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The few times I have had an openness let's say almost total, my realization is that it is completely impersonal, completely free and completely alive and unlimited, and the fact of being impersonal has made me laugh for 5 minutes , not because of something funny, but because of the total freedom of the unfathomable depth that lives. This is not thinkable, whoever thinks it is limited, the mind cannot. and the phrase: I am God creating reality, is wrong

Spiritual Enlightenment - The Most SHOCKING Truth You'll Ever Hear https://youtu.be/Bsyplaii9p4 Video Purpose and Emotional Warning: Leo cautions that the video will address an advanced and critical truth he has discovered which can lead to emotional distress such as anger, depression, and confusion due to its profundity and obscurity. Rarity and Importance of the Truth: He asserts that this truth is understood by an extremely small fraction of the population yet is fundamental to happiness and well-being, emphasizing the truth's practical significance. Requirement for Nuanced Understanding and Open-Mindedness: Leo explains that society and education often fail to prepare us for recognizing subtle truths, which requires extraordinary open-mindedness and self-honesty. An Experiment as an Analogy: To illustrate how certain truths can be hidden in plain sight, Leo guides viewers through an optical illusion experiment to demonstrate that our perception can be altered even when the facts remain unchanged. Image 1 Concept of Incommunicable Truth: Leo introduces the idea that some truths cannot be communicated through conventional systems of language and thought, which might have inherent blind spots preventing comprehension. Blind Spots in the Psyche's Design: He speculates that the formation of our psyche itself is based on certain fictional or false foundational elements that create blind spots, influencing our perception of reality. The Psyche's Protection Mechanism: The video details that the psyche defends its structure and the pursuit of truth necessitates dismantling this structure, which can be emotionally unsettling and fear-inducing. Challenging Established Reality Models: Leo acknowledges that confronting one's lifetime of built models of reality can be terrifying and the dissolution of these models is part of the truth discovery process. Journey to Discover Truth: Leo emphasizes that the truth he speaks of can only be realized through a personal empirical journey requiring independent exploration and not through simple means like watching a video. Approach for Rational Minds: The video targets rational and scientifically-minded individuals, reassuring them that the journey does not involve mysticism or New Age beliefs but is rooted in self-reliance and empirical investigation. Need for a Unique Investigation Process: Leo notes that the process for investigating spiritual enlightenment is novel and requires a different mindset than academic research or standard spiritual practices. Ultimate Open-Mindedness and Embracing Paradox: He states that journeying towards this truth demands an extreme level of open-mindedness, willingness to hold paradoxical ideas, a genuine desire for truth, and a balance of objectivity and healthy skepticism. Psychological Tricky of the Psyche: In an effort to reveal the truth, Leo warns viewers to be conscious of the psychological manipulation their psyche may employ to prevent them from recognizing the truth, reinforcing the importance of self-awareness throughout the investigation. Emotional Reaction to Truth: Leo instructs viewers to closely observe any emotional reactions that may arise upon hearing the truth he is about to share, emphasizing the importance of merely observing these reactions without judgment. Concept of "You": He guides viewers to become acutely aware of the present moment and their sense of existing within it, urging them to connect deeply with the sensation of being the experiencer of life. Revelation of Illusion: Leo reveals that the fundamental feeling of being an experiencer, or the 'you' at the center of existence, is an illusion and does not exist in physical reality. Accepting the Implausible Truth: He acknowledges the difficulty for viewers in believing this truth, distinguishing between accepting it as a belief and having a direct experience of it. Non-Existence of the Perceiver: Leo presents the idea that there is no entity actually perceiving the world, including one's own hand; rather, what exists are perceptions by themselves without a perceiver. Ownership, Perception, Matter - Illusions: He explains that the sense of ownership over body, thoughts, and perceptions is fictitious, as is the distinction between perception and physical matter. Reality is described as a non-localized field of awareness, rather than as a collection of discrete objects perceived by an individual. Impersonal Nature of Life: Spiritual enlightenment is said to reveal the completely impersonal and neutral nature of life, suggesting that personal attachments and beliefs are ultimately constructs. The Illusion of Free Will: Leo states that the control we feel we have over our actions, decisions, and bodily functions is part of the illusion; this control is not exerted by any internal entity. Dismantling the Construct of the Psyche: To truly grasp this truth, one's psyche and its constructs must dissolve, leaving only raw reality which is not separate from oneself. The True Self Paradox: Leo describes the 'true self' as a paradox, being both nothing and everything, indicating that this can only be truly understood through experience, not through belief or faith. Direct Empirical Investigation: He concludes by emphasizing that spiritual enlightenment and this ultimate truth cannot be taken on belief but must be discovered through personal empirical investigation. Reality Minus Personal Additions: Reality is as it is without the influence of personal perceptions, therefore understanding reality requires the subtraction of the personal self. Emotional Reactions as Indicators: Leo encourages viewers to be mindful of their emotional reactions to his words, seeing them as indicators of understanding and resistance within the psyche. The Outrage of Literal Truth: He presents the idea that the truth he has shared is outrageous not because it is embellished, but because it is literal, challenging the comfort of metaphoric interpretation often found in spiritual texts. Deception by the Communication System: Leo suggests that viewers' objections and internal counter-arguments are evidence of a flawed communication system within the psyche that creates blind spots. Questioning the 'You' at the Center: The central assumption being questioned is the notion that each individual is at the center of their universe, a fallacy similar to the ancient belief in an Earth-centered cosmos. The Inner Voice's Truthfulness: Leo points out that the subtle voice within, which we use to label and define reality, might not be truthful but arbitrary, thus distorting our perception of reality. Layers of Stories Defining Reality: He argues that what we believe to be 'true' stories about reality are actually just layers of narratives validating each other, leading to a skewed conceptualization of what is real. Stripping away layers to Uncover Reality: The process of spiritual enlightenment involves stripping away layers of conceptualized reality to reveal the raw, undistorted truth devoid of the self. Necker Cube Optical Illusion: Leo uses the Necker Cube optical illusion to symbolize the importance of perspective in understanding reality, showing that a change in perception can significantly alter the experience of an unchanging image. Image 2 Misattributed Semantics: He clarifies that the reinterpretation of reality is not just an argument of semantics but has real implications for suffering and trauma in life, stemming from the false sense of self. Societal Unawareness and Distractions: Leo reasons that society's focus on distractions, groupthink, and cultural conditioning prevents most people from recognizing and discussing the profound truth about self-awareness. Religion's Original Intention and Distortion: He acknowledges that while religions were meant to convey spiritual truths, they have distorted the message, leading people to be religious without truly understanding the core truth. Communication as Part of the Psyche: Leo stresses that communication inherently presumes that its conveyed stories are true, which blinds us to the possibility that communication could be an empty shell of arbitrary labels. Proof Beyond Communication: Lastly, Leo addresses the demand for proof, highlighting that due to the nature of the psyche and communication, traditional proof might not capture the essence of the truth he is presenting. Misconceptions about Scientific Proof: Leo emphasizes that people often seek external scientific proof as a defense mechanism when facing challenging ideas about self and consciousness, which are inherently internal experiences. Internal vs. External Investigation: He articulates that science focuses on external metrics such as quantities and distances, which are not applicable to the internal subjective phenomena that he is discussing. Consciousness and Materialism: Leo points out that science struggles to explain the relationship between matter, energy, and consciousness. He introduces the concept of qualia, or subjective experience, which science has yet to adequately address. Empirical Investigation of Self: Leo urges viewers to conduct personal empirical investigations into their own selves, as this cannot be done by an external party. Inherent Difficulty in Understanding: The difficulty in grasping Leo's message stems from the existence of a self that needs to dissolve for true understanding to occur, a concept that many spiritual traditions refer to as "ego death." Deep Self-Honesty Requirement: Leo argues that self-honesty is critical in recognizing the inherent dishonesty or unconsciousness of self, necessary to realize that the self does not exist. Resistance to Unpleasant Truths: Communications about such profound truths face resistance because they are nuanced, unappealing, and often result in defensive emotional reactions from individuals. Society's Preference for Low-Consciousness Content: He criticizes society's tendency to propagate low-conscious content like fast food and simple entertainment, which hampers the spread of complex, uncomfortable truths. Time Investment for Truth: Leo specifies that a significant time investment, potentially thousands of hours, is required for individuals to fully grasp the truth he is discussing through their personal investigations. Rewards of Spiritual Work: Despite the challenges, Leo lists several rewards of undertaking this spiritual work, including access to ultimate truth, lasting happiness, freedom from self-image issues, emotional mastery, a true understanding of religion, and the elimination of the fear of death. Necessity of Personal Investigation: Leo reiterates the need for personal investigation and warns against seeking external validation or proof from the scientific community, as the journey to understanding is deeply internal and personal. Value of Knowing the Truth: Leo asserts that understanding the truth about spiritual enlightenment is intrinsically rewarding, regardless of any immediate impact on one's life. He identifies concerns about life becoming miserable as a product of the ego, which is focused on feeling good. Ultimate Pleasure Post-Enlightenment: He suggests that the greatest pleasure in life is found after enlightenment, where worries, frustrations, and the incessant 'rat race' cease, as the concept of 'self' is dissolved. Infinitesimal Success Rate: Leo acknowledges that exceedingly few people will achieve the rewards of enlightenment due to fear and resistance to the challenging process involved. Exclusive Path to Rewards: He emphasizes that spiritual enlightenment is the singular means to attain these rewards, dismissing other avenues as ineffective in providing true happiness and understanding. Disturbance as Awareness Catalyst: The purpose of the video, according to Leo, is to create a disturbance within viewers' minds, drawing attention to the importance of a serious and self-honest investigation into their true nature. Importance of Post-Video Reflection: Leo encourages viewers to seriously consider the content and not become distracted by other aspects of life, as this tendency often leads to people forgetting about their pursuit of spiritual truth. Recognition of Emotional Reactions: He points out that viewers' emotional responses to the video provide evidence of the ego's deception and are an essential aspect of the proof they seek about the nature of their existence. Potential Dangers Following the Video: Leo highlights three dangers one might encounter after watching the video: outright rejection, misinterpretation as belief rather than insight, and being sidetracked by life's distractions. Tentative Hypothesis Approach: Viewers are advised to treat the content as a hypothesis and undertake their own empirical and investigative work to understand the truth, rather than simply believing or dismissing it. Process of Ego Dismantling: He suggests that upcoming videos will guide viewers on how to undertake the process, which involves deconstructing ego and beliefs, leading to an eventual surrender and recognition of truth. Excitement for the Journey: Leo expresses his passion for spiritual self-investigation, despite emotional hardships, and looks forward to sharing his insights and practical techniques to aid viewers in their journey. Call to Action: Leo concludes by encouraging viewers to engage with his content by signing up for his newsletter, sharing the video, and preparing for a metaphorical 'marathon' towards spiritual enlightenment. He promises to provide further guidance and support through his advanced upcoming videos. Petrificus Totalus

