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So why make this thread if you're all alone in the universe? Who are you addressing? I am not meaning this in any condescending or obtuse tone, I'm just trying to form my own theoretical foundation by looking at other people's experiences of nonduality.

@Ferdi Le Yes! , thank you. That is pretty much how i'm planning to approach it. I feel like they would be overwhelmed if i talked to them too much about selfimprovement/nonduality.

@Moses Sometimes it means to be willing to get a negative reaction. Unconditional love/acceptance is basically nonduality. Most aren't there. An many aren't even willing to hold space for discussing topics that make them feel uncomfortable. If you're close with them they might hold space for uncomfortable topics but if not then I would read into conflict resolution/anger management skills so you could bring the conversation to peace. Otherwise I personally don't see it happening but that doesn't mean there isn't a way to make it happen.

Nonduality means psychosis, spirits/demons, repression, trauma, depression, malaise, etc is all the very same illusion.

I recommend reading Discovery of the Presence of God: Devotional Nonduality by Dr. David R. Hawkins. He talks about the personal will vs. the Spiritual Will. The subjective state of personal will is an egoic construct in the mind, whereas with enlightenment you realize the omnipresent Self is what actually acts through you.

@remember Of course nonduality should be taught differently to children and adults. The question of love being twisted is seen through the lens of a conditioned adult. An adult that sees "good" vs "bad" and "love" vs. "hate". Of course deconstructing that will be uncomfortable to adults. Yet children are prior to the creation/attachment/identification to that construct. . . If I told you fligfod = tuglin, it would not be a problem for you because you have not created, and become attached/identified, with a construct of fligfod vs. tuglin. If I told you there was a planet in which aliens believed fligfod was good and tuglin was evil, yet ultimately they are the same - you would have no problem with that because you have no attachment/identification with fligfod and tuglin. As well, you do not base your survival and well-being on fligfod and tuglin. . . Similarly, children have not yet become attached/identified to adult constructs - constructs that adults portray onto children. . . This is very difficult to see for adults because we are identified and immersed within these constructs and are unable to deconstruct back prior to our immersion into the construct.

@Serotoninluv i`m not saying that nonduality is not meant for children, but even then i would be really careful in what way i would introduce any child to nonduality. i`m saying leos non duality is not meant for children. i`m sure he would even point that out himself, as he probably knows how dark he sometimes is. as we are talking about nonduality it`s always about the nonduality of the whole dream isn`t it? i recently watched a father talking to his daughter while holding her, arms locked looking into her eyes and telling her in a verry direct way with a very clear and calm voice that she had to put on her jacket because they would have to leave the train. it was in a sense verry effective in pulling her out of her dream world but i could also see how she was scared by the sudden piercing and in a sense almost brutal way he showed his love especially because he was verry close to her face. her first reaction when he put her down on the floor again was to walk away. she was really cute singing and reading books all along, she was a bit hyper active but, he could probably have told her differently, she didn`t seem like she would not understand it if she was told it differently. so non duality is probably not just what the child makes up but also in what way the childs worldview is built. the second what is love video was very similar to that - i totaly agree that love can be brutal but the question is if we then still need to call it love, it`s very twisted.

@rememberIn some ways, introducing nonduality to kids is completely natural. If one introduces a child prior/during the construct of the self it is no biggie. For example, if a five year old is conditioned to realize that we create the construct of a self and it isn't real - it's no big deal. Similar to when a child has a nightmare and we tell the child that it's ok, it's just a dream. The child can also see that waking life is also a dream. To us adults, it's a radical idea - yet so was the internet. And know kids accept it as obvious. Recently, quantum mechanics is showing that two entities at a distance can be in immediate communication with each other and that material and immaterial can have simultaneously be everywhere and nowhere. This is radical to adults, yet when children are taught this - it will be like OK. It won't be any more radical than the internet to them. My 9 y.o. niece is an expert lucid dreamer. She has created a highly sophisticated dreamworld that is very real. She is having difficulty differentiating between her dreamworld and waking world. All the adults around her are telling her that there is something wrong with her. That she needs to let go of the dreamworld and fully accept her waking life as the real world. This may have practical value in being able to function in a waking world in which 99.9999% of the humans think is real. However it has also caused her immense anxiety and panic. I'm the only one she can talk to in which dream = real and real = dream. If all children were taught that there was one continuous dream, it wouldn't be a big deal. Kids would be like "OK, when do we get ice cream"? . . . It's an existential threat to adults because we have a lifetime of conditioning in which we created a personal story and an external reality of waking life.

