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Well I am mostly speaking from my own experience. To put it into context, I was very happy last sommer. Felt like 24/7 ecstasy almost. Felt like I had awakened. "Thought" 'I' was "done", enlightened. I had a very deep 2cb trip in June. Yet, when winter came, from September-February, I was very very depressed. Worst period was October-January, just 3-4 months filled with suicidal thoughts almost every hour I was awake. Wasn't that far from actually doing it - when it was worst, I planned it deliberately, and almost followed through. I suffered a lot. Deepest pit of depression. Yet, when I look back now, at my suffering, at all my major suicidal depressions (3 now, last 3 winters in fact), I can only see them as humbling, teaching experience. I have managed to transform the suffering into deep healing, wisdom, greater self-knowledge and more appreciation for my shadow and for - in general - what it means to be human.

I have been working on the LP course and have been deeply contemplating my life purpose. I feel various events in my life point to my purpose is within investing. I am just not sure how it can be done consciously. I am sure the LP will answer this as I continue my work. I bought the LP to see if this is truly my calling or if it is ego or survival driving this. I've been reading various things on the Forum regarding investing and it seems that the consensus of those I follow is it is a get rich quick scheme and not creative. That nothing from investing is being creative that adds value or contributes to the world. As a longtime investor, I would agree in many aspects. I started investing when I was in the military back in 2004-2008 after earning extra money overseas. For over a decade, I was obsessed and identified myself with building wealth. I am not wealthy, but have done well. I was fired from my job as an analyst in 2017 due to a trading error. My firing was also due to my opposition of a poor performing product that was to be included in the model portfolios which I strongly apposed and every other member of the committee approved. This didn't sit well with my boss, and the trading error was an excuse to fire me. Good news though!!! It triggered my awakening and this has been the most amazing, beautiful thing to ever happen to me. It was the fork in the road to a path which is guiding me to the Truth. Since the start of my awakening, my attachment to money has dissolved. I used to put on a pedestal milestones of account values. I just hit one of them, but it didn't matter to me. I invested without restriction for a long time, but as I've awakened, this has changed. I am much more mindful of what I invest in, for instance, no oil companies, tobacco, etc. My 2020 performance was really life transforming which led me to the urge and feeling that I need to do this for others, not just me. To many people are under-served. I feel the financial services industry is loaded with people with massive egos (I was one of them ). I take the investing approach as being more of a business rather than ownership in paper. True ownership of a business, impacting lives all around. Some companies I've owned for over 10 years. The investment industry has much regulation (rightfully so) so creative power is limited. This is an issue if always had with the business. I work as a credit analyst now. I feel the organization is conscious, but the work is limited. I can do far, far more and it is time to move on. Perhaps helping no profits would be a niche for me. For an example, I guided a non-profit on how to sell their Bitcoin, they had no idea how to do it. I could manage portfolios with companies that have high consciousness values. This isn't new, but would be a way. Could it be just through conscious, deeply present interactions with clients along with a conscious investment philosophy? I've thought starting a YouTube channel and still might, but feel there are many out there but I feel most are low consciousness, click bait, talking up what they own type of Channels. There are many paths I outline here. By no means am I starting a business in investing now or perhaps ever. It depends what the Life Purpose Course result will be. I love the idea of spiritual teaching as I have healed from a lot of trauma from the military, but that's what Leo is for Right now, I am doing the LPC and contemplating this as a possible life purpose given my path thus far, skills, passion, and intuition. I just need to see if it is correct. Soooooo... Does a conscious investing Life Purpose exist?

@Inliytened1@ i can't remove the tag i just write my thoughts on the topic. Well yes there is no free will. There is suffering that happens to people and some people are able to wake up while some are not. I would say that brains don't play a role (unless a genetic freak) but rather the experiences someone has, the suffering that is experienced, the discovery of the right spiritual teaching at the right time, a willingness to stop the suffering and the basic intelligence to understand a simple teaching. Maybe it has more to do with luck after all that generates the desire and gives the right tools. I'm not an Eckhart Tolle funboy i just know that applying his books someone can awaken. Let's leave the deeper stages out, still awakening is powerful. It has to do with returning in the now and eventually living only in the now while deconstructing the ego bit by bit. It's basically meditating and self inquiring always or another way to put it only now from now on. How can someone not awaken when this is understood and there is the desire to awaken. It's just developing the ability to go meta on every emotion, thought, belief or ego games returning to the now. The i don't belong to the spiritually gifted people is an identity and a limiting belief that can be let go off by self inquiring. It's just the art of letting go everything and living in the now. This is what i experienced. This can become a way of living. I can't talk about psychedelics because my experience is small but glimpses didn't stay in the now after the high unless they do but this wasn't my experience. If i could trip i would. Maybe in the future. I feel the need to write this. I am not awakened. I was 10 years ago for 1 month and it was something unforgettable. My life was complicated that's why it was harder to sustain it. However trying to practice this only for one day recently was extremely effective. I do feel that i have a choice in the matter even if that means me finding out again that i am not real. In a sense i know this and just pretend that i don't.

