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What no-self is observed by is what you are. It's just that that is nothingness. Any element of the self, be it a thought, or emotion, your name, sound, sight, memory, is going to observed by the nothingness... So everything you would consider the self is an appearance to the sheer consciousness which is nothingness and what you are. The sum total of everything, meaning nothing and all objects appearing to it (all period, so not just mine or yours but all existent objects) is just total infinity. It's not a God, not any thing, not nothing. It's infinity which encompasses BOTH nothing and something.

So this whole idea of letting it go seems like an illusion. You can only let go of what is already gone , so in a sense there is nothing to let go of . So it's more of acceptance. Accepting that you have no control and cannot hold on or let go . They seem like opposites of the same pole. Even acceptance looks illusory because there is nothing to accept there is just Truth. You cannot add or subtract from truth ,TRUTH IS before we spin any stories about it . It's like Desire. Fulfilling desires always takes place in the future so it does not allow you to be (happy) now. So if you want to be happy , you are unable to be happy because happiness must come later , in the future after you get or accomplish what you want. And if you are unhappy you desire to stop this unhappiness . Desire is pretty much wanting and as always our wants are not here now so we are suffering until we get our wants/desires. Wanting and not wanting are really two sides of the same coin . So you could want someone in your life and you can also want to NOT want a person in your life. The key to this is not to desire. But then immediately you will see that you desire not to desire lollers! think I now understand the importance of knowing why we the egoes "must" be destroyed.... The buddha keeps calling us a fool. Now I understand why we are fools. We believe suffering will never come to us. So we cling to our objects thinking it will give us pleasure long. It does.... We feel pleasure.... Just like kids playing with our toys.... It's very pleasurable....... No hardship.... Until we go to school.... We begin to have problems. But pleasure never lasts, it never does. It Will never ever last long. Even the earth and the universe. but to cling to our bodies.... Is surely foolish. That's why the Buddha emphasizes the importance of losing our body, the world. It is we that cling to the world and the body. It is us, it is not the problem of the universe. We keep blaming the universe, body, our lack of money.... Etc.... But yet we never look at our selves to see that it is use that clings to these things. We are clinging to them... And that we are blaming that which is lost. We intuitively know everything will be lost.... But we still cling to them. Good example.... A disciplined person. Eating healthy, good to people. Loving, work hard, great relationships, great heart, ... He goes to the doctor because of a sore stomach. The doctor says he has cancer. He says "me? Why me? I work hard, I'm kind, good to people, I have a great heart, I excercise and eat healthy. Why me?" That person is still foolish. It clearly shows that he always believed that his body will never break down if he eats healthy... When actually the it is a natural process of the law of the universe to things to be born and die. So even though he had done healthy things.... And was "kind" to people. He is still foolish to have believed that even his cared body will now betray his belief. But I'm not criticizing his care for health.... But all I'm criticizing is his belief that he will never suffer for clinging to the body. whats wrong with clinging to the earth? Well even the earth will be destroyed. Even the whole galaxy.... And nothing will be left. Which is nothingness we are going for.

Because the removal of somethingness causes the exact conditions that make its own existence necessary and impossible to avoid. God doesn't exist, it's just literally infinity. It is sentient only because it contains sentience, it chooses only because it contains choice. The totality as a whole has no choice, there's no chooser to make any choice. Infinity simply cannot help but be infinite. When people say infinite love that is because they are identifying the nothingness as God, and not the somethingness in which hatred (rejection of X or Y) exists. It is really both though. Infinite love as well as infinite rejection. Because it's both nothingness and all somethingness. Including someone's hatred of cancer and pain and suffering. It contains selfishness along with the nothingness that is totally selfless... Selflessness, acceptance, and peace being DEFAULT AKA the lack of attribute. Peace is merely a lack of anxiety, acceptance a lack of rejection. Etc.

Well I don't believe anything would be changed point blank because I don't believe things are the way they are due to selflessness. I think it's the actual necessity of an infinity. It can't help but be infinite. So infinite in fact that it can't ever comprehend itself in totality because there is simply no end in any direction. And it's not even a sentient thing, it contains sentience, so the wording I just used is a bit humanizing. I imagine it's like trying to comprehend what "infinite clear" would LOOK like. We can't comprehend it without adding an artificial backdrop like black or white. Infinity can't ever be comprehended fully in its totality, for that exact same reason. It becomes nothingness and non-experience as in cessation. No God has ever woken from this dream. None ever will. What is happening is from a relative stance, a person realizes God (AKA nothingness AKA infinity AKA not a deity or person despite containing sentience in it). It's a relative experience still... When you are dead you are fully enlightened to total infinity, and yet there you are mourning at your own funeral. The illusion continues. Forever. God waking up to itself as a totality is not possible, because it would collapse all something to nothing, and removal of something means removal of any limit which means nothingness is infinite (nothing exists to limit it) and there is infinite somethingness still as a result. You can't split the two. You can't end the illusion because removing something causes the EXACT parameters that necessitate its very own existence!

Do you see that it doesn't actually achieve anything at all on a cosmic scale? Did I experience nothingness? I knew nothingness for sure. I knew myself to be nothingness through an experience I was having. I could not know myself to be nothingness if I was under general anaesthesia. Maybe I would somewhere else in the world simultaneously but you know what I mean. I am still right now on death row and doing all sorts of evil shit, I'm still Sam Harris arguing for materialism etc. So whatever viewpoint was gained or state of consciousness tapped into, it is STILL a relative one. Entering the state of consciousness which is literally nondual, meaning nothing even APPEARS to take form at all, causes cessation, and thus can't be experienced. Any sort of awakening directly impacts your relative life only. As long as experience is happening, and it eternally is and will, you are experiencing relativity in some way.

