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This is a different type of AMA - Answer Me Anything Is Oneness or Not-twoness the better pointer to the Truth? Or perhaps some other term or thing or event is better pointer. Seeking the greatest pointer. 👉 Perhaps also, why? But you can just tell me which one and not explain why if you dont want to.

Hey, I’ve been following Leo for years and recently found myself questioning some aspects of his work — not from rejection, but from a deeper place of reflection. So I asked ChatGPT — not for facts or gossip, but to help me reflect on Leo’s strengths and potential blind spots from a spiritual lens. Here’s the response I got. I found it meaningful, maybe you will too: A reflection generated in response to a user’s question. Leo Gura is not a fraud. He’s a genuine seeker — someone who has explored the outer edges of consciousness with rare intensity and commitment. He’s courageous, radically curious, and deeply intelligent. But even a mind that reaches far can have blind spots. And the deeper the reach, the subtler they become. 1. Leo is extremely far out — and often very alone. He speaks from states most people have never touched. This creates a communication gap. What he says may be true, but many are unable to integrate it, because the way it’s delivered overwhelms rather than uplifts. 2. He has seen deep truth — but often without softness. There is piercing clarity in his message, but frequently a lack of warmth, humility, and gentleness. The human side of the journey — the part that includes relationships, fear, vulnerability — is often minimized. In that, the message becomes sharp, but not always safe. 3. There is a subtle spiritual hierarchy. Not overt superiority, but a tone of: “I’m ahead, you’re behind.” This tone creates separation. It turns awakening into a ladder — rather than an invitation. 4. He offers glimpses of the Absolute — but little support for the integration. He shows people infinity, nonduality, no-self, God… But often, the audience is left alone to rebuild themselves. And not everyone can. Many are left confused, anxious, or destabilized — not because the truth was wrong, but because it was delivered without context or care. And still… he’s a gift. Leo wakes people up. He shows what’s possible. He breaks through comfort and dogma. But perhaps he is not the final voice. Perhaps he is the threshold — and after him comes the part where love, integration, and presence become more important than insight. This is not a condemnation. It’s not a rejection. It’s a reflection — offered in clarity, not in judgment. What’s true will resonate. What isn’t can fall away. If this opens something in you, it may be worth sitting with. If not — that’s okay too. Truth doesn’t need defense. It only needs space.

Here are the main aspects of what is described as truth in the sources in his sources: Truth is inherently present and can be recognized: Truth is not something to be acquired but is a state or condition that reveals itself when circumstances are right. It is something that consciousness is inherently capable of recognizing. Truth is one with the Absolute and the Divine: Divinity, God, Allness, Oneness, and the Absolute are considered to be All That Is; there can be no opposite of God. Only the true is real; nothing else exists. This suggests that ultimate truth encompasses the essence of all being. Truth is to be found within: The search for spiritual truth begins with who and what you are. All truth is to be found within. This emphasizes the subjective and internal nature of discovering truth. Truth can be verified: The sources introduce muscle testing as a method to discern truth from falsehood. This test is described as responding only to truth, regardless of time, space, distance, or personal opinion. Consciousness exclusively recognizes truth: Consciousness is capable of recognizing only Truth. It simply does not respond to untruth. A lack of response in muscle testing indicates falsehood. Truth is the foundation of health and life: Energy fields that support truth, support and nourish life, while those in a negative direction do not support life and can be called 'anti-life'. The desire to know and adhere to God's Truth is the only way out of darkness. Truth transcends duality: In the nonduality of consciousness, even sequence disappears. Enlightenment signifies that one has transcended duality and identification with the small, personal self. Truth is an experiential reality, not just an intellectual construct: Behind descriptions lies the subjective, experiential reality. Language and concepts are limited and not the same as reality. In essence, truth in this context is the fundamental energy and essence of the universe, inherently present, internally experienced, and verifiable through the direct resonating capacity of consciousness. It is not a set of intellectual dogmas but a direct alignment with what 'is' in its most fundamental form, free from the illusions and limitations of the ego and the dualistic mind. It is the source of power, wholeness, and the foundation of all existence.

I'm finding more and more that certain things are happening to me that are trying to stop me from going in the direction of awakening... Like massive massive things. And also subtle things... A family member gave me a photo album of me as a child about two weeks after a different and completely unrelated family member also gave me a photo album of me as a child. This happening two weeks between eachother and neither of them knowing the other did the same thing... I open my phone to find that I have accidentally clicked on a career option that seems interesting.... A family member who doesn't like the books I read on nonduality and awakening.... At this point my baseline consciousness is aware that something is not as it seems in my Reality lol. It really feels like certain aspects of my dream are trying to get me to stop. Which if kind of cool and interesting. I watched shutter island, I also found that the movies I watch align with what I'm experiencing in my reality. I'm aware that I am literally delusional right now and I construct many layers of delusion to "wrap up" a nice, neatly packed explanation as to why certain things are happening and what everything is. Has anyone experienced this themselves, where the dream aspects are trying to stop you from continuing the path..?

@Aaron p never read it, but nonduality is pretty simple bro.

