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Can't you see how dumb that statement is. If you're truly nothing, then nothing would be happening at all, not even in appearance. But something IS happening, so this nothingness thing is utter stupidity. There IS a component of nothingness to the Truth, but it's only half of the equation. You've seen half of the equation and aren't open to the idea that your understanding of reality could be partial, no, you are 100% bulletproof right in your head, that's being closed minded and dogmatic.

@Shin He should. Lol Ik you’re joking but no you can’t be nothingness, otherwise it wouldn’t be nothingness. If nothingness was part of god that would make it a thing.

@Gregory1 Yeah you believe that lmao here I’ll imagine that you can prove it to me. Go ahead. But no, nothingness isn’t apart of god because that would make it a thing. You’re not understanding nothingness.

But wait. There's no self to be GOD, no self to be nothingness. No self to be self and no self to be no self. There's not even a self to say there's no self to be no self. Of course, no self has to make sure not to forget to add the word 'apparently".

You're nothingness, stop being stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking otherwise.

because belief itself is truth that arises form from nothingness

My journey started 4 years ago, rather involuntarily. I basically thought on one day (I was 19 years old) that I was dying, accompanied by suicidal thoughts that didn't come from a place of true love, they just appeared out of nowhere whilst a part of the brain felt like it broke. The security-web of the ever-present, ignorant, unconscious belief patterns were within one day shattered into nothingness. Pain and suffering were on their peak. I was losing my mind, I was completely utterly broken to the point I didn't believe in sanity anymore. I was just there. I couldn't pinpoint who was there. It was just me. I faced my own death, not one time, not two times, the journey was filled with dozen times of letting go of "self-referential thoughts", everything that was left then was just nothing but presence. If anyone goes through something similar, trust in the process, trust the love. I know what it's like when you fear yourself, when you think and believe that you don't exist. I didnt know what happened, but everytime presence shines through, I know what I am, who I am, with an unshakable trust in Love and my Self.

It is truly amazing that there still are so many people on all these forums that talk about being spiritual, that we are just imagined beings, that this reality is not physical at all, that this is just a dream state, "we are all God", this is nothing but nothingness, Love is all you need, etc……. And yet these very same people run back to there little EGO lives full of Fear, Hate, and Anger if someone doesn’t cooperate in the Mass Collective Madness! OR, If someone has a different POV. This Pandemic is not about Pro-vax or Anti Vax, Democrat or Republican etc…. It’s about facing your fears and asking yourself, why are we individually and collectively creating this Pandemic and this Madness? That’s the Meta question! If you truly believe you are Nothingness, Absolute God, that this is just a dream etc. Then what’s the problem? Walk your talk, and stop pointing the finger! Just sharing a few thoughts, ideas, and beliefs!

A nonrealization or nonexperience Nothingness ❤

@Judy2 And nothingness is none of that, nonexistence. Which you can’t experience, only realize. It isn’t even a void, which is another state. And the trap people falling into is thinking infinity, being, god, formlessness, and the void are nothingness. True nothingness is in the background of everything that can be experienced, even emptiness. And that makes it the deepest realization, because you can’t get more nothing than nothing.

@Judy2 And I corrected myself earlier, I meant nothingness when I said emptiness in the beginning. But now that I’m being clearer with definitions, emptiness is empty space, which exists and you can feel it, making it a thing. This is where people don’t understand, and believe god is deeper. They mistake emptiness with true absence of existence.

@Judy2 It is, but that doesn’t make it nothingness. It makes it emptiness. The difference is formlessness is empty space, going on and on forever, which is within existence, and nothingness is just nothing. Nothingness can’t go on and on forever like infinity, because there’s nothing to go on and on forever.

@Judy2 Like I said, I didn’t make up my own definitions but used the official ones, to clearly say what I mean. Saying god is nothingness is wrong because ultimate reality exists, making it something. And formlessness does not mean nothingness. The only conclusion I can come to is that people haven’t realized it yet, or experienced formlessness and assumed god is deeper. All things have to be within nothing, because nothing is outside infinity. There is not mistake in words.

