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In many of Leo's videos, he refers to the body as a "bio-machine." He also refers to the body-mind as a complex supercomputer which no one gave you an instruction manual to operate. He speaks of "jailbreaking" the mind, how heavy metals can affect your consciousness even if they are completely imaginary. I agree with all of this. The body is literally a bio-machine, and to optimize it, direct experience alone is insufficient to reach this goal. Unfortunately, Leo has made the mistake of applying the one criterion necessary for spirituality (direct experience) to the domain of health and nutrition. Think about it: can you deeply understand a computer without reading and learning many fields of knowledge (programming, engineering, etc.). I would say no way. The same goes for health; you cannot simply rely on your direct experience; you need data, you need science. You can definitely be healthy without knowing the science of nutrition/biology, as many people in history were before science was even a thing. However, if you seek to understand the body and optimize it as efficiently and perfectly as possible, you need data, science, studies, books, research, and direct experience. Leo has made many claims that are quite frankly ridiculous such as: "There is no proof green tea is safe. Again, these are mostly myths and dogmas people blindly believe." To which I replied: "No, Leo, these are not simply myths. Green tea has literally been used on cancer patients, and it has shown in both in vitro studies and human clinical trials to:- interfere with each of the stages of cancer formation: the initiation of the first cancer cell, promotion into a tumor, and then subsequent progression and spread Genoprotective effects Boost the DNA-repair enzyme in our body called OGG1 after consumption. (In fact, tea is so DNA-protective it can be used for sperm storage for fresh samples until they can be properly refrigerated.) It can cause cancer cells to commit suicide—apoptosis (programmed cell death)—while leaving normal cells alone. Reduce the risk of getting oral cancer. It can also increase the antioxidant power of our saliva and decrease the DNA damage within the inner cheek cells of smokers. Our good gut bacteria ferment tea compounds into compounds like 3,4DHPA, which appears to wipe out colon cancer cells, while leaving normal colon cells relatively intact in vitro. Does tea prevent cancer? Evidence from laboratory and human intervention studies Epidemiological evidence linking tea consumption to human health: a review Effects of single-dose and regular intake of green tea (Camellia sinensis) on DNA damage, DNA repair, and heme oxygenase-1 expression in a randomized controlled human supplementation study Preventive effects of drinking green tea on cancer and cardiovascular disease: epidemiological evidence for multiple targeting prevention. If thousands of years of historical use, thousands of research studies (meta-analysis, clinical trials, cohort, etc.), as well many people's own personal and direct experience of regularly drinking tea and deriving benefits with no documented evidence of risk and NO RISK OF fluorosis (because green tea naturally contains fluoride), is not enough to convince you that drinking tea even if it has fluoride is healthy and safe and will not give you cancer.... Then, I mean no offense, but you are too ignorant on the subject of health and nutrition to give an opinion one way or another." -End of Reply. When presented with evidence to the contrary, Leo will reply, and I quote: "I would not trust any sources on this matter." or "Nobody knows what is safe for the body. There is no such evidence. Hence caution is required." However, Leo is very keen on stating the safety profile for psychedelics (physical safety). Very biased, in my opinion. This is what happens when you rely on " your direct experience," it simply does not cut it, and you will be so confused you'll start to think green tea, and fluoride toothpaste is carcinogenic but a carnivore diet is not. Unfortunately, Leo's fixation on heavy metals because of his "direct experience" with heavy metal poisoning has also made him and many others on the forum obsessed with heavy metal detox and constantly discussing heavy metals while ignoring the plethora of other, more common, and more detrimental chemicals (such as Persistent organic pollutants, trans fat, polycyclic aromatic-hydrocarbons, and bovine hormones, microplastics) that many of you consume without even batting an eye. As well as many harmful chemicals produced in the body naturally, such as reactive oxygen species, ammonia, beta-amyloid, gut dysbiosis. The body is a system and to play a symphony you need more than one instrument. For example, fats can dramatically increase the damage done by heavy metals, yet no one speaks of this; it is all so very reductionistic. This is very counterproductive to our health goals. This is not an attack on Leo. This is constructive criticism. I wish Leo and all of you good health.

@Loba He literally quoted Leo before he did it. I’m sure his family would like you smarting off about it have you ever had someone close to you be mentally ill or commit suicide? I’m being a “white knight” so stuff like this doesn’t happen again. Lol I hate when incels throw around that term my post has nothing to do with you dehumanizing women from your lack of sex.

Dear God, It's been 8 months since my awakening. This is when i knew. This is when spirituality became a fact. A lot of work has been done but the kickback... I cant! I am sure I am not the only one. Give me advise. What to DO if i am stuck in between? Leo, many like me need advise. You are running too far ahead. In particular I need to know how to combine self-development with spirituality. So far its been farce dealing with both at once! TLDR; Ego kickback so bad I am getting bad ideas... No not suicide, instead its zen-devilry...is it the fate of this body? Respecfully, You

@Raphael I have severe social anxiety. So I rarely talk to people. I feel scared around people. So I work from home. I want Emotional support because I feel alone. I also suffer depression and suicidal ideation which is extremely difficult to remove from my head. I have been suicidal since I was a kid I used to see my parents fighting. It gave rise to anxiety disorder. I have been on medication but the medication caused me heart rhythm problems so I stopped it. I suffered PTSD because of the beatings and mental abuse I received as a child. That's when suicidal feelings began I also started doing self harm. These days I have been able to control self harm behaviour significantly. But the feelings of suicide keep haunting me. I feel like death will bring freedom from a trapped life because I always felt trapped as a child My biggest desire was to not be born into that family. I wish one day I get freedom and then I will be a free bird at last. I try to think everday about it. Somehow I can be free from this family .I feel very bad for my dad. He died. I feel like he died because he wanted freedom so bad that his body became sick spiritually and delivered freedom to him Last week my mother told .me - "why don't you just die because you are anyways a loser like your dad. And even if you don't die I'll kill you." Since then I began getting nightmares and in those nightmares I see her strangling my neck while I'm asleep and trying to kill me and I wake up in deep fear shouting and screaming out of fear. I feel like her agenda is to handicap me for life so she can continue abusing and controlling me Because she wanted my dad to be sick and so he got sick..she used to deny him medication. When I was 14 I needed medication for my lung infection but she denied it .I needed money for medical help. I only needed $10. But she refused. My lung infection became worse and I suffered permanent lung injury and breathing problems. She denied me medical help many times because of which my health problems became much worse. I often get unconscious because of my breathing issues and I easily get tired if I have to walk. I quit my previous job because it was a 9-5 job that made my breathing problem worse because it required traveling. So I work from home. But she does not allow me to focus on work. She keeps harassing and bullying. Police will not do anything to her because police believe parents are like God in India. I once told the police about her behaviour when I was 14 that she is abusing the whole family but the police told me that a mother can never abuse a child. They told me to go back to her As a child I ran away from her many many times but everytime I was captured by police and sent back to live with her I feel like she doesn't want me to leave her because she is an abuser. And she will do everything in her power to stop me from leaving. She likes the sense of power and control. She also gave me death threats many times if I decided to leave. In the year 2019 month of December tried to leave after I collected my savings from my job and I got a place on rent. Then she came to the place. She went to police and made a false complaint against me that I'm not taking care of her and abandoning her. So the police came to my place and ordered me to go back to her or allow her to live with me or else they will send me to jail.. Because of her I started hating bossy women because bossy women are more dangerous then abusive men. Bossy women like her can make false complaints to police and put people in trouble. In India there are many privileges for parents. Parents are treated like Gods. There are no privileges for children. Many Indian parents treat children like bonded slaves. She is treating me like a slave. If I leave her, she tells me that I'll be in trouble. But once I have enough money ,I will try to have enough courage to leave her cage she has created for me There are millions of children in India suffering child abuse. Many children commit suicide at the age of 14 because of parents abuse and torture. There is no justice. Police does not register a case against parents . They make it look like it's the fault of children to be so weak and commit suicide . It is not seen as a problem although the rate of teens and children committing suicide is increasing everyday but it is brushed under the carpet The concept of child abuse does not exist in India. The law exists but it's namesake law, there is no implementation. There is rampant child abuse where parents beat children mercilessly. They pressure children psychologically and abuse them emotionally. If the child decides to leave then there is emotional blackmailing, threatening and police threats. CPC or child protection service exists in America. But it doesn't exist in India. There are no foster homes.. either you live with abusive parents or you commit suicide if parents are bad Children who suffer child abuse are sent back to abusing parents. When I was a child I complained to my teachers about child abuse but they didn't take it seriously. I hope no child is born to Indian parents If I ever decide to finally die, my last words will be a curse to a culture that tortures children and takes away their rights. If I die I won't die simply, I will write long letter explaining how child abuse ruined my whole life and the person who abused me will never rest in peace, I will seek justice even in death. My soul will keep seeking justice, my death won't be in vain. We need a revolution in my country regarding abused children. Something has to happen. Somebody has to hear the screams of children crying in pain. Somebody has to bring justice to millions of children who suffer PTSD in my country the way I suffered, millions who committed suicide because they could not escape their parents evil torture. Maybe one day a revolution will come Parents who commit abuse belong in prison. They should not have the license to become parents in the first place. Indian parents are extremely controlling. This is already a known fact. But the problem is not limited to control. There is blackmail, threatening, gaslighting, isolating, invalidation and the extreme form of this is harassment and physical violence. Even normal indian parents who don't beat are difficult to live with because they control every aspect of the child's life. And the abusive ones are extremely hard to deal with. There the only way to deal is legal action to stop abuse/violence. But the court doesn't believe children/adults. The court always believes parents. The judgement is always in favor of parents even if parents are abusive I pray one day I get freedom from my horrible family and I get peace at last. If I save enough money for next 3 years maybe I can get a place to live and I can have enough money to go to court if she makes threats or goes to police. So I'm focused on saving money but right now it's impossible to get freedom. She is very violent. Last year I had an injury on my arm because she hit me so badly. She hit me with a bat. When I showed it to police, they told me that I'm making unnecessary drama. I was in hospital because I was not able to move my arm . It was very sad

