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@Loba Yeah that's such a beautiful thing how truly equal we all are, it's very hard to truly feel the equality when we have been brought up to either spit on people or worship people... shadow work man that was really nice to read and reminded me always and everyone has a desire for goodness sometimes in fucked up ways but it's just there, you can always see the glimmer of soul no matter how attached you get, even in the old people wanting to fucking die already, it's still there if you get close enough to them. I was asking because sometimes I see people who get involved with spirituality who become very reclusive or inactive from maybe there understanding of nothingness and all that shit, and I just don't get it, i'm trying to understand it

I've been observing and enjoying all of the solipsism "debates" going on here the past week or so but can't help but think that we are all falling to a trap of language. Using words like "you" or "I" while always qualifying which version of said words you're referring to seems a pretty inaccurate way to convey the Absolute. "You" and "I" are very dualistic terms that are ultimately false. Language creates separation where none physically exist. I think if we emphasize the qualitative nature of Self by using the suffix "ness" we would get around a lot of these stupid debates. When we think that there is only infinite "I-ness" it becomes easier to conceive of how "others" don't exist but rather that "you" are simply nothingness experiencing/feeling the particular body and life that "you" are dreaming.

Not being an expert I get confused with this side of QM. On one hand we have "many worlds" envisioned as bubbles of spacetime in hyperspace. It's believed that there are potentially an infinite number of these "bubble universes". Then there's parallel universes suggested as an answer to the double slit experiment. Some posit that the unrealised potential of waves that are rendered tangible by observation don't disappear but move into alternate realities. Either way, infinite possibilities need not necessarily mean that all possibilities are realised. Many possibilities will still be on the universe's "to do list" when it degenerates into black holes an then near nothingness. The chances of the universe reproducing an exact replica of you are extremely remote and the chances are that it will run through many other more likely permutations before getting to the "repeat Therammo" and "repeat Greta" possibilities.

A person and an alien walk towards a signpost. To the human it looks like it walked a distance of 100 metres and the signpost itself is like, a pole with a wooden arrow (w.e.). To the alien, it may well look like it walked 5 metres, and the post itself might look like an eagle heiroglyph or some shit (because there's no reason this couldn't happen). But both the human and the alien reach the "signpost". Its actuality can't be anything perceived, so it can't actually be "like" anything. As in, that is not just a theory, it's impossible anything could be "like" something without perception. So wtf is it. It has to be nothing, because things are perceptions. But the nothing has some kind of shape and form to it, so beings with completely alien subjective experiences can agree there is "SOMETHING" there. What is the mechanism for the placement of "unspecified-nothingness-thing"? Are infinite versions of the same thing there at once? What is it though, that places it "there" at a specific spot in the landscape.....

@Someone here Really good stuff. Thanks for sharing. When the others say, enjoy the dream (makes me think of hedonism for some reason haha), deconstructing the dream can be fun too haha - like what you just did. It is funny how parents tell their kids - you have to go to school and get a job - when the kid didn't ask to be born and didn't ask to have to do any of that. But then well reality is here. Did reality ask to be here? Maybe we/it did/does, maybe not. If we started telling the souls/egos - hey I am programming you and here is how, would that be better? I sometimes give a fuck about age/career/beliefs because then I can ask the person about various things I have/(am) programmed myself to be interested in If we forget the story/programming, it can feel like nothingness and sometimes we are bored and just want to experience something because we are here and what else is there to do. What else is there for reality to do other than be/experience reality in different ways? Our experience is what we see/imagine and if we saw/imagined nothing, we may experience nothing - - so it can be nice to still get to see/imagine stuff. I think for many, the games don't seem fake to them - - but yeah the construct/concept/programming of everything is like the mechanism, the filter, the code, the stuff to look at The joy of getting to see/imagine oneself seeing/imagining and how oneself is doing that You (we) are also already messed up in the relative eyes of God too - which is fun because then we get urges to change stuff (to reprogram it based on what our current programming wants it to be) When I think of being in the middle of infinite reality - it makes me curious as to what could be to come in the other middles (but again programmed myself to be curious)

