirituality then at the end he will have to surrender his entire life. This sounds like suicide. Also i don't think someone who commits suicide , regrets it.

This won't work. You can't just tell someone "Suicide and self harm is wrong! But also, morality is illusiory, everything including rape and torture is Love and Perfection. And by the way you can't die because you are God!". You give this knowledge to a child, he will cut himself with it. This is inevitable. This is serious stuff here, you can't just market it to the masses and expect everything to go well. The disclaimers are nothing but PR games. There is a reason why spiritual traditions that were successful did not spout "radical truth" to everyone on the street, telling them "You are God, I am God, it's all a dream!". If Buddhism did this it wouldn't exist today. Secondly, these traditions all firmly establish and importance in morality. There is a reason for this, it's not just "stage blue absolutism". None of the stuff Leo is teaching has been tested for more than a decade, nor do we even truly know the results. We have a confirmation bias of people just praising him. You have no idea how many people already killed themselves because of this. But better pretend like it's not your responsibility. I'm sure with an attitude like that, these teachings will stand the test of time.

Or he just got tired of material reality ? Don't understand why people are so dogmatic with suicide. He maybe was happy and have achieved enough emotional freedom and non-attachment. We will never know . Pd: of course I'm not doing apology of suicide. I'm just we don't was happening through his mind

If someone had no mental illness and was happy the obvious question arises if it was suicide. Even if the case was closed you can not know it 100%. However, the case of someone falling down a bridge is hard to close even with witnesses. Because, if they would be too close they would help and would not go to police if it wasn't successful or if they didn't tried it because of fear being arrested. If they would be more far away they probably haven't seen important details like what he said e.g.. I ever saw cameras installed on bridges. He could also be forced to do this etc.

@Leo Gura just a heads up. you need to issue stricter disclaimers on both forum and videos that this work needs serious commitment and should never involve any form of self harm or overdose or suicide ideation. Especially given the Connor incident and now this, such incidents can be on the rise.

It should not be surprising, the philosophy Leo is using to describe spirituality is even more radical than this. Connor is a good example of this too. If you say everything is Good and Love, it is simply illogical to claim that it is better to do X. This philosophy claims to recognize that torture and rape is Perfection. Not just suicide. This is another reason why you ought to be careful about how you construct this philosophy. See, if people truly believe what you say, the might blow themselves up together with others for Jihad. And then what do you do as a teacher? You say "No no, this is bad PR, this is wrong! When I said everything is Good and Perfect, I actually meant you should behave morally because it's stupid to behave immorally!". Are you sure? See, because you are contradicting yourself, if someone truly believes what you say with actual conviction, he will laugh at you, as Connor does at Leo when he tries to tell him what he is doing is "bad". Clearly in one moment you say it's bad and in the other you say it's Perfection. You tell him whatever fits your agenda. And he will clearly see this if he truly and fully is convinced that reality is perfection, or that it is a dream, or anything else. See, if reality is a dream, every excuse for why you should not torture someone goes out the window. You can pretend like this is not the case, but it is.

@Shin don't guilt yourself. @Sleyker @Michael569 you both need to chill with the detective attitude. The guy committed suicide because he wanted to find his way that way. It's over. It's that simple. I wish he had found the right kind of help.

In general there is too less information. You probably don't even know if it was suicide at all. And if a person has really jumped from a bridge, there is currently probably no evidence that it was a forum member. At least I don't see one.

@Leo Gura Hi Leo! This is SoonHei's sister using his account trying to find out why he took the step that he did. I can confirm that he did in fact die on May 3rd by jumping off of a bridge. His message to his wife was: "Oh I was never ending it. I was just continuing it. I just wanted to jump. Love you all. See you soon." Similar message to what he sent to the person who started this thread (first post). Now most important, SoonHei asked NAHM very directly before committing this act. I really wish NAHM had guided him better. SoonHei could not have been clearer. I will attach screenshots of their conversation in my next post. If someone can tell us what he was trying to do, please do. We cannot explain to you the shock of his death. We cannot wrap our heads around why he would do this. SoonHei was someone who has literally saved others from depression and suicide. We keep hearing stories from people that he helped in their darkest hour. I can tell you for a fact that he did not suffer from any mental illness or depression. Sunny was SO SO full of life. He has left behind a 3 month old and a 20 month old. It is hard to even look at his 27-yr-old wife who was barely out of the post-partum phase with her baby. SoonHei was a very central part of our family. The most kind-hearted soul. An amazing son, a wonderful husband, the most supportive brother, and above all, a one-in-a-million father. I feel like our whole family will go into depression...

