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So, I actually contemplated these too in a super nonduality rampage. Here are my replies 1) Where do thoughts happen? Why are you feeling them inside your head as sounds? Does it mean they are located in your head? If no, why am I hearing them inside my skull? Are thoughts created from within your identity, so after the perceiver percieve the avatar or are they coming directly from you (the perceiver)? First of all you have to define what a thought is (in a human comprensible way). A thought is a "container" that includes an energetic charge and a content. The content of the thought is added as soon as the energy is perceived and then processed in the form of perception inside of the ego. Each thought therefore contains not only a verbal content, but also a specific energy charge. The energy is exactly the energy coming from consciousness. That is why there are "positive" and "negative" thoughts. By positive and negative we mean the energy charge coming directly from the substrate under the forms (the consciousness). Memories and thoughts SEEM to be separated from the external word. It seems to you they are part of a container called identity (together with the image of your body and many other things). There is an identification with your identity, which has a specific form and specific boundaries. That's why you perceive yourself as separated from the rest of reality. Thoughts are connected to your identity, because for a specific thought to happen, there must be some kind of perceiver who percieves and then transforms the energy as a thought. Because you identify yourself to your identity, thentime you feel that they are "your" thoughts, but they are in reality are just thoughts floating in the void. Therefore, you perceive that sounds are generated by forms, in which you DO NOT identify yourself, because you identify yourself with your "human" ego. If you focus on perceiving from where sounds are coming from (just tip your finger on something), you will notice that those sounds are not really coming from the contact between forms. It SEEMS to you that touching a form with another form causes the sound to happen and that you perceive it, but if you are aware enough, you'll see that what it really happens is that a form is touching another form and then you hear a sound. You as ego add the meaning that touching a form with another form causes the sound to happen. In reality, you'll see that those sounds are perceived out of nothing. They are found in some underground texture layer which lies behind the reality of the forms: the nothingness/consciousness. This means that nothingness is practically creating energy within nothingness which in turn is perceived by identity and channeled under the form of a specific perception inside your ego and perceived in different ways (in the form of sound, smell, thoughts etc.). The thoughts come therefore in the same nothingness where the energy that is perceived as sound, movement, shape etc. is located. They are all generated in real time (in the present moment) and are just floating in the void. This means that there is no difference and separation between your thoughts and external sounds but they are only perceived different due to the degree of separation caused by identifiying yourself in a human ego. 2) Who is then really thinking? The perceiver or the avatar? Thoughts are then NOT created from within your identity, but rather channeled from consciousness INSIDE the ego. The ego interpretes then the energy and percieve it as a thought. So, who is really thinking is the perceiver and NOT the ego. This means you basically have no free will, because the one who is thinking it's not what you believe you are, but rather the perceiver (consciousness). 3) What is the difference between perceiver, perception (awareness) and perceptions (sounds, smells etc.)? Perceiver: the "true" self, the "true" I, the quantum field, consciousness, infinity. It is infinitely full of energy and empty at the same time Perception: Perceiving=being aware. Perception is infinite being. Being = Being aware of itself as a being without forms. Perception can be at the same time finite too, if there is a finite perspective from which is possible to perceive a reality Perceptions (sounds and smells etc): Perceptions are interpretations that take place under finite form (inside the ego) of consciousness energy. They all have precise channels (tactile, visual, auditory, etc.) Perception is something that happens not only in a infinite way, but in a finite form too. If there were no perspective (a form), there could be no perception of reality, because there would be nothing finite through which the infinite can perceive itself in another finite form. So perception is connected to a perspective. You are "the eye" behind your identity (your perspective) and see reality through the lens of your identity (a perspective). There must therefore exist a perspective for perceptions to occur inside a finite reality. Perception itself exist outside the ego and not inside, because it can perceive itself infinitely without limiting itself in a form. This means that perception is an infinite mechanism, but also finite at the same time, because as soon as it percieves reality through an identity, it becomes finite and cannot experience ALL reality, because it's constraining itself under a specific ego and finite form. That's why to experience ALL reality you must die. Because you don't have any finite form anymore. In fact you as a human being, being finite, cannot perceive ALL the infinite but only the finite in an infinite way (plus nondual insights, that are parts of infinity). This means that finite and infinite exist only conceptually and not really. Another thing I discovered is that infinite is infinite not only outside of finite, but inside of finite too. That's why reality is a fractal. A fractal is a finite picture with specific forms where you can zoom in infinitely and obtain the exact same forms from where you started zooming in. 4) Do perceptions (sounds, smells etc.) exist? If yes, where? Yes, they exist in a specific form as soon as they are channeled from Consciousness inside a ego and interpreted (see question 2). 5) Do thoughts exist? If not, why? Same as question 4. 6) Is there a conceptual difference between a thought and the content of a thought? If yes, which one(s)? Nope. The division is only done by you. Another important thing I discovered is that there is a misconception about what forms are. Forms are NOT ONLY things you can see. A form is something finite that's material or not material that can be percieved in ANY way. This means that a sound is a form, a thought is a form, a book is a form, a smell is a form, a picture is a form. They are all forms, because they are finite. Mind is then both the container of finite forms and the mechanism used by consciousness to create a finite reality. So all what's happening is happening within the realms of the mind. On a personale note: I feel I am reaching a breakthrough. Either I am suggesting myself and I made out all these insights or something is happening.