@Judy2 And I’m using the official definitions, to be clear by what I mean. People making up their own definitions leads to confusion, like saying god is nothingness. Ultimate reality or god is not nothingness, because nothingness isn’t reality. Reality is existence.

@Judy2 The reason enlightened masters say stateless state, and keep going, is so people don’t fall into this trap. Formlessness is not nothingness and you can see first hand. You realize god is everything, formlessness and form, and then that leads you to believe formlessness is nothingness. No, if it exists, it’s a thing.

@Judy2 No, formlessness is empty space, that goes on and on forever meaning it exists. Nothingness is non existence. You can only realize nothingness and that existence is within it. If you can experience it, then it’s not nothingness. They are not the same because one of them you can’t experience, and they have a different definition.

@Shin I’ve experienced god on 5meo, I even mentioned it in the op. You can speculate whether I actually did or not, but I can tell you formlessness/god/infinity is infinite space that you can experience, are not nothingness, by definition or by experience. They are things, they can create and go on and on forever. You can only realize nothingness, and that they are within it. Nothing is outside infinity, meaning infinity is within nothingness. Empty space is a thing, that’s why you can experience it. You haven’t realized nothingness if you’re saying it’s god, and you’re also misdefining it.

@Judy2 Nope. Not confusing words. Nothingness and formlessness are not the same by definition or experience. Formlessness and infinity is empty space going on forever, and nothingness is nothingness, you can’t experience it. But you can realize infinity is within it.

@Judy2 Literally my post was me describing I infinity and god, then realizing it’s within nothingness. They’re different. And then people came arguing with language, so I made it clear what I mean.

@Judy2 I experienced god on 5meo, and it is different than true nothingness. I realized it is within nothingness. Yes you can’t describe infinity and nothingness with words, but you can see first hand they are different. You can only realize nothingness. Otherwise, you’re just describing something.

@peanutspathtotruth The post is me describing an experience, so no it isn’t just words, it’s words describing an experience. And no, I’m not lost in mind, because I’m not the one arguing. I simply posted what I went through, and when people misunderstand I explain. You’re not aware of nothingness, and you mistake it for formlessness. I’ve experienced infinity and formlessness, and nothingness is different. So, no it’s not just words it’s arguing an experience and you’re trying to tell me what I experienced, because you’re lost in mind and assumptions

@Judy2 I am aware of formlessness, and it is not nothingness. I’ve explained it already. If you experience it, then it’s not true nothingness. You can only realize nothingness. You’re confusing formlessness with nothingness.

This nothingness is God. God is everything cause it's nothing in the first place. Nothing is the same as everything, cause everything is made of nothing aka God. This nothing can create an infinite amount of distinctions and states of consciousness out of thin air. Or he can just be one with itself without any of those. It still is the same thing cause it can't be more itself than itself. Even now being clueless about this in direct experience is still God.

As a matter of fact, it IS just arguing words what you do, literally. I've done my best, last reply too, you lost multiple people now. Maybe that can be a sign to you. You're very lost in mind. Before replying into nothingness, please, for your own sake, see that it's not an attack. But maybe there is a little tiny pinch of truth to that. Maybe you're just very lost in thinking. Experience/realization, thing/no-thing. All of it is irrelevant to what is being said here and all of it is literally just a concept. That's all it is. Realization is now in this very experience, has no name and doesn't argue about what it is or is not, since being x or y is a duality like any other. Either you see reality clearly right now or you don't. All the best to you my friend, give some attention to your heart. Won't come back here. ??

@peanutspathtotruth NO-THING. Anything that exists is a thing, meaning nothing is nonexistence. Literally couldn’t be more clear with my words. God- Ultimate reality, meaning it exists. Infinity goes on and on forever, and only a thing can go on and on forever. So nothingness is not a thing. And you guys are arguing it is. And I am not saying the same thing, I’ve been very clear that existence does not equal nothingness.