Guys, before you get too carried away with this, we need some evidence or confirmation that this suicide actually happened. It is not a given that it did. Suicidal and mentally ill people can often threaten suicide for attention and other reasons. OP, please provide further evidence or explanation of how you know this suicide actually happened. I take this issue seriously and we need to be clear about facts vs assumptions and speculation. Keep in mind that people on this forum do lie and manipulate sometimes. Sometimes we get people with serious mental illnesses here who behave in erratic and irrational ways, or play games.

Your channel is growing and your videos are literally hours long each, so any point you stress can very easily be lost within your other hundreds of daily posts and hours of video. I remember when I was introduced to your work, I was curious on your views of suicide, and it took me some "digging" to find it.

If you die by stopping your breath consciously and without an ounce resistance then this is Mahasamadhi, but dying by damaging your body is suicide, it's not conscious death, if one is conscious he doesn't need to damage the body. edit: his account says last visited 6 minutes

Keep in mind that suicide is not so rare in the general population. 48,000 suicides in the USA in 2018. My videos have nearly 100 million views. With numbers like that, some of our members will at some point commit suicide. This is inevitable. And ultimately, people have the sovereignty to kill themselves. You cannot stop them if they are set on it. Nor do you even have the right to stop them as that is you imposing your agenda and will on them. What's important to underscore is that spirituality and enlightenment has nothing to do with physically harming the body. I've said that in the past and I will stress it more in the future. A few weeks ago I started to add larger disclaimers to my videos stressing the point that enlightenment has nothing to do with harming of the body. You can find the new, larger, clearer disclaimers under my recent videos on YT. These larger, clearer disclaimers will soon also be added to the Actualized Clips channel. It is very important that people who follow these teachings clearly understand that these teachings have nothing to do with physical harm of one's body or prematurely ending one's life. Which is really obvious, but it must be stressed regardless because some people get very foolish ideas. Life is a dream and a game, but if you jump off a bridge, this dream will end and you will probably regret it. Not only should you not harm your physical body, you should take good care of it, being extra responsible with your health. A spiritual person must treat their health with more care than the average person.

Perhaps Leo should make a video on "Suicide" to clarify that while death may simply be an illusion, Suicide is a step backwards in the spiritual journey?

@Muhammad Jawad I'm so sorry for you loss man.. This is shocking to read... May he rest in peace? This is a very tricky question, especially in this context of his death. Suicide, i.e. killing the body assumes identification with the body. But if I know that I am not the body, then killing the body is unnecessary. Spirituality is supposed to make you see that you are not limited to the body. "Is it possible to liberate myself from death by killing myself?" I think you see the futility in that.

This is sad news indeed, sorry to hear and also remember that you have many friends on this forum! Spiritual work is a dangerous game, but so is life, there are no guarantees for anything. Many people who begin their journey are dealing with depression, depersonalisation disorders etc... That being said, talk of death/consciousness and the spiritual journey is a very delicate subject, because although it is the understanding of many that death is only an illusion, never personally experienced, I would promote compassion to all in their journey to overcome suffering. While you may be eager to "see what happens after you die", remember that all actions carry with them consequences, "cosmic karma" lets call it. Lets say you prove death illusory through a suicide, remember that the action still carries with it cosmic consequences as you ultimately put your direct experience above that of others who will suffer in your wake. I do not wish to blame anyone. I wish peace to Soonhei's soul and hope that he does not suffer, and I wish peace as well to those he has left behind. Time heals all wounds as we work for a better world.

Then why you left her alone in this world and killed yourself after the 6 days of this post? :-( "And exactly after the 6 days of this post, that Amazing & Loving Person "SoonHei" Jumped from the Bridge in Toronto Canada, committed suicide and gave his life and died at the night of 3rd May 2021" :-( And he took this step, just to prove his own self that he is right about his understanding of life, death & God. He was my best & only friend. :-(

"And exactly after the 3 days of this post, that Amazing & Loving Person "SoonHei" Jumped from the Bridge in Toronto Canada, committed suicide and gave his life and died at the night of 3rd May 2021" :-( And he took this step, just to prove his own self that he is right about his understanding of life, death & God. He was my best & only friend. :-(