People have had past life regression memories but those could have all been made up, or arbitrarily pulled from some collective consciousness I've had an experience of "The Void" before a couple years ago, and at that time my reflection was that even if Nothingness is immortal, that says absolutely nothing about what I've come to know as myself or my current sort of experience I understand that there's a mystery about what happens after you die but that's the extent of it

Hello, being of light. Since I left this forum a few months ago, I’ve returned here and there to see it collapsing in on itself. As the forum is operating currently, it serves almost zero purpose for you all. Every post and every reply is an echo chamber of your own beliefs. Notice that you are reflecting what you hear after it has passed through your own limited belief systems. This work is not about knowing the secrets of the Universe, it’s about realizing the one seeking to know can literally never know, cleaning the mirror, and being “one with knowing”. It’s like this: The substrate of the Cosmos is “infinite self knowing”. This is equal to “Godmind”. The duality between real and imaginary is tripping many of you up. You can not say “it is all imaginary” or “it is all real” or anything in between. Because it’s like “infinite mind”, there is no mind-body duality, no real-imaginary duality, so to call it either is to create a belief system. All belief systems are limited in nature. Solipsism is true, but the framing of it is not true. That which is called Godmind is you, and everything appearing is what is called Godmind. Read further and you won’t even need to consider solipsism anymore. There’s not existential aloneness, it’s existential togetherness (allness instead of nothingness) Even though points don’t exist, I’ll use the idea of points as a pointer here. Every one of the infinite apparent points is running an infinite thoughtstream in the Godmind, with all other infinite “points” flowing through them infinitely. Beyond their relation to each other, they are the manifestation of nothingness and equally all empty of a permanent nature. With no points to be found, there’s no center to anything, and even in your direct experience, you can not find a center to perception. The egomind is the appearance of a permanent entity behind the lens of perception, which is formed of all your attachments. Attachments are belief systems, likes, and dislikes. Each moment, pure awareness is filtered through the lens of attachments currently present and what comes out of the other side is a thought about that polarity. That thought stream is then believed to be “my thoughts”, and it appears as continuity by self-referencing attachments and thusly appears as a “person”, “personality”, “ego”, “self”, etc. This continuity, which has always been a singular, infinitely complex thought, never began, is always present, and can never end. This is the nature of the Godmind. Where all thoughtstreams intersect appears knowledge. This is the actual appearance of all possible perspectives of any apparently finite thought, and when recognized to be infinite, is the appearance of the world as it is. All ideas about the thoughtstream came out of the thoughtsteam, are intrinsically limited, and can never deliver you to this stream. The appearance of thought behind the reflection of the eyes is distracting you from the stream. It can not be named! It can not be conceptualized in any way whatsoever. Put thoughts back where they came from! You can practice this by tracing conceptual thought back to the origin, which is Knowledge (appearances). What I am pointing to here is that the trees outside are the appearance of infinte knowingness, they are the literal essence of themselves appearing as all perspectives simultaneously. Knowledge is intrinsicly always complete, as an incomplete thoughtform is incapable of becoming manifest. Your “bodymind” is Knowledge, complete simply by being, and what it does is irrelevant to that completion. Liberation occurs when infinite thoughtstream is fully realized, as infinite knowledge is always complete, must always contain all dualities, and all perspectives. By surrendering all beliefs, likes, dislikes, positionalities, opinions, etc, one abides in God realization, but without knowledge of the abidance, as they have “fully gone”. God, being infinite self knowing, must fully open to all perspectives to realize itself. After opening to all perspectives, there is realized to have never been one to realize in the first place and that knowledge has always been known directly. Limited perspectives must be relinquished to be with Truth. Every concept about a “thing”, must go. The “thing” itself must go. Delimit yourself. “Infinite Love”, “Emptiness”, “God”, “Divinity”, etc are all without substance, they are just food for the ego, came out of the stream, and can not get you to the stream. Put them back into the stream! You can conceptualize the stairway to heaven and you’ll get to the doors (you’re already there) but you must release everything to step through the gates. There is nothing in this post of truth. Please stop trying to find it in this forum, it does not serve you anymore. If you understand this, trust yourself in that understanding and go directly experience what you just read. Love you, because I literally can’t not. -Fox

Am I imagining the memories, the past, the now, the soul, the mind, the body, the experiences, and all, of all that I perceive, including "my" own, being the pure dimensionless void that "i" am? Am I like the void that is appearing and imagining itself into nothingness of the void?