Tho there is no end to personal development, there is a definitive point that limiting beliefs, grief, fear, insecurities, and shadow work as a whole reach an end. Where most of your experience will no longer be affected by any of it, it happens when you are fully developed and awakened. So follow your heart and keep working at it.

@BipolarGrowth nicely said but I don't 100% agree with the statement that a finite self cannot preserve goodness up to the human limit without it being super ego. I mean yes you will never be 100% selfless without accepting ABSOLUTELY everything...but then again the doing so would be, in the end, humanities undoing. (imo) ..humans are humans afterall.. I think when you have a society of all awakened beings I think it could flourish because all actions would be coming through the direct manifestation of the Godhead while still taking care to preserve survival. It is indeed, a delicate balance. Just my take. This is very advanced stuff

Just my 2 cents Head voice = ego, superego, and uncontrolled imagination Heart voice = awakened conscience and purified emotional center In spiritual sleep, conscience is buried in the subconscious.

TWO AND ONLY TWO PATHS-------------------------------------------UC's response on Manas da's post on yogi and devotee------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As we have two Self---------the false Self (ego) and the real Self (inner self), there are only two basic paths, diametrically opposite----- the path of surrender and the path of will. But they reach to the same goal.--------------------------------------------------- The path of will starts with the inner Self. To be aware of our acts, is directly concerned with awakening our inner Self. If the inner Self is awakened, the ego disappears. If the light is brought, the darkness disappears.----------------------------------------- The path of surrender is directly concerned with the ego, not with the Self. When the ego disappears, the inner Self is awakened automatically. When the darkness goes, the light shines.------------------- The yogi is on the path of will and the bhakta is on the path of surrender. The yogi is trying to be aware and the bhakta is trying to be totally lost. -UC K

Weird haven't watched this dude in a while, used to be really good as he interviewed some great guests and asked thought provoking questions, even liked his documentaries. Did he have this in him all along or was it something Dan Pena awakened and fueled because he was nowhere near the person he was now like 2 years ago

Persistent baseline non-duality (I initially hesitated to write that, idk why), meaning ~95% of the time (or when blood sugar is stable). It's essentially when you stabilize around the most basic experience of no self. So-called "awakened people" stabilize right below that threshold and may dip in and out ("awakenings"). This is still just the most basic level. There are deeper levels (various maps and disciplines have described this), and in some sense, it's infinite.

Im awakened to fucking everything. My ego has shut down its connection to love. The universe said to me very explicitly, I just need a little patience and then I will get high on love. Thats all. God's Ego is out and materialized into this post ha.

As I've shared before, I find little value in esoteric explorations. I don't discredit them, I just don't see them as helpful for spiritual growth. Levitating "for real" doesn't lessen suffering, or develop unconditional love. The Buddha didn't teach most of what he knew. He restricted his teachings to the dharma, or the spiritual path out of suffering and into enlightenment. Seeking a miracle will never deliver true freedom, which is only directly realized from within. Siddhis are supernatural powers, which some rare few are capable of. From my perspective, they can be dangerous, unless someone is truly awakened, because there is a significant risk that they will amplify the ego. It is easy to fall into the trap of feeling special when one is gifted in a particular siddhi. Specialness is the calling card of the ego, and the opposite of awakening.

I don't know where to post this, but it's about "kriyas" (sponatenous movements caused by kundalini energy). This singer is what you could consider a one in a million natural talent, but what I'm interested about is her hand movements. It reminds me very much of kriyas in the sense that they're fast-paced, smooth and erratic all at the same time. Might she have an awakened kundalini? I tend to get a really a substantial "contact high" so to speak from listening to her. Maybe she was born with it as well (could explain her unique talent and personality). I know of one other person who claims he was born with an awakened kundalini (Jan Esmann), and he is a professional hyperrealist painter, extremely talented.