"And exactly after the 2 days of this post, that Amazing & Loving Person "SoonHei" Jumped from the Bridge in Toronto Canada, committed suicide and gave his life and died at the night of 3rd May 2021" :-( And he took this step, just to prove his own self that he is right about his understanding of life, death & God. He was my best & only friend. :-(

"And exactly after this post, that Amazing & Loving Person "SoonHei" Jumped from the Bridge in Toronto Canada, committed suicide and gave his life and died. at the night of 3rd May 2021" :-( He was my best friend. :-(

"And exactly after this post, that Amazing & Loving Person "SoonHei" Jumped from the Bridge in Toronto Canada, committed suicide and gave his life and died." :-( He was my best friend. :-(

The Glass Pyramid by Greg Margolis Part I 1. 2007 On the helicopter, Lynne is looking at the photo of herself and Michael. Harry is piloting the helicopter, with John looking on. Harry is looking at a piece of notebook paper. John: What's that? Harry: Cheat sheet Jensen drew for me. John: You don't know where’s your landing field? Harry: I know where it is. The helicopter begins flying into heavy gray clouds. John: Why are you flying directly into the storm? Harry: Why don't you just sit back and let me do my job, huh? John turns to look at Lynne, who is still looking at the photograph. John: Is that Mike? Lynne: Yes. The helicopter experiences turbulence. Lightning strikes Harry: Damn it! Harry struggles to keep the chopper steady. Harry: Hold on! Lynne looks around, gripping the seat. 2. 1993 Michael is asleep. His hair is cut short, and he's in a military base. SERGEANT: ON YOUR SODDING FEET! MOVE! MOVE! MOVE! Michael opens his eyes. It takes him a few moments to realize where he is. SERGEANT: What are you waiting for, Norman? Michael rockets out of his bed and gets into line. SERGEANT: What's the matter, Norman? Did you not hear me? Michael: I'm sorry, Sir. I was...I was having a dream, Sir. SERGEANT: Having a dream, were you? And what were you dreaming about, that it took you SO SODDING LONG TO GET TO YOUR MARK??!! Michael: I was on a helicopter, Sir. And there was a storm, Sir. And… I don't remember the rest, Sir. SERGEANT: Well, at least it was a bloody military dream. Right! All of ya! In the yard, four minutes. And you can thank Private Norman for having to do it in double time. Move! *** A group of 15 soldiers are in the mud and rain, doing pushups. SOLDIER 1: One, two, three! REST: Four! SOLDIER 1: One, two, three! REST: Five! SERGEANT: One hundred crunches! Go, go, go, go, go! SOLDIER 1: One, two, three, four... John: I hope your dream was worth it, mate. Michael: I'm sorry, brother. It's just that, I've never had a dream so vivid. It was like I was actually THERE. SEARGANT: Have you got something to say, Norman? Michael remains silent. SERGEANT: I asked you a question, soldier! 3. 2007 Lynne is extremely disturbed. Harry: We're almost through it. I see daylight! Lynne begins to unbuckle herself John: What are you doing? Lynne! Are you alright? Lynne: Lynne?! My name is Michael! 4. November 14th, 1993. In the office of Professor Arthur Jensen at Oxford University, his wife, Maggie is drinking her third cup of black coffee. Arthur tries again to phone the chopper via a very special satellite. Galethea & The Galactic Traveler stand nearby. The Traveler: Alright. They took off a day ago. Why haven't we heard from them? Maggie: I'm going to tell you again, as I've been telling you all night. I don't know! You heard the same thing as I did when we called the helicopter. What makes you think I know anything? Galethea: Because you're not worried. Maggie: Excuse me? Galethea: Your Channel Tunnel is 30 miles long, it should have taken them, what? 20 minutes to get there? So why aren't you worried? Maggie: Should I join my hands together and whisper a prayer on their behalf!? Arthur: Hey, hey, hey, c'mon. Maybe we should just…just tell them. Traveler: Tell us what? Maggie: Honey, let's not confuse anyone. Galethea: Well, Professor, maybe if you talk real slow, we'll be able to follow. Professor Jensen takes a deep breath and says okay. Arthur: Your perception of how long your friends have been gone, is not necessarily how long they've actually been gone. Traveler: What does that mean? Maggie: This is a mistake. Arthur: It'll be fine, it'll be fine. As long as Harry flew on the bearings I gave him. If he stayed on them, it'll be fine. Traveler: And what if he didn't? Arthur: Then there might be… um…let's call it side effects. *** On the copter. John: