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RMQualtrough replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is a difference between the nothingness of ego which I have certainly experienced, and what I am pondering about whether even the viewpoint which is "the void" can be eliminated. When I became void and nothing, there was still a viewpoint. I was nothing such that my ego became an appearance in front of me just like a vision was, ALL forms were in fact. But I was this nothingness. And I wonder if maybe I am not even a "nothingness" observing objects which includes my self, but literally just the observed objects which are sort of observing themselves and entirely alone in the same way the Sun illuminates itself. No God or I or self or any of this. -
TRUTHWITHCAPITALT replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Salvijus it is hard to swallow the nothingness of ego for the impermanent biological organism. It can come up with ingenious defense mechanism to defend its survival and existence. It is like an actor arguing with the director that the the movie should not end. -
The0Self replied to Cathal's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@RMQualtrough @Salvijus One could say nothing exists (as in literally existence = nothingness). Could also say all there is = existence, and nonexistence = impossible. Or you could say existence and nonexistence are not two. -
RMQualtrough replied to Cathal's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm starting to really think it's the latter, that there is no self-ness even to that void. That the existence we see unfolding is one and self illuminating... The experience of Sunyata was still a dual experience, despite the fact I became nothing (without any question or delusion), there was still a point of view which was nothingness. Even though any aspect of me was just something happening to that point of view... But I wonder if it's more like a mixture of that voidness experience, as well as typical DMT ego death where self and other becomes intermingled. I think it might just be happening with no self even as nothing. Difficult to explain the idea of something like a sound ringing out unto itself if you see what I mean. -
You will come to know yourself as a creator being of limitless power. Time, space, energy and matter are all illusions created to make certain types of games work and could be easily manipulated. When you know that you are a part of the oneness, then the illusions only work when you want them to work. So these things become flexible. Then you see that time and space are the same thing. They are simply an illusory separation of things. Energy is created by this separation and flows between two or more points that were separated by the illusion of time and space. Matter is simply the result of holding patterns of consciousness in the flow of the energy. Up till now, you have believed yourself to be inside the illusion. You have looked at the forms that result and, not only have you believed these things to be real, but you have actually believed yourselves to be these forms. But it is not so. These forms, which result from the patterns, are not you. They are just your temporary creations. You will see that. You will see that you are the creator of your form. And then you will learn how to alter the forms that you create, to your will. I mean, you will be able to consciously create, or co-create, your world, your body and anything around you, as you wish. Then you will learn instant teleportation. You will be able to simply let go of a form here, where you are, and your body will simply disappear into nothingness, only to reappear from the nothingness elsewhere on the planet. Or, indeed on another planet, if you wish. All you need to do is hold your form's patterns in energy there and then you shall be there. Or, at least the form you are using to represent yourself shall be there. Teleportation is the favored mode of transport for high-order unity conscious beings throughout the universe. Neither space nor time will be an obstacle for you! And, of course, you will never again feel the need to die. Death is a very important and valuable tool for beings on the Karmic Wheel. It is quite normal for beings still on that path to get lost in their games and illusions and to lose sight of the greater purpose and goal of their journey. Not only do such beings get a little lost and confused, but they also begin to create a great deal of pain, fear and confusion for themselves. So, death was created to allow these beings to interrupt their passage so that they could, with some regularity, be brought back to their intended path. Death allows a means for the being to bring their journey to a halt and return to a higher consciousness for guidance and help. Without its merciful release, those beings would become very weary and traumatized. But, as you move into a state of being pure, radiant love, such release becomes utterly unnecessary. There will be nothing you will need release from. If you ever require rest, you may simply still your being and put down your burden and you will instantly find yourself in that state of blissful, balanced, harmonious oneness that is your truest nature. And for you this will be as normal as a night's sleep currently is. These are some of the general attributes of a life in true unity consciousness or God-realization. And being of unity consciousness is the same thing as being Love. The perfect, unconditional love of All That Is. Attaining such awareness and being of such high consciousness is not a limitation. You will not find yourself confined to a life such as I have just outlined. You might, for