I'm facing active abuse from my family and it's very difficult to open up about it. I kinda feel shameful to admit that my family is treating me worse than an animal. And I don't have the resources to escape this situation. So I'm stuck and trapped. And my only solution is to pray to God to get me out of this. I feel like the walls are closing in on me and my last option would be suicide to escape this horrible mental destruction I'm facing. My mental state is declining everyday and my physical health is deteriorating rapidly I feel like I'm staring into darkness.

My favourite actor and someone who I had been following recently has passed away yesterday. And there were so many spiritual questions simply coming up yesterday in my mind. I cried vehemently for hours feeling the pain. At the same time, my mind was bombarded with so many questions that it was impossible to answer them but I could feel some sort of sadness. And I felt that his death was some sort of ominous message to the world. In India conditions are really bad so a lot of people are simply fleeing the country out of frustration. It is merely impossible to survive in this country, the population exploding, the resource crunch, it feels like the land is getting drier and drier Most people don't know about India because they are not living in India so they believe the news media which always tries to portray India as a nation that will turn into a huge economy but people are very unaware of the daily struggles in this country. On paper everything looks good but in reality there are too many problems which are going to be extremely dangerous. You have to live in India in order to experience the reality here. The reality is very brutal.. And even if India appeared to be doing well on the international front, there is a different side that people have not seen, poverty rates are increasing, things are getting worse, medical help is zero , millions are suffering depression, huge number of suicides is an everyday reality, families are breaking, stress is very high. Farmers in india are committing suicide in large numbers. I think the agony of the farmers who killed themselves, is slowly turning into a curse that will grip the nation.

Both countries are very rich in natural resources, Iraq in oil, Kosovo in mineral resources such as lignite totaling 12.5 billion tonnes, which it claims are the second largest in Europe and fifth largest in the world. Also: The Trepča Mines (Albanian: Miniera e Trepçës, Serbian: Рудник Трепча / Rudnik Trepča) is a large industrial complex in Kosovo, located 9 km (5.6 mi) northeast of Mitrovica. The mine is located on the southern slopes of the Kopaonik mountain, between the peaks of Crni Vrh (1,364 m (4,475 ft)) and Majdan 1,268 m (4,160 ft), and it is Europe's largest lead-zinc and silver ore mine. Kosovo was historically a mining district for the former Yugoslavia. The industrial complex Trepça in Mitrovica "was the largest mining operation in the former Yugoslavia". During the time of Yugoslavia, Kosovo possessed 50% of all of Yugoslavia's nickel reserves, 36% of lignite, 48% of lead and zinc reserves, 47% of the magnesium reserves, and 32.4% of kaolinite reserves. During this time, mining was Kosovo's growth engine; however, the sector faced a decline from the 1990s. Kosovo's main mineral resources are: lead, zinc, silver, nickel, cobalt, chrome, lignite, copper, bauxite, magnesium, iron, and several industrial minerals such as: kaolin, bentonite, quartz, halloysite, diatomite, garnet, asbestos, and leucites. Mineral resources in Kosovo are estimated to be worth 13.5 billion euros, based on a survey by the Directorate for Mines and Minerals and the World Bank, from which 6.5 billion euros are attributed to the Mine in Sibofc alone, 3 billion to Trepča, 2 billion to Ferronikel and another 2 billion to other resources across Kosovo. Although the former director for mines and minerals, Hengstmann, claimed of this value, the expert for mines, Adil Januzi claimed that Kosovo's natural resources are of even higher value since Kosovo possesses the only lignite of over 13 billion tonnes. The industrial complex Trepča alone possesses more than 60 mineral species that have been identified thus far. Both are Muslim majority countries. Though Iraq has a lot of religious sectarianisms such as the Sunni and Shia split and ethnic such as with the Kurds and Iraqis, while the Kosovars are only Sunni and only ethnic splits are the Serb minority which lives in the north which only takes up 4% of the population. A number of Sunni fundamentalists and salafist Albanians, which yes do exist in the region and are particularly from Northern Macedonia, gathered recruits and went to the Middle East to join ISIS in the 'lesser jihad' in significant numbers from 2014 to 2018 and even tried to carry out terrorist suicide bomb attacks on American military bases in the region. I have reports from this time period to back this up. Also, the OP wrote in his response to me in this thread that regular Iraqis considered themselves ancient people and the descendants of the ancient Mesopotamians and Babylonians, well so do the Albanians! They identify their ethnic descendants as the ancient paleo-Balkan tribes who settled the Balkan territories in the 4th century BC in the times even before when it was made up of Roman provinces and before the Slav migration and settlements in the 6th century such as the Dardanians, the Illyrians, and the Thracians. Papazoglu 1978, p. 131 ''the Dardanians ... living in the frontiers of the Illyrian and the Thracian worlds retained their individuality and, alone among the peoples of that region, succeeded in maintaining themselves as an ethnic unity even when they were militarily and politically subjected by the Roman arms [...] and when, towards the end of the ancient world, the Balkans were involved in far-reaching ethnic perturbations, the Dardanians, of all the Central Balkan tribes, played the greatest part in the genesis of the new peoples who took the place of the old''. The same as I mentioned above and as the OP stated about Iraqis and I would add Afghans. All of these peoples considered themselves ancient and primordial groups that have settled on these lands for millennia and connect their ancestry back to some pre-BC tribes or civilizations. Their nationalism/patriotism both revolves around that they settled this land from ancient times and that no foreign power has a right to occupy them or tell them how to organize and live on their land, except for the Kosovo Albanians who use the American and international presence as a shield to protect themselves from would-be Serb pretensions on the territory. Very similar geopolitics I would argue. Both countries have a foreign military presence on their soil that as a cost of maintenance and sustainability of itself exploits the countries rich natural resources deposits with their own multinational companies or shareholders in some domestic companies to enrich the shareholders from those countries which companies that benefit from the foreign military presence and occupation, and that also in the case of America and some other NATO member countries happen to be politicians that pushed for the invasion and officers and generals that carried it out. Yes, the population of Kosovo has a smaller population than the population of Iraq of 38 million. However, both countries are majority Muslim, where 95-98% of the population of Iraq is Muslim and 94% of the population of Kosovo is Muslim. Both have small ethnic minority groups in their country, the Iraqis are majority Arab making up 75 to 80% of the country's total population while the Kurds and Turkmen make up the rest. In Kosovo, the Kosovar Albanians make up 94% of the total population while Servs make up 4%. Both countries have a fairly young population with an average age of 20-34 according to some demographics statistics.

There seems to be a greater vision forming. I've come to call this "A Philosophy of Love", which is not actually philosophy, but a destroyer of all philosophy. This is a non-physical suicide, stripping butt-naked in front of freedom, love, not-knowing, and paradox, which is in fact even more radical than physical suicide - this is an alternative for those who struggle with suicidal thoughts. Here are some guidelines I've come up with: - Make a vow in the name of God to never knowingly damage your body in any way. Invest completely and absolutely in your life. Accept everything that comes. Never run away or hide. Stand naked even when it burns. - Take full responsibility of your life. - Be always truthful about yourself to yourself and the other-self, even radically so. - There is no evil. Accept all and give thanks to everything. There is no other existence on which to compare what appears now: this is the best world of all possible worlds. All is Love. - Dare yourself to look at what you fear. Grow eyes that only see with love and unconditionality. Love every Hitler in the world. Be friends with your enemies. - "I Am" is the only thing you can know for sure. All else is a set of baseless beliefs. - Do not believe nor focus on any thought or perspective that does not feel good. One would never consciously choose to feel not good: feeling is automatically valued above all else. This is not a sin of a human being, but a reflection of true nature. - You create all meaning. - Love God and do what you want.

