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Inliytened1 replied to johnlocke18's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Awakened as fuck. -
wildflower replied to johnlocke18's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No, continually telling other people to awaken to the fact their God, and that they're afraid of absolute Truth is completely insane, because it insinuates and you both have awakened to it.. but you obviously havent. So before you start preaching and advising others, why not take your own advice? -
wildflower replied to johnlocke18's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why do you not awaken yourself before continually preaching and scolding everyone else? Have you considered that option? Literally if you awakened, we all do..... you're acting insane -
Goldzilla replied to johnlocke18's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude! Do you even grasp how it feels to be in public? And teach, and people relying on you at a vibrational level? It can turn you nuts even if you are awakened. This bs of i'm untouchable because i'm God is soon a slap in the face per example, if the media has the eyes on you, or an entire country. So, dear humans, there are things out there, and situations in life, that only those who have been there know what the hell i'm talking about now. I'm not defending Leo, i don't agree with many things he says, but one thing we have in common, wich is being in the focus of many people. Being the focus of the masses, only by that principle i should get paid, hahahaha. -
AdeptusPsychonautica replied to The Blind Sage's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi @Leo Gura It certainly IS amusing, because all the exact things you said in your "I'm leaving" video you now describe as signs of delusion - or is this one of those situations where it only applies to anyone who isn't you? I guess if YOU say that YOU are the most awakened person on the planet who has mystical healing powers then that's OK, but if someone ELSE said it then it would be delusional - am I understanding this correctly? One thing I will say is that if I misread this whole thing as your attempt to correct for last years absurd bullshit, when in actuality you are sticking to your guns, then I can only apologise, and don't worry I will soon correct the record and let my audience know that you are still in fact completely delusion. Again I would ask you to confirm exactly when you will begin to cure all human diseases, and instantaneously solve every problem for humanity. If you could do it by the end of this week that would be awesome. I thought I had made it fairly clear that I don't study your "body of work" because I don't think it is anything beyond a YouTube channel by an inexperienced and sometimes delusional young man. You are not some wizened sage who is worth seriously studying mate, and so I choose to invest my energies into material of a higher caliber. For all the points below I am happy to go and get the actual quotes if you deem it necessary - but do I really need to do this? its all in the first video straight from the horses mouth. I think this is a big part of your problem - I don't think you even know half the shit you have said. That is why your content is so contradictory, but anyway here is some rough counterpoints for you to chew on. No you haven't been promoting psychedelic safety since day one - don't be absurd. Day one of what? Your channel? Was it before or after you told everyone to take 5 MEO DMT or they were wasting decades of their life? Where is this public record you speak of? This wasn't a big criticism anyway so I'm not sure why you are banging on about it. Yes you did claim to be the messiah. You know when you say you are greater than Jesus, greater than Buddha, the most enlightened awakened person who ever existed on the history of this planet. The guy who was chosen by the universe to spread its highest teachings and gifted with the power to heal mankind - those are messianic claims you chump! In regard to the cult leader thing - are you simple? I have said about 10 times now that I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A CULT LEADER. You do understand that a "cult of personality" is not the same thing as you leading a cult? Surely I don't have to explain the difference to someone as learned as you? So please... tell me again whose vision is clouded If you didn't want to correspond with me then just say so you big soft shit. You were the one who started it with the laughable bravado of "IF YOU DARE", so at least have the balls to say "I changed my mind". You are like the guy who challenges someone to a pistol duel but then comically runs off in the opposite direction when they say yes - its really lame, bordering on cowardice to be honest, and not what one would expect from a god-like being such as yourself. As for my unhealthy fixation with you - what can I say, there is A LOT of material here with you and your followers that just writes itself, and I think the bizarre mindset of this group is worth commenting on. Surely you would agree because you yourself have commented on other such groups, even in your recent video addressing the Jordan Peterson phenomenon - or is this another one of those situations where you are exempt... because Leo? I Think of it kinda like when SNL pokes fun at the ridiculousness of Donald Trump and his zealots, it works precisely because its true - and I'm sure it stings him for the same reason. The pretentious tend and egotistical tend to be burned most by ridicule. Finally mate, you don't have the last word on what spirituality is, nor god, nor anything - you are just a dude. Take care buddy -
Ok, so, I've been on the fence about experimenting with psychedelics for years now. I've had a serious daily meditation and contemplation practice for over 6 years now. Gone on various retreats. And all that led me to a handful of awakening experiences. Still working on taking it deeper, and embodiment. My logic has always been; if I've been doing this without psychedelics, then what's the point? But I've been revisiting some of Leo's videos on psycheldelics, and doing more research and starting to seriously consider diving into it. Hoping it can speed up the process that is already in motion. Through some research I've read, and listened to psychedelic nerds talk about deep awakened states and it seems like they fail to recognize the significance of their experiences. So I have two main questions. Do you really think psychedelics are necessary? How could you distinguish a psychedelic hallucination from a deep realization of absolute truth? And I know I really just have to see for myself. Which is why I think I'm going to try LSD soon for the first time. But just want to hear what people think.
