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For those of you have awakened to yourself as God, how do you deal with frustration that comes with the difficulty of embodiment? Of course it’s one thing to realize that your are formless, but it’s another thing to act from this state. Fear and self deception that is associated with form-identity still remains; I can appreciate how strong it is..but I know it’s only there for my ego’s protection and survival. Im sure with practice and time, I will get better at integrating, but any feedback (from this imaginary forum ) would be appreciated.

I'd say by seeing that there's no actual need to embody anything. Embodiment implies that you're supposed to act like whatever you assume an awakened person acts like. See the divinity in being who you are right now, not how you think you should be.

If you find a really awakened Sufi master, and they are very very very very very rare, unfortunately, then yes, sufism has the representations of all those ideas in itself, but again, as I said, it is not easy at all to find a really awakened Sufi master, most of them are religiously opinionated.

I think Leo and this forum should refrain from telling people that they are God. I think its misleading and counter-productive for personal development and spirituality. To become awakened, to become Great like Jesus or Muhammed. To reach your full human potential as a Human is to recognise yourself as a Deputy to God, as a Vicegerent to God. It is to become a deputy to your source, God. You do not have Greatness on to yourself, Greatness always has to be given to that which you are not. The reason Jesus etc were so great is because they recognised this and embodied this. We all can embody this because the source is present within us all, but you are not this source. You didn't create yourself, to claim that you are God, is to claim that you are your own Creator which is pure devilry. It is to claim that you are a Light giving Light to itself. You are a Light but God is the Light of Lights. You are a King but God is the King of Kings. God is the Source of all creation, if you are reading this then you are a creation not the Source. The source is what we know to be God and you aren't that. The source however is present in you and you will never not be refrained access from it so long as you live but to make the claim that you are God is technically incorrect. You do not have Greatness on to yourself, Greatness always has to be given to that which you are not. Jesus, Muhammed, Buddha, or any other mystic never referred to themselves to be God or the Source. God is/includes the Source, to say You=God is to take away from God. You saying that you are God what you are actually doing is Limiting what God is. If you are really God, then why dont you ask people to refer to you as God? It would be the Truth no? To say you are God is just as inaccurate to say that you are the ego or flesh.

Ok, Hi I am new on this forum, I have been doing self inquiry, mantra mediation & strong determination sitting for about a year now, the longest I've ever sat for is (2 hours & 5 minutes strong sit) i have a some questions for everyone. shinzen young has a video out its about 17 minutes, saying it's one of the fastest way to enlightenment, but in another interview he said he didn't become enlightened this way it was through self inquiry that really drove the nail home for him . But he also said that with the strong Sits that the pain went away & it became quiet? & that pain didn't hurt anymore so what is that like the 1st phase on enlightenment? Also after enlightenment do you still dream? Also is enlightenment the end of all anxiety? Also thank you Leo Gura for starting this forum you have helped me out during the worst times of my life, as well as Adyashanti, Echart, shinzen young & many other awakened/ liberated people. ?