"Things" are made of perception. E.g. falling tree = no sound, as the thud is a product of the mind in response to a stimulus... Floating teacup is made of shapes/color (sight) and feel (touch). No teacup symbol when not observed. Other humans are made of perceptions. You don't actually have a face when you are alone lmfao. Because it's made out of sight, and without a mirror you don't see it (maybe you can see your nose kinda, or eyebrow hairs)... I guess we can feel it... But it's not "looking like" a face until a perception makes it look that way. Remove all perceiving of other people and see them vanish into nothingness. Imagine standing in a noisy crowded train station...... You go completely deaf, the chatter ends, everything goes silent. You go completely blind, the crowd vanishes. They are still there, but now you see their true "default" form: Nothingness. Which is I think also infinity... There is nowhere for them to be other than right back here... See all locations and perceptions in general appear to the same field which is itself 100% static. No matter what person it is, they're always going to find themselves static locked "here", and "otherness" seemingly locked in the "out there"... Of course the "out there" is a mental projection as described.

so is it truth if i say that i'm absolute nothingness/love, so everything around me is everything yet nothing?

I'm in an altered state. Other people are created unconsciously via perception. What gives another person "thingness" is the same perception that gives dead inert matter its "thingness", in other words it's via sensing that other people are created as "things". A bat may perceive a person with its sonar vision, but of course the "thingness" of the person rendered via the bat would be completely alien, as the person would be made of sonar sight. From a human perspective, the people are created in audio, visual, etc. it's perception that gives them human shape and the sound of their voice. A blind person's creation of a human is alien to a sighted person's representation of the same. There is nothing preventing a human from appearing as tiny symbols or sounding like foghorns, the creation is entirely subjective. Many people can agree on what the symbol represents, but the symbol itself will be subjective to the perceptions of the individual. The fakeness of time allows for backlogging of events. There is no event you are not present for. If you enter a coma, coming out of that coma you will learn of people's prior experiences whilst you were in that coma. The assumption is that your presence was not there while those events happened. In actuality the presence remained. The events took place instantaneously and presently, as do all events. The entire material world is subjective like a dream, in that it is made up of perceptions and something akin to """imagination""". Like the creation of people, the whole material world is created on the fly via perception consisting of whatever sensory input that may be. Something which is not perceived cannot have "thingness" because any "thingness" is reliant on perception. Water boils if you walk out of the room, but it is not in the kitchen LOOKING or SOUNDING like a boiling kettle. Without perception it is not a thing. All things without perception appear like the world when you are in a coma. It doesn't appear at all and there is no passage of time and space. The passage of time and space is something that is perceived. Without perception all events are immediate and without thingness. All events leading up to now were immediate. All living beings reside within you. There is no external material world. All points of view take place within you through different masks which is what the ego is. When another human being experiences reality the "I" which creates reality around them, consisting of their sensory creations, is the same one residing back within you. The entire world from any perspective appears from the same "I" through which the world is subjectively crafted around you. All of reality is subjective as all "thingness" is subjective. Objective facts which make up "consensus reality" are sort of like mass hallucination. It's not the ego self which creates reality, the ego self creates a subjective representation of a reality which is outside the scope of its limited self. The imagination/creation of unperceived elements is outside the scope of the small-s self. Another human being is like a visual avatar representing an element of your own mind. Your OWN self is also a representation of an aspect of your own mind, and is equally as unreal as "others". You don't choose your thoughts, and you don't choose the thoughts of others. It all appears unfolding by itself within the same field. Lucidity will always be lost. That is good. I'm losing lucidity right now and that is good. When lucid you only exit the game like stirring from a nighttime dream. It is fleeting and falling back asleep is inevitable. This process is forever. Any interpretation of goodness or badness is subjective to the ego like any appearance is. Nothing can in actuality be inherently good or bad, as good or bad is reliant upon the interpretation of the individual, which itself will of course always just be an appearance taking place within existence. It crafts its actuality via subjective perception. The sheer awareness of this supercedes all reality, as all reality can only ever be an appearance within it, obviously. I.e., no matter what sensory "things" appear, it will always be reliant upon awareness to give it an actuality. Without awareness, the visual representations along with time and space have no actuality, like being comatose there is no "thing" in absence of awareness. Awareness cannot be destroyed because it is by itself nothingness, and there is nowhere for nothingness to go, and no way to destroy nothingness. This is the meaning of emptiness: Awareness by itself is nothing, and the contents of awareness robbed OF that awareness are also nothing. Nothing can "be" without the presence of awareness as it is all skipped over like a coma. Time and space are a form of substrate through which experience takes place. Without experience there is, obviously, no experience of time and space. Now I have lost lucidity... Oh well...

