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Leo Nordin replied to Leo Nordin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Thestarguitarist14 yes but I have already awakened, if im not fucking myself up with delusion haha. No but really. I am talking about living in a van, showering at gyms and using part time work money/money from my country for food. All my basic needs will be taken care of. Call it homeless, or a nomad or a spiritual retreat. I have 1,5 more years untill last year I can reapply for school for free if homelessness didn't go well. I will last a year with my current savings at most. At the age of 18 I get money from the government. Draw back is that all my savings may be lost and I may have to take a loan before I finish school if I come back and take that rout. Yeah I am going to drop out. Will just secure some kinds of income before hand. -
Leo Nordin replied to Leo Nordin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Most homeless haven't awakened... -
Not more than anyone else, I've always been a good student and had liked it to some extent more than most. Living half a life is just not worth it, not when you know what a full fledged life looks like, that's why I don't want to limit myself for much longer. I only do what's needed. Yes that's it? out of some reason people always question my texts, even though I wrote I HAVE AWAKENED. Hahaha Then it's obvious that I'm not being delusional?♂️ but yeah I'm young you all can question me. I also am using ego now, otherwise I wouldn't be asking for advice about going homeless lol, ego is good for survival, remember that.
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It never felt difficult to me... Even in the absolute earliest stages of self improvement. I quess basef on time and all the internal changes to your beliefs about the world changing so much makes it an unbelievably difficult task for most people. They have too much ego and ignorance etc. It is nothing compared to the difficulty of school. Because school is the largest suffering creating machine in the world. School equals = lifetime suffering for the majority of people, because it creates ego constantly and if you unwire the ego they will force you back. For me there is no difficulty because I'm doing it on my own terms. I will probably quit school to become somewhat homeless soon. Keeping up ego abd suffering to stay in the system is somewhat difficult now when I've awakened.
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I don't have any special problem with school. It just hinders me from being myself. It's quite sad that I consciously restrain myself from ecstasy all the time in school. One or two hours a day isn't enough. I am probably ready for what you call "hardcore" practice where I live unreasonably joyfull all the time. I awakened not long ago. Please give me perspectives from the awakened mind.
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I realized there is no I only characters that it’s all just completely imaginary completely intentionally set up because I am god only through being no one can you be everyone , I realized that it’s completely done out of love too . I still haven’t had awakenings into many facets tho I’m not saying I’m awakened fully just that the satoris I’ve had are true and I’ve confirmed it many times so I don’t have any doubts that I’m god
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Javfly33 replied to Mvrs's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are "awakened" uhm? -
Did anyone else awaken years before finding Leo ? I feel like it would have been a much more doubtful and different path if I had heard of awakening before I had awakened .
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Be careful, what you want to do is live blissfully all the time. If you don't have actual experience coaching then it's a fantasy that your mind has created. This you certainly know if you're even close to being unitive. If you are in a ecstatic state while coaching then its good. If you have really awakened then you probably know what your talking about. Still I have 50% of my school in daycare/school and coaching might be difficult intuively. As quick as you start thinking too much you can't be unitive anymore especially if you are doing your work "proffessionaly", then you can't laugh when you shouldn't laugh etc. The burden from that is immense, holding yourself back from laughing and ecstasy/being yourself all the time. Be careful?