@OBEler You got ideologized because you didn't contemplate it for yourself or become conscious of what was being pointed to. No statement can be absolutely true, because all words are dualistic and relative. Even the statement "nonduality is the absolute truth" is a relative, illusionary statement. What it's pointing to happens to not be. Do you understand what I'm saying here? What is the difference and sameness between "literal" and "imaginary?"

Understanding Impermanence - Why Reality Is Always Changing // Devilry occurs when you try to make the impermanent permanent. you can only be a devil for a short while, not forever, devilry is temporary, god is forever. God is a shapeshifter a devil is what god becomes when it limits itself to a particular limited shape or form. and the devil then tries to maintain it shape or form by using all sorts of manipulations. make a list of all the forms your try to freeze and identify the ones you are most attached to freezing (people, animals, things, ideas, stuff about your body, appearance, your life, finances, whatever it is) "i'm not willing to let go of the position of power, money, business (oil company that destroys the environment - can you let that go for the sake of the environment and then nooo I wont let that go!.... you are selfish as fuck, you are a devil impermanence happens because of oneness, nonduality (reality is one thing, that means that no part of reality can gain an absolute monopoly over any other part, because all parts are equally powerful, not in one moment in time, but across all of time, no part of God can be all powerful and dominate the other parts because all balances itself in the end. But every part of God is trying to do that and that is the very mechanism of devilry. Devilry is when one part of god overtake all other parts and create a monopoly. ( The term monopoly is often used to describe an entity that has total or near-total control of a market. / the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.( from the perspective of the part (from you) is very unfortunate that things are impermanent, because you call that death. You call that mortality and for you mortality seems very unfortunate. From the gods perspective you want the devil to be mortal, not immortal. At first glance impermanence will seem depressive and negative to you, because you are devil and you're selfish. But impermanence is a great gift. So we reform devils by showing them that impermanence is not something you fear, resist and manipulate your way to avoid but something that you embrace. Not only does impermanence liberate you in the end and reduce suffering it also hidgens appreciation, love, enjoyment and beauty of the formed world. Start to notice that the things that you love the most in your life, that are so good, are precisely good because they are temporary. It is their impermanence that makes you appreciate them so much. ice cream, caviar, favorite food, film ... if you would eat the same ice cream every day for a year you would find it disgusting you appreciate things much more when they are gone (parents, children) God wants to maximize the creative diversity of life. Train yourself to appreaciate the cycle of lose, this is the cycle of life, the death of one thing creates room for something else "Awareness of the transience of all things heightens appreciation of their beauty, and envokes a gentle sadness at their passing. "Wikipedia God is lost in translation. God is that which you cannot put into words. Impermanence means that you will: lose your family. fame, status, wealth, good furtune, health, youth and good looks sharp mental faculties, memories being the strongest or the best at whatever your skills and your mastery every relationship you have will die every religion will die corporation, organization, political party, social movement, cult will die trend will pass every language will die every scientific theory will die every spiritual teaching will die and become corrupt every book will be lost and forgotten every person will be forgotten every city and country will die every civilization will die, every culture, tradition, will die species will go extinct humanity will die and go extinct continents go out of existence cause they transform into something else every physical object will die .... Every part will be made whole, every duality will collapse, every devil will merge back with God. That's what oneness means, that's what impermanence means, because life and death is a duality. The cost of being born is death. cigarette companies still cling to their products even though it's killing people, that's devilry. Foolish people try to cling and freeze reality into certain forms. One of the counter intuitive moves is to embrace impermanence rather than manipulating your way out of it. The cost of being a form is that eventually you must change form. Death is really a changing in form, you are shifting your shape . Surrender everything. Immortality is not possible via attachment to form. The bad news is that everything good that you gain in life will be lost. And the good news is that everything bad that be false you, will not be permanent. Impermanence is gods safety vault, but you labeled it as the greatest evil, precisely because your mind is limited and cannot see the full perspective. The mistake that you made is that you identified with a human being but what you truly are is a infinite shape shifter. When a shape shifter clings to his identity the suffers because it's untrue to his identity, Your likes, dislikes change, every cell becomes a totally new one...but you kid yourself that you are always the same. Become an infinite shape shifter. "Shape-shifting requires the ability to transcend your attachments, in particular your ego attachments to identity and who you are. If You can get over your attachment to labeling yourself and your cherishing of your identity, you can be virtually anybody. You can slip in and out of different sheels, even different animal forms or deity forms" - Zeena Schrech Form is formlessness Your first awakening will be moving from form to formlessness, but it will still be a duality and you will not be fully awake. You no longer This duality collapses and you no longer think nirvana is some other place but that nirvana is this place and has been this place the whole time. You have to access truth like you are the first one to access it,. Directly, here and now. How to apply this wisdom: Deeply observe impermanence in practice every single day. What you're feeling on your body, notice how you are being scared now and an hour later you are no longer scared..... Train your mind that everything fades. Observe how you cling and how this clinging to permanence, trying to freeze reality, how this causes suffering for yourself. Observe yourself doing this observe how others cling and the suffering that that causes, observe how politicians cling to their power, how celebrities cling to their fame Gradually surrender more and more attachments. notice yourself trying to cling to a state, like you cling to a pleasure and you want to keep that pleasure as long as possible Try to enjoy impermanence, how it's good that you're not eating the ice cream and how it good when you're eating it You become more spontaneous and able to enjoy the positives and the negatives, the peaks and the quiet moments. For the next 7 days, wear a wrist band and every time you look at it, remember to pause and remember that you're doing this exercise, trying to see things impermanence. Every moment will become more precious and special

