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  1. Good afternoon all First of all I'm a huge fan of Actualized and it has absolutely transformed my entire life over the past year or two. I love you Leo, you are my hero and I hope one day to shake you by the hand, hug you and thank you for everything you've put together here. Despite having watched most Actualized content, this is the first time I've ever instinctively disagreed with something Leo has said. This is more a direct response to only a few words said in the stage green video and I'm hoping Leo himself will reply offering me an explanation, but I'm open to comments from anyone. So I've just watched the stage green video and I'm going to watch yellow this evening. As someone who is potentially 50% green, 30% yellow, and 20% orange with some mixed blue and red in there, I've been swimming in green for several years now and feel like I understand it quite well, including its limitations and extremes. However there was a moment towards the end of Leo's video where he says "Stop caring about social issues so much" "They're important, but they're also not important at all" "Society is progressing at the rate that it needs to be progressing at, society is perfect for this exact moment of time" I fully understand the limitations of green and the need to think about problems systemically rather than preaching and feeling that "love and compassion" will solve all our problems. However these statements by Leo shocked me as they do not make logical sense at all. Yes society will naturally progress and evolve as time goes on, yes politics is often a system of trial and error, yes the economy is like an organism with its own evolution and growth, but none of that means we as individuals should not be concerned and actively taking part in social evolution? ALL past social revolutions and large scale psychological transformation was instigated and accelerated by people who had began to progress to a more developed stage and used their understanding to educate others. I have found myself recently getting involved with vegan/animal activism, I wont go into too much detail about this, but I take part in groups who go out into the public and educate people about the animal agriculture industry and the horrors that are inflicted upon billions of innocent sentient beings across the globe. We advocate for polite and rational dialogue and our conversations are usually very productive, seeing many people make the connection between the food they buy and the animals they claim to love. We present facts, statistics, show slaughterhouse footage and politely encourage them to accept the truth which is that it is not necessary for our health or survival to consume animal products. If they take what we are saying seriously, we present them with more information and they often make the change to a vegan diet, if not then we thank them for their time and they go about their day. We do this because we understand that systemically, the root cause of animal abuse and slaughter is the consumer. It's supply and demand; the consumer makes the choice to buy animal products and hands over their money to the corporations, keeping them in business and the killing continues. We do not condemn or demonize the consumers, the slaughterhouse workers or food corporations for their actions, they are just part of a system, but a system which is founded upon pain, suffering and unnecessary mass slaughter and the root of that system the consumer and their financial support. What I'm trying to say is that how on earth does social evolution occur if we as individuals not tackle the systemic issues ourselves? If no one spoke out for black people during times when white people enslaved them then how would we have ever stopped owning other humans? If no one had spoken out against smoking when its damaging effects were discovered then millions more people would be dying? If Gandhi had never spoken out against oppression and violence then India would never have evolved as its own independent nation and began to overcome their caste system. If no one "cared" about social issues we would have never evolved out of stage red! Even Sadhguru, Mooji, Rupert Spira and Eckhart Tolle all clearly care deeply about social issues and have devoted their entire lives to educating green/yellow psychology. A common theme is compassion for all regardless of their species, race or character. Sadhguru himself (who is clearly deeply turquoise) owns like a dozen high-consciousness businesses, do you think he would have established them and still be creating traditional yoga schools around the world if he just thought "Oh society is progressing at the rate it should be, it's perfect as it is!" and sat back and did nothing? I understand that these issues are clearly the Lesser Jihad and our priority should be inner growth, but I don't see why the two must be exclusive? If anything Leo himself has clearly stated that a high consciousness life purpose will only contribute to inner growth (the greater jihad). What's even more confusing is that Leo then goes on to say about how people have different levels of education, and implies that Green needs to stop demonizing other stages in order to relate to them and educate them. Which surely is "Caring about social issues"? He then even says that Yellow brings about an understanding of evil and you cannot fight evil with evil, only with "love and compassion" which is the thing he said minutes before as being unable to solve all our problems. To me it seems like evil/selfishness is the only real problem in the world and therefore love and compassion in some form or another IS the only thing that can solve all problems? Albeit in a systemic manner. I can only assume that many of the things Leo said here were badly phrased and I hope he can clarify that for me, it's unlike him to be so contradictory. Hope you're reading Leo and please let me know your thoughts. Much love Alexandar
  2. A terrorists/nazis/rapists can transform before their death. Many among us may not have enough energy for any transformation, we continuously drain our energy in doing unnecessary things, thinking unnecessarily. Jesus said,"“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword." ◄ Matthew 10:34 ► Don't think that if you are peaceful, you are a sage. An almost dead person is peaceful, but that is not worth anything; then even war is better because in war you are alive and vital. A totally different dimension of peace exists when you are vital, alive, but centered in your being, you are awakened. When you know that you are not going to hell, and even if you are thrown in hell, even if you are crucified, it will not disturb your peace and blissfulness.
  3. I'm going to start being a whole lot more grateful for just how much I've accomplished on this path. I am amazing. I have literally overcome the need for food, something few human beings on Earth have done. I am fit and healthy, and am intending to start meditating 12 hours daily (because I don't need sleep and I want to see myself as God) which is like superhuman. Yet I sit down and don't give myself praise when I am doing the best I can to find endless happiness. My goal too, is basically the hardest thing for a human to realise. I deserve more love, not less. I just feel with the meditation, so much love will flow through me that all if this will not be in doubt. Everything is perfect, and so am I, and all of humanity. We are already those Gods we wish to transform into. There is no transformation to do, no heaven to ascend into either, heaven is already on Earth, and in our hearts. It all depends in what we focus on; love or separation?
  4. I think you might be overemphasizing ideology. You seem to be talking about what you believe and what you value, instead ask yourself what you actually do. Are you yourself very disciplined and traditional? Are you competing and taking part in the free market? Are you full of love and peace? There is a difference between what you believe and what you actually are. Spiral Dynamics is a model for consciousness development, not mere ideology and belief. This development is actually happening unconsciously in most people. They are not aware of the fact that they are going through a transformation of consciousness, of their actual subjective reality. Most people know something is changing in them, but they do not really reflect deeply upon it. The reason why each stage in spiral dynamics has it's own flaws is precisely because in each new stage one has to learn once more where the limits of that particular stage are. For example, once you are out of blue, you clearly know why blue is so limited, that reaction is what is stage orange. Because you are progressing through these stages unconsciously, you are not even aware that orange exists, or that you are at a new stage. You simply evolve and demonize what you left behind, because you clearly can see where the limits are. The spiral dynamics model simply describes how these reactions in general develop. It's not that spiral dynamics is a model for the consciousness development of all human beings, it is a model for the general consciousness development of humans. It's more of an average of how things tend to go, not an absolute pathway every human takes. Additionally, because it is an average, it might not even the case that most people go through the stages as the spiral dynamics model shows. Like if you create an average face out of every face on the planet, you will have the perfect average, but that does not mean that most people look like that average face. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3cd3902a15d02b68538bced988da2f53-c Most people don't look like that, but it's still the average. Stage yellow for example is defined as a stage when a human being becomes conscious of the fact that he went through stages in life, that is why in stage yellow you understand the fact that you went through the spiral. You are conscious of the fact that you changed your perspective multiple times, and more importantly how helpless you actually were. You were never in control of your consciousness, and now that you are aware of that fact, you can actually take control of your perspective. What is interesting of course is how the spiral dynamics model itself can influence the development of the human consciousness. The empirical data used for spiral dynamics was data used before the spiral dynamics model existed, so we have no clear data on how the development is influenced by it (at least I'm not aware of any data regarding that). It might be that if spiral dynamics becomes part of mainstream ideology, the way people progress through the spiral might change dramatically as well. Who knows, it's like the collective is evolving self-awareness. And just like with the individual, a bit of yellow can already make a dramatic difference. So it is possible that as a certain critical mass of yellow is reached, it might heave the entire civilization into yellow much more rapidly than we would have assumed.
  5. In this essay, I will try my best to use the language of logic to indicate the significance of the illogical for those who are too attached to logic, yet I will also argue against the illogical for those who are too attached to the dimension of the heart. Then, I'm trying to create a holistic perspective in which both are integrated, but neither one of them has become an attachment. This will have its limitations, because the first "illogicality" I was talking about was in a certain sense still logical. That illogicality can still be logically pointed out why it is functional. So there's a certain rationality towards that dimension of being irrational. However, there is a certain point where no matter how strong your logic is, a leap will have to be taken into trust. Trust, genuine trust (not faith or belief), requires you to take a jump into the absurd, the unexplainable, the unknowable: not having the capacity to be understood by the mind. This I call the truest form of absurdity, of illogicality. It's difficult to argue why this has so much significance to take this jump; you will have to experience it, that's the only way. However, there are still some pointers I can provide, some perspectives that can be utilized. But obviously, only the direct experience can free you and truly make you understand it, and not a intellectual agreement of it, though this can be the first step. Firstly, let's discuss the matter of why atheism/rationalism, and its loyal brother called "science", is an act of limiting yourself and ultimately an ego strategy for keeping you stuck. Often times, people ask for "evidence" when a certain statement is made within the realm of religiousity or spirituality, or even just general self-development. The problem is, that such a thing cannot be proven as an absolute truth by its very nature, because everybody is different. Science is good for the development of new technologies and the discoveries of universal truths, such as the realm of physics and mathemathics. However, as far as the matter of humanity is concerned, things really start becoming much more complex. The realm of spirituality, religion and even psychology are cluttered with paradoxes and opposites. What is poison for one person, can be the cure for the other one. It all depends on the makeup of someone's system: one's heart, one's beliefs, one's conditioning, one's personality and so forth... For this reason, how can science and psychology provide any evidence for a technique that would work for all? Impossible! We are all unique individuals, and there is no absolute truth that works for everyone all the time. At least, as far as the conventional perspective is concerned. From the perspective of the absolute, of the all, then perhaps there are truths that work for everyone. Let me give you an example. Take the statement: Love frees you from suffering. Is this true? I would definitely say so. However, what happens when people start taking this statement very seriously? Then people start to act loving, to pretend they are loving, to believe they are loving, when in reality they carry a lot of judgement, resentment, hatred and so forth within them. In reality, the action that is required for them could be to become very assertive, dismiss people out of their lives, start saying "NO!", become angry at someone and defend themselves from hurt that others can inflict upon them. It's not to say that THAT is the absolute truth either for happiness and peace, but it is the relative truth that at that moment works for them, because that is a part they need to develop at that point. True love is only possible when you know how to defend and assert yourself. True love also doesn't mean to always be soft, kind and gentle towards people. Sometimes it is necessary to be harsh and to deliver uncomfortable truths to people directly. Again, relative truths that they need to embody at that stage of their development. Do you see the limitations of science here in the fields of psychological development? Humans are incredibly complex, and a particular advice can be poison for one person and medicine for the other. It all depends what part of them they need to develop at that particular stage in their evolution. Sometimes masculine values have to practiced, and sometimes feminine values. What I just argued for wasn't necessarily against atheistic viewpoints so much; It didn't do much to disprove the notion of a purely materialistic and accidental reality, as atheists believe, but my feeling is that many rationalists turn towards science to explain for them how to live, and my argumentation was to support the dismissal of this notion. Then, if we understand the complexity of our psychology, and we realize that there are no absolute truths and therefore techniques or methods we can eternally hold onto, we may start to realize that our intellectual systems will eventually be limiting towards progressing further in our evolution. Then, we may start looking for a different center from which to make decisions from. This is where the heart comes into play: The world of feelings and emotions. However, what usually (if not always) happens is that instead of understanding