We're at eight hundred feet, sit down! Lynne: What am I doing here!? Harry: What the hell's going on!? John: Something's wrong with Lynne! Lynne: I'm Michael, for Christ sake! Harry: Hold her there, John! John: I'm trying! Lynne: Let go of me! Harry: We'll be there in two minutes! The helicopter digresses down, and comes close to the french coast. John lets Lynne go. She notices the photo clenched in her hand. The helicopter lands. As John sees 2 soldiers run over to meet the passengers, he arms himself. Wes: Harry, what are you doing back? Eric: Who are they?! Harry: Members of the Council. Wes: You shouldn't have brought them here, what the hell were you thinking?! Lynne: Alright, where am I? who are you people? Eric: Calm down, Lynne. Lynne: What am I doing here? Why you keep calling me Lynne? John: My friend is disoriented! Lynne: I'm not your friend! I don't know you! Wait.. are you John Morrison? John: Yes, Lynne! You've remembered! Wes: When did she start doing this? Harry: She was fine when we took off. When we hit some weather... Hey, Jensen told me as long as I stayed on the vector… Wesley motions for him to stay quiet. He and Eric step toward Lynne but are blocked by John. Wes: What's your name, my friend? John: John. Wes: Okay, John. Look, we're going to take your friend to the nearest hospital. John: I'm going with you. Wes: Let a doctor look at her first, then you can come down. You got my word on that. John, after some time, nods. Wesley and Eric approach Lynne. Eric: All right. Lynne: Listen, listen. This is a mistake. Eric: Settle down. Lynne: I don't know these people. Except John, with whom I serve. But he looks older. That's strange… and he's got a beard… Eric: I understand. Lynne: No, this is wrong! I'm not supposed to be... 5. 1993 Michael is standing up while the rest of his regiment is doing crunches. Michael: …here! SOLDIER 1: Twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three... SERGEANT: Here? Here what? What the hell are you doing on your feet, Norman? Are you finished with your crunches, because you want to RUN?! Right! Squad, on your feet! Right face! Ten kilometers, go, go, go, go, go! *** Evening. The soldiers are loading a truck. John: What the hell's the matter with you, Mike? Michael: If I told you, you'd think I'm crazy. John: I already know you're crazy. They laugh. Michael: This morning, when I was in the yard doing crunches, I left. John: What do you mean, left? Michael: I was on the french beach. And then I was back here...right where I started. John: Mike, if you're trying to get tossed out of service... Michael: John, I'm telling you the truth, man. John: Who else was on this...beach? Anyone you recognized? Michael: Lynne. There was a photo. I was in the photo. John: Who's Lynne? Michael: My girlfriend. At least she was… Michael gets up and walks away. John: where are you going? Michael: To call Lynne. Michael walks over to a phone booth. As he steps up, a soldier comes out of the phone booth, bumping him and knocking the change out of his hand. SOLDIER 3: Thanks for this morning, Norman. Michael: I'm sorry, brother! SOLDIER 3: Yeah, whatever… The soldier walks toward John and starts helping him load the truck. Michael bends down to pick up the coins. 6 2007 Lynne almost falls over. Wes: Watch your step. Take it easy. Lynne: I'm not here. This...this isn't happening. Wes: You ARE here. And, this IS happening. Look, we're going to take care of you. They enter an SUV. Lynne: Who are you people? Wes: Well, my name is Wesley and this is Eric. I'm from Vegas and he's from Florida, but as for where we are, I… Eric: The last portal was Paris. So we know we're in France. *** John is on the beach. It’s hot. It reminds him of how he felt on his Solo Navigation Drill in the army, all those years back. John: What's happening to Lynne? Your friends know what's wrong with her. Harry: Well if they do, they're not sharing it with me. John: Then perhaps you'll share how we've flown for 20 minutes, took off at dusk and landed in the middle of the day! Harry: Listen. I don't know what's happening to your buddy, alright? But you gotta trust me when I tell you this. I AM trying to help you. John: You want to help me? Give me your Satellite Phone. Let me call my people. Harry: You give me that gun and I'll give you this phone. They trade. Harry: Be quick. And don't go trying to call The Arrow Paradox Command. Those phones can only call each other. John thinks: 'You sure about that?' but doesn't say anything. In his office, the one of a kind satellite phone