@Gnostic Christian In the Old Testament Yahwah (Christian God) demanded blood sacrifice fyi. Also, nonduality would claim that God and "Satan" are not opposites, but that Satan is just an aspect/expression of God and ultimately one with God. Because Christian Gnosticism will not accept this, that path will only take one so far. Any idea of god whose ultimate will can be thwarted by another is that of a small god.

I Believe The Most Authentic Statements Made Begin W/ "I Feel" Becuz We R Organic Beings In Mortal Bodies Made Aware By Sensations For me, the moment I give myself over to thoughts and ideas, I abandon my humility and suddenly become self identified with "something greater than myself." For me, every moment, every instant of awareness, every breath I take, presents me with a choice: "Do I represent myself ~ to my own self &/or to others ~ as a tender/vulnerable/mortal/anxious body? Or do I represent myself ~ to my own self &/or to others ~ as a monolithic/invulnerable/immortal/unassailable spirit?" Even as I write, in this instant, I can see and feel that choice looming before me.. I can presume to insist that this choice that I am engaged in, as I type, right now, is The Human Experience .. Or I can, in all tentativity, in all uncertainty and pure suspense, merely pose it, in tender supplication, as a most intimate cloud of sensations blowing through me .. Nevertheless, I DO wish and find, that there is a Rock Of Gibraltar in the duality: Mind/Head/Thought/Vision Vs Body/Heart/Feeling/Intuition. And that there is that Immortal Certainty in that duality. And yet, nevertheless, that very duality, is merely the finger pointing at Truth. Like a lighthouse warning of a rocky shore. It is but a guide post. Because the real truth is this fleeting instant of pure feeling and sensation, my fingers over the key board, the exuberance in my heart, the looming forth of release and vastness and possibility, freedom coursing forth with breath rhythmically, gratefully, falling and lifting in my diaphragm.. For me Advaita, Nonduality, Enlightenment, Truth, Love, Deity, Ideal Is Pure t ~ e ~ n ~ d ~ e ~ r ~ n ~ e ~ s ~ s Mine Yours Ours Life's Awareness Existence Universe Why, then, the duality? Why then, the dichotomy between Head and Heart, between thought and feeling, between mastery and submission, between, good and bad, between, yes and no? If all things are actually connected, why not merely express that infinite interconnectedness without separation? Just ever express that exquisite, flowing, endless and ongoing seamlessness? What IS that betweenness that separates? What IS that "illusion"? Is it REALLY an "illusion"? Or is it actually just another truth, in drag? Just another truth pretending to be other than truth? Just another truth (not an illusion at all, not at all) inviting us to play, in lila, with our own fears, in order to laugh at them, in order to show that, surprise!, the snake was just a rope all along? Or not? Maybe enlightenment is both the play of release from our mortal coil AND confinement to it, both freedom and restraint, both infinite bliss and endless terror. Both. What then? For me, the "what then?" is ? i n f i n i t e h e a r t ? w a r m t ~ e ~ n ~ d ~ e ~ r ~ n ~ e ~ s ~ s ? .. when I remember. Because I will