I've made the most progress with a therapist that is green/yellow that does MDMA therapy and psychedelics. I personally look for someone spiritually awakened. It may not be the case for you and if someone that isn't helps you that is great. I personally have felt emotionally cold and neglected around CBT heavy stage orange rational therapists. They are at a stage where they aren't emotionally developed enough to give the reflection I look for in a therapist. Not for me, transpersonal from here on out but not someone who is cringy tryhard overly positive green. There are spiritually awake, mature yellow therapists out there. Takes time to find though.

@ShugendoRa I've been scammed by awakened beings. Imagine what a tarot girl would do.

How about the millions of natives/ancestors who fucking loved psychedelics to the point they were in many cases central parts of their culture? Stop giving a shit what these disconnected & ethnocentric “nondual” teachers say in all scenarios. They have a system or ideology to promote and are aligned against anything outside of that whether they are awakened or not. Just one example — the Aztecs called psilocybin mushrooms Teonanácatl. This means either flesh of the gods or flesh of god.

therapy with a conscious professional who is holistic and accounts for spirituality in their practice and has awakened themselves. the modality itself usually isn't what is most important I've found.

You mistake yourself for actions, thoughts and others philosophies. How do you know that you are the devil? Because you do things that are out of alignment with your desire to be kind & loving? Does that not tell you that your basic inclination is Love? That what you really want is to love your brothers and sisters, including yourself? Does not sound like a devil to me, more like a case of mistaken identity. You are trying to understand that you are God through intellectual understanding. It won't happen. God is prior to intellect, and also prior to everything anyone ever says. I do not care who says it. God is prior to what I say too. You are not the devil. You are not God either. You do not exist. You are only a fiction in the mind, and so is Leo, and me. Can you for a moment seize striving? Seize trying? I really mean it. What if you do not need anyone's conceptual understanding or framework? No matter how lofty and beautiful. Trust in The God Within to guide you instead of humans. Yes, humans are a manifestation of God, but humans are not God any more than plants are. Everyone and Everything is God, yes. But only God is YOUR God. Only God is ultimately reliable, and always True. Humans are wonderful and fickle. We keep changing our minds. We have loads of opinions and assumptions. Even "after" Awakening we carry a lot of our notions and beliefs with us, and translate them into "Awakened" lingo. God Within you is your Guru and True Teacher. God may (and does) teach you through "other" human beings. All are your teachers, but only God is The Teacher. Talk to God, your Heart, your True Being. Tell Him (I like the word Him, but obviously God is him/she/it, all of it and none of it) that you want to come to know what your Heart already knows, knowingly. Ask to see what God sees. Ask God to show you that you are already God and to take you beyond all concepts and ideas. Including the concept and the idea of you. Just remain open, and keep talking to God. Forget about the "how's" and the "why's". Remain open, willing and innocent. Like a Child. A Child of God who wants to know its Source and Origin. Who longs to know The Truth that only God Is. Surrender to your Inner Being, do not surrender to anyone else. Do not surrender to me. Only to God. Read this with an open heart and a mind that is willing: http://heavenletters.org/the-one-god.html

I’ve already said that I rightly belong within some category of rednecks and there is a wide variety of categories. The same goes with Academics. Leo raked Academics in general over the coals pretty good in his last video. I put in that little preamble/disclaimer, what ever it is, so I could take the opportunity to pile on. In his book Higher Being Bodies, Ocke de Boer discuses the differing views of two well known Dutch Scientists. One a cardiologist and the others neurologist. When the neurologist starts making fun of the cardiologist for stating that consciousness can be seen apart from the brain and he begins to comment on spirituality, Ocke says he begins to embody a strange mixture of arrogance and humbleness— so often to be found in academics. That little quote really stuck with me. Probably because I got a big chuckle out of it This is the section of the book where Ocke is discussing the scale of Being. Human #4 is someone who has balanced their centers and is awoke somewhat.Human #4 knows that they are in Plato’s cave. This is a big achievement. Humans #1, #2, and #3 are lopsided in one of the centers, instinctual, emotional, or intellectual. Anyone who is awakened, which are humans #5 #6, and #7 knows that real intelligence means the position of a phenomenon in the scale of Being, and the influences to which this phenomenon is open in relation to higher worlds. They also know that they have to hide, if they don’t want to be pecked to death. For anyone who has studied Gurdjieff or the Fourth Way, I highly recommend Ocke de Boers two books. Higher Being Bodies and Two Souls. If you haven’t already studied Gurdjieff’s Works, I don’t think you’ll get much from them. I have to confess though that I’m somewhere between believing and knowing Some of the phenomena I know, but not all.