LOL you have to do it this way right? ? I guess you are wrong then (you didn't explain your position anyways you just said go contemplate it) . You tell me who is it that knows and where is the boundaries between the knower and the known? What I'm saying is there is only absolute knowledge which is direct being itself. There is no knowing via duality or a medium of separation. That's what nonduality entails. That's absolute knowledge that cannot be false because it's direct. If we assume separation then all sorts of "how do you REALLY know" nonsense questions start arising which are just based on false assumptions. Aye

All other minds that you think exist are imaginary. Homeless guy is imagination that exists within Direct Experience (DE). There is no different point in eternity. Again. The sandwich, the homeless guy, and everyone who judges are imaginations within Consciousness. Choice is also imaginary because it implies someone who is choosing, which is also duality. When you have non-dual awareness, there are no distinctions between anything. You won’t even have an idea of an earth or your own name because all of that is duality within nonduality. No such thing as objective anything. All you have are first-person appearances in Subjectivity. Who is it that decides whether you are selfish. How do we know that they are right? Another thing to consider is that selfish cannot exist without selfless. If somehow selfishness is able to be found on a tree, it is the selflessness of the tree the allows it to exist. They both define each other. Without selflessness, selfishness loses all of its meaning. But then again, there is no meaning. It doesn’t matter if you are selfish or selfless from Absolute perspective.

@Intraplanetary sit and truly inquire "why there's form rather than formlessness?". Why does consciousness goes out of its way to imagine all these experiences in the first place? Let go of everything you know and hold to be true and sacred. Even all the knowledge and experience you have from non duality. The ultimate answer is TO BE. To understand that deeply you need to inquire this seriously. Then you'll understand why to live and why to play the game at all. Basically, nihilism flowers into existential-nihilism which is really open-ended. Nonduality is beyond that.