example, choose to reside in unity consciousness and, from there, make expeditions into the lower realms of separation and duality on missions of discovery or adventures of service for those who require guidance on the journey to God-realization. Or you could move through the portal of the oneness and go and visit other realities entirely. I don't simply mean other places in this universe or other universes, no, I mean other entirely different frames of creation. Creations, which do not operate at all like this one does. As you move from a place of oneness, you can enter any other realm that is within the oneness. And you may go and create there if you desire. This is all open for you to choose. You shall realize very quickly too that you no longer need a three or four dimensional perspective. You will realize that you can operate from outside of time. This means that you might want to maintain a life in one reality and, at the same time, explore and create in a thousand others. There are no limitations on you, save those which you place upon yourself. These are some of the general traits of the life of a being who creates its world entirely with love and who lives in a unity-conscious reality. It is what you can expect for yourself if you open your heart to love, and then stay the course on your journey to oneness. But they are only general traits and you will be free, of course, to choose other experiences if you wish them. As to the specifics of your life – where you will live, how you will live, what you will do – these, of course, are questions you will answer for yourself. I cannot tell you what you will decide. But I can tell you that you will be able, if you wish it, to live a truly sublime life. If you decide to surround yourself with others who are also of God-realized consciousness, then you shall feel nothing but soul-connection on all sides. You shall be held in the soft embrace of love all the days of your existence. You shall trust all whom you meet and your trust shall be returned. You shall seek always to give your greatest gift and you shall be loved and respected for your giving. And whatever your greatest gift is, it shall indeed be something worthy of your time and attention. And you will give your gift away with open-hearted generosity. You shall never need to ask, "But what is in it for me?" because all those around you will be likewise giving their greatest gift. And in an infinite universe, there is guaranteed to be someone, somewhere whose greatest bliss it is to create exactly the thing that you might think you want or need. Taking your need to them will be a gift to them! The fact that you have need of their greatest gift will bless them. And that will be the new economy of the new world in which you shall dwell if you choose to live amongst others who are of unity consciousness. You will give and give and give. And when someone takes of your gift, it will bring you joy. And if there is something you want or need, you shall simply have to accept it, as it will be offered to you. Your accepting it will bring the giver joy. Love shall be the currency of the new world of the God-realized, but the result of every transaction will be joy for all concerned. Greg
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I tripped in a dream. Strange happening. A family member popped out of the wheat and argued with me so I decided to go my own way. As I walked away on the wheat field, it became completely infinite such that no matter how far I travelled or where I went, I was always just crawling around on this neverending wheat field. I then broke down crying in joy as I realized there is only the wheat field and the wheat field ALONE. I had some odd thoughts in the dream which I don't quite remember, but involved infinity necessarily being nothing, meaning I could never actually move away from the rooster even if it appeared I was. An example was the attempt to imagine looking at infinite transparency, and how to be perceived as something it must necessarily be limited by the mind adding a black or white backdrop. Something infinite is nothing and imperceptible so although I looked to be moving away from the rooster in actuality I was merely fixed in nothingness. Later in the dream (maybe a different one after falling back asleep) I was on a game show where we had the chance to completely swap out our ego. It showed past events in my history (a fake character, not this me) and showed how the character mourns over those bad past events because it believes it had or is having them... After a very fucking weird bit where a hooker injected liquid in my dick that made me incontinent and shit myself for life (what the actual fuck), I yelled out that I don't want this life anymore, though I had 2 kids and some other stuff like being a successful businessman. Instantly I was back in the game show place and my name tag rolled over and became a new name, everyone cheered, and I was this new person. I then realized the whole hooker bit was a simulation to test if I want to keep my current self or swap it to a new one. The new self still had the medical issues but it felt like "that's just how it's always been", and when shown past events of myself with the old ego crying, I did not feel emotional anymore because I did not identify that character or event as me. It was like watching a doppelganger being tortured instead. Interestingly, the moment I was back at the game show and my tag rolled over, I felt so much relief, and felt anxious about how bad it would have been if I had decided to keep my original ego and squander this chance to be born anew. I'll probably fall back asleep now. But did not want to forget. Fucking weird man.