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Meditation? What are effective techniques for my particular case? @LfcCharlie4 @Nahm So these are my thoughts: *Human beings need purpose and crave creative expression. Being only awakened and/or enlightened won’t solve a lack of satisfaction or fulfilment. Having a Life Purpose can make you achieve Self-Transcendence by moving up the Pyramid to Self-Actualization, then Self-Transcendence. Or move up to Stage Yellow from Orange or Green for example. From where you can have deeper awakening. It makes it easier to be awakened or enlightened as lower level needs have been handled. So it is best to have my Life Purpose handled before shooting for enlightenment as I have a lot of karma to exhaust/onions to peel (e.g. having a career, financial stability, passion for living, etc). Once my desires for those are exhausted, I can then move on to enlightenment.* Would this be accurate? We should be exhausting our desires before shooting for enlightenment as it’s very difficult, right? As if we are peeling onions? On a Spiral Dynamics forum, it mentioned that if you are a teenager, don’t even think about Tier 2 consciousness (Yellow, Turquoise, Coral, etc) as the huge lack of life experience would make it near impossible/very unlikely if you are the average person. Is this true? Would it be a good strategy for me to work on my Life Purpose for the next 10-15 years while still meditating everyday, then when I’m 25-30 I can pursue enlightenment as I’ve exhausted my desire for materialism and success? I know that these things won’t truly make me happy, but my ego still wants materialistic success. Could I just let go of this desire? Or would it be better for me to exhaust this desire, and from direct experience see that “Oh, this doesn’t really make me happy”, and then pursue enlightenment instead of just believing that it won’t make me happy? I want to work out a good strategy so I’m not second guessing myself here, what’s your guy’s suggestion?
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Hey Everyone, I couldn't find a better place to put this so I decided to throw this out here. I just wanted to give my honest thoughts and feelings as to my journey of awakening through college, as well as some struggles in the hope of finding some like minds who could possibly help me out and maybe share their stories too. I'm in my second year of college now and I'm getting deep into the awakening process, ever since I got the time to do spirituality (because of you know what) I've really pursued it. The problem is that my transition back into college has been difficult, I'm finding it way harder to make friends and I'm beginning to feel even more isolated than I did when we first went into quarantine. Nonetheless, I kept pursuing spiritual awakening, and I know that Leo says that this is the path of the awakened minds, it is a lonely one, but I also feel like it's important for me to get some feedback on this. So what do you guys think, is it possible for me to find like minds in college? I really do believe that there are other's pursuing a very similar path that I'm on and it would help if I got some guidance from them. I remember I had a mentor early on but he left, so I've been on my own for a while now. Has anyone had a similar experience where they've gone deep down the rabbit hole but you feel like you're missing the world outside? It makes it even more difficult that colleges are purpose built to prepare you for That's just where I'm at, any thoughts would be appreciated!
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Why do you consider only a few people - if any at all - "awakened" and the rest as "not awakened" when awakening is clearly not a binary thing? Why do you keep saying things like "You/they haven't experienced even 1% of (infinite) consciousness" when it is by definition impossible to ever grasp one percent of infinity? What is the point of trying to reach the bottom of something which is infinite and therefore has no bottom?
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1. Do you think you will ever live as a "fully awakened self"? How far do you think you can advance spiritually in the future? 2. Do you think we will ever have a fully conscious/developed society? If not, how advanced do you think society could possibly be in the future? 3. Could you see your channel potentially helping lead to a massively awakened society and pushing real spirituality into the mainstream? 4. Do you think a conscious society could possibly exist with diverse cultures and religions also existing simultaneously? 5. Have you tried nofap/semen retention? If not, what are your thoughts on it? 6. What was the lowest point in your life? The highest? 7. Do your family and friends live a similar life to you? 8. Who is the most awakened individual you have ever encountered in your life? 9. What do you do every day? 10. How has your health been? Any improvements since your last update on it? 11. Do you believe in synchronicity/numerology and other obscure fields discussed by some spiritual communities? 12. What is your specific life purpose and plan for the rest of your life?