I decided to open this topic to share some important insights I got after my last psychedelic trip with you. In this trip I reached for the first time a state of enlightenment. Indeed it was partial and it lasted only few hours (so it was only an experience of enlightenment), but this helped me to get a better understanding about enlightenment, common misconception around it and start pondering Love and other deep metaphyisical concepts. I know I am still at the beginning with my understanding (e.g. in comparison with Leo's teachings) and I still have to chop much wood, but I figured it may help many of you and maybe spark interessant discussions Please share with me your thoughts/correction and your own insights. I hope you enjoy it! 4.1 - Self-Love and Love 4.1.1 - What is love? (baby don’t hertz me, no morse) Everything is Love. We created universes with Love. We created different life forms, planets, stars, physical laws, identities and much. This extreme commitment and care invested in creating something unique and wonderful as the Creation is the most elevate form of Love. True Love knows no moralism or judgment: there is no distinction between good and bad. Think about when you do something spontaneous to help someone in difficulty. You do that as an act of love, without judgment or moralism. The same is valid for the Creation. From a higher perspective even wars, rape, violence, mutilation are forms of Love. In our form, we cannot see them as Love, because we have a moral compass and we judge things with good or bad. This does not mean we have to accept violence, rape and murder. This only means we have to accept these things too and find a way to live better with them. E. g. think about pedophilia. Having desire to have sex with a child is as natural as having sex with a woman with big breasts or with a man with sculpted abs. There will always be pedophiles. On their perspectives they have this desire of having sex with children. It’s not good that children are raped, but we cannot ignore the fact that there are pedophiles. If we shift our perspective to one of love, we can find solution to recognize them and prevent them from committing crimes. E. g. trough virtual reality porn with children, which are actually not armed, because they are fake. 4.1.2 - What is self-love? There are two kinds of Self-Love: 1) Identity-related: You love yourself for the one you are with all the bad things you committed (e. g. cheating, killing, raping, lying etc.). 2) Universe-related: Your sense of self expands to encompass others (even bad things as wars, rape, murder etc.) and the entire universe. This is the biggest and purest form of self-love, because you love everyone and everything unconditionally 4.1.3 - Love is acceptance and surrender Love means accepting reality and renouncing to your personal egoic needs to discover more about Love and to love more. To deepen your self-love, you have to let all go, accept yourself and all the bad things you did (most difficult thing to do) and all the bad things in the world. Are you ready to love that guy who stole your bike, the bullies who bullied you and your abusive mother? 4.1.4 - Love has different degrees There are different degrees of Love: 1) Love for someone: This is usually the one with a high degree of attachment and self-deception 2) Love for something: If you love a thing which isn’t even alive, it’s probable that you’ll develop some kind of attachment to it 3) Passions: Passions are among the purest forms of love. Having passion in what you do is really important in life 4) Universal love: This is the highest and purest form of love. This is bondless, formless, infinite and unconditioned 4.1.5 - Love is limited by your form Your identity (and so your body) are limits to reach universal Love. You have to die to return to Source and thus to the universal Love. You can still reach a high degree of Love when alive by spiritual developing yourself (especially with enlightenment). 4.2 - Religion, authority and direct experience 4.2.1 - Religions are based on authority and not on direct experience Religions are based on a sense of authority paired with dogmatism and not on direct experience. Let’s take Christianity. If you ask a random person, if he had even seen God or had some kind of experience to prove his existence, he will most likely say no. So, he is practically believing in the word of the Pope and in what it’s written in the Bible without having experienced God. If you ask him to prove you the existence of God, he will mostly say, that he exists because it’s written in the Bible and the Bible is word of God. If you ask him, how he can be sure that it was the word of God and if he can prove it to you, he’ll say to look in the bible, thus evading the reply. Many other will resort citing miracles, particular experiences happened to someone or maybe even experiences he had themselves, but no one can actually prove that God exists through his direct experience. Many people have even the false belief, that’s impossible to prove God existence. You can indeed prove that God exist and you can prove what/who is God. God is you and thus everything. It’s not a separate entity who is sitting somewhere in the sky (where exactly? Can you point it to me?). Method of discovering it are through psychedelics, deep meditative states and through self-inquiry. 4.2.2 - God will manifest himself in a way that’s understandable to you There are Christians who had experiences of God, like saints and such. These experiences don’t prove that the biblical God exists. There are other examples of people who experienced Allah or other Deities. The thing is that the Creator (You) manifests itself in a form that’s understandable to you, so if you speak Italian and are catholic, he may talk with you in Italian and will have a big beard and a white tunic. 4.2.3 - The importance of the direct experience Direct experience is king. This means that until you didn’t try something in your direct experience, you cannot express yourself fully on that matter. E.g. if you believe that the world is round only by having read that in scientific books/articles or by reading scientist without actually proving it yourself by observation and such, then you cannot say that the earth is round. This means to rely less on authority (other people, books, articles, videos etc.) and to discover, prove and disprove things by yourself. Remember that even if you take for granted what someone who is an authority to you tells, he will tell you those things due to his perspective and agenda. Don’t be lazy and look out the things for yourself and see if they are true in your experience too. Cultivate some healthy skepticism and don’t take everything for true, but strike a good balance between consolidating wisdom and being open to test it out. 4.2.3 - The paradox of the indian culture Indian culture has a richness of enlightened people and a religion which has many elements of nonduality and advanced spiritual depth. The problem is that the Indian culture is built toward the adoration of deities/gurus and spiritual masters. This means that if a new guru on the mountains pops up, people will swarm to him to learn more about him. If a new master comes up, here are the people who will storm him too. Those people don’t usually want to do the “real” spiritual work needed to reach the depth of these masters and decide to rely on them by seeking comfort, security and a sense of direction in these figures. 