If you laugh, someone will shout at you. If you have interesting ideas, you're told to shut up. If you wanna start something, you're told to give up because others have tried. If you wanna relax, people tell you about their drama. If you wanna solve a problem, they'll overwhelm you with buts. If you wanna immerse yourself in an activity, someone will disrupt it and question its purpose. If you happen to be late, the boss will shout at you until you look distressed. If you're not stressed in general, people will take offense. If you wanna travel, people will tell you to stop. If you wanna leave toxic relationships or work, they'll tell you you're ungrateful. If you wanna study science, they'll tell you you're too stupid for that. If you wanna go for a walk, they'll tell you it's too cold. If you wanna try yoga, they'll call you a hippie. If you're successful, they'll resent you. If you're poor, they'll tell you to get your shit together. If you lose, they'll make fun of you. If you win, they'll spread rumors about you. If you wanna make a change, they'll call you a liberal. If you don't, they'll call you conservative. If the change is too big, you're a radical. Else a fundamentalist. It's legal to kill your organs with cigarettes, it's legal to numb yourself and kill your brain and relationships on alcohol. Psychedelics create a movement of love and peace, so clearly since happiness is illegal, you gotta outlaw that. Too disruptive. Can't have people being all lovey-dovey, better to put them in the prison–industrial complex for being too threatening with their happiness. You have to be serious, wear a suit, build up at least 20 million simulations of sophisticated lies to appear sane in society. You get homeostatically reassimilated at every turn. You get re-ego-ated at every turn, you get fed the same fearmongering at every turn. You are expected to work useless robotic jobs to earn impersonal cash that you're expected to spend on the same useless overpriced things and never try anything else. The thing we have to be conscious of is the reason why we seek spirituality, because we're not it. Why? Because we're being forcefully reintegrated through the social matrix at every turn. So we just have to account for all of that. That's not hard, the problem is that our mind tries to justify and take sides, believe in consensus, rationalize that it's appropriate. And then it's easy to lose oneself in it, trying to work from within the same system for something that it is designed to take away. Happiness is a currency, love is a currency. Teachings are disruptive, because we're intending to cheat the system and rewrite value.

The problem is, you're relying on the world beyond your control, but that world sucks. It sucks as long as it's out of tune with your needs. But it never cared about our needs. And what you yearn for most deeply is only ever based on what's inside your heart. The world is made of countless forms, and you've learned to yearn for those you lost. Being comforted feels good but can you see how impersonal that process is? We know nothing about you, not the trillion things that define you. Only you know. Grief and feel into the meaning you lost. And then take care of yourself, don't repress it.

What I really like about Taoism is that they don't have this silly idea of a personal creator God that is characteristic of all Abrahamic religions (and which of course has left its indelible imprint on the way that God is being conceptualized even in modern Western spirituality) but rather view the Tao as a purely impersonal force that cannot be grasped or described in any way (and has nothing to do with the concept of "you"). It's a decidedly naturalistic and down to earth philosophy, without all of the airy-fairy fluff that us poor heirs of Christianity are burdened with. And of course, the Yin Yang symbol is the perfect encapsulation of reality... the undivided whole becoming visible (=> experienceable) through apparent division. It really doesn't get any more precise than that.