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LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Carl-Richard Good point. @Preety_India Yep, everyone has a different “ideal” of their dream life and that’s okay. For me, I love running businesses, I don’t need them to be happy, but I wake up everyday excited to work. (Only if it helps people, I couldn’t work in certain industries ofc) @aurum I actually agree with you, and think it goes far deeper than SD stages, and also involves things like personality & the type of person you are. Learning the Enneagram helped me understand & appreciate so many different perspectives & what makes different people “tick.” For example, Ramana Maharishi & Eckhart Tolle are Enneagram 9s- very peaceful, chill guys usually, (typical stoner) very naturally meditative is this type. But compare their style to say Nisgardatta who was bossy & authoritative because he was a type 8. So, in relation to your points, certain people, will be much happier with less (5s for example tend to be minimalists naturally) and more than happy with a “simpler” life, 7s (I’m a 7, Russell Brand is an extreme 7 lol) are much more “go, go, go” the active type who love to be doing things, so in your community scenario, the guys doing the busy work & running round with a coffee, whereas the 9s would be running the meditation & therapy sessions lol. But, I think you raised great points, and that’s where Green can really help balance Orange and realise there’s more to life than material pleasures- monetary, sexual, objects & more to life than the pursuit of individuality, a switch to a more collective approach helps people grow on a number of levels. I also think it helps wealthy people become more conscious & use their money more consciously, instead of hoarding. I mean let’s be real, nobody needs more than like $10M really once you have a few nice houses & cars etc, To us, the guys with 15 cars & 3 yachts & 7 mansions seem silly, but they are simply trying to fill a void with “stuff.” Now, dont get me wrong, we can all enjoy materiality & “Orange” things, and I’m certainly not demonising it, but it’s never going to make us happy, alone, kt can be fun, bring joy etc sure. And, yes My integrate Orange was aimed a lot more at younger “spiritual” people who can’t even hold down a job etc, your example I also know of, and I believe that comes from a more conscious choice, rather than having no money because they don’t have the skills to make money. To me, money = freedom, and the lower your living costs are, the less money you need for that freedom. I personally am in a wealth creation phase, and have plans to build wealth over the next few decades, but as I mentioned in another post, the idea is to always be investing in things I believe in & to always be giving back, I see no value in hoarding millions, but instead want to use money consciously. I can definitely see the value in giving up use of money, living on very little for those who want the simple / hermit / monk style of life, I am almost certain it’s not for me, but I am defo not shitting on anyone who wants to live that way, I don’t think there’s any “right” way for a “spiritual” being to live, but agree they would focus on more than just their individual needs. 2 examples of deeply awakened beings living “western” & “family” lives are Rupert Spira & Francis Lucille, so I think it can work either way for Green+ beings. (Id class these 2 as Turquoise) Wow, I rambled, sorry! -
Zigzag Idiot replied to Ivan Dimi's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's how I usually check "I am enlightened AMA" threads, purely based on compassion. Doesn't mean you agree with everyone, it means you are You. Both this expression and the question it was aimed at remind me of - Conscience. My own experience of what Conscience is and how this experience has changed as I have gotten older. To say an increase in conscience means also an increase in Being feels accurate to me. It also feels like the more shadow is removed from my consciousness/subconsciousness, the clearer I can hear the small, still voice, as the saying goes. But primarily Conscience reaches me through feeling. The more shadow work done, the cleaner the emotional center is, which results in increased accurate intuition. Clairvoyance is experienced in the beginning only as brief flashes. At most, the beginning is all I've reached and a shaky one at best. So I'm not implying any kind of great one time sweeping realization or attaining superpowers. ? To get rid of guilt is primary. Implanting in humanity the notion of inherent guilt is/was a horrible joke/spell/curse/whatever. I'm not implying psychopathy as a way of life but rather than guilt- remorse- is the correct feeling when I/we have caused harm or violated Conscience. You have awakened Conscience when you are you and not the reaction from the stern inner voice of the Superego telling us how naughty we've been. The Superego by its nature keeps guilt within the framework of our experience. This highlights the need for individuation which requires integration of our inner aspects which are contradictory or seemingly so. Morality changes from culture to culture and also over time through history. Awakened Conscience has universal unchanging empathy and compassion and is not as changeable as morals yet has a definite tone of responsibility. People who speak completely different languages can understand each other with the 'language of the smile'. I try to express from my being rather than my personality but ironically my inspired expressions can have the tone arrogance or of telling everyone what's what. So I add this little disclaimer of having unaware unconscious, blatant arrogance and hope rather that the reader hears me with their being rather than their mind as well as overlooking my run on sentences and inevitable typos. -