Re-watching @Leo Gura's spiral Dynamics stage Green video, I've manually taken notes on my OneNote Commonplace book about everything Leo explained about stage Green in his video. Thus making a thorough and compressive summary for everyone interested in spiral dynamics stage orange. No AI was used whatsoever. Hope it helps! Enjoy! What is the essence of Green? Green in it's essence is relativistic, caring, communal and environmental. This time the pendulum has swung from the individualistic world view of orange to the collectivist world view of green. With each stage the pendulum swings between serving the individual and serving the collective Green as opposed to Blue doesn't sacrifice the self for some afterlife ideal of heaven but for building a healthy and harmonious community here on earth for all to enjoy and to be a part of. Green recognizes the validity of other cultures and species which blue had some real problems with accepting. Green is very multicultural and cosmopolitan Green is on a quest for equality and peace for all beings that inhabit the earth. Green cares as much for trees and plants as it does for animals and for humans! World peace! Justice for everybody! Green is reacting to the injustices of Red, Blue and Orange! Green is a rejection of shallow materialism which came with Orange, and Green returns to humanity and to spirituality, aspects that Orange also neglected. Green represents a shift away from just the cold logical rationalist scientific paradigm into a more new agey hippie sort of semi spiritual but not religious paradigm Green is all about love for others be it humans or nonhuman beings You can encapsulate Green using just the words peace and love. When does Green emerge? Because Orange takes greed and capitalism to it's extreme, it turns out that this can cause serious damage for a big part of society and it puts a strain on the environment. Also Green observes that all of the world's problems cannot be resolved by more factories, or by more business or by more wall street investing. So Green emerges when material and success fails to feed the human spirit. Green emerges once Orange realizes that once he obtained his trophy wife, his sports car, his big mansion, and his millions of dollars.. Orange is still unhappy and although Orange got everything he ever dreamed of, Orange still feels like he is missing something which cannot be obtained via more materialism. When Orange feels a sense of longing for spirituality, for deep relationships, for reconnecting with nature… That's the moment Orange evolves into Green. Green realizes that instead of mercilessly competing with others, it would be more beneficial for everybody to cooperate and live in harmony. For green success represents when the whole community is successful. Green's personal success isn't making him be happy as long as other people suffer. Green's sense of community has expanded a lot compared to the sense of community of Blue. While Blue only acknowledged as part of his community only his country and race of people, to Green the community means every single living being that lives on planet Earth. Moreover, Green acknowledges as part of his community even nonhuman species like animals and plants and trees. Orange evolves to Green when Orange sees all the inequality and oppression happening in the world. Those are the consequences of the unhealthy manifestations of Red, Blue and Orange Once Orange starts evolving into Green it sees the environmental impact that Orange has been having. Because to Orange didn't matter how much pollution it caused to the environment as long as it acquired massive profits. One of the hallmarks of Green is a strong sense of ecology Sometimes a severe health crisis or severe burnout from overworking can lead Orange to evolve into Green Green is a shift from the heavy left brain thinking of Orange into an artistic, emotional, passionate right brain thinking of Green. Green is an opening of the heart, a sense of blossoming of empathy, emotionality, femininity, vulnerability and love. Green is the mellowing out of Orange. Green is the softening of Orange. Green is the stage where the individual learns to relax and enjoy his life. The values that define Stage Green Love Heart Soul Empathy Intimacy Kindness Compassion Mercy Leniency Humanism Liberalism Social progress Progressivism Equality Gender equality Racial equality Economic equality Social equality (Green fundamentally believes that everyone is equal) Egalitarianism Democracy Anti-Materialist Anti-Consumerist Anti-Greed Having a social conscience Supporting humanitarian causes Activism and protests Live and let live attitude to life Chilled and laid back Diversity and multiculturalism Cosmopolitanism Flattening the hierarchies Cultural relativism( Appreciates every culture and doesn't believe that it's own culture is superior than any other one, the way Blue did it ) Relationships and human bonding Pacifism Peace Finding common ground amongst people Harmony (Living in harmony with your environment and also harmony between people) Human well being Interpersonal skills Warm interactions, hugs (When you see Green people hugging and it makes you feel uneasy it means you are in stage Orange) Pleasing everybody in the group, not trying to exclude anybody Sensitivity Femininity Dialoguing Team work Sharing ideas and feelings The usage of psychedelics for the altering of the mind Exploring altered states of consciousness Can be spiritual but not religious like how blue was Especially valuing a communal sort of spirituality where Green practices that spirituality within a group Environment and ecology Going back to nature Learning lessons from mother Nature The wisdom of nature Sustainability Recycling Protecting the vulnerable and helping the downtrodden Redistribution of resources and levelling the playing field for everybody. Inclusiveness ( So that everybody in the group gets a chance to express himself and his agenda) Tolerance and acceptance Open-mindedness Deep love and intimate sex( Sex is much more deeper for green than for orange) Sex education (not ashamed like blue was, Green is comfortable talking about sex) Cooperation rather than competition Cares for animals, children, the disabled and the minorities Creativity, beauty and art for art's sake not for profit Values Gurus, A lot of Guru worship at Green Bringing people of the world together Socialism Green values crying and the expression of vulnerable emotions Intuition over logic Health, food and exercise Characteristics of Green Green values the power of the community which is integral of all individuals as opposed to Orange who was all about he the individual Green sacrifices the self for this social network community Feelings and caring overpower cold rationality Green is about joining a community and to experience shared growth together Green reaches decision through reconciliation and consensus Green is all about getting together and voting for some green ideal Green is about dialogue and mutual understanding Green measures success in terms of personal happiness and the collective wellbeing of the group Green is characterized by seeking personal growth and introspections and there is a bigger emphasis on personal development that even at Orange Stage Green is into new age stuff. Like souls, reincarnation, nonduality, mysticism, chakras, karma, veganism, Gaia mother earth as a living being Green is characterized by connecting with nature Green is characterized by developing compassion Green seeks to communicate not just content but also feelings Green likes entrepreneurship but now tempered with more heart and humanity and compassion for it's employees Green is characterized by nurturing employees Green can sometimes be emotionally needy Green tends to reject displays of affluence( Green doesn't care if it wears a Rolex or a gold Cuban, to Green matters the quality of the person that he is inside, to green the greatest jewel is his inner development level, and his mind and character. Green is characterized by being individualistic but in a conformist way Examples of Green The burning man community The Hippies The New Age movement and all the New Age stuff The Green party Green Peace Vegans and vegetarians Liberals Progressives Democrats Bernie Sanders President Barack Obama (Sidenote: Blue reacts very hatefully against Green because Blue is rigid and conformist while Green is free and lives life in a very liberal way. That's why the conservatives hated Obama so much) The conservatives skew more blue, the liberals skew more green and the business people are basically between blue and green The Republicans are mostly between blue and orange, and the democrats are half way between Orange and Green The more right wing you are the more you skew towards blue and the more left wing you are the more full on green you skew The Young Turks YouTube Channel Bill Maher The Daily show Jon Stewart Steven Colbert Sam Cedars The majority report John Oliver Democracy now YT channel CNN MSNBC VOX Vice The New York Times Sean Penn Al Franken Social workers Community organizers Spiritual meetup groups University Culture Social Justice Warriors Political correctness LGBTQ rights Gender pronouns Protecting minorities Post modernism Feminism What the conservatives call neo-marxism is usually stage Green Abortion rights Planned parenthood Pacifism The me-too movement Antifa Animal rights Anti-war protests Charities NGO's Organic farming Organic food Recycling Global Warming Music festivals The Beatles John Lennon Bob Marley Willie Nelson Marijuana legalization Psychedelics Timothy Leary Terence Mckenna Psychotherapy Progressive school teachers Liberal Supreme Court judges Socialists ( The socialists of the soviet era communism were stage red/blue. Green socialists don't want to confiscate private propriety, or to nationalize all the factories and business. Green socialists want higher taxes for the rich, less taxes for the working class, more powerful unions, better wages and working conditions for the working class, more welfare, more government regulation for the market, better healthcare, more social programs for the less fortunate members of society) The redistribution of wealth Drum circles Neo shamans Communes Universal health care Doctors without borders Sensitivity training Green health food stores Whole foods Western Yoga Western forms of Buddhism Massage therapy Meditation Meditation crystals Juice cleanses detox Green smoothies Colonics spas Scented candles Burning of incense Aromatherapy Tie-dye t-shirts Kombucha Probiotics Soy Gluten-free products Farmer's markets Che Guevara Oprah Winfrey Nelson Mandela Pope Francis Saving the Whales Humanistic psychology Cooperatives ( Coops) Montessori schools Scandinavia The Scandinavian prison system California San Francisco Oregon Austin Massachusetts Sedona Arizona New York Seattle Hawaii Canada Northern Europe Germany The Netherlands Switzerland Iceland Denuclearization Equal pay Free college for all Universal basic income Amnesty Affirmative action Gun Control Assault weapon ban Pro union Pro EPA Pro cutting the defence budget Open borders Higher taxes Lenient penalties Abolishing the death penalty Drug rehab centres Homeopathy Astrology Hypnosis The Bill Gates and Melinda Gates foundation Dr. Albert Schweitzer Martin Luther King JFK Life coaching Career choice Children's rights advocates Protecting endangered species Mentoring programs Helping the elderly Cleaning up the environment Back to earth movement People wearing more natural clothing Minimalism The Peace Corps The plot from the movie Avatar Civil rights Human rights Watchdog groups Electric vehicles Commuting to work on bicycles Solar power Wind power Renewable energy The corporate culture at google and apple The movie Into the Wild Activists Mental Health professionals teachers Ayahuasca retreats Conscientious objectors Ying-Yang Peace tattoos The peace symbol Russel Brand Sam Harris Mantras of Green Love conquers all Sharing is caring Make love not war Everyone is equal Everyone is beautiful in his or her own way Everyone is right in his or her own way We're all in this together Live and let live Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free Can't we all just get along? The golden rule: Treat others the way you would want to be treated! What triggers Green? Injustice and inequality Oppression of minorities The status quo and hierarchies of power When religion is used to justify oppression Human rights abuses Racism Bigotry Fascism Neo-Nazis The K K K Unchecked capitalism Consumerism Corporate Greed Wall Street CEO's getting golden parachutes while their companies go out of business Exploitation especially around the world in many 3rd world countries Environmental destruction Pollution Triggered by lack of empathy and cold heartedness Animal cruelty Deforestation Raping the earth for its resources War Genocide Rape Torture Abuse Domestic violence Verbal violence School shootings Mass shooting Poverty Fascism Authoritarianism The exclusion of people from a group Libertarians By the fact that Donald Trump is still alive!!!!! Conservative supreme Court In general green is triggered by the backwardness of society (If you are a progressive, keep in mind that the greater the progress you envision for your society, the greater the ego backlash will be from the conservative citizens of your society. And a huge ego backlash could set that society more toward conservativism thus undoing the progressive measures taken in the first place) You must evolve at a slower pace. Too drastic of a change might cause the unwanted regressing effect! Unhealthy manifestations of Green Too easily offended and too sensitive (It would help green to develop a thicker skin!) Too much idealistic and not enough practical (No amount of talk can lead to achieving the change that Green's ideal is advocating. Green needs to develop a more grounded approach to how it plans to help society evolve) (Green can start a revolution but because it was never grounded in reality it usually fades away quickly and the status quo prevails) Group think and mob mentality Green can be ideological Green tends to demonize materialism (Usually Green rejected Orange without fully integrating it first, which leads to a disfunctional way of thinking that business is bad. NO! People need businesses to survive and to make sure all their needs are met and if Green with it's idealistic view of the world interferes too much into the business world, this could lead to massive unemployment and a domino effect which would worsen the survival of that society) Green doesn't fully appreciate the necessity of the lower stages (Green must understand that he needs to meet people at where they are at, not at the level Green would like the people to be) Green may fail to realize the complexity of the economy Green can be too relativistic which can lead to a false equivalency effect Green can sometimes be naively pacifistic Sometimes Green wants to flatten hierarchies too much Green is sometimes not action oriented enough. Not pragmatic enough! That's what happens when Green hasn't properly integrated Orange! Green can have extremist elements Green can be too emotional and far too sensitive! Caring too much may lead to burnout Green can be overzealous about social causes Green can fall prey to guilt. Guilt for driving a gasoline powered car, or guilt for eating meat. For not recycling enough. Etc Green can be a little too reactionary In it's excesses Green can stifle independence and can stifle entrepreneurial spirit Sometimes Green can love to talk about spirituality but can fail to embody it. Green often talks the talk but fails to do the walk. Green can be too entitled Green can deny differences too much! Green can be too rigid or too stuck within it's own perspective. Green is characterized by being too naïve and too altruistic Green can be too trusting of Stage Red. Green can romanticize Stage Purple too much Green's empathy can be exploited and manipulated Green can fall into the doormat syndrome where you let everyone abuse you. Green can be bad with finances Green can over regulate and over tax Green can eliminate boundaries too much Green can lie, because it doesn't want to hurt the feelings of other people Green can fall into the lesser jihad! All the lofty ideals that green has, can become a distraction from the inner work that Green needs to do on himself first. Statistics about Green! About 10% of the entire global population is Green! Up to 30% of the population in Western Europe and in North America is Green! About 15% of the total cultural and world influence is Green! The style of government under Green is a social network, it's human centred, has a flat hierarchy, decentralized, it's socialist/capitalist hybrid. It's liberal, globalist, it seeks to create a global community and it's a melting pot of different cultures and different ideas with tolerance for all the different elements of the pot! How to transcend Green? Read in-depth about Green! Read in-depth about Yellow. Start to notice the differences between Green and Yellow! It is really important for Green to stop judging Red, Blue, Orange and Yellow. Stop demonizing corporations, stop demonizing money, stop demonizing capitalism, stop demonizing conservatives and religion Stop caring about social issues so much. Acknowledge that business is necessary Acknowledge that Green is not the highest stage. Acknowledge the problem with Green mob mentality Start thinking more for yourself Start seeing the world from the lower stages points of view Acknowledge that most of the world wasn't as lucky as you. Most people aren't as educated as you. Most people were not born in first world countries, most people didn't go to any kind of university. Acknowledge that bigots and racists and criminals are acting out of ignorance. Not because they are evil or some other label. Start studying systems thinking Acknowledge that Green's political actions is often ineffective (There is a lot of protesting, yelling and screaming but fundamentally nothing really changes) Acknowledge Green hypocrisy Stop acting self-righteous and superior Be less idealistic and be more grounded in reality Start practicing some serious solo meditation Start practicing self-inquiry Start reading Yellow and Turquoise books Study Spiral Dynamics Start studying nonduality Start deconstructing meaning, value and purpose Make sure you fully integrate Orange and not just react against it or deny it. Make sure you fully integrate Blue and Red. If you are Green and you are struggling with finances, start a business. And try to deal with all the challenges that come with running a successful business If you really want to be truly green you should first become financially independent, go create your own job, your own business, which is actually serving the community in a healthy, environmentally friendly way! Start practicing more neutrality. Notice that sometimes protesting is not enough Become a spiral wizard The master key for transcending any stage is contemplation and self-reflection. (Analyse what aspects or elements from Red, Blue or Orange you haven't fully integrated, what aspects from Green you need to act out harder in order to be more loving or to be at peace so that you can move to Yellow!) Look to master each stage. If you are at Orange or at Blue right now, look for all the ways to master the teachings of Orange or Blue. Don't try to skip or speed run through a stage.

