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Well, if you're looking for something revealing that would give that out, then you're discerning people based on how you feel they fit into social groups. You're creating an image of how certain people look and behave based on what they do, who they are or what they study. An awakened person could or could not have those characteristics that you're looking for. There's nothing discerning about someone who's waking up or not. You're looking, which means the process above. It's how the ego mind works.

I used to work as a cashier and one time this guy came and me and him looked each other deep in the eyes and I saw “it”. And I think he saw “it” too. A week or so later he was outside sitting on a bench and saw me and waved at me and I also sensed “it” this time too and I bet he sensed “it” too. The encounters were not flirtatious it was something I’ve never experienced before and I saw hundreds of people working there but this one stood out for me

@Shodburrito if I'm reading this correctly, you're saying in no uncertain terms that you've permanently awakened, right? Would you be willing to go into more detail about the process that led you there? And maybe provide a clear definition of what you mean by "awakening"? I resonate with large chunks of your post, but the humdrum attitude towards spiritual pursuits just seems a bit strange to me. I get that in the eternal grand scheme of things, it's probably meaningless, but I'd still rather actively work towards a more conscious existence than be a crack addict on the streets for example. Though I'm not awakened, so it's possible I just can't understand.

From your perspective it is. From my experience it is cool, but not that life changing after the dust has settled. I realized that the only thing to do is to pursue what I enjoy. I think most people, including myself until recently, believe that there is something we must do in this life. For people who pursue spirituality a lot of the times it comes across that we should become more loving or help others. It can be a variety of other things, but it is wrapped up in an idea that there is an objective purpose to existence. If I don't meditate x hours a week, believe x ideas, and live a certain way I am not awakened. People package awakening that it is a great thing that can happen. I think its value is highly overstated. The only real way my life has changed after pursuing awakening i that I am conscious on a deeper level of why I do things. I used to act unconsciously on desires without knowing any of the biases operating the steering wheel behind my life. Spirituality made me believe, and I think a lot of others too, that these biases are bad and should be removed. But, I have recently realized that thinking this way is just as subjective as the biases. So I have now adopted a lifestyle where I simply try to embody the purest form of my existence. I simply do what I enjoy and exist the way I enjoy. In fact, my life is, in many ways, similar to the way it was 4 years ago before I started philosophy/spirituality. The difference is I realize the absolute relativity of my beliefs and everyone elses, and I am making a conscious decision to experience the things I enjoy, rather than let them unconsciosuly control me. I do not think many people here can relate or understand what I am saying because they have not awakened to the fact that awakening is only relatively better than staying asleep. Most people pursue awakening because they think it will be genuinely better than many other things they can dedicate their time to. I think that many also believe that it would be a great thing for other people to pursue awakening too. Now that i see how this is as relative as any other value judgement, I have come to accept that there are many other things I enjoy more than experiencing the bliss and peace of no mind. Awakening has significantly reduced the suffering I experience in life, but now that the dust has settled, I realize that there are many other things I genuinely enjoy more than letting go and experiencing peace. It is not that I cannot return to that state to enjoy it also, but that I have many other things which I would rather do.

@Nivsch You are probably branding me as some extremist, which believe me, I am totally not. But I like your reply and I want to let you know where you misunderstanding and why am i acting the way I act. I totally get where you are coming from and the way you are trying to operate is at the higher stage, I can see that, look i am doing a lot of deep spiritual work and awakening, i am not a fool. I know you want to see good in every person and I see that you gave a chance to watch Owen Jones based on his tone that he is perhaps neutral. You need to understand, there are radicals at low vision, which those who think say the same and there are intelligent people at low vision. They can be as antisemitic as the radicals, but they speak nice, polite, dont show their anger, but operate at the same low level of development. They could care less about the other side in anything, in this particular case, they can be deeply antisemitic, but they will market their idea in a very subtle and nice way. Look, a truly awakened person, for the most part, would not even speak about this topic. Most humans operate at a low level, your replies fall on deaf ear, but Ia m sure you understand this. So if this is the case, why not act on a primitive level, at least you say straight up then going in circles. Thats why I say what I mean. I can do the same thing, speak intelligently, throw some deep words while keep the same meaning, or speak on that primitive level where others would just easily understand me. See if you get it. If you would visit a kindergarten, you would speak with them on a very low human development level, because they simply would not understand you otherwise.