Both nothingness and somethingness are what you are, literally speaking. And the totality is IMO not you. All elements of you are reducible to the singularity. But the singularity is, vice versa, not reducible to any sort of you. You aren't imagining the world or laws of physics etc. These are things beyond any "you", they're not something you're controlling or willing into being. The totality can't be called you I don't think, for these types of reasons. Consciousness = nothingness. Literally. It's literally nothingness in substance. It's a silly word really, because no normal person will see "consciousness" and think it's anything but something...

I very much prefer interpretations which acknowledge the separation as much as the oneness. For me appearing to appear = appearing. An illusion = a real illusion. My most prominent understanding, I felt, came from the split instead of becoming the visuals etc. A little clown man in my mind pointed at me in the foreground, and that did it... The "don't look at me here, look at you back there", then I found I was literal complete nothingness.

I don't understand this interpretation. There is nothing, the subject, and nothing-appearing-to-be-NOT-nothing, the object. If nothingness never appeared to be not-nothing (objects) there'd not be any experience at all full stop. If there was only appearing somethings and NOT sheer nothing coinciding with it, there'd be no experience at all. Because objects never know objects. The subject exists and it is pure nothingness. Objects exist and their actual "substance" is pure nothingness but an object itself is not pure nothingness because it's pretending to be not-nothing. Reality is only actual due to subject and object divide, and nobody has ever experienced the literal singularity where things stop appearing as things and everything is literally nothing with no facades period. Seeing things as nothingness is just a reinterpretation of the actuality of the appearance of duality which is still right there irrespective of interpretation.

Past/future are just concepts you are creating. It is all happening "now". This "now" is infinite and can manifest itself as whatever it wishes. It it taking parts of itself, variables of infinity, which is this moment. It can take anything it whishes, whenever it whishes and that whenever is "now". It is like if you took every single concept ever possible an put it all on top if each other and merged it all into one. Your perception is the lens that focuses these concepts into your awareness. They are always there ready to be available. It just depends what you wish to focus on now. Just like your own imagination you can imagine whatever or whoever you wish. You imagination has no concept of time. There is no one to perceive the experiences of our imagination if you imagined a person. They do not have a POV, there is only the perception that you are imagining a person. Sure, you could imagine you are seeing through their eyes, but then its actually just your eyes lol. You adamantly reject what I say and call it a belief while telling me a belief you hold lol. The experience is the whole. "IS" is the keyword here. Everything "is" there is nothing you can point to that isn't this "is'ness", because it's You. It is the same substance which is manifesting your perception. If it's all consciousness, and dare I say there really is no word for it but it all is the same substance, then seeing, thinking, believing, perceiving, being, touching, feeling, tasting, outside, inside, giving, receiving, and I could list anything here is all the same substance. Infinite/Nothingness. If you are existing then it is existing, for it is You. Just because it doesn't seem like it can think/feel and all of that jazz does not mean the substance it's made of isn't self aware. If it wasn't self aware, you wouldn't be able to perceive it yourself. Hence self-aware. Yes, pretty much. The emptiness of a cup very much exists and it is the foundation that is needed in order to fill the cup up with somethingness.

I am yourself, now. Not future, not past. In your dreams you have at night do you experience the same dream but from another POV different times you fall asleep? The "now" is One instance and this instance is eternal. I am not a you for you to experience. But, the you now is under the illusion it's talking to me, but what's really happening is you are under the deception that this manifestation around you has another to be experienced at some point. This IS the point, there is no other point. A computer is experiencing for if you perceive it then it is You, it is One. There is no separation between you and it. So to say it's not experiencing is to create two. It is not "outside" of you to have it's own perceptive bubble, rather your perceptive bubble is the experience of it in total. You denying this, is also the experience. It is not right, nor is it wrong. There isn't even a you really, but I find that whole "there is no you" jargon to be tiring and silly to repeat as an answer for all things. The absence of an experience is an experience. It is the absence of experience, experience lol. The substance of all experience is the same. It is the essence of Nothingness brought into being by it's own Infiniteness. It can be anything it wishes, it is not even an "it" to be it. It just "is" or should I just say .... "is'ness is". How are the characters in your dream interacting if they are all just a product of your imagination? The same applies for reality.

It should in totality just be called infinity I think. And the building blocks called literal nothingness. Both subject and object are made of nothing. And both together is just actual complete infinity. The term God is very humanizing.

God is the formless foundation and essence of everything - infinite nothingness. You can call it the building blocks of existence.

@Bojan V I don’t assume anything in this post can come close to what I experienced. It’s kind of just a celebration of whatever it was. I’ll have to sleep and assess it later with contemplation. It was comforting, but you know how it is, ego comes back and forgets it all. All that doesn’t really resonate about omniscience. It was just nothingness combined with eternal infinity and formlessness, the end of suffering forever and ever. For ever. it’s foreshadowing my “afterlife”/“physical death” How can I explain this? Fucking pointless

Doesn't matter, duality is experienced by creatures without language. Humans aren't the only living things seeing duality. Any experience is duality. A creature eats food, it doesn't eat itself, there's cognition of self and other. This applies to all living things even plants where their "cognition" is alien to us. Nothing in absence of something is never experienced. It'd just be total nothingness. Something does not exist in absence of nothing, because things are made of perception. Remove nothing (named consciousness) and there's no awareness, hence no perception and again just nothingness alone which can't be experienced. All of this is happening inside the appearance of duality. Toad trips are happening inside of duality still. It's just so far from this that it seems to not be. A whiteout would be nonduality. But it's not because you can whiteout and duality continues: See me here. Infinity can't be experienced in the actual literal sense. Only finitude can be experienced. You can easily recognize that the color red you see is fundamentally infinity, but its appearing as something finite which is red and not blue. Your interpretation of it changes so red = blue, up = down, but that's cognition. It is still appearing as something finite.

@WokeBloke I haven't used his teachings so I can't tell you the effectivness of it. Nothingness and no-self is only halfway there so eventually you need to throw away the teaching and embrace fullness, everythingness and somethingness.