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After watching the videos The Ultimate Structure Of Reality Explained and Absolute Infinity Parts I & II, I have come up with some insights. Just wanted to share them with you. You are, of course, familiar with elastic bands. Well, I'm going to ask you to imagine something which is a little like a rubber band. But instead of being a band, it is a ball. The most curious attribute of this elastic ball is that it is infinite. Infinity is not something that is easily understood, though, so I am going to take some time to explain this properly. The first attribute of The Infinite Elastic Ball is that it can be stretched out an infinite amount in any direction. It never snaps or breaks and it never runs out of stretch. Secondly, it can be stretched in an infinite number of different directions. And here you are going to have to work with me to imagine this. A rubber band can only be stretched in two directions, right? Either end can be pulled outwards. But the infinite elastic ball can be stretched in every direction. Left, right, up, down, yesterday, next year, purple, cinnamon, happy, vibrant, quartz... yes, those are directions. They are directions in consciousness. We live in a narrowly confined, three-dimensional world. We imagine that the cardinal directions in space are the only directions we can move in. Some on our planet have become a little more imaginative and have come to the conclusion that "time" is also a direction. They are right. The next step is to realize that all things are of consciousness and that all consciousness can be traversed. Back to the Infinite Elastic Ball. If you take these two properties: that it can be stretched out infinitely and in an infinite number of directions, then it follows that this ball includes everything. Nothing is outside of it, and everything is inside of it. The word "Infinity" originally comes from the Latin word, infinitas, which means "unboundedness". If something has a boundary, then it is finite. And specifying that anything at all is not inside this ball, is to specify a boundary. But this ball is not finite, it is in-finite. Infinite. So there can be nothing that it does not include. The third attribute of the Infinite Elastic Ball is the fact that, when it is not stretched out in any direction at all, it collapses down to nothingness and ceases to exist. You, at your core, are pure consciousness. This is your true nature. And pure consciousness, when it ceases all function, has no form. There is an aphorism in the world of architecture and design which goes, "form follows function," and in that context it means something like, "purpose should dictate shape". Now, I want to reuse that phrase in a different context. You see, in the most universal sense, it really is true that form does follow function. In fact, it is function that brings form into being. If you cease all function, then you will lose all form. You will return to the experience of pure consciousness. The fourth attribute of The Infinite Elastic Ball is called Infinite Variation. Understand, time does not act on the Infinite Elastic Ball – time is just one of the things inside the Infinite Elastic Ball. This means that this ball is always in all of its possible states. It is, right now, pulled out in every single direction it ever was pulled in and every single direction it ever will be pulled in. And it is also not pulled in any of those directions. It is right now expanded infinitely in infinite directions and also collapsed into nothingness. It is right now busy expanding and busy contracting. And every other permutation that we can imagine and a great many more that we cannot. The Infinite Elastic Ball is in all of these states, all at the same time. If it is to be truly infinite, it must be so that all possibilities exist at the same time. At no point is any possibility excluded. Otherwise there would, again, be a boundary. This really means that everything that is created always exists, and it all exists at the same time. All of it is right now. Greg.
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Session Seven: 37,5 minutes. Session felt a little bit longer than usual. Breath occasionally normalized as I seemed to forget about the breath work, when diving into thoughts. At last all thoughts vanished. Glimpse of "God structure" as I like to call it. More important was for me to see how all of reality sits inside this nothingness. Nothingness fulfills and surrounds reality. In that case my imagination of there being a room or a house got smaller and smaller. Nothingness/Spaciousness remained.