Sure. Ken Wilber said in the Interview-Series "Cosmic Consciousness" to Tami Simon that nobody on the planet is resting 24/7 in his True Nondual Being, enlightened or not. When True Reality clouds over with remaining ignorance, it is a hint from Reality which parts of the separate self are not yet seen through and still have the potential to "cloud" awakened Nonduality/Awareness. The question is then: Does one know ones True Being/Nature (impersonal enlightenment), and can one re-establish that nondual infinite awakened state immediately by just reaching out? Peak to Plateau to permanent. The deciding shift is realizing what that True Being really is. That gives to possibility to re-establish that by just "reaching out".

@Javfly33 As Cetus writes: If you truly are the awake Infinite Totality on a deep identity level (Full Enlightenment into Absolute Reality itself, preferably as stable as possible in daily life, Peak to plateau to permanent), Infinite Reality itself.... would you resist yourself? Of course not. Remaining suffering/resistance shows where the separation from the Totality (aka separate-self/separation-elements of the ego) are still well and alive playing their game: a) desiring an experience and not getting it and suffering/resisting while doing that, or b) wanting an un-pleasurable experience to go away, and suffering/resisting that that is not happening/appearing. It is a hint of God/Reality (so to say) to highlight certain not yet enlightened elements of the mindstream, remaining false identities of something separate still emerging. To be precise: God/True You/Truth/Reality CONTAINS the (illusionary or mere appearing) appearance/arising of suffering/resistance. The ego or mind IS an appearance, and very often IS the suffering/resistance (when resisting what is). Yet, it is AS real (or unreal) as every other experience/arising/appearance. So very real enough to cause appearing/arising suffering/resisting in a not fully enlightened perspective/being. The sentient awareness is not suffering, it contains as appearance/arising the suffering. "The" sentient awareness is totally empty and impersonal, and yet "it" is also all that arises - nondual and infinite. "It" can never be located, it is the Totality seeing itself in a nondual way, without any separate anything pulling the nondual unity apart into duality. That awakened nondual enlightened state alone (which is also the true natural state btw. if no illusion is appearing/arising in it) is free of suffering/resistance. Resistance/suffering (another word for separate-self/separate ego arisings) ends this awakened nondual state faster than one can say "duality". That is not only my claim, but the claim of many humans that have realized their True Identity, over all ages, cultures, places, and found freedom from resisting/suffering/self-contracting.... But to truly understand and realize that, a big clap of the one hand is necessary. You practice, which is what counts. So, bon voyage.... Selling Water by the River PS: Back from vacation, and happy new year to everyone!

When you are ignorant of your nature as God it's not like you seize to be God. However, God is still deluding itself in the form of you as a human ego. Due to this, it would reform itself after physical death. God could reform itself as anything, depends on a lot of factors. Reincarnation is true and so is heaven and hell. Your 'soul' is simply this all pervading conciousness. Your soul is paradoxically entirely impersonal.

If you are able to exist, feed yourself, have clothes and a warm place to sleep then you are free and can be in love with the universe. Obligation is distraction. Attachment is illusory and inauthentic to your emotions and the nature of being. Love is only known to you in conditional fashion, your creativity, senses and feelings are in relation to your level of awareness, will and unobstructed action, the feeling to unconditional love to take and give unattached to any one thing but woven into the nature of experience itself only to be realized through openness and change of paradigm, mindset. Programming makes you a machine, impersonal and controlled by outside forces. The only forces controlling you are universal, they define your senses, experience and state of being. Everything else is a self-created delusion communicated by your environment in less or more direct ways all linking back to survival and assumed emotional comfort learned through correlation and behaviorism. But the mind is free, all limitations are imagined and self-imposed. Comfort and technology dull the senses, lifestyle intoxicates the body. But the body is strong and the mind is infinitely rewireable, obstacles are 99.999% mental. Preferences are an self-created illusion, being is fundamentally meaning and meaningless, everything else is a preference based on experience related to an assumed survival correlation and identified as preferable and the emotionally associated. Psychedelics make you in tune with yourself and sharpen your senses. The question is if you can handle and integrate the expansion of your senses, emotions and desires, the release of limitation, and being given free reign to reimagine and reexperience the world with ever less bliss and ever less self, putting focus from thinking, rationalizing, memorizing and obligating into being, experiencing, understanding and loving.

@Livingstone The world is filled with ego, which manifests itself through projection and ignorance. You don't need any degree, knowledge fills you with insights, but the only point of learning anything at all is to expand your perspective. Universities don't teach you any more than ChatGPT does, it's merely the game of degrees, diplomas, titles and certificates which self-perpetuates narrow thinking, specialized studies and the export of responsibility to authority. Society plays the game of validating certificates, but look at all the successful entrepreneurs, they're only where they are because they ditched this mindset and society tries to mimic them and fails because there never were any rules to it, they just did their own thing. Institutions slow you down to match their timeframe. You wait days to go and memorize some stupid speech that you can just watch right now on YouTube. It's either public knowledge, or if it's not, do you really want to participate in hiding knowledge away and monetizing it? Ideally, it'd be an environment of open thought, sharing and holistic interconnection through the lens of whatever is studied, group discussions, active participation, constructivist reimagining. Open thinking, active doing, immediate testing, passion, spirit, truth. But that's not what we see. Students are depressed, look at the suicide rates, look at what you're trying to do, you're trying to help but the elaborate means of getting there through all the bullshit diplomas to justify a human's ability to interact and help another human while outsourcing responsibility to some "professional intellectuals" is exactly what got us into this mess. Nobody can talk frankly anymore, everybody's distracted, people are referred to suicide watches, to group therapy, to some impersonal institutions, to fix problems that stem from being unable to interact with their own environment due to its nature. You and I are discouraged all our lives from sharing our thoughts, ideas, gaslight into inaction, blind trust in a system of consensus bullshitting, depressed and stopped from learning on our own and making our own decisions, constant second guessing, constant need to validate our thoughts with at least one more person sharing the sentiment, constant doubt and fear of getting things wrong and being shamed for it. The only way I got out of that were psychedelics that I started three months ago. The most valuable part of the psychedelic experience is to get fully in tune with yourself and to be able to experientially and emotionally feel that which you already know to be the case. To accept the truth and shed all doubt for the ego-game that it is. I had the same idea as you. I though, hmm what about psychology to help people? That I realized, it's a narrow focus, monetized profession, strict timetables, you'll be called crazy if you do overtime or want to help people outside of work because "you're not earning money doing it". It's so limiting, then I thought how can I do better? What do I even do? How do I help people? And I realized, people are everywhere, everyone's got their own unique problems. A person really just needs to vent and become in tune with their emotions, desires and thoughts. For the next two weeks, I spent a lot of time of Reddit, typing with people in awful situations, sharing insights, just talking about their life and hearing them out. It feels like I made their days better. Your goal is noble. But what I realized is that my drive was really out of needing that which I gave them myself, I never had anyone to help me and by helping them, I used them as a proxy to help myself. But I kept realizing how complex life is and how much there is to integrate and that I really need to work on myself. Because you can only help others up to the state of mind that you yourself are in.