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OH!!!! Oh. Oh. So you're saying... everyone within them has the same potential to... You are programed to awaken. You are beyond the programming and the awakening and the person. How else could it be? Do you want to live amongst already awakened people or to awaken them? Both. How else could it be? I Am the master of having my cake and eating it too. I can have my cake and eat it too. I want to drop the angst. What do I want instead? This is no instead. Just stead. Stay with the current. The current of the river is exactly now, currently.
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Depends also on the state of others, the personal circle, where you live, etc. Usually a depressive feeling is not from within, usually someone is suffering in the background. Still believe awakened people are immune to the garbage of other people? Think again. If a rotten apple is near you, it will still stink even if you transcended. Do you think staying near the stinky apple will help you? Not very much. If you grow in transcendence, the rotten apple will stink even more. One reason, intelligent people don't live with the mob. Same reason hermits go and live in a mountain. This is reality, the mass communities stink, this is how it is.
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I think it’s a matter of these people just not being very familiar with him. Bentinho is highly awakened and authentic it seems. Very high level techniques. Like a young Rupert Spira that actually lets his personality show and is concerned less with nonduality and more with manifesting your true nature through intuition and emotional guidance. Rather reminds me of Nahm / Phil / Actuality of Being Apparently Bentinho was instrumental in Frank Yang’s path.
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Goldzilla replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This Spirituality thing is not for everyone. Not everyone is willing to destroy their current situation for something new, only a few. The process could be atrocious, and can also be blissful. It depends greatly on one's situation. Is way easier if one has the finances rezolved. But from another perspective, one cannot transcend without the slap of reality. So, this awakening thing, needs a trigger, or will never come only with being peaceful. It will take various decades, and even then, an awakened human being that has transcended his own trauma or has been in very dangerous situations for their live, they will probably awaken faster and better than a cave meditator, just saying. The greatest people in this world have been through hell, being the reason, they are there and continuing what they do. -
My vision this morning became scattered as I tried to share it. Here is my partial expression of it anyway for whatever it’s worth. Concepts to ponder while listening to the above from Bruce Lipton In A Course In Miracles it states - This is a course in mind training (ACIM, T-1.VII.4:1) In the Fourth Way it is taught that Conscience is buried in the subconscious. Bruce Lipton quoting Einstein- “The field is the sole governing agency of the particle.” A.H. Almaas - Defines the soul as a field of impressionability. Awakened Conscience allows objective consciousness. Seeing the truth can be painful and cause the ego to die. Three steps and three components physical - emotional - intellectual Awaken, then die. Be born again. The impermanence romantic love is because the intellectual-emotional complex is not grounded in the body. It is two centered awareness. The law of Three states balancing the three centers results in a fourth manifestation. This is how we get Teflon coated and become creators as well. This is Three centered awareness. Balancing the three centers bestows the capacity for creating and perceiving existence through Love. Marianne Williamson quoting ACIM - “Forgiveness is Remembrance.” If you’ve warmed up to my chaotic notes above you may enjoy the YouTube I pasted below.
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Goldzilla replied to Daniel347's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Visuals are a fucked up state when taking drugs, don't guide yourself on that. Awakening is similar when your a child and you feel the world as it is. Now, for advanced people who have awakened, yeah, there are things out of this world, like more shades and shades of color in the visual spectrum, seeing the masks of people, hearing better, etc. But a trippy dream experience is usually for those still asleep i'm afraid. -
Leo Gura replied to lardplanet's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Ego, ego, ego. Evil does not exist. If you actually followed an awakened teacher you would realize that. -
I tend to sleep between 6-8 hours these days, which feels about right. I know since my initial awakening back in 2012 there have been times when my sleep pattern's been all over the place, particularly after I awakened my kundalini in 2013, and also when I was experiencing chronic anxiety in 2017. So frustrating to be waking up after only 2-3 hours' sleep and not being able to get back to sleep again, I learnt after a while not to fight it (talk about an exercise in futility) and to just get up. That's an interesting point, and not something I'd ever considered before - it does seem to make sense. I always remember Adyshanti saying that the egoic state of consciousness chews up a lot of energy, and of course the more energy you're using up, the more you'll need to sleep.