that an integration between heart and mind needs to take place, which allows the intuition of the soul to truly open up, we start instead becoming identified with our feelings and we dismiss the cold rationality of the mind. It's not that the mind now has completely disappeared, but that it now utilizes the heart for its beliefs and decisions. It's not that at this point that the identification with the mind has been transcended, but that the mind now simply doesn't purely function from itself only. Feelings now have a great significance, and certainly they do have a great existential importance, but the irony is that the mind starts dismissing its own analytical processes; at least on the surface level. In reality, the mind is still running the entire business, but the underlying belief one is now attached to is: "I should go by what feels right". One does now realize the importance of connection, love, communion, empathy and so forth, but fails to understand that the mind has to be used in this physical reality. Mind has its purpose, and needs to be used consciously, instead of being dismissed. If we fail to integrate our heart and mind, we then start becoming too "weak". We become too floaty, too undriven, too undisciplined. We start dismissing rational, logical decisions which would've helped us further or prevented us from getting in trouble because "It doesn't feel right" Ultimately, this will backfire on us. This is the hypocrisy that —often cold-hearted— rational people such as atheists can see in people who are too identified with their emotions and feelings, as we are experts in pointing out the flaws of our polar opposites, but fail to see the dysfunctionality within ourselves. So naturally, scientists, atheists, rationalists, and all the types of people who are functioning almost purely from their mind and logical systems, feel a great resistance towards the people who get so caught up in their emotions and feelings, as they can see that they get nothing done, that they lack a "down-to-earth" approach, that they are too much floating around in the skies, that they lack self-control and discipline. And certainly, there is a certain truth to this. However, if we dismiss our subjective reality entirely, then we set ourselves up for a great amount of suffering. Then we keep in our emotions, then we start to feel disconnected from existence and other human beings, then we repress our desires if they don't correlate to our rationalist perspective, then we start becoming overwhelmed by stress and anxiety... You may become very succesful in the material world, but you'll realize it's all hollow and you're still the same unhappy person as you were before. In fact, you are unhappier now because you now got what you thought you needed to be happy, but you're still not happy. Now, hope also starts slipping out of your hands. The only way out of this is to start realizing the significance of your subjective reality; You start honouring your feelings, your emotions. You allow yourself to cry or to express joy and laughter in a very frivolous, free-flowing manner. This can be a great relief to your system, and you start to realize the significance of feelings and emotions. However, as I have already explained, the mind tends to swing to the polar opposite. At first we may have honored our rationalism to a great degree, but as we started seeing the pain of our lack of emotional awareness, we now tend to become very antagonistic towards what we first considered to be so valuable. Somehow, we often start to forget all the hypocrisy we saw in people who became very identified with their emotions and feelings. I have already explained what this can result in. Let's get into the next phase. There comes a point when we start once again see the limitations of this identification with all these feelings and the dismissal of the mind, as we were able to when we were still rationalists. However, if we've lived through this phase of feeling-identification, we now start to realize that both heart and mind has a certain significance. This is the door to wisdom. We start to understand that both the language of the heart and the mind has a certain significance. What we don't immediately understand however, is how to proprely integrate both of them. We now start to try to philosophize and figure out logical systems in which we can somehow apply a technique, a strategy, a method as on how to integrate them. We think and think, and the more we go into the many perspectives on what ground or logic we can make our decisions on, the more we start to realize that there is always an opposite perspective to whatever standpoint we take. We use logic —the mind— to try and integrate mind and heart, but again and again we fail to truly understand how to find this balance, because if we really go deeply into it, we always realize that an opposing argument is just around the corner for whatever standpoint we try to take. This can lead to greats amount of confusion, because we don't know what is left and right anymore, what's up and above, what will help us and what will hinder us, what is forward and what is backward... Life can start becoming really difficult and, as was my personal experience, you can come to a point where you become so confused that it paralyzes you to the point where all you do is lay in bed all day, just thinking —even though you're physically perfectly health— and the confusion and thoughts become so crippling that you lose the motivation to do anything at all, except for perhaps supplying the needs for your physical survival. This is the dark night of doubt and confusion, which I personally probably went into more extremely than 99% of people ever will, granted people will reach this stage in their life in the first place. It got me to the point where I started considering and attempting suicide. And it was not merely because I wanted the pain to stop (as I was very open to the idea of reincarnation, this seemed rather futile anyways), but because all other ideas had failed for me, I now had the idea that perhaps if I push the pain to so far that it reaches a certain limit, then perhaps it will somehow instantly transform me, or at least reverse the direction that my life seemed to be heading in. I'm talking about the pain you experience when you're on the edge of death, but haven't made the last step into it yet. So it wasn't really about actually ending it, but pushing the pain to such an extreme so that perhaps something would crack in me and I would have some sort of transformation. It was a last-resort solution, no other idea seemed to work for me anymore. Eventually, I started to realize that this wasn't going to work out for me either. Either it was going to be actual suicide, or a complete change in attitude. Even though I had very strong doubts and fears that it would actually work, there was just one thing I could think of. And that was this: I simply had to make decisions, not knowing whether they were right or wrong, not knowing whether they were helpful or hindering, not knowing whether it was going to make things better or worse, but making decisions for the sake of learning to make decisions, and committing to them (for that moment), as much as I can. It was completely stepping into the complete unknown, having all my intuitive capacities of feeling what I should be doing overshadowed by doubts and fears, and despite all of that still making decisions, and somehow, for no logical explanation at all, still trusting myself and existence in spite of all the worries, that I was heading in the right direction. This is the trust I want to talk about. This is the trust I can not —despite all my clever philosophical capacities— make an argument for as to why to go with it. Except for that it works. Where one who is identified with feelings only may call his/her decisions based on trust, it is still based on faith and identifying with a mental position, namely: "I should go with what feels right". It seems like you're trying to go with your intuition, but in fact, you're not. You're going with a mental position, where your heart simply facilitates your head. Or perhaps I should say: you're going with feeling-intuition, but not with being-intuition. Being-intuition seems in some ways similair to feeling-intiution, but in fact it is radically different. This is the type of intuition that I can not explain or argue in favour for to any rationalist. With feeling-intuition, I can still show the rationalist the significance of feelings and emotional expression as to unburden himself. With being-intuition, my hands are tied. It is a mystery as to what it is. Sometimes it tells you to go with "what feels right", thus implying heart. Sometimes it tells you to go with "what needs to be done", thus implying mind. And sometimes it is somewhere in between. But of course, it doesn't take up a mental position. It simply decides. And you trust it. How can you trust it? How do you know it won't deceive you? Well, there's no way to argue it away, but you simply trust it. It is letting the unknown function through you, and the only indication that this is the right thing to do is the sense of tranquility and peace you get from going along with it, which doesn't mean it stays away from discipline and things you really don't feel like doing. Often times, I don't really even know if I'm listening to my being-intuition or if i'm getting identified with either a mental or emotional (feeling-intuition) position. I'm not so acquianted with it just yet. I've only started to become somewhat acquainted with turquoise for less than a year now [reference to spiral dynamics model]. To differentiate being-intuition from and identification with an idea or feeling is very difficult to notice, very subtle. Most characteristic about it, I would say, is that the element of confusion or hesitation has started disappearing from it. Not that you know for sure this is the right decision, at least intellectually, but there's is no need to be sure anymore. You start to understand that the problem all along was not the decisions you were making, but the division within yourself you were creating when you were making your decisions. One part of you said you should do A, another part said you should do B. Perhaps you were identified with the position of A, but still your unconscious desired for B (or vica versa), so you were in conflict. Perhaps you were genuine enough to see both the validity of A and B, but were unsure as to what to choose, thus still in conflict. Now, with this being-intuition, the decision you make is not important anymore. You can choose A, and that's fine. You can choose B, and that's fine. Perhaps you can even choose AB, and that's also fine. Or perhaps today you choose A, and tomorrow you choose B, and eitherway it is still fine. Now, you start to become truly flexible: being able to switch between a feminine, passive modality to a masculine, active modality very quickly, for whatever the situation requires. You realize that none of this really matters, as long as there is not conflict within you making decisions. Finally, you really start to realize there's no need to worry at all, because you've come to the absolute realization of your own ignorance, so why be worried? You don't know anyways. You can't know! All this worry and striving and contemplating and pondering and disciplining and attempting to accept, trying to not try... All of that was just a complete joke! And you don't even renounce striving, or contemplating or anything like that. If it's a joke, then why avoid it? Jokes are to be played around with. If you start fighting with a joke, it won't be a joke anymore. In realizing all of this, true spirituality and peace starts to become available to you. Finally, you're approaching the promised land, which in reality was never anywhere else but here to begin with. But... Don't take what I say as a philosophy. You have to apply the specific lessons that are relevant for you right now. Your situation is different than mine. Be genuine with yourself, and see what the specific lesson is that you need to learn right now. Don't try to avoid it, even if it is very painful. The only way to peace is to go through the pain of facing yourself, facing your demons. There is no other way. Avoidance is simply delay. What's the point in delay?
  6. A Week or two of Deep Inner Transformation I have enjoyed fasting, and meditation so much that I want to dedicate at least a week to these practices, perhaps longer. During this time I'll be off the internet, and enjoying the smaller things in life. I plan on spending most of my time for the next few months in meditation to reach enlightenment, so I wanted to start off with a strong start. This is again a natural thing for me to do, not forced, it was always destined to be. This is a culmination of everything I've learnt, coming into being. After this retreat anything is possible. I may finish this week realising that I am one with God, or come out as a true Breatharian. For certain, the practice of focusing on my heart will become a habit in my subconscious mind, which means all of these gifts I mentioned and more will come. When you are heart-centred, sooner or later the never ending bliss that we already are will dawn upon us, it is a win-win on all levels. Energetically one who sits and meditates upon their heart is raising the vibration of an entire planet for the liberation of all unawakened souls to see how brightly they already shine. It is so with my deepest love for humanity and for myself that I embark upon this adventure on a deeper level than I have before, and see just what there is to find. I will keep meditating until I know myself as oneness, and have fully embodied my higher self, which may take a few months. I'm ready for this adventure. See you on the flip side everyone, and have a lovely week
  7. @okulele Hey mate, I actually quit my degree literally 2 weeks ago for the same reason as you. I dropped out after 2 years (half way) and will not be going back. In my experience, if you train with an ashram, the transformation that you will go through will be so revelatory that whatever you choose to do when you come back into society will be of value, no matter what it is. The vision you will develop will be of a level that will allow you to make money and survive. I have personally trained with a shaman for the last 3 months doing a vision quest, and that experience is what has allowed me to support myself after quitting university. No I didn't get any qualifications, networks, western type of skills, but a vision that has shown me the light to how to survive without getting the status and social rights of the herd. Meditation and any sort of personal alchemy will permeate through you so strongly that it will continue your survival.
  8. Each perspective has its own, distinct substance that is being changed: Substance of the world is matter Substance of the mind is facts Substance of the body is health Names of the respective substances are arbitrary, but are pointers to something that is static. Substance of each respective perspective is something that is accumulated and changed. In each perspective, a change is constantly occurring with respect to its own substance. The substance of each of these perspective is changed back into itself. Category theory calls this kind of transformation identity, but this name is reserved within this framework to avoid confusion. The names of transformations within their respective domains are following: Transformation within the mind that changes facts into other facts is called thought Transformation within the world that changes matter into different matter is called action Transformation within the body that changes health back to itself is called feeling.
  9. . As you grow older it becomes more and more difficult to unlearn, what you have learned from the society. An older man becomes rigid, resists any change. Youth is the best time for inner transformation because youth is the most flexible time. If you miss your youth, it will be more and more difficult later on. Not that it is impossible , it can happen even when you are old , but it will take more arduous effort and things will not be so easy.