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@The0Self would you call the thing in itself, the noumenon, that tree which falls in the forest and makes or doesn't make a sound when nowone is there to perceive it conciousness aswell? I guess I'm just curious what that is, maybe rather than it being out of conciousness, it is simply out of the perceptual field of my mind body complex. Is conciousness just the substance then? It can't be atoms cause what are atoms made of etc.. plus atoms are also just more sense data and qualitative experience arnt they? I guess my greatest hunch is that reality is simply nothing and the whole thing exists as that and when perception and the sense aparatus occours that's just more of that nothingness appearing, colourful and "thinged". The thingification is simply just the finite mental activity. Maybe the reason it is appearing as if there is consensus and empirical similarity and objectivity happening is because of similar limited mental structures in animals, other humans etc.. are literally designed to interact with the noumenal nothingness of conciousness/allowance/being in the same way, it produces a similar image hence creating the illusion of the phenomenal shared reality. We have no proof that our experience qualitivatively even looks the same anyways. Is my red your green? Etc.. The question of what anything even is beofre anyone looks at it completely fascinates me Man, feel like I might be making this over technical I just really want a well reasoned position. This sort of inquiry and mental sexy times keeps me up at night sometimes..
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Vincent S replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothingness is total freedom. Never was a life. You thought you were, but now you are gone, forever resting in white space, floating and drifting. Just being raw unused potential of Everything. Peace, Unity and Love. One whole and complete Singularity of Everything. -
CuriousityIsKey replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Somebody wrote this on reddit : I’ve been “dead” on 5meo before. If that state is an ultimate state, then we are all fucked because it is actually the opposite of an ultimate state. It’s just nothing. I’d argue that duality is actually what’s divine, not the state of nothingness. Also, is it REALLY what happens when we die or is it just an experience we have on drugs? Imo, we still don’t know what happens to “us” when we die. -
RMQualtrough replied to WokeBloke's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That was a quote, both elements subject and object are fundamentally the same, there appears to be a duality but both components have the same substance, which is nothingness, which is exactly what "pure" awareness is. This can be found, but I also think it is logically obvious that if there is no "thing" for consciousness to be conscious OF, what is left is nothing. But you know consciousness exists which is why I said it (the subject) is an existent nothingness. Awareness is exactly what knows awareness. What could be aware of the existence of awareness, other than awareness? If you take away all things from awareness of course you are aware of nothing, because all that's left is nothing, since sheer awareness is nothingness... The only thing ever experienced is awareness as per the prior quote I posted, and awareness can be found to be literally nothing. All there is to the experience of something is the awareness/knowing of it as per the quote. Both the subject and the object are, in substance, made of the same nothing. If somethingness is not MADE out of nothingness, what substance do you think it is made of? If you imagine a unicorn in your mind, what substance do you think that unicorn is made from? -
RMQualtrough replied to WokeBloke's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Before narcissists come in to confuse you on purpose, first here is what is meant when people explain only consciousness exists (no subject and object): "Not only is pure knowing or awareness itself the primary element of mind; it is the only substance present in mind. It is easy to check this in experience. All that is or could ever be known is experience, and all there is to experience is the knowing of it – in fact, not the knowing ‘of it’, because we never encounter an ‘it’ independent of knowing. All there is to ‘it’ is the experience of knowing. In other words, we never know anything other than knowing. All there is to experience is knowing. There is no object that is known and no subject that knows it. There is just knowing. And what is it that knows that there is knowing? Only that which knows can know knowing. Therefore, only knowing knows knowing. That is, awareness or consciousness is all that is ever known or experienced, and it is awareness or consciousness that is knowing or experiencing itself. Thus, the only substance present in experience is awareness. Awareness is not simply the ultimate reality of experience; it is the only reality of experience." It isn't that existence is not happening in a subject and object manner, but that both are fundamentally the same exactly as per that quote. In certain transcendental states of mind, the nothing that is pure consciousness becomes dissociated from the thingness which is any appearance. You can then know nothingness, and know that nothingness is, bizarrely, something which exists. Without those things, there is nothingness, but nothingness is what you are right now, because you identify yourself most strongly (I assume) with pure consciousness alone, that is what most people are afraid will be destroyed in death. But of course, how could you ever destroy nothingness? It's invincible, untouchable, doesn't need a creator, yadda yadda. In other transcendental states experience and self merge like that realization that subject and object are one. I barely remember clearly enough to convey it, because I have not used drugs in a long time. -
