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@Marinador No actually, not at all. ? Nonduality means not two, as in the subject & objects, or possessor and possession. Existence = awareness. That’s all that is. No one has it. Some claim they do, apparently.

yup, Quran do it too perfectly, it is impossible that muhammad wrote it himself. It succeeded very well into introducing religion into stage purple/red tribes. It had the vision of creating a religious movement and creating a religious country and it succeeded in doing that. But still, don't expect it to explain higher stages. Nonduality is non existent in Quran. Quran doesn't teach free thinking and open-mindedness, it is basically an indoctrination, which is consistent with stage blue values. Was Muhammad enlightened? I don't know honestly. Yet still you can take some scriptures from Quran and explain them in a nondual manner.

Continuous experience. When you’re saying happiest and most fulfilled, you are referring to feeling. Feeling has never, and will never ‘be’ anywhere. Feeling is not a separate object, an ‘it’, that a you, could ‘get’. In your direct experience, feeling = now, always. Feeling has never been in a past or future. You are looking for what yo in fact can never actually be without. There is absolutely nothing you can do about how you feel. It doesn’t matter what perspectives you choose or what happens in life, it doesn’t matter if you have a life purpose, or pursue or become, enlightened. There is literally nothing you can do about how you feel. If you want to, you can make a dreamboard, discover synchronicity, and nonduality, and also create what you want to experience. But it really doesn’t matter if you do or not.

Ajata Project Nothingness: "Underneath the condition when you are awake and aware, and beneath the condition when you are in bed at night and dreaming, there is the deep-sleep condition. Here, there are no thoughts, there is no “you”, no mind, no relationships, no other, nor world, or universe. There is merely a condition of empty presence, no-thing-ness. Everything, every form, event, etc., is superimposed on this empty presence, by the mind in the waking or dreaming state. But the organism, the body, continues to exist despite these daily reoccurrence of emptiness. This condition in which there is no mind, no thoughts, no forms, and no you, is the “ground” state, your natural state. This empty presence is the condition of the organism before its birth (and its conditioning and the arising of the I-thought), and will be its condition once again upon the death of the form of “your life”. In other words, an organism appears to arise within empty presence, matures, and recedes again into empty presence (similar to the way an electron arises and recedes in the quantum field). The organism knew nothing of existence or nonexistence before birth, and will know nothing after death: “You” will not know that you— or anything else— ever had “existed”. Recognizing the fleeting temporality of “existence” – and that existence will be completely non-existent, in due course— it becomes clear that not anything that you do, think, feel or say has any lasting significance or meaning. (This is the message of the Bhagavad Gita.) All that appears, to the organism, to be done is merely a momentary expression of the field of ever-present beingness—utterly lacking in lasting reality. This is why it is said, in the nondual writings, that “nothing really matters”. It is also why it is said that (as a book about Papaji is titled) “nothing ever happened.” All that we learn in advaita is intending to point our attention to nothingness. (And not its “existence” or “nonexistence”, since where there is nothing, neither of these are applicable.) In other words, the intention of advaita, or nonduality, is to direct us to ajata. And, I would say, a thorough understanding of the former is necessary in order to comprehend the latter. When we come to recognize that, in truth, there is nothing from the start, we understand what is meant when it is said that all that we perceive is simply a dream, an illusion— seemingly superimposed on ever-lasting empty presence. Now, is this information simply an interesting “analysis”, or does this have practical value? Someone recently sent me a book by the Dalai Lama, and I’ll extract a few quotes. All phenomena are empty. Emptiness pervades not only your individual ego or sense of self, but the whole of reality…That emptiness of mind is its ultimate nature, or mode of being. To realize that, is to pierce and see through the deception of ignorance…freedom from ignorance (is called) nirvana… Realizing emptiness is directly related to our quest to purify our mind of afflictive emotions like hatred, anger, and desire…We project onto things a state of “existence”, and a mode of being which is simply not there…. This understanding of emptiness..is one of the principal factors of the true path….For such an insight cuts right through the illusion created by the mis- apprehension of grasping things and events as existing… We realize the emptiness of all phenomena, not just the mind and body of the individual. In my favorite story about Ramana Maharshi, a man came into the room where Ramana held satsang, said he’d written a biography of Ramana and asked permission to read it. Ramana smile and nodded, and the man read his manuscript. It was full of inaccuracies and error: he said that Ramana was married and had children, that he’d been a Socialist before his enlightenment, and on and on. When he finished reading, Ramana smiled and nodded, and the man picked up his manuscript and left. One of Ramana’s disciples cried out, “Master, did you hear what he read? Is any of that real?!” Ramana waved his hand as if taking in the universe, and asked: “Is any of this real?” -- Ajata Project Robert Wolfe

@Someone here what exists "outside" of your consciousness is you, not the human ego. So of course you are a conscious being since everything is consciousness, you're just interacting with different aspects of yourself (similar to when you're dreaming about interacting with other people). But there's no "you" and "others", or "you" and "reality" such as two layers of reality. It's a singular mind split into infinite thought forms, so your existence is stretching to infinity (yes, you this finite questioning mind) to explore the manifested Self. Thinking that you're limited by something external (such as "me" and "other people") limits your absolute perspective. The inside/outside is one field of consciousness, not two layers, basically what nonduality is trying to teach.