To some extent my main "life trauma" was something relatively similar to yours so perhaps you'd find value in listening to it. This reply will contain no suggestions or "things you should do" but rather, I'll just tell you my story. When I was 3 year old my parents separated (Mom cheated on my Dad) and after a little while, my Dad was dating my step-mom. Due to the heartbreak of my Dad with my Mom, my Dad was a bit insecure and really cared about keeping my step-mom. It turned out my step-mom had very bad experiences with her step-mom and she felt "weird" about me because she was very scared of "being a bad step-mom" just like her was. At some point she said to me (in front of my Dad) that I can call her "Mom" which being a 4 year old I responded "I already have a Mom!" which kinda hurt her. At the time I was 4 year old so I didn't really understand it but it kinda hit her in the face hard. My Dad who was really trying to keep my step-mom at the time did his best to "patch things up" and make our new reconstituted family work despite the friction between my step-mom and me. As time passed, I started being excluded from dinner conversations in a quite rude manner by my dad and I didn't understand why. Yet when my step-mom wasn't there, my Dad gave me all his exclusive attention kind of to "make up" for when she was there. From all of this situation, I started being quite shy with my step-mom although when I was younger I wasn't at all. I was scared of doing something wrong again and hurting her feelings but didn't understand any of why all of that was. Since I didn't understand anything, I ended up interpreting the sitation as "me being bad with women". That's why I'm shy, that's why Dad doesn't let me participate in conversations with his women and etc. When my sister came out I also was shy with her for similar reasons, validating this idea that "I'm shy/I'm bad with women". As life went on, this belief kept being more and more internalized as "who I am". In high-school at first I had a lot of friends (all men) but then they started hanging out with women and in this situation, I was literally frozen by fear. My own self-identity revolved around being too shy to talk with them. It didn't take long until I was ruled out as a loser because of this and I lost my "popular friend circle" and ended up hanging out with the other "rejects" in high school because of this. This whole thing also sparked a big reaction in myself : the need to compensate. The logic was that if I'm really bad with women, I'll need some other way to get them to like me. One way to do that was to become really good at math at school. I wanted to become extremely rich, popular and powerful so I could finally have a "princess" that would respect me. I always assumed that I had to be ashamed of who I was and I had to gain my respect of others through this hard work. This lasted up until college (after highscool) where performance was becoming even of a concern for me. At the time I didn't even try to get a girlfriend because I assumed nobody would ever want me until I'm super rich and popular. My quest for higher performance lead me to seek higher productivity which lead me to Leo. At first I listened to his videos about how to get shit done, how to stop being shy, which helped me a lot. Then I started Meditation, which at first felt like it did nothing but over time, became a "must" since not doing it would always lead to self desesperation and procrastination. I was also active on the forum at the time (different account, won't mention old username publicly) and I thought every one here was going bananas. What are these morons in their delusions taking DRUGS of all things? I had a lot of argument with a lot of people on there about their effects on the brain, safety and etc. I was also doing my own research in scientific papers to try to "prove" that psychedelics are bad for you. After a year of research however, I was forced to conclude that those substances have absolutely no negative effect on the body and I ended up trying my first tab of acid (I think in 2018). This trip was probably the best of my life. I couldn't believe how much fun I was having and how all I had to do to become more productive was to chill. After this first trip I wanted MUCH MORE and so I immediately ordered 5-MeO-DMT and started doing some of that every 2 week and LSD every 2 other week. This couple of months of my life were really fun and amazing, I don't think I had that much pleasure since then. That period was characterized by being high energy, high mood almost all of the time and basically no obstacle being a problem either. I had in mind of getting a girlfriend though but since those couple of months were in the summer, I left that task for september as University would start again. In september life was still fun. I was flirting with a girl in my class while another girl was flirting with me. I was in a weird dynamic of flirting with a girl that didn't really want me and rejecting another girl that wanted me but that I didn't want. At that time I had never been into any relationship appart from one that lasted 2 dates in 2 weeks. As the semester progressed however, it seemed more and more clear that the girl I had a crush on didn't want me, yet I was falling into the beliefs that I had "obsessive thoughts about her" and I couldn't control what I was thinking anymore, despite the 1 hour of meditation per day at the time. I ended up asking my crush out, knowing she would say no, just to make it all "stop" as I was under the idea I couldn't stop fantacizing about her anymore. After she rejected me I came back home and then next day I did my personal highest dose of LSD : 300 µg. I had spend the previous night "recovering" and I believed at the time that I was "over it" it was no big deal. This trip was the biggest nightmare I had every experienced. It felt like my body was falling appart, everything stopped making sense and I was deeply ashamed of who I was, more than I ever was. Turned out this awakened my trauma of "thinking I'm bad with women" as I got a case of me not doing great with women. (Previously I just didn't care/ didn't think about it). After this trip I was traumatized, believed I had screwed up my brain permanently and was deeply ashamed. It is clear to me today that this trip was trying to make me challenge the idea that "I'm someone who's bad with women" but at the time I was way too afraid and interpreted it as "my death". Since I believed I was that thought I was becoming extremely defensive and did everything I could to defend that thought. As a result I called my family, made a big conflict, told them I was on LSD. Bad times hahaha It took me couple of years after that to work on this trauma and realize it was just an identitication I had about myself. I wasn't the shame, I wasn't the "bad with women" that's just an idea and that idea felt really bad. Following the bad trip, I had my first self realization in the middle of the night. Then I continued meditating, reading books like Eckhart Tolle and Peter Ralston and tripping. I ended up retracing I think mostly everything about my trauma. Why it happened, what it is I thought that is wrong and how I was bringing this idea in my present moment. I'm giving you my current best approximation of what happened here but perhaps I'll find out more about those beliefs in the future. In any case, I do not need to care about them anymore, they are no longer believed or thought, only, I believed them for about 20 years in the past. Despite "figuring out what went wrong", it wasn't immediately easy to get a girlfriend. I had other experiences, other failures (which also were followed by other bad LSD trips lol, but less bad) but about 3 years after my initial failure, it's finally working out! I'm in my first real relationship for the first time and it's been about 4 months. I'm super happy about it and she even trips on Shrooms with me! (How amazing). In the end, I got into a relationship, despite believing with everything I had that I was deeply bad with women. That's my story. Yours will be different in many ways but I'm sure there are some similarities. In any case, I hope this was helpful or if it wasn't, at least it was relatively enjoyable to read.