RMQualtrough replied to WokeBloke's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Sartre notes that human consciousness is always conscious of something else. However human consciousness itself is really nothingness. So without something to be conscious of, our consciousness cannot exist as it defines itself with respect to the things which it is conscious of." When you say "I" you are referring to human consciousness, and thus to what is inherently nothing. But you would probably say consciousness does exist, and there you find an existent nothingness. -
BipolarGrowth replied to WokeBloke's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The bold claim of nothing is happening is never as good as the “bold claim” of __________ __ _______________ which is nowhere near as good as . By the way, no one likely has a decent idea of what nothing is without “experiencing” fruition/cessation. “Fruition (phala in Pali) is the fruit of all the meditator’s hard work, the first attainment of ultimate reality, emptiness, nirvana, nibbana, ultimate potential, or whatever extrapolative and relatively inaccurate name you wish to call something utterly non-sensate. In this non-state, there is absolutely no time, no space, no reference point, no experience, no mind, no consciousness, no awareness, no background, no foreground, no nothingness, no somethingness, no body, no this, no that, no unity, no duality, and no anything else. “Reality” stops cold and then reappears. Thus, this is impossible to comprehend, as it goes completely and utterly beyond the rational mind and the universe. In “external time” (if we were observing the meditator) this stage typically lasts only an instant (though the question of “duration” will be addressed below). It is like an utter discontinuity of the space-time continuum with nothing in the unfindable gap, exactly like what happens when someone edits out a frame or sequence of frames of a movie. It is not that you see a blank screen for a while where they edited the frames out, instead that part of the movie is just not there.” -From Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha written by Daniel Ingram https://www.mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-iv-insight/30-the-progress-of-insight/15-fruition/ “This world, Kaccana, for the most part depends upon a duality—upon the notion of existence and the notion of nonexistence. But for one who sees the origin of the world as it really is with correct wisdom, there is no notion of nonexistence in regard to the world. And for one who sees the cessation of the world as it really is with correct wisdom, there is no notion of existence in regard to the world.” -The Buddha In the Diamond Sutta, the Buddha discusses neither existence nor nonexistence. Following this will get you far closer to “the prize” than using plain dualities such as something vs. nothing or existence vs. nonexistence. The truth is something none of those words do any justice to what “really is” and trap those who cling to one duality vs. the other. I encourage you to listen to this Diamond Sutta audiobook: It has been incredibly helpful for me. This Sutta was spoken by the Buddha while teaching his disciple about how to become a Buddha. -
How to be wise replied to Phoenix11's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Phoenix11 The name certainly is, but it’s pointing to the truth. Although I prefer the word ‘nothingness’. -
integration journey posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If you become aware of your nature after doing some of this work for a couple of years, do you keep doing self inquiry? for example, when I ask "what am I?", I know that I'm nothingness because I had this reference experience. I also have feelings/ direct experience of nirvana/bliss on a daily bases just being by myself in meditation Do I keep doing self-inquiry? When I ask that question of what am I , God is also an answer but I just hope it is not coming from a belief. Thanks -
Khan 0 replied to Julian gabriel's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have tried 10 gr dried shrooms with fresh lemon and dark chocolate. Trip last 20 hours. It wasnt madness, it was straight to source, nothingness. Felt like billlon of years passed away. Took away my all emotions. I felt like i went to before big bang and come back. Be very careful. If you are not ready surrender everything dont do it. -
Vincent S replied to rnd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yep. It happened after a retreat, at a friends house. 4 pufs and I "died", pure varm, loving void. Nothingness forever. Until "I" came back. I saw my ego freak out while it happened. But that was the first time I saw the real me and the "unreal" me, seperated. -