Leaving my house a few more times, visiting different places, socialising a bit, I realise how ignorant and limited I still am. The connotations of that isn't the way to put it, and in fact it would be an error. I have a hidden or implicit belief that I am still a child who doesn't have a valid or worthwhile perspective on things, and so that is not what I mean at all by ignorance. ^^This is the key error you've made before. My ignorance comes in how I relate to the world, what fears and beliefs have shaped me and define me. I have a problem interfacing with the world, {especially in regard to "normies"} . And I've just buried that problem and ignored it by shutting myself in. I shan't shut myself in, but neither am I to fall into my old patterns. That is the supposed or apparent double bind of mine. Perhaps the purpose of being a borderline shut in for so many months was for me to have a break, and then be presented the option to choose differently when the situation arises again. Who knows, that's all just narrative. _ _ Get clarity on this. The strangest and silliest of things bind your identity, neurotic self-consciousness and behaviour with others. Take hold of this and realise this, see it. This might seemingly go deep in life story, at least as far as the narratives and images that come up. Another thread to realise is how you struggle to interact with a world which seems so alien.... Look out for differentiable threads that get tangled and mixed up together. _ _ _ Part of me still wishes I had it in me to commit suicide. It seems the only reason I could do that is to deny or escape reality. I would leave a note saying "Sorry I did this, I just couldn't accept or acknowledge reality". I'd rather live in the world of fantasy, anime and music. But what's a niggger to do, I'm here in reality aren't I... Feeling some dimensions of emotion today. In a good way. My life is a joke, can someone just pull the plug already. My arms are crossed and I'm pouting like an angry toddler. Having the impression that I was wearing clown makeup the entire time makes me angry. Mhhhhhhhhh I'm so fucking angry. Alright I'm angry. Now what. NOW WHAT. ANYONE. SOMEONE. KILL ME [Had to hide a post because it wasn't me who wrote it and I didn't get much value from it just pasting and looking at it here. Sleepy af, thinking that rereading that post mattered, thinking that altering and edited it mattered for future reflections. I'm a massive fraud and liar. No that's not it exactly. I was trapped in fantasy land, where I wanted to pretend I have certain qualities of intelligence or sacred powers that I don't have. Or I thought that by ruminating over and (trying to, as well as, ) plagiarising brilliance/genius I would get closer to that point ]** But boy oh boy is it a narrative that the cost will be paid. Or maybe realistic cause and effect. Who knows. Does the criticism "your rhetoric detectors are too overtuned" land or resonate? Not really. Actually, maybe kinda someone could say. I'm fast to dismiss things? **Remember this point if you ever get into writing or reading properly. You can't copy and regurgitate. Even emulation should be done with caution.

This is a heavily personal journal The only reason I never ended killing myself even after multiple suicide attempts throughout my life was because my Dad never wanted me to give up hope. He told me to be strong I remember him every day.

I started my spiritual path somewhere in 2007/2008 but i wasn't really serious about it until I started studying philosophy at university in late 2010. In December of 2010, after reading Spinoza's Ethics, I had my first mystical experience. I, of course, didn't know what it was. I had an extreme emotional upheaval. An existential crisis. I didn't sleep for over 72 hours, I was dehydrated and had a fever of 105. I had a near death experience on Dec 21st, 2010. I didn't care about all of this ; just wanted to read philosophy and deepen my understandings because I felt I discovered the truth. My mother noticed a change in my behavior and i tried to explain to her all the knowledge I came upon. Pretty soon she called a doctor. A psychiatrist. The meet with him was highly disturbing for me. He diagnosed me with a psychotic attack and recommended a willful hospitalization in a psychiatric hospital in which he worked. We agreed. I was hospitalized on Dec 23rd, 2010. For the next few days I received a high dose of anti psychotic medication and in my interviews with the medical staff I went on and on about how I am an eternal being, that I discovered The True God, that all of reality is One. They took notes and said: "Yes. of course you are" 3 weeks later, my condition worsened. I was totally detached from reality, according to my doctors. I had to be moved to a closed ward. And so I did. I hardly remember much from that time, being hazy from the meds. I spent 12 days there. At a certain point i realized who was there with me: murderers, sex offenders and terrorists. All of whom declared incompetent on the basis of insanity. I literally walked through the valley of the shadow of death but I feared no evil for I knew God is with me every step of the way. "You'll get throught this, Greg. You must! The world has to know what you now know." God told me. it was my 23rd birthday. "Endure these thoughts most impure, these pitch black insights. For this is the forging of a master." Somehow I survived. My condition improved and I was returned to the open ward. I integrated my soul for another three months with careful and gentle accompaniment of a female doctor. I also met a girl. a fellow patient. She was 19 and dark skinned. She tried to commit suicide by swallowing sleeping pills with vodka. We got close, helped each other through the hard times we were in and she was my first kiss My state of consciousness returned to normal and on April 27th, 2011 I was released. I found a job 3 months later (My academy philosophy study came to an end. They wouldn't accept me back after missing 4 months). My mother and I thought it was for the best. I started a healthy research into the nature of consciousness but it wasn't a smooth ride. I wasn't hospitalized again but had a psychosis on 2 other occasions. Last year I was diagnosed with Schizoaffective Disorder. A rare condition that has elements of both Schizophrenia and Bi-Polar Disorder. I continue to take medication. But my story is not so bleak. I had awakenings, as well. Positive ones. Eight of them. Some into the nature of love, wisdom and time. After over 10 years of mental, conscious and mystical experiences I have a unique insight into some of the darkest experiences it is possible to endure as a human being and into some of the most blissful. I had it all along the spectrum This is the first time I am sharing these details to anyone other than my therapists, doctors, social workers, coaches and mentors. Thanks for reading ? It means a lot! Greg

Schrodinger's Fagg0t. Is that a dick or a dildo in my ass? I won't know untill someone tells me! That's my subjective experience! If I close my eyes, perhaps the shadow of nîgger can disappear and what can arise is the platonic ideal. I might get into journalling again, mostly on paper, just for the sake of reminding myself of tasks. Serious journalling and reflections is better done on paper, for I don't want the slightest degree of social perception and self-consciousness to taint what I write. Avocado, stretch, ACIM, tea, doesn't matter what order. Some sort of work out. I'll maybe do some my physics reading, "I'll punch that cu** Ta{beep} in the face". Woah, take a chill pill, M. Above all else, you can do this. Thy will be done on earth as it is on heaven. Okay. Edit: Honestly, I've had up to here with both myself, my family, and how I handle my family. Thoughts and feelings of vindictiveness, spite and withdrawal arise for me, but I must instead just listen to the signal of rage instead of being consumed by it. Listen to the signals. I dislike this part of me which does not want to forgive or reconcile. But I first must own it. No words no thoughts can save me or offer consolation. I'm pissed off and fed up. Something David Hawkins said. Every moment, one has to make a decisions/intention. You are never not making a decision. My decision to say nothing or do nothing is still an inner decision, compared to saying or doing X thing. _ _ _ __ _ _ Further edit: In the off chance I ever decide to end it all, know this. I didn't give rat's ass about spiritual this or spiritual that, weird belief this or weird belief that. I did it because I was tired, frustrated, and saw no reason to live I'm seriously trying to think, contemplate about this and reason it out, whether I should kill myself, but all I get from Google are helplines and empty platitudes. It doesn't help that I get a 403 error whenever I try to access that website which had people contemplating this topic honestly alongside methods. I don't know a contextualisation which makes any of this okay, no abstraction or myth or narrative could make the meaningless any better. My passions and joys are gone, and I find no ability to express myself. Two years ago, I was this close to ordering that substance. Nitrous something something, I can't remember the name. Why didn't I click order? Would it not have been better for me? At least that way my family would have a more convenient time to process my death. Now is a rather inconvenient time, and it would be a very asshole move. If I ever do go through with this, I have to leave some good notes or words at the very least, with whatever apology. I met a couple of more people in the last two years, and the ripple of my selfishness would unfortunately spread further. I'll do anything to escape this hell, that's the only conviction I can feel right now. Failing and failing, over and over again. I'm not even that energetic in this consideration of suicide inherently, but when I find myself slipping into my haze of sleepiness and dullness right now, I will myself to think and jolt awake. I refuse to just let the clock run out and have the same patterns repeat again and again. _ _ _ _ The people of my religion and others like david r hawkins said that the date of your death is pre-determined; but if I do a suicide attempt, and then if that is successful, I'd have proved them wrong. But if I fail, well then, I can only laugh, and the joke's on my ass. _ _ _ But the question still stands, how am I to reasonably contemplate and consider this decision? Google results of helplines and whatever other generic garbage, that's hardly a dialogue or consideration. I land at this point again and again, "should I kill myself?". I land at the reality and meaningless of my situation again and again. The same problems again and again. What is happiness and how is it formed for people? Loving companions and friends? Maybe a passionate life purpose? Or is it just the correct balance of neurotransmitters for a state of consciousness? Someone could want to drug me up with whatever SSRI'S, but I refuse that track. It solves nothing. You can gas me up with chemicals of bliss and euphoria and I'd still be miserable, for my depression and angst has psychological and spiritual roots. There's no rush, not right now anyway. I can always grab the rope a year later or at the end of this year. I feel better after typing this all out, and I need to give this all more time to swirl around in my consciousness and see what happens. I remember coming across a 22 year old fellow online who told me, that if he hadn't finished university, spent a year in the army and then got a job by the time he was 27, he'd kill himself. He said it so nonchalantly and casually. If he hadn't got his life together by 27 "(job, house, gf)", he'd grab the rope I found that very bizzare and couldn't understand. How could someone conditionally plan for their suicide in the far future?! That's far too abstract. If you're suicidal, you feel the emergency emotion to do it right away don't you?!! But now I understand that man a little more, and I finally understand what he meant. Very funny, and I now feel more connection to that random man then anyone in the world. But that's still too abstract and cerebral to me, for I prefer a blaze of glory and an emotional high before things end. All I'd need to do is play the right musical tracks before my send off.