4.3 - Enlightenment 4.3.1 - Enlightened people have a high degree of acceptance of the present moment and of the reality Being enlightened means that you realized the true nature of yourself. You are God and not a random person with a name and an identity. We can say that enlightenment happens, because at the end there is no one to enlighten and no one is enlightened. Enlightened “people” have a high degree of acceptance of the present moment and of the reality. They accepted reality for what it is: a dream/an hallucination. For you there is no other reality except the one you see in your direct experience. Do you see another one right now? I don’t. Where is it? There is only one reality. People who are highly enlightened are emotionally detached from their identity and thus from their emotions. There are cases of Zen masters who reached a high degree of enlightenment that didn’t feel any pain even if they were physically mutilated. This happens because they have reached a high degree of detachment. At the end it’s only an arm that is being cut. Nothing to worry about, even because it isn’t real and he himself doesn’t exist. 4.3.2 - Common misconceptions about enlightenment Being enlightened doesn’t mean you are not human anymore and you don’t have to do the laundry. What changes is that you reach the realization of your true Self and become much more detached from your identity. Before and after enlightenment the life goes on and you’ll still have a certain degree of attachment to your identity (there are different degrees of enlightenment). So, it’s possible for an enlightened person to scream, being mad at someone and such, even if it’s less likely to happen. You become much more self-reliant and imperturbable. This means you’ll be a lot less reactive and you’ll notice triggers and monkey chatter as some kind of distant voices. You’ll become much wiser, calm, silent and authentic. One problem of the enlightenment is that people see it as a label and have certain believes about it. This can cause enlightenment wars through masters and gurus: who is enlightened and who is enlightened most? You tend to think you’ll have to do a checklist of things to reach enlightenment. There is a high degree of idealization behind enlightenment. The shift that must occur is seen as gigantic from a not enlightened person and as tiny for an enlightened person. It’s true that an enlightened person is superior to a not enlightened person. This is because he “hacked the game” and has a degree of emotional mastery, wisdom and knowledge that a not enlightened person doesn’t have. This doesn’t mean that an enlightened person is “better” than a not enlightened one. Knowledge is useful a lot, but you don’t need deep metaphysical understanding to be enlightened, but you can navigate better trough the insights with metaphysical and spiritual understanding and reach deeper levels of knowledge. Becoming enlightened is connected to mind your own life more, because you recognize how important and precious your existence is and you don’t want to waste it doing mindless stuff or with wrong people. Some enlightened masters are seen therefore as assholes. You have to keep in mind that enlightened people are still humans AND that their “assholesness” is just a behavior that they had due to having really high standards in their lives and have nothing to do with you. 4.3.3 - Some practical tips to reach enlightenment Detach yourself from your identity and thus abstain from moralism, judgments, speculations, interpretations, emotional triggers, mental chatter (monkey mind) and memories. You must live in the present moment. This is the only thing there is. The sense of time is just an appearance, a mind distortion to create coherence in reality and give you a sense of progression. Avoid massive multitasking and focus on one thing at the time. Practice both active meditation in blocks of time every day (e. g. 30 minutes a day) and mindfulness in your everyday life. Be as much present as possible, trying to avoid distraction, future projections, daydreaming and monkey mind. Focus yourself on experiencing life through direct experience rather than relying on third hand information. Accept reality for what it is and not for what it could be/could have been if. This means practically that you have to accept responsibility for your actions and your word and don’t waste any time saying: “I should have done this or this”. Once it’s done, it’s done. You can only control the present moment. Live in the present. At the end nothing matters. It’s all a game, a simulation, a dream. Don’t take life too seriously. 4.3.4 - The focus-on-the-touch technique to relieve stress and quickly improve presence in the present moment If you feel yourself stressful, you can use the focus-on-the-touch technique to relieve stress and quickly improve presence in the present moment. This technique is really simple: 1) Touch something (e. g. a table surface) 2) Shift your focus to your hands and particularly to the sensation of the surface on your fingertips and on your palm 3) Focus solely on the touch feeling and keep your mind clear You can expand this exercise by using other senses, e.g. hearing or seeing. You can then focus on particular sounds (e. g. you can tap with the pen on your desk) or on watching a light or simply watching your hand. 4.4 - Perspectives and reality (one vs infinite perspectives) 4.4.1 - The mind is NOT in the brain The mind is not in the brain. This is a common materialist misconception that’s derived from the assumption that consciousness = brain cognition ability = can be measured through IQ. In reality mind is a tool that’s used by infinite consciousness to divide itself in finite forms and is not in the brain. The brain IS part of entire consciousness and a subproduct of the mind. Consciousness is infinite and it’s all there is. 4.4.2 - Reality is fluid, there is no one single reality Reality is not a giant immutable block, but a fluid energy field in which forms appear and disappear. It cannot be a single block because of the existence of perspectives. What I mean is that 1 perspective = 1 reality and that each one’s reality is different from the others. To prove this fact let’s take two people: one who is colorblind and one who is not. Let’s bring both people in front of a green pine and ask both which color the pine’s leaves are. The colorblind person will say the color is red and the other one will say it’s green. Who is right? Which perspective/reality is the right one? They are both right! Reality mutate under observation through the colorblind person to perceive the same shared reality in another way. This means that reality is fluid. We can shift this example to other people with different believes. They all perceive their reality in their own unique ways. 4.4.3 - One perspective vs multiple perspective There is an existential dilemma whether there is one single perspective and all other perspectives are imaginary and therefore don’t exist or if they are infinite perspectives. In the first case it means that you are the only living being who is existing and that others are just fruit of imagination. After you died, life will not go on, because you’re the only thing that exist (you = your perspective) and there is no shared reality. In the second case it means that each human/living/not living being has its own perspective and that there is a shared reality. This means there are infinite parallel reality which are deeply interconnected one with each other. After you die, life in the shared reality will go on. You will eventually reincarnate in another thing (reincarnations are a belief, but I feel it’s highly probable that they occur). 4.4.4 - Breathing is not necessary to live During the trip I had much less need to breath. My lunges were full of air, even if I breathed very few for a long time. The idea you have to breath to live is just a belief. The most ethereal and light your ego become, the less attachment to your identity and to your survival needs there is. This has a profound meaning, because many believes we held about our survival are just not true.