I interpreted the same experience very differently indeed. I think you are saying because the subject is nothing, it doesn't exist? I interpreted it as an existent nothing. It's there but its substance is literally nothing. Literally. But it's there. The same literal nothingness knowing all somethings through us, I don't think negates the fact of eternally apparent segregation. I can't describe your bedroom even if you are in it right now, and vice versa... Duality will always appear to exist.

Earlier, when I mentioned the vast majority of people who mistakenly consider themselves enlightened, I was referring to permanent enlightenment. True ego death is rare. For most of us, it is a process of chipping away at the ego over time. There are periods of freedom, like you experienced, but usually the ego slithers back out of the shadows when you least expect it. I've been studying "Dark Night of the Soul", by St. John of the Cross, and he describes this process with passion and deep personal insight. In his framework, there are actually two dark nights: the night of senses, followed by the night of spirit. The night of senses is fairly common for sincere spiritual seekers, but very few make it through the final night of the spirit. After the initial high of early awakening, there are periods of increasing darkness, which are deeply disconcerting, but also serve to dissolve the egoic self. This darkness is necessary to move us beyond the easy indulgence of spirituality, into the bone-deep realization of the nothingness of ourselves. It is only then, when you have suffered so profoundly that you want nothing but to be restored to the light of Consciousness that you once took for granted, that you release the ego once and for all. That final letting go is true enlightenment. It is not only the realization of our ultimate nature, but living in a perpetual state of light.

“Nothingness is a profound metaphysical notion. The most profound.” Not even close to the 8th or 9th Jhana and their implications. As far as things which occur in perception to those who haven’t accessed those higher jhanas, it’s quite amazing though. You wrote a lot of other good stuff here though.

Everyone understands what something is; as we walk down the streets or have any experience at all, we are always aware of something. We are aware of buildings, streets, people, thoughts, feelings and emotions, we are aware of all sense precepts. Furthermore when asked about nothing, we think it is the removal of something and replacing it with another something, such that relative to the first thing, there is nothing of it left. Most people’s understanding or use of nothing is a purely physical, material conceptualization, and it’s a relative transposition of one form of something, and replacing it with another form of something. Nothing doesn’t exist in material existence, there is always something there. Nothingness is a profound metaphysical notion. The most profound. It’s mentioned in most eastern philosophy or spirituality, and is the 7th stage of Jhana in Buddhist meditation: the mind base of Nothingness. The 6th stage is the mind base of Infinite Consciousness. Something is the limitation and constraint of Nothing. Something is contained within Nothingness. Nothingness is the metaphysical substrata of all of material reality and existence. It’s the substrate of something. To understand the above we have to abstract. You have to imagine a place before any material form exists, outside of any space or time, colours or shapes. This place is Infinity, as you will see Infinity and Nothingness are the same thing. Starting with something and removing the constraints and limits continuously you would inadvertently end up with Nothing. The process of removal will show you that as we progressively remove something’s limitations and constraints, we get closer and closer to Nothing. And that Nothing has the highest possible (infinite) potential to be anything or something. Nothingness is pure unconstrained, unconditioned, unlimited potentiality, or Absolute Infinity, or infinity^infinity. Nothingness or Absolute Infinity contains all mathematical, logical or scientific infinities. Notice how math is a limit, qualifier or constraint of Nothing or a limit or constraint on Infinity. There are infinite possibilities of paintings, films, art, games, human interactions, buildings, music, thoughts and so on and so forth. There are infinite possibilities for an infinite number of things. All thanks to Nothingness. As soon as you have something, there is now an infinite amount of things that it isn’t. Something is the negation of potentiality. If you ever wondered why something exists at all, it’s because within Absolute Infinity, there has to contain within itself, the negation of itself, the negation of potentiality,. And that negation is something. For any objection to the previous sentence; why does Nothingness have to contain the negation of itself? Well it has to by definition. Nothingness is Absolute Infinite potentiality, and the negation of itself is a possibility, because it contains all possible possibilities, it contains everything. Take a metaphysical Nothingness, now create anything from an electron, to an atom, to a finger. As soon as we can specify anything in any form of any scale whatsoever, there is now something, and an infinite amount of things it isn’t or can’t be. Something is a constraint, limitation and removal of possibilities. It is a constraint on Infinity or Nothing. Nothingness is actually the fabric of change. Because everything's true nature is Nothing. If its true nature was something, it could never become something else, it wouldn't be able to change. Nothingness is what allows form to mutate, grow, change and metamorphosize. It’s also the true nature of the person reading this. So far you might have followed me, you might deeply intuit what Im saying, you might conceptual or logically follow what I’m saying, and if for some of you, you are triggered, shouting at your screen, then I apologize, because it could possibly get worse. Nothingness and Love are the same thing, they are tautological. To understand what I’ve been saying so far and to understand Absolute Love, we have to understand what the term absolute means. Absolute means it has no opposite, it is independent of effect or infliction from all other possible things, it is true in all possible cases, that’s why it is a tautology. Absolute Tautology. However notice when we say it is independent from all other things, there is a contradiction that arises, how can this metaphysical notion of Love or Nothingness exist if it exists independent of existence? Well it doesn’t. Something is Nothing, Nothing is Love, all of something is Love, all of existence is Love, all of existence is Nothing. Love is Infinity is Nothingness. As an Absolute Tautology. True or Absolute Love is the most profoundly beautiful, transformative substance in existence. Let’s take a subsection of Absolute Love. Let’s constrain and condition it. This is what most of us do. Let’s take romantic love, love for a single person which is highly constrained and conditioned. Even directing it at all humans is a constraint. But a single human, already constrained, is only given to the human if they meet certain conditions like; agree to spend time with you, and not be intimate with other people, if they treat you in an agreeable way, if they uphold certain common values and standards and so forth. All of these are additional constraints or limits on Love. True Love or Absolute Love, has no constraints, it Loves everything and everyone, all parts of existence. It Loves human love, it Loves human hate, it Loves humans inability to fully Love, it Loves itself. It Loves you, not just the good parts, but all the bad parts. It Loves all the bad parts that could have been you that aren’t. It Loves everyone that has ever wronged you. It loves every murderer, rapist, and torturer, it Loves the fact that you also have the potential to be any of those, and it Loves that fact you're not. True Love doesn’t ask for any change or anything in return. It tells the pedophile, rapist or murderer; ‘I Love you regardless of what you do’. Paradoxically, this Love is the most transformative force in existence. It never asks for change, it Loves either way. This is what changes people the most. Fear is the negation of Love. People are afraid to Love. Love contains fear, it Loves it. Maybe you are starting to imagine or feel how powerful True Love is. People are afraid to Love because they are afraid of something, they are afraid something might happen to them if they Love, because they think that something belongs to them, it’s what they are. They are attached. Your ability to Love is directly related to your metaphysical attachments and identities to something, anything. All of spiritual traditions, perhaps even all of life itself, are teaching us Love, how to become Love. We do this by metaphysically becoming Nothing, Nothing is Love. Identity and attachment are both metaphysical notions, they are what constrain Nothing, so that you can become you; something. The Self, the ego, these are all underpinned by metaphysical attachments and identities. The bigger your ego, the reified your individual self, the more constrained and further away from True Love. The more we can slowly remove the constraints and limitations put onto ourselves; who we are, what our childhood was, how our future should be, our beliefs, what’s right or wrong, good or bad, the more we can become Nothing, and the more we become Love.