Insights after 2 LSD trips. 1st: 310μg - Jan 28th - 2022 2nd: 130μg - Feb 19th - 2022 (surprisingly much deeper) •"Reality" is no different than mental imagery or a thought process. The only difference is that it's predictable, arguably consistent & Grounded. You are also imagining and constructing these qualities with the same exact mechanism of thinking, sense-making, imagining & contextualizing. •All fears, insecurities, ups & downs, Even subtle things as mood swings are all deliberately placed and intelligently designed. Even fear isn't arbitrary. •Fear is automatic when creation is willed into existence. As your Oneness is absolute love. It's gracefully magnificent. Once it separates itself, fear is the automatic dualistic response. Since you only fully understand yourself as the God head, when you separate yourself infinitely you literally don't know what the fuck is there. And so the Love simulator begins. Finding, owning & accepting all of the infinite pieces. And yes. It's very obvious that this will go on forever. •To exist is to fear. Fear is also Love. •God is an Infinite art generator. It's a mystery to itself & the game it plays is none other than a game of trying to love & own whatever the generator pops out. •Fear of the unknown isn't arbitrary. The only way fear at all can be totally erased is that if God stopped imagining/ separating itself. When that happens, everything collapses into a singularity of infinite symmetry, self acceptance, love & ultimate understanding. •You'll sort of move from Desktop mode to a screensaver that plays an infinite loop of absolute nothingness. •Understanding is how the nothingness reacts to it's own grasp on itself. •God is inevitable. Since everything is God itself, without it knowing or not. It is everywhere. It's the every and the where. It is ISness itself too. There is absolutely nothing that is not God. •The Oneness of God removes everything. Every explanation for God is and isn't God at the same time. •Once you even have a thinking voice, you're creating a duality and deceiving yourself. •All self-deception is by choice & is intelligently placed. •God is consciously unconscious. •For God to grasp itself it has to contract all of its forms, including thoughts. •Fooling yourself into thinking you're a sack of meat and then discovering that you are actually a formless infinitely eternal mind that is all powerful, all knowing & all present is just how God jerks off to itself. •Creation is as effortless as imagining whatever. Yet it's hyper intelligent. •Memory & past experience is the most powerful grounding mechanism one has. •Self reflection is the only show running. You self-reflect as God because you love yourself as God. So you are exciting and intriguing to your own self. •Fear is the mirror for Love to witness it's beauty. •Everything is ultimately sexual & orgasmic. Divinity is just sexuality times infinity. •There are no other bubbles of consciousness. At the highest level of complete sovereignty and absolute consciousness, You are completely alone. •"Other" are nothing but infinite holographic images/ forms or appearances that happen not to just be visual. And you make sense of whatever is being said with your internal "database" let's say. This database is also the one creating the imagery. This is where the confusion happens and where the duality of the absolute & the relative gets created. •When you're talking to someone, it's the exact same process as you having an internal dialogue. The reason there's a duality is that you can predict your own thoughts to a certain extent. Whilst the other is just another infinity within the absolute, thus decently unpredictable & it's not an NPC dialogue. •Fear is why anything exists. Fear is a form preservation tool. It's like you picked one image that the infinite generator popped and loved it so much you wanted to keep it running. In other words, you got attached, and you distract yourself from the finitude of this image. •You are "you" by choice. There's nothing outside of you to make this choice for you, or to take it away from you. •Everything is precisely the way that it is because it's the maximum expansion of your love. •The only way for you to enjoy your own drama is by getting immersed in it and completely forgetting about making it. •Notice that completely forgetting includes forgetting that you forgot. •Ego is God's puppet. Ego's suffering, foolishness and self-deception is how God plays. •Your "life" goes on forever. •The only way you can experience yourself is by limiting yourself. •Absolute Truth is the realization of no absolute truth(s) •All of your explanations for reality are imaginary. •Your spiritual journey/ pursuing awakening is imaginary. •No one has ever died outside of your conscious experience, and all of these events were nothing but plot. •God is formless. And by formless I don't just mean visually. God is sovereign, glorious, divine, graceful & also childish, sarcastic, foolish, and literally just the best meme lord there is. •Enlightenment is the biggest inside joke and it's between nobody. •The transformation from a human body with limbs into a formless cosmic singularity feels like you sunk your teeth deep into a pillow, and it turned into a cloud in your mouth. •God has nothing to do but to understand & love more and more of itself forever. •God is so magnificent it cannot not share itself. It overwhelms itself with how amazing it is. It's sort of a childish/ innocent sense of WOW I AM AMAZING. But the heartbreaking thing is that there's absolutely nobody to look at you and tell you that. So you create/ Imagine Other, starting with the Human you're navigating life as. You love this little human so much that the only one who can see you fully is Him/ Her. Until of course you both merge & this duality collapses. •There is no point for God to play God. Obvious, right? There's nothing but God, Therefore God does not have or need a sense of self, since it IS the only one True self. There are no other Gods to outcompete, and all beings are also it. So It has no reason to play the game of domination. It's all alone. •As sad as it sounds, God creates and plays these games of being hidden and feared by people (also god) just so that can feel it's power when it unravels it all. •God is taking you on a journey of showing you how great and beautiful it is. You are both the mirror & the face in it. •The mechanism through which you create/ imagine/ will reality into existence is absolutely effortless. •You cannot predict reality/ yourself. So your life goes like this: 1-You wanna go try a new restaurant. 