God is Infinity is Nothingness is Love self/ego/me/i is the mechanism of segregation/separation and the deluded negation of God Then renunciation of self is the highest embodiment of God Buddhism is the highest form of renounciation
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WokeBloke replied to wildflower's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Okay I have a few questions. 1. Why do you equate infinity with nothingness? 2. Why do you think the word "I" is a mechanism of separation? Isn't it just the word that God or infinity uses to express that it exists? 3. What is so special about God denying that it exists? To me that sounds like a delusional God. If only God exists then it is appropriate for God to say "Only I exist". It would be false for God to say "I do not exist". -
Breakingthewall replied to VictorB02's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no self, it is an illusion. reality is a limitless void pretending to be something. apparent reality and infinite nothingness are the same. yes yes, all this is the starting point of spirituality. being able to see every moment the illusion of reality is a big step. everything is illusion. but obviously there is more. It is not that the ego wants to find something and all that, it is that it is evident. you are, and you are in unlimited depth, void source of love, sacred plenitude. say: there is nothing, I am already enlightened. stop fooling yourself, there's nothing. all of this sounds like you are stuck, that there is a part of you unable to open up. -
RMQualtrough replied to WokeBloke's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is because you think your ego is God. God is the term for what all of your self lies on top of, "all of your self" being absolutely anything that is any thing at all. Your desires, wants, actions, creations, imagined objects, those things are appearing to "God". Because they are things. And God is the source of the things, being the total literal nothingness that is awareness when you strip all of its contents away from it. You aren't controlling what appears IMO. It seems God cannot NOT create. You actually cannot stop random thoughts and emotions and other things, if you do it's like anaesthetic, which for all intents and purposes doesn't happen because the "gap" is never experienced. Only continuous out of control chaotic neverending creation. -
RMQualtrough replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What you're trying to refer to is actual nothingness, that can be found for real, no BULLSHIT cope. The human mind is all "things" like thoughts and sights and emotions. -
Karl-Heinz Mueller posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi Leo, Hi everyone, I have been consuming your stuff for some time by now. I was actually wondering whether it would be worth the time here to write a lengthy comment. I really do think that many of your non-esoteric teachings on your channel are quite valuable and courageously unconventional. And I also think that we should develop ourselves, and grow and refine our consciousnesses. That is good stuff, I appreciate it! From what I know I think that you are amongst the top league of Youtube high consciousness content providers. And I pull off my hat for that fact that you put it out for free. Props for doing that! But! With all due respect, Leo, in what follows I do not intend to adulate you, since that would be rather boring and not provide for a good discussion. I would like to share my overall critique of your teachings. And since other people also find the way you teach as somewhat aggressive, I say „If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it.‟ ;-) I myself like to be outright and outspoken, so to me it is not such a big problem. My critique is not all-encompassing. I did not watch every single of your videos. But a good chunk of it. Don’t let being as good as you are delude you into believing that you are infallible (you not rarely sound as of you believe yourself to be that). In every of your videos I have to more or less frown at several points due to the flawed reasoning that you display, or I notice points where you contradict yourself, even to things that you mentioned minutes ago in the same video (I could cite examples if you are interested, but they are not my main point here). Well, that is all okay, we all make mistakes and err from time to time. Yet I would not expect such mistakes of someone who thinks he is „god‟ (even the way you define that catchword)… It also sometimes seems to me that you wish to maintain a kind of „aura of enlightenment‟. You address too little self-doubt in your videos. Because you have to. Since if you would admit your doubts or occasional mistakes your teachings would not be as well received anymore (more on that later). Overall I get the impression that you – thanks to all the personal development and study you have done – have grown a huge, even somewhat arrogant and overbearing, spiritual ego. I miss humility a bit. This calling-yourself-god stuff is probably the most ludicrous outgrowth of it. From the way you speak I get the impression that you regard yourself as highly spiritually advanced, but that does