Yup, as the mystics before me pointed out: "Death is 'a stripping away' of 'all' that is 'not-you'. The secret of life is 'to die before you die' and realize there is no death". I already knew that before my last DMT trip -- and not 'knew' as 'in belief', but as in: I have directly died many times already, i.e. transitioned from 'selfish states of consciousness' to states of 'Eternal Love, Empty Consciousness, God, Infinite Imagination, Absolute Goodness, Pure Being.' There is no death for 'that which you truly are' (God, Consciousness, Love, The Now, Soul, Infinity, Eternity, w/e you wanna call The Self-Less Self), since it is already simultaneously both dead and alive; or even more accurate: it is neither of them, it simple is what is: THIS: *plays a note on the piano*, and we won't give it a name. The thing is, nothing we can say with words about 'Absolute Truth' ... 'is it.' Everytime we say a sentence, we are limiting Infinity to something finite our ego can grasp onto. So even saying 'death is imaginary, you are eternal' is a limitation. Everything is. Yet everything is also IT. 'Death is imaginary' is a fantastic pointer to towards Truth, though. Life is also imaginary. My life as Thomas, your life as Leo, is also imaginary. The essence of 'every experience' is that it is part of the Infinity of Imagination. Absolutely EVERYTHING is imaginary, which means that EVERYTHING is also real. The only 'thing' -- we could say -- that is 'not imaginary' is Infinity (God, Consciousness, Love), but again: all language is limiting. What I'm saying hardly makes any sense to those who have close to no experience with ego-death. To be able to communicate pointers of truth clearly and accurately even to those who are deeply asleep is an art form: a task of immense complexity. The Essence of Reality (Infinity) is so infinitely meaningless, that whatever is then 'imagined' must - per definition - be infinitely meaningful. From the perspective of me as a human being who "needs to": breathe, eat, love, have sex, sleep, pee, shit, drink water, feel that life is meaningful... - death is *not* imaginary. (Absolutely speaking it is, but follow me here, please). I can die any time. I could have stopped breathing during my DMT trip. I can get killed by a car on the road in 30 minutes. I will die. Waveintheocean/Thomas will die eventually. That is as true as Truth can get with words. Leo will die. Not ego-death -- not some kind of 'imaginary' 5-MeO-DMT-trip-ego-death -- but as in real physical death. Yet, what I *really am* can of course not die, cos it wasn't even born to begin with, I am Infinite & Eternal, as you say, sure, I know that, that's not at all what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about real physical death. Just forget all the fancy spiritual talk, I'm talking totally down to earth: I will die. That's as certain as the Sun will rise tomorrow. I will die. You will die. This is simply a fact we can ALL agree on. You can run away from 'yourself/truth/death' all life, but you will still die. Now, what is physical death, then? It's imaginary of course. But my whole life, your whole life, *IS* already *imaginary*... Death isn't different in that way. It's Infinite Imagination. And there is infinite meaning behind your life and behind your eventual physical death. What I got a taste of during my DMT-trip was just what awaited me after my imaginary physical death. It was bliss beyond all human imaginations of what bliss is. I can try to describe it, but words fail. ... Life, as in down to earth life here on Earth, is mystical, enigmatic and ineffable...just like death. But it's also rather obvious that it is filled with so so so much suffering. One thing is the suffering in my own 'egoic limited selfish life' 'as Thomas'... - Hah, that's only one drop in the ocean of the bottomless suffering human beings 'have and are and will' endur-ed/-ing/-e....... Life is painful as fuck. We can transcend our own suffering, and thus help others transcend theirs, yet it's still filled with suffering. You and I, Leo, are lucky, lucky souls who can smoke DMT in their apartment in a relatively safe country like USA/Denmark. But let's look around on the globe shall we: it's beyond belief, it's too much, it's literally painful and mesmerizing simultaneously to see how much suffering the average man & woman endures in their lives on Earth. I went through what felt like every single possible human emotion ever felt on Earth during my DMT-trip, from heavenly highs to contentment to the most terrifying painful lows down in the deepest parts of hell. It was clear to me, that relatively speaking, the sum of all these 'emotions' was (still): pain, suffering. That's just the nature of the human ego/condition: to be in pain, to suffer. And it was just lucidly clear to me that there was a deep, deep meaning & purpose behind all of it. And while you always have an invitation (here on Earth) to wake the fuck up and actually transcend all your own suffering (transcend ego), globally speaking it's just a tiny tiny drop of suffering that's being transcended in a vast ocean of suffering. Life IS suffering. Death IS bliss. Yet I'm not saying you should strive to die, i.e. begin getting suicidal ideations. Suicide is an imaginary external solution to an imaginary inner problem. Suicide literally will just make your soul reincarnate instantly back into Earth one way or the other (it's infinite, remember), because you haven't finished the lesson yet. What is life? It's a long, long, long, thorough lesson in accepting pain, transcending suffering, saying no to ego, saying no to devilry, no to cravings, no to being asleep, and instead: yes to liberation, yes to being awake, yes to selflessness, yes to Love. That's what it is. It's basically about becoming a professional at 'breathing through all the pain of life'. When you have become pro enough, you can consciously die - Mahasamadhi - and join the rest of the pro-breathers in the afterlife. Consciously dying = Afterlife = Bliss Unconsciously dying = reincarnation = still some suffering left to transcend:-).

False. Infact many people go through a suicidal period in their lives which they eventually emerge from, and accounts from survivors of failed suicide attempts almost unanimously report experiencing a moment of intense regret the moment they realize they've actually done it. If you're Dutch, you won't be able to see this rationally, the way people in other countries see it. People defend the evils of their own cultures because they have been inculcated to do so.

Hello forum, I have been a long time lurker but decided to make an account to ask this question. I would really appreciate if @Leo Gura would have some advice on this situation. My cousin who is the same age as me in our early twenties, has been suffering from depression, self-mutilation and multiple suicide attempts over the last few years. she has taken medication and therapy which didn't work. Let me clarify that she has always been into science and rational debating stubbornness. So she is a materialist. her immediate family told me the clinic where she is currently at is giving her electro shock therapy as a 'last resort'. I inquired as to what would happen if this 'last resort' did not work. They told me that euthanasia was being discussed. This shocked me to the bone. Apparently in my country it is possible to get euthanasia even if you are as young as in your early twenties. And the cold hard way the clinic just sees it as an option they can take. I know this clinic must be highly materialistic just like all mainstream clinics. meaning they only give medication and physical therapy, and if that doesn't work they offer euthanasia, basically saying; "if our materialistic medical treatments don't work, killing yourself is your only option", Further reinforcing the story of my cousins suffering and hopelessness. At least in stage blue societies, people who suffer get recommended to turn to God to start their self-transformation. I have no Idea how I would turn my cousin to the likes of spiritual contemplation and introspection. I know for a fact her suffering and cold materialism are tied. She sees the world as a cold clockwork. The best idea is to maybe send her this video from Actualized; Either "What is Spirituality" or "Why reality is not material". Would this be a good idea? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Side question: Is the fact that my country offers euthanasia to young people, an example of toxic stage green?