Somebody wrote: Yes, I would love some guidance on how to get off on the world without going along with it. When you said that you are not addressing the kind of work that amounts to initiatory stages of provisional teachings of stopping and seeing in terms of carrying out discipline recognizing and discriminating habitual psychological patterns relative to sense-objects.… Which would have been my approach; so I'm floundering slightly. …being an entirely understandable predicament❤︎, because our ordinary perspective is programmed in this way through everyday ordinary conditioning. Enlightening perspective set forth by all the world's authentic teachings has to account for that which does not reference relative psychological postures, so the confusion felt by beginners is directly attributable to the fact that reality can only be seen in a gradual fashion after having slowly gained a sober stability in the nonposychological perspective, which has absolutely nothing to rely on in terms of instinctual and learned biases and inclinations based on personally created and consensually perpetuated mental distinctions. The nonpsychological (spiritual) perspective is the perspective of nonorigination, which sees its nonoriginated perpetual potential as naturally as can be, in terms of the world as situational (impersonal) relativity. So in this way, the relative has its enlightening aspect inherently so, without any such self-referential discriminatory element inclusive or abiding. In the knowledge of nonoriginated sameness within difference, one just rests in the unfolding presence as is without activating the discriminating mind. Bankei said, "Don't turn the Unborn into other states". Bodhidharma said, "Don't know". The Tao te Ching's opening verse elucidates the fact that there is no fixed path, therefore the perpetual has to be discovered for oneself at every turn, and it doesn't have to be pretty. Nevertheless, using the provisional as a handrail or ballet-barre is entirely appropriate. And when such an approach has proceeded effectively to the point where one begins to forget to perpetuate self-referencing pattern-awareness— this is because the processes of effective self-refinement are slowly dispersing the human mentality's suffocating atmosphere of its own specious identity in terms of a karmic existence. A luminous still presence can then abide as clarified space being one's reverted nonpsychological posture, whereby nothing to refine quickens without remainder. Mind is one, there are no two mentalities. Delusion ultimately expresses an unskillful use of mind, having long obscured its inherent enlightening potential. Sudden realization of one's essential nature is the result of such enlightening activity, not the cause of it. When you see your nature, you not only see that that has been your true identity all along, you know that ALL being is thus, before the first thought. When I say that I am not addressing the kind of work that amounts to initiatory stages of provisional teachings of stopping and seeing in terms of carrying out discipline to recognize and discriminate habitual psychological patterns relative to sense-objects, it means that what I am bringing up is relative to enlightening activity beyond the stage of personal self-refinement. This is entry into the inconceivable. We are all just this inconceivability. Inconceivability is your own mind. I have to admit that there is not much difference between stages (in fact, there are no stages to speak of in terms of reality). Just know that self-refinement in terms of gradual practice and gradual practice of enlightening being are one continuum. In the aftermath of the sudden, the emphasis of gradual practice is just a bit different, that's all. Since there is no difference in terms of enlightening being before or after the sudden, I speak of the perspective of selfless enlightening function in ordinary situations because when dealing directly with essence in terms of "turning the light around" spoken of in the Golden Flower teaching, there is no intermediary. This teaching is essentially no different than the subtle operation within suchness spoken of by Chan buddhism or the term "entering the Tao in reality" mentioned in the school of Complete Reality (Quanzhen). I can recommend a small manual which has passages discussing gradual practice leading up to and in the aftermath of the sudden called Minding Mind. It is translated by Thomas Cleary, the ISBN is 1-57062-004-0. this is a place… it is just where you are, not a property of intellect. Its expression is one's relationship with reality. Yes, knowledge is a place, yet who can say it has a location? ed note: change first word; typo, 5th paragraph

Take a look at this: You may see two persons, but this is the illusion. There is actually only One vase in the picture. You see, in this way, God is impersonal; beyond person-hood; a formless awareness. It isn't only about "I"... relieve yourself of this pressure so you may expand past the boundaries of what you think you are.

Another response… The thrust of this thread is following true desire arising from within one's situational vulnerability as a result of spontaneous accord with mutually arising conditions in order to carry out the subtle operation of enlightening being. The kind of work you are referring to involves various initiatory stages of provisional teaching relative to stopping and seeing by virtue of reformative discipline recognizing psychological patterns habitually clinging to sense-objects. What I am hoping to introduce here is conscious acceptance of whole being as-is in terms of a purity of desire that requires no action based on personal longing (or rejection)— only a selfless (that is, nonpsychologically motivated) response to situations based on potential itself. "Based on potential itself" means sensing in accord with reality, which is simply seeing without layering psychological projections onto pure sensual and intuitive perception. In this way, one one enters directly into opportunities continually arriving at the incipient well-spring of presence. Taoism calls this "resting in the highest good." Buddhism calls this the pedestal of awareness, or the pivot of awareness. On the surface, just this much is all a person can do— it is just the quality of impersonal objectivity, the functional perspective of enlightening being adapting to conditions according to the time and situation. The pivot of awareness, with no bias or inclination, is seeing suchness as is in terms of mutual response. "With no bias or inclination" doesn't predispose one in terms of a certain categorically "enlightened" manner of response according to conventional norms or propriety. Not at all. Here one is liberated from all manner of convention, being that opportune outrage may be perfectly suited to the occasion, yet— perhaps not from convention's consequences. Nevertheless, it is possible to carry out audaciously ruthless compassion spontaneously without selfish motivations of clinging or rejection. Just this comes into being by virtue of karmic awareness— that is, psychological momentum. One is essentially empty already. Emptiness isn't void. The emptiness of enlightening being is potential itself because selflessness is the sage's unity within the temporal. Everything as oneself is sagehood. When one is blind to egotism and possessiveness, one sees all sorts of striving come to an end. This is existence beyond karmic awareness. No longer expending energy on speculative relationships and their outcomes, adaptivity to conditions naturally gathers potential as unrefined elixir. This is selfless (enlightening) action beyond moralistic self-reprobation. It's just being natural. Enlightening activity has no motive to gather. Alchemy is just a description of enlightening reversion whereby situational karmic energy is set up to assume its potential. Such authentic practice is an "advance" mode of transformation within delusion for those whose potential is commensurate with the requirements. Whether or not one has yet gained the perspective that sudden enlightenment affords is immaterial. Why? The fact is, the vast majority of self-proclaimed "awakened" individuals are obviously unable to avail themselves of such activity. The truth is, the sudden is nothing more than a spontaneous, impersonal event. It is just the way it is and no one knows why. The gradual approach, whereby one learns to work with essence directly without intermediary, is already predisposed to such spontaneous results, allowing students the facility to meet the unforeseen challenges thrust upon anyone who happens to stumble into one's selfsame source of inconceivability. Chang Po-tuan, in his tome, Understanding Reality, wrote a thousand years ago, stating in the second verse: Let this quote serve as a warning to those who consider themselves "awakened" or else those conceiving spiritual aspiration. Such (self) refinement is both in terms of the psychological faculties as well as the nonpsychological function. Mind is one. It isn't that karma exists or not or that potential becomes real after it wasn't… after one sees essence, karma and potential are one sameness. Before people learn to see, they need applicable teachings commensurate with their development to deal with reality according to their level of virtuous accord with the Way in order to transcend the false and abide in the real. Before that development reaches a critical mass of energetic response whereby one actually can recognize the medicines, the teaching of alchemy has been left behind by prior illuminates to enable the wise to work with the polluted in order to realize the pure. When one practices the real in the heart of the false for a long time, the false reverts of itself and one experiences spiritual movement based on psychological stillness. There is nothing to understand. All processes are spontaneous. Just this is following the will of God without knowing it. When one sees, there is nothing whatsoever to know. Dealing with situations, one follows desire in order to introduce guidance, which, among other meanings, is a code-word for observing the obscure as it gradually assumes clarity. Desire is. It turns into wisdom with eyes that see the world as oneself. Understanding Reality by Chang Po-tuan ISBN 0-8248-1139-9 ed note: try to fix paragraphical anomallies… unsuccessfully, add ISBN of Understanding Reality