What a cool description. I have been thinking of experimenting with Salvia again (only did it a few times, 5x extract), your report awakened my curiosity. Cheers on handling it with such mastery 👏

"I'm In pain everyday all day "-Leo that truly broke my heart 😥 This thread is for all but for our dear @James123 and our beloved @Leo Gura as well specially . awakened saints from thousands of years ago like buddha for example happen to awaken mostly in hardship. And in fact most people awaken when they are completely broken.. isolated..alone..has lost everything whether that be in the material and emotional sense. It's so a person has no other options BUT to turn inward.. to reflect.. and BUT to look to some type of higher power. That's when our soul peaks through our ego because we've done NOTHING but abuse ourselves through all the trials and tribulations that our higher supreme has put on our pathway...because of our ego our self .the devil as Leo says is YOU .the self .the ego. Its resistance to reality .if you accept reality unconditionally you will be awakened and at peace . Leo shits on this and laugh because of his autoimmune disease or whatever but please Leo don't lose hope. You are a wise person .you should know by now that suffering is nesscary to cut through life's delusions and wake the hell up spiritually. When we allow ourselves to break out of the negative as hell poor me victim roles that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET HAS SUFFERED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER..and view life's uncomfortable moments as “lessons” that our soul is meant to be given..and meant to grow from.. and be ACTUALLY GRATEFUL for these things.. that's when you know you're on the right track. When you stop judging reality to good and bad because YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE..that's when you're experiencing spiritual awakening. When there's a peace within you..no matter what events seem to take place in your life..and you can see life as beautiful still..you're on your way. Hang in there brother . Much love and best wishes for James and Leo 🙏

I am currently shifting between various lenses dynamically. One is to see the world perfectly, all past events through rose colored glasses, complete compassion for every person and every circumstance and a desire to relive and revitalize it. And the other lens is this weird awareness of non-self-awareness that permeates most our lives where shitty things happen and everything feels rough or like cardboard. And to shift between both simultaneously really gives you perspective. Imagine this: You're at a laundromat, everything is grey, you're bored, annoyed, waiting for time to pass, strong sense of everything being heavy and physical and annoying, you're doing chores, you're sweaty, you feel a sense of hopelessness with the routine repeating itself indefinitely going nowhere, you're an ordinary person living a meaningless life, constantly stressed and on edge, just getting by, repeating and taking care of basic necessities, everything is set in stone, rigid, bland, boring, plastic, you got back pain, you're fatigued, unfocused, bothered, everything is mechanic and the air is suffocating, hopeless, you avoid the stains and grease as you walk. Now imagine: You walk out, you see a flower growing out from between the pavement, the sun is setting and orange rays are permeating the atmosphere, the ground feels weirdly solid, flat, you feel its physicality in contrast to your own body, through the dynamic you feel bouncy, people walk by, you notice how the wind sways their clothes, time slows down as you pay attention, they walk past looking at their phones going about their lives, you walk, the walls of the buildings next to you have an interesting texture, the way they reflect light, you notice the graffiti, you visualize the teenagers who created it, you wonder how far in the past it has been, you keep walking, you hear the sounds of crickets, see cars drive by with music passing you, the sunset at the edge of the skyline looks so beautiful, you start smiling, the way you walk changes, you feel relaxed, attuned, you pay so much more attention, you see how the wind sways everyone's hair, you feel the breeze of fresh air, you feel in love, everything feels perfect, you want to express it somehow but don't know in what way, it seems everyone is already happy, maybe you were the only one that wasn't. Was life always like this? Why didn't I see it before? So, now this polarity is an intense one, the difference comes through focus, engagement, energy. It seems that to engage with and to wonder about any one thing in relation to any other with a sense of playfulness, one can bring oneself into a state of happiness. But I've only really awakened to it being a thing in itself now. If you can consistently access and make reality feel magical, then that's an absolutely amazing state to be in. This also perfectly describes the magic of psychedelics, though reality comes in many more forms and shapes.