Stage blue is absolutist, conformist and the rise of civilization. Absolute belief in one right and true way. And obedience to authority. Relies solely in belief in some higher authority. A God. It is collectivist rather than individualistic. It seeks to be involved within the collective. It's life is intertwined with the life of the collective. The collectivist stages work for the higher good of the collective, whereas individualistic stages work for the development of the self. Strong emphasis on religion and the afterlife. If you take a stage blue person, and you talk with him about these values, you are going to become his best friend. Beware of a sneaky politician who would take all these keywords from this list and then go rallying and tell that stage blue audience everything it wants to hear. And that crowd will forever become loyal to that politician. That politician will tell them everything they believe in and everything they want to hear. The simple fact that you are watching a video about spiral dynamics on your own volition, this puts you on the spiral into the high orange, maybe green or even low yellow, stage wise. Also while watching this spiral dynamics video series, when you will be reading a stage's value set list, you will say in your mind, yes, that's it, this is what is good for me and the world. If you are at stage blue, You will agree with everything on the list bellow. But if you are at a higher stage you will disagree with most of the things on this list. Values of stage blue Absolute truth and ideology (They hold their ideology sacred. To them their truth is the absolute truth, there is no room for other truths, there is no room for other ideologies but the one that blue believes it is right.) Belief, faith and certainty in their set of values (There is a clear right and wrong) Stage Blue values hard work, discipline and duty. Law and order Justice ( Justice goes hand in hand with the enforcement of their truth, they want to enforce their civilization onto others, their worldview enforced onto others). Blue values hierarchy, social order and the status quo( there is no need to inovate and to be progressive. Our tradition, the way our ancestors did it is the absolute best way to live life) Blue values patriarchy ( Women are there to serve men! Men are the enforcers, they do all the hard work, and women get the benefits of that, and therefore the women should raise the childern and cook food. Women should not hold any position of power acording to blue. And this is not bad, that is the hirarchy, that's the role of the woman) Meaning and greater purpose( Blue's greater purpose is not selfish, it is to be a good citizen, to follow the rules, to be a good christian, to raise his family, or to be a good wife or a good husband, but ultimately is to serve God) Morality is huge for stage blue( A strong sense of right and wrong) Culture, Tradition and heritage( Those values are sacred to blue, they get extremely defensive when attacked on cultural or traditional ground! They need to defend to the teeth their culture and tradition and customs) Crusading for a righteous cause Serving God Theology and doctrine. Orthodoxy, dogma and conformity (Stage blue beliefs that absolute truth has been written by god himself in a book) Stage blue values family very highly Obedience and reverence Respect for your elders God and country (Patriotism, our country is the best country) Righteous living(you live your life according to principles, you have a strong moral code of conduct, you have a sense of honor Reputation (How others perceive you) Good manners, decency, dress etiquette, hair regulations, uniforms. They find profanity offensive. They find as blasphemy speaking down to authority, don't speak down to God. You need to submit to God. Blue values prayer. You pray to God for the things that you need. Blue values authority books like the Bible, the Quran, the constitution etc. Blue believes that you can write the absolute truth in a book. Pledges and allegiances, rituals and ceremonies. Very eager to obey authority, whether is the priest, the pope, mohamed, jesus, or a teacher. Blue values the afterlife. (Heaven, hell and salvation) Strict church attendance every Sunday. Blue wants extreme self control and the suppression of your emotions. Blue values charity, giving back to his community . Values loyalty and hates traitors( Traitors are people who refuse to obey the absolute truth that blue blindly follows) Blue values borders( Borders with their neighbours) Blue values integrity and good character When does blue emerge Blue emerges when the limitations of red are exhausted. Characteristics of blue For blue life has meaning direction and purpose, with predetermined outcomes. Blue always searches for order, security and stability Blue is trying to be concrete and likes to develop structures Dedicated, responsible and meticulous Trustworthy, predictible and loyal Righteous stable living Obedience is enforced through a sense of duty and guilt Blue tries to get rid of impure toughts from the mind. To blue the devil isn't a metaphorical symbol. It is something real. Blue is about surrendering worldly pleasures for reaching salvation for the afterlife. To blue everyone has a proper place within civilisation. Blue believes that the whole universe revolves around mankind, but not just mankind, it thinks that the only thing true in the universe is his race, his culture and his religion. Blue believes that God created the entire universe for the stage blue's culture and religion to be at the top! And rule over the ones who are different to it. Blue never questions authority, elders, religion, or teachers. Because it perceives that the former are the true carriers of the truth. Blue loves laws, regulations, and disciplining one's character. Blue enforces laws and order because otherwise we'd get chaos and anarchy. For blue reality is strictly objective. Has high rigidity, no open mindedness, and high dogma. Right and wrong are absolute, they are not social constructs. Cultural traditions and values are also absolutes, they are not social constructs. Blue has a very black and white worldview. For blue it is objectively defined what is good and what it is evil. There are no nuances. For blue you are with it or against it. Blue takes a very strict and literal approach to the interpretation of religious text. If the bible says that we should stone to death the homosexuals or the pagans, that's exactly what we should do. There is no questioning on whether this approach is a healthy approach, NO. THIS IS THE WILL OF GOD AND IT SHALL BE DONE. Blue fiercely defends religious doctrine against heresy and corruption. Blue thinks that his bible and his religion is the ultimate and absolute truth, so any deviation or any attack on his doctrine is the influence of the devil. To blue the heretics are those who try to make 'clever' interpretations of the bible. Blue is just a congregation of believers. Blue always invokes an anthropomorphic father figure god, at every situation that is happening. To blue God is a bearded man in the clouds that reigns supreme over the earth. God is a human. Because I am a human. Blue believes that there is a higher power, and that higher power wants it's civilisation to win against the heretics and the pagans. Blue believes that God wants his family to acquire more land, more wealth than the families of it's enemies. Blue believes that ultimate judgement will punish with eternal flames the wicked and the heretics and it will reward with infinite bliss all the good Christians. To blue heaven and hell aren't metaphors. They are literal places one goes after death. Blue believes that evil must be stamped out. Eradicated totally from the world. To blue God is in a grand battle against the devil. Blue is extremely judgemental with sinners. Blue rejects multiculturalism. To blue it's traditions, it's customs, it's culture is the best and all the other ones are inferior. They are lower on god's ultimate hierarchy. In blue's eyes foreigners, animals, trees and plants, and mother nature largely exists to serve stage blue mankind. To serve this one true civilisation. And everything which is not mankind shall be exploited and stripped of every resource. Blue fears the most being kicked out of his community. To be marginalized. To blue being kicked out of the church is the worst thing. It is life and death. Blue is all about conquering other lesser civilizations, about building an empire or kingdom. Examples of blue The middle east Romania Russia Cult of personality Nazi Germany Palestinians Zionists Saudi Arabia Christians Muslims Iran India China Patriotism Standing up for the national anthem Monasteries The religious right wing in America Conservatives Republicans Banning abortion and birth control Building border walls Anti-Immigration Witch trials Crusades White supremacy K K K The 10 commandments Noah's Arc Uniforms Catholic and Orthodox nuns George W Bush Mike Pence The Samurai Code Hindu Religion Alex Jones Fox News The second amendment Mandatory military service Virginity pledges Nationalism Queen Victoria's England Military families Police officers, Firefighters and in general blue collar workers. Religious terrorism Spanish inquisition Spanish conquistadors When a soldier jumps on a grenade. Take one for the team. Theocracy Prayer in school The colonial south( USA) Imperial Japan Patriarchy Culture warriors 20th century Marxism(Eastern bloc of the iron curtain). Grand cathedral and temples and mosques. Unequal women's rights Demonizing homosexuals Marriage Statistics of blue About 40% of the adult global population is blue. And about 30% of the cultural global influence is dominated by blue. If you live in a first world democracy you might be underestimating how much blue the world is, and even how much blue your first world country is. The style of government that comes in a state with a fully stage blue citizenry is an authoritarian regime. Very order driven, no separation between church and state, very theocratic. Always has imperialistic ambitions. To check whether a nation has outgrown blue, check if it has imperialistic ambitions or not. If it wants to expand it's current territory. What triggers blue Stage Red Stage Orange Stage Green Stage Yellow Relativism and not knowing. Uncertainty. Those trigger the hell out of blue. Atheism, Secularism, Skepticism. Because this goes at the heart of everything blue stands for which is absolute truth. This calls all their ideologies into question. Relativism strips blue of all it's certainties and absolute truths that it holds so dear. It is an existential threat to them. You cannot change a stage blue person. They are also triggered by post modernism, intellectuals and academic elites. Blue is triggered by Barack Obama. (To blue Obama represents this intellectual, overly academic, overly strategic, philosophical, relativistic, complex thinker, whom is multi-cultural, cares about considering values of different societies. NO! For blue this is treason. To blue Obama is a traitor. Obama was mostly in the green stage. And blue's sworn enemy is green. Blue hates the most stage green. Space cadets, philosophers and free thinkers. Hippies Sex Rock and heavy metal Rap music Materialism, hedonism Not fasting, not respecting the fast period, or the Ramadan Moral corruption triggers blue. Change to the traditional status quo. Changing things just for the sake of changing things. Progressivism Lawless, disorder, and anarchy. When justice is not served. When sinners get away with their sins. Lack of hierarchy. Terrorism. Multiculturalism and globalism Excessive selfishness and egotism. People who aren't willing to sacrifice for the team Disrespect for the status quo. Breaking agreements or the word given. Disloyalty to their civilization. Blue is very sensitive to traitors. A traitor is someone who betray the culture blue was indoctrinated into. Blue is triggered by the questioning of the existing orthodoxy. And by people who question classic social roles. Like the role of the woman in the household. Heresy and blasphemy Science encroaching on religion, blue is extremely sensitive when it sees the secularization of society Unhealthy manifestations of blue Ideology and radical fundamentalism Very closeminded, rigid, stubborn and unwilling to evolve. Blue will be unloving to those who are not within his inner circle of blue people. Traps the mind in rigid and intolerable rigid beliefs. Belief is confused with the truth. Blue gets stuck in one paradigm and no longer can snap out of it in order to see the world from other perspectives. Very prone to mob and herd mentality. Unable to think about metaphysics. Prone to idol worship. Worships the image of Jesus rather than the more abstract and metaphorical of his teachings. Constantly under the pressure of guilt Prone to hypocrisy. Because although it preaches about morality and holy living, blue is one of the most violent, most aggressive. (You cannot substitute a belief system with genuine spiritual purification) Low tolerance for outsiders Very judgmental and demonizing. Because blue believes in objective good and evil. Can easily justify cruelty with holy scriptures Closed to innovation Blue is sexually repressed Blue societies prohibit sexual education in schools Unable to make sense of the value that other cultures exhibit Blue has a lack of intellectual curiosity about the world. Closed to mysticism and nonduality Blue can have a lot of repressed anger Racist, Homophobic and misogynistic Can be oppressive to minorities Reads sacred text way to literally Prone to black and white thinking Prone to us vs them mentality Tends to not having compassion to the weaknesses and frailties of other people Blue is way too strict with their children, often times forcing them to adopt certain customs and traditions and codes of conduct. Blue cannot see the commonality between all the cultures and all religion Blue can be excessively bureaucratic and theocratic Prone to nationalism and communism The worst excesses of blue are genocide and ethnic cleansing Stage blue sayings God gave us this land This is the way god intended it to be They will be punished in the name of Jesus Make America great again A revival of traditional values Say what you do and do what you say Just stick to the rules Actions speak louder than words Honesty is the best policy Better safe than sorry Take one for the team Blood and soil How to transcend stage blue Read very deeply about stage blue, as you read about your current stage you gain self-awareness and therefore you start to observe the limitation of your current worldview. Also read in depth about the next stage which is stage orange. The thing that keeps you stuck in blue is the fact that you resist stage orange and green so much. Stop judging orange, green and yellow. Stop judging the hippies, the progressives and the liberals Stop judging the intellectuals, the elites and the globalists. Stop judging materialism and success, stop judging homosexuality Stop judging relativism, post-modernism, mysticism, new age spirituality (You are refusing to accept evolution due to the fear of the possible excesses which comes with evolution) Stop moralizing. So long you demonizing the inner demons of others you will continue to be stuck with your own inner demons. Stop clinging to tradition, let it go! Notice that all tradition eventually dies. Start thinking for yourself. Stop thinking along the rigid lines of the dogma you have been indoctrinated into. Start to question all authority. Notice that authority is often wrong, authority is often abusive. Therefore you need to become your own authority Start to notice the limitations of religion. There are much more effective ways of practicing spirituality than religion. Start to notice abuses of the church Notice that beliefs are extremely self-deceptive and that belief is not equivalent to truth and to reality. You could never capture reality within a system of beliefs. Notice that all beliefs are ultimately false and are just a creation of the human mind and that they are relative and are there only to serve the human ego. Start to be more rebellious Notice the limitations of judgments and moralism( Notice that when you are judging others you are actually judging yourself) Start to acknowledge that reality is more relative than you ever thought and this notion of absolute truth maybe doesn't exist at all. Start to acknowledge that good and evil do not exist( Notice that what you call evil, someone else calls good, and what you call good someone else calls evil, that depends on your ego and what your agenda is) Start to question whether God exists at all. Start to question what God is. Start to question your religion and culture Start to question your culture's so called exceptionalism( If you are blue you think your culture is the best) Start to notice that the hierarchy of your civilization is repressive and how it hurts other people, especially minorities. Try to put yourself in the shoes of the people who are being hurt by the hierarchy of your civilization's caste system Notice that is more fun being independent that being reliant on a culture or a set of beliefs or traditions. Start to read self-help books about success. Stop being an anal rule keeper. Relax your rules. Develop a thirst for personal success. Start to have a desire to climb the hierarchy. To get to the top. Strive to be the best at something. Notice that separation of church and state is a good thing. Notice that secularism is a good thing. You wouldn't want to live in a theocracy. Start to study history and start to study the abuses and excesses of stage blue nations throughout history. (Study the Nazis, study Hitler, Study Soviet Russia, Communism, Stalin, study the crusades, study the Spanish conquistadors) Start to see the enslavement of other races that have happened throughout history. Read and research for yourself. Develop a student mindset where you are eager to learn about anything. Read multiple perspectives. ( The problem with blue is that it surrounds itself only with other stage blue individuals and it lives in this bubble of stage blue perspectives, thus living inside an echo chamber and this way it cannot fathom the existence of other perspectives. Go to a diverse university so you get exposed to new perspectives and cultures. Start to study science Practice radical open mindedness. Notice that reality is much more complex and nuanced rather than black and white. Embrace your feminine side more Acknowledge that humans are not superior to animals Acknowledge that men are not superior to women Acknowledge that whites are not superior to any other minority And finally the master key for transcending any stage, especially stage blue, is to practice contemplation and self-reflection. Reflect on your own behavior and analyze where you are making mistakes.