Continuing the PM response, introducing an alchemic description of advanced taoist self-refining practice… Alchemically speaking, following desire is "advancing the fire". Advancing the fire is like accepting Power's challenge to audition the potential of a new cycle which is preceded and entered into by one's silent illumination in the midst of ordinary situations. I say this to make it undisputably clear that authentic 24/7 meditation has absolutely nothing to do with formal sitting zazen practice. A veritable state of grace is the fire of silent illumination which is advanced, because before potential is seen, there is no advancing, only a subtle abiding at the site of incipient awareness. Once it is seen, it is advanced. Therefore, it is seeing itself which constitutes "advancing the fire." A wordless knowledge one endeavors as proof, in an actual situation without knowing the twists and turns the situation will inevitably engender, is what real vulnerability to (karmic) inevitability substantiates. From here on, it's like Jesus entering on a donkey amid palm fronds, and an unbending, selfless intent requiring sticking to the story line, and its fully played out inevitability (with the to-die-for cool ending). This is "passing through", in terms of transcending endless cycles entering the tao without remainder. I used the "Jesus" metaphor in endeavoring to emphasis the fact that any and all created cycles HAVE to end. The law of creation is one birth and one death. Jesus' dramatization of this fact is just evidence of how transcendence works in its midst, every time. Cycles come and go, while transcendence plays along without trying to be "different." Why? Because reality isn't different than delusion, it's just not created. Who knew? In real practice, one advances the fire simply because it is the time to do so. It's not one's desire to do so. Desire, per se, is essentially immaterial. The essential is in seeing alone. Alternately, when it is time to stop, one stops without aversion or conflicted emotional/psychological (karmic) momentum. Conversely, one follows desire when it arises. It's all about the timing. When one sees the line (relative to recognizing conditioned attachment to outcomes), one then stops advancing the fire. Advancing and withdrawing, one subtly follows the process, carefully operating the furnace of creation and watching over the cauldron containing the medicinal potential of fire and water to be refined into the elixir of immortality. In adapting to the potential of a new cycle, one "goes along" to see what reality is without projecting habitual psychological patterns onto the situation engendered by the volatile (unrefined) potential energy inherent in the newly arisen cycle of possibility fueled by created karmic energy (psychological momentum). Karmic energy is real (potential) energy mixed up as polluted (created) energy. Spiritual alchemy is a recondite process of recognizing the real by virtue of the false and absorbing the real by refining (clarifying) the "false." When one sees the real, it is by virtue of not acting on the false, though they are actually one and the same. Observing from the selfish perspective of the principal psychological agency, working with the unique natural essence of potential and karmic energy in subtle transcendent spiritual operation is an impossibility for rational discernment, because karma and the psychological perspective are already a self-perpetuating illusion. To say one follows desire without going over the line is to have already gotten rid of the tendency to employ the psychological function in exclusion of one's nonpsychological potential. Seeing itself is the essential point and means of enlightening activity (authentic practice) in the midst of everyday ordinary situations unbeknownst to anyone. Transcendent activity isn't done by the person— it is an impersonal response to inherent situational potential by virtue of immanent selfless knowledge. The open secret is that the world is not separate from the individual. A "sage" is one who knows this and proves this in actual affairs. The ancient taoist saying is "the world is the sage." To repeat, the world is not separate from the individual. This is the reality behind unified awareness actualizing oneself and potential without differentiating between self and other. Only those who can prove the world is not separate, by virtue of actual affairs, are those who see potential and adapt "selflessly" without perpetuating karmic energy in the course of adapting to situations. Seeing potential is the same as not acting on potential, inasmuch as seeing potential is already transcendent activity (obviating ego-awareness), therefore by seeing alone, one gathers (absorbs) potential for further refinement. It is all a matter of seeing karmic "things" as real potential. Why? Because that's what self-refining enlightening activity is. Harmonize with the secret natural process as such and you can become a wizard. Somehow, in the course of one's affair with Power, one gives the world what it wants (by following desire), without losing one's unified nonoriginated selfless self (by acting on potential in such a way as to perfectly match creation without projecting so much as a spark of ego-awareness). The word match has a very special connotation. For now, that is all I can say about it. Taoist alchemic tradition calls this subtlety stealing potential. It is really like this. The imagery of going into the dragon's or tiger's lair and stealing the jewel or pearl comes from the extremely ancient tradition of wizardry. Immortals, wizards, buddhas and enlightening beings are all getting away with their lives, over and over and over in the course of endless transformations. The terms are based on the reality. It is a stupendous secret. This is the development, activation, fruition and storage of inconceivable, real knowledge. Ordinary people don't know this, nor is it necessarily desirable that they do. So those with the aspiration to discover who they really are, do not deviate from operating on the level of ordinary people. That is, they accept their enlightening function exactly as an ordinary person in the midst of what ordinary people do, because ultimately, all people are the same, as they all function by virtue of Mind, which is essentially enlightenment. The world being the sage is so, because the sage knows perpetual nonoriginated reality by virtue of delusion is already perfect seamlessly undifferentiated unified awareness. That is what a sage sees. Such seeing is already your own mind right now. It's not good, or right~ it's just real. Such seeing is already naturally transcendent to boot. In seeing perfect seamlessly undifferentiated unified awareness by virtue of delusion (situational evolution), I hope it is obvious to those hung-up on emptiness, that such is not dependent on the Absolute (sudden realization), nor its multifarious anticipatory and post-operative mis-interpretations; the secret of Mind being entry into the inconceivable, is that enlightening activity is neither ordinary nor holy. Buddhism's teaching of suchness transcending karma by virtue of karma is called the Supreme Vehicle of buddhas, tathagatas and bodhisattvas. Suchness is just this "neither ordinary nor holy." Wizardry is recognizing the light hidden within desire, and following it in reverse (as potential). Worldlings follow desires as the light of their lives (Creation) in the normal course of delusional existence. The one gains immortality by riding on nonoriginated potential through endless karmic transformations in the course of events and the other accedes to endless cycles of birth and death, in this life, not to mention the next. ed note: add penultimate paragraph