_Archangel_ replied to Ivan Dimi's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
a japanese warrior lived in different times, where war was often the only way in wich political drama wold end. Militar competance was higly regarded because the neighbours tribe or countries could attack you at any moment. No diplomacy like now. it was a matter of suvive or being killed. This means that a Warrior, even if enlightened, would honor his duty for the sake of future stability. So war and fight is not hinerently bad. It from the point of view. in 2020, 1st w. countries are at a level of development in wich they can afford to dispise war because we have ingeneered new ways with wich we can solve conflicts. By today's western standards anyway, it is true that an awakened one is much less likely to be a soldier, bank robber, gang member, gambler etc, even tough it doesen't mean they don't have to survive. There is a big difference between, for example, eating and punching a granny, even if they are both selfish actions. -
erik8lrl replied to Mosess's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mosess This is normal, your thought pattern will become more abstract and unified the more awakened you are, it will make it difficult to use language because language is always creating dualities. Instead of trying to communicate everything in your head, when you talk, simply speak without thinking. Talk with your instinct and only speak what you feel like. Don't worry about how much the other person can understand if they can't simply stop talking. -
latch replied to latch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In a sense, I can though I dunno if I felt it at the moment you sent it but I do appreciate it. I would say my experience is most of the time peppered with a kind of experiential tinnitus(and my tinnitus blares) like a noise of every kind in all densities I receive in. If this character I call latch is a complex lens viewing portions of the All then his perception is clouded by a distortion paradigm which is difficult to 'see' through for all the emotions, bias, unrecalled truth, etc. The cliche of being a spiritual being having a physical experience is apt if not overused. See what my mother wrote about me: https://imgur.com/a/TWTfweM My game of life is a puzzle and I like puzzles but cripe I seemed to have chosen the Hard setting. Some of the pieces are missing and others are bent and some are covered with mucus like my family tree has few branches but some are broken, some are on the ground and some are on fire! One can see some examples of my puzzle pieces in my synchronicities thread. There are a bunch of things I didn't mention- I was afraid of looking like I was bragging and had all my shit together so follow me! I been walking around a brier patch with night vision binoculars taped to my head sure I can see a ways and even it the dark if the batteries are charged but the next step is not guaranteed to not hurt.. nor the next one.. ad infinitum.. Oh and I think I just dropped the battery too! Fricken funderful! And as far a "Love and Light" goes, I was shocked with recognition when I saw it in the Law of One as one of my other names has the initials LL and my TF also coincidentally has the moniker initials LL or ll and ll, so you can imagine the effect it has on me and this person every time we see it's 11:11 twice a day- are the two dots separating us 'time and space' which are both illusions? I can't even say truly I would go around saying I'm awakened because I haven't studied much in that vein but I'm pretty sure I've seen the Source wall and assume I didn't pass it as I currently believe I'm this thing typing out this sentence which is indicative of the possibility that I made it back. The closest thing I've seen about me is described in the book Ancient Flower of Life Vol 2 in the third paragraph of page 318: FOL Vol2 Read the page prior for context and other experiences involving pushing past the half step out of the lower three chakras. It is assumed(by me) that everything is a clue that ties all of this together and I'm building a picture. The latch lens doesn't see things like normal folk.. I think there is a crack in it.. a butt crack Sorry, my sense of humour is weird.. and this is all part of the trip. -
I have had a similar experience to you. Been in unitive for some time. 19 years old almost 20. Awakened about 8 months ago. Since then I've had many more awakenings. I felt like traditional school didn't resonate with me as well. Not because I was too lazy for it or something but because I felt like I was wasting my time and I wasn't growing from it the same way I was from consciousness work. I actually felt from the start like I didn't quite fit in traditional school but I did a year of college simply because I had no other back up plan and I also wanted to see what it was like first. So I decided to take a semester off and see where my awakening experiences lead me. I'm actually a few months into that semester and have discovered that what I really want to do is do something in the realm of life coaching 1 on 1 or something like that. The awesome thing about unitive stage is you can see all the stages bellow with love and compassion which is a great space for people to feel like they can grow with you in a coaching relationship environment. Thats what I found I enjoy and am passionate about, so I'm currently working on a certification for life coaching in an online class as a start. My advice is be brave, follow your heart but also have a solid plan behind it. If college is your only plan right now and you don't like it, do whatever you need to to figure out what you do like and then go all out with it.