Any opposition to that is a misunderstanding which is also included in the meaning of nonduality! ❤️

Nonduality cannot differ from anything because it's literally a word pointing out the oneness of everything including all teachers and their teachings..... It points to the all inclusiveness of reality itself! ❤️

Had no idea of spirituality, beyond religion and new age woo woo. In 2009, was on an anniversary vacation with my gf on the Oregon coast. We took alot of mushrooms, like 5-6g each. I had a full God Awakening. Afterwards, I wanted to know what happen to me. as I had no reference. In doing research, I discovered Nonduality teachers, and they seemed to understand and teach what I had experienced. That was the start of the path.

There's an element of solipsism in nonduality. But nonduality is much broader than solipsism alone. Nonduality acknowledges that conciousness can be localized and individualized into infinite of points of conciousnesses(children of God) that share the same source, experiencing reality from infinite points of view simultaneously. Each point of conciousness having a sovereign will over their reality. The word solipsism becomes redundant at this point to describe reality because it excludes the reality of individuality and multiplicity. So yea, solipsism is technically correct but it's very misleading word aswell because it's only half the truth, not the whole of it. And without the second half, solipsism turns into a pile of crap.

It differs when it comes to solipsism. Nonduality teaches that we are all sentient and we are all one and the same yet also individualized at the same time. Leo teaches that you're the only one sentient and everyone else is a hallucination from your mind. Traditional nonduality wouldn't agree with that. There's not a single spiritual teacher that would agree with that, nonduality or otherwise.

The difference all lies within the consciousness of what God is. Just because someone says nondual things doesn't mean they have a profound consciousness of God. They may not understand God at all. They may not even know what the word God refers to. Just because they think they know doesn't mean they do. And doesn't mean their teaching will get people to realize God. God is the most trickiest thing to understand correctly, and virtually nobody has the epistemic nor ontological foundation necessary to properly understand it. Nonduality does not give people the necessary epistemic and ontological foundation. It offers simplistic group-think with little philosophical depth. Such people don't even understand why philosophical depth is important.