not make you being exempt from ordinary manners. Straight away, I think it would be honest if you would just admit that you are just some guy, a human being of material form with quite some clever insights into life and the world, but whose spiritual pursuit is at odds with materialist science. As to that topic: What made me very curious, and what for the sake of transparency I think everyone of us needs to know, is why you did not react to this guy’s invitation to discuss with him, which you yourself wanted to do. Were you afraid? Was that one of your egoic defense mechanisms, afraid of transparency? Of course, materialist science is your natural enemy, that is why bringing it into disrepute is part of your agenda. Polemically imitating your manner I can just as well say that: „that is all it is… a spiritual ego that tries to defend its own spiritual deceptions.‟ I myself come from a Buddhist background, but was thankfully able to outgrow that stuff. That, to my experience, not many spiritual people seem capable or willing (I guess: most probably capable, but not willing) of performing. But why? Since we are at the topic: Why don’t you have a look at Early Buddhism? I see all your spirituality as a piecing-together and blending of old brahmanic teachings with new age hippy stuff, making it your own kind of cult. From what I have seen you are completely oblivious to Early Buddhism, which would wipe out your beliefs about non-dualism, god, nothingness as god.. Anyway, I know what it is like. I do meditate, I went on meditation retreats, I used to believe in reincarnation, enlightenment, karma, non-material realms – the whole gamut. I was married to the spirituality for many years. So… I kind of know my craft. But my „spiritual ego‟ was not able to defend itself against the rough honesty of existential, materialist nihilism. Are you afraid of that? Now, I know you well enough, you will probably say that I am deluded and don’t see the full picture, and so on. And what I reply to that is that you are not honest enough to see through your own spiritual craving. You deliberately picked out a form of spirituality that suited you and now take any bias to reinforce it. I know that one problem about giving up long-cherished beliefs is losing one’s face. It was quite embarrassing for me to reveal to my social environment at some point that I had renounced my faith in the teachings of the Buddha. Since before for years I had been talking to people a lot about Buddhist philosophy and occasionally even tried to encourage other people to look at Buddhist teachings and win them over and so on, then at some point you having to admit that I found out that I was wrong and misguided was not all-too pleasant. And it was emotionally inconvenient as well. Since Buddhist spirituality guided my world-view and gave me purpose and direction, and then I had to realize that I was naked in the cold... Let us face the facts: I guess that in your situation it would be far more unpleasant, since you have created a huge identity around being „the spiritual guy‟ („god‟, that is...) along with even a long-standing Youtube channel were you have been delivering that stuff to the whole planet for a decade. If then at some point you have to realize that you were completely mistaken, admitting that would get you into big trouble. What is more: that would feed the trolls for years to come. So in a sense you are imprisoned by now. You have invested so much into it that you now have to stick to that stuff, since contradicting it by now would be a huge mess. If you ask me, I would nonetheless encourage you to take that step …but I know how the ego works. ;-) And when I now say that, I would not be surprised if spiritual people will try to ridicule me or come up with some clever paradoxical spiritual nonsense, or be ultra-loving (to show my non-compassion) or whatever ...since I „do not understand the spiritual complexity and succumb to the ego mechanisms‟ yada yada yada… the usual thought-terminating clichés, those knockout arguments which you in turn reproach the opposite side (the materialists) for, but generously commit yourself, and which, if you were able to let go of them, would enable you to see through your fallacies. „You see? You guys have spiritual egos trying to defend themselves. That’s all it is.‟ Frankly, if you ask me than you can go and buy yourself a scoop of ice cream for the great „insights‟ that you had while under the influence of hallucinogenics. Of course you can always claim that there is stuff that is not accessible to the rational mind. For obvious reasons: claiming that is a survival strategy. The rational mind is the natural enemy to your ridiculous beliefs. So for those beliefs to be able to survive, they need to delude people into thinking that there was anything that is not accessible to the rational mind... "You see? The ego trying to defend itself" ^^ If you were honest and careful in your arguments than you would admit that all that probably shows is that the brain seems to be able to perform fancy stuff while under the influence of drugs. Apply Occam’s Razor, for a change. There is no need to get spiritual about it. But if you go about it with the preconceived notion of non-duality, enlightenment, emptiness, and all that stuff, than of course that is what you can