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Don't you think using the word such as God is problematic? when you communicate with people! as long as you are a social animal, you live with people. when you say I am God or you are God words create communication problems. instead we can say I am enlightened, I am awakened, I am the image of God, I am servant of God, etc. what is the purpose of using the word god if it did not refer anything? if evey bit of thing in the universe is God, what is the point of saying, it is God? if ant is God, Mario, human, animals, plant, microbes, everthing in the universe is God, what is the word god refer? nothing. it become useless word in human dictionary. I don't appreciate people use the word God. what if we swap the whole dictionary words in to different words? how are we gonna communicate? words and language here in actualized.org are used in Gentiles ways. it makes them unSpritual and unscientific. actualized.org has created its own culture here. one of the essense of spirituality is not to be attached and absorbed by culture. culture only makes humans a trained animals. so how do you see language and words?
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Typing some fresh ones that come to mind 1. Where am I along my self actualization journey? 2. What is self acceptance? 3. What does it mean to be wise? 4. What systems do I have in place to ensure I remain grounded? 5. How am I overly dependant on teachers like Leo? 6. How can I take more personal responsibility? 7. How can I bring more consciousness into my life? 8. What is intentional living? 9. What types of contemplation are there? 10. What types of meditation are there? 11. How do I become open minded without losing my footing on survival? 12. How can I use math, logic, reason and strategy more often in my life? 13. How can I balance spiritual pursuits with the very real external environment so I live a balanced enjoyable life 14. Why am I doing this? 15. Why do I enjoy this? 16. What are my addictions? What is the nature of addiction? What tools do I have to overcome this addiction? 17. Why do I know better than I perform or act on a daily basis? 18. Why am I so scared of what people may or may not think of me? 19. Why is the particular thing taboo? Am I brave enough to deeply question this cultural standard? 20. Why do I hate or think this person or group of people is evil? 21. How are my current strategies and life paradigms helping or making my life worse 22. Do I know what this substance, technique or peice of information is? Or has it been distorted through my own faulty database and interpretation mechanisms 23. How do I let go off past errors and mistakes which still haunt me? 24. How do I embrace unconditional love? 25. Why is there this difference between my ideals, my self image, my spiritual values and my ability to embody them. Do I have a practice of measuring this? 26. What are the areas of my life that I am most unconcious? 27. What is the nature of the ego? My ego and those around me? 28. Why do I give such importance to the opinions of other people? 29. What is the difference between a rational thought and irrational neurotic thought? 30. Why do I avoid getting help? 31. How does my need to see myself as strong, independent, a leader or awakened get in the way of my asking for the help I need 32. What false identities am I clinging to? 33. What does the truth matter to me? 34. Why do I fail to change even when I know I should? 35. Why does this thought loop through my head? 36. What is transference and its role in mental distortions? 37. How does my body feel? 38. What would maximal health look and feel like? 39. How would it feel if my muscular and skeletal system were in perfect condition? 40. How many stretches are there? Why are there so many? Have I taken time to feel into my body? 41. What is body awareness? 42. What are chairs? 43. What is the relationship between difference forms of Qigong, Yoga, Meditation, chanting, healing sounds, energy healing, psychedelics, talk therapy, dance, tantric and taoist sex practice, ectsatic dance, community, art, etc 44. What would the best human operating system look like? 45. How am I changing for the better? 46. How has this new tool helped, or hindered my progress 47. Why did I begin this in the first place? 48. Why am I scared of taking action, talking to that person etc 49. What is the difference between the stories I tell myself and my direct experience? 50. What are books? Memes? Threads? Articles how do I treat different pieces of information? 51. How do I research? 52. What is the relationship of time to the human lifespan, hours of work, survival, life purpose, rest, relationships, body bare, mental healthy, personal finances etc and keeping it all balance and harmonious 53. What are skills and what is the nature of skill building? 54. What do I really want? 55. Is this the right technique for this moment in my life? 56. What does it mean to become successful? 57. What is systems thinking? 58. What does it feel like, look like to myself and others when I am totally sober, clean minded, present, without fear of past or future. 59. How can I be my own best friend? 60. What is the difference between using a psychedelic, and meditation? Are they use for all the same goals? How and how not? 61. How have I become complacent with my personal work? 62. How can I improve this health issue? 