  10. The question for the forum is - what is needed for a change? And is it ready for a change? Can we do a little thought experiment here? Imagine - you have been working way too much and your body starts to tell you this, e.g. you have a stroke, get a burn-out or you get diagnosed with cancer. Really dive into how this would feel and once it feels real - I bet you, you are "crashing" and are ready for the next transformation! But it really has to feel real... it might take a bit longer contemplation. All of a sudden there will be more empathy for others and relationships and bonding will be more important than earning millions of $$.
  11. "The Individualist – Pluralist Stage 4/5 describes what a person can “see” with a fourth person perspective. People now realize that things are not necessarily what they seemed at earlier stages because the interpretation of reality always depends on the position of the observer. Thus the idea of myself as a participant observer as well as having multiple perspectives becomes fascinating to explore. Once we realize that as observers we inevitably influence what we observe, pure, detached, that is, “objective” judgment becomes impossible. This individual discovery is supported by more recent challenges to the rational/scientific assumptions of the Newtonian world view in both the subatomic and the astrophysical sciences. We cannot help but filter our observations through our personal and subjective lenses. Simultaneously, once we also allow for the validity of others’ personal views and perspectives, we can no longer disregard the enormous diversity of people and their beliefs, values and preferences. They are all seem equally valid and worthy of consideration. Cognition: recognition of multiple perspectives, beginning awareness of the complexity of systems and cultural conditioning Relativism: discovery of non-objectivity as participant-observer, and of the potential for defensive self-deception Positive expression: vivid individualism. Focus on and relishing experience in the present, listen to every voice, honor all ideas equally Truth: can never be found; everything is relative; there is no place to evaluate anything with certainty (postmodernism). Fear of being sucked back into the conventional mindset and constrained by its demands. The 4th person perspective represents the next differentiation stage in the sequence of the stage by stage differentiation-integration pattern. It is considered a major watershed in EDT (Ego Development Theory) as it signifies the move from conventional to postconventional meaning making. Several of the other developmental theories consider the next, the Strategist stage, as a more crucial transformation. From a meaning making point of view, what is deemed most important is simply a matter of emphasis and choice. Overall, each new stage represents a new reality for the subject, a new way of identifying as a self and of understanding und relating to the world. The 4th person perspective allows individuals to stand outside the system they grew up in andobserve themselves and their cultural surround from a new altitude. From there one gets a better view of the whole valley or plane below. One can look at the familiar (status quo) through a new lens and query many of its tacit assumptions, values, and beliefs. The 4th person perspective allows individuals to focus on epistemology, that is, to examine how they came to believe what they believe and feel and how one knows and proves things. The transition to the first postconventional stage is a watershed in so far as it is the first time that the vertical move and the questioning of previously unexamined ideas is no longer supported by society and its chief conventional representatives. Postconventional thinking and questioning assumptions may be taught and encouraged in college courses, but then challenged and or dismissed at work and at home. At this stage of differentiation, individuals realize that all groups and societies see it as their mandate to mold the minds and hearts of their members. What’s novel is that they can now perceive how much their values and worldviews have been influenced by the environments into which they were born, in which they were raised, and in which they currently operate. Who we think we are depends on the historical context, geographic place, economic circumstances, education, the overall structure of the society, and many other factors that are part of shaping us. We have far less control over being “molded” than we previously understood. Socialization, it turns out, is relentless and ongoing from the day we enter the world. It begins with the earliest inculcation of what are considered desirable thoughts, feelings, values, and behavior and what is not. It continues through schooling and is reinforced at every moment via the media, commerce, and, most subtly, by the very nature of one’s native language and communication patterns. While the discursive habit is essential for learning and vertical development, it also poses an invisible danger by its deep and unconscious place in most people’s consciousness. For many the recognition that one’s own view of life is not the only possible one happens when traveling abroad and encountering other peoples and languages. Nowadays, access via television and internet to different ways of life and other mores can open ordinary people’s eyes to diverse perspectives even in the remotest corners of the world. This is in striking contrast to earlier historical periods when only adventurers dared to hazard abroad and often never came back to tell their stories while most ordinary denizens had no access to knowledge beyond their immediate local communities. Today’s ubiquity and profusion of information, however, cuts both ways. English as the dominant language of international exchange also acts as powerful indoctrination into Western definitions of what adults should strive for, what personal attributes will favor success in the world, in short what it means to live the good life. With the turn away from the achievement-orientation and the external world towards inner experience -- Individualists and Pluralists alike discover how subjective one’s perspective is and how much of what seemed objective is in the eye of the beholder. The move from being unconsciously embedded in a cultural surround to having a perspective on it can be both liberating and confusing. Liberating because now I am even more able to explore and recognize my own unique way of being a human being with new choices and more capacity to understand many fascinating aspects of the world. Confusing because now there are unlimited ways of perceiving the world without any one view better than another. The same object/event can have different meanings for different observers, for the same observer in different contexts or at different times. Stage 4/5 persons become interested in watching themselves trying to make sense of themselves. This constitutes an important change in thought mode. Individualists-Pluralists abandon purely rational analysis in favor of a more holistic, organismic approach in which feelings, body sensations and context are taken into account. The 4th person perspectives allows people to move from merely logical thinking to a more subtle, psycho-logical approach. The need to reason and to explain everything by rational means lessens. Experience itself becomes the new attraction. Thus the process (or journey) of discovery is now as more intriguing than reaching a goal or creating a product. Individualists and Pluralists tend to distrust conventional wisdom and the hyper-rational tenets of the Conscientious stage. At least initially, they may reject the Achiever mindset wholesale. They may try to distance themselves from all that went before and reject the strive-drive values of the prior stage. This demands that they reevaluate the soundness of the prefixed role identities that society offers and sanctions. One must redefine themselves uniquely and independently of these givens based on their own experience, values, and conclusions. When one fully realizes that most prior meaning making was socially and culturallyconditioned, scientific certainty and the judgmental frame of mind break down. Moreover, Individualists can learn to consciously scrutinize their beliefs in order to test their assumptions or to relish the novel mental freedom such a maneuver opens up. A big discovery for this stage is the relativity of points of view. When people first become aware of this, they may see everything as relative and reject any prior certainties including scientific knowledge as absolute and therefore “false.” It takes experience at this stage to realize that successful living likely requires some of the earlier values. Most individuals need to make a living to survive. Sticking with a job one may not totally like and getting along with others who do not appreciate constant questioning is thus a requirement for most adults no matter how creative and postconventional one may be. As Stage 4/5 individuals explore their feelings and motivations, they can also begin to become aware of how easily we can fool ourselves. The possibility of defensive self-deception and culturally-biased distortion are now starting to be experienced as ever-present dangers. Given the increasing awareness of one’s own vulnerabilities, persons at the 4th person perspective can exhibit a new, non-hostile type of humor that is directed towards the self. It is based on an the beginning sense of the futility of framing things in terms of right and wrong, provable or disprovable. It also recognizes how easily we can fool ourselves about our motives and intentions. Cognition: With the 4th person perspective, individuals realize that things are rarely what they seem. Rather than problems to solve, one must figure out what to define as “the” problem (a double loop move). Many things that appear as problems can now be seen as polarities to be managed since most values come in pairs. Thus, In the positive, liberated version of this stage, individuals may enjoy paradoxes and contradictions and no longer try to explain them away. “To heck with it! Everything is relative.” Linear, intellectual logic gives way to a more holistic understanding of things. It is not always necessary to prove everything in order to embrace it. There is a perception that sudden insights and breakthroughs are possible. Playful exploration and imagination are set free. Life is fresh and enticing. Rather than trying isolate aspects of experience into different to categories and analyze them separately as independent variables, Stage 4/5 individuals are looking for connections and subtler clues to what is going on. Useful information can come from many sources that were previously considered outside the realm of scientific inquiry and viewed with skepticism, such as body sensations, intuition, dreams, reflection, and meditation. Therefore, the shift from conventional to postconventional stages also reflects a qualitative shift from a more linear, rational, intellectual to a more organismic and embodied awareness. In addition, this new way of perceiving can foster the realization that the whole (the Gestalt) is more than its separate parts. Therefore attempting to see the whole picture with its parts rather than merely parts and the details becomes an ever more important consideration with further vertical development. Individualist expression of the 4th person perspective: Rather than trying to analyze everything, Individualists want to enjoy their own subjective experience. What can be trusted is one’s personal experience, sensations, thoughts and feelings in the here and now. Thus, there is a major shift from the Conscientious person’s preference for “doing” to focusing on “being and feeling.” Instead of marching into the future, Individualists become now-oriented. They begin to notice how feelings are diffused throughout the body. They can come to realize how feelings, thoughts and body sensations affect each other. There is a new sense of body/mind connection and a beginning understanding of the interwoven, systemic nature of experience. Individualists often replace the focus on causality (past) and goals (future) of the Conscientious person with a fascination with the immediate present. They need to understand and watch how things unfold. Their attention turns from outcomes and deliverables to an interest in the processes, the relationships and the complex, non-linear influences among variables. Individualists watch how they themselves and other people change and behave differently in different contexts. They have an existential appreciation for how each moment differs from the next. Therefore the present is newly infused with salience and poignancy. Individualists often express hope and enthusiasm for their lives and their unique experience that others find inspiring. At the same time, they may be so idealistic and enamored with their discoveries, they ignore potential difficulties or downsides. In that case, others may find them too unrealistic, “too intense,” or simply “too much.” Individualists are often concerned with making a unique and personal contribution to the world independent of any socially approved roles or tasks. But part of the work as a postconventional adult is to discover what that unique purpose may be. They can therefore become enthralled with watching themselves trying to make sense of themselves. They often withdraw from external affairs and company life, or from ordinary daily routines. Instead, they turn inward in