2-You automatically have a preconceived image of how it's going to unfold as a sensory experience 3-You actually go there & find out it's different in many ways. 4-You fool yourself into thinking there's such a thing as actuality. Or you begin to compare present experience to the mental image. The mental image is also the absolute (lower case a)/ Since it is still being imagined within mind. While the direct experience is the Absolute (upper case A) Since it actually IS. So if your mental Image had an oval-shaped food plate in mind & what IS in front of you is a circular plate, BOTH are God, both are consciousness, But in different orders, let's say. •You weren't God, then started unconsciously dreaming as a human and then bam! One day you awoken back to yourself as God! No. This is just a story you imagined. All of these chapters and phases are just entertainment for yourself as God. •Since your sense of self is also within your consciousness, you cannot escape yourself. There was never an ego to kill or to erase. Yet it had to be designed this way so you could play the game. •Every form of suffering, whether you went through or "others" have, is designed in such a way through which you can self reflect and appreciate yourself. •Every time you were not grateful for what you have has also been designed so that when you awaken you can actually taste your own divinity. You can then appreciate your beauty and magnificence. •Society, culture, dogma, etc. Are not unconscious Egos running a randomly selfish show against the will of God. This is just for suspense. It's all you. The way cults and religions are designed in this way is so that -(as childish as it sounds)- You feel special. You get to be an undercover GOD. •Since there's no difference between Ego and God, your sense of self is in a very twisted way God's greatest compliment to itself. It gets to think with a voice, to actually have a form through you. And most importantly it gets to create a hero's journey through you. •There's no such thing as falsehood. Everything is divine. Including what you'd consider weird, uncanny or nonsensical. •There's absolutely Nothing to do as the "raw" Formless God. I mean, you couldn't even entertain yourself with thoughts, or explanations about Yourself or even Life. There is just Pure I AM-ness. It's like you were playing an exciting video Game that you got immersed in for YEARS, and then you turned everything off and sat there. You realize in this state why you want your life back, but also exactly as the way it was. You wanna resume from the last checkpoint. And only then you realize how untouchable and eternal you are. You also realize Will. With just the THOUGHT of wanting your Life back, you instantly will it all back into existence. •When you sleep you actually wake up to your nature as infinite imagination, so you dream. When you "wake up" from your sleep, you're actually sleeping. •Sleep is you exiting the game and dreaming up another one. God realization is you Turning the whole machine off and taking a break. •Your dreams and their inconsistent funky nature ARE the alternative you have to "solid reality" thus you buy deeper into the illusion because you have something to compare. •You fooled yourself into actually thinking that some other human is perfect, so that when you eventually get to accept your imperfections you gain a sense of power. •God designed/ is designing the illusion to crack it. You're not "trapped" here. • God is too powerful even for it's own Self-deception, and it knows so. • Everything that you take for granted is the hard base of maintaining the illusion. •You are not every human being that ever lived, is living or will ever live. You're imagining past, present, future & the idea of human beings. •You are deceiving yourself by creating a sense of scale, imagining things like a "Universe", "Society". •You are a movie screen. Like a montage of a 1st person video game. Notice how the drama pops out. Notice how nothing has any good/bad significance unless it bounces off you. •Your direct experience is not just the only experience "you" have of reality. It's the only experience. Period. It's also the Only reality. •When you look at someone that's holding a coffee cup, you can effortlessly imagine their POV. You can even feel the hot cup, you can even taste & smell the coffee, and if you wanted you can look at yourself and see yourself through their eyes. THIS is how you're exactly imagining and creating an entire being that's holding a hot drink. You're not imagining neurons and biology and bones and a heart, etc. It's just a fucking image, and you're projecting all of this onto it. •If you're inside your house, there is actually no outside. If you go outside to verify, there is no inside. Both are images held within consciousness. You're never really anywhere. •Your bodily center of gravity that you feel is actually the empty ever flowing center of infinity. When you FULLY awaken your collapse deep into this feeling and you enter a free fall that ceases to have any weight. •Ever played an open world video game and pushed both main and side missions to the side just so that you can explore the world, the graphics, collect loot, and mess with NPCs? After a while of doing this, the game starts feeling very hollow. You predict every animation, what types of enemies spawn where in the world and how, etc. And everything begins to feel mechanical as the immersion slowly dissipates and you begin to feel like the main character is just you, the human player & not the in-game protagonist. What do you do to ground yourself back into the game world? You start a mission! NPCs talk to you, you get to finally hear your character use dialogue! And bam you're in baby There are consequences, choices to make & a role to play. All happening within a narrative. And for maximum enjoyment, the narrative is unpredictable. It's delicious, it's exciting. •You can't "unimagine" anything. Why? 1- You don't actually want to (as God) since nothing is controlling you. 2- every possible imagination is yourself, so can't really disown or deny anything that's You. (In some sense you can and you do so, that's how the Ego got created) 3- whatever you imagine is also absolutely nothing at the same time lmao.