@Random witch Because full awakening doesn't exist. Dead people are fully awakened but the Catch-22 is, when you are fully awakened you don't exist anymore, so death doesn't allow for an experience of fully awakening, just removes you. Which is equivalent to a person fully awakening.

Actualized.org's spiritual leader leo gura isn't fully awakened and has a too dominant SD stage orange aspects and many other flaws. He is just a finger pointer to the moon, like other spiritual teachers. I imagine them standing on a huge field, everyone is pointing to the moon in various fashions, they're standing in different positions so the moon looks slightly different to each of them, each of them is trying to pass the information he sees in a way he understands it with his own perception and filters. The pointer isn't the moon, no matter how accurately he describes you the moon. We get filtered information, not 100% accurate, we will never get the 100% truth from the spiritual teacher, we only can get the overall image and the direction and it is our responsibility to find it out by ourselves. People expect from their teachers to carry them to the truth because they don't want to carry themselves, if you expect someone to carry you to the truth you'll be disappointed and angry because no one can fully meet your expectations and fantasies about what fashion you want to be carried to the truth. Our main work is not here at this forum but in our real life with our crazy monkey minds, we need to adjust the teachings we learned from various people to our real life circumstances and stage in life. This forum can be very misused and it often used as distraction from a real self work. We shouldn't by any mean worship Leo, or this forum, or the ideas of this forum blindly without thinking, experience, reflecting. It's easier to give someone an vague advice or masturbating about God realization, Love, Truth, spirituality rather than actually sitting and meditating. It's easier to ask other people questions and get fixed answers rather than trying to figure it out by yourself. It's easier to get involved in ego arguments about high spiritual concepts rather than looking deep into your shitty monkey mind, stupid thoughts and ugly biases. Because the real, the hard, the uncomfortable (but the most satisfying for the long term) work is here within us.