Yes. The ego/separate-self is literally a self-contraction, normally felt in the head. That can drop away (making the field boundless and nondual) and with it all resistance to what is appearing (aka suffering). Restoring actually the real and unclouded "state of things", with brilliant clarity and lucidity and Sat-Chit-Ananda. https://www.actualized.org/forum/search/?&q=self-contraction&author=Water by the River Don't get blackpilled by suffering/resistance-is-unavoidable-aficionados. If these aficinados would have the capacity/tools/sobre-Awakening-skills/training to release this resistance (aka ego/separate-self), they would do it immediately. Problem is just, they literally ARE or feel themselves to be that resistance/ego/self-contraction, and don't have enough training in releasing that, aka meditation, or are unwilling to finally let go of the contraction-bug). So it would need a transcendence/differentiation/death from the former self - including too a large part its original Raison d'être, which can correspond to something along these lines: So what gets these self-contractions-on-two-feet to actually transcend the self-contraction anyway, and return to righ here-right now True Being? If its not practice/meditation (and the resulting awakened states, aka the carrot), its more suffering (the stick). Or, actually, too much suffering for the separate-self gig to continue its current pet-project, since that didn't deliver enough relieve from the self-contraction. As no pet-project actually does in the end. Timeline: This life or the next. Nobody gets left in Samsara forever. But It ain't over till the fat lady sings, and we are on site called Actualized.org, aren't we? So it seems its game on for the next crash and burn (which may be as least serious as possible) and wise-up chapter (which may come as fast as possible and be as lovely as possible) in this lovely & epic heroes-journey Selling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero's_journey by the River "In narratology and comparative mythology, the hero's journey, also known as the monomyth, is the common template of stories that involve a hero who goes on an adventure, is victorious in a decisive crisis, and comes home changed or transformed." PS: Lets seen in July 2025 how the stars have aligned.

true enlightenment, can lead to solipsistic realization and waking up from the illusion that's been protecting the human mind, it can cause individual mental health crisis When large groups of people collectively awaken from the societal dream, they face severe social coordination issues. Society operates on shared narratives and illusions—moral codes, societal norms, and promises of happiness through specific actions—all designed to create stability and predictability. Enlightenment disrupts these illusions, making it difficult for awakened individuals to be controlled or coordinated in traditional ways. While this newfound freedom can lead to liberation from societal norms, it also destabilizes the existing social order. In examining the psychedelic movement, we see that dualistic psychedelics like magic mushrooms, LSD, and even DMT do not awaken individuals from the dream; they merely twist the existing narratives. These substances offer alternative perspectives without fundamentally altering the underlying dream state. In contrast, dogmatic religions provide rigid, rock-like narratives that create strong, stable social machines, but these systems are often inflexible and unable to adapt to external changes, leading to potential collapse. Magic mushrooms and LSD, associated with the hippie and new-age movements, introduce flexibility and alternative perspectives. However, they often lead to overly diverse, chaotic theories that lack integration and coherence. These narratives can become too twisted and detached from reality, creating fragmented worldviews that are incompatible and lack synergy, aka conspiracy theories. Non-dual psychedelics like 5-MeO-DMT, DPT, and similar substances pose a different problem. These substances dissolve collective narratives without offering new ones. While occasional use might not cause widespread issues, frequent use akin to that of magic mushrooms or LSD could lead to a society devoid of shared narratives. In such a scenario, people are no longer living in illusions, but this absence of a shared dream complicates coordination. Enlightenment, which breaks all societal rules, requires a new way to coordinate collective actions. At the heart of enlightenment lies solipsism—the realization that one's mind creates and imagines everything. Interaction with the external world depends on one's ability to imagine and detect it. This means that reality, society, and all interactions are essentially products of our imagination. Solipsism reveals that everything is an illusion, and this profound understanding can disrupt societal coordination mechanisms. As society wakes up from the collective dream, we face the challenge of post-enlightenment coordination. Historically, a single enlightened being could be worshipped and create a religion to coordinate others. However, with potentially hundreds of thousands or even millions of enlightened individuals, our current social systems are inadequate. Enlightened beings- like a live player, can take a different strategy and adapt differently, they are awaken from the Game, and can make a different game, which may make them particularly good at adapting the Rapid- ever changing the world of AGI, letting the AGI to do the logos, empowering human agency, and we become the architect of the system.