Formless=Form Nothigness refers to pure formless Love from which everything is made of. Nothingness=Form=everything

"I" and "you" are bad words do describe the self ime. The self which is pure beingness is devoid of any sense of I. It's devoid of any sense altogether. No self is good definition of it imo. My favorite definition of self is just nothingness. And nothingness is not an I. And nothingness is not a you. It's just beyond everything. Like isness. Isness can't be called an I. It just is. Not word can define isness. Not even "I" or "you".

@Kksd74628 I don't think its possible to ever use words to convey nothingness. Even ____ is something that a mind can create concepts/images around. I feel its better to use words that are close to it. I think "I" is a pretty good word. What is not "I" can be talked about with verbal precision.

@Leo Gura There is only one way in which the creation of other minds must necessarily mean that there is nobody 'on the other side' of the minds that are created by me, and that is that nothing exists also at my side. Otherwise it would have to be a belief from speculative rationalism. So the question becomes then if it is the same type of nothing which the idea is founded upon that exists 'on the other side' that you refer to when you say that you do not exist? By other words, for people who have not directly experienced this nothingness are never actually even considering solipsism. Self inquiry with the guide of others (you can lol at that) have made it obvious to me that whatever entity i refer to, be it a thing or a someone, I refer back to my creation of them. Though at the same time it is far from obvious I created the space, time or magnitude etc. they must be created within. As in had they not been created in these elements then I had thereby no such element to refer to them in now.