63. What does it mean that you are God? Does that mean the rules of the game changes for me? Or, am I changing in relation to the game 64. How many hours does each skills, technique, are of mastery involve to develop? Have I created a mock study plan and see how long it actually takes to learn anything? 65. How am I bullshitting myself? 66. What being sane, grounded, wise, truthful and sober mean? 67. What does contribution mean to me? 68. What will my life look like when I am calm, collected, focused, organized, taking the small hard steps everyday, 69. What does the ideal path forward look like to being making positive changes in my life? 70. What does it mean to be a kind, loving person? 71. What does it mean to develop healthy strong boundaries? 72. Who is Osho, Sadhguru, Leo, Mosho, etc what are their simulatirities and differences? Do I see how each one has someothing unique to offer? Am I able to blend the golden nuggets of each teacher? 73. What is consent? 74. What is a healthy relationship? 75. How do I accurately or can I even accurately gauge my own maturity or level of knowledge in the areas of mastery in my life? 76. How can I use my suffering as guide to greater happiness and self awareness? 77. How can I use mistakes as powerful tool of self correction? 78. What does it mean that every day is a new opportunity of adventure in self discovery towards cosmic truth and riches 79. What is spirituality? Why am I pursuing it? Am I doing so in a healthy way (swop in any pursuit) 80. Why am I avoiding doing the things I love? 81. How do the mental movies I play in my mind free me or keep me in a mental prison? 82. What would I do if I was fearless? 83. Why do I NEED to be liked by others to still perform at a high level 84. Why do I hide from myself with social media, youtube, Actualized.org forum and videos 85. What is sleep? 86. What is Art? 87. What is God? 88. What is hard work? 89. What is the value of high quality, consistent habits? 90. What is the difference between models of reality and systems for living? What is my refresh rate? 91. What does it mean that different humans around me are operating with subltly, or profoundly different operating systems, datases, experiences, word meanings contexts, schema etc? 92. How do I navigate complex social environment skillfully and with grace? 93. What is de-armouring and how could it benefit my life? 94. How do I let my gremlins go? 95. How often should I refer back to books? 96. Why do I waste time in fear and distraction and not joy, growth and creativity? 97. Why don't I deserve love? 98. Who am I? 99. What is death? 100. How do I enjoy playing victim? 101. How do I go about watching Leos Videos 102. How do I act impatiently or impulsively? 103. How do I gather and use statistics to form my world view? 104. How do I stop being mechanical and live my own life free of constant mechanicalness and fear? 105. Am I doing this for pleasure or for growth? 106. How does this fit into the larger picture of my goals?
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Inliytened1 replied to wildflower's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@wildflower your talking the distinction between enlightenment and embodiment. They are two different things. I'm awakened l but I don't always embody Truth. It ain't always easy when you have a powerful ego. But it doesn't mean you can't be enlightened or be spiritually gifted as fuck or an intuition though the roof. The older I get though I start to embody it more because it causes less suffering. Selfishness is the cause of all suffering. -
VeganAwake replied to Demeter's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah that's right. Oneness points to the recognition that the individual experiencer within the body is an illusion. (Adviata) While sunyata declares even that apparent experience of no separation as ultimately illusory. (Ajata) If you're interested check out Robert Wolfe's Ajata Sunyata Project: "The seeming person continues to live out her life (from supposed “birth” to “death”) in a seeming world, in a seeming universe. Yet, in what could be said to be the true or ultimate reality of emptiness, not anything ever has, or could, happen. From the ultimate standpoint, there is not anything that ever needs to be explained. Any questions which arise and any answers are within the Dream–and the Dream is not real. Those who understand this, the sages would say, have awakened from the big Dream. Whether one does or does not, in the end, makes absolutely no difference. But for those who do awaken, all their questions–within the Dream–are seen to be utterly empty" - Robert Wolfe -
TrippyMindSubstance replied to TrippyMindSubstance's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is pretty much what makes it hard for me to balance surrender and action. I've had these awakenings where reality collapses into a singularity, everything disappears, time doesn't exist, preferences are absolutely meaningless etc. and then its like there's nothing left to do but restart the universe and separate back into a separates self. But once I'm back in separation, I have two desires that seem to be in conflict with each other: the desire to know God, Truth etc. and basically re-enter the singularity, and the ego desires like survival, pleasure etc. The pain caused by my ego desires is always what pushes me back to spirituality and re-seeking enlightenment, and then the result of enlightenment always seems to be "congratulations you've awakened, now go back into duality and play the game. Without rules there is no game, so go play within the limited rules of duality!". Maybe this back and forth process is what I need to surrender to. Maybe it's equally as okay to seek enlightenment as it is to seek normal "wordly" desires and that I need to fully give myself to whatever seems to be calling me. I can tell my mind is just getting way too chatty right now so it's definitely time to go meditate and enjoy the present moment and let all these thoughts subside for now. -