search of their unique gifts or answers to their own burning questions. If they are given room to be themselves and time to experiment freely, they can provide valuable input to the work-place. They find novel ways of looking at problems, or inspire others with their enthusiasm in pursuing their own interests and questions. If working independently, they are likely to fashion schedules and work contexts to optimize their flourishing. Sometimes, they are content to simply live day by day following “their own drummer.” Today’s hippy culture still embodies some of that sense of freedom and self-expression in the company of like-minded others symptomatic of the Individualist mindset. We have found in our data that Individualists may or may not have a communal bend. Some folks turn towards away from society and focus on their own meaning making. They explore their own minds and hearts and are less preoccupied with issues of equality and making sure that all voices are being heard. While they would not discourage such endeavors for those who are into this, it is not where their own interests and energies reside. Unlike Experts, they do appreciate that others have their own unique ways of doing things and being themselves. They recognize that different people have different needs and preferences. That includes their personal need for now exploring their interiors. They are therefore less apt to judge others. Indeed they may at times appear almost “amoral” in their demand to be who they are and do what they want. In the extreme, when Individualists overfocus on their inner world and the experience of having multiple – often seemingly incompatible -- selves they may express frustration with development and ever expanding self-knowledge. The more one explores, the more confused one may get. When the overriding feeling becomes “everything is relative,” and “there is nothing to hold on to,” cynicism and nihilism can become a way to defend against the feeling of being adrift on a vast unknown sea unmoored and rudderless. Identity: While some people at Stage 4/5 relish inconsistencies as proof of the illogical nature of conventional beliefs, others at this stage may become confused by observing the many contradictions. They often describe themselves as having subpersonalities, many voices, or as an “inner tribe.” These voices cannot be readily synthesized into a coherent self-identity. “Sometimes I act, feel and think one way, other times in another depending on all sorts of conditions: my mood, how well I have slept, what context I was in. There is a struggle within myself, different voices competing for attention. And all seem real and important parts of me. Who am I? What is going on? How can anyone tell with certainty who they really are as they are changing and growing?” Thus, the prevalent anxiety of Stage 4/5 is around integrating different parts of oneself. “I can be both my old rational self, and a new, different kind of person; I am afraid I have multiple personalities. I feel confused, split, ambivalent.” Instead of the imagined greater integration and harmony, the 4th person perspective and experience may feel like a cacophony rather than a symphony. Depression at this level has several facets: a) The realistic fear of being reabsorbed, that is sucked back into the “rat race” of the Achiever mindset by the demands of society; b) The dread of a routine work life that does rarely allows for individual self-expression and creativity; c) The concern that one will never find a clear self-definition from which to consistently operate and generate a coherent self sense; d) The deep experience of worry and tensions that come from growing beyond the conventional mindset especially when it comes to intimate relationships. The experience of looking at the world with different eyes than those that used to be one’s closest allies, such as a spouse or a long-term friend, can create great distress for both parties. While the conventional partner is confused about the new way of behaving of the person with the 4th person perspective, those who are postconventional feel misunderstood and un appreciated for what they now feel they have to offer. The latter also often wish for the significant other to become more like themselves. This, in turn, can make the person “left behind” feel disrespected and misunderstood. In this sense, the move of one partner from conventional to postconventional meaning making poses a particular challenge to couples and long-term relationships. Unlike later stages, early postconventional individuals cannot yet fully appreciate the gifts of the earlier levels. They genuinely feel that if only others -- including their loved ones -- would become more like themselves, then everybody would be happier and the whole world would be better place. Pluralist expression of 4th person perspective Pluralists, on the other hand, tend to focus on the multiplicity of voices and contexts. Aware of their own views as interpretations, they do not want to impose these on others. They seek instead to respect and understand all positions. Individual differences are celebrated and paid attention to in a way that Achievers cannot yet appreciate. The very differences become the center of attention now rather than being bracketed out in order to “manage” the differences in order to reach an agreed upon goal. When a group of mostly Pluralists get together, they often make room for everybody to express their positions and opinions as each person’s view is considered equally genuine and valid from their own point of view as well as a crucial aspect of the overall diversity in the room. The tendency, to treat every opinion with the same regard can be driven to an extreme. In societies, organizations or teams where everybody’s voice is given equal opportunity for expression, meetings can run on forever and little gets resolved or accomplished. The over-focus on fairness and voice, can lead to “decision paralysis” as no one dares to take a lead role, assert a position, or make an executive decision for fear to be seen as unilateral, uncooperative, or oppressive. Indeed, it is one of the more problematic attributes of many proponents of radical pluralism that they judge all hierarchies as oppressive. They cannot recognize that decision paralysis is its own form of oppression and constraint. On the positive side, especially those individuals who were or felt marginalized in the past may feel acknowledged and heard for the first time. Above all, an awareness of human diversity and multiple perspectives is the powerful and progressive contribution that this stage has brought to human affairs. Moreover, the egalitarian emphasis of the Pluralist worldview is an important step towards further differentiation and integration Although it is difficult for Stage 3/4 and Stage 4 people to tolerate committed Pluralists with their egalitarian fervor, Pluralists have prepared the way for an even deeper appreciation and tolerance of difference, one that allows for making qualitative distinctions as well as for cherishing human diversity. This more discerning and flexible view becomes possible at the next, the Strategist stage. To differentiate this capacity from the Pluralist perspective, an individual at the next level can prioritize among voices because they recognize that some views are based on better evidence and take more aspects of a situation into account. When Loevinger created her original theory in the sixties and seventies, a focus on diversity and equality of perspectives was at the forefront of social thought. People who dedicated themselves to bringing diversity issues into the public discourse were therefore deemed postconventional. In the meantime, diversity and equality concerns are mentioned at all levels of development because they have become anchored in the law. Therefore mere mentioning of diversity and gender equality no longer indicates postconventional development. Especially when Achievers and Experts execute diversity trainings, even with the best of intentions, they may focus so much on the differences to be valued that the bonds of our common humanity can get overlooked in the process. A special case of pluralism is the academic discipline of deconstructive postmodernism. It beliefs that it is impossible to defend any belief by proclaiming that all views are subjective and therefore legitimate since everything is relative. When relativism is carried to its logical extreme no view or interpretation is better than any other. All are equal. Postmodernists believe that any metanarrative succumbs to the same subjective arbitrariness. They deny the legitimacy of all hierarchies and all hierarchical ordering. When Pluralists adopt this belief, they may be hypersensitive to perceived instances of judgment as “better” or “valuable” in human terms. According to Wilber, radical postmodernism leads to what he calls “Boomeritis (2003).” In the extreme case, postmodernists assert with absolute certainty that there is no position from which to judge anything. They do not yet recognize the inherent self-contradiction in their assertion. It is, of course, a form of judgment and hierarchical ordering of values as those who disagree clearly have a less evolved view from theirs. Social: The very heightened capacity to contact the self and to introspect leads to a greater capacity to empathize with others and to tolerate different ideas, behaviors and reactions. Stage 4/5 individuals are often admired by others, especially by other postconventional persons, for their unconcerned, energetic self-expression, their spontaneity, and their ability to live a life according to their own unique style free from restrictive conventions. At the same time, they may be feared as unpredictable or dismissed as dreamers and non-doers, especially in an strive-drive Achiever context. Their relationships with others are intense and mutually rewarding when there is synergy and choice. When they have to manage others as part of a job, they can be autocratic or idiosyncratic to such a degree, that others find them “impossible to nail down”, “aloof and unapproachable ” or simply “wishy-washy.” One never knows where one stands with such a leader. Internal dimension: Individuals are deeply concerned with their interiors, with feelings and motiva-tions. They show a beginning awareness of inner conflict and ambivalence as natural aspects of reality and of the potential for defensive self-deception and culturally biased distortion. Cognitive level: Things are not always what they seem. One’s interpretation of the world depends largely on one’s position as an observer. One is always a participant observer. One can never be totally detached or “objective.” The same object has a different meaning for different observers. Individuals abandon purely rational analysis in favor of a more holistic, organismic approach in which multiple perspectives and interpretations as well as the context are taken into account. Mature Individualists- Pluralists can integrate and bridge rational thought with non-linear approaches to getting information. Prevalent anxiety: “I can be both my old rational self, and a new, different kind of person; I am afraid I can’t figure out who I really am. I feel confused, split, ambivalent.” Depressive style: Inner conflict and despair about ever finding one’s true self. Preoccupation: Rather than trying to analyze everything, State 4/5 individuals want to enjoy the subjective experience, their unique way of making sense of things. It is all that can be trusted. They are newly focused with being and feeling rather than with doing and achieving. Instead of marching into the future, individuals become now-oriented as they infuse experience in the present with importance. The past is gone and the future cannot really be known. Meaning making has shifted from an analytical -intellectual to a more organismic, somatic and holistic mode of understanding. Personality types: Individualists often prefer to live at the fringe of society, to live exactly the way they want to be. Admired by postconventional people for their spontaneity and unique self-expression, conventional persons may distrust them for being non-conformist and impossible to understand and predict. Avowed Pluralists can be powerful advocates for tolerance and equality, but also get hung up in endless discussions and overprivileging diversity to the neglect of our common humanity Language clues: The Syntax of the 4th person perspective contains many contingencies, non-banal qualifications, and several contrasting ideas. “Even though, despite, nonetheless, ,” signal beginning greater cognitive complexity and replace “but” and “or.” Individuals can now entertain contradicting ideas and join them by “both/and” and “while.” The writings contain vivid personal information (often punctuated with exclamation marks) and more nuanced psychological vocabulary and comments on their own responses to the MAP. MAP protocols show a distinct emphasis and “need” for unique self-expression, a vivid sense of released energy and individuality. The verbal rejection of gender items and other prompts in sentence completions such as ,“How can I generalize?” or “it all depends” indicate beginning awareness of relativity of point of view and the nature of generalization.
  12. Accept it, become relaxed, that will be the beginning of your transformation. More you are discontented with yourself, more weak you will become. Learn to live in a relaxed way. Walk in relaxed way, eat in a relaxed way, talk in a relaxed way. Learn the knack of meditation.