I go for a lot of walks around my neighborhood. This is what I see from my experience rather than just from the news stories. The area I live in is generally very peaceful with no civil unrest. It is a suburban area which I feel safe walking around in. There is still crime in this area. My parents abused drugs, there were shots fired at stores as evidenced by the broken glass I found, there were people abusing drugs in the public bathrooms as evidenced by the fact that the bathrooms were shut down when I tried to use one and more. Harrison avenue is more peaceful than the street I am describing. My dad was a gangster. I ran into a homeless guy on multiple occasions. I can't tell if he was a fake homeless guy or not because sometimes people beg for money so they can get drugs. I ran into a few people who asked me for a lighter. There is an addiction to smoking which affects many people in this area. I have not seen anyone die because of it, but there was a man who told me that he feels like he has less energy and he is not breathing as well. Alcoholism affects my area as well. I went to alcoholics anonymous once and heard about some of the horrors people experienced because of the addiction. There was also a middle aged man who hit on my teenage sister at the park. In my schools I witnessed a lot of sexual harassment and sometimes I was the target. Many students, myself and my brother included, at some point had suicidal thoughts. I developed various coping mechanisms to help me, my brother, and others in the community deal with these emotional episodes. One of my coping mechanisms comes from enlightenment through the deconstruction of morality when we think of ourselves as bad people. Through realizing that these judgements are fundamentally false, we do not need to hold guilt against ourselves as this is unproductive. I encountered a trans woman on one of my walks and my cousin is a trans male. These trans people are fed up with the intolerance of others and argue that some trans children are encouraged to commit suicide because of it. They are dissatisfied with democrats and republicans because neither of them appreciate the complexity of the issue and they are just doing what they think is good. I can relate to trans people through autism. People often assumed ill motives because of my abnormal behavior. The suicide rates in autism are also very high (granted I googled the statistics.). In any case I never felt like I belonged in my community and some people could be driven to suicide because of the prejudice of our community. The common factor between transgenderism and autism is the negative reaction toward mental abnormalities. Abnormal does not mean bad, just different from normal. At Kroger I have a co-worker who was a victim of predatory loaning when she tried to go to college to learn about criminal justice. She lost all of her credits when the school was shut down and she was left with all of the debt. This student loan debt is unfair and I think it should be completely forgiven if a college gets shuts down for predatory loaning and you lose all of your credits. I ran into some Mormons and atheists. The Mormons asked me on multiple occasions if I would convert. I declined every time because religion is a paradigm lock which can prevent me from seeing the world from various angles. I don't want to limit myself to one way of thinking. As for the atheists, they argued that religion was superstition and none of it was based in reality. I told the atheist about what I read in the bible about Christian rituals and he thought it was insane. I also ran into a non-relgious spiritual person who thinks that we know through not knowing. This is the guy I am drawn to the most. He had an abusive girlfriend and my mom had an abusive boyfriend. Most people in this area obeyed the mask mandates. There were a few people who refused to comply when my job was to ensure that everyone wore a mask. Nobody was belligerent, they just ignored me. I also saw a lot of Trump propaganda because of the Trump train outside my Kroger store. The state of Ohio when to trump during the election although I voted for Biden. I asked some trump supporters why they liked him and they said it was because of the economy. They argued that Bernie Sanders wanted to put us in communes. My grandma is a Trump supporter who thinks Biden ruins everything. She is anti-trans because God created adam and eve. She also doesn't like gay people and she is racist. There is also a lot of construction going on constantly. The streets and sidewalks are torn up a lot and rebuilt. There are some new buildings being put in place, and electric poles being replaced. My family often argues about racism, abortion, and other issues. I do research into these topics and I discovered arguments that both sides in my family often overlook. I am interested in political discussions when they are educational, but they quickly devolve into emotional games of manipulation and lying. I suspect my mother used the n word to intentionally provoke people. I prefer listening more than speaking when there is something of value being said. My second grandma is much more conscious than my first grandma and my mom. Most of the issues are beyond my control, but there are a few things I can do like convince people not to commit suicide, fact check the fake news people fall for, educate myself on the discussions people have, and more. This is what is going on in my community from experience rather than just need and research. I probably forgot something, but it is a start.

What is considered Haram in Islam ? 29. Committing suicide (4: 29) Nor kill yourselves, for verily Allah has been to you most Merciful. If any do that in rancour and injustice soon shall we cast them into the fire, and easy it is for Allah. If you but eschew the most heinous of the things which you are forbidden to do, we shall expel out of you all the evil in you. Q My servant took his Iife by himself, thus I forbid Paradise on him. Q He who stabs himself with a dagger, shall hold it at the Day of Judgement stabbing himself for ever in Hell-fire. And he who poison himself shall sip this poison in the Hell-Fire forever. Cursing a believer is like killing him, and he who slanders a believer with shirk is his killer. and he who kills himself with something will be tortures with that thing forever at the Day of Judgement.

My suicide is inevitable, I've been thinking. Was thinking, am thinking, will thinking, whatever. Who knows what will happen. Perhaps I can keep my eyes open and be with the grief, madness and low. Aaaahhhhh. Bah Humbug. Blah. I can do this

If he likes to read, have him read this book. It is a good way (in a fictional story) to talk him out of suicide without making him feel guilty.