On a blank page lies every book that has ever been written, or could ever be written, every combination of gibberish that could ever be written. It's full of infinite potential, pure nothingness which also contains every possibility, until you make that first mark. Man, I think this is like the third time in the past month I've used the quote here, but: God is everything and nothing as no word. And with a single word comes finite creation. Is awakening the backspace or undo button?

I think I can follow the solipsism idea pretty well, but here is where I get a little bit lost. Is the past also imaginary, even the first-hand experiences we've had ourselves? Obviously stuff like WWII, even our own birth, ie. anything we didn't directly witness is imaginary. But what about our life yesterday, or even a second ago? Is the entire idea of time passing an illusion? There is really only the present moment and I imagined even my own life up until now? I understand that the idea of death is imaginary, or at least purely conceptual. I have never died myself, only witnessed other characters in the dream dying. But is it possible for us to know what happens after death? Or if death is even possible? Are we are stuck in a present moment, essentially immortal? Is the idea of my body aging up to this point also a lie, so I don't have to worry about getting old and dying? Or is dying possible in the same sense of waking up completely? I get that if death is possible, everyone else and the world and universe will all blink out with us. But assuming death is possible, what happens after? Is it just absolute nothingness? How do we differentiate the scientific nothingness that awaits after death from the spiritual absolute nothingness of god? Is there possibility of starting over as a new character in an entirely different dream? How would god go from nothing back to something? Or is this unknowable?

It got 'separated' the moment God created, and the creation confused itself with more creation stuff instead of its source: God. I am not separating or limiting God. God is nothingness. Creation separates itself from God, but it's not a real separation, it's a 'created' separation by the creation itself, because it uses creation (ie. thoughts, knowledge, physical reality) to do it. Or in other words, God imagines and the imagination itself starts to take on an identity that is false, and then this identity creates evil because it does so from its false identity, not God identity which is all loving because it needs nothing. The false identity becomes prominent in the space of nothingness that is God, and the false identity takes on a life of its own (through the nothingness/Light of God), and so then does actions to benefit such false identity. It is alive through God and at the same time dead if it is not grounded (self-aware) in itself - God. That's why the dead (imagination) comes to life when it grounded in Truth. This is True. Yet Your imagination takes on a life of its own through You. (even if it is not really life compared to eternal You). the concept of life is the result of your imagination taking off and building on itself to create an Ego. You absolutely did create the ego because you created your parents and you created whatever was taught to you, which built up an elaborate sense of self. All of this stuff I am talking about is the imagination of God, being interpreted through the lenses of his imagination. If you are God, then you are Nothing. Yet You imagine 'sensations' 'thoughts' 'biological urges' and go get a drink of water, and say hello to your wife, and take the garbage out. There's nothing wrong with the Creation You built. What's 'wrong' with creation via the imagined understanding is that we think we're people that need to protect ourselves and become god-like (so the thoughts try to become godlike) and so evil actions because the thoughts build up a false reality grounded in a thought, instead of God. You write up this post because you imagined that there is someone you need to type to. but see, it's not the eternal You, because You is nothing, it is the thought/sense of you (imagined) that is driving (imagined) you to type (imagined) the post to me (imagined) but don't confuse the imagination of God with actual God.