  13. @Dogsbestfriend but it didn't go away entirely? then it seems to be permanent/persisting as well, doesn't it? the intensity go the change probably depends on lots of things.. mindset, implementation, general 'level' of awareness, trip frequency and intensity, how much we surround ourself with enlightenment work.. on one trip I've actually experienced something like a journey through my own DNA: I was riding on the double helices like on a infinite roller coaster. I witnessed a transformation of my genes; lots of bases were changed I hope you'll experience some long lasting enhancement as well <3 @John Iverson I took about 10-14 trips since march 2017. mostly shrooms and AL-LAD, one time MDMA @Viking wow, that sounds quite intense! and all of that from one trip? beautiful! did you write a trip report? @PsiloPutty yes, definitively! that's beautiful to hear..it's the same for me. butterfly effect, huh? a trip inspired me to become active on this forum, which made me go to a retreat, which again turned my life upside down <3 yoga, books, meditation, this place here...it's all so powerful. but nothing seems to send you straight into oneness like psychedelics it's been therapeutic, life changing and a real quantum leap for me <3
  14. @Dogsbestfriend You're clearly a materialist who has no interest in what science calls paranormal, in fact, it flies right over your head and I wonder why I am wasting time with you, go get drunk. You have decided to treat imagination as just imagination. You can enjoy it for yourself without knowing the flood of memes that is rippling through your nihilism. You will need to go and play more lego for a while, or scalpel some bricks out of a wall. Yes but you always have a desire to see some raw facts right? Because that's what truth is? No. Cause the world needs to prove something to your 'rationalist mind'. Right? You have been persuaded already, thank you for doing it for me, I need shades of stones in my painting. You may be a witness to yourself, because really all I am claiming is that you have a Greater Source beyond you, not that it's not available unless you are great and supernatural. There is no need to develop any kind of paranormal experience or activity to experience the movement of Spirit within you (Knowledge), most people have it already in some form or another. This is what I associate and ascribe to as being thanks to my practice in Steps To Knowledge. It's available for free online at www.stepstoknowledge.com I am not advertising it, I am only trying to share a gift and hoping others learn about it and the Greater Community Spirituality presented in the New Message from God, in order to realise that people's minds need to be trained so that we are no longer bitches to influences that are gross or subtle which we are not even aware of. Us silly beings. Humans, we are great and creative, but we are a bit gullible when we are told we can't do things. But I admit I am still at the beginning of knowing how all this works and have been practicing this for almost four years now, pretty much meditating every moment of the day now. It is just that people are unaware that if someone else were watching their own thoughts in the world and in the environment, that they are actually less in control than they think they are. People are pulled back and forth by the rhythms and movements of life, and they have no control over this until they realise they are a broken record that just needs a good wake up, then they see that spirit is within them. Spirit is dynamic present and interactive, but still, with a kind of pattern and movement to it, a deeper current, but still. It is more of a juice that mediums are infused with in their environment and the whole universe, with currents, and with a grid like order to it, but it never goes anywhere towards anything because it has no beginning or end. This juice is not empty, but instead it permeates reality with a qualitative meaning in the eye of God. It can be transferred to people in a persuasive way that is 'good' and almost telepathic (if spiritual). On top of that only ones who have a deeper connection to Knowledge within themselves will ever have the ability to control and direct their own minds and thoughts. You also must follow a Stronger Mind within you, whether this is given to you by a Teacher through practice perhaps or your own Self through a connection to your Deeper Self. Which in the end is still a higher order identity, not an individuality. Or better, this will be the end of your individuality, and the beginning of your expression. http://www.stepstoknowledge.com/steps/Step12-My-individuality-is-to-express-life-itself.htm Step 12 My individuality is to express life itself. HERE YOUR UNIQUENESS IS A GREAT ASSET and a source of joy, not a source of painful alienation and not a source of painful judgment against yourself or others. This distinction does not elevate you above or place you below anyone else. It merely pinpoints the real purpose behind your individuality and its great promise for the future. You are here to express something. That is the real meaning given to your individuality because you do not want to be separate anymore. ON TWO OCCASIONS TODAY, practice two periods of silence exercising the practice that we have illustrated thus far. Practice 12: Two 15-minute practice periods. https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-5/wisdom-greater-community-volume-2/self-expression-the-mental-environment 'The mental environment is the environment in which you think. The physical environment is the environment in which you act. The physical influences the mental, but the mental influences the physical to a greater degree. Unless the physical environment is directly infringing itself upon you or controlling your actions or behavior, the influence of the mental environment on you is greater and more consistent. Therefore, the greater your awareness and understanding of your own mental condition and how others influence you and how you influence them, the greater the impact you can have intentionally upon the world. Here your mind will become much more concentrated than others, which will give you power, for power is concentration of mind. This concentration can be for good or for ill, but it will exert a greater influence to the degree to which it is concentrated. The person who thinks only of a few things that draw all of his or her emotional intensity will exert a greater influence on the mental environment than someone who casually believes in something or considers something only periodically. The person who has a deep conviction and a deep sense of belief will exert a greater influence than someone who is only entertaining or considering an idea. People with conviction will be able to do far more and will have much greater impact in the world. They will be able to influence other minds. This does not mean that what they believe in or are convinced of is necessarily good, for power is neutral. Power used for good and power used for ill represents concentration of mind. Therefore, for you to have a greater influence upon the world, which is necessary if you wish to make a contribution to the world, you must understand your mental resources and the influences that affect them every day. To give you an example of what this might look like, I will speak of The Greater Community Way of Knowledge here because it emphasizes development in the mental environment to a very large degree. In a Greater Community context, development in the mental environment is essential for success, for in the future you will be dealing with intelligences that are far more concentrated than you are and have a much greater perspective, having lived with a much broader viewpoint and experience. A more concentrated mind will exert a greater influence upon you than you will upon it. In order for you to engage successfully with a Greater Community intelligence, not only to comprehend it but to offset its influence, you must have a much greater concentration of mind. People who undertake the reclamation of Knowledge often find themselves withdrawing from life in certain ways in order to minimize or limit the influences of society upon them. This gives them the freedom to re-evaluate themselves without feeling bombarded by the world’s influences and images. This is why many people who begin to study The Greater Community Way of Knowledge seek escape from television, radio and even music—not because these things are inherently bad but because they are so influential. They withdraw from individuals who influence them in ways that are counterproductive to their well-being and to their ability to refocus their mind. This withdrawal is necessary for people to rethink their thoughts, to have the freedom of evaluation, to gain control of their own mental forces, to deepen their awareness of themselves and to become more sensitive to the things that are influencing them. Now, there are gross influences and there are subtle influences. Initially, in The Greater Community Way of Knowledge people will want to withdraw from the gross influences. This will enable them to develop the sensitivity to comprehend and effectively engage with the subtle influences. Subtle influences include the thoughts of other people who are not in your immediate environment but with whom you are in relationship. Subtle influences include the presence of extraterrestrial life that may be in your vicinity. Perhaps this extraterrestrial presence is not affecting you directly or focusing on you at all, but its presence will exert a certain influence upon you. This influence is subtle, but this does not mean that it has no power or does not affect you. Indeed, many of your depressing moods have nothing to do with you at all. Many of them are the result of you engaging with something in the mental environment that you are not aware of. Often it is something that is not even in your visual range. Here people can go through tremendous mood swings frequently, being affected by things that are not even part of their own lives. In other cases, their own thinking is governing their emotional responses to a very great degree. Yet, often people who are engaged in therapeutic processes make the mistake of thinking that all of their experiences are determined by their own conditioning, their own thinking and their own activities. This false assumption is made because people think they are isolated in life. They are not aware of the mental environment. The mental environment is like living in a sea of consciousness. You are swimming in a great ocean of consciousness. When I say consciousness, it does not mean that it is self-conscious. It simply means that it is actively thinking. Active thinking is not necessarily conscious thinking. The mind is working all the time, whether you are aware of it or not. It is exerting an influence and being influenced all the time, whether you are aware of it or not. Gaining awareness of the mind, controlling its influence on others and controlling what influences it, or at least determining how much this influence can affect you, represents achievement and advancement in education. The result of this will give you greater empowerment, greater certainty and the ability to affect, nurture and support others in ways that are effective and appropriate for them. This is a very great achievement. If you look about in the world, you will see that many people feel that they are the victims of life, that life is controlling them, that they have no power to change it, that it is too big for them. This is so common. You can see it everywhere. You can hear it in so many conversations. It is demonstrated in people’s activities. It is demonstrated in their forms of escape, which are often destructive. It is demonstrated in the ineffectiveness that people feel in meeting real problems in the world. It is omnipresent. Why is this? If your experience of being influenced is greater than your experience of influencing others, clearly you are not aware of the mental environment and do not have an awareness of your own thinking and its impact upon others. Indeed, the prevalent belief that people are governed by circumstances and are totally conditioned by them is reinforced by the people who believe in it, and so this belief becomes stronger and seemingly more impermeable. Thus, unconsciousness fortifies itself. You fortify anything you believe in. You add to it. Anything you value you fortify. If you value truth, you add to truth in the world. If you value the escape from truth, you add to the escape from truth in the world. The mental environment you live in, the human mental environment, is a result of all of this put together.' Here eat shit. Or I could say you are swimming in whale piss and need to realise this, you may be krill. I go through all this training and practice, I try to get to the point where I can see a thought travelling in my body, usually it's something I don't want. If you experience this then come knocking on my door, otherwise just leave some flowers please, or meditate for a few lives, and see that you are not I, nope, you are you, and you have your own stuff to go through. Yes I made a rhyme. But sorry for being low on emotional intelligence that's not my strong point, or social knowledge either, maybe you can help me with this. I need a translation, how does one define something as psychic and paranormal? What is normal? Mate I am really curious! Tell me what is normal! Shit's crazy over here, everything! @Prabhaker Good point. I think then if we internally insight into the other person's personality, we in some way are able to assist them by mirroring a greater reality back to them, like karma, some teachers only. It's illusory, but the mirror becomes a great power, like silver-mercury, without trying to use it, you can see it is still essence as a reflection of a story that is of your own making from some time long ago. It could even be permanent in the end if it's meaning beyond your conscious mind, and exists forever, and you just digest it in your own way by knowing this, because it is ever-lasting and ever-predictable for as long as you are in a physical body and in a universe governed by some patterns. Your consciousness is the mystery of zero and it's malleability. You are penetrating reality with a central point of tendency. There you will find nourishment in more things than you think of. Ask an aghora sadhu. He sees the divine in the profane, and has incredible power as a result of this. He lives in a cemetery or funeral pyre. But he is enlightened. He eats shit. This is similar to the relationship between the brain stem and the direction of the eyes, which are best aligned in my opinion for better energy flow. You can reduce thinking and it is effective, and yet still your connection to thought is never hindered and actually becomes more sensitive the less you think and becomes more and more pure like a drop of water dropping into a still pool of glowing water. There are tricks, for example the tilt of someone's head and what they do with their eyes can tell you a lot about them, and can show the nature of where they are at and whether you will be perceived as agreeable or not depending on what you say or feel even. Eyes can manipulate in incredible ways. Lets not lie. Inside is a current much deeper, much slower and more delicate, and it needs to align through the whole system to operate in full harmony all the time. This would mean that you are in some thought always with it, never losing sight of Knowledge as a one single platform or foundation you stand upon, without losing Knowledge of the dynamicity of life as well (Knowledge is what the tradition I follow calls the deeper intelligence or alive current). @pluto "Here your mind will become much more concentrated than others, which will give you power, for power is concentration of mind. This concentration can be for good or for ill, but it will exert a greater influence to the degree to which it is concentrated. The person who thinks only of a few things that draw all of his or her emotional intensity will exert a greater influence on the mental environment than someone who casually believes in something or considers something only periodically. The person who has a deep conviction and a deep sense of belief will exert a greater influence than someone who is only entertaining or considering an idea. People with conviction will be able to do far more and will have much greater impact in the world. They will be able to influence other minds. This does not mean that what they believe in or are convinced of is necessarily good, for power is neutral. Power used for good and power used for ill represents concentration of mind. Therefore, for you to have a greater influence upon the world, which is necessary if you wish to make a contribution to the world, you must understand your mental resources and the influences that affect them every day." Pluto energy? Energy of no beginning and end, death rebirth transformation destruction, the dark eye of shiva, and in his one pointed focus comes all the creative change of the universe, and this is he and kali dancing. So she is Shakti. One last thing, it is incredible how spiritual capitalism is already happening in the world, people are using this power already, and probably have since ever before the wars and industrial revolution, why not? I don't say it is good, but we must get on an even playing field not? Why. One last thing: 'The art of Seeing', for who has the patience to listen. https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/other-revelations/the-art-of-seeing