Seth Speaks notes and examples - chapter 3 My work and those dimensions of reality into which it takes me: We are aware of what you would call our past selves, those personalities we have adopted in various other existences. Because we use telepathy, we can hide little from each other, even if we wished to. I assure you that even now none of your thoughts are hidden, but are known quite clearly to your family and friends. You are simply not aware of this fact. This does not mean that each of us is like an open book to the other. There is such a thing as mental etiquette. We are much more aware of our own thoughts than you are. We realize our freedom to choose our thoughts, and we choose them with some discrimination and finesse. The power of thoughts has been made clear to us, through trial and error in other existences. We have discovered that no one can escape the vast creativity of the mental image, or of emotion. This does not mean that we are not spontaneous, or that we must deliberate between one thought or another, in anxious concern that one might be negative or destructive. That, in your terms, is behind us. Our psychological structure does mean that we can communicate in far more various forms than those which you are familiar, however. Pretend, for example that you meet a childhood friend whom you have long forgotten. Now you may have little in common. Yet you may have a fine afternoon's discussion centered about old teachers and classmates, and establish a certain rapport. So when I meet another, I may be able to relate to him much better on the basis of a particular past life experience, even though in my now we have little in common. We will be quite aware that we are ourselves, however - the multidimensional personalities who shared a more or less common environment at one level of our existence. As you will see, this analogy is a rather simple one that will do only for now, because past, present and future do not really exist in those terms. Our experience does not include the time divisions with which you are familiar. We have far more friends and associates than you do, simply because we are aware of varying connections in what we call for now past incarnations. We have of course therefore more knowledge at our fingertips. There is no period of time, in your terms, that you can mention, but some of us have been from there, and carry within our memories the indelible experience that was gained in that particular context. We do not feel the need to hide our emotions or thoughts from others, because all of us by now well recognize the cooperative nature of all consciousness and reality, and our part in it. We are highly motivated. Simply because we have at out command the full use of our energy, it is not diverted into conflicts. Now each whole self, or multidimensional personality, has its own purposes, missions, and creative endeavors that are initial and basic parts of itself and that determine those qualities that make it eternally valid and eternally seeking. We are finally free to utilize our energy in those directions. We face many challenges of quite momentous nature, and we realize that our purposes are not only important in themselves, but for the surprising offshoots that develop in our efforts to pursue them. In working for our purposes, we realize that we are blazing trails that can also be used by others. We also suspect that the purposes themselves will have surprising results, astounding consequences that we have never realized, and that they will merely lead to new avenues. When one has been born and has died many times, expecting extinction with each death, and when this experience is followed by the realization that existence still continues, then a sense of the divine comedy enters in. We are beginning to learn the creative joy of play and that all creativity and consciousness is born in the quality of play, as opposed to work, in the quickened intuitional spontaneity that I see as a constant through all my own existences, and in the experience of those I know. I communicate with your dimension, for example, not by willing myself to your level of reality, but by imagining myself there. All of my deaths would have been adventures had I realized what I know now. On the one hand you take life too seriously, and on the other, you do not take playful existence seriously enough. We enjoy a sense of play that is highly spontaneous, and yet I suppose you would call it responsible play. Certainly it is creative play. We play, for example, with the mobility of our consciousness, seeing how far one can send it. The pathways we make continue to exist and can be used by others. We leave messages to any who come by, mental signposts. We can be highly motivated therefore, and yet use and understand the creative use of play, both as a method of attaining our goals and purposes and as a uprising and creative endeavor in itself. Often the material I present will initially be given without any sign of my presence, seemingly as a startling revelation. In your system, for example, and in connection with the woman through whom I now write this book, initial contact on my part was made long before our session began. The personality was never consciously aware of the initial meeting. She simply experienced sudden new thoughts, and since she is a poet, these appeared as poetic inspirations. I had known of her psychic gifts since her childhood, but the insights necessary were channeled through the poetry until the personality attainted the necessary background that was needed in this particular case. As a part of my work, therefore, I have been coaching the young woman in one way or another, all of this as a preliminary to the serious world that began with our sessions. Space as you perceive it simply does not exist. Not only is the illusion of space caused by your own physical perceptive mechanisms, but it is also caused by mental patterns that you have accepted - patterns that are adopted by consciousness when it reaches a certain stage of evolution within your system. When you arrive, or emerge, into physical life, not only is your mind not a blank slate, waiting for the scrolls that experience will write upon it, but you are already equipped with a memory bank far surpassing that of any computer. You face your first day upon the planet with skills and abilities already built in, thought they may or may not be used; and they are not merely the result of heredity as you think of it. You may think of your soul or entity as some conscious and living, divinely inspired computer who programs its own existences and lifetimes. But this computer is so highly endowed with creativity that each of the various personalities it programs spring into consciousness and song, and in turn create realities that may have been undreamed of by the computer itself. Within the personality, however, comes with a built-in idea of the reality in which it will operate, and its mental equipment is highly tailored to meet very specialized environments. It has full freedom, but it must operate within the context of existence to which it has been programmed. Within the personality, however, in the most secret recesses, is the condensed knowledge that resides in the computer as a whole. I must emphasize that I am not sating that the soul or entity is a computer, but only asking you to look at the matter in this light in order to make several points clear. Each such personality has within it the ability to not only gain a new type of existence in the environment - in your case physical reality - but to add creatively to the very quality of its own consciousness, and in doing so to work its way through the specialized system, breaking the barriers of reality as it knows it. Your environment is not real in the terms that you imagine it to be. When you are born, then, you are already conditioned to perceive reality in a certain manner, and to interpret experience in a very limited but intense range. I must explain this before I can clearly give you an idea of my environment, or of those other systems of reality in which I operate. There is no space between my environment and yours, for example no physical boundaries that separate us. In a very real way of speaking, you concept of reality as seen through your physical senses, scientific instruments, or arrived at through deduction, bears little resemblance to the facts - and the facts are difficult to explain. Your planetary systems exist and once, simultaneously, both in time and in space. The universe that you seem to perceive, either visually or through instruments, appears to be composed of galaxies, stars and planets, at various distances from you. Basically, however, this is an illusion. You senses and your very existence as physical creatures program you to perceive the universe in such a way. The universe as you know it is your interpretation of evens as the intrude upon your three-dimensional reality. The events are mental. This does not meat that you cannot travel to other planets for example, within that physical universe, any more than it means that you cannot use tables to hold books, glasses and oranges, although the table has no solid qualities of its own. When I enter your system, I move through a series of mental and psychic events. You would interpret these events as space and time. Root assumptions are those built-in ideas of reality of which I spoke - those agreements upon which you base your ideas of existence. Space and time, for example, are root assumptions. Each system of reality has its own set of such agreements. The entity, or the soul has a far more creative and complicated nature than even your religions have ever granted it. It utilized numberless methods of perception, and it has at its command many other kinds of consciousness. Your idea of the soul is indeed limited by your three dimensional concepts. The soul can change to focus of its consciousness, and uses consciousness as you use the eyes in your head. Now in my level of existence I am simply aware of the fact, strange as it may seem, that I am not y consciousness. My consciousness is an attribute to be used by me. Soul, or entity, then, is more than consciousness. When I enter your environment, I turn my consciousness in your direction, therefore. In one way, I translate what I am into an event that you can understand to some extent. In a much more limited manner, any artist does the same thing when he translates what he is, or a portion of it, into a painting. When I enter your system, I intrude into three-dimensional reality, and you must