Holism & Holistic Thinking - Part 1 "When we try to pick out anything by itself we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe." --John Muir What is holism? "The theory that parts of a whole are in intimate interconnection, such that they cannot exist independently of the whole, or cannot be understood without reference to the whole, which is thus regarded as greater than the sum of its parts." --Oxford Dictionary Key: Irreducibility. What really matters is the relationships between the objects and not the objects themselves. Holism is the opposite of reductionism or atomism. (Treating nature as just a collection of discrete individual objects.) Reductionism is an implicit part of the materialistic paradigm. (The idea that the universe is real, material, objective, external, and doesn't depend upon the mind. Boiling everything down to something like atoms, so to understand a frog we take it out of its territory and study its blended-up parts under a microscope.) This is not how to understand reality, because so much is missed, this unholistic way of thinking leads to many dysfunctions and pathologies. If you believe you can, it's an implicit part of your epistemology and metaphysics you're sneaking in without validation or proof. Episode: Deconstructing The Myth Of Science - Part 1, 2, 3 The frog will behave differently in the lab than in its natural habitat. Scientists underestimate the entanglement problem between the scientist and what is being studied. Your understanding of what the frog is really is in your mind and not existing out there. There are different gradations of science. Lower and higher quality science. It's easier and cheaper to study a frog in a lab compared to going to its territory. School, academia, science, business, healthcare, government all have a bias towards analysis and division. Your mind can be very divisive or it can be used in a more unitive fashion, synthesizing and unifying things. This is deemphasized in our institutions. Often we're using analysis to achieve a certain survival result. This leads to a lot of narrow specialists in the world with lots of technical expertise. High technical expertise but very little wisdom. One of the features of wisdom is that it's holistic. Key lesson: Start to see how important holism is and how little it is stressed in most institutions and areas within society. Why is holism so important? Examples: Pharmaceutical companies thinking unholistically while trying to find medicines for curing one disease and not paying attention to all the possible side effects on the body and mind because the CEO says it's all about driving up the stock prices of the company and that it's not his concern but the therapists. Compartmentalizing the problem, treating it as though it's not your problem. Also, the way we market and push the drug so hard through TV ads so that people who don't even need the drug end up getting prescribed it, get addicted, depressed, and shoots up the school of the daughter of the CEO. In a sense, everything is your problem. Holistic thinking requires much more taking much more responsibility for all of your actions and all of the secondary and tertiary consequences. Disney buying Star Wars from Lukas just to make money from it and no nice overarching vision or conclusions. Why? Because they didn't have a holistic approach to this problem. The visionary brings to a project this overarching holistic sense of direction, of what they're doing, of vision. Notice how various forms of entertainment have fallen prey to this. The people who take over reducing the whole thing down by slapping some things together and hoping it will just work out. By reducing Star Wars like that you're reducing something that's greater than the sum of its parts. Chess. In a sense chess is a battle for the most holistic understanding and intuition. The most beautiful chess games are those where some great sacrifice is made to come back later for the win. People who are unholistic paint themselves into a corner easily. In chess it's called a fool's mate, you think you're going to win, but it was just a lure and you lacked the holistic understanding. Master equations that explain all of life: (34:55) Contemplate these two for years, it'll keep paying off. Holism = wholeness = health = healing = Unity = Oneness = infinity = harmony, balance = Goodness = Love = God = Selflessness = wisdom = Beauty = holy = heaven = bliss = peace = happiness Lack of holism = division = fragmentation = partiality = brokenness = lack of harmony, imbalance = limitation = finite = selfishness = ugly = evil = hell = suffering Consciousness can have various levels of holism to it. From infinitely unholistic, fragmented, and divided to infinitely unified and everything in between. And depending on where you are on this scale is going to be the quality of your life and how beautiful and holy life seems to you as an individual. Collectively, as a species, the more unified we are, the more holistic we are the more beautiful our societies will be. The more beautiful our cities will be, the less war we'll have, the more peace we'll have. Peace through unification. "Unification needs to happen at all holons, higher and higher, until we reach an infinite unity. This is what human history has been about for the last 10.000 years." First as tribes, then as city-states, then as nations, now we're starting to unify as the globe, which is meeting a lot of resistance. "The reality is that anything short of infinite unity is going to lead to suffering, ugliness, and limitation. The whole point of spiritual work is to let go of all your partialities, all of your divisions, which means becoming more selfless, the most difficult thing to do, and when you become completely selfless then you realize that you're God. (Infinitely selfless consciousness) And the reason you don't realize you're God right now is because you're in a divided, highly fragmented, highly partial sense of consciousness. You think you're a little human, that's separate from the universe, humans, animals, planets, and solar systems. ...This is how to heal the world and how to heal yourself." Your ego is not fully unified, it's fragmented. One day you're all gung ho about meditating, self-actualizing, eating healthy, and going to the gym. The next day you're lazy, you don't go to the gym, and eat a bucket of ice cream, and don't want to self-actualize. (Ego-backlash) "Harmonize the situation instead of shaming and guilting yourself, further fragmenting." How do you fix this? With love. Love is that which can understand, and recognize and accept, integrate through acceptance, through a higher understanding. How To Forgive Anyone Who Hurt You (56:20) The essence of shadow work: "Recognizing parts of reality that you've disowned by expanding your consciousness, a more holistic understanding of that situation, and then incorporating it, integrating it, loving it, accepting it, unifying it until there's no shadow." God is that which has no shadow because it's infinitely conscious of itself. No more warring with yourself and warring with others. You recognize it's the same thing. The higher your consciousness goes, the more unity you experience, the more blissful your life will be, the more loving you will be with others in your life and with yourself, the more you will accept yourself the happier you will be. And if you take this far enough your consciousness becomes infinitely unified you will experience heaven, paradise. What is hell? The absence of love. "Unholistic thinking creates duality and division, that's the problem." Examples: "Facts don't care about your feelings." -Ben Shapiro Your facts are very much influenced by your feelings. It's like severing your head from your heart. A lot of who you are is in your body, not just in your head. A lot of emotions and trauma are carried in the body. It's usually your emotions and wounds that drive you deeply subconsciously. And then you don't take care of those issues in your body, it creates pathology. It's part of the materialistic paradigm and our education system. Techniques: Yogic practices, Shamanic Breathing, Bioenergetics. Popular duality in politics is "the globalist elite vs the ordinary little people". There's not that much difference psychologically between elites and regular folk. Most elites are more educated, have more consciousness, and are more developed and loving people than regular folk. There are definitely deep corruptions within the elites themselves. But no matter how much corruption you see in the elites, the corruption in the lower classes is way worse than in the elites. That's the key mistake that many Trumpists, and supporters of Trump and right-wing populism make. This is analogous to the problem that happened with Hitler. His whole spiel was that we wanted to take over Germany from the globalist elites on behalf of the regular folk, that was his whole appeal. Trump is better than Hitler, but there are deep analogies. And there's a lot of foolishness to go around on both sides the right-wing and the left-wing. Criminals vs the good guys, the upstanding. Demonizing and hating criminals and not treating them humanely creates a shadow. This increases recidivism rates and makes them become more criminal, especially in the US- In Scandinavian Nordic countries they get much better results. Much more humane prison systems. Rehabilitation rather than punishment. To want to rehabilitate them you have to see the criminal as not separate from you. If we're holistic and even-minded in the way we see things most of us are criminals in one way or another. The criminal elements of society are literally just parts of your own psyche as God. Duality between science and spirituality. In our universities, anything spiritual is seen as anti-scientific and it's really not allowed within them. Treated as a joke, unscientific, lack of rigor, lack of truthfulness. And conversely, in many spiritual circles rationality, thinking, and testing own theories is ignored. Both camps suffer for that. For science to fully flourish and to really understand reality at the deepest level it needs spiritual insight, from meditation, yoga, etc. It needs to consider deep metaphysical issues which are at the heart of science, which spirituality can shed a powerful light on. The mind-body problem can be resolved through spirituality but cannot be resolved through materialistic science. And spirituality needs a lot more science behind it. Through rigorous research into psychedelics, yoga, and meditation techniques. "Unholistic thinking creates conflict, fights, violence, war, racism, genocide, slavery, exploitation and even civilizational collapse can occur from this. Whereas holism interconnects everything and tells you what is important and what is meaningful in life." "One of the consequences of this materialistic, reductionistic attitude or paradigm that has been adopted by our culture in the West over the last hundred years especially, through the 20th century and still through today, is that it has tried to demystify nature too much. And in so doing it has stripped life of its meaning or its spirit." This makes you lose sight of the highest most important thing which is holism, unity, and love. Your spiritual connection to life, not just through your head, but also through your body, and through your emotional system, intuition, and your feminine side. We've had this schism between the masculine and the feminine. You're not a whole person this way." The essence of wisdom is that keen discernment and prioritizing the higher over the lower. The foolishness of our current society is that we've actually prioritized the lower over the higher. Technology, materialism, money, and pleasure and hedonism and raw data, and facts, and information above everything else. Example: You'll get dismissed going into a university saying that love is the most important thing to study. To do good science you actually have to be able to feel into reality with great sensitivity and mindfulness. The solution is not to go back to religion but to find the next level of synthesis and holism which start to integrate the best from religion and the best from science, a higher synthesis of those two. Without holism your life becomes petty, mechanical, utilitarian, demystified, and dysfunctional, you lose your connection to life, hence the epidemics of depression, suicide, and opioid addiction. When you rob people of their spiritual connection they just become zombies and robots and then they kill themselves if they're not able to get the sort of success they see people getting on TV. You literally feel disconnected and alienated from people, society, nature, animals, Spirit, Goodness, the Self, Love, and God. What you want most of all is you want to feel infinitely connected to everything. That's Love. "Everything we seek in any domain of life is wholeness and unity." In religion, we'll have to do the counterintuitive of being selfless and surrendering our attachments and beliefs in for example Christ as being the one true savior or Mohammed being the last prophet. To then create the true religion that loves all the other religions. That would heal the world at the plain of religion. In business, every business seeks to be a monopoly. To achieve a healthier unity within business we'd have to recognize that it's healthy for us to have business competition, and to have different sectors controlled by different companies and that we shouldn't be buying up and using various kinds of anti-trust method to collude and then to squeeze our competitors out of the marketplace. We want a healthy economy which has many different companies of different sizes, that creates more innovation, that will actually help to create a better economy for more people, better wages, more inventions and it'll benefit everybody this way. To do that you'd have to think more holistically. Every family seeks wholeness and unity which requires more holism. Science is trying to achieve unity and wholeness. Science wants to understand everything, a theory of everything, but it thinks that it can do that through the methods of science without realizing that it can't because science is not everything. It's self-defeating. Similarly, in Mathematics, mathematicians want to try to understand reality only as numbers. Without realizing that they're just projecting numbers onto reality. You can understand a lot about nature through math, it's been very effective, but it only gets you so far. Science deeply suffers from this, because current science and academia don't consider a thing true unless it can be quantified and put into an equation which is called formalization. This is extremely unholistic, reductionistic, myopic, and leaves out the most important aspects of reality. For example, you can't quantify Love and Infinity, which is what reality is. You can only quantify the finite not the infinite. Infinity is not a math thing, it's all of reality, of which math is just one subset. In Geopolitics people seek wholeness and unity. Less healthy way: Seeking unity by dominating other countries or by exterminating other countries and races and people. Healthy Geopolitics: Unity through peace, alliances, and mutual agreements. By respecting each other's boundaries and differences and we don't try to dominate everybody else, trying to create a global empire, and trying to put our own country above all the other countries. This is part of the pathology of the Trump policy of America first. It ends up boomeranging and creating the opposite effect. Americans are only one-tenth of the whole planet. The other nine-tenths will just organize themselves into a more selfless alliance that will ultimately be stronger than America which will then wither away. That's what America first would get you effectively if it would have continued for 50 more years. This is the short-sightedness of selfishness. Unity is sought in relationships. As well as in health. Language seeks unity. There's a unification force within currency as well. This is evolution and life. Unity and division in an infinite fractal all the way up and down the different levels of the holoarchy. Episodes: Division vs Unity & Understanding Duality 1, 2 & especially 3 Reductionism is easily exploited by devils. It's very easy to be selfish by deliberately limiting the scope of your holistic understanding to something very small and narrow. A classic strategy. Using our minds to carve up reality into tiny parts makes it easy for nobody to take responsibility for all the parts. This leads to pathologies in science creating a fractured view of nature. Spirituality expands that little circle of concern until it becomes infinite and then everything is your problem and responsibility. Many people vote on a single issue that they're been fearmongered about. (abortion, guns, etc) To have a well-functioning democracy we need citizens that are so holistic that they care about the well-being and health of the entire country and even the entire world. Immune against manipulation by devils on single narrow issues. A single issue is not as important as all the issues. This requires more empathy, an expanding circle of concern as well as becoming more selfless. The devil, any deeply selfish organism, creates a very narrow circle of concern within infinite consciousness and then defends that to death. Most humans create these gross externalities without being conscious of, taking responsibility for, the collateral damage they cause creating a toxic commons for everybody to swim in. Leadership is nothing other than selflessness, it's one of the most important factors. Bad leadership is extreme selfishness and narcissism a la Hitler or Trump. Self-bias privileges one part of the universe at the expense of another. Episode: Self-bias "Recognize that your mind carves up reality not arbitrarily and not in accordance with the truth but in whichever way serves your ego best. This is the antithesis of holism. The reason most people aren't holistic is simply because they're too selfish." Understanding recontextualization Another problem with lack of holism is that narrow expertise is vulnerable to recontextualization. A set of facts without its context doesn't mean very much and when you have an unholistic perspective on the universe whatever facts you have are always vulnerable to a radical recontextualization. Science grossly underestimates this problem. A robust and solid science needs to be immune to radical recontextualization. And then the only way to be immune is by expanding your context until it's infinite. This means your field has to be the entirety of the universe as a whole. The more big picture you have the less detail you have and the more detail you have the less big picture understanding. Like zooming in or out of the Earth. Holism is zooming out. The power of the ultimate holism is that you zoom out so far that you grasp the whole thing even though you don't understand all the details. In a sense that's omniscience. There are two ways to use your thoughts: to divide reality or unity reality. We in our education and culture are biased towards divisive type of thinking. Which kind of thought do you use most of the time? Which type of thinking leads to more peace and which leads to more conflict and war? Which one do you want? All thought is fundamentally dualistic and incomplete, even unitive thinking. You can't use the part to grasp the whole and yet still there are degrees of quality to thought, not all thought is equally good. Incrementally increase the quality of your thinking, making it more holistic, integrative, and unitive, without surrendering your ability to do analysis. And then eventually your holism gets so high that you recognize that even thought itself is too limited and too unholistic to transcend thought itself. The highest holism doesn't occur within thought it occurs within consciousness. The highest holism is infinite consciousness which is beyond thinking. But thinking is still important! The more holistic your understanding the better you can manipulate systems towards health and the highest good without them boomeranging on you. We can't create a healthy society without thinking and holistic understanding of the systems we're dealing with. Holistic thinking can foresee the counter-intuitive twists and turns that reality takes. Libertarians don't understand that their cry for absolute freedom boomerangs on itself. Freedom, as humans desire it, has to be delicately balanced and harmonized with restrictions and regulations to ensure that your freedom doesn't turn into enslavement. Complex problems require holistic solutions. Holism generates more robust solutions than otherwise. Why is the highest intelligence holistic? Intelligence can be thought of as holistic pattern recognition leading to insight. It's intuition, the ability to interconnect dots and to see the whole picture of a situation. Inherent features of the highest intelligence: Ability to deeply see the context. Ability to go meta and to transcend. Ability to self-reflect. Ability to take on multiple perspectives and higher perspectives. Ability to be unbiased and selfless. Equal concern for all levels of the holarchy. As you contemplate for yourself what intelligence is and as you're experiencing higher levels of intelligence contemplate: "Why are these things the case & why are they important to the highest intelligence"? Psychedelics are awesome because they change the neurotransmitters, upgrade them, to ones that offer more interconnections. Interconnecting together more of your mind. To the point where ultimately the interconnections become infinitely dense. Every corner of the universe interconnects with itself infinitely such that this circle becomes a completely solid, glowing, white orb of pure interconnectedness. = God = Love = Intelligence = Beauty = Infinity = Eternity = the Self, your true highest Self. At this level of interconnectedness and holism the boundaries and physical divisions of everything in the universe collapse. All is equally you without any bias or partiality or favoritism. That's the godhead, infinite consciousness, complete awakening to yourself as God. And this complete interconnectedness goes on forever, it's an infinite well of Love that you keep falling deeper and deeper into and it becomes more and more interconnected forever. Why is holism so rare? Costs to holism: You can't break holism down into bite-sized chunks very easily, it requires putting a lot of pieces together and holding them in your mind at once. Actualized episodes are long because they're trying to bring them all together. This is mentally overwhelming. As a devil, you make life easier by not taking responsibility. It requires selflessness. As a selfish needy person, it's hard to be concerned about anything very far beyond yourself. Holism requires a transcendence of one's survival, one's biases. Because at the highest holism you are completely unbiased, consciousness is completely unbiased. No difference between you getting raped, tortured, or getting a birthday cake. Understandably very threatening to the ego. Holism requires surrendering yourself until ultimately you surrender yourself so deeply that there's nothing left to surrender. That would be going all the way. But even increasing your holism still requires surrendering something. This would be the selfless life, surrendering everything else important in your life, the money, sex, drugs, business, career, house, and children. The only thing that matters to you being to be completely unbiased in how you see yourself. That would be true selflessness and it would lead to the ultimate Love. The reason you can't love everybody and everything is that you're so partial, always judging everything good or bad because your self needs to survive as that little thing that it is. "And as you surrender more of yourself, the distortions that obscure your vision of yourself and reality, fall away, the fog clears, the clouds clear, and what you see is you approach closer and closer to Truth. And at that moment when you completely surrender every single bias you have and every single personal preference for good and evil, and you completely surrender yourself, at that moment you die, and you become the truth. And Truth is complete selflessness, Love, God. That's God-realization. The cost is all of your selfishness." You don't select to be selfless because it's going to do something good for you, you select to be selfless because you want to be selfless and that is its own reward. That is the highest wisdom, to see that. It's the most counter-intuitive thing about the universe, the decision to become selfless. Because everything in your body and mind is screaming for you to become more selfish.