rings. Professor Jensen answers. Arthur: Hello? John: Arthur, it's John. I'm on the french coast. Arthur: Are you okay? Where have you been? John: Something happened during the flight, and now Lynne's in the hospital. Arthur: Hold on. You're on speaker. John: On the helicopter, something happened to Lynne. She did recognized me but she was talking nonsense. The Traveler to The Professor: The side effects you talked about? Arthur, ignoring the traveler, spoke to the speaker: Your friend, Lynne? Was she recently been exposed to high levels of radiation or electromagnetism? Galethea looked up at The Traveler. Their eyes meet. John: As a matter a fact, yes. She was. She had an experimental eye surgery. Lasers or some such… Arthur: Okay, look. Uh, we don't know why exactly, but going to and coming from the The Channel Tunnel, some people can get a little... Forgetful. John: You mean Lynne's lost her memory? Arthur: No, it’s not Amnesia. We’re talking about a temporary lapse of memory. 7 1993 Michael is in the rain at the military camp, picking up his coins. Going into the phone booth, he inserts them and dials the number. Lynne: Hello? Michael: Lynne, it’s me. Lynne: What do you want, Michael? Michael: Uh, Lynne, listen. I'm in trouble, and I think something's happening to me. I'm confused and I want to see you. Lynne: You broke up with me and joined THE ARMY! Now you call with the expectation that I still care about you? Yeah, I’d say you ARE confused, Michael. Michael: No, no, I'm not. It's... look, I've got a weekend off starting this Thursday at 06:00. Can I...can I come and see you? Lynne: No. No, and don't bother showing up at the apartment, either, 'cause I moved. Michael: Moved? Where? Lynne: That doesn't matter. Michael, I'm going to hang up. Please, don't call me again. Flat Line. 8 2007 Lynne in in a hospital bed. Sedated. Another Complete Blank Space and time all fall behind Strange machines to soothe my mind Resting this sensory sleep keeps me confined Recalling a memory undefined Dr Ray Davis: Did you just experience something, Lynne? Before Lynne can answer him yes, John and Harry come in. Dr. Davis: What the hell, Harry? You're not supposed to be down here, and definitely not with him. Harry: Sorry, doc, but I've got Jensen calling from Oxford, he needs to talk to Lynne. Dr Davis: No, Jensen's not talking to my patient. Get out of here. John: She's not your patient! John slams the doctor to the nearest wall. Dr. Davis: Hey! John: Give Lynne the phone. Dr. Davis, knowing the hospital as well as his palm after 25 years of medical experience as The Head of Internal Brain Injury Department, quickly – not as quick as he was at his twenties, but quick enough – sounds the emergency alarm. John: Give her the phone now! Dr. Davis does so. Lynne takes the phone. John closes the door. Witnesses – 1. John Morrison 2. Harry Lombardi 3. Ray Davis In Room 117 of The Hôpital Saint-Antoine, the following conversation is taking place: Lynne: Hello? Professor Jensen: Lynne! Lynne, my name is Arthur Jensen. We met yesterday before you took off. But I'm guessing you don't remember that. Am I right? Lynne: You are. Took off? I really don't remember… what happened? We were in a car crash.. mike and me… is he okay? Arthur: Lynne, we don't have long to talk, so I need you to tell me what year you think it is. Lynne: What do you mean, what year do I think it…it's the morning of The New Millenium! January 1st, 2000. Or possibly January 2nd.. My head hurts like a bastard so I might have passed out for more than 24 hours. It can happen. I'm a Med Student. I know all about it. Is it Y2K? Silence. Arthur: Alright, Lynne, look. You got to tell me... where are you? Lynne: Um...I'm in some kind of hospital room. Arthur: No, no… Not right now, Lynne. Where are you supposed to be? Where are you in Dec 31st, 1999? Lynne: Uh. Sandringham Gardens, Norfolk, England. The Royal Queen’s Guard Training Facility. Maggie: Maybe we should… Arthur: No, no, no. I'm thinking, I'm thinking. Lynne, Listen. When it happens again, you'll be in 1993. Lynne, I need you to get on a train. Get on a train and go to Oxford. Oxford University, Physics Department. Alright? Lynne: What, why? What are you talking about, 1993? Arthur: Because I need you to find ME. You are time traveling, my dear. Lynne: No, Sir. That's not possible. The Arrow Paradox says so. Professor Arthur Jensen sighs and begins to search his office. The Galactic Traveler is there with him and Maggie, just like he was on that fateful day 14 years ago. Arthur: Where is it? Maggie: