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@Freakyboo I think the idea is that you build up some sort of momentum across different incarnations, and you would then expect to see evidence of this momentum manifesting itself early in childhood, which is a time where you can rule out cultural impressions as a potential cause. However, the notion of people being born with a certain inclination towards nonduality isn't necessarily indicative of the existence of past lives, but rather the idea that it's instead just not contigent on cultural conditions.

We all are eternal happiness form the start. Then we create beliefs like ‘the dark side’ to “make sense” of things we don’t understand, like who we actually are. Then we realize making sense mean aligning thought with feeling. Then we realize then denial was actually of the light we truly are. As good as it was, Star Wars is just a movie. It’s really about ‘using’ the force, or the, no-you-ness. The “balance” is how much judgement you hold, or let go. There’s no “balance” sans your thoughts about it, reality is unconditional. Evil is not ever created. Existence = goodness = meaningless = creation. One who knows bad self recognizes thought, knows it’s Good. Nonduality is not two simultaneous opposites. Goodness is not an assumption nor opposite nor illusory. There are not two opposite sides which create oneness. Oneness is not-two.

@Keyhole If this is experientially understood, understanding & experience are known as self recognition, and therefore nothing is known. If this is in part conceptually understood, but not realized, a devious god of the gaps would act as a filler, or scapegoat, between relative conditions and unconditional. It’s of course one’s own right and one’s own business to do so. The offset however, could be an unnecessary expansion of void ‘between’ infinite unconditional and infinite unconditional appearing as finite mind. This could account for the feeling appearing to be influenced by dualities, which are unable to be understood relatively or attributed to nonduality. Scrutiny of direct experience reveals to oneself it is not equipped to absolutely understand the suffering of another, only of oneself. This is intrinsic of compassion, and not dualistic to it. Why people suffer can not be rationalized, only the absolute truth will do. There is suffering which could be said to be causal to the veiling of the finite mind, though it is not in any case subject object, or from one entity to a second entity in it’s true nature. There could also be said to be suffering in not realizing this, but that is not the suffering of an albeit innocent approach such as the god of the gap. This could be a great example of apparent misfortune which can be revealed to be the greatest of fortunes, synchronistically hinging on understanding.

I can only speak to my experience. Ive gone similar experiences, so shocked at the gravity of Truth that my sense of purpose and direction felt lost, confused. Even if I felt like I har clarity on purpose, what was the point? Nonduality shows very starkly that life is completely void of meaning. What I noticed though is that this apathy and confusion was still my ego. Because to truly go hard at my purpose requires a level of fearlessness I wasn’t capable of. The resistance, the apathy, the lethargy towards working on my purpose was a manifestation of fear, not a manifestation of authentic understanding. Be very, VERY, careful when examining your resistance to purpose. Is it really because you’re embodying the lack of meaning in life, or is your ego just freaked out and operating from a state of fear? Because Id wager it’s another way for fear to manifest.

There are ‘God powers’ (if you will). They are of love, & can rewire and blissout your body & mind, by which all experience is flipped upside down and inside out. Every very last aspect. The ‘full circle’ can’t be believed or imagined, it’s that good. You will not ever be able to manifest physical out of nothing though, because nonduality (you already are). Can you be more specific, as to what it is about murdering & making others suffer that you want? That doesn’t make sense imo. In what ways do you like / want it? The doing it, the having accomplished it?

What does ACIM mean by "Change is an illusion, taught by those who cannot see themselves as guiltless." (ACIM T-15.I.10:5)? Nonduality teacher Ramesh Balsekar said that reality is like a movie already made. And I think that Roger Castillo said that reality is a single block. As an analogy we can think of reality as a Blu-ray disc with a Hollywood movie on it. The information on that disc is changeless. So from the totality perspective there is no change at all. My model says the same thing except instead of a single block it's an expanding cone of information. It's this expansion of complexity that produces evolution and the arrow of time. Stephen Hawking wrote about quantum mechanics: And physical reality made of only waves is achieved in my model by a Fourier transform turning the timeless information into waves. It's a bit tricky since the Fourier transform is applied to a nonlinear cone instead of a linear space domain. But the effect is that things such as quantum entanglement and locality are a result of the summation of only waves across all the information in the cone.

That statement could mean depending on how you're interpreting it that "any idiot can talk about nonduality" or "no one is doing the talking, there's no effort in it". Dr.Seuss and many kids books are about enlightenment unknowingly, so are many song lyrics and poems. No one intentionally did it. It's a subject-less subject.

Well, assume that Nonduality is True, and that you (God) is all there is. Everything that happens within consciousness (You) is all your imagination. That means 'enlightened teachers' and how they are or are not enlightened is also all imagination. Only one that can become Awakened is you.