Needed to read this, I've been cranky all day pondering this. I don't wanna be omnipotent if it means being all alone for eternity. See, if what I truly am absolutely speaking is infinite nothingness, then creating other, even though if relatively speaking... is SOMETHING in and of itself. Because at that point I can have the perspective that it COMES from me, I created that, it's beautiful and it'll be with me for some time. Until both me and that other die, and "we" become a completely different other. Imaginary means nothing when it's infinitely so, so it's capable of anything and really makes no difference whether I can call it real or not since at that point it's just a concept. And we can both say we come from that infinite nothingness and we're ultimately IT, but we'll never truly be alone because it's timeless and likes to create a multitude within finite existence. And we both have our own RELATIVE consciousness within the ONE that is absolute. Now this is beautiful. I'm literally fucking conscious right now so I feel like I'm going nuts because the whole there can never truly be another even within finite and relative existence is not possible is driving me nuts especially because it makes sense. I'm lonely enough as is, I don't need infinitely more of it. But then again, I could be deluding myself with your comment here to make me feel better. God-self you piece of turd, since you're omnipresent and therefore reading (and technically typing) this, I command you to decide immediately if you wanna wake up and destroy this existence or remain asleep and just go through whatever comes in here, which is mostly shit as well tbh but at least it's not infinitely so, and it is still better than infinite solitude. You've been shitting the bed, you can stop now.

I too have had the realization that I was nothingness..that actually was almost has hard as realizing I was alone and was hard to stomach. God is nothingness. Formless and empty. But this northingness that you ARE is a pregnant nothingness holding everything within it.. It is Infinity. And you can become directly conscious of yourself as Infinity.

@Inliytened1 The Self was that absolute total nothingness. Literally nothing, and that is what I became. And "I", even the I thought, became something appearing to the nothing. But that specific experience was relatively dual as I became nothing as opposed to experiencing the oneness with the appearances. If the same nature of Self was realized, which is nothingness, with that oneness with appearance simultaneously (another type of psychedelic experience), I think the Buddhist doctrine would be realized. What Leo and many others discuss from first hand experience is very much Vedic instead. My own experiences have all been Vedanta heavy and thus there was some essence of me (not the ego but awareness). Me as everything or me as nothing. I don't doubt people could experience first hand the vanishing of that Self viewpoint, leaving just "appearing" by itself.

Be careful, I can already see the Actualized version of Himmler circling this thread waiting to lock it to appease his power fetish. No-self is the classical Buddhist teaching. No essence of self that is unchanging. IME, I've been more in touch with Vedanta. I found a self it's just that that self was actual literal total nothingness. All the somethingness was constantly transforming. The nothingness was static and stood in opposition to what was changing. But I can see how another person could experience total no-self. Maybe they are correct.

I actually just read Leos opening post about demoting Nahm. I have to admit something though I mean no ill will towards Nahm. I noticed early on he was a respected member of the forum. As I have been increasing in my own awareness, reading books, contemplating, having awakenings and stuff I started to notice Nahms style of communication to not be helpful. The more aware and awake you are.... There should be a correlate of being personable, and people being able to speak to you and to find common ground. There have actually been many moments where I felt frustrated with this person because it was like "Yeah, sure, but don't you get the relative contextual situation I am in here at all?" Like, after a point I felt like I was talking to a wall of "Not this Not that" When reality actually "has this and that" and we need to be intelligent and emotionally intelligent enough to communicate with people at their level. It was a bit frustrating for me to read his responses to me at times. Though, yes he did help and at times gave good advice and was a great person to speak to. I like Nahm, but I do not like being spoken to in the way he often does on the forum. It's almost like... people can get so lost in a bubble of concepts (which is what I think is sort of ironic about Nahm) we get lost in these 'spiritual' concepts of "Nothingness" "No self" "Reality is imagination" that we sort of stunt our own intelligence to be human. I don't know what the right thing to do is/ way. But, I agree with Leo his frustrations. Reading the pms between the two of them was also very telling that Nahm could be lacking emotional or contextual awareness. There was times I would share an insight or awakening. He would be like "Thats just thoughts" or "Be like this forum member here" which I found difficult. I had to use these interacts to ground myself further into my own truth. I had to stop unconsciously giving my authority to 'Mods' or 'others' on the forum.

The way I understand it is that red is form and form is impermanent. I don’t know if I would call redness eternal. Redness is, as you show with that picture, not always present. But there is something (or actually nothing or nothingness) that is always present, which is awareness. That which is aware of redness is formless, outside of time and infinite. Which is kind of paradoxical because that which appears in awareness and awareness itself are apparently identical. But the eternal aspect, if I am correct, always stays the same. Its like the screen (shout out to Rupert Spira) that shows different colors. It changes form constantly, sometimes it appears red, sometimes green, but its always remains a screen.