The best for humanity is that politicians say that they want, spiritual master wants you to wake up. i have listened to shadguru many times and I always see that he treats you like a child. waking up is not for you, for you there are certain practices to live better. true awakening is for higher beings, like him, who remembers his reincarnations in which he had a guru, and that is why in this life he has awakened without a guru, and the superpowers..... do you believe it? It's your decision.

Kinda hate to break it to ya, but you’re focusing on thoughts & beliefs which don’t feel good to you... which don’t feel good...because they are...off...and using “awakening” or “having awakened to young / early” as the reason. It’s not the reason, it’s just that the thoughts are off. Humble pie tastes like liberation, the recognition control, death, etc, are thoughts, while reality is pure spontaneous infinite love. Rather than ‘coping’ as a remedy... inspect the non-resonating thoughts directly...and it is found there is nothing in need of coping with. “Epistemic truth paradox” is also just one thought...which can be inspected, scrutinized, realized, as there ultimately are not any paradoxes.

@Carl-Richard this is awesome This decade we will constantly see “more” awakened Actors, athletes, celebrities etc etc Of course we can’t have more as we are all that! ? But, more will become conscious of their own being, and I can’t wait for it!

I don't agree. Mania is like a high. It can be addictive just like a drug. Are you able to maintain that "awakened" state? Or do you afterwards fall into a deep depression?

Has anyone else experienced this "Uno reverse card" in thinking? When I first started doing practices to discover my true nature, I scoffed at and scrutinized Leo's videos, thinking "Well if it's really true, how the fuck can a person even know it?! That's impossible!" Deep down I felt like it was really possible, I was just resisting. In the beginning, I thought "how can reality feel different than the 'separate self' way, as a human body 'here' and the world 'there,' that I am familiar with?" There's a lot I could say about the middle part of "my" journey, but let's just fast-forward to today. Over the past few days, I've had a feeling that I am the whole entire experience arising in front and behind my face, complete with ZERO control. It reminded me of the jokes people make about awakening: "It's like jumping out of an airplane and never having a ground to land on." But now, I am thinking, "Wait, how come 'this' isn't obvious?! It's the most obvious thing ever! Once you've crossed that non-existent boundary between not knowing 'this' and knowing 'this,' you have the feeling that it should be common knowledge that we are 'born' with. Complete reversal from "You can't know that," to "How do you not know that?" Shocking paradox... Can anyone relate to this? I've been having lots of internal resistance to these deep insights over the past few days. I do not consider myself enlightened, but I've had some big and small glimpses, and last night was one of them. My mind was blank, I was speechless, and I felt like I couldn't do any "practical human stuff." Is there anybody reading this who thought they awakened 'too early in life.' (I know that might be a silly question for a number of reasons, but I'm seriously questioning whether I should take a break from spiritual practices for a bit. On the one hand I feel like it's too late and 'my life' has already ended. I am D-E-A-D, and I just need to accept that. On the other hand, I feel like I'm going insane because I'm constantly thinking about awakening-stuff, when I have all of this human stuff I want to focus on too.) Much love~

I respect your sincere pursuit of truth, and your desire not to insult other people. As I see it, the degree to which someone feels offended is an indication of their ego. If someone has truly awakened, why would they ever feel insulted in the first place, given that the nature of the realization is that we are all the same Consciousness? Is it possible to insult yourself? You mentioned that you have had profound insights about reality. How do you reconcile those insights with the realization that as humans we know nothing? My answer: Direct insights arise from Consciousness, and are non-conceptual. As humans, we can know nothing conceptually, except that we know nothing. We can only directly realize truth, free from concepts. You don't come across as feeling superior to others because of your personal insights. Perhaps others, who have had insights along the lines of what Aldous Huxley mentioned, similarly don't feel superior to you. To the contrary, the very nature of the core realization is that we are all the same, and there is no inferiority/superiority

@Leo Gura I think I see more of what you mean. When we look at the future through a doomsday lens we are basically being victims. We are working toward being powerful creators and every thing is just perfect we just need to increase our awareness to see it. Forgive me Leo when I fall asleep or get lost. I know you know how big and hard this is for us as we grow into fully awakened Gods. I feel like I am just becoming online and I still have ups and down. There are so many Axioms to develop and states to maintain. I am the planet so, just trust in God.