Also I am wondering, (not that it’s a good idea) but Biden could have taken some kind of meds similar to dopamine and it would have awakened him more, meaning he would be more verbal. But I think he was set up by the party, cause traditionally we have debates somewhere in September and not that early. I think they on purposely threw him over the bus to make a deal that he needs to be replaced. Cause even this January when he gave state of the Union, (I didn’t watch back then but just watched now to compare) he is like day and night different. To me it was kinda done on purse to throw him under bus, I mean the entire world speaks now how bad his performance was. I am sure they could have done so much better, that is not an excuse. He was at his worse. But at @Vibes may be right he may be getting closer to death, especially with such stressful position he is having. And also the aftermath when he meet his wife Jil and she is treating him like a kid that he answered every question, added more to the wound showing that his mental state goes to childhood, that was extremely extra, and dems are the ones to blame unless they really want to get rid of him. @Leo Gura is right, presidents don’t have so much power as everyone thinks and it’s other departments that really run the show, they are more of representing the country. So I would not worry for Trump to win. Besides it’s the state department that makes all decision anyways. Now as far as RFK goes, usually I would say there are no chances of winning, but this maybe the only time that he can actually win, as most people don’t like neither Trump or Biden. I would say at this stage of the game he may have really high chances of winning. However, the deep state or whatever you call, they throw monkey wrench at him and he gets hard time. Like for example the CNN did not allowed him to participate in debates, I think he would have beat both of them. Also many were focused on Biden, but Trump wasn’t his best neither, if you remember back in 2020, he was so much more energetic.

Ok, sir don't let my dry humor stop you from accomplishing your goal. I've already awakened to humor and realized it's good for the psyche.

Hindus took weed and datura, and who knows what else. Magic mushrooms grow on all continents except antarctica so it's safe to assume they ate them too. But none of that is even needed because a certain percentage of humans are born awakened and mystical. So the real answer is just genetics.