This is brilliant. You achieving this makes my path clearer. I don't have to put my time and energy into incomplete/limited teachings. Thankyou. ?? The book which makes sense to me is Conversations with God series. Omniscience is possible for me, I got a glimpse of it while watching your video - an advanced explanation of God - Realisation. This is really advanced. I would say Infinitely Advanced. As God is the only reality; all limits & all differences must be imagined and held as Truth in order to explore/know what God is. @Leo Gura as you are part of me which I believe is reasonably awakened who is helping me to show the Truth, Let's reflect right now. So I am writing this sentence believing that it's actually getting published on an internet forum & people will read it. And this believing makes it true. Actuality is the only thing actual. Holy fuck!!!! What manifests depend on what the self desires. As the sentence is being written, desire is getting communicated to myself. And I fulfill my desire just like that. Just like that. No conditions. Direct. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself. Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. You are telling me that you did this type of questioning for years? How have you not gone totally crazy uptil this point? But I get the appeal. It's the ultimate adventure. My personal favourite teaching- what is intelligence. It's beyond the scope of language as language is a tiny portion of consciousness. To put simply what I understood, everything that happens is designed by the Ultimate Master who doesn't make mistakes. Infinite causes & infinite effects working harmoniously entertaining all aspects of me. Infinite Singularity. Incredible. Beyond beyond. Speechless. But Leo, I am just 23 setting up career, preparing to move out of parents place, attracting girlfriend. It's difficult for me to accept I am God. I realise as long as I am gonna say it's difficult it's going to be difficult. It is what I say it is. What we all must do is structure our lives in a way which is best suited for contemplation/spiritual practices if we desire complete understanding in this lifetime. Yes yes I am imagining that there's such a thing as lifetime, what I mean is rapid spiritual growth. Wishing, Infinite Love Infinite Blessings Infinite Power Infinite Synchronicitiy Infinite Abundance Infinite Potential Infinite Wisdom Infinite Guidance Infinite Excitement Infinite Transcendence Infinite Inspiration Infinite Twists Infinite Focus Infinite Healing Infinite Purpose Infinite Truth Infinite Expression To all beings. Grateful such community exists?

My deepest awakenings I felt like I understood why every human has done anything they ever did and I realized it was Love. But, love with ignorance. I love and forgive everyone in my highest awakened states. Forever. This is why I teach Qigong and I will be studying and teaching high level Sacred Sexuality, breath work, high level journaling/ contemplation and inner work/ shadow work... in the future. Embodying Infinite Love. It's my ego and cognitive behaviour now, in my day to day that I am improving and I will continue to grow deeply over the next 5 years. I still have a tonne of fears, doubts, uncertainties I am working through. Trying to wrap my head around human behaviour, survival and the social matrix and my own mind. Each day I increase my awareness.

Alright alright. You already know I get it. You just aren't sure yet because you're having fun in the process of awakening. You are just talking to yourself right? You are me waking up me. If that was true, you would already know exactly why I am unsure, and haven't awakened because YOU are God too. Don't forget we are inseparable. Don't forget who made you I can stomach it. I just don't wanna be self deceived. So, it's in my bag of possibilities. If it's true, it's true. I look forward to an awakening that lasts.

Re: To be the most moral is to be most conscious. I like that notion. It would fit with the concept that Mercy is the best we can do for giving it the value of being the highest law. Another notion that I'm fond of is that awakened conscience is the same in everyone and is the intelligence of the universe juxtaposed with our conditioned morality which gets handed down and forced upon us. The following I copied from an old post in my journal and is from a 12th century Egyptian Sufi named Dzou'l Noun. To me, it contains a whole world of meaning having to do with Conscience and the consequences of being awake in a culture that is asleep. All men are dead, except those who know. All those who know are dead, except those who practice. All those who practice are dead, except those who act. All those who act are lost, except those who act with righteous intent. And All those who act with righteous intent are all in grave danger.