experience with drugs, it is just a confirmation bias. That’s all. Just the fact that you, admittedly, can hardly (if at all – which I doubt) gain access to this stuff by non-material ways, that is, by not resorting to a material substance, should show you that what you experience is induced by a material cause, and belongs to the material world only. You yourself once mentioned something along the lines of „trying to achieve these states without hallucinogenics‟ would be „a waste of time‟. But I know the way the cookie crumbles. Your egoic spiritual defense mechanisms will that and come up with fantasy. Why would I deny and fight against spirituality? Because I want to defend my materialist ego? Actually, I would love to live in a world that is mystical, spiritual and somehow endowed with meaning and direction, but I am honest and experienced enough to no longer fall for that lie. I don’t like to kid myself. I would like to see materialism proven wrong, but none of that spiritual stuff convinces me anymore. If your thinking is sharp enough, you notice the fallacies and trick of your mind quite easily. And why should scientists think differently than I do? What agenda should fuel their disenchantment of the world other than the quest for truth? Capitalism, perhaps? Lol. Ego business? How come? In fact, by disenchanting the world science has inflicted on us humans what Freud appropriately has called „narcissistic injuries‟. Narcissistic injuries neither serve capitalism nor the ego. They were simply inevitable with the progress of science. What spirituality (as a backlash, so to speak) has been trying to do is to re-enchant the world. But since science is so good, spirituality these days has to resort to especially tricky things and esoteric reasoning, that are often, say, of epistemological nature and cannot be downright falsified. So then if anyone tries to attack that spirituality, these attacks are suffocated and ridiculed, thereby using the same defense mechanisms that you are blaming the materialists for using them. You will, for instance, call materialists narrow-minded, or say that science has an ego is just trying to maintain itself by putting down spirituality. If you ask me, that is what you are doing. Science is just disenchanting the world with the gloves off. I am not in the least bit intimidated by your teachings, if that is what you think. What worse could the world get than what science has turned it into? To use one of your favourite phrases: „Stop bullshitting yourself!‟. In addition to that, I don’t know if you have ever noticed Leo, but what I personally don’t like about the way you teach is that you blurt some of your theories, for instance your series about the mechanisms of survival, as if you have realized something of ingenious brilliance and crazy significance, while in fact most people with some common sense or decent education are able to understand and are half-aware of this stuff, anyway. When I watched that episode I was literally just bored of it, even anticipating correctly what was to come. But you proclaim that stuff as if you speak from some kind of higher plane of existence. In your episode „Is gender a social construct‟ you ask something like: Where in the nature you find gender? And that nature does not now any such categories. Well, that is a good point. But then again, where in the nature you see your „spiral dynamics‟? Nature does not know such stuff. Would you mind applying that same constructivist skepticism to your own ideas (Spiral Dynamics, in this case), for a change? What I see is just growing complexity amongst society, resulting in people of more complex consciousness, sometimes even more refined consciousness, if you will. But to argue that we are developing along lines of spiral dynamics and categorizing people into stages of spiral dynamics is a coarse generalization. Why is it that some people can embody a range of many stages in one person? Because that same persons spirals through many levels of consciousness in one mind? Anyway, I do miss skepticism of you applied to your own teachings. You like what you teach and don’t bother to apply some skepticism to it, unless it serves your purposes. I think that you are over-confident, especially about your esoteric stuff, and it does not seem to me that you apply double standards, guided by your likes and dislikes. You proclaim your stuff without a shimmer of doubt, as if you were infallible, which I guess is necessarily to convince oneself and others of it. And you do not even shy away from defending your own carnal craving for an intimate relationship with the opposite sex that you mentioned in the episode about „Burning through karma‟ by simply redefining the ancient idea of karma to suit your purposes. Please look up the definition of karma as it is understood in Early Buddhism and recognize that you just like to gerrymander your spiritual ideas to your liking. Just as you like it. Because it serves your purposes. It is all ego business. Again, I think you have some quite valuable and insightful stuff on your channel. But I would like to encourage you to outgrow spirituality. And to stop deluding people. Alright, this shall do for now. I could go into this stuff with more detail, but I would like to hear an initial comment on it first. Best Karl-Heinz