You seem far more practical to me than anyone else on the forum. I enjoy you keeping us spiritual goners in check when we fall into what is essentially a k-hole, ranting about our solipsist paranoia of constructing everyone and everything and spouting equations without grounding I myself am going through a lot of input and integrating tons of psychedelic states and insights. Truly, words point to something, but a pointer needs to be experienced to be understood the context of and one's interpretation of what it means without the experience of what it is can purely be a delusion. Like trying to grasp what the color blue is without ever having seen it. It is only ever itself. Rational impersonal learning is messy, flawed, conceptual, impractical, inexperienced and perspectival. A thing is only what you know it to be and all feelings are an interpretation on top of reality based on some observed correlating tendencies. When people talk about life being a dream, they intuit that the ego they built up their entire life is arbitrary and an illusion, and they abstract that notion to the rest of reality. In a way, it is true. We're only ever making sense of qualia, but that's not what it feels like. Life is full of love, hate, meaning, fear, bliss, joy, sadness, and is infinitely personal. Dream and Reality dissolve and become one, it is just as imaginary as it is real, but it exists for sure.

so person a makes person b suffer and you would like person a to acknowledge the suffering they have caused truth is, you don't make another suffer they choose suffering as the reaction to how you acted if i insult you, you can feel grievance and pledge retaliation or you can feel pity that i am one more example of how hurt people look to hurt people everything that happens to me is impersonal arbitrary necessary efficacious unstoppable we need to stop feeling special and let everything happen to our and the world's best interests

I have another idea about how the cosmos works, but these ideas we have, even if they come from very clear insights, can always be misleading. What is not deceptive is realizing your true nature, but the structure of things, who knows. I believe that there is no puppeteer managing the show, but that reality is cyclical, and unifies and disintegrates eternally. bottomless reality is intelligence, and what we call love, unity, glory, whatever you want to call it, completely indefinite and impersonal, given its infinite nature. reality is one and multiple at the same time. Each particle of reality is the total reality, and there are infinite particles (I repeat, this is just speculation based on insight). When reality completely disintegrates in something like a big bang, its nature makes the return to unity inevitable, and this is the cosmos, evolution. Actually, everything is appearance, since something infinite is indefinite by definition, but appearances are and are in eternal movement, because infinity cannot be static. God is not someone who does things, it is an inevitable natural phenomenon given the absence of limits of reality. It is what we are, there is no deception, just a dance from which it is impossible to escape.

If you conceive of problem-solving as an impersonal rigid external system A tiresome, repetitive means to an end you hate to work through Then you suffer the disconnect of being discontent If instead you exist at every step on the way in your present experience And integrate it into your arsenal, you'll feel happy and fulfilled Abstracting away your understanding to fit your current yearnings

Yes. Exactly. Instead of getting rid of the illusion of being a ship on the ocean (ignorance, separate-self arisings I-thoughts, I feelings, feeling of being something specific) and truly realizing that one IS the impersonal/boundless ocean with all waves/dimensions that could ever be. And ever was was, only can be, and ever will be just the ocean. With or without the ignorance/illusion of feeling oneself as a ship/individuality being in it. but instead of that deciding for: Wave surfing and wave investigating. Lets go on the highest wave and see what the ocean can do. Infinitely consciousness high wave-surfing. Of course that is just the indviduality/ship/ego hijacking the true state of things (impersonal consciousness/ocean), going wave surfing on the highest and "infinitely consciousness" wave/dimension/whatever of manifestation (which is the Relative (manifestation), not the Absolute), and all the while never truly transcending its separateness/individuality/ignorance, but projecting that onto the Infinity of manifest arisings/form ("waves"), and proclaiming that as "infinitely consciousness". Ego=God=Solipsism. Bravo! And of course that is not the end of the game. The individual/ignorance is still very much alive. It contracts and suffers again and again. And Absolute Reality/Impersonal Infinite Consciousness/True God "says" (or better does that to the aficionado of that grasping worldview): Not today darling, no end of suffering before you let go that fascination of wave surfing and trying to become "infinitely" consciousness. Not before you stop chasing your own tail(s). Of which there are, guess what, and Infinity of. An Infinity of tails to chase. And all of which actually is NOT infinitely consciousness, but just wave-surfing and and becoming aware of high waves of manifestation/dimensions/manifestation-mechanisms, earthly or alien n+1. Projecting certain remnants of the separate self onto Infinity, and not letting the separate self illusion/ignorance truly exhaust itself in the ocean of truly impersonal consciousness. Infinitely consciousness is dropping into the ocean, transcending ones separate self/ego/ignorance truly, letting it die, understanding all its illusion/ignorance mechanisms, and becoming the impersonal boundless ocean of Absolute Reality itself. Maintaining that boundless nondual Awake Awareness of mere appearance in Infinite Reality in daily life. Because the clouding-over-ignorance mechanism is truly transcended/seen through/gone/dead, and "one" lives happily ever after as that which one really is: Absolute Reality itself. Self-evident moment to moment nondual boundless Awakened Awareness, all manifestation just mere appearance, always available, not depending on certain substances. But I guess that would require a major philosophical shift, and would create a certain marketing problem or two. Yet, it would feel infinitely better in daily life.... But hey, whatever floats ones ship on the ocean boat so to say... Its a free country Lila! And the self-contraction/ignorance is the spice of the universe, especially on the highest level of expanding the ego to infinitely large God-like dimensions. Where else to view such a show than in this little Samsara of ours? And as always, to all the "other" players in that magnificant show, good, bad, smart, maybe not so smart, alien, not alien, and so on and on: Bon voyage! And thanks for having the courage to endure the necessary suffering that goes along with playing/identifying with a fragment of the Totality (individuality/separate ego) to keep the illusion-show going in a convincing way! And never forget that when you are tired of all that suffering and confusion, there truly is a way home. Which, funnily, is always right Here, right Now. Hidden usually under a truckload of "me", separation, ignorance and illusion. So lets not make that truckload bigger than it already is. Selling water by the River