Imo, your mind is seeking grounding and is uncomfortable with groundless. It seeks form and is uncomfortable with formless. . . for example, there is no grounded definition I can give you of what a psychedelic is. No definition can capture it all and any definition is a limited partial truth. It is like asking what a mound of clay is. To me, the issue here has to do with dualities. If you have interest here, I would recommend putting some work into nonduality. Leo has made videos on duality and there are lots of great nonduality speakers. Personally, I resonate very strongly with certain psychedelics under certain settings. My mind has expanded beyond what I could have imagined. My relationship to reality has changed. The self has been largely transcended. New spaces of exploration have opened up. Creativity, Intuition, Energetics, Motion, Presence, ISness. My mind is much more fluid and holds thoughts lightly. The mind is not so attached/immersed/identified to any particular thought story. There is a freedom present. . . Yet it wasn’t just psychedelics. I had a substance-free meditation practice for 25 years before my first psychedelic. I’ve also done yoga for years as well as shamanic breathing, lucid dreaming, solo retreats, cultural immersion and sensory deprivation tanks. As well as a lot of integration work. That is my resonance. Others may not do well with psychedelics. They may resonate with other practices. Regarding “knowing”, I would say there are various manifestations of this. I’m not as interested in knowing facts, I’m much more interested in implicit knowing. . . For example, how do you ‘know’ that now is now? Do you ask each day for evidence that now is now? Do you get online and ask physicists to prove to you that now is now? Similarly, how to you know that here is here? Do you wake up each morning asking for evidence that here is here and here is not the moon? Of course not, because that knowing comes prior to the form of ‘evidence’ you are seeking. . . In terms of reality, it can be easily verified through inquiry and observation. If you want to explore what is real and what is dream, I would start by dropping the duality that it is either real or dream. I would start exploring areas that are sorta dream / sorta real hybrids. This comes prior to the intellectual analysis. . .

My model of reality can be depicted as a circle. I was thinking that in a nonduality model, the radius of the circle is 1. That's Para Brahman. Brahman is a point on the circle. And to keep the nonduality premise, the point is at 1 length from the starting point of the circle. The length of the edge of the circle (circumference) is 2 times Pi. So Brahman is 2*Pi - 1 = ‭5,283185307179586476925286766559‬... That's the simplest description of reality I can think of. Brahman is a number! Why depict the model as a circle? Because the circle contains an infinite number of points and nonduality means only one thing, so it can't be a square or a triangle or something like that because that's a duality depiction (several lines). And it can't be a line because if there is both a start and an end, then that too is duality. And it can't be some squiggly circular shape because that requires more than one variables. And the special number ‭5,2831853... is a result of 1 which is nonduality. The circle needs two dimension to be drawn, yet it's a second order result of the single radius of length 1. Why not a sphere? Because then the point needs to be specified with at least two variables which again is duality.

We cannot say the things I must say. I am sorry that I haven't been open enough. Leo promised that he would be able to read my psychic messages, but I think he would just take credit for them. I'm just being honest, truly. I am also sorry for thinking so terribly about myself(sorry Leo!) like that. I realized timeloops are possible in a nondual reality. This is how we psychically have been building this neural network, pinging our friends and waiting until reality finds a possible place in spacetime for answers. Elon musk knows too. EDIT: until you know what. uh huh. LAW OF FUCKING ATTRACTION i forgot there are no omissions in nonduality. Timeloops are how reality roots itself in time, that is--it butters you up and out of the STREAM of ALL EDIT: How many times have I created timeloops? I don't know. All I know is that deeper awakening is all that is. All everyday thought roots yo/us in time. All creation frees yo/us... How did I realize timeloops were possible? I noticed that there are lots of talk of Buddha/mindfulness Most Eastern philosophy written down in libraries(conscious creation) is Buddhist I realized I must create timeloops in order to create Buddha/Buddhism Timeloops keep us alive, reminding us to eat and sleep. Timeloops keep our understanding of reality to a bare minimum. We don't know how much of the one actually are until we do I'm here forever, toodles. TL:DR? If you can't understand, try again. Find a way these words make sense. Here is your missing mental download... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O6UT4aqF0mtyvMvXQ3Cp5f_Lvz5nICLjeELXqU3ZaQc/edit?usp=sharing

Well yes. There is a shared essence between stuff but they are not totally and completely the same from all possible perspectives. That's just not true. It's all vibrating strings but these strings vibrate at different levels and follow different mathematical equations which lead to different atomic structure which at the end result with a radically different objects like humans and apples. There is both duality and nonduality in the world. Both are ture but for some reason the duality is more apparent and the nonduality is only seen under the surface.