@Gesundheit I see this as indicative of the topic. There is arguably no more of a “triggering” topic than understanding nonduality and mental illness. It intrinsically includes the transversing of all that can be said to be disturbing. I see that you see this as about “me” rather than the topic at hand, and I apologize without exemption for anything I said personally offensive to you. That was not at all the intention. There is no experience ‘at my end’ of you being on a ‘lower level’, nor of a me being on a ‘high horse’.

That what you said was criticism had not occurred to me until you mentioned it. Nonduality is not two. How can nonduality be shifted into? This is ‘it’, there is no ‘out of’ not two. This might bring to light a holding of nonduality as apart from something (idk what) else. ‘Ordinary talking’ is nonduality, and is not the ‘other thing’. God is common sense, unless thought makes it otherwise.

That's where nondual awareness comes in. This would be a problem for me if my identity is tied up with this vessel or some entity within this vessel or controlling this vessel. Lol! There is this nonduality trick where your entire experience is happening to nothingness itself. Meaning that you can offer your entire experience to g0d, it's God/Nothingness (beyond the labels) doing everything from this nondual state. Shine light, without fearing, because you are not what it appears. If you were something, then I get why you wouldn't want to get all this negative energy... But negative energy cannot stick to emptiness just like water cannot stick to a lotus. It's all about whether your identity is within the experience, or the empty field surrounding and knowing deeply every experience.

@JontyI completely disagree. I've had massive realizations on cannabis that elevated my consciousness to almost unbearable limits. And I've met many psychonauts that are completely stumped when I bring up nonduality.

Nonduality, neither false nor true. When someone really, really believes in a religion and being a good person as their security, and the belief as their ultimate security beyond death, breaking through is a very intense experience. "The outer self and the inner both are imagined. The obsession of being an ‘I’ needs another obsession with a ‘super-I’ to get cured, as one needs another thorn to remove a thorn, or another poison to neutralize a poison. All assertion calls for a denial, but this is the first step only. The next is to go beyond both." -Nisargadatta Maharaj If you really believed in God then the Devil is your poison. If you believe you are a fragment born into a story and subject to it rather than the author of it and the creator of the story of Christianity itself you must experience the love of the part you unconsciously created that you have resisted. Christianity has become a whole narrative framework, of "I love this supernatural power", "I hate and fear this supernatural power". The resistance to the "other" has to die. Christians are 100% right, meditation invites the Devil in. I would guess that for an athiest "God" would be intellect and "Devil" would be ignorance. Or something like that. Nonduality is a bitch.

"Your Mom" jokes are even funnier after nonduality. Leo isn't kidding about the rewards of this work.