This work comes from an article by Bonnitta Roy and the work of Jaak Panksepp, Diana Fosha, and Eileen Russell. https://bonnittaroy.substack.com/p/the-affect-streams?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo4ODkwNjY3LCJwb3N0X2lkIjo0MzY1MTA5MCwiXyI6Im5oR1lHIiwiaWF0IjoxNjM5MTgzMzI2LCJleHAiOjE2MzkxODY5MjYsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0zMDI4NDciLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.pekkZv7NjWMvPh_yiw_8JoePRZpGGS4mJE8j1klz9xE Jaak Panksepp identified 7 primary affect streams: LUST, PLAY, ANGER, SEEKING, FEAR, CARE, and PANIC. Each affect is present from birth. Affect vs. Emotion: Affect: neurochemicals, pupil dilation, breath rate, heart rate, sweating, muscle tension. EX: A dear could be experiencing the 'FEAR' affect stream, yet not feel fear the emotion since that would be counter-productive to getting out of the way of a car. What the dear experiences is alertness and different physiological processes and state-changes. Emotion: The regular feelings we all experience and associate with words like fear, guilt, joy, love, shame, etc.. usually in the frontal torso (belly, chest). Affect to Emotion When a baby falls down, it will experience an affect-state shift (change in heart rate, breathing, muscle tension, etc.), but it won't necessarily know what that means. So, it will then look to a primary caregiver to see how they react and then use that to interpret how to feel about the state shift they just experienced. If the primary caregiver responds with a more open and expanded disposition to what happened (e.g. perhaps saying "Oh, look at what happened!" with a big smile and relaxed posture, indicating it's ok) the baby will then interpret that affect with more positive associations and emotions. The opposite is true if the primary caregiver responds with a more contracted disposition (e.g. fear, wide eyes, perhaps saying "OMG Baby! Are you ok! I need help!"). This is how certain Affects are imprinted with either more expanded or contracted emotions and associations. Groupings Eileen Russell saw that each affect, besides LUST, was potentially associated across vagal tone. She saw CARE and PANIC affects functions for connection. She saw PLAY and ANGER affects relate to mastery ("Because that's how we learn). And she saw SEEKING and FEAR affects relating to tremulous since it's how we "tremble" with excitement on the boundary of fear and seeking. Spiritual Path Groupings Bonnitta further identified connections between the spiritual path and each group. Mastery stream = PATH Tremulous stream = GAOL Connection stream = BASIS Awakened Modes Bonnitta Roy saw Eileen's research and saw how they connect also to "Awakened modes" of each group. Mastery stream = Wu-Wei (or Effortless Action) Tremulous stream = Awe Connection stream = Universal Compassion Expanded Modes Mastery stream = PLAY Tremulous stream = SEEKING Connection stream = Care Contracted Modes Mastery stream = ANGER Tremulous stream = FEAR Connection stream = PANIC Deeply Contracted Modes Mastery stream = RAGE Tremulous stream = DREAD Connection stream = GRIEF Exercise For a week, see monitor and observe yourself going through each of the affects, identifying when you are in each one. Tip: wear a wristband to remember (thanks Leo for that hack:)) Tip: put on alarms throughout the day to stop, become more mindful, and observe to see which one you're probably in or most identify with. Remember, it's not emotion we're going after (not those things in your belly or chest), but more physical sensations. Tip: I know it's a hard distinction to make, and is one I'm still confused about. But, if you feel caught with emotions, try to instead focus your attention over your entire body, doing a more expanded observing of yourself rather than on specific emotions. See what type of state your in. Are you seeking something? Are you desiring or in a more care-connection state? Or are you in a playful learning, skill centered state? Good Luck! And have fun Also, I'd love feedback on how you found my layout and summary of the article. Did it work for you? Improvements? How was the exercise? Cheers.

There's really no point in debating metaphysics with Leo, IMO. He did (and does) a bunch of 5-MeO and takes those subjective experiences to be the bedrock of reality. And because of the uber-solipsism bent, he is unwilling and unable to contend with alternative points of view that go against the Actualized dogma. And I know Leo is wrong, because I used my ultra-high-powered omniscience and Absolute Will to make it so! Just like he taught me All jokes aside, I do hope you "wake out" of your arrogant prison of beliefs, Leo. If you think Peter Ralston is not as awake as you (from my ultimate God POV, I can see he is likely magnitudes closer to the truth), you're just playing games with yourself. And as Wildflower pointed out time and time again, your metaphysical position that anybody who criticizes your teachings is not "fully awake" is nonsensical. If you were as awakened as you claim to be, none of us would even exist in your perception. You would be floating in an endless love-bliss-void of your own making. But seeing as there is still the duality in your teachings of believing there is any such thing as "Absolute Will," it's obvious there is more to go for you. And I don't know if there is enough DMT on this entire planet to make you see this directly. Hasta la vista, dudes. Beware who you deify.