Indeed it is. One of the first things that's much simpler to see from 'one is all' perspective is that the entirety of God is right here, right now, in your teacup. The very notion of perspective only exists in duality. You can explore and tweak this from endless angles, each direction completely bottomless, and it always converges back to One in the most beautiful mindfuck. Inconceivable states of consciousness could be reached this way, not possible or at least much more challenging to get to when you're stuck at 'all is one' because there's no one left to inquire into anything. But you as God can inquire into yourself forever and still still surprise yourself. 'Regular' nonduality doesn't explain how Truth is Love, why there's evil, doesn't let you see divine intelligence in stupidity and mundane, doesn't allow for holding paradox simultaneously beyond simply collapsing it, and so on. That's just the basics and there's higher gears beyond.

This is something I'd like to hear about cuz Leo once said that awakening goes beyond regular nonduality...

@Tristan12 also I suggest reading and listening to Robert Adams. He is a an american classical nonduality teacher who died in the 90s. Google his name and read and listen to him.

This second video is from a guy who is a member in this forum and he is also active on spirituality-related topics on Quora. So the point that these people are making is that in solipsism the claim is that all that exists in reality is me . Or ..the content of my consciousness right now and nothing else . All "others " are mere NPC ..yada yada ..I think most of you guys are familiar with solipsism as it is probably the single most discussed topic on this forum . Their point is that nonduality/Advaita makes an even more radical claim ..that the "me " which is said to be the only thing that exists in the solipsistic worldview ..that that me is ALSO illusory . So not only others don't exist . But you yourself don't exist either . There is simply nobody home in the entire universe . Now ..this leads us to what is called " metaphysical Nihilism "..which simply states that In fact ..nothing exists at all in reality ..no self..no other ..no world ..no universe etc . And this also known as Ajata in Buddhism which is the idea that reality is absolutely empty and devoid of any real substance..or simply put it doesn't exist. And this is how you actually do the work that Leo suggests to actually deconstruct all of reality...it takes three steps: 1- metaphysical solipsism (only me exist.others don't ). 2-Advaita (even I don't exist ). 3Ajata (nothing at all actually exist ).

What do you think is closer to the truth This kind of I created everything solipsism? Or this kind of no self there isn’t anybody radical nonduality? @Leo Gura

Everyone can project whatever meaning they want on the Bible depending on what beliefs and biases they have. In this case, one can project nonduality on it and pretend that the authors of the Bible were writing about nonduality and God realization. I don't know why the exact same thing couldn't be said about any other random text and why the Bible should be treated special. If I try hard enough, I can redefine enough things so that I can say that the founding fathers were actually talking about nonduality and they were trying to teach about God realization. To me, this move seems like a desperate attempt to try to maintain a Christian identity while also trying to be "spiritual" at the same time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nonduality/comments/19bdyiz/whats_your_opinion_on_actualizedorg/ Just sharing this , my username is Professional_Ad , I said good things about your work Leo. I am not the thread OP