https://apnews.com/article/john-mcafee-dead-spain-prison-extradition-c39cc0f375a975946fb83b60cc2bf3d3 He allegedly committed suicide in a Spanish prison after recently being sentenced to be extradited to the U.S. He was potentially facing the rest of his life in prison. Weirdly, I've stumbled upon some supposed John McAfee fans/conspiracy nuts denying that it was suicide and trying to paint him as a martyr. Their proof: McAfee's own paranoid tweets warning that U.S. officials are out to "whack" him and that he would never kill himself. Guess he was also taking lessons from the Trump guidebook to getting people to buy your lunacy.

You know how people interpret this "raise your consciousness"-jargon ??? They think "Oh so I have to become smarter, read more, study more, meditate more, become a better meditator, become a better psychedelic explorer, take more psychedelics, go to more retreats etc." ... you think they ever awaken by doing this? Some do perhaps, out of sheer luck, or out of a deep desire for truth, or most likely because of deep suffering (which makes luck favor you, or/and which makes your desire for truth higher). But 95%+ of your followers will never wake up watching your videos, taking psychedelics, desperately trying 'to raise their consciousness'. The mind has to be dropped. That's all that has to happen. But it takes Love, not 'raising your consciousness'. You are your own trap Leo. Bless ya. "... And this is one of the mysteries, that the mind can speak, and knows nothing; and the heart knows everything, and cannot speak. Perhaps to know too much makes it difficult to speak; the mind knows so little, it is possible for it to speak." - Osho How much have you suffered, Leo? In the your whole life. How close have you been to suicide, like Eckart Tolle, for instance. Without enough painful suffering, their is no real carrot for God to fully wake up from sleep/His slumber. << Selfishness/ignorance/being-asleep/devilry/drinking "Life's bottle of wine" (taking pyschedelics often for instance) // "trying to be good" // "trying to always raise one's consciousness" >> is very fun and exciting, and almost nobody (no of God's dream-characters) seem to want to fully let go of it (let go of ego) in order to wake (fully) up. Self-deception 101, say you're doing things out of charity and love, when really, you're acting from a place of ignorance, sleep and selfishness. Maybe the video "Why God forgives all Evil" was a video you made to yourself to justify being asleep a little longer? :-D “If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen." - Alan Watts The biggest most mind-bending and wild and crazy trip (for me right now) is Life itself. Smoking DMT has (almost, not quite) become boring.