  15. A special case of pluralism is the academic discipline of deconstructive postmodernism. It beliefs that it is impossible to defend any belief by proclaiming that all views are subjective and therefore legitimate since everything is relative. When relativism is carried to its logical extreme no view or interpretation is better than any other. All are equal. Postmodernists believe that any metanarrative succumbs to the same subjective arbitrariness. They deny the legitimacy of all hierarchies and all hierarchical ordering. When Pluralists adopt this belief, they may be hypersensitive to perceived instances of judgment as “better” or “valuable” in human terms. According to Wilber, radical postmodernism leads to what he calls “Boomeritis (2003).” In the extreme case, postmodernists assert with absolute certainty that there is no position from which to judge anything. They do not yet recognize the inherent self-contradiction in their assertion. It is, of course, a form of judgment and hierarchical ordering of values as those who disagree clearly have a less evolved view from theirs. YELLOW Because of its global understanding and the long-term sense of oneself as part of ongoing history, this stage parallels the “integral” or yellow stage in Wilber’s AQAL theory. As mentioned earlier, the LMF emphasizes the cognitive move from linear to systems thinking as a watershed in meaning making while Integral theory focuses on the qualitatively new capacity to see the world and oneself through an evolutionary lens. The Autonomous stage is the first level that fully recognizes the need and value for the existence of all stages both in terms of diversity in society as well as in terms of one’s own development. At least, in the ideal. The human tendency to want to be among similar people and to affirm one’s own worldview can easily lead to new forms of feeling superior and pride as a member of a chosen or special “tribe.” Autonomous persons realize that they may notice different conflicting aspects in themselves at different times and in different contexts. However, -- unlike Individualists, who may despair about ever knowing who they really are -- they are capable of “owning” and integrating many disparate parts of themselves. This includes integrating previously compartmentalized sub-identities, and rejected or marginalized parts of themselves. The experience of being part of interlocking systems rather than a bunch of separate agents changes one’s sense of responsibility in conflict situations. One sees how one inevitably is part of and contributes consciously or unconsciously to them. The self and the other can be seen as both perpetrator and victim, giver and taker, product and process as actions, thoughts and feelings can no longer be isolated as was the preferred way of dealing with difficulties at the Achiever level. Instead they form a dynamic interplay. Loevinger called this stage “autonomous” because individuals can now make meaning autonomously, independent of conventional ideas. While one cannot change reality, one has the freedom to interpret it to serve one’s own preferences and to make choices about life and who one wants to be. This is possible now precisely because one fully understands that interpreting and evaluating is what human beings do to make sense of experience. We all tell stories about what is happening, who does what to whom, how we see life overall, and why we believe that we matter. Autonomous persons consciously commit to create a meaningful life for themselves and for others in the world through self-determination and self-actualization. They realize that the way they tell their life stories changes with additional experiences and insights. The crucial new capacity is to realize one’s power to generate meaning and to tell a coherent self-story by creating it. Unlike people at Stage 4/5 who are not able to integrate various parts of themselves, Stage 5 representatives feel empowered to do so. Thus, Strategist possess a relatively strong, autonomous self sense that is both differentiated and well integrated. It is different from the Achiever sense of authorship because it is much more aware of the limits of one’s control. At the same time, Strategists embrace the options for self-realization they have and see the limits to their power as part of what it means to be alive. With their sense of transformational mission comes set of broader, human principles one must uphold such as the right of all human beings to be treated with justice and mercy. Autonomous persons worry most about having failed to observe those universal principles they value deeply such as the right of all people to self-determination and for being treated with dignity and respect. With their expanded awareness, Strategist use even more channels of information to make their moves. They are often conscious of energy dynamics (physical and otherwise), and notice underlying patterns that only emerge over longer period of time. They also have a deeper appreciation than any prior stage of how challenging it is to be a mature, responsible adult and how rare their own capacities are compared with most other people they are in contact with. Thus, they may pride themselves of being in the know about themselves and about the larger issues facing the world. Whatever their personal expertise, it is likely enhanced by interpersonal skills and worldly savvy based on having learned from experience. Strategist are often motivated and infused with a grand purpose and a vision of what could be. Unlike Pluralists and Individualists, however, their enthusiasm is based on high ideals as well as on a more realistic view of what it takes to change old patterns in self, in organizations, and in society. Strategists want to hone themselves therefore as instruments of change. They realize that they need to be the most they can in order to be of most service to others. Both servant and steward leadership are part of one’s care for the larger system and future generations. Wanting to help others evolve is one of the strongest motivators for Autonomous persons. Humanists, developmental psychologists, coaches and consultants often inhabit this stage. So do Strategist executives and leaders who see human beings as precious capital and who take multiple bottom lines into account in measuring their organizations’ success. In the best work place scenario, tangible as well as intangible outcomes are taking into consideration by paying attention to the physical and mental health of the staff, to an aesthetic work environment, to a good work-life balance, as well as to serving the wider community. Strategists conceive of developing people as a valuable contribution to the individuals themselves as well as to society. When this need to have others “become the most they can be” encounters resistance, Autonomous persons may feel impatient with others’ pace of development and frustrated with their “unwillingness” to grow despite their efforts and support. This need to have others transform is one of the central flaws of this stage along with an attachment to knowing and being coherent. They also tend to be among those who are most convinced that higher development is “always” better and should be fostered at all cost. Higher is believed to be better because the more autonomous and insightful about their inner dynamics individuals become, the more they can claim that they have an objective (non-distorted) and realistic self-identity (Kegan, 1982). This is the case even though this is also the first stage that can see how all people have had to move along the developmental trajectory through the various stages to be where they are now. Autonomous individuals also understand, at least theoretically, that this happens at a different pace and to a different degree for different people depending on life circumstances and appropriate challenge and support. Developmental thinking is now an aspect of cognition, of being able to look back and see how one evolved from a totally ego-centric and self-protective, to an ethnocentric, to a global or world-centric perspective. Many Autonomous persons see life as an open-ended journey. They believe that there is no predetermined way to follow for all human beings. Each individual has to find and create his/her own life style and is responsible for his or her own self-fulfillment. Autonomous individuals are interested in psychological questions and how to come to terms with inner conflict. Unlike individuals at the conventional stages, seeking therapy, advice, or consulting from others, is not seen as a weakness, but as a necessity and an actual strength. Autonomous persons have faith in their own and other people’s capacity to make meaning out of challenges and difficulties. They can construe their own personal sense without having to impose it on all others. They may also invite others’ solutions to conflict and respect their needs for autonomy. Sometimes Autonomous persons find ordinary constraints of life stultifying such as making a living and working an eight-hour day. They see themselves as being destined for bigger tasks with a far-reaching impact different from ordinary folks. They would prefer to enjoy their passions for influence and power on their own terms with maximal freedom or a mandate to do so for the benefit of all. If leading an organization to greatness is one of those passions, it may be a fortuitous match. Cognitive: With the expansion of the 4th person perspective in time (historical) and space (global) Strategists are able to operate from multiple levels and perspectives. They have fully shifted to a systems awareness while appreciating the benefits of a traditional scientific linear view of reality. They can value and apply both conventional and postconventional practices without having to reject the former in order to feel like themselves. They also recognize natural hierarchies in life. They are no longer afraid of acknowledging that some members of society are better equipped for certain tasks, or more cognitively differentiated than others. The Strategist embraces the notion that all human beings deserve respect, but also knows that not all opinions and all perspectives deserve the same attention. Unlike Pluralists, Strategists can now prioritize among multitude of voices because they recognize that some views are based on better evidence as well as being more comprehensive and fruitful than others. Making informed strategic decisions is part of the Strategist leader’s power. She chooses who of the pivotal stake holders to involve when decisions have to be made on an issue that requires others’ input. Society sometimes recognizes as valuable the capacity of the Strategist to make difficult decisions and to compare and integrate multiple perspectives. Furthermore, Autonomous persons have become aware of the performative contradiction of the postmodernist’s position and assertion that there is no position from which to judge anything. They realize that assessing, evaluating and choosing are vital aspects of functioning and making sense of life. They distinguish between biased judging and wise discernment. Whereas one has to be on the alert to avoid bias and notice one’s evaluative preferences, judging itself is crucial in human affairs. It is at the Strategist stage, that individuals begin to see paradox and ambiguity as an inevitable dimension of living and to increasingly tolerate these. Autonomous persons become aware and fluent in using polarity thinking in order to examine issues and tensions. Complex and sustainable solutions often require that one pays attention to opposing but interdependent values. The most effective and healthy designs foster the wisdom aspects of both poles and the minimize their downsides. However, the belief that one can at least approximate an accurate picture of the territory with diligence and through dialogue and collaboration is still prevalent. Autonomous individuals are aware of multiple interrelated systems and how influences are circular, cyclical and often tapestry -like. They have beginning access to an understanding of life that can integrate psycho-logically paradoxical elements. Therefore, less energy needs to be spent on “defending.” This then allows Strategists to be more accepting and spontaneous than adults at earlier stages. Emotional: For the Autonomous person inner processes are fascinating, complex and demanding to explore. As much as they need others, they also need privacy and time for self-reflection. The self is experienced as in transformation and constantly reappraised. Watching this “unfolding” of things is one of the main satisfactions at this stage. One’s precious life work consists in trying “to become the most one can become” in contrast to the goal of Achievers hoping to be the best one can be. In the Strategist’s eyes, good company, good questions, intimate relationships, and a meaningful occupation as well as chances for self-actualization and self-fulfillment are essential for a meaningful existence. Others are valued as ongoing, vital co-actors in one’s own fascinating life drama. Autonomous persons become fine-tuned to their own psychological well-being and inner workings. They take responsibility for regulating their thoughts, feelings and behavior. They are responsive and adjust when required as part of different life contexts and career phases. Deeper life purpose and legacy issues become an important topics of concern. How does my life and my contribution matter beyond my life time and my immediate realm of influence? Relativism changes into personal commitment and responsibility for creating one’s own personal meaning. Individuals are now capable of rediscovering and owning parts of the self which have previously been disowned for being too confusing or too threatening. The shadow side of the self can be acknowledged to a greater degree and therefore a new integration and wholeness is possible. Although Autonomous folks experience role conflicts and dilemmas strongly, they recognize that these are inescapable and that ambivalent feelings are natural. Based on this capacity to integrate and take a metasystematic view of different parts of experience, they tend to be quite certain of themselves and their cognitive and emotional capacity for synthesis and integration. Unlike individuals at the later, the postautonomous stages of meaning making, Autonomous persons try very hard to keep their act together and to come across as reasonable, mature, and knowing themselves well. They feel responsible for being able to orchestrate conflicting needs and different subidentities and generally appear more balanced than earlier stages. Strategists sometimes present themselves as exemplars of humanity giving off a whiff of superiority. Now even failures and missteps are presented as positive aspects of learning. While reframing and retelling one’s story in a more positive, self-sustaining light is a great strength of this stage, the capacity of owning some of one’s failures and foibles, can be used by the ego to bolster its sense of achievement and importance. We call this the whitewashing tendency of the Strategist. “Look how well I know myself. I am not afraid to share even my less than stellar sides so you can learn." Although not inevitable, feeling powerful and insightful because one understands so much about human nature and the world can lead to self-inflation. The focus on “humility” that several leadership studies mention as an important aspect of good stewardship is likely a response to this observation. On the other hand, it is a great triumph over earlier stages, that at this level one can recognize that flaws are part of being human. Getting a perspective on them is a life-long invitation to deepening one’s self- awareness and connection to others. Interpersonal: Even more than at the Individualist stage, experiences of all kinds can be welcomed and accepted for their immediate qualities. Distressing emotions become more tolerable and offer insights that can be heeded. Strong positive and negative feelings can be acknowledged within oneself and shared with others. Self and others are accepted as complex human beings with both positive and problematic traits and dispositions. There is an infinite variety of unique expressions of being a self. Only the dynamic and intimate exchange with others makes it possible to get in touch with aspects of one’s behavior one would otherwise tend to overlook. Good feedback makes one aware of what one is defending or blind to. Feedback is vital for continuing development and for gaining ever deeper self-knowledge and wisdom. One needs both the caring and the critical presence of others to optimize oneself as an instrument of change. The deep sense of interdependence creates a need to be mutually supportive and challenging. Strategists may feel responsible to help others transform in order to fulfill what they intuit as other’s potential. The “transformational” or “evolutionary” fervor of this level is occasionally blind to the transformer’s own identification with and self-importance in being a “transformer.” Many well-meaning change agents are not aware of the potential disregard for the needs and