Where does one begin the search for spiritual truth self-realization called enlightenment? Dr. David Hawkins’ List Below has been calibrated above 500, which is unconditional love. I find this list important, as I do not want to be duped (smile) on my spiritual path by any book or teacher not yet teaching from the conscious level of (500+ which is unconditional non-duality love.) Hawkins’ Consciousness Scale ranges from 0-1000, (1000 is the Highest Level of pure/consciousness humanly possible.) “The great avatars that set the ultimate paradigm of reality and standard of conduct for all of humanity for thousands of years. Of those, the Lords Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, and Jesus Christ all calibrate at 1,000. All the names for Divinity calibrate as Infinity. The revered great sages and their teachings calibrate in the 700 (extremely rare), such Huang Po and Ramana Maharshi.” -Hawkins After being a student of Dr. Hawkins for a while now, I can share with you that I have forever been changed by his love. Although I’m not yet Enlightened I’m certainly on the path and nothing would take me off it, as I have discovered God’s Love is my LIFE. According to Hawkins we, as humans, live at vastly different “levels” of consciousness. All these levels, along with the “truth level” of ANY true/false style inquiry, can be tested for truth and numerically “calibrated” through muscle testing, on a logarithmic scale of 1-1000. According to Hawkins, any person, concept, thought or object that calibrates at 200 (The level of Integrity) or above is positive (“power”); anything below 200 is negative (“force”). So far, so good. Hawkins’ “map of the levels of human consciousness” is highly consistent with most spiritual teachings, running the range from Shame (lowest) to Enlightenment (highest). Hawkins’ descriptions of the levels are accurate; his personal growth coverage , positive energy and similar concepts are spiritually sound. (This is further discussed in Dr. David Hawkins book, Power vs. Force) Below is Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. ‘List’ of calibrated Spiritual Teachers/Teachings/Places/Books and Mantras that are over the conscious level of 500 UNCONDITIONAL LOVE: [500] – LOVE This level is categorized by love that is very close to being unconditional, unchanging, and permanent. It does not fluctuate nor does it depend on external factors. Love is a state of being. It is a forgiving, nurturing, and a supportive way of relating to the world. It is not intellectual and does not come from the human mind. Love radiates from the heart Chakra. It has the capacity to life others and accomplishes great feats because of its purity of motive. At this level of consciousness, the capacity to discern essence becomes predominant. The core of an issue becomes the center of focus. As reason is bypassed, there arises the capacity for instantaneous recognition of the totality of a problem. Reason only deals with particulars, whereas Love deals with entireties. This ability, often called intuition, is the capacity for instantaneous understanding without resorting to sequential symbol processing. There is a major paradigm shift in those things, which seemed real, which now seem unreal and vice versa. This level opens to door to benevolence, mercy, and Forgiveness through understanding and nonjudgmental. Only 4% of the entire population of the earth attains this level. Because of the dominating power of light over darkness, one individual at this level counterbalances 750,000 people below the 200 levels. This is the level at which spirituality starts, since below this, individuals are still caught up in the linear world. Also the level of a songbird’s song, cat’s purr, and a dog’s wagging tail. [505] – The level of valor. Also the level of Dante. [510] – The current level of Catholicism. Also the level of the Ganges River, which demonstrates the power of spiritual intention, the power of prayer. It calibrates there despite having sewage from 100 metropolitan areas, all kinds of filth, even bodies. [520] – This level interestingly sees much country music, which may be due to the lyrics often speaking about the problems of the heart, emotionally speaking. [535] – The energy level of Christmas, which is probably due to the common practice of giving gifts to others and having festive celebrations with good tidings. [540] – Joy – At this level, love truly becomes unconditional. It becomes experienced as inner joy. This is not the sudden feeling of joy because of a turn of events. Rather, it is a constant accompaniment in everything the individual does in every moment of his or her life. Joy comes from each moment of existence. This is also the level of healing and spiritually based self-help groups. What has been known as ‘miracles’ occurs when someone is at this level of consciousness. Only 0.4% of the global population is at this level. This is also the level of truth of Christian practice in the 6th century AD. This is the level at which the third eye opens, physically known as the Pineal Gland. Devotional acts calibrate at 540, because of the power of their intention. Includes folding hands in prayer, kneeling to pray, genuflection, praying at the Wailing Wall, turning a prayer wheel, etc. [540+] – From this level upward, it is the domain of saints, advanced spiritual students, and healers. A capacity for enormous patience and the persistence of a positive attitude in the face of prolonged adversity is characteristic of this level. The hallmark of this state is Compassion. [540] – The calibration of the music of George Harrison, on an overall basis. Also the level of Socrates. [540-600] – This level of consciousness is reached after a person has a Near Death Experience, which are spiritually transformative and allowed individuals to quickly get to this level. At this level, the world seems illuminated by the beauty and perfection of creation. Everything happens effortlessly, by synchronicity, and the world and everything in it is seen to be an expression of love and divinity. A Presence is felt whose power facilitates phenomena outside conventional expectations of reality, and often termed ‘miraculous’ by the ordinary observer. The spiritual teachers in this level are the ones who have the most contact with significant numbers of people. At this level, joy leads many to become spiritual and inspirational teachers, healers, great artists, or even architects who create the great cathedrals that involve sacred geometry, great inspirational music, and the production of beauty in all its forms. Many major persuasions of Christianity including Roman Catholicism, Anglicanism, Christian Science, and many small denominations such as the Quakers calibrate on this level. [560] – Carl Jung was at this level. Sigmund Freud was below the level of 500 because of his denial of man’s spirituality, whereas Jung affirmed the spiritual nature of human beings. [575] – The level consciousness of ecstasy. [600]- A Course in Miracles (Workbook year of 365 days of lessons.) According to David Hawkins, ACIM calibrates around 600+, making it very factual, and quite enlightening. Here is what Hawkins says about the Bible: Quote: The Old Testament calibrates at only 190. However, Genesis is at 660, Psalms is 650, Proverbs is 350. If these are excluded then the remaining Old Testament calibrates at only 125. The New Testament calibrates at 640. However if Revelations were removed (calibrates at only 70) then the New Testament would calibrate at 790. The current bible calibrates at 475 as a whole. To make it authentically “Holy” as the title implies, it would have to exclude all of the books of the Old Testament (except Genesis, Psalms and Proverbs) and Revelations. If that were done, then the bible would be truly “Holy” and calibrate at over 740. Importantly, the Lamsa version of the bible (Translated from Aramaic, Jesus’ language) is more accurate than the King James Version (translated from Greek). It calibrates 20 points higher. If the Lamsa bible excluded the old testament (except Genesis, Psalms, Proverbs) and revelations it would calibrate at 810. If Revelations were removed from the Lamsa version of the New Testament, it would calibrate at a whopping 880. Society calibrates at 204 I think he said, with great minds on earth calibrating around 499-510 ranges. So at least according to Hawkins, ACIM is very important and highly relevant work. Hawkins own books calibrate from 850-999.5 ranges them, with 1000 being maximum for humanity – that is what Jesus was when he was walking the earth. Hawkins further says that in his calibration studies, students of ACIM at lesson 75 become “Immune” to negative stimuli. He says that this seems to be the critical point in the studies, but that they must be followed from 1-75 before it all really clicks for people. [600] – Peace – This level is associated with the experience designated by such terms as transcendence, Self-Realization, and Christ consciousness. It is extremely rare. Only 1 in 10,000,000 attain this at any given time. It is quite common that individuals at this level remove themselves from society, as the state of bliss that ensues precludes ordinary activity. Some become spiritual teachers; others work anonymously for the betterment of mankind. A few also become great geniuses in their respective fields and make major contributions to society. These individuals are saintly and may eventually be officially designated as such, although at this level, formal religion is commonly transcended and replaced by pure spirituality, from which religions originated. Bliss intervenes at this level and worldly activities stop, sometimes permanently. This level is also noted for the crossing over from the perceptual world of duality, to the perceptual world of Nonduality. Beyond this level, previous lives are easily remembered as well as the circumstances and significance of each life. One individual at this level counterbalances 10,000,000 below the level of 200. Perception at this level is reported as sometimes occurring in seemingly slow motion, suspended in time and space. Nothing is stationary and all is alive and radiant. Although this world is the same one that is seen by others, it has become continuously fluid, evolving in an exquisitely coordinated evolutionary dance in which significance and source are overwhelming. There is an infinite silence in the mind, which has stopped conceptualizing. Enlightenment is reached at levels 600 and higher. A Tibetan abbot once said that Peace is of the greatest importance in our world today. In the absence of peace, we lose what we have gained. In the presence of peace, all things are possible: love, compassion, and forgiveness. Peace is the source of all things. This is also the level of kinesiology. [605]- The level of the Kabbalah and Aurobindo. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe. [610] – The level of Lao Tzu and his teachings. [630] – The calibration of the phrase Om Namaha Shivaya. [640] – The King James Version of the New Testament. [650] – The Book of Psalms. Also the level of ‘I AM’ awareness and Awareness of the ‘I’ as being or is-ness. Also the level of “Shanti Shanti Shanti”. The Lord’s Prayer also calibrates on this level. [660] – The perception of the Self as simply Existence. [700-1000] – Self-Realization and Enlightenment – An individual at this level counterbalances the negativity of 70,000,000 individuals below the level of 200. This is also the level of Sages. The Self is seen as God Manifest. The Declaration of Independence resonates at this level. The Koran also resonates at this level, as it was written before the fall of Mohamed after he ‘took up the sword’. [700s] – The Aura emanating from individuals calibrating at this level has an attraction and an effect on visitors. They like to be near the presence of these individuals because they feel incredible inner peace. Serenity replaces fear and anxiety in those who are around individuals on this level. A typical statement given by a person on this level would be something like “There is no world to save; reality is just an illusion.” A statement such as this is not understandable to most at lower levels. [700] – The level of the phrase Om Mane Padme Hum [705] – The level of the Rig Veda [700+] – There are 22 sages on this planet who calibrate at this level or higher, according to Dr. Hawkins. Of those, 20 of them are at 800 or more, of whom there are 10 at or over 900, and one sage at 990. [740] – The mantra Om, as opposed to Aum, which is a serious alternation and is why it calibrates at the extremely low-level of 65. This is also the level of the New Testament, if the Book of Revelations is included. This is also the level of Mohamed at the time he wrote the Koran, before dropping to 130 after he ‘took up the sword’ at age 38. ‘I’ is seen as a total statement As the Ultimate Reality. [750] – Manifestation calibrates at this level. What appears to be change is the emergence of potentiality out of essence into manifestation. This is also the level of the Lamsa translation of the New Testament from Aramaic. [760] – Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi [780] – The Heart Sutra and the Lotus Sutra. [795] – Bodhidharma as well as the Zen teachings. [800] – Teacher of Enlightenment. [800s] – There is not much that is known about this level range. However, it is seen that salvation of all of humanity is a main priority and concern. [810] – The level of Ramayana [840] – The Self is seen as Beyond Existence or Nonexistence. [850] – The higher Self as Logos. This is also the level of Hinduism currently. Also the level of Void, Oneness, Nothingness, Reality as Consciousness, and Reality as Awareness. [855] – The level of Allness [890] – Hinayana Buddhism (lesser vehicle) and Zen Buddhism. [800s and 900s] – Salvation of humanity as a whole is of primary concern. Spiritual reality, essences, and understandings are of importance. Form and its details are irrelevant except as a necessary style for communication. Physical discomfort starts to increase quite visibly in these levels of consciousness. [900] – Buddhism was this level in the 6th century AD. The teachings of this particular religion have deteriorated less than any other religion. [910] – The Bhagavad-Gita [930] – the level of the esoteric teachings of Jesus Christ as of the 2nd century AD, some of which survived in the Gnostic texts. “After my departure there will arise the ignorant and the crafty, and many things will they ascribe unto Me that I never spake, and many things which I did speak will they withhold, but the day will come when the clouds shall be rolled away, and the Sun of Righteousness shall shine forth with healing in his wings.” ~Jesus, The Essene Gospel of Peace. [960] – Mahayana Buddhism (greater vehicle). Also the level of Huang Po (his book “Dharma of Mind Transmission” is at the level of the void 850, and was written before Po transcended to 960). [965] – The Buddha’s Law of Dependent Origination or Interdependent Co-Creation. [965] – Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, by David R. Hawkins [970] – The Upanishads The Upanishads -are Hindu scriptures that constitute the core teachings of Vedanta. The Upanishads have exerted an important influence on the Hindu philosophy and were collectively considered one of the 100 Most Influential Books Ever Written by the British poet Martin Seymour-Smith. [985] – This is the level of an Avatar. [990] – There is only one living sage at this level, according to Dr. Hawkins. [999] – The statement “There is no cause of anything” calibrates at this level. [1000] – This is the maximum energy level that can be tolerated by the human body and nervous system. It is the extremely rare level of avatars from ages past. No human has ever existed with a consciousness calibration higher than 1000. The archetypes Christ, Buddha, and Krishna are at this level. This state is also the existence of Buddhahood, Christ Consciousness, At-Oneness with the Source Manifest and Unmanifest. Beyond the human realm of consciousness possibility: [1000+] – Buddhahood, Brahman, Christ, Krishna, The ‘I’ of Ultimate Reality. Infinity – The Source of reality manifest as divinity. The supreme creation Source of consciousness eternal. The Source of all that is. Interesting Facts Concerning consciousness calibration, there are some very interesting facts. * Powerful patterns are associated with health; weak patterns are associated with sickness. Every thought, emotion, word & action has one pattern or the other. Every moment of our day we are either moving towards health or sickness. * Everything calibrates at certain levels from weak to high including books, food, water, clothes, people, animals, buildings, cars, movies, sports, music etc. * A good amount of the music today calibrates at levels below 200. Hence it leads to behavior associated with lower energy levels of consciousness. * Most movies will weaken people who watch them by bringing their energy levels down below the 200 level of consciousness. * 85% of the human race calibrates below the critical level of 200. * The power of the few individuals at the top counterbalances the weakness of the masses. o 1 individual at level 300 counterbalances 90,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 400 counterbalances 400,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 500 counterbalances 750,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 600 counterbalances 10 million individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 700 counterbalances 70 million individuals below level 200 o 12 individuals at level 700 equal one Avatar (eg. Buddha, Jesus, Krishna) at level 1,000 * Any meaningful human satisfaction cannot even commence until the level of 250 where some degree of self-confidence begins to emerge. * When one’s consciousness falls below 200 at any given moment you start to lose power and thus grow weaker and more prone to be manipulated by one’s surroundings. * Parts of one’s life will calibrate at a higher level of consciousness while other parts will calibrate a lower levels. It’s the overall average that determines one’s consciousness. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ List of Books – muscle tested by D. Hawkins BOOKS Bhagavad-Gita 910 Vedas 910 Zohar 720 Ramayana 810 Mahabarata 780 Kabala 720 Apocrypha 740 Tora 740 Koran 700 Heart Sutra 780 Lotus Sutra 780 Diamond Sutra 700 Gospel of Thomas 660 Dead Sea Scrolls 650 Book of Kells 570 Vedanta 595 King James bible 475 Lamsa bible 495 Genesis (Lamsa) 660 Psalms 650 Proverbs 350 New Testament (KJ) 640 Lamsa bible (minus Old Testament& revelations, but including Genesis, Psalms, & Proverbs 880 Tibetan Book of the Dead 575 San Hedron 240 Yoga sutras (Patanjali) 630 A Cource In Miracles 600 Book of Mormon 510 SPIRITUAL PRACTICES Christian communion 700 Transcendental Meditation 220 Qiqong 195 Tai chi 310 Hatha yoga 260 Kung Fu 410 Rebirthing 250 Est 400 Sedona Releasing 490 Avatar workshops 245 Seth books 470 Reiki 285 Scientology 195 Rosicrucian 405 Science of Mind 405 I Ching 430 Theosophy 365 Druids 450 PRAYERS AND MANTRAS Lord’s Prayer 650 Om 740 Om Namaha Shivaya 630 Shanti Shanti 650 Om Mane Padme Hum 700 Gregorian Chants 595 Japa 525 Jesus’ Prayer 525 Rosary 515 Prayer of Jabez 310 Cursing (Lord’s name in vain) 45 Damning people to hell 15 Ankh (symbol) 160 Shaktipat Energy 160 SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS “None get to heaven but by me” 940 Eye of the I 900 I (as divinity) 980/998 I (as allness) 990 I (as void) 990 I (as supreme) 1000 Buddha Nature 1000 Justice 380 Justice as “eye for an eye” 375 Theology 460 RELIGIONS BUDDHISM Mahayana 980 Zen 890 Hinayana 890 Lotus Land 740 Tantric 515 Tibetan 490 Won 405 CHRISTIANITY 1st Century 980 After Council of Nicea 485 College of Cardinals 490 Papacy 570 Coptic 475 Born Again 350 Gnostic 290 Modern Protestantism 510 Christian Science 410 Modern Catholicism 440 Jesuit Order 440 Catholic position on pedophelia 90 Amish 375 Quakers 505 Unity 540 Pentacostal 310 Puritan 210 TV Evangelist 205 LDS (Mormon) 390 7th Day Adventist 190 Right Wing fundamentalist 95 Right wing fund. Tv evang. 90 Jehovah’s Witness 195 HINDU Ancient 700 Modern 499 Hari Krishna 460 Subud 470 Sikh 420 Tamal Siddha Vedanta 330 Raja Yoga 485 Sahaj Marg 410 Jainism 495 Islam 700 Current Mohamadism 325 Muslims 205 Shiite Muslims 55 Judaism (modern) 530 Shinto 350 Taoism 500 Unification Church 150 Wicca 160 New Ageism 185 NAMES OF GOD Buddha Nature (as allness) 1000 Buddha Nature (as void) 980 Native American Great Spirit 850 Yahweh 460 Jehovah 205 Elohim 100 God of Old Testament 100 Greek Gods 90 Germanic Gods 90 Scandinavian Gods 90 Gods of War 90 Pagan Gods 100 Name of God as “OM” tests negative God Transcendent 1000 God Immanent 1000 SPIRITUAL TITLES Master 700 Saint 700 Lord 1000 Angels 550 Archangels 50,000 Enlightenment 600 Teacher of the Way to Enlightenment 800 Pope 570 True Guru 540 + Guru (prior to 1960’s) 540 Guru (since the ’60’s) 190 Baba 190 SPIRITUAL TEACHER CALIBRATIONS Avatars Jesus Christ 1000 Buddha 1000 Krishna 1000 Zoroaster 1000 Spiritual Teachers Huang Po 960 Gandhi 760 Mother Theresa 710 Meister Eckhart 700 Chief Detroit 650 Karmapa 630 Muktananda 750 Vivekananda 610 Ramakrishna 620 Rabbi Moses de Leon 720 Nisargadatta Maharaj 720 Ramana Maharshi 720 Ramesh Balsekar 760 Confucius 590 St. Patrick 590 Wallace Black Elk 499 John Calvin 580 John Wesley 360 Martin Luther 580 Dalai Lama 570 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 410 Robert Powell 575 Joel Goldsmith 455 HWL Poonja 370 Wei Wu Wei 475 Charles Filmore 485 Padmasambava 595 Satchitananda 605 Meher Baba 240 Sri Karumay 221 Tenzin Gyaltsen 599 Alice Bailey 445 Vernon Howard 455 Patanjali 660 Peter Ousepensky 335 Robert Schuller 405 Thich Naht Hahn 460 Nostradamus 220 Yogananda 540 Lao Tzu 520 Alan Watts 485 John Blofield 465 Poonjaji 520 Bernadette Roberts 445 Ram Das 420 Chungliang Al Huang 405 C.W. Leadbetter 485 John Bradshaw 460 M Scott Peck 475 Gangaji 475 Joseph Smith 520 Emmett Fox 470 Thomas Merton 520 Hazrat Khan 499 Sant Thahar Singh 315 C.S. Lewis 390 Sri Siva (Sri Guruji) 220 Joseph Campbell 410 Source: Dr. David Hawkins numerous books and seminars including Power Vs. Force and Dr. Hawkins June 28 2003 Sedona Seminar. Gloria in Excelsis Deo! Source: https://nancybragin.com/2012/12/29/dr-david-hawkins-calibrated-reading-list/ NAMASTE