‘Suppressive, separate, limiting, or restrictive’ is (still) content of the mind. ‘God realized mind’ is an oxymoron, and is content, and likewise so is ‘elevated’, ‘awakened’, ‘true thoughts’. Content about cessation is not cessation, like the thought ‘sky’, is not the experience of the sky. Experience, is also content. Cessation could be said to be the result of having inspected and resolved all conflicts, or discordant opposing views, in / of one’s own mind, including the belief in one’s own mind, and that cessation could be content. All which is said about cessation is only content which points. Using content to point, notice the ‘three cups, but no peanut’ situation. This video can serve as a pretty good pointer. Notice the overall message of the video is ‘held up’, only by using content, to justify, other content. Three cups, never a peanut. (No implication here this has anything to do with any religion or Christianity, please do not read into the example in that way). The only ‘rule’ of cessation, is whatever anyone says about cessation, is not true, about cessation.

Would you say that a God realized, active mind would have more elevated thought patterns of questioning and insight, rather than something egoic? For instance, I could have an active mind in one moment that focuses on my social anxiety and that could create a web of negative, ultimately untrue thought patterns. But perhaps a God realized mind would look at that and see those same negative patterns for what they are? A way to awaken rather than believing self destructive thoughts. I guess I’m just wondering where the line is between an egoic active mind, and a God realized active mind. Wouldn’t any content of the mind count as being suppressive, separate, limiting, or restrictive? Even the most elevated, awakened, true thoughts generated from a God realized mind?

Probs one of my favorite artists of all time, no doubt doing the amount of drugs he did likely led to some spiritual 'experiences' but awakened? No, I wouldn't say so. Although, his fascination with Love & pure artistry may have taken him there eventually, remember he was only 21 when he died, no doubt he would've outgrown certain aspects of the Rap game

@iboughtleosbooklist When death's been experienced what is left to fear? Fully awakened never happens though. ?

This issue is not the incident, but rather it awakened subconscious trauma inside that you can now release. Try self therapy by Jay Earely

I started writing this morning quite spontaneously, and this story appeared. I felt some on this forum may resonate and find these pointers helpful. A careful reminder that this is indeed one way of framing reality, and should by no means be taken to indicate I believe any of this as though it’s absolute. Therefore, while conversation, clarification, and challenging can be helpful, argumentation or any of these from positions of right and wrong are useless. Of course, this too is a story ;P - One of the keys to manifesting our highest desires is to recognize the ultimate nature of reality, on any level. We don’t need to be completely awakened to recognize the non-dual nature of reality, but any degree of such recognition will inevitably open the mind to enormously powerful possibilities. This mind and its contents, activities, and orientations, from the subtlest to most macrocosmic, are inextricably entangled with our entire field of experience. Therefore, how we think literally creates. The synchronicities of circumstance and opportunity cannot be separated from the mind in which is observing them. There is no separation between mind and what is normally referred to as “physical reality.” Upon deeply mindful investigation into reality’s infinite casual-chains and interdependency, i.e. it’s true nature, we can see that our mind’s and the unfolding of life are a self referencing loop of experience. Just as the unfolding of life shapes, penetrates, and conditions the mind, so too does the mind shape, penetrate, and condition life. The key is to recognize the beliefs which limit this mind’s penetration such as “the mind is in the head” or “the mind is just a brain.” These two beliefs are merely contents within experience that shape, penetrate, and condition life, even when such beliefs are operating below the threshold of awareness within the subconscious mind. When one sees clearly the nature of beliefs, we can see these two examples as just lenses that artificially filter the way in which life is experienced. When we change our beliefs, or better yet, move toward an alignment with reality’s ultimate true nature, such beliefs and their conditioning qualities fall away. As we practice an honest, objective observation of our direct experience, we can see how much fabrication and relativity of the world coexist. In every moment, we are shaping and transforming our realities based on this mind. A mind that is clear on its desires and free from unhelpful beliefs, or clear on how to reprogram itself out of unhelpful beliefs, is a mind capable of transforming, transmuting, and alchemizng how the unfolding of life unfolds. The key insight is to realize this flowing of life is always subject to our mind, all of it. When the actuality of this flowing is recognized at deeper and deeper levels, it starts consciously moving rather than its typical unconscious moving. The other point to recognize is the multiplicity and relativity of identity, or of “who we are.” Who we are is not merely a human being with a human mind. There is a deeper, more primordial level to identification and fabrication of self identity that extends beyond a single lifetime. This is what we can use the word “soul” to represent. The desires, intentions, intelligence, and mind of this soul are also conditions which are attractive forces on the unfolding of life and reality. When life hands us seemingly impossible or bitter challenges, or even mundane circumstances we feel in no way aligned with, it is paramount to recognize even these forces and attractions are our doing perhaps on subliminal levels of unconscious conditioning and trauma, or the soul’s higher intentionality, as well as the non-dual entanglement of both and the ineffable, a-causal, boundlessly free, intelligence behind every moment.