capacity of the recipients in their efforts to help others grow. Strategists can sometimes show impatience with others’ slow development, and frustration with their perceived resistance to grow. Notwithstanding, many seasoned Autonomous persons are ever more capable of expressing tolerance and non-possessive love (or being love) because of their profound appreciation of other people in their own right as unique individuals and as adults with a growing consciousness as well as fellow human beings with whom one shares the human plight. Others are seen as actors in their own life dramas, which are deeply moving and fascinating to participate in. Beginning with this stage, benevolence towards others and increasing compassion for oneself can become an abiding attitude. Emotional: Autonomous persons have now access to a wide range of different emotions and different states of awareness. Their emotional tone is different from that of Individualists. It is often less cynical and distrusting, more upbeat and also again more certain about oneself and knowing. Feeling into various sensations and emotions is one of the ways one approaches any experience. Rational deliberation and objective analysis are fully integrated into a comprehensive approach to problem definition and solving. Strategists can also recognize subtle distinctions among similar feelings. Thus, they would likely distinguish between various kinds of sorrow, grief, regret, disappointment etc. Overall, they seek to claim an authentic, truthful and adaptive self. Authenticity, is therefore an important value in the Strategist’s value repertoire. The greater awareness of their inner depth also allows Autonomous persons to use dreams, fantasy, and imagination much more freely than earlier stages. Their thoughts are allowed to take off. Strategist seek creative, integrated solutions to large-scale and long-term problems. More even than Individualists, they can think outside the box. Their imagination is no longer constrained by conventional approaches while these are taken into account and not ignored or resisted as at the previous stage. Strong feelings are becoming of interest as indicators of something important to observe in oneself and others. Autonomous persons can see difficulties as a natural part of the human condition -- inherent in the dynamic interplay of multiple systems and of complex human interactions. Thus they are often more skilled at negotiating impasses and conflicts because they are not as likely as all earlier stages to use blaming as a defense. They can identify with others and appreciate their vulnerabilities as well as their unique strengths. Because they are aware of their own many shortcomings, hang-ups, preferences and less than ideal habits, they can express light-hearted humor directed at our general folly as human beings. Moral: Strategists genuinely feel principled anger and righteous indignation towards the injustices of the world. They will stand up against society to express their personal convictions or to uphold their higher, overarching principles regarding human rights and well- being. They are willing to go on the barricades and risk their lives and reputations in order to fulfill the aims of their convictions. Their anger does not usually seek a victim but is geared towards rectifying perceived ills. Because of their capacity for the long-term view and they often express a deep concern for the well-fare of future generations. They feel a challenge and the obligation to make wise decisions that will serve beyond their own time and region. Self-less sacrifice for the greater good can thus be part of an Autonomous person’s positive self-identification. A Strategist’s standards for living a meaningful life are elf-evaluated and internalize. “To walk the talk” becomes an expression of one’s moral character and authenticity. One’s behavior becomes an expression of one’s moral principles and convictions. When irreconcilable role conflicts are discovered, there may be a deep unease and yet also a greater tolerance for feeling dissatisfied, ambivalent or confused than at earlier levels. One must qualify this statement because total acceptance of what is, is not yet part of the Strategist mindset. A serious effort towards even greater self-knowledge and self management skills remains a facet of an Autonomous person’s ideal self-image and drive towards human perfection. When they seek to become enlightened, they may make an enduring effort to “achieve” that goal with great seriousness and diligence. They may spend years in regular meditation practice, attending retreats, and following a particular spiritual leader or contemplative school. They may not fully realize that their very efforting is in contradiction with accepting what is. The tension between effort towards achieving a goal, even a spiritual one, and acceptance of what is may intensify at the next level of development. Some Autonomous persons become charismatic moral leaders who inspire others to follow their great vision of an ideal world order and a world fit for generations to come. When they defend what they believe to be a worthy cause, they can be courageous and disregard negative consequences for themselves. But they may also be overly forceful with their convictions especially when they are fueled by principled anger. The combination of charisma, moral conviction and interpersonal skills can be a dangerous combination if not kept in check. Followers often do not have the wherewithal to see the limitations and possible self-serving aspects of such a leader and his or her inspiring ideas. Depression: Autonomous individuals become dissatisfied with their lives when they feel they have not fulfilled their unique human promise or when they have not lived up to the greatness they expect of themselves. Loss of courage as well as loss of a sense of self-agency and power can become great stressors. When using defenses, healthy Autonomous persons use mostly mature ones such as suppression, altruism, humor, and reframing. When they use less mature defenses, they may realize it as momentary fallback. They may therefore be able to see this behavior as context-dependent and are able to forgive themselves and move on. However, when they think they have failed in their precious life work and mission, they can despair and feel a deep sense loss of self. This shift from feeling in one’s full power to feeling no longer needed is especially common when Strategists approach retirement. There has been much ongoing gratification in being successful in their métier, in having raised a family (whether as a personal one, as a thought leader, or as a leader of an enterprise), and in feeling one has made a difference in the world. The question of one’s worth in one’s older, less engaged years looms large. Did one get the rewards and appreciation one was hoping for and if so, will it remain? How does one relax and trust that the next generation will reign as well and as consciously and learn from their mistakes along the way? One way of dealing with these questions is to take on the role of mentor or steward of younger leaders or an organization. When less well navigated, the perceived lack of engagement with others and/or the lack of a sense of being as loved and admired as one expected, can lead to sadness or even bitterness. Ideally, the sense of disappointment can be mitigated with self-compassion and an understanding of life’s whole trajectory – with its inevitable ups and downs, triumphs and losses, and with its beginning, middle and end. Interpersonal style: One takes responsibility for relationships while also requiring autonomy and personal space. Relationships are seen in terms of inevitable mutual interdependence. One can tolerate and appreciate others’ autonomy and their different solutions to conflict. Non-hostile, existential humor is beginning to be available in tense situations. Cognitive level:Conscious preoccupation: Strategists are concerned with self-actualization, self-fulfillment, and legacy issues. They are interested in the psychology of self and coming to terms with their preferences and conflicting needs . Chief anxiety: a) not to fulfill one’s personal potential, b) not to self-actualize, c) not to live up to or neglect those global principles of justice, tolerance etc. one holds dear above any others, and d) loss of courage. Defenses: Mostly mature ones: suppression, positive reframing, altruism, and non hostile humor When using less mature defenses, one can be forgiving and understanding towards the ego Representatives: Charismatic individuals who are ready for personal sacrifice in order to defend through personal example the moral principles they believe in. Visionary leaders with the capacity to see how systems interrelate and are aware of the long-term implications of their choices. Language clues: Autonomous persons use a complex, flexible syntax; with a wide array of topics and concerns. They try to do justice to the complexity of life in their verbal expressions. They try to present a coherent exposition of their thinking and themselves. They use differentiated psychological vocabulary and understand circular causality in human relations. “Authenticity, evolution, transformation, higher principles, life purpose, authenticity and self-fulfillment” are among favored concepts. “Both/and” as well as “either/or” thinking is used in combination or alone depending on the context. Source: cook-greuter.com
  16. Self-Actualization & the History of Management Key Points: • Myers Briggs is the most famous and widely used method of personality typing. º We take in information in one of two ways. Through sensing (S), or through intuition (N). We process that information through thinking (T) or through feeling (F). º Development can be traced along the following combinations of these personality types. a. SF (Sensing/Feeling): Gross motor skills. The emphasis is on strength, endurance, and physical attributes. As a society, we first evolved as hunter gatherers that relied on the prowess of the hunter. With the exception of professional athletes, the modern day embodiment of these characteristics, tend to be lower paid wage earners in the manual labor field. b. ST (Sensing/Thinking): The next thing to develop is fine motor skills. Hand eye coordination, typified in artisans, craftsmen. The neurosurgeon being an example. Society tends to reward these people with more money. c. NF (Intuition/Feeling): Verbal skills. Has a higher developed ability to communicate with others, express themselves, and read emotions. They tend to be caregivers, hippies, and the financial outlier being the singer and performer. d. NT (Intuition/Thinking) Analytic/Synthetic construction. This is the last thing to develop. These skills allow us to see and move into the future. Abstract thinking. Philosophers. • Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. º Maslow was a friend of Clare Graves. º Postulated that humans have a fews basic needs and that our focus goes at fulfilling these needs in order. a. Survival. Includes food shelter etc. and anything that threatens that survival. º A power mode, in which we are powerless, and in a state of struggle. Concerned with the present. b. Safety and Security. Security from going back to survival mode. º Usually about one paycheck to the next. More control of your environment is obtained. c. Love, Affection, and Belonging. Once security is met, relationships are the next priority. º Time frames extend to the seasons. d. Ego and Self-esteem. Creativity, human expression. º Time frames envelop careers, and extend 20-30 years. e. Self-Actualization. Actualizing certain potentialities within one’s self. º It is a lifetime experience. Never ending experience. f. Self-Transformation. A state beyond Self-Actualization. º Transcends time. • What would it mean for you to be self-actualized? º Maslow describes self-actualization by the following, highly interpretable characteristics: a. Superior perception of reality. b. An increased acceptance of self, others, and nature. c. Increased spontaneity. d. Increase in problem centering. e. Increased detachment and privacy. f. Increased autonomy and resistance to inculturation. g. Greater freshness and appreciation of emotional reaction. h. Higher frequency of peak experiences. i. Increased identification with the human species. j. Improved interpersonal relations. k. More democratic character structure. l. A greatly increased creativeness. m.Certain changes in the value system. • Mechanistic model of Management. º The view that a system is like a machine, and the people like machine parts. If a part is faulty or inefficient, it is simply replaced. • Organic model of Management. º Growth the primary focus of business. º The people in organizations need to be looked after and developed. • Social System model. º Organizations are made up of employees, customers, and suppliers, and it existed in a culture and a society and should have a responsibility to that society. º The needs of the employees and the customers should be attended to. • Transitions. • In order to move on, a number of conditions must be in place. º You need to have some idea of what the next level looks like. º Contradictions in your current model arise. • It’s important to transcend and INCLUDE. Everything that came before is not useless when moving to a new level, and a common mistake is to abandon everything.
  17. @Ether Haha yes, it's me. I love the art of transformation! @egoeimai @Charlotte Thank you both, you're very kind!!! @egoeimai I was a professional makeup artist for a few years, a while back. SFX was definitely one of the most enjoyable parts of the job. I was mainly self taught but I had a year or so of 'distance training'. Your hibiscus drawing is lovely, by the way. The shading is very good. Have you been drawing long? You seem to doubt your talent <3 @Natasha Your flowers are beautiful! That must have taken some serious patience.
  18. Learn The Keys To Development From Master Map of Success Seminar By Eben Pagan Key points: • There is a danger with having horizontal categories. Having a through explanation of our behavior can in turn, limit it, and lead to an excuse to behave in less than ideal ways. • In the vertical typology, you climb the ladder in stages. • Structure, Level, Wave. • Structure indicates that each stage has a holistic pattern which blends all of its elements into a structured whole. • Level means these patterns tend to unfold in a relational sequence with each senior wave transcending but including its junior. • Wave indicates that these levels are fluid and flowing affairs. • Change occurs simultaneously in four dimensions. • When making a map of behavior you can study the individual, the group, the inside behavior or the external behavior. • Management by objective. Quantifying from the outside efficiency and productivity. • System view. If you have a problem, it’s in the system. It won’t matter how good the people are if the system is flawed. • Cultural view. Edgar Shine said “Culture is the shared tacit assumptions of a group. That it is learned in coping with external tasks and dealing with internal relationships. Although culture manifests itself in overt behavior, rituals, artifacts, climate, and expressed values, its essence is the shared tacit assumptions. As a responsible leader you must be aware of these assumptions and manage them or they will manage you. • Personality view. The view that emotional cognizance is twice as important as cognitive ability Being able to calibrate your own emotions. Control your own emotions. Being able to read other people’s emotions. Being able to influence other people’s emotions. Tracing evolution in its four quadrants. 1) Objective Consciousness. • Facts, Brain, Simple Location. 2) Inter-Objective Consciousness. • Society, Social structures, Modes of techno-economic production. 3) Inter-subjective Consciousness. • Culture, Group meaning, Mutual understanding. 4) Subjective Consciousness. • Mind, Individual awareness, Self. • A common drawback to each of the maps is ignoring the other branches. • Evaluating claims in each of the four quadrants. 1) Truth. 2) Functional fit / Ecology. 3) Justness / Cultural fit. 4) Truthfulness. • We live in these value systems or holons (whole parts), and through evolution everything is constantly changing. • In this program we will be focusing on deep structure and the elements that drive change. • Development Happens. From physical, to emotional, to intellectual. Unique to humans is the fact that we can develop ourselves. • Master Key To Development: Contemplation. Reflection. “Going meta”. º Contemplation is the key to transformation. • Previous levels are integral to the development of the next level. They are used as the cornerstone of the next level. • Triune Brain. 1) Reptilian Brain: Responsible for territory, space, fight or flight response. 2) Emotional/Mammalian Brain: Emotional center, love. 3) Logical Brain: In charge of logic, reason, abstract thinking. • There is always a further. No matter how much you develop, learn, evolve, there is always more to go. • It is difficult to understand the other levels because you will see them through the filter of your own filter. º Looking at the behavior of the other levels through your own filter makes it appear to be either criminal or insane! • Pre-conventional, Conventional, and Post-conventional.