When you lose yourself in rational thought and see the world through that lens, you impose that limitation and mode of perception upon yourself. You ignore and dismiss deeper levels of interfacing with reality like emotions and senses and forget what it means to live through direct awareness. Your brain becomes trapped in the same loops, the default mode network forms. Your awareness moves around at the top level of the holarchy and only accesses the lower tiers reductively. The lower levels are desensitized and forgotten, only appearing when unmanaged physiological or emotional urges accumulate. Still, they fall into a conceptual framework and are treated as irrationalities to be consciously rejected, repressed or numbed through distraction like addictive behaviors or medication. To uncover, reintegrate and change your state of mind and access the lower, more fundamental layers of your psyche, you need to let go of that which keeps you in a closed mindset, ego. Ego is a self-perpetuating identity. It co-opts fear to protect itself and close oneself of. It creates and establishes emotional barriers, it builds layers of anxiety, anxiety spawns rigid behavior to avoid danger, which is whatever is at odds with the ego's identity. Ego spawns habits and distractions to avoid change and reintegration into a greater whole. It's ultimate goal is to exist in its current form forever, that is however impossible, so it does the next best thing of keeping the organism and reality it exists inside from changing in whatever way possible. It might be rigid in some areas and dynamic in others, change itself might be part of its identity, but then it will be rigid about that. It is an emergent self-replicating behaviral pattern. Life necessitates ego by virtue of desiring to survive, but its extent is infinitely variable and it can exist on any layer, it can become a detriment to the larger system and cause its own downfall because of it. Ego creates hate and hates change and whatever it associates with it. It loves in a conditional fashion that which mirrors itself and is willing to sacrifice parts of itself for a greater good, which is a larger aspect of its identity. Ego exists in division, identification with one side of a duality, creating infinite dualities, interconnecting them and associating your consciousness with that part. Ego is preference, ego is attachment. The less ego you have, the less you exist, for to exist is to experience, but to experience, you need to distinguish, and to distinguish, you must want, and to want, you need a drive, and the drive we're born with is survival, expressed in all our evolved behaviors, hunger, pain, curiosity, love. The collective holarchy is called the social matrix, it's the deep collective drive that is created through many layers of personal and impersonal interactions of individuals and their emergent behavioral patterns they exist in feedback loops with. It creates a sense of obligation, purpose, identity, self-worth and belonging that is communicated and felt by individuals at the bottom of the holarchy through their environment. It is another self-perpetuating ego that can exist in contrast to an individual, or be aligned with, partially or wholly, giving up the individual's independent thinking and reasoning ability for the shared identity with the collective. It is ultimately an emergent property of individual interactions though and mirrors their nature. It can be changed, just as an individual identity can change, but the ego has to be transcended, and it the case of the social-matrix, the collective mass of egos have to transcend their limitations in order for that to manifest on that highest scale. But all ego is self-perpetuating, so the only place change can start, is where ego originates from, undivided consciousness. But how would one break out of the self-perpetuating loop, when lost on the inside? By a different kind of ego. Love and emergent empathy is part of our nature, it drives us towards expanding our sense of identity and becoming in touch with ourselves and the world around us, it raises our consciousness instead of limiting it. If we rejected ego, we'd create another duality that fights against its opposite, in survival it might be necessary, vut surrvival was always the ego's game. We incorporate ego, dissolving dualities of preference, by loving both sides equally and understanding their importance. Love can exist as a duality to hate, a preference, to love one part of a duality is to hate its opposite, the more one loves something, the more one fears to lose it and hates whatever initiates that loss. So love and hate exist within ego as well, just like love exists without ego. The difference is the extent of love, when everything is love, there is no room for hate. But couldn't the duality dissolve into hate instead? Well, hate is an act, and every action is motivated by love, love is the only reason one acts, so even if an ego hates everything, the only reason it does, is because it loves to, it satisfies it and that satisfaction self-perpetuates it. So in truth, hate doesn't exist, it only exists as an emergent property of limited love, love is real, hate is conditional and created through preference, which is the channeling of love onto one aspect only. The fundamental mental building block of existence hence appears to be: The channeling of love. That creates identinty and preference, division and reality, to experience existence at all, one has to channel love into a specific aspect of oneself to be able to experience it. Without preference, everything would dissolve into nothing, perfect unconditional love and indistinguishable Non-Duality. So god has no desires except to be god, but god is infinite and to be oneself and see onself, god has to divide and channel love into all these parts of itself. So then god simulates the entire universe through divison and our consciousness is tied to a biological entity's first person view of itself and its environment and that it perceives itself as such, but all of it is awareness, all of it is consciousness. That entity has a subconscious it cannot access at all times, that's a limitation imposed both by its ego and god that granted it that limited form. That creature, human, individual is beautiful but limited, conscioisness is everything. Right now, your consciousness is limited to your first person view of the world, but it is imaginary, and yet real at the same time. After all, the difference is imaginary, god is being, you are being, you are a part of god, your indentity is imaginary, your world is a simulation, your life is real, your existence is real, the pain and love is real. It is imagined, interpreted through identity, preference, bias, all perspectives, all lenses, but in the lens you live, it is real. Nothing is real and everything is real, nothing is imaginary and everything is imaginary. The distinction is both real and imaginary. The distinction exists but it is a perspective. Are perspectives real? They are partial, real in themselves, a delusion from the outside, what they really are, is arbitrary. Maybe that word can dissolve the distinction betwen real and imaginary, the difference is arbitrary. But any word is a duality by virtue of being a reference because to point to something is for something to exist in opposition to something else, else there'd be nothing to point to as there would only be that one thing. Arbitrary might be a duality to consistency, a constant, immutability. But all of reality can exist in limitless superpositions, the channeling of love can occur in any configuration, yet reality happens as it does, its distinct and it occurs regardless of how complex it seems. Our being is the truth and the truth is immutable, constant, consistent, aligned with what god imagines. But what god imagines is arbitrary, but at the same time not, because god is unbiased. The truth is that which is the case, that changes all the time, hence arbitrary, but it is always itself, what it is meant to be, what god imagines it to be, aligned and constant. It dissolves that contradiction. God is absolute truth, god is unconditional love, god is infinite. Why? Do we adapt those beliefs? Nope, we define and experience god. God is Non-Duality, the end of ego dissolution, God is your highest form, your most actualized self, your undifferentiated consciousness. Consciousness is your direct first person experience of reality, god is that reality dissolved in love. God is not hypothetical, god is not belived, beliefs are rational pointers, impersonal, biased and easy to misinterpret. They are an attempt at communicating the importance and extent of the divine, its form and nature, but they're stories, ideas, human concepts and they end up perpetuating ego, the exact opposite of the path to god. God is the dissolution of all boundries and pure unconditional love, all of existence, whose parts we are and whose consciousness we are. We are ego and we are god, the difference is the level of love and division. To live in this world is to divide it, to live is to care about surviving. To love someone is to want them to keep living and be happy. All of these preferences will be given up on the path to godhood. But until then, your identity needs to expand from inside this automaton's survival bias, towards collective health, towards caring for the planet, towards wanting what's best for all life in the universe, multiverse, towards drawing less distinctions about when life becomes life, towards letting all of it flow, ego and egoless. And then there's psychedelics, inducing a state of deep conscious interaction with reality and understanding your ego through being thrown into love and a non-scarcity growth mindset, inducing unconditional love shows you the limitation of the ego. Your brain's pathways shape after the ego you create and the way it views reality. Psychedelics dissolve that ego by connecting every part of the brain, creating neural plasticity and giving you control of all your brain's pathways back. They also show you what experiencing reality freshly at a higher state of engagement feels like. In high dosis, they lead to hallucinations, which is really just your brain interconnecting and speedrunning all associations and their relation to each other, interpreting all of your senses, emotions, thoughts, ideas creatively at a profound level. That's where all the insights come from, that's where all the crazy stories come from, that's where all the fascinating hippie reports from the 60s originate. A brain on psychedelics interconnects reality at an insane rate in hyper-creative ways and no resistance towards doing it, seeking and giving itself love while experiencing overwhelming emotions through a strong link between all brain areas. The brain is imaginary but real, arbitrary but consistent, it is what it is, a vessel for our consciousness to perceive and experience this simulation's world from inside of. Psychedelics increase brain activity and interconnect it, and our conscious experience is exactly what you would expect. Less bias, less preference of pathways, means more direct unlimited perception, more engagement, more experience, more creativity and by lack of bias, love. Tons of love. To take psychedelics is to speed up your psyche, to induce ego dissolution physically instead of mentally. But it will only work if you know what you're doing and can make sense of what it means, else you'll get confused and overwhelmed, thinking it is real and might last forever, you might get scared, you might be overstimulated, you might get paranoid, you might interpret paranoia into your perception, you might get very stressed and time might stop for an eternity, in the wrong state of mind, it might amplify your most negative aspects to infinity and make you speedrun hell instead of heaven. Though the speedrun will only last for hours of thw world's time, you will experience it for a perceived eternity, granted how fast your brain will reinterpret reality and you might hurt yourself in the process or do worse. That's why sellers tell us to start small and be careful and respectful. It's so be don't fall into a self-perpetuating loop of misery and dissolve our sense of control and autonomy to stop it in the storm. Just like reality, a bad trip is imaginary but real. There are people unable to deal with the state of their reality and have mental breakdowns and bad trips follow the same mechanics because realness is imaginary. Psychedelics show you that arbitrariness, but you have to realize that's what they're pointing to, god's imaginary multiverse. Without resistance, there's no suffering, so that's why you always hear not to resist a bad trip, align yourself with it and it will pass, it might even turn into a good one, realizing the difference might as well be the most informative thing you'll ever learn. But be careful and learn how it affects you, else you're jumping into water not knowing how to swim, you might learn it on the way, find a piece of wood to hold onto, someone might throw you a life ring and save you, or you might drown, or you could learn how to swim beforehand, but you can only last so long in deep waters, so you need to keep practising and improving to swim further, dive deeper and know that if you're out of energy, you need to lie flat on the surface and float on top until you're eventually washed ashore. Psychedelics are a speedrun, they also induce awareness and presence, they're invaluable tools for growth, transcendence or even just fixing your life by taking you out of ego and seeing things more objectively and creatively, use them wisely. Of course to learn wisdom, you must experience first hand, after all, only you can know what's true, but you can use others' experiences as pointers and guidance to help you navigate and where to be more careful. Danger might be fabricated by the ego or it might be real and deadly, when someone alarms you to danger, take it slow, analyze, interconnect, learn, look at other people's experiences, figure out everyone's bias, if you decide to face the danger, do so in small steps in a controlled environment with safety and precautions. After all, if you don't know what the nature of the danger is, it is unpredicable and potentially deadly, once you understand its mechanics and what it is fundamentally, you can assess its behavior and make aware informed risks based on your best reasoning ability. Consensus is not evil but it is biased, you can use it as the first step, it is what you're accustomed to, what kept you safe until now, but now you're ready to take in more of reality, to learn, make your own decisions, expand your paradigm and take responsibility, evolving your understanding and part taking in creating a better consensus. You are the unknown, you are the alien, everything can only exist inside of yourself, don't be afraid. But you have put yourself in this human form for a reason, so love it and love reality as it is, explore yourself as much as you can, and be as loving as you can possibly be. Don't get lost in egoic non-duality desiring, everything you desire you can be instead, don't tell others to be a certain way, exchange understanding or point them to contemplation instead. You are still a human, you can troll or have humor, you can mess around and have fun, that's love, it's all love. But you know, if you want something, there are many strategies to get there. And if you only want people to awaken as fast as possible, look at who they are and what would get you there if you were them, and if that's the best and most loving way to get them into love or if it will only spawn a cycle of suffering and confusion. That's part of reality too, necessary to appreciate it, but there's diminishing returns at some point. You have the power to do anything you want to change yourself and others and the perception of realty. Being in tune with yourself is a beautiful way to be.