forget. With every breath I take in, and breathe out, is both Advaita and Vaita, both dual and nondual. Both remembering, reintegrating, re-embracing, and forgetting, disintegrating, rejecting. Lightening and darkening. Both Avidyā and Vidya: The Dance Tandavam or Nadanta But, also, paralysis. Such is the uncertainty, anxiety, and therefore, bliss and beauty of our tenderness. IMO. In all humility. (Or, at least, some, nominal, tentative, humility..) And I believe, that for me, "enlightenment" is that profound humility that feels one's own heart, fully, entirely, in every moment, with all it's passion, both shock and serenity, both love and hate, both completely open and completely closed, both hot and cold, both warm and numb. And to feel one's heart fully, entirely, without reservation, is utter humility, complete meditative surrender to the whole of existence, both one's own and others'. And to cast one's glance, one's gaze, upon another, both in one's mind and in one's eyes, is to feel that other's heart beat, also, in the full spectrum of it's immense, vast, universal intensity and subtlety, pride and humiliation, guilt, shame and pride, love and bliss. "Enlightenment" cannot be described in words because it is not bound by anything that can be thought. Thought binds and creates boundaries. For me, "enlightenment" is a very subtle, yet intensely exuberant TEMPERATURE. It is a feeling of warmth. It is a thermal image that permeates awareness. We have very few words to describe the widest spectrum of warmth. But it is this very warmth that we communicate. It is the essence of communication itself. My experience of Leo Gura is that he brings the spectrum of his heart's warmth into language. My experience of Leo is the experience of his heart's warmth emanating with magnificent hues and pastels of wonder over a panoramic vastness. It is a physical presence recorded in pixels and vibrations that resonates into the widest reaches of the heart's imagination: thermally. Satori, for me, is that intense focus on both one's own, others' and another's heart beat. And "enlightenment" is full spectrum satori on the Universe's Heart Beat.

Thank you, Serotoninluv! "Because we feel understood," yeah!, oMarcos! I believe "enlightenment" is a feeling of boundless warm hearted tenderness, throughout. ? i n f i n i t e h e a r t ? w a r m t ~ e ~ n ~ d ~ e ~ r ~ n ~ e ~ s ~ s ? I believe we are both spirits living in mortal bodies, and bodies living in immortal spirits. Both. And I believe that the Feeling Of Tenderness Is Nonduality. I believe that Love is primarily a Feeling because we are primarily organic, cellular creatures. I believe that the highest level of consciousness is empathy for self and other, self as other, and other as self, both in relationship to others and in relationship to our one self. I believe that meditation is the key to enlightenment, and that both enlightenment and meditation are a state of profound humility, wherein one embraces the infinite vulnerability of living in a mortal body, made up, entirely of Pure Sentience Vulnerability Tenderness Mortality Feeling I believe that awareness is a Feeling

You are on a Nonduality forum, that follows the teachings of a Nonduality teacher. Watch his videos to get your answers.