interpret what happens in the light of your own root assumptions. Now whether or not you realize it, each of you intrudes into other systems of reality in your dream states without the full participation of your normally conscious self. In subjective experience you leave behind physical existence and act, at times, with strong purpose and creative validity within dream that you forget the instant you awaken. When you think of the purpose of your existence, you think in terms of daily waking life, but you also work at your purpose in these other dream dimensions, and you are then in communication with other portions of your own entity, at work at endeavors quite as valid as those you are about in waking life. When I contact your reality, therefore, it is as if I were entering one of your dreams. I can be aware of myself as I dictate this book, and yet also be aware of myself in my own environment; for I send only a portion of myself here, as you perhaps send out a portion of your consciousness as you write a letter to a friend, and yet are aware of the room in which you sit. My environment, as I mentioned earlier, is not one of a personality decently dead in your terms. One large difference between your environment and mine is that you must physically materialize mental acts as physical matter. Remember also that is physical reality is in a larger sense an illusion, it is an illusion caused by a greater reality. The illusion itself has a purpose and a meaning. Perhaps it is better to say that physical reality is one form that reality takes. In your system, however, you are focused much more intensely upon one relatively small aspect of existence. We can travel freely through such varying numbers of such realities. I do not mean to minimize the importance of your present personalities, nor of physical existence. To the contrary. Three-dimensional experience is an invaluable place of training. Your personality as you now know it will indeed persevere, and with its memories, but it is only a part of your entire identity. You will continue to grow and develop, and you will become aware of other environments. But environments are not objective things, conglomerations of objects that exist independently of you. Instead you form them and they are quite literally extensions of yourself; materialized mental acts that extend outward from your consciousness. I will tell you exactly now you form your environment. I form mine following the same rules, though you end up with physical objects and I do not. The mind can influence matter. Mind creates and forms matter. Now your closest environment, physically speaking, is your body. It is not like some manikin-shape in which you are imprisoned, that exists apart from you like a casing. Your body is not beautiful or ugly, healthy or deformed, swift or slow simply because this is the kind of body that was thrust upon you indiscriminately at birth. Instead your physical form, your corporeal personal environment, is the physical materialization of your own thoughts, emotions and interpretations. Quite literally, the inner self forms the body by magically transforming thoughts and emotions into physical counterparts. You grow the body. Its condition perfectly mirrors your subjective state at any given time. Using atoms and molecules, you build your body, forming basic elements into a form that you call your own. You are intuitively aware that you form your image, and that you are independent of it. You do not realize that you create your larger environment and the physical world as you know it by propelling your thoughts and emotions into matter - a breakthrough into three-dimensional life. The inner self, therefore, individually and en masse, sends its psychic energy out, forming tentacles that coalesce into form. Each emotion and thought has its own electromagnetic reality, completely unique. It is highly equipped to combine with certain others, according to the various ranges of intensity that you may include. In a manner of speaking, three-dimensional objects are formed in somewhat the same way that you see on your television screen are formed, but with a large difference. And if you are not tuned into that particular frequency, you will not perceive the physical objects at all. Each of you acts as transformers, unconsciously, automatically transforming highly sophisticated electromagnetic units into physical objects. You are in the middle of a matter-concentrated system, surrounded, so to speak, by weaker areas in what you would call a pseudo-matter persists. Each thought and emotion spontaneously exists as a simple or complex electromagnetic unit - unperceived, incidentally, as yet by your scientists. The intensity determines both the strength and the permanency of the physical image into which the thought or emotion will be materialized. In my own material I am explaining this in depth. Here, I merely want you to understand that the world that you know is the reflection of an inner reality. You are made basically of the some ingredients as a chair, a stone, a head of lettuce, a bird. In a gigantic cooperative endeavor, all consciousness joins together to make the forms that you perceive. How because this is known to us, we can change our environments and our own physical forms as we wish, and without confusions, for we perceive the reality that lies underneath. We also realize that permanency of form is an illusion, since all consciousness must be in a state of change. We can be, in your terms, in several places at once because we realize the true mobility of consciousness. Now whenever you think emotionally of another person, you send out a counterpart of yourself, beneath the intensity of matter, but a definite form. This form, projecting outward from your own consciousness completely escapes your egotistical attention. When I think emotionally of someone else, I do the same thing, except that a portion of my consciousness is within the image, and can communicate. Environments are primarily mental creations of consciousness trust out into many forms. Now you do the same thing when you sit in your livingroom, but you do not realize what you are doing; and presently you are somewhat restricted. When my associates and I meet, we often translate each other's thoughts into various shapes and forms out of pure enjoyment in the practice. We have what you might call a game, demanding some expertise, where for our own amusement we see which of us can translate any given thought into the most numerous forms. There are such subtle qualities affecting the nature of all thought, such emotion gradations, that no one is ever identical, and incidentally no physical object in your system is an exact duplicate of any other. The atoms and molecules that compose it - any object - have their own identities that colour and qualify any object that they form. You accept and perceive and focus upon continuities and similarities as you perceive physical objects of any kind, and in a very important manner you shut out and ignore dissimilarities out of a given field of actuality. Therefore you are very highly discriminating, accepting certain qualities and ignoring others. Your bodies not only change completely every seven years, for example. They change constantly with each breath. Within the flesh, atoms and molecules constantly die and are replaced. The hormones are in a constant state of motion and alteration. Electromagnetic properties of skin and cell continually leap and change, and even reverse themselves. The physical matter that composed your body is different in important ways from the matter that forms your body in this instant. If you perceived the constant change within your body which as much persistence as you attend to its seemingly permanent nature, then you would be amazed that you ever considered the body as one more or less constant, more or less cohesive, entity. Even subjectively you focus upon and indeed manufacture the idea of a relatively stable, relatively permanent conscious self. You stress those ideas and thoughts and attitudes that you recall from past experience as your own, completely ignoring those that were once characteristic and now are vanished - ignoring the fact also that you cannot hold thought. The thought of a moment before, in your terms, vanishes away. You try to maintain a constant, relatively permanent physical and subjective self in order to maintain a relatively constant, relatively permanent environment. So you are always in a position of ignoring such change. Those that you refuse to acknowledge are precisely those that would give you a much better understanding of the true nature of reality, individual subjectivity, and the physical environment that seems to surround you. What happens to a thought when it leaves your conscious mind? It does not simply disappear. You can learn to follow it, but you are usually frightened of turning your attention away from its intense focus in three-dimensional existence. Therefore, it seems that the thought disappears. It seems also that your subjectivity has a mysterious unknown quality about it, and that even your mental life has a sort of insidious dropping-off point, a subjective cliff over which thoughts and memories fall, to disappear into nothingness. Therefore to protect yourself, to protect your subjectivity from drifting, you erect various psychological barriers at what you suppose to be the danger points. Instead, you see, you can follow these thoughts and emotions simply by realizing that your own reality continues in another direction, beside the one with which you mainly identify. For these thoughts and emotions that have left your conscious mind will lead you into other environments. These subjective openings through which thoughts seem to disappear are in fact like psychic warps, connecting the self that you know with other universes of experience - realities where symbols come to life and thoughts are not denied their potential. There is communication between these other realities and your own dream states, and a constant interaction between both systems. If there is any point where your own consciousness seems to elude you or escape you, or if there is any point where your consciousness seems to end, then these are points where you have yourselves set up psychological barriers, and these are precisely those areas that you should explore. Otherwise you feel as if your consciousness is enclosed within your skull, immobile and constricted, and every lost thought or forgotten memory at least symbolically seems like a small death. And such is not the case.