Good questions. Enlightenment means having realized ones true eternal nature as Infinite Being/Infinite Reality itself. How does one call that? There is nothing to reference it against. No pointer fully describes it, since any pointer is containted within "it". Its You. Formless Infinite Eternal True You/Being. So one could describe it as raspberry, or not, credit to Ralston. From Artems homepage: What did you realize -- expressed in one sentence -- upon spiritual awakening? I don’t exist - I never have. My existence was a dream, a delusion. I am the totality of existence, which is fundamentally unknowable. Nothing can be said about what I am. That is true, because Infinite Being/Infinite Reality can not be described "positively" in any way, since that would already limit it, and that pointers appears within it. Madhyamaka. Yet, one can "dance" and guide linguistically with pointers as high as possible. To answer your question: I wouldn't write like he does, like hairless monkey as last stage. Or material/physical universe and so on. Put 10 people having realized their nature in one room, and they will all use different language. But he doesn't mean a material/physical universe external or separate from him. He means nondual. How one calls the "dreamstuff" or mere appearance of manifestation is not so important. And, after realizing fundamental Infinite Reality/True Being, it is a bit like: Dogen: Before one studies Zen, mountains are mountains and waters are waters; after a first glimpse into the truth of Zen, mountains are no longer mountains and waters are no longer waters; after enlightenment, mountains are once again mountains and waters once again waters. The uuuuuuuuuuh, oooooooooooh, its all mere appearance and dream stuff happening in Infinite Being has worn off, become old. Its like: Yeah, its like that, so nothing special, and the "realizer" of that is also not special (because the "realizer"-arisings are also illusion). Taking that as special would tend to kill the awakened states, because of self-importance and stuff the like. So its mountains are again mountains. A hairless monkey appears in my Infinite Being, which can run perfectly fine on autopilot. No need to make an identity out of that and feel like being only that hairless monkey. Or that the hairless monkey is special. That really is fooling "one"-self. A special monkey in Infinite Being, being a special monkey. A nice seduction/ilusion. Concerning "Consciousness doesn't exist" - well, I wouldn't write it like that. Semantics. Self-Consciousness doesn't exist, but appears. Some appearances happen, and there is Awareness of it. That can't be denied. Nisgardatta made a differentiation between Consciousness (doesn't exist but appear), but Awareness does (he called that Parabrahman). In my view, that is all not the optimum usage of words/semantics. Infinite Reality with the potential of consciousness OF/Awareness IF appearances appear. And unaware of itself if nothing appears (cessation). In its Infinite state if truly nothing arises, "it" has the potential for sentience if form/appearance/movement arises, but "it" doesn't have to. Deep Sleep, Cessation, Nirvikalpa. And btw., differentiating that difference between consciousness OF and Infinite/Absolute potentially unaware of itself (Cessation, Deep Sleep, Nirvikalpa) is the deciding difference between Enlightenment and previous AWAKENINGS, um, Awakenings. It is the difference between the Absolute Reality being truly empty and formless, or "loaded" with consciousness OF (aka form/appearance/lenses/filters/...). Maybe that helps. Again, not my style, but I understand what he means and why he writes that. And then: We had enlightened Adi Da (who f***** up in many areas), we had enlightened Zen "Nazis" (Zen at War). Obviously, plenty of stuff on the relative level can still go wrong. And "coming out" as a teacher... well, not for the faint of hearted. Not everbody gets that done "in grace" like for example Francis Lucille, after been coached for 15 years after his Enlightenment (if I understood that correctly) and getting students refered to by his teacher Jean Klein, after being financially independend and not chasing anything anymore... then the teacher-gig is much more easier. Ken Wilber wrote one can remain a jerk and still be enlightened. That is the remaining personality. And that being/mindstream can still know its True Nature and what Infinite Reality is perfectly well. And can easily become a red flag for others because of claiming Enlightenment. I would look for compassion when searching a teacher, and liberation. And intelligence and clear speaking. And even then, that gentleman/lady can still go wrong drastically on the relative level. And still know his/her true nature... So not easy the whole thing... Concerning my dreams: I still dream and am have a dream character then. Which after waking up I delight in that, because - what a dream, delivered with dream character believing in it! I also have lucid dreams, and the dream sometimes changes to something more Astral-like when breaking the "story-line" of the lucid dream and for example intensely focusing on my hand, or the grass. It can get as real or more as physical reality. Sometimes I "jump" realms/areas then with the usual techniques. Very real and clear, and no background story. (Not the usual hazy dream with a story one "buys" without reflecting that it doesn't make sense. How did I get here, and where did I park my car.... ) Once met a recently deceased relative. Sometimes I pass from dream realms to infinite causal states (something like infinite darkness suffused with light, totally formless and infinite) to waking states/waking up, which is a fascinating continuity. Also "dying" in a dream and going through these infinite (causal in Wilber language) states, dream again, dying again and so on... An infinite playground. For me, what seasoned Astral Travelers like Jurgen Ziewe write makes sense based on my own limited experiences. And most important: Timless Eternal Infinite Reality, which can also appear as Deep Sleep, is right here, right now, eternally so. "Deep Sleep is right here". True Being. All these dream states, deep sleep, Astral anything, physical life and what not pass "before" or "in it" like a show, a movie. Like Dreams. Concerning his claims of dreams getting less/ceasing: I have run over several statements in the biographies of historical meditators/enlightened ones which align in that the dreams at night get less, and become more lucid and so on. Some never dream or even deep sleep (but remain lucid throughout), like Haari Aalto. Who did this from early years onwards, together with celestial perception, in his case from Karmic influence I believe. His declaring that Astral travels are dreams is technically correct, but everything so to say is a dream. But just because he doesn't experience Astral travels/OBEs doesn't mean that on a relative level these mechanisms don't exist. He just doesn't have them. Also, because of that, it seems he doesn't know how his karmic propensity bundle (stored in a higher dimensional soul) remains or continues. But he doesn't need to, knowing "he" is Infinite Reality is enough. Even a soul is a highly sophisticated illusion/dream-stuff/relative processes/cause effect. There are for sure areas in Infinite Consciousness that don't work or need "soul-mechanisms" and so on. But all of that is dreamt/experienced by One Infinite Reality. And realizing that beyond any possible doubt is the summum bonum. Besides that, there is only illusion of different flavours/mechanisms. So in the end, its all dreams. Some just incoherent dreams at night, then dreams like Astral realms (no background-story like in a dream, not hazy), and then normal eartly life (which is just a highly coherent dream with physical,chemical, biological, cultural/mental laws) and so on. But still a dream. All made out of appearances/dream stuff/suchness. Artem calls that material/physical,but its still just appearance/illusion. Maybe that helps. Selling Water by the River PS: Don't blame me in case Artem (or anybody else for that matter) decides to have a character-hangover, go womanizing, build a cult, take financial advantage or any of the other of the funny (or less than funny) stuff that tends to happen if there are "character-hangovers" and Ken Wilbers wake up, grow up, show up has not been fully implemented. Here is a nice list of stuff that can get f****** up and will get f****** up, also by enlightened ones: https://www.spiritual-integrity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Association-for-Spiritual-Integrity-Code-of-Ethics-for-Organizations-May-23-2024.docx-1.pdf The other side: If every enlightened one would be a saint, I guess it would get boring at some point. So Spirit decided to add that little flavour and spice complexity for the journey back home... Calling "Caveat Emptor" while SELLING Water by the River