erik8lrl replied to The Buddha's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The more awakened you are, the more connected you are to God. You will more and more be living through intuition and your true desire (Love). To those who are truly God-realized, it's impossible to live without viewing the world from a perspective that is closer to God. A perspective that is as holistic as possible, combining logic and emotion to form intuition through wisdom. You no longer need to know how everything will play out. Being God/infinite love, you are free to just be and enjoy existence for what it is. For the first time in your existence, you are truly free to make decisions for yourself (as God), no more illusions and self-deception. You know with absolute clarity what you are and why you exist. You are then free to follow love/God in everything you do and wish to experience. And everything you do has the balance/maximization of the love you have for yourself, for others, and everything else in existence. -
Intraplanetary replied to caspex's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
oh my this is so true. acceptance of and surrendering to suffering healed and awakened me. -
It still doesn't address my central point, which is that it's obviously possible to experience direct consciousness and one's true nature without ever framing anything through the word God. Buddhism (and the Buddha, for that matter) never mention God, either as a metaphysical ground or as an aspect of reality. And yet if you look at the global landscape of awakened beings, Buddhism has seemingly produced a great many more than most religions that use the term God in any capacity. My point is, the language is frankly irrelevant. One does not need to employ the word God to reach full understanding of reality. It is one term among millions that may apply, based on one's cultural and religious fixations.
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Not sure what all the commotion is about. Human minds are very thick and dense, and in this case...the word God has to be used to get through all cleverly programmed defense mechanisms of the Ego. Language can only go so far, and this word (necessarily) pushes it to its limits. If you still identify as a human, you ain't woke..no matter how "awakened" you claim to be. Most of you don't want to take responsibility for constructing all of reality, especially your problems, neurosis, bad habits and people you resent/take issue with. Being God means you take full ownership of every aspect of reality. And that is hard for many Egos/dense human minds.
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Carl-Richard replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It was what lead to the insight of the middle way ‐ that extreme deprivation was yet another survival drive. He didn't actually have his final dying breath while fasting. That was only when he finally awakened -
OneHandClap replied to spinderella's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Conflate means to, on a basic level, muddy two concepts to the point where they are useless as individual terms. If someone conflates happiness with success, they have entangled the two definitions to the point where we can't use them properly in a rational discussion. Bear in mind that at this point in your path (you are just getting into it, yes?) you do not have to take anything on belief alone. If you have not verified that consciousness is the only thing that exists (it is apparent with a little bit of contemplation, yes, but we have not been taught that in school and culture), then don't worry about believing it on faith right now. What matters is your moment-to-moment investigation of what is always true for you. Stay with that. Don't worry about what any religion, teacher, doctrine, book, or video tells you. You are your own best detective in the matter of reality. If you can keep returning to stillness over... and over... and over... again, the words will fall away. The truth will be made evident on its own. Remember—the human brain is wired to try to understand reality in a neat, prepackaged way that it can use to help your body persist. Its only job is to keep you alive, not happy. Let the brain veg out for a while. Let it relax, unwind, get away from the searching. Then the whole notion of enlightenment will seem silly, because it will become clear that you have always been what you are, which is awake. Enlightenment is merely the recognition of this awakened nature. Edit: I am aware that my use of brain here is provisional. Yes, there is no such thing as a brain, it is a concept. We get that. I'm merely using this language since it will resonate with most of our materialist upbringings and preconceived frames of reality The map isn't the territory!