  19. Eben Pagan Course Master map of Success Thing don't get better by chance, they get better by change. Thing to change you have to change. Think about word " Transform". Master key to development. It's master key to master map. This is one concept or idea you can used from which level you are at to the next level. The key is "Contemplation", "Reflection", "thinking about something." "Objectify your demons"-Ken wilber Which means turn your demons into a object. So you can step outside and look out from here. Because when you inside of it you just reacting, responding and then they hitting you. You can't see that, it just a process. When you outside and then you think about them, they become not so terrible. Contemplation is the key to transformation . In order to understand human development. We sort with matter and then we go into life and then we go Evolution, Growth and Development Key point: The key to change is becoming NOT ME. You must change yourself. • Change is not random. It follows patterns, and Wyatt will give you the map to change over the course of the program. • Two main concepts for today, the universe and everything in it evolves. • Change is not arbitrary, it happens in stages/pattern. 1. We can not resolve the problems of our existence at the same level of thinking that created them - Albert Einstein. • The Master Maps will give you a key to all conflict and disagreement. • Transformation: It’s a process. Going beyond your current form. • It has three main aspect. 1) Letting Go of the Old (beliefs). 2) Having a Path to the new. 3) Including, incorporating, and integrating everything that's come before. • We reach a point in our lives when we realize the way we are doing things will not get us the things that we want. • Brief overview of the Graves Model. EXERCISE: The Major Transformations in Life • Graves was a contemporary of Abraham Maslow. Graves was an empirical researcher his whole life. He was the first to combine many of the developmental models and added his own observations as well. • In this program will also be studying some of the theories by Ken Wilbur. Began career as a transpersonal psychologist. Transpersonal psychology is founded upon the principle that human development moves through the following stages: • Matter, life, Mind, should, and spirit. • Wilbur had the ability to change states, and retain consciousness through different states, including sleep in scientifically measurable ways. • Evolution occurs in stages, and one cannot skip a stage to get to the next. • Wilbur suggests that evolution occurs in 4 stages or tetra-evolution. • Brief introduction to Typologies. • There are two types: Horizontal and vertical. Horizontal typologies are structured around the idea that people fit into certain categories. • Vertical says we go through various stages, waves, or levels. • The most common are the Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram
  20. So, I feel calm ALL the time. I must have some deep transformation because I no longer feel agitated or depressed on the daily. No suffering, just calmness. But here is the trick, I dropped the anti depressants but Im still under their effect. No side effects, just the effect of numbness. I still have thoughts but no thoughts that create suffering, could it be Im at inner peace? Could someone be it with thoughts?
  21. If you can try to feel what it is to not feel, and go deeply into that experience then you have an opportunity for transformation more powerful than any psychedelic can offer you. It's a fascinating and exciting opportunity.
  22. Yeah But when He came down down in the flesh, God the Son, He didn't condone the sin. His whole message was to bring us back to the bottom line, "Love the Lord your God, and Love you neighbor as yourself Oh boy lol Please keep in mind that I am no expert here, I can only speak off of what I know, feel, an believe First, I already have agreed in my other posts that Life requires transformation. We can't just stick with one thing, what you believe today can't be what you will believe in 10 years because, hopefully, you will have learned , more at that point. I can't speak for why or what Jews believe. I wasn't there, I can only base my beliefs off of what I learn and feel. What I read one was that the reason they found it hard to believe was because, at the time, they were under hard ruler ship (like many times in the past) and when they heard the prophecies of the coming of The Messiah, they took the whole "King on Earth", "He shall bring the kingdom of God down to Earth and rule over it all" stuff as a literal thing, and when He revealed Himself as this humble carpenter that's whole mission was to spread the Word of God and Love, they were disappointed and hurt. Makes some sense, but again, I wasn't there so I won't try to say "this is what happened". I already gave my belief on this in my previous post lol We believe in the Trinity, Three in one. Now, I am not 100% sure if my way of viewing this is the way most Christians view it, but I see it as Three separate parts, with their own functions and jobs in the Divine plan, but all part of the same overall "greater power". Although, I am still open to that viewpoint changing in the future as I learn more. God the Father I guess this is the one most think of as the "main one". This is the part of the trinity that was responsible for the Creation of all things. Whether you believe it was the way it was written in the Bible, or you believe in the Big Bang or Evolution, we believe God the Father did it. This part does not know sin and cannot "look upon it". In the Old Testament, it was required for the Jewish people to offer up a blood sacrifice for the payment of their sin I guess you could consider this a characteristic of the "ego"), because our sin is too great for us to take away on our own, we had to offer something up. "For the wages of sin is death..." Romans 6:23 but He wanted to have a real connection and relationship with us, like He did "in the beginning" so he sent: God the Son "...but the gift of God is eternal life, through Christ Jesus our Lord" Romans 6:23 This parts job was to come down as God in the flesh, to live a human life, while spreading the true message of God, Love. He was not all God come down, or all human, nor was he a demigod (half human, half god). He was all God come down in all flesh. He was just as much God as human, so He knew everything that was going to happen and everything the He needed to do, but He still had to fight with His flesh. This part of the Trinity did not just come into existence at the Virgin birth. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God" John 1:1 Jesus is considered the "Word" to us because He is the physical Word of God come down, just for us. He was there since the beginning through it all. Now, Jesus had to suffer. It is stated through out the Bible that His purpose was to come and spread the news, that we may spread it to the ends of the earth. He also had to die. Once Jesus paid our debt for sin, "death", there was no more need for blood sacrifices. He was the ultimate and final blood sacrifice. And with Him going through all of the needless disrespect and unjustified torture, because He broke no laws (even Pilot "washes his hands of this mess because he couldn't see what He did wrong). He experienced the absolute worst parts of the human nature, and still loved us enough to beg the Father's forgiveness for them. Now, when you accept Jesus as your Savior, you will receive: God the Holy Spirit This is the part of the Trinity that lives insides us and guides us to love and follow God's Plan. This does not save us from temptation or turn us into perfection like God. This is the part that gives us our conviction of sin and our fire for the glory of God. This part was also in the beginning: "The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters." Geneses 1:2 I'm not sure what else I can add without repeating myself lol but please feel free to keep asking anything you want. I do apologize for the long ass post and the delayed response
  23. There are countless ways to meditate, but only 1 takes a person to the deepest states of Spiritual Enlightenment. Let the channeled Higher Self Consciousness guide you to your deepest Truth Consciousness Bliss state. Since the beginning of human history, meditation has been the most popular method that practiced to give a person deeper knowledge of themselves and reality. Meditation opens up a person's mind for self-examination and personal transformation. Meditation removes stress, anxiety, fear and all undesirable emotions. Meditation creates peace and happiness. The final goal of meditation is direct experience of one's Eternal Self and God Consciousness. Meditation creates so many powerful benefits. But which meditation method should a person practice for the deepest states of Spiritual Enlightenment to be reached? This Channel Higher Self videos features a channeled teaching from the interdimensional Higher Self Consciousness. You will learn how to correctly meditate. Instruction is given for spiritual students new to meditation. The entire path of meditation is examined and discussed. Many different popular meditation methods are examined and their shortcomings identified. Ultimately one meditation method is chosen to be the single most effective method of meditation for God Consciousness Self Realization. We live in the information age, where too much information is available to us. Self-proclaimed experts and self-determined gurus are teaching methods that will not lead to genuine Spiritual Enlightenment, but instead will create confusion, suffering and a stronger ego structure. The truth is very simple and ever-present. Let this direct, precise and clear Higher Self video teaching help you practice meditation correctly and effectively. May you achieve genuine Spiritual Enlightenment, Self-Realization, and God Consciousness within yourself. -Lincol Gergar
  24. It you christian conditioning that you see things in this way. The Christian is conditioned in one way, the Hindu is conditioned in another way, but they are all conditioned. Life needs transformation, and transformation is a great work upon oneself. It is not a child's play, that: "Just believe in Jesus Christ, go on reading the Bible again and again, and you are saved." Saved from what? Saved from transformation! Jews never accepted Jesus, not even today. There was a reason why they crucified him: if on the cross he can manage to provoke God to help him, then they will be able to see whether he is the messiah or not , God will save him. If God is not even bothering about saving His own son on the cross, then what to say about others? And if Jesus cannot provoke God to save him, how can he provoke God to save others? The crucifixion was going to be a criterion. They had forced him to carry his own cross. Three times he fell on the way; the cross was too heavy. Jesus said that "those who have such faith can move mountains". He could not carry his own cross and he was trying to carry the crosses of the whole of humanity. On the cross he himself feels shaken up. He cries to God,"Have you forsaken me?" , because he sees that the crucifixion is happening and there is no miracle. And when he says, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will." that is surrender, but not true , with reluctance, just a face-saving device. Nothing is happening, all is finished. After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, said, “I thirst!” Now, this is the man who used to walk on water. This is the man who used to turn water into wine. He cannot even manage a glass of water , and he was able to change stones into bread! Why can't he change the air into water? Christians go on, all over the world, saving people. They don't even understand what it means to save. In the East, no religion has ever proclaimed that anybody can save you except yourself.
  25. Of course I have heard about deities ( your spelling is wrong) and multiple gods, the question is - In all pantheistic systems , why to use God and existence interchangeably . Well, to be fair pantheism is exactly the belief that God and existence are the same thing so that is why those two words are being used interchangeably, but I was talking about pantheistic systems like this actualized.org, whose sole agenda is not to convince people that God is not the christian God but existence (which is the agenda of pantheism) but the sole purpose of actualized.org is to show and make understand the true nature of reality, and the non-material core of reality. In all this picture, why to speak of it as God? Why not just stick with nothingeness? Why to say- God is existence? That is not a useful sentence, as it only describes the nature of God , but we are not interested in God, we are interested in the nature of reality. The useful sentence is- Existence is nothingness. Existence is immateriality, consciousness. The goal of actualized.org is not to realize God (as it is in no way a religious organization that believes in God) , it's goal is to realize the true nature of existence so as to bring about a radical positive transformation in an individual's life which allows him to live an extraordinary life (which is what it's true goal is). Secondly, I asked - IF existence is god, why to call God God and not call God existence (which as I have already said , I was talking in the context of pantheistic system) and you said because there are multiple gods?Seriously? Because there ARE multiple gods, god is called god? So it is obvious? Well yes it is obvious IF just like you I was also believing that there ARE multiple Gods, but what is fascinating is how you cannot see that here in actualized.org, most people are not believers in the existence of multiple gods, most are believer in god= existence, so why do you think that just like you everyone is a believer in multiple gods (specially in this place)? Yes it would be obvious that God is called God if people believed in MULTIPLE gods ( let alone ONE), but how is it not obvious to you that here in actualized.org most people do not hold that belief? 1st question to you - Do you believe that multiple gods exist? Why? Second question - If yes, what the hell are you doing here if you don't even know the basic premise that this website is founded upon?