me i feel i havent, ive realized everything and nothingness but i havent been able to integrate it into my life so i feel im not at a spirtually mature level to be called "realized" i still think im human

Space as you perceive it simply does not exist. Not only is the illusion of space caused by your own physical perceptive mechanisms, but it is also caused by mental patterns that you have accepted - patterns that are adopted by consciousness when it reaches a certain stage of evolution within your system. When you arrive, or emerge, into physical life, not only is your mind not a blank slate, waiting for the scrolls that experience will write upon it, but you are already equipped with a memory bank far surpassing that of any computer. You face your first day upon the planet with skills and abilities already built in, thought they may or may not be used; and they are not merely the result of heredity as you think of it. You may think of your soul or entity as some conscious and living, divinely inspired computer who programs its own existences and lifetimes. But this computer is so highly endowed with creativity that each of the various personalities it programs spring into consciousness and song, and in turn create realities that may have been undreamed of by the computer itself. Within the personality, however, comes with a built-in idea of the reality in which it will operate, and its mental equipment is highly tailored to meet very specialized environments. It has full freedom, but it must operate within the context of existence to which it has been programmed. Within the personality, however, in the most secret recesses, is the condensed knowledge that resides in the computer as a whole. I must emphasize that I am not sating that the soul or entity is a computer, but only asking you to look at the matter in this light in order to make several points clear. Each such personality has within it the ability to not only gain a new type of existence in the environment - in your case physical reality - but to add creatively to the very quality of its own consciousness, and in doing so to work its way through the specialized system, breaking the barriers of reality as it knows it. Your environment is not real in the terms that you imagine it to be. When you are born, then, you are already conditioned to perceive reality in a certain manner, and to interpret experience in a very limited but intense range. I must explain this before I can clearly give you an idea of my environment, or of those other systems of reality in which I operate. There is no space between my environment and yours, for example no physical boundaries that separate us. In a very real way of speaking, you concept of reality as seen through your physical senses, scientific instruments, or arrived at through deduction, bears little resemblance to the facts - and the facts are difficult to explain. Your planetary systems exist and once, simultaneously, both in time and in space. The universe that you seem to perceive, either visually or through instruments, appears to be composed of galaxies, stars and planets, at various distances from you. Basically, however, this is an illusion. You senses and your very existence as physical creatures program you to perceive the universe in such a way. The universe as you know it is your interpretation of evens as the intrude upon your three-dimensional reality. The events are mental. This does not meat that you cannot travel to other planets for example, within that physical universe, any more than it means that you cannot use tables to hold books, glasses and oranges, although the table has no solid qualities of its own. When I enter your system, I move through a series of mental and psychic events. You would interpret these events as space and time. Root assumptions are those built-in ideas of reality of which I spoke - those agreements upon which you base your ideas of existence. Space and time, for example, are root assumptions. Each system of reality has its own set of such agreements. The entity, or the soul has a far more creative and complicated nature than even your religions have ever granted it. It utilized numberless methods of perception, and it has at its command many other kinds of consciousness. Your idea of the soul is indeed limited by your three dimensional concepts. The soul can change to focus of its consciousness, and uses consciousness as you use the eyes in your head. Now in my level of existence I am simply aware of the fact, strange as it may seem, that I am not y consciousness. My consciousness is an attribute to be used by me. Soul, or entity, then, is more than consciousness. When I enter your environment, I turn my consciousness in your direction, therefore. In one way, I translate what I am into an event that you can understand to some extent. In a much more limited manner, any artist does the same thing when he translates what he is, or a portion of it, into a painting. When I enter your system, I intrude into three-dimensional reality, and you must interpret what happens in the light of your own root assumptions. Now whether or not you realize it, each of you intrudes into other systems of reality in your dream states without the full participation of your normally conscious self. In subjective experience you leave behind physical existence and act, at times, with strong purpose and creative validity within dream that you forget the instant you awaken. When you think of the purpose of your existence, you think in terms of daily waking life, but you also work at your purpose in these other dream dimensions, and you are then in communication with other portions of your own entity, at work at endeavors quite as valid as those you are about in waking life. When I contact your reality, therefore, it is as if I were entering one of your dreams. I can be aware of myself as I dictate this book, and yet also be aware of myself in my own environment; for I send only a portion of myself here, as you perhaps send out a portion of your consciousness as you write a letter to a friend, and yet are aware of the room in which you sit. My environment, as I mentioned earlier, is not one of a personality decently dead in your terms. One large difference between your environment and mine is that you must physically materialize mental acts as physical matter. Remember also that is physical reality is in a larger sense an illusion, it is an illusion caused by a greater reality. The illusion itself has a purpose and a meaning. Perhaps it is better to say that physical reality is one form that reality takes. In your system, however, you are focused much more intensely upon one relatively small aspect of existence. We can travel freely through such varying numbers of such realities. I do not mean to minimize the importance of your present personalities, nor of physical existence. To the contrary. Three-dimensional experience is an invaluable place of training. Your personality as you now know it will indeed persevere, and with its memories, but it is only a part of your entire identity. You will continue to grow and develop, and you will become aware of other environments. But environments are not objective things, conglomerations of objects that exist independently of you. Instead you form them and they are quite literally extensions of yourself; materialized mental acts that extend outward from your consciousness. I will tell you exactly now you form your environment. I form mine following the same rules, though you end up with physical objects and I do not. The mind can influence matter. Mind creates and forms matter. Now your closest environment, physically speaking, is your body. It is not like some manikin-shape in which you are imprisoned, that exists apart from you like a casing. Your body is not beautiful