Haha great question. That’s one of the paradoxes. How can one transcend an ego if there is no ego to transcend? I spent many years in PD developing a healthy sense of self. When I got into awakening work, someone told me “your ego is strong enough that it could be killed. You’ve got a shot”. I didn’t know if it was a compliment or an insult. Lol Yet I suppose there comes a point of diminishing returns. Trump’s ego is so big and strong, I can’t see how it’s gong down. There are some teachers, like Lisa Cairns, that teach both nonduality/awakening and personal development. It doesn’t necessarily need to be mutually exclusive.

Beautiful Notice how you then add in extra stuff (this is your creation) You added in the part about father, son and holy spirit. That is a contextualization. Where did this come from? Did someone tell you about things called "father, son and holy spirit" in your life? . . . Other people have an experience similar to yours and say "therefore it is machine elves". . . There is nothing wrong with this, that's what human minds do. Yet notice how is all imagination. You are free to create imagery of father in the trinity. Yet notice how wearing those glasses creates interpretation. Your HBWR trip was filtered through a "father the trinity" lens such that you are hallucinating father the trinity. If you were wearing a machine elf lens, you would interpret it machine elves. . . In terms of SD, this glimpses of Turquoise going through a blue/green lens. If this type of thing resonates with you, you may be interested in learning about nonduality of Christ Consciousness.

@Serotoninluv Very well said, I agree with what you said and I like that you do not speak from books, but bring arguments from your own experience.I was about to write a response to this topic, which in my native language , Romanian, sounds quite similar to what you wrote.Thank you for exempting me from the translation work, however it does not look the same in the end, considering the basic of the English language I know?. I do not know how many hours of meditation have been in total 20 years of my practice, but when I started to use psychedelics, it was as if until now I had circled around the Earth and all of a sudden I circled the universe, if we can say so as a degree of comparison. In my case, it didn't take 500 +hours of psychedelics, only about 150 + hours in total, but when the time came for 5 meo dmt everything was so ,quote you. “One can observe the deconstruction of dualities to nonduality and the reconstruction back to duality. Deconstruction to Nothing and re-construction to Everything. Such that Nothing = Everything. Not in theory. In embodiment. Knowing. Permanent embodied knowing. Eternal. . . .. And not just the peaks, the embodiment. When I was shown Mu and infinity, that realization never left. I can’t unsee it.” In my case, I continued the meditation and after 5 meo dmt, another two years, because I wanted to convince myself that this continuous nondual state can be obtained through meditation, which also happened. In fact, I have removed the last doubt that there is a state to come and go.So I realized that there is no difference between, I quote you: “ There was no difference between 5-meo and no 5-meo. No difference between meditation vs non-meditation. There was continuous singular nonduality. “ And in the end I went through this too, because of course something was still missing, cherry was missing from top of the cake ?, madness as the last obstacle of Maya. I quote you : “ I went into an insanity zone because my mind couldn’t handle it. And then the duality between dual vs nondual collapsed. This has been embodied and permanently accessible Now. . .” So one must have experienced both sides , meditation and psychedelics .And after you have convinced yourself by both methods that what remains is identical, permanent and constant you are free to form an opinion which in its turn will be in the field of the relative as well. But when you are living from there effortlessly all the time and have permanent non-dual awareness in daily life which you don't have to do anything to maintain, then you can call it true liberation.From here on any explanation, any ancient spiritual books, as well as your entire spiritual practice loses its meaning .I will end with your quote: “ All constructs are relative, including the one I describe. And in the absolute, all the deep deepness I describe is no deeper than a butterfly pollinating a flower. Not in theory, in knowing that comes prior to theory. ? ? “. Thank you.?

@Homo Lucens Being sort of argumentative for fun and the sake of the convo....I’d offer that I have directly ‘experienced’ (been / and am) consciousness during sleep, without anything at all serving as something to be conscious of , and that his reference to consciousness basically equating to reflection, or the knowing of knowledge, specifically involving the brain - that consciousness requires something to be conscious of - is missing a deeper dive into the fundamental self, and the heart of nonduality. It strikes me as there’s a possibility there is ‘scientist’ bias at play.