Fundamentalist religious people (shadow of stage blue) take end time prophecies that are myth as literal, and self fulfil them into existence to hasten whatever good they are promised from it (coming of a Messiah and the return of Jesus). Many problems come from taking myth that is fiction for a fact that is literal, not realising that the value of fiction is in its functionality, rather than its factuality. Fundamentalists view prophets as the spokespeople of God, rather than the spokesperson on God. As if prophets have a direct hotline to God and lecture us Gods message - when existence is a conversation not a lecture. Prophets are cosmic philosophers, not cosmic commanders. The movie series Dune actually shows quite well how fundamentalists belief in prophecy and prophets are used for political ends and power. That doesn’t deny there were prophets who awakened to certain degrees. It’s just important to remember that they were speaking to and from their own time. Treating them as eternal mouthpieces of God ignores the context, culture and limitations of their era. Forget the military-industrial complex; the power-prophecy-profits complex, which intertwines with religion, is far more dangerous. Daniel Schmachtenberger discusses the concept of “Moloch” as a metaphor for competitive systems that are destructive not due to a deliberate intent to destroy but because of incentives that drive us toward destruction. In the power-prophecy-profits complex, the prophecy element includes an intent to fulfill those prophecies that steer us towards WW3. ** Thanks for providing your life story above to get where you’re coming from.

@Princess Arabia Im one of the most Awakened persons on this site, and i completely understand it all. Brains do not exist. You are the absolute always. There are no brains. You're telling me that I don't understand what's being pointed to? You're obviously either really confused about what's being said, or just don't understand it. It's not for everyone, and most people on this site, about 98% have no fucking clue what's being said.