@arlin reality is nondual. It means there isn't two things that exist in reality. There is only just reality happening to reality. But That's also going too far. There is only just fucking THIS. Impossiblely direct. Just THIS. You and a happening is two. You are conscious of reality is two. Illusion and real is two. You and consciousness is two. There is only one thing and THIS is it. Any divisions you think are imaginary. That includes the division between real and imaginary. Between subject and object. Between Leo and your dad. Between right and wrong. Between duality and nonduality. Don't try to use the mind to understand. The mind can just create distinctions. All distinctions are bullshit. Reality is ONE. There is nothing to understand. It all self-understands itself perfectly. Wake up. Wake up.

That's why both "Oneness spiritual people" and dualists have beef with nondualists! Nondualists appear so damn paradoxical to both the monist and the dualist, because it includes both sides of the coin. Mmmmmm I think many of us confuse Nonduality with Monism, me personally I had never even heard about monism before this video I'm not going to lie. Pretty good stuff.

The is one of many definitions of "consciousness". As well, each definition is relative since all words and concepts are relative. Nonduality is "not two". There are two things here 'illusion' and 'real' The definition of "consciousness" you are using does indeed imply separation. You are using a concept you call 'consciousness' as an entity aware of a separate object. Yes, that concept of "conscioiusness" also involves separation There is no end to infinity. Beginning and end is a construct of a human mind. It depends on your definitions of "consciousness" and "ISness" and "illusion". Imagine a definition of "Consciousness is anything I can sense here and now" - then there are no such thing as elephants (I don't sense any elephants here and now). If we define "illusion" as: "Anything I can't sense here and now", then elephants are an illusion. If we define consciousness as "all there is", then we need to define "IS". There are assumptions of "real" and "imaginary". To get grounded, one would not to back up the bus and define "real" and "imaginary". Yet doing so gets very messy since we create category boxes called "real" and "imagined". Upon deep inspection, those boxes crumble and there is a realization that real = imagined - we create things called "real" and "imagined". This gets into areas of ambiguity, uncertainty and paradox. Most minds are very uncomfortable with this and want definitive concrete answers. Other minds are very fluid and love to explore ambiguity, uncertainty, paradox. And we create this as well. It's a loop one cannot escape as long as they are immersed within the inescapable loop they created.

J. Krishnamurti said that there is choice when we choose what car model to buy or what food to order etc. I want to challenge that claim! Because to me a practical choice is still a choice. The difficulty as I see it is when we think of no choice as the opposite of choice. That's duality. And it's even worse than that. Not making a choice is still a choice. And a term such as "choiceless awareness" is at the personal stage taken as meaning being a helpless victim at the mercy of a mechanical and automatic universe. And when such condition happens to a person at the personal stage of development it's called a psychological depersonalization disorder. Is choiceless awareness a psychological disorder? When there is a person experiencing life as happening to them without them having any control, then yes that's a pathological state. It only becomes a healthy state at the transpersonal stage where the individual person is recognized, experienced and actualized as being the whole of existence. Instead of thinking of it in terms of choice or no choice, I will ponder the idea of replacing choice with another process. Choice can be seen as a cause and effect result of past personal and biological conditioning. From the nonduality perspective that's a false belief! Nondual causality is the result of reality as a whole, including both past and future. So choice can instead be seen as a process of increasing complexity.

@Leo Gura - Thanks for your thoughtful response to my question about how to truly know that you are actually God / aren't deceiving yourself. Your response was helpful. I think that directly experiencing total nonduality (via 5meo) and/or having an experience that offers a glimpse of how God created everything (also probably via 5meo again) would definitively settle these questions for me (since experiencing true nonduality/infinity wouldn't leave any room for there to be yet another God behind God, and seeing how God created everything (including itself) would help a lot as well). Conceptually, I do think that nonduality makes sense, and answers these questions. It's just hard to get on board with this concept being the truth while I'm still in human form, since I (James) am such a small sliver of all existence in my current state of consciousness and I don't have access to anything remotely close to the totality of infinity/nonduality. My human experience (so far) has been one of only duality, and I have not yet gotten a glimpse of the rest of nonduality/infinity (which seems like something that I would *HAVE TO* experience to prove that me/God/nonduality/infinity are all truly one inseparable consciousness). But without this direct experience, I have no substantive evidence to support that nonduality is in fact the truth. Thanks again for your input!