I think he died. Basically I asked this question here because I wonder how he said such a thing but the discussion about nonduality here are more that it is not determined and god creates it every moment and the future is not certain yet

This is what I’m pointing at. You have created a construct that has practical purpose. I’m not denying that. Your construct involves profound mastery attained through discipline and consistent practice. What I’m pointing at is the use of this relative construct as absolute. When you write “IS”, you are creating a relative and presenting it as an absolute. It’s like saying “a IS b” without realizing that “a” is also not “b”. When you create a construct of “embodiment” there is automatically “non-embodiment” to contrast embodiment with. There are many such dualistic opposites in your writings: embodiment vs. non-embodiment, psychedelic vs non-psychedelic, temporary vs. permanent, awakening vs non-awakening. All of these constructs collapse into Nothing/Everything. The human mind loves to construct, yet becomes attached to such constructs. I doubt you would be able to discard all of the constructs you have written about as if they were an old newspaper. This would be liberation. To be liberated from any construct, including spiritual constructs like embodiment, insights, meditative states, enlightenment etc. . . What you write about has relative value. Training to become an Olympic gold medalist in the decathlon also has relative value. Yet in the absolute, it has no more relevance or more ISness than bird chirps. Regarding psychedelics. . . one thing psychedelics (especially 5-meo) do is dissolve dualities. One can observe the deconstruction of dualities to nonduality and the reconstruction back to duality. Deconstruction to Nothing and re-construction to Everything. Such that Nothing = Everything. Not in theory. In embodiment. Knowing. Permanent embodied knowing. Eternal. . . . I meditated over 20,000 hours without any drugs. Then I tried 5-meo and it blew away all the meditation. It’s not even close. And not just the peaks, the embodiment. When I was shown Mu and infinity, that realization never left. I can’t unsee it. I also did 24 consecutive days of 5-Meo in which a consistent nondual consciousness manifested. There was no difference between 5-meo and no 5-meo. No difference between meditation vs non-meditation. There was continuous singular nonduality. When duality finally reappeared, the contrast between nondual and dual was striking. So striking that I went into an insanity zone because my mind couldn’t handle it. And then the duality between dual vs nondual collapsed. This has been embodied and permanently accessible Now. . . Perhaps the previous 20,000 hours of meditation and 500+ hours of psychedelics provided structural support to embody the realization. I don’t know what would have happened without that previous experience. And perhaps this description doesn’t qualify as deep insight, permanent, embodiment or enlightenment within your construct. Which is fine. All constructs are relative, including the one I describe. And in the absolute, all the deep deepness I describe is no deeper than a butterfly pollinating a flower. Not in theory, in knowing that comes prior to theory. ? ?

@Raptorsin7 Enlightened/mystical experiences are difficult to predict or create there are so many variables. Even people that have dedicated their entire lives to teaching awakening cannot willfully transmit it to another. Consider people that spend years in therapy. The counselor may know the person’s block, yet is often unable to stimulate that in the patient, such that the patient has an “Ah ha!” realization and “gets it”. In a way, it’s like getting struck by lightening. It’s rare, yet we can increase our chances. We could climb to the top of a hill during a thunderstorm and hold up a metal rod to the sky. If that person was wearing a rubber suit, the odds would go down. Similarly, there are various methods to help induce getting struck by spiritual realization lightening. If someone is meditating drunk, I would say the chances go down. If someone was obsessed with getting revenge on someone, the odds go down. If someone is ocd worrying about failing a chemistry exam, the odds go down. I knew a recovering alcoholic who told me about his last drink. He took his seven year old son out boating to go fishing. He drank for hours and got sloppy drunk. His son fell out of the boat and was struggling to get back in. The drunken father was yelling and slipping as he sorta tried to get his son back in the boat. Then he had a moment of clarity. He said it was like an out of body experience in which he clearly saw himself and his son. He saw the fear and struggle in his son. Not just fear of drowning, also the fear the son had of the drunken father. He observed himself in relation to his son. No rationalized bullshit, justifications, defenses, avoidances etc. He saw clearly for a moment and it stuck. He said he snapped back into him and no longer felt drunk and was now on a new path. That was his last drink. I met him 20 years after that incident and he said he still remembers it like it was yesterday. Timeless and transcendent. His relationship with his son was transformed and he started to help other alcoholics to recover. . . . This is a rare event, yet it happens. How and why does it happen? We don’t know. Was it divine intervention? Or perhaps trillions of inputs that came together at that one moment to create a “big bag” awakening. . . . The closet we have at his point to stimulate such awakenings is psychedelics. They greatly increase the chance, yet the odds are still relatively low on a single trip. There are so many factors. Yet as we learn more about the mechanism of psychedelics that number will increase. @SoonHei Great video. I haven’t come across Paul. He expresses nonduality well. Thanks ?