@Princess Arabia what it really means is you're not Awakened fully. Keep going!

Physical reality is imaginary. Pick up a small object, hold it in your hands, and try to notice that it is imaginary. Higher consciousness/awakened consciousness is required. Take psychedelic amd do the above exercise. Humans consider imagination to only be what happens inside your head. But that is 2nd order imagination. 1st order imagination is the physical world outside your head. The key is to realize that there is no boundary between inside your head and outside your head. So everything is just different orders of imagination. In a dream every part of it is imaginary. The whole dream world is imagination. And so is life. Again, the key is to realize there is no boundary between a dream and life.

Did I ever write that Awakened impersonal Nondual states are not beneficial (and necessary) for realizing True Infinite Being? I wrote that dozen of times. https://www.actualized.org/forum/search/?&q=Awakened&author=Water by the River

Like I said, if you want to really find out, do your own extensive research and reach out to whoever you need to reach out to. I just pointed out some quick snippets through my phone while on the go. I dont have skin in this game. I have already moved on from Rupert Spira due to Leo’s teachings. The cheating was just cherry on top. For me, if a bunch of people in the community, especially staff members and retreat participants reports such stuff, it is something to be taken seriously, instead of just dismissing it, because your guru is so ”conscious and awakened that there is no way he would do such thing”. It’s not like this is some new phenomenon. It’s more common than you think among spiritual and religious gurus. Of course it is.

@Osaid it's easier to say - it's just imaginary. Anything not directly experienced is imaginary. The wonderful thing about this is that imagination IS you. So you ARE the rat. You ARE the chimp. Right now! Lesser consciousness is a figment of current consciousness. But current Consciousness can also go much higher. It's not in an Infinite state right now..but if you've awakened you know it's possible. So why wouldn't lesser Consciousness be possible? Why wouldn't experiencing the level of consciousness of an ant not be possible despite being imaginary right now? Why can't imagination become actual? The truth is nothing is preventing it..so Leo is not wrong here if you think it through.

A scholar inquired, "But is this not the way of nature, Master? Do not all creatures struggle, one against another?" "Nature knows struggle," the Master agreed, "but not hate. The lion does not loathe the gazelle, nor does the oak begrudge the vine its light. It is only man who adds to the struggle the poison of hatred, the madness of greed. We have crafted weapons that could scorch the earth, yet we squabble like children over lines drawn in sand." A young girl, her eyes bright with unshed tears, asked, "Will there never be peace, Master?" And here the Master's face shone, as if lit from within. "Peace will come, little one. Not from treaties inked by the hands of deceivers, but from a great awakening. For even now, in the hearts of men and women in every land, a truth is dawning: that we are all branches of one tree, waves of one sea. The lies that divide us — of race, of creed, of border — are being seen for what they are: shadows cast by our own fears. “As this light spreads, the merchants of war will find their arsenals rusting and their rhetoric falling on deaf ears. The makers of hatred will speak to empty halls. For a people awakened cannot be turned against their own heart, their own flesh. This is why they fear truth above all else, why they darken the air with lies.”