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Inliytened1 replied to josh jones's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think you are still missing the point. You seem to be a little too caught up in the idea of what you imagine Leo to be. Or an awakened being to be. Its like someone took a painting of your guru and shattered it across the floor. I'm sorry to be the one to "enlighten" you - but all gurus are imagined by you. -
Fran11 replied to josh jones's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well it's different for everyone The Universe may wanna express its smartass side trough some awakened beings, why not? -
Inliytened1 replied to josh jones's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@josh jones don't aspire to be like him - seek Truth for yourself. You are your own authority. Be careful not to put too much weight in your gurus. Or to categorize an "awakened being" as being a particular way. All is relative. -
josh jones replied to josh jones's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've just been one here a little while, I've noticed how.he responds, what he tends to respond to, and how often he is on here, and i do not see an awakened person, let alone someone I'd want to listen to or aspire to be like. His awakenings do sound awful familiar though, almost as though I'd read them almost word for word in a dozen or so books about spirituality. -
Member replied to Mvrs's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
According to Wikipedia: "Enlightenment (spiritual), insight or awakening to the true nature of reality" "The English term enlightenment is the western translation of the abstract noun bodhi, the knowledge or wisdom, or awakened intellect, of a Buddha." Enlightenment requires time? From my understanding, enlightenment does not depend on anything because you become it by understanding your true nature = reality itself. You cannot separate the form from being, because being without any form would make no sense. -
Hello everyone, I am brand new here. I have no idea if this topic falls under this category or the "Relationships" one. If I posted wrong, I apologize. I'm just going to lay it all out step by step in words to get to the point and hopefully make sense. I'm not looking for "the right answer", I guess I'm just trying to word this out to myself and see if anyone has had any similar experiences and maybe we can discuss this. 2020 has been a weird year for everyone but it's been deep and emotional for me. I won't hide the fact that I am afraid to talk about this. I've read a bunch of Leo's threads and they make sense to me. When you read this you'll probably realize I haven't awakened yet. Growing up I was on my own. Not in a bad, depressing way. I was conscious that I was different from others and was okay with that. My parents raised me Catholic but I ditched the religion at a young age. The teachings of religion made me see various entities of the universe and I believed I felt the flow of energy through meditation. I always felt a strong connexion with nature, we lived in the woods and I would play outside bare feet so I wouldn't miss any sensation. Surprisingly for a kid, every sound, every smell, the tiniest bit of detail of how nature wakes up and falls asleep was important to me. I believed in the concept that my body and soul were aligned. I believed the universe lends us the energy to "exist" only for us to give it back when the time comes. At the age of 14 I severed that connexion. There was no traumatic event, we just moved to another town and I didn't realize what I did. One day I noticed my inner soul was feeling lost and confused but I never addressed it. I've been experiencing blockage in sacral and root chakra. Anyway. My life in solitude gave me a small circle of friends which was enough. To this day it is difficult for me to be intimate and form a connexion with "that" someone special and thus being in a relationship. Long story short, I met this dude last summer. Well "officially" met. We've known each other for 10 years, just never spoken to each other. At some point, we had the same circle of friends, we lived on the same street, he was a regular customer at a video game store, etc. He pursued me, we started dating very briefly. Even after 10 years, our timing was completely off. He wasn't ready. That's not the point. No connexion or spiritual links are the same. No soulmates crap. With him it was very similar connexion. We have so much in common it was scary at the time. I saw quickly that there was no point even though our feelings were there and completely cut ties with him. When I made the decision, something weird happened. I felt a huge "stabbing" sensation on my stomach, under the belly button. The pain spread to my legs. I've had cramps before but nothing like this! The "stab" happened a few times throughout the evening, to the point where I even threw up. A lot of theories: - I ate something bad and it's an odd coincidence - Stress - Allergies (?) - Someone, or something, was trying to communicate - I'm a woman, maybe I was about to hit my period The universe is neutral. It doesn't decide for us. I do believe it can try to communicate. Could this be it? Who knows. Again, not trying to find "the answer", or the obvious thing that happened. Let's talk about similar experiences