One insight Leo presented that I learned from is that reality is nondual. Of course I have been writing about nonduality a lot, but not in relation to conspiracy theories which mostly are about us vs them, the good guys vs the bad guys. The conspiracy theories almost always have a simplistic dualistic perspective. Leo has a good point there. I like QAnon which Leo bashed, and it's true that the Q posts often seem to be a stark us vs them depiction, but notice that the Q posts also mention the importance of what they call 'optics'. I think the term optics here means how things are presented publicly. And that includes the Q posts themselves! My impression is that the Q posts actually are at a transpersonal level or close to it, very advanced stuff, but they also often give the impression of being at low personal stage levels, which I think of as 'optics'. Of course the Q posts are massively pro-Trump, but I find that useful as a contrast to what mainstream media presents. For example Q recently posted a link to this Trump video, and compare that to the picture we get from MSM (well, Fox News excluded of course):

Nonduality doesn't mean plain nothing, it is the unification of everything "In spirituality, nondualism, also called non-duality, means "not two" or "one undivided without a second". Nondualism primarily refers to a mature state of consciousness, in which the dichotomy of I-other is "transcended", and awareness is described as "centerless" and "without dichotomies"." There's a misconception that there is a difference between nothing and everything, that's why I prefer to call it "everything", or the "Self", rather than saying it's nothing or no-self. Denying ONE is not non-duality, is just self-denial which is not always needed to reach a deeper understanding.

but the point has no dimensions!! What I mean is that by saying reality is One (Monism) we are just looking at one of the ways 0 can be seen. That is still not the Ultimate.... That's why Nonduality is a much better way to point, no?

@INIT if you see an animal moving.. How is the thing that you call "movement" and "animal" separate or distinct? Is there an animal out there and a separate entity called movement? You don't see an animal and a movement of an animal.. You see one indivisible phenomenon. The mover is the movement is the object that is moving. When fingers move.. The fingers are the mover.. The fingers are the movement.. The fingers are the objects that is moving. Everything moves itself. It all can be solved by understanding nonduality. Any duality you imagine (mover-movement) is imaginary.

Nonduality = Monism Reality is ONE. And One/Many are identical when seen with absolute consciousness. The chief delusion here is thinking that one vs many are someone inherently different. One vs many is a duality which you must collapse. If things are not-two, they one. And if things are one, they are also many. One = Many You can't have many without one, and you can't have one without many. The problem these sorts of philosophy videos on YT is that they tend to be created by people who don't have direct consciousness of what they are talking about. So they treat these different philosophies in a purely academic sense. But of course Oneness is not a philosophy at all. It's absurd to frame it that way.

Yes. Awakening happened in 2005, and I found Leo 3 years ago. Funny enough...awakening happened before I even studied and read about nonduality and still did not really understand what awakening was (and so I was not seeking it).

LOL the difference is sooo subtle tho. Solipsism means you are alone. Nonduality means YOU are all-one.

Your friend's theory that Hate could also be the ultimate nature of reality also IS. Why are you not loving that? Because its incorrect? It might be incorrect, but it IS. Love it or be hypocritical. But if you're hypocritical, I guess you love that also, cause it also just is. But that takes away the higher ground you stand on when making the statement all is Love. Because what are you really against here? What you are against must be Love if all is Love. gg wp Yes there is something here which has come to mind before... I mean we dont want to do to others what we dont wish done to us... When we see they are the same... But I've thought about many times what stops someone from raping you and at the same time by the nonduality "rule" this is all Love. So the one who rapes and the one who gets raped might not be real outside of time, but within the time story there definitely are some actions and events which are not love and we know what those are - we can feel it- its our morality from within.... So when we talk about concepts that point outside of time like the PEACE THAT PASSETH understanding and the LOVE BEYOND DUALITIES, we cannot really merge those with events that are in time and say "Everything here in time is love and you can just do anything and its luv dunn worry bro"... Because in stories there are always polarities and dualities. Good and bad.... It's the nature of experience/story to have polarities and the nature of the empty self to have no polarity and duality. Lets not mix up the two too much

That's Duality. There is no " experience "going on here. As in a separate experiencer experiencing stuff outside of itself. These are three separate things : the experiencer +the experience +the process of experiencing Nonduality means there is only one unbroken actuality. The experiencer and the experienced are one diffused thing. Look at a piece of paper. You're it. You're not experiencing it. There is no boundaries between you and your experience. You are the experience. You are the entire world. Everything that exists is you. You are omnipresent. From this perspective.. No one is there. Neither you nor other people. Because these are flimsy imaginary boundaries your mind impose on boundless consciousness.