You are speaking from the absolute perspective now, which often isn't very helpful for the person (soul hidden behind ego) who wants to awaken:D No, actually, oh enlightened 1, you are conflating the absolute with the relative now. From the abolute perspective, 'Reality' (Oneness, God, Consciousness, Love, Absolute Infinity) is neutral. 100% neutral. It is neither beautiful, perfect or terrifying. It is Love. It is Infinite. Which is neutral. 10000000% neutral.;-) God is all things, but also no things. This cannot be understood with mind. Mind has to be dropped to 'get it'. Because in actuality, it isn't something to 'get'... It's just beliefs/survival-programming/'mind' (ego) that has to be dropped. Totally dropped. Transcended. Let go. Accept. Surrender. If you don't have deep desire for truth, you won't get it. Ever, never. Simple as that. Anyway, where were we? Oh yes, your conflation.:D Well, from the absolute perspective, yes, God is everything (and nothing). Indeed. But totally, simply, absolutely (even relatively) and down to earth: Reality is Reality is God is God is Consciousness is Consciousness is Love is Love. PERIOD. AND IT IS NEUTRAL. IT IS EVERYTHING & NOTHING. PERIOD. ( ;D;D;D<3 I FUCKING WIN <3 ) But it is ego to say "Oh, how terrible, I realized I'm completly alone as God" . ... Just purely down to earth, relatively speaking, this is the ego speaking. It's the soul (God) speaking through a yet-not-transcended-ego. When the ego is fully transcended, there is no need to write silly things on a internet forum about how terrible or lonely it is. Because it isn't lonely. It isn't terrible. It's everything & nothing. So everytime you say it's "x or y" or say it's not "z or c" you are speaking from ego. That's why the most enlightned ones don't speak of it. It's pointless to speak of. Either they: - commit mahasamadhi (conscious suicide, which is "easy" when you are fully conscious; you just stop breathing, no biggie), - or they sit meditating all life, away from society - or they go and participate FULLY in life without talking about spiritual ego-concepts such as 'God', 'Love' or 'Consciousness' (they could speak about these things, but then they do it in a practical way to help people to awaken, not in the way Leo (& others on this forum, including me) are doing it with some of this silly totally-stuck-in-concepts-self-masturbation videos/talk ((("Why God forgives all Evil" -- roflmao what a waste of 2 hours to watch this crap ... ;D btw im half joking, chillax mods, don't ban me:D))). When you are fully conscious, there is zero difference between Hitler and Jesus. Zero. It's all just God/Consciousness/Love. Zero. Zero. Zero. Oneness. That is what it is. To say "Hitler and Jesus are One, Identical, Zero Difference" is a good funny line to drop to people to see how they react. If they smile back at you or just blink with the eyes, you know their ego is probably very transcended. If they agree with you but start saying meaningless words to put more concepts onto it to justify it, well their ego is somewhat transcended, but still very present. If they disagree with you, they are pretty much asleep. If they, like my mom, start calling 911 to get you hospitalized, they are very much asleep. If they start discussing why either Hitler or Jesus were superior, they are totally asleep. Btw, sure, relatively speaking, I'd much rather be Jesus than Hitler. And sure, relatively speaking, Jesus were much more awake than Hitler. But, absolutely speaking, they are One and The Same Thing: God. Consciousness. Love. Oh, I'm jerking off now as I'm writing this. Self-deception, spiritual ego, 101, telling others that you know you have a spiritual ego, to in that way raise your spiritual ego even higher. (One-upmanship. You can never not play - ... or can you?) It's probably best, ego-transcendence-wise, to just leave this forum for good and go either commit mahamasadhi, meditate 24/7 or ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN LIFE! :DD So many people on this forum, including Leo x 1000000, me x100, Someone herex99999999999 are so stuck in the Enneagram type-5-trap of "Replacing Direct Exp with Concepts" . The most obvious way they are this is when they deny it. "Oh I'm not, I'm very much aware of the distinction between direct exp and concepts and I am living life" ... then 1 week later shoots a 3 hour video explaining in great detail "Why God Forgives all Evil." You're a very, very funny man @Leo Gura. I love you, you've given me so much through your videos. It's inspiring, but you're also a trap. Your own trap. True. But after that it becomes neutral. It's only radical and tears-incuding, scream-inducing, flooring, when there is still ego left. When the ego is fully transcended, it becomes ordinary (yet still magical of course, but you don't have to cry, or scream or talk about it anymore). Love ya all <3

It is sufficient to say there was absolutely no place for anything Muslim or Islamic in my family at any point in time throughout my life. And my mom would not discuss anything Muslim. To the point that she said that Muslims were never allowed in my maternal Grandmother's home in my mom's native village. And a girl who fell in love and married a Muslim man, she was boycotted by my grandmother's village. I was born and raised in a city so the taboo in a city is not so much. There is more tolerance for Muslims in city areas Marrying a Muslim was considered equal to suicide in my grandmother's village.

Sorry I only have very little direct experience with BPD, and I have heard very little about it. Sorry if my reflection is likely off-base. This is simply a reflection. 6 years is a long time that you overlooked the ‘negative signs’ in the relationship—presumably in excellent faith—and sounds like you said something about ‘the rest of your life.’ That’s a big deal. Now you are questioning your trust—I notice you did not say that you doubt your Partner or the substantial disorder of her thought, perception, memory, or mood that grossly impairs her capacity, judgment, behaviour, or ability meet the ordinary demands of life. You don’t distrust the disease (which has been well-treated in some very severe instances—maybe taking 2 years of non-stop in a psych ward for paranoid delusions to really pass?): you don’t trust yourself. I’m sorry to hear about the suicide attempt. I can’t imagine how that exp might have threatened your own life-of-love (the woman who fills your life), disturbed you, or generated doubts about your goodness for her. Never mind the effect that leaving her might have on her; You are not asking, “will it hurt her if I leave her? Will she kill herself as a result of me abandoning her, especially at in this vulnerable moment of sickness?” You are asking if your being-with-her is good for her or for you. That you might not be good enough—to be loyal through the difficulties AND the easy times? Wait—you see a very reasonable path out of any aspects of the relationship you profoundly didn’t want, and toward things you always needed and wanted—and the good people around here are, saying, ‘Leave her if she’s having paranoid delusions,’ or ‘leave her if X Y or Z.’ Consider the wisdom in what they’re saying. They are going out on a serious limb and telling you to cut…her…off…from your goodness. She’s draining you, isn’t she? Surely, when she said, “I love you,” you did not think she meant, “…and I would kill the person you love most.” Just listen to what the other people are saying! They are eloquently elucidating a reasonable escape—not only can you tell yourself that the escape makes sense, because there is a rational continuity of your inner sense-making, needs, and authentic desires—but you have a pretty darn good crack at convincing other people that the separation makes sense—if not categorically, at least by virtue of the fact that you will have moved on from her years from now, and living a great life. But if you do not leave— “a never-ending rabbit hole of codependency, pain, and falsehood.” ‘I should have, would have, could have left her years ago!’ But you hardly have to mention it—you do love her, and you absolutely do not want to break up: So you doubt…your love. Pause—you left something out. You left out how you ‘shouldn’t have, couldn’t have, would not have broken up with her,’ right? You did not mention the sincerity of your love for her in the past—and the perhaps twisted and immature logic of a love more simple and pure. You felt a love that despises, “Would not, could not, should not!” So what, if she was messed up? She was freaking hot and beautiful and amazing—Why not throw away your heart with reckless abandon? Love is simple, right? Love is pure. ‘Love believes all things, hopes all things. Love never ends.’ You don’t trust your love because—you failed to mention—you already trusted love once—and see where it brought you? Love brought you here, my friend—to the precipice of the death of love (and perhaps to a journey beyond the death—that God loves no matter what). Let me tell you some brutal “advice” I heard that St John of the Cross, in the Dark night of the Soul, allegedly provided in some context or other. ’Discern the spirits. Do not make a decision in a state of desolation, but decide in peace—you made a decision in clarity, peace and joy. So Don’t change your life course in desolation.’ Yeah—I’m not saying it is good advice. I’m just citing it. So, let’s try applying this alleged advice: you made a choice to give your heart to your GF in a moment of simple and genuine love—come what may. And, in the depth of your choice of life-with-her, you overlooked a thousand red flags. Things became more and more desolate until…bleak suicide. Now do you abandon your pure love? Look my friend. I’m an N of one. If you want to know what I did—I kept going with the difficult situation beyond the point of no return, as things became more and more depressing. I hate to say it but I…got something out of continuing to live. And when I finally betrayed my path—I faced unexpectedly-real social exclusion, depression, and a loss of faith. I became what I secretly condemned in my heart. I did not condemn others—I condemned myself. I got a 7 to 14 year-sentence of moral distress. Sorry, my dear beloved St John of the Cross. I finally made a decision in bleak depression beyond years of tears. Maybe my analysis was wrong. Maybe I heard the advice wrong. Maybe the feelings of unease were supposed to be a new sign? Or, maybe I really failed in my highest calling in this existence. Now I will lick my wounds and get up—just some guy who used to love, or maybe I’m some guy who is more amazing and weird than I ever could have been. Maybe it is our destiny to delight in guilt. No one is going to slap you across the face and say, “DAMNIT MAN! Pull yourself together. You made a commitment.” Wait—actually there are some people who will say that—and you can come up with some bullshit analogy like promising to love an abusive and toxic person. But maybe you should ask those voices where they were when you were struggling with these red flags in the past—and where were they when you were looking for a non-borderline friend? Go back to your sincere love and choice to embrace your GF. Look deeper. You have already made your choices to stay with her. Now you must choose again. What about the excessively wise who died before their time? Plato loved democracy too much—he trusted the majority who said he should drink hemlock—so Plato drank it.