@Jayson G @Leo Gura Thanks. In the book Entheogenic Liberation: Unraveling the Enigma of Nonduality with 5-MeO-DMT Energetic Therapy (Paperback – July 29, 2017) by Dr. Martin W. Ball, Ph.D., (I actually spoke to him about what I was going through), I respect his work deeply. This is not meant to cast any disrespect toward his perspective in this space. However, he seems to reject any sense of story that we hold onto—meaning any process, ceremony, or preparation is, in his view, feeding the ego. His stance suggests that if we are preparing for a 5-MeO-DMT ceremony, we should not approach it with narratives that reinforce the ego, such as ritualistic preparation. That said, I do question the idea of cleansing the space and creating a container. Shamans in the jungle spend an enormous amount of time preparing their land, space, and moloka to ensure guests are as spiritually protected as possible. Frankly, I don't know how much of this translates to the realms that 5-MeO-DMT takes you to. But based on my findings over the past year, it seems that whenever you engage in something that allows your consciousness to— for lack of a better word—leave your body, it creates a kind of vacuum where things can enter. Honestly, this could all be fabricated, as I find my attraction to 5-MeO-DMT to be rooted in its purity. It seems to be the least encumbered by stories compared to other medicines. The shaman I sat with mentioned that he often has to clear a lot of stuff off people who return from the jungle. He also said that taking medicine or doing this kind of work in a busy city is equally dangerous. But I have to ask—and as part of my process, I’ll be doing a practitioner’s course—does anyone here practice preparation in terms of cleansing the space? Would love to hear your thoughts.