What? Arthur: The Glass Pyramid. I need the Pyramid or I won't believe her. Maggie: What are you talking about? What Pyramid? Arthur: It’s an experimental project I was working on for the last month. Maggie (Surprised): You never told ME about any new projects. Arthur: I’m sorry, honey. I was not at liberty to tell you. The Traveler interrupts: Why does she think she’s in 2000? Arthur: I don't know, I don't know. It's unpredictable, it's a random effect. Sometimes it takes hours, sometimes years. The Traveler: I know, it happened on that day in 1993, I remember. Arthur: Not only then. The Traveler: Wait, wait…WHAT?! What do you mean, not only then? Arthur: It happened TWICE before. Once in 1993 and on one other occasion. The Traveler: That's news to me. Why wasn't I told about this until now? Arthur: Now, my friend, is all there is. The Professor finds The Glass Pyramid. Arthur: [Into the phone] Lynne, you still there? John is blocking the door, behind which there is yelling. John: Talk to him! I can't hold them for long. Lynne [To Arthur, yelling]: Of course. Where else would I be? Arthur: Okay, Lynne, listen. When you find me at Oxford, I need you to tell me to set the device to 12.045 Lynne got up from the bed, took a pen and began to write on her left wrist. Lynne: 12.045 got it. Arthur: And that it must be oscillating at 885 Hertz. You got it, Lynne? Lynne: And oscillating at 885 Hz, yes. Arthur: One last thing, Lynne. If the numbers won’t convince me, I need you to tell me that you know about The Compass. 9 Thursday, October 7th, 1993. 7:30 AM Michael is on the train. On his way to his parents' house. The house he grew up in. London, England. Reflecting on his broken relationship with Lynne Daniels. What was I thinking. Of course she reacted like that on the phone. I haven’t been in ANY kind of contact for over 3 months. She lied, she hasn’t moved. I’ll bet money on that. But she asked you. Don’t call her again. It’s over, Mike. You know it is. Go home, take a shower, sleep, wake up tommorow and you know what? Go visit your brother at Oxford. After graduating high school and working at a Textile Factory for 3 years, Michael chose, unexpectedly, a military career. Why? Because of Lynne’s father, Anthony. A wealthy man. The kind of man HIS father never was and the kind of man, he, Michael, wanted to be. So in order to prove himself worthy of Mr. Daniels’ daughter, he joined The Queen’s Guard. His one and only meeting with Mr. Daniels was 4 months ago. On his 21st birthday, as it happened. He remembered that meeting as if it happened five minutes ago and he will never forget it. May 28th, 1993 12:05 PM Mr. Anthony Daniels: Lynne didn't tell me you are a factory worker, Michael. Hard work, If I could say so myself. Impressive. Micheal Norman: Thank you, Sir. Mr. Daniels: What about academy? Thinking of applying for University? Michael: I am not a man of means, Sir. I hope to be, one day. University costs a lot now days. I had to look after my 2 sisters after my father came into financial straits. Mr. Daniels: Any military experience? Michael: No, sir. Noticing a work of art on the wall, A Ship in the Ocean, Michael said: "She's beautiful, Mr. Daniels" Mr Daniels looked directly at Michael's green eyes. Michael: Your ship, I mean. Mr. Daniels smiled. So did Michael. Mr. Daniels: Thank you kindly, Michael. Call me Anthony. I'm going to see to it that you have a position in our administrative department. Not the most glamorous duty but it's a start. I'll speak to human resources. Michael: With all due respect, Anthony, I haven't come here to interview for a position in your company. Anthony: You haven't? Michael: No, Sir. I came here to ask for your daughter's hand in marriage. We've been together for 2 years. Lynne's moving in. I love her very much. Your permission would mean the world to me. Anthony: A very noble gesture. Anthony went for the liquor cabinet and pulled a bottle of XO Cognac and two glasses. Anthony: This is Anderson Cognac. Named after Sir David Anderson, an esteemed General from the Royal Navy. He retired with more medals than any man, before or since. He moved to the Scottish Highlands to see out his remaining years. General Anderson is a great man, Mike. This is his crowning achievement. Anthony poured some into Michael's glass and then a similar amount into his own. Anthony: Cheers. Michael: This swallow is worth more than my father made in one MONTH in his prime. To share it with you, Sir, is an honour. Friday, October 8th, 1993 2:33 PM He walks down a hall, and sees an elderly