or ugly, healthy or deformed, swift or slow simply because this is the kind of body that was thrust upon you indiscriminately at birth. Instead your physical form, your corporeal personal environment, is the physical materialization of your own thoughts, emotions and interpretations. Quite literally, the inner self forms the body by magically transforming thoughts and emotions into physical counterparts. You grow the body. Its condition perfectly mirrors your subjective state at any given time. Using atoms and molecules, you build your body, forming basic elements into a form that you call your own. You are intuitively aware that you form your image, and that you are independent of it. You do not realize that you create your larger environment and the physical world as you know it by propelling your thoughts and emotions into matter - a breakthrough into three-dimensional life. The inner self, therefore, individually and en masse, sends its psychic energy out, forming tentacles that coalesce into form. Each emotion and thought has its own electromagnetic reality, completely unique. It is highly equipped to combine with certain others, according to the various ranges of intensity that you may include. In a manner of speaking, three-dimensional objects are formed in somewhat the same way that you see on your television screen are formed, but with a large difference. And if you are not tuned into that particular frequency, you will not perceive the physical objects at all. Each of you acts as transformers, unconsciously, automatically transforming highly sophisticated electromagnetic units into physical objects. You are in the middle of a matter-concentrated system, surrounded, so to speak, by weaker areas in what you would call a pseudo-matter persists. Each thought and emotion spontaneously exists as a simple or complex electromagnetic unit - unperceived, incidentally, as yet by your scientists. The intensity determines both the strength and the permanency of the physical image into which the thought or emotion will be materialized. In my own material I am explaining this in depth. Here, I merely want you to understand that the world that you know is the reflection of an inner reality. You are made basically of the some ingredients as a chair, a stone, a head of lettuce, a bird. In a gigantic cooperative endeavor, all consciousness joins together to make the forms that you perceive. How because this is known to us, we can change our environments and our own physical forms as we wish, and without confusions, for we perceive the reality that lies underneath. We also realize that permanency of form is an illusion, since all consciousness must be in a state of change. We can be, in your terms, in several places at once because we realize the true mobility of consciousness. Now whenever you think emotionally of another person, you send out a counterpart of yourself, beneath the intensity of matter, but a definite form. This form, projecting outward from your own consciousness completely escapes your egotistical attention. When I think emotionally of someone else, I do the same thing, except that a portion of my consciousness is within the image, and can communicate. Environments are primarily mental creations of consciousness trust out into many forms. Now you do the same thing when you sit in your livingroom, but you do not realize what you are doing; and presently you are somewhat restricted. When my associates and I meet, we often translate each other's thoughts into various shapes and forms out of pure enjoyment in the practice. We have what you might call a game, demanding some expertise, where for our own amusement we see which of us can translate any given thought into the most numerous forms. There are such subtle qualities affecting the nature of all thought, such emotion gradations, that no one is ever identical, and incidentally no physical object in your system is an exact duplicate of any other. The atoms and molecules that compose it - any object - have their own identities that colour and qualify any object that they form. You accept and perceive and focus upon continuities and similarities as you perceive physical objects of any kind, and in a very important manner you shut out and ignore dissimilarities out of a given field of actuality. Therefore you are very highly discriminating, accepting certain qualities and ignoring others. Your bodies not only change completely every seven years, for example. They change constantly with each breath. Within the flesh, atoms and molecules constantly die and are replaced. The hormones are in a constant state of motion and alteration. Electromagnetic properties of skin and cell continually leap and change, and even reverse themselves. The physical matter that composed your body is different in important ways from the matter that forms your body in this instant. If you perceived the constant change within your body which as much persistence as you attend to its seemingly permanent nature, then you would be amazed that you ever considered the body as one more or less constant, more or less cohesive, entity. Even subjectively you focus upon and indeed manufacture the idea of a relatively stable, relatively permanent conscious self. You stress those ideas and thoughts and attitudes that you recall from past experience as your own, completely ignoring those that were once characteristic and now are vanished - ignoring the fact also that you cannot hold thought. The thought of a moment before, in your terms, vanishes away. You try to maintain a constant, relatively permanent physical and subjective self in order to maintain a relatively constant, relatively permanent environment. So you are always in a position of ignoring such change. Those that you refuse to acknowledge are precisely those that would give you a much better understanding of the true nature of reality, individual subjectivity, and the physical environment that seems to surround you. What happens to a thought when it leaves your conscious mind? It does not simply disappear. You can learn to follow it, but you are usually frightened of turning your attention away from its intense focus in three-dimensional existence. Therefore, it seems that the thought disappears. It seems also that your subjectivity has a mysterious unknown quality about it, and that even your mental life has a sort of insidious dropping-off point, a subjective cliff over which thoughts and memories fall, to disappear into nothingness. Therefore to protect yourself, to protect your subjectivity from drifting, you erect various psychological barriers at what you suppose to be the danger points. Instead, you see, you can follow these thoughts and emotions simply by realizing that your own reality continues in another direction, beside the one with which you mainly identify. For these thoughts and emotions that have left your conscious mind will lead you into other environments. These subjective openings through which thoughts seem to disappear are in fact like psychic warps, connecting the self that you know with other universes of experience - realities where symbols come to life and thoughts are not denied their potential. There is communication between these other realities and your own dream states, and a constant interaction between both systems. If there is any point where your own consciousness seems to elude you or escape you, or if there is any point where your consciousness seems to end, then these are points where you have yourselves set up psychological barriers, and these are precisely those areas that you should explore. Otherwise you feel as if your consciousness is enclosed within your skull, immobile and constricted, and every lost thought or forgotten memory at least symbolically seems like a small death. And such is not the case.