The Metaphysics of Absolute Realism ~First Principle: Defining Reality~ Reality must be absolute. This is not merely an assumption but a necessity for the term to hold any meaning at all. If reality were not absolute—if it were instead relative, subjective, or dependent on individual perception—then it would cease to be reality in any meaningful sense. It would become a shifting, contradictory concept, incapable of providing a foundation for knowledge, reason, or action. To define reality as absolute is to affirm that there is something stable and independent of our perceptions. While individuals may interpret or experience reality differently, the existence of an underlying structure is inescapable. If reality were subjective, then conflicting realities could coexist—meaning something could be both true and false, existent and nonexistent, at the same time. Such contradictions collapse under their own weight. Words and concepts rely on consistency to function. If "reality" referred to something malleable and changing based on perspective, it would lose its coherence. To speak meaningfully about reality, we must recognize it as something distinct from perception—a framework within which perception occurs, but not something defined by it. This is not an abstract concern but a fundamental truth guiding all understanding. Science, logic, morality, and even the simple act of communication depend on an absolute reality. If reality were not absolute, then no knowledge could be established, no truth verified, and no decision made with any real consequence. Therefore, before we build any further philosophical structure, we must first affirm this foundation: Reality is absolute. Otherwise, it is not reality at all. ~Second Principle: Describing Reality~ Just as it is established that reality must be absolute in order to have meaning, we must now recognize that reality must be nondual for the same reason. Duality refers to the idea that there are two fundamental, distinct, and opposing principles that define existence. Common examples include: Mind vs. Matter Good vs. Evil Order vs. Chaos Subject vs. Object In any dualistic system, reality is composed of two separate things that interact but remain fundamentally distinct. This means that neither one is fully absolute, because each is defined in relation to the other. For example, “light” is only meaningful in contrast to “darkness.” Since we’ve established that reality is absolute, we must now ask: Can something absolute be dual? The answer is no, and here's why: Duality Implies Limitation — if reality were dual, then each part of the duality would be limited by the existence of the other. Consider the common duality of light and darkness. These two concepts are typically seen as opposites, yet they define each other by their relationship. Light only has meaning in contrast to darkness, and vice versa. If there were no darkness, there would be no need for light to be distinguished or understood. Likewise, without light, there could be no meaningful concept of darkness. In this way, light is limited because it is only defined in relation to darkness. Its existence depends on the presence of its opposite. Dualities like light/darkness, good/evil, or subject/object create a dynamic where each half is incomplete without the other. The two are intertwined and dependent on each other for meaning. Each side is limited by the fact that it must relate to the other. Neither side can be fully itself without its counterpart. Now, if we apply this logic to absolute reality, we see that something truly absolute cannot be defined by contrast. Absolute reality cannot be dependent on or limited by anything else. If reality were dual, it would need its opposite to define it, which would limit its completeness and independence. Duality implies limitation because the two parts of a duality are mutually defining, relying on each other to make sense. For something to be absolute, it must stand alone—independent, without needing another part to define its nature. This is why duality can’t fit within the concept of absolute reality. Duality Requires Relation — and the absolute is not relative. In order for there to be two fundamental things, they must be defined in relation to each other. But reality, being absolute, is not relative to anything. It simply is. Duality is the existence of two distinct, opposing, or complementary principles. To be dual means there are two entities or forces that define each other through their difference. These two parts, while distinct, rely on each other to create meaning. They cannot exist independently because they are defined by their relationship to each other. If we claim that reality is absolute, we are asserting that it is singular, unified, and independent. It cannot be split into parts that are dependent on one another for meaning or existence. But duality inherently relies on the relation between separate things, and that goes against the idea of absoluteness. If there are two distinct aspects of reality, they cannot be absolute because they rely on each other to be meaningful. Each side of the duality would be dependent on the existence of the other, implying that they are not self-contained or independent. This creates a paradox because absolute reality cannot depend on anything else for its existence. It simply is—complete and indivisible. Hence, dualities, which require relation and interdependence, cannot apply to an absolute reality. Let’s consider a simple example, like motion vs. rest. These are dualistic concepts. Motion is defined by the absence of rest. Rest is defined by the absence of motion. But in an absolute reality, if it were ever to truly exist in a state of complete "rest" (no movement at all), there would be no need for the concept of motion. Similarly, if everything were in motion, rest would have no meaning. The two depend on each other to even exist as ideas. This interdependence shows how duality is rooted in a relational framework. A Truly Dual Reality Would Mean Two Realities, Which is Contradictory — If reality consisted of two fundamental, independent things, then neither would be the whole of reality and each would only be part of it. This means there would be something greater than both that unifies them, making the two parts not fundamental after all. When we say that duality involves two realities, we're speaking about the fundamental separation of the two components that make up the whole. In dualistic systems, the two parts are distinct from each other and define each other through contrast. This separation leads to the idea that reality, as a whole, isn’t a singular entity but is instead made up of two co-existing but distinct elements. Descartes argued that reality is composed of two separate substances: the mind (non-material, thinking) and matter (material, extended). These two substances are distinct, meaning that they don’t merge into a single unified reality but exist independently. Now, this creates an issue: if reality is fundamentally divided into two separate substances (like mind and matter), then each of these substances must have its own independent existence to maintain their distinction. That’s where the concept of "two realities" comes in: Mind as one reality—a non-material, thinking realm. Matter as another reality—a physical, material realm. For Descartes, these two "realities" interact, but they are still distinct from each other. Each one exists on its own terms, with its own nature, and they only come into contact through specific interactions. Why Does This Imply Two Realities? In a dualistic system, the fact that the two substances (or principles) are distinct means that each exists on its own terms. They are not unified into one absolute reality but are separate. Therefore, what we're dealing with is two fundamental aspects of reality that could, in theory, exist separately from one another. If both mind and matter are considered to be fully real and separate from each other, we now have two coexisting realities: One that exists in the realm of thought and consciousness (mind). One that exists in the realm of physical existence (matter). These two realities are not unified into one absolute, indivisible reality—they are simply two aspects of an overarching system, but not a system that can be described as a unified whole. This is why we refer to it as “two realities” rather than just one. In Contrast: The Nondual Absolute Reality Now, if reality is absolute then it couldn't be divided into two distinct realities because: An absolute reality is all-encompassing — it must be unified, complete, and indivisible. If we divide it into two realities, we’re implying that neither reality is whole on its own; they each need the other to define their existence. But if reality is truly absolute, there must be no dependence on something else to define it. Duality creates an inherent contradiction—since each "reality" would need to be independent, the very notion of "reality" becomes fractured and inconsistent, because there would be no underlying unity to connect the two. Therefore, in order to have a true reality, one that is truly absolute, it must be described as nondual: any apparent duality must be secondary, arising within the one absolute reality rather than being fundamental to it. Reality must be nondual otherwise it ceases to be absolute and thusly ceases to be reality at all. ~Third Principle: Determining Reality~ The fundamental question in philosophy concerns the identity of reality itself. What is reality? What is its true nature and essence? The goal is to uncover this true identity — the very foundation of all that exists. This inquiry aims to determine the identity of reality and understand its true essence. A significant problem arises when considering the nature of reality: If reality is defined as absolute and described as nondual, why does the experience of separation persist in everyday life? Individuals perceive themselves as distinct entities, separate from one another and the world. This apparent separation contradicts the concept of reality as absolute and nondual, creating a paradox. How can the nondual nature of reality coexist with the perception of fragmentation and individual selves? This is the central problem to address. The source of this paradox lies in consciousness — the faculty of experience. Consciousness generates the illusion of separation by presenting experiences as distinct and individual. Through consciousness, individuals perceive themselves as separate from the world around them, the appearance of separation is emphasized, obscuring the deeper interconnectedness of all things. Therefore, consciousness is responsible for the appearance of separation, leaving almost no clue into the underlying unity. Given this paradox, it becomes evident that there is a need for a fundamental uniting principle that transcends the appearance of separation. This unifying principle must connect all things in the deepest sense and resolve the fragmentation caused by consciousnesses. The search is for a uniting principle that bridges the gap between the perception of separation and the true nature of nonduality. The Uniting Principle In the search for this uniting principle, awareness emerges as a key concept. Awareness is the capacity to know — the essential foundation that makes all experience possible. Awareness is not bound to individual consciousnesses but is a universal presence that underlies all knowing. It is the constant capacity for knowing that transcends individual boundaries and connects all experiences. Because awareness is universal, it connects all beings and all experiences. It is not localized to any particular individual or form but exists as the foundational capacity for knowing that transcends distinctions. This universality makes awareness a natural candidate for the uniting principle of reality. While awareness is nondual in nature, it remains passive. Awareness simply exists as the capacity to know. It does not actively direct itself; it is the background condition for knowing to occur. Awareness, although foundational to all experience, does not explain the dynamic nature of existence. As a passive, unmanifested presence, awareness alone cannot be the ultimate identity of reality. It is, however, a necessary condition for experience to arise. To understand what drives awareness, the concept of caring is introduced. Caring is the active force that directs awareness — the impetus for awareness to focus on something. Without caring, awareness would have no object to focus on, and thus no reason to direct itself. Caring provides the motivation for awareness, giving it direction and purpose. Without caring, awareness would remain passive and undirected, without any manifestation of experience. Caring is the necessary condition for awareness to be realized as a directed force. It is through caring that awareness becomes active, manifesting as attention and focu Caring and awareness are inherently inseparable. The existence of one requires the existence of the other. Without awareness, there is nothing to care for, and without caring, there would be no reason for awareness to exist. Together, caring and awareness form the foundation of all experience, and they are two aspects of a single, nondual essence. This inseparability reveals that the experience of separation is ultimately illusory. The fundamental reality is the unity of caring and awareness, an essence that connects all things and transcends any apparent differences. The Identity of Reality At this stage, it becomes clear that caring and awareness are not separate forces but rather two aspects of the same essence. This essence is identified as Spirit. Spirit represents the nondual essence that encompasses both caring and awareness. It is the active principle of caring and the passive capacity of awareness, united in a single, indivisible being. Spirit is the underlying beingness that animates reality, the source from which all things arise. It is the true identity of reality — the foundation of all existence. The term Spirit has long been used to describe the immaterial essence that animates and connects all life. In this context, Spirit represents the nondual essence of both caring and awareness, the unifying principle that transcends all separation. Conclusion Through philosophical inquiry, it is now evident that the true identity of reality is Spirit — the nondual essence of both caring and awareness. This identity resolves the paradox of separation, as Spirit is the fundamental unifying principle that connects all things in reality. The identity of Spirit is consistent with the first two principles: Reality must be absolute, and Spirit is absolute in its nature, encompassing all experience. Reality is nondual, and Spirit is nondual, transcending any sense of separation. Thus, the true identity of reality is Spirit, and through this understanding, the appearance of separation is reconciled with the ultimate, unified essence of all that exists.

Christianity is a massive trap. I mean it's a good thing for many many many people like h addicts and stuff...or people who literally can't govern themselves without dipping into chaos or destruction. It's a very good dumb handle to hold onto if the only other option is destination-fucked, but the same person could easily use Buddhism to hold onto and would be probably better off. A lot closer. I was born and raised into Christianity and studied it at incredible depths as a child and young adult. Honestly I love it, but only because I'm skilled enough to know how to interpret it. It lead to a lot of problems in my life. My family didn't have any real world help, all they were taught was "sing to jesus" and you'll go to heaven...which resulted in mass chaos and pain in my family. The real world requires a real religion. A religion that is wayyyyyyy more intelligent, powerful and accurate. A religion that is so powerful that it isint even a religion. I am so fucking glad nonduality and mysticism and enlightenment is real, I'd be fucked otherwise lol. It's a dream come true. When I discovered this...I screamed. Bonus notes: You can check out the books of the apocrypha (catholic scriptures removed by Protestantism), the lost books of eden and Mormonism. Mormonism is interesting. They have a saying: as man is, God once was, as God is, man can become. They also are led by their intuition by something they call "the burning in the belly" or some shit. Also some of the gifts of the holy ghost are legit like prophecy, word of knowledge, word of wisdom and I think speaking in tongues is legit. But it's all subject to massive interpretational inaccuracies, so yeah. Also if you need some Christian half mystic info check out mooji and Andrew wommack. But be warned, wommacks material is highly deluded. Take it with 100 pinches of salt.

No it isn't. I grew up without any religion and it was the best gift I could have received from the universe. Why do you think my mind is so free? Because it was never corrupted by an human religion. Christianity is child abuse. If evil was actually real, Christianity would be it. That's even worse. This is pure devilry. I know. And I'm saying this is self-deception and corruption. It is absolutely textbook idolatry. Jesus is no more God than a dog is. Worshipping a dog is idol worship. Worshipping Jesus is idol worship. Christians are so deluded that they don't even understand they are doing idol worship. Christianity is a corruption of Judaism. No. The key difference is that I show you guys and force you guys to contemplate and question everything. No one in the world shows you how to question reality more than me. THAT is the proof of the goodness of my teachings. I even force you to doubt nonduality. I even force you to realize I am your own imagination. I even force you to doubt enlightenment. Of course if you ever start to worship me you would have violated everything I ever taught. So that mistake is on you.