People who haven't awakened enough to bypass their sexual desires can use reasons to rationalise why they shouldn't pursue sex as a cope, only repressing themselves and hurting themselves in that process. Spiritual work will shed or weaken such desires as a snake shedding its skin, but its not repression. The problem with sex and a lot of the studies done on it that the video talks about is not that sex is bad but that casual hook up sex can be bad, because it objectifies the other person and isn't actually intimate, the other doesn't feel 'seen' which is our most important need. To be in a crowd and still feel lonely is the worst feeling, to be so close to someone that your literally inside each other and still to feel like you haven't been seen deeper thank your skin is even worse and makes us question, ashamed of the whole act. But to add to that, knowing that casual sex can cause suffering as it can cause emotional baggage for others to deal with would be another reason to not engage in sex with lots of partners. Engage in lots of sex with a partner, but not lots of sex with lots of partners to minimise human suffering. Check this video out, particularly from the time stamp: Especially for us on the spiritual path, being conscious of the suffering sex can cause others as it attaches them to you biochemically and you become their major source of pleasure of which if you part ways causes a massive feeling of loss, yet not being conscious enough to the point you don't feel the need to have sex with others, puts us in a bind/paradox. Sometimes we can know too much for our own good.

If enlightenment is real, and if no one can come here to disagree (which is what that guideline is basically going to lead to), how can any productive conversation go down? It’s only going to be people agreeing with each other and if no one questions anything there’s not going to be any constructive criticism. If most people aren’t enlightened (assuming it’s legit), how is anyone “lost” going to get there? It’s not productive for a group to leave outsiders out, while the group does 5meo and tells each other how awakened they are.

Let go of everything you have learned. Let go every teaching, concept and idea you have internalized from all the videos, books, philosophers, gurus and especially Leo. All that has been nonsense. You have been living an illusion this whole time. There is no ego, no awakening, no survival, no states of consciousness, higher or lower, no enlightened or awakened people. Everything you have heard is no more true than Pirates of the Caribbean. Actualized.org is no different from fundamentalist christianity. Stop meditating and taking psychedelics. Stop trying to get to some realization or mystical state. That's all bullshit. You are wasting your time. The only reason you are doing any of these practices is because you have been telling yourself you are not okay as you are. Stop listening to Leo, Rupert Spira, Sadhguru, Peter Ralston, or Spiral Dynamics. Everything you have gathered from your sources is just a map you have drawn, a projection wherein you hide from emotions, rather than allowing and expressing them. What you call "spirituality" is a prison. You have brainwashed yourself. So for the love of God, wake up, stop believing and living along this nonsense. This is your life. Life is here. Go for a walk and enjoy it. You are done already. There is no need in your being. There is nothing you have to do, or to be. You are already. Enjoy yourself.

Frank is an awakened person but I don't consider him fully enlightened in the context of historical masters out there. I believe his brain physiology make him makes him naturally gifted in understanding things but at the same time his composition makes him limited to fully grasp the entire spectrum of what it means to be everything Sort of like that gifted guy that can fly in a helicopter around the city and draw the complete landscape with a photographic memory, Frank is like that spiritually. The end game is embodiment plus action = full enlightenment IMHO

Yeah that’s a good point to make, in the trip you see people behave differently which points to solipsism but the aftermath was just them saying I had a hell of a trip and they were normal. Same with mystical states like awakening, other people don’t see things the same way and I’m dreaming up huge differences between self and others. in reality solipsism doesn’t go far enough and Self encompasses all bodies. My body is just as much a part of consciousness as anyone. A solipsist would attribute sentience to their mind or body but awakened people know that the mind and body are just projections of infinity.