This is false. The One does not need human form to exist. When you are in deep sleep there is no human, only your mind rendering pure nothingness (in regards to the absence of the five senses).

@tsuki How are you going to register the existence then in the state of "nothingness"?

@Shin @Terell Kirby @Tyler Durden @BenG @Nahm Here is what my understanding, correct me if I am wrong. My language is going to be dual, just to relay my message! There is only one Thing in existence, and this thing is Consciousness which is coming from nothingness. Nothingness cannot be imagined since our mind still holds a notion about this abstract phenomenon. Existence and non-existence are properties of your mind. Non-existence is impossible by default. There is only existence. Consciousness is infinitely creating Reality by imagining Reality into Being. This act is a pure imagination. I know it, read a lot of times, had experience of becoming “nothingness”. I also had experience of being unconscious under anesthesia, I had a lot of lucid dreams. What I was talking about is the following. For anything to exist at all, this thing should be imagined. Even though imagination is a primal quality of Reality, this is a foundation for you to be here, even as a game’s character! You need a screen to even exist, a container to hold so-called “Reality”. What I am telling you, that existence is impossible beyond this imagination. When consciousness imagines Reality into Being with this body-mind bundle it explores itself via various experience. Seems like time-space-dimension are a must for the imagination to go on, but they are only concepts. Also, if you are imagining another Reality (where you can exist on a different level as consciousness, even in a resting state) on top of this reality, this is just another layer, which is unnecessary. Truth lies within the direct experience; it is here and now, the rest are just thoughts.