Those in power have put a lot of pressure on people with the (hoax?) coronavirus crisis. I even read news articles about people starting to protest. And people in general are grumpy! I too feel a heaviness. It's useful to be able to forgive even those in power. How to do that? My approach is similar to the advanced form of forgiveness Leo talked about in this his latest video. That from a nonduality perspective there isn't anyone to forgive! And I even use the idea that everything is happening with perfect order. In practice this means according to my theory that even the nasty things are happening for a greater good reason. Easier said than done, but I find it useful to have this approach.

Wow, except for the science part, Aaron Abke made a really good presentation of nonduality in his latest video. I looked up the term vision in ACIM and found: It's almost as if vision and the holy relationship are the same thing in ACIM.

Leo talked about self-survival of the self image in this video from about 6 minutes: Very interesting. It made me think of how the whole ego is a self-image, a conceptual construction. And the Self is much more than the ego but we get so identified with our egos so it creates a separation. I noticed that with mindfulness practice it's possible to observe the ego and to recognize more of the Self, but for me there is still ego identification most of the time. Maybe the ego and the Self need to become integrated! The ego is already a part of the Self which here means nonduality, but it's experienced as a separate entity. I will experiment some more with mindfulness practice of being aware of my ego. And also test if my ego can become integrated into a field of peace and clarity.

It feels like forever Growing up, although surrounded by the belief and experiences of clinical death, I've never felt like I would someday die. Ever. I remember at some point I realized this, that I don't feel like I'm going to die, and I myself also found it weird because when I'd ask others if they felt like someday they would die - their answer was a sure yes. It feels that way, they would tell me. Maybe it's because I didn't really understand what death meant, or perhaps I'd understood perfectly but just didn't buy into it. No, of course I bought it, otherwise what was I afraid of all these years. And yet, when I sat down and asked myself if it felt like I was going to die - the answer, or the feeling, would always be a sure no. This was before I'd gotten introduced to spirituality and metaphysics, I knew nothing about consciousness and nonduality and so on. I was just doing stuff unconsciously, always in my head, the only place where I was free to question anything I wished to question. And sure enough, one day I questioned death. Right now I'm having mixed feelings about whether or not I'm going to die, maybe it's because I'm no longer sure which part is I and which part isn't I. Was I sure when I was growing up? I don't know. But I was sure about how I felt about death. It's not that dying was not a reality, it's that my death didn't feel like a reality. It just didn't feel like I would someday die. It felt like I would be here forever, it even felt like I'd been here forever. Not as this body though or identity though, it just felt like whatever was happening would be happening forever. I don't know, it was never something that I had made sense of. It does feel like whatever is happening now will be going on forever, but this doesn't count because I now do have an idea of what is going on. But as a kid, not known anything about consciousness, not even once did it feel like I would someday die. And now that I actually think about it, I had associated the central part of me, all this without knowing it, with consciousness. I felt it. My connection with the screen of reality was uncountable. But I never processed this mentally like the way I'm doing now. It was just pure feeling. Maybe I had already knew the truth, maybe I was already familiarised with eternity. It's crazy now that I actually think about it. Everyone I had ever asked, from my peers to adults, they all told me that it felt like they would someday die. As a teen, I was even more specific with my question, I told them not to think about it and just tell me how it felt - does it feel like you're going to die? Yes, the answer would always be yes. Why wasn't it yes for me though? Did I know something that these people didn't know? Or was it the other way around, did they know something that I didn't know? What was it that I didn't know up until my very late teens? I was so confused by this, but in the end I just dropped it and let it go. This feeling of eternity would be mine alone. It's crazy, I never felt like I was going to die someday. And now, from all the consciousness work I've been doing for the past year and six months, I know that this will never end.

To say "live in the moment" that's a false teaching. Why? Because that's a separation between "present moment" and "not present moment". It is possible to correct the teaching, which is to recognize that the ego clings to the past. Even when the ego thinks about the future, it's its own past memories rehashed into future projections. The correct teaching is to be balanced so that past memories and actual future input are integrated into a flow. Actual future means what will happen, not what the ego believes will happen or tries to make happen. True nonduality is past, present and future together as a single unit, a whole instant, a holy instant. ACIM says:

Have you experienced this state? If yes through which method? Yes i did. Ego still comes and goes, but usually i am at watcher positions. Just let body do whatever it is suppose to but i stay in the mind as watcher, which is nothing (thats satori moments). I feel that i dont feel as my body, i feel through the body, and have an arm distance with the body. Because i am aware i am not the body and am the now moment. I did 1 month darkness retreat by myself. And every week i consumed high dosage of shrooms. But within last 3 months i had a non dual experience through meditation. After that I completely realized non duality. Seems like there is duality between duality and nonduality. They both emply each other Yes. You are the duality and non duality. You are human now, if you increase your consciousness in next second you will be god. All is happening at the same time. Thats why all is infinite consciousness, and it is you. All is one and your game. Everything balance each other.