Leo the Blackpiller. On a project called "Actualized". A drama in in five acts. Oh my. Act 1: Narrator: What in my view is genetics/Karma is being psychic, seeing Auras, subtle beings, OBEs, and all that stuff. That can't be trained by normies. One either has it or not. Buuuuut training to rest in nondual awakened states? No. Many had to train a lot to get there (called meditation). Sure, some woke up spontaneously. It is called True Being. Every being has it, or better IS it. There are proven ways to access and stabilize that. Meditation for example. Not for every Karma-variant "delivered", but for many achieveable if training in earnest. Yours truly for sure was not extraordinarily gifted and needed over 10 years to get anywhere near anything nondual. But was lucky using a meditation system that got pleasurable quite soon and enabled racking up the 1000s of hours of cutting off the "I/me/mine-bla-bla" sufficiently (many of that in daily life) to get anywhere near awakened nondual impersonal states. Act 2: Narrator: What can be heard in the last weeks from our respected host are frequent expression of suffering, and also being annoyed by being human. If that attitude is not a dissociation (sick form of non-growth/aborted transcendence) and not an differentiation & integration (healthy form of growth/transcendence in Wilber speech), I don't know what is. Wilber, The Religion of the Future. All ways how transcendence/growth can go wrong, and how one can get addicted to 7th haven realms, and how to avoid and correct these, laid on a platter. And now limiting believes and justifications why one can not practice letting go of the separate-self and shutting it off (aka meditation), because... rationalizations like genetics, prodigies, creativity and artistic and other stuff instead of boring meditation and annoying and what not. https://www.actualized.org/insights/profound-quotes-032 https://www.actualized.org/insights/werewolf-boy Leo Gura: "Exceptionally spiritually gifted people are born just like this werewolf boy. And no amount of spiritual practice will give you their abilities. But because all that happens on the inside, people do not see it. So they end up spending their lives trying to emulate someone who is a genetic freak, and of course they end up disappoint with their lack of results or unhappiness in life. Because a werewolf boy has to live differently than normies. And if you as a normie try to live like werewolf boy, you will not be happy because it is not the right fit. This is why above all else in this work you must be true to yourself, to your genetics. Your destiny is in your genetics. But you need to discover what that means, which is no trivial matter." Narrator: Got blackpilled? Got blackpilled! Act 3: Al Swearengen: "That's what life is one vile task after another. Don't get aggravated then the enemy has you by the short hairs." . WbtR: Sorry my friend. https://actualized.org/insights/profound-quotes-032 Narrator: Profound indeed. The Buddha not-en-vogue-long-dead-probably-never-historicaly-existing-gentleman called it dukha. Unsatisfying. A closet-Buddhist in the making? And so much happiness & compassion that there are even dreams of nondual crocodiles biting fellow expressions of his True Infinite Being. Ken Wilber: "Ken Wilber: The downside comes with people that only use psychedelics or drugs and I found that over the years they just become mean. It's somehow just kind of closes them down it's like you keep doing it and you keep doing it you keep doing it it doesn't quite cause the transformation. It can cause a peak experience but generally not a transformative experience and some people like David Deida will say that in order for altered changes of state to contribute to transformation a permanent transformation it has to be basically endogenous and not a exogenous it has to be has your own source People who do that (Psychedelics) the people that do use both (Meditation and Psychedelics) and use it as a sacrament i think an enormous bit out of it." Posted over a year ago: Act 4: Narrator: So, my proposal would be either to rebrand the thing as spiritual-blackpilled.org instead of actualized.org. Or, as alternative, at least not giving the poor folks consuming all of that uncritically limiting believes just because one highflyer got hung up in the seventh-heaventh-with-you-know-what-substances without a way of getting to that blissful estate sobre and in daily life. Leo, sorry for the rant. I wish you really the best, but that self-defeating blackpilling trend (probably generated by severly missing seaventh-heaventh-bliss - which I can understand), pushing it mostly on genetics and prodigy and what not (I would call that at least a bit "Karma" and not only genetics )... I have to testify against it, because for many that "could make it" that constitutes black-pilling & installing limitting believes. And even if a being does not reach Enlightenment in this life, the soul (relative manifestation, but still appearing/same "reality" as everthing else, lasting longer than one life) will carry the transcendence-propensity generated by simply witnessing the mindstream (aka meditation). Same with compassion. Act 5: WbtR: Actualized? Actualized! Selling the drama (5 acts) "Actualized! by the River & throwing the backpills back into the River where the came from" Music while lowering the curtain:

yes all awakened people live life on the razor's edge of death, blithely and blissfully so, tomorrow has absolutely no relevance whatsoever if it comes good if it doesn't great

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