Gotcha ? You seem to suggest an external god as you say “developing itself”. What is “itself”? As well, you say god is magical “beyond just IS”. I’m not sure if you are creating dualistic categories or trying to describe facets of One diamond. I think your questions have been getting deeper and more advanced over the past month or so. As you go deeper into nonduality and into the collapse of dual/nondual, intellectual concepts won’t be center-stage anymore. It will provide structural support. Nonverbal things like intuition, empathy, beingness, essence, presence, knowing, Now etc will become more impactful.

So great to have this said. There is a growing number of religious folks on this forum. I was a lifelong Atheist (40 years). The moment I learned of Nonduality I gave it up of a belief of truth. You have to unlearn everything. Hardcoded beliefs only get in the way.

If a ten year old, in relative terms of consciousness, experienced an alien, that experience has the potential to be terrifying, and life altering, and bring about a lot of suffering and fear - sending them down the emotional scale. Consider the same ten year old, now fifty, but having assimilated & actualized maslow’s pyramid, spiral dynamics, self realization, the emotional scale, collective & cosmic consciousness, and the actuality of nonduality - now knowing the illusory nature of fear, self doubt, and the world, and the actuality of love - seeing an alien. Now consider the alien which makes it from pretty f’ing far away, to earth, knows all of this already, and much more, and likely did not actually traverse space & time to ‘make the journey’ “here”. Consider the vibrational match at play, in terms of relative consciousness, as access. Then imagine, you are that fifty year old, and pretty much anyone you tell of your encounters with aliens, is closer to the ‘ten year old consciousness’, than the ‘fifty year old consciousness’. Nonduality is not two, not a question & answer, and so it is prior to concerns of ‘whys’ (nonduality is the “why”). So the alien, and the ‘fifty year old consciousness’, would already be on the same ‘nondual page’; One, same Self. No intent to harm, no fear of being harmed. Concerns are not prior, one who has not inspected their own a priori’s, is nondual, but in not yet knowing this, is reacting, living from fear & concerns, harming, in defense of “their separate self”. The ignore-ance of self, creates tendencies & intention of these things, and is already violence. An alien wanting to visit this, is like an ant wanting to attend a stomping party. They’d probably just pass on it. In appearance there will always be ‘ten year old’, and ‘fifty year old’ consciousness, and therefore there will always be consciousness which appears to consciousness as, “alien”. The consciousness of the population raising, technology, humanity & compassion, understanding - along with it, and we’ll eventually go somewhere far, and when we arrive, we will see that we, relatively, are the aliens.

No one is saying that this is your imagination or choice of perception. Before you can treat a wound you must acknowledge that it's there. Then you treat it in whatever way is necessary based on the severity of it, but the actual healing happens on its own. Keep in mind the analogy that Leo used in his most recent video. Enlightenment is not a single mountain that you can climb, it's a whole fucking mountain range. You've been going around comparing your progress with your wife's and others here based on the high mountain you're sitting on the peak of, not realizing that others have explored different parts of the mountain range that you were ignoring as unimportant the whole time. This is not the time to throw nonduality out the window, but it is time to scan the horizon and finally come down from the peak of that single mountain you've mastered and explore the rest of the range.