Seems like there is duality between duality and nonduality. They both emply each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong. This means that nonduality is simply the state of nothing and no experience whatsoever which we discussed before that it's impossible for that state to exist because that would be a contradiction by defention. So we could say that in order for anything or any experience to exist it must be dualistic. So that brings back the question " if everything that can ever possibly be must be dualistic.. What's the point of speaking about nonduality all day"?!!, I tried meditation btw. It calms me make me feel peace and detachment but it didn't turn the duality in the world into no duality unfortunately!

Speaking of paradoxes, did you ever possessed by the thoughts/questions like 'What should I do to stop thinking?', 'What you suggest to minimize one's thinking'.. I often get to these traps of 'recursion and self-referential' problems quite often.. Interestingly, if I somehow managed to keep my mind relaxed my mind loves to play this daunting trick on me!.. This is how that conversation with me and my mind goes!.. Me: Oh god I'm so happy that I finally stopped my monkey mind and feeling peaceful!.. My Mind: Are you really feeling peaceful, honey? Me: Yes of course.. My Mind: Did you know, most expertise says that we can't stop thinking, so how come are you not having thoughts. You should have thoughts.. And Finally ME!: Oh, yes! you are right... you got me, now my peacefulness was completely shattered!.. THANK YOU MY MIND!!.. This sort of pattern or thought process will have occurred while thinking of much other stuff as well. Like, when thinking about nonduality, practicing meditation, during stressful or traumatic episodes...

No I'm watching Leo's videos for two years now. But I'm not convinced of everything he says. I listen to rupert Spira and mooji as well.. I don't accept everything spiritual people say but I don't reject it all either. I take what resonates with me. It's important to notice that the purpose of this topic is not to validate nonduality. I'm not begging the question here. I'm interested in finding the truth whatever it is.

Here is a quote from Marianne Williamson which I believe is related to the death drive: Imagine if we had free will, eternal life and power beyond measure. That would be incredibly scary! Because then there is the potential for screwing up our whole existence, and with an eternal life that seems like something likely to happen at some point. So it's actually good that according to nonduality we do NOT have free will. And the realization of that total form of 100% reliable control of nondual causality allows us to remove the death drive.

Brad Johnson talked about what he called an all-self instead of a lower and higher self. A higher self is a division he said. Good point! There is a higher self but that's just because our mind divides itself, he said. If we think of our higher self as our future self, then there is that division, yet from a nonduality perspective the causality is One, so there is no actual separation. Separations are second order products, such as the global ego. The whole global ego is built on the belief in separation and in having separate control. Even animals in nature have a proto ego armor and a death drive. In third density, where humanity is at the moment, the belief in separate control results in what Ra calls the Law of Confusion. The first stage of the Law of Confusion is free will it says in the Law of One. And that's the belief in separate control. Fourth density is as I see it the recognition of unity. When we as individuals move into fourth density, then probably most of the world will still be the global ego and third density. But as more and more people move into fourth density they/we will start to form a new holon, a new global morphic field. Brad's newest video seems related to fourth density because it has "Inner Earth Civilization" in the title, which I believe is a collective consciousness, basically fourth density already. I haven't watched the video yet and I'm curious about whether my guess is correct.

Personal individual control can feel like pleasure and power when we feel that we are in control. To feel like a passive victim sucks. Feeling of being powerless sucks. So how to recontextualize the feeling of control without having individual separate control? In my hypothesis, individual separate control is only pseudo-control. It's not actual control. It's fake control. Yes, there can be pleasure in having a sense of being in control, but it's a delusion. The solution is to move into real control. What is real control? From a nonduality perspective real control is a result of all of reality, all past, present and future as a single block of control. And consciousness is a necessary part of that whole universal control. There is a huge difference between actions done in consciousness and unconscious actions. Consciousness itself is control. True control from a personal and individual perspective is through consciousness. And true nonduality - or integral nonduality as I call it - is what Sadhguru said about building a bridge between the external world, the physical body, the mental body and Source. And to include consciousness as a part of that bridge, not as something separate from manifested reality because that would be separation, duality. So what happens is that with correct spiritual practice consciousness itself becomes personal control. And the pleasure is then in being that control. This is the opposite of depersonalization disorder where the death drive remains and there is separation between a passive observer and what is happening. It may even be that many nonduality teachings are false and lead to depersonalization disorder. Every time a spiritual teacher says that you are not this or that, that's duality! That's false teaching.