man talking to a young individual. He assumes he just witnessed an academy faculty professor having a conversation with one of his students. Neither he, nor any of his immidiate family ever were on a college campus, let alone university up until 2 years ago, when his younger brother, Liam, was accepted to Law School at Oxford University. Professor Arthur Jensen: ...not a single piece of original thinking. You DO understand the concept of original, Matthew, don't you? the opposite of repetitive? Now I'm the one you need to impress, Mr. Hollister, and I'm not impressed. So go. Go try again. Matthew Hollister: Yes, Professor Jensen. I'll try it on my next experiment. Professor Arthur Jensen: You do that. Matthew took his papers with him, put them in his bag and went toward the dormitories. Professor Jensen shook his head and was about to head the other way, when another student - in his opinion - asked him a question. Michael: Um, sorry. Are you a professor? Arthur: Professor Arthur Jensen, Physics Department. And you are...? SHOCKING TRUTH CLIMATE CHANGE FLOODS AND FIRES HURRICANES Silence from the student. Great, Arthur thought, now I need to breathe whatever this young fellow is smoking. Don't they have regulations around here? It's Oxford, for heaven's sake. Michael: Um...sorry, I'm Michael Norman, and um...I was told I could find you here. I think I've ... just been.. to… umm… The Future. Michael green eyes met Arthur's brown ones. Arthur: ...The Future? Michael: Yes. Uh, I spoke to you there, you told me to come here, to Oxford, to find you. Arthur: Why didn't I just help you there, in the future? Michael: I'm sorry? Arthur: Why would I put you through the headache of time travel? You know what I mean, it just seems a little... unnecessary? Don't you think? And don't you think that my colleagues could have come up with something just a little more believable, huh? What kind of a prank is that? Mostly to himself, Arthur said: "Paradox. So uninspiring" Michael: Set your device to um... 12.045 and make sure it oscillates at 885 Hertz. Arthur: Okay, now you, you're going to tell me who told you those numbers. Michael: You did. Arthur: No, this is — this is ridiculous. Michael: I know about The Compass. *** Arthur takes Michael into his laboratory. Michael: where are we? Arthur: This is where I conduct my experiments. Alright, this, this future version of me... uh, he referenced this meeting, right? Obviously, so, so I would remember you coming to Oxford, right? I would remember this, here, right now. Michael: I guess… Arthur, again, to himself: Of course I would. Michael: So this, this is changing the future? Arthur: You can't change the future because it hasn’t happened yet. Arthur puts on some kind of protective suit. Much like the Atomic/Chemical/Biological Unit, Michael has trained with at the base. Michael: What's that for? Arthur: Radiation. Michael: Do I get one? Arthur: You don't need one. It’s for prolonged exposure; I do this 20 times a day. Arthur flicks some switches and then reaches over, taking out a 3 by 3 foot piece of glass. It looked nice, Michael thought. Arthur: And this… is The Glass Pyramid. Michael: What does it do? Arthur: This, if the numbers you gave me are correct, will Astral Project your consciousness through the Space Time Continuum. Arthur presses a button. 9\11\01 SUICIDE PLANES TOWERS CRUMBLE HEROES DIE Michael: What just happened? Arthur: Nothing. Michael: What? Arthur: The pyramid, for some reason, didn't work. End of Part I

Yes your philosophy teachers response is timely. Meaning and meaningless are two sides of the same coin. You cannot have meaning without meaningless, this is what frames the opposite to exist. Yes for sure. That’s why I responded. I’ve been through this multiple times the most memorable being 3-4 years ago when I began to question everything to the point I saw no reason to do anything. I realised that even suicide is meaningless. But moving beyond this stage, I saw that recognising the absence of meaningfulness meant all things can be valued. I saw that I prescribed myself suffering attempting to manipulate reality to fulfil all the needs that would align to my conception of meaning. I could see meaning is a fabricated reality. When I let go of this, I saw the value of life and that there’s is no point and no meaning for that matter. Paradoxically, this becomes the most meaningful thing you could ever imagine. I fail to get bogged down in nihilistic thinking much at all these days. That’s the power of moving through these stages previously.