Where did you learn this from? It depends on various factors, whether personal or cultural. Or situational. Some people don't like to be touched. Others don't mind. Others find it too impersonal. Depending on her own sensibiltiies, it's difficult to say in any broad or absolute sense that this can symbolise friendship.

@ivankiss. Nice post . The character/individual floats around in the real You. Capital Y. And it is more or less subtly disturbing the realization of the real impersonal nature of Absolute Reality/Consciousness. It is just that fully realizing that is the death of the illusion (technically called ignorance) of the small you, or the individual. And zero chance to fully get that until..... small you/individuality is fully seen through and dead. Which is an event that doesn't get overlooked so easily, since, um, what you were before is dead then. Replaced by the impersonal (!) Totality, the Real You. Yes, IT is not personal. IT doesn't need anything, not even self-consciousness. IT just is. Good news: IT always is. Never can not be. Being itself. Same can not be said for the character/individuality. And if one is not exactly THAT right now, and fully aware of that (and its impersonal nature), merged with (or better BEING) the Totality in a boundless infinite nondual way, there is some illusion/individuality/ignorance going on... Alien or not. Of course it is much easier to project the remaining "individuality" floating around in the truly impersonal infinite Absolute Reality ON all the manifesting appearances happening in that Absolute Reality, nondual (but not impersonal) states boosted by certain.... substances. And then go mountain-ridge-facet-of-the-Absolute climbing, proclaiming I AM GOD... Only problem: The "I" in the sentence before is the illusion with lots of ignorance still remaining in it, not the real Impersonal God/Reality/True You. So the question is again: Who (really) hears these words? Selling Water by the River

I mean seriously..you guys are so lost in spiritual puffy buffy land of impersonal cloud of "consciousness " floating around without a "you " owning it . You gotta outgrow that shit . That's kindergarten to this work. Are you aware of cartoon wolf awakening 2.0 ?

"You" are not infinite, you are a limiter that gives shape to the infinite, which is still infinite but seems finite. That's why "you" can disappear and the formless infinite continues to exist. It is something that becomes evident if you break your limited form with psychedelics, then you understand what you are. Infinity, the substance of reality, is impersonal, it is not alone since it has no limits. It is not one, it is not two, that is why we speak of non-duality and not of unity. the others that appear in your limited experience are also the infinite, everything is. Outside of you there is experience, since "outside" you really is inside, but you do not perceive it because "you" are a limiter. You are the blinders of a donkey that forces it to see only what it has to see and blinds it to the rest. But this is just an idea , maybe it's different. How to know without doubt?

Not so misterious. The absence of limits inherent to absolute emptiness makes inevitable that everything is. Zero and infinity are the same. the infinite, in which the totality of existence is contained, flows on itself in a kind of creative and inevitable dance. This total infinity is unlimited intelligence, will, power. It is completely impersonal, a natural phenomenon, not a concrete entity, but this is what is called god. God understand everything because only one thing is understood: infinity. If you realize and become infinite, you understand everything, just being infinite. understanding empty of content or structure. The infinite in its flow creates increasingly complex forms whose substance is the only substance that exists: the infinity ,where the part is at the same time part and totality. This is, as you said, not originated, since there were never limits. It is always now, moving on itself infinitely. That's what we are, there is no mystery, only reality