Now I have another proposal for modifying the hardcore nonduality teachings who say that things are only apparently happening. The true perspective in my opinion is to say that things have apparently happened in the past. But what is happening now IS happening, not apparently happening. How do I know that I'm not deluding myself? What if there is an actual past separate from the now? My answer to that is that my model is consistent with my actual direct experience. The mainstream view of a past separate from the now is not.

Another simple spiritual teaching is the extreme form of nonduality that people like Tony Parsons and Jim Newman talk about. They even say that nothing is happening. Maybe they mean that no-thing is happening which I would agree with, but it's unclear what they mean. And instead of saying that something is happening they say that something apparently is happening. In my opinion that ironically makes their teaching more complicated than it needs to be. It's more direct to say that no-thing is happening. So there is something happening! It's just that this something is not a thing like some material stuff. The word 'apparently' then becomes redundant.

“Bud” ? There really are no individuals my man. It’s actual. There is no ‘he’ which has a clearer understanding than ‘you’, and ‘you’ are not the individual ‘knower’ of who among ‘other individuals’ has a clearer understanding. There is likewise, not actually an individual, which believes itself to be a reliable source. You - are saying that, and that you are, and that there isn’t that ‘you’, is totally between you and your source, so to speak. Nor is there anyone else’s beliefs at play here - literally just your own. That is textbook projection - telling someone else what they believe. lol. Come on man. This is fundamental deconstruction. The agreeing & being a moderator verbiage only reveals your own perspectives about that subject - you are saying that. There is no & no one understanding nonduality my man, it means not-two (as you know, just a point of relevance to what you said - about ‘me’). “You are not a reliable course in these areas whether you believe you are or not” - again, come on dude. You can’t see that’s all what you are saying? All projection? There isn’t actually an individual ‘here’ ‘stuck in a belief system’, that is the whole ‘thing’ you’re missing! Nonduality! ? ”It takes someone to be completely selfless...” that there is not a ‘separate self’ ‘in the body’ is actual. This nonduality ‘stuff’ is actual! “Someone that is not awake should not be attempting to guide individuals on this section of the forum period” I mean, really?! You might be having an ‘off day’ or something, but come on. Are you even reading what you’re writing? I wish you only the best. If we were sitting together, I’d be the first to open a beer for ya and tell you I love ya, and appreciate all you do. You also can feel free to make whatever accusations about me you desire to, and I hope it is some form of relief.

Every finite symbolic dualistic system will necessarily have self-reference problems that cause contradiction. Because reality is infinite and one, not two. Nonduality forces every dualistic system into contradiction because twoness cannot grasp oneness. See my video about The Metaphysical Implications of Godel's Incompleteness Thereom. All logic and science will forever be incomplete. This has been formally proven by Godel and Tarski.

btw I am in no way claiming that there is nothing to discover or to drop this, I am all for it and I am on this journey. I am playing angel's advocate here and saying something extreme. That The IS US, the GOD you've known as allness, allthatisness, beingness, Everythingness is still not Absolute. Absolute is BEYOND That. The GOD beyond the God. The GOD which can never be KNOWN, even by the God of Awareness. By all means this journey is absolutely fantastic. But lets remove the arrogance from this. The God of unknowing will always remain hidden, even to itself. Absolute is more absolute than the absolute. I cannot know this, but I somehow know this. Might sound jibberish and coming from ignorance, but I have touched something, I have touched the Heart and it says : HUMBLE BOYYY HUMBLE! DONT SAY YOU KNOW. That's a great attitude to have. What if the GOD experienced is just as ignorant as the ignorant person, just on a whole nother level. We are talking locationless and timeless here. There is enough space in the Absolute for a deluded Everything, deluded GOD. No one knows what is meant when we point to this word. lets enjoy this, in both knowing and not knowing. Both duality and nonduality.

Sounds like you may be having similar hookups to Someonehere, so I thought I'd share with you what I shared with him. "Ok to clarify again what I'm saying since you seem to boil down what I'm saying to the field of thought/perception/human consciousness, and as such those capacities are an inherently limiting and couldn't possibly see beyond into what possibly may be? Is this kinda your contention? Because ya, its sometimes good to have healthy skepticism and know your limitations and place so to say. However, in relation to that train of thought, what I'm saying is the fact that thought/perception/human consciousness or just the acknowledgement that comprehension is going on this moment "exist or is taking place" is proof in of itself that "something" is going on no matter what its cosmology or ontology, what ever this mystery is, IS or IS taking place, and its taking place before you even write it down or put it into words, and its obvious because this interaction is going on now (although I am now since we are talking). Its so simple its almost stupid, forget what nonduality, god, consciousness means, thats not what I'm talking about. Im basically saying, I don't know what anything is, but "something" is going on and what ever it is, is going on, like duh. Then if you get the stupid simplicity of that, and are not longer trying to figure out what exactly that may be, simply ask and maybe recognize, could what ever the mystery of whats going on, not be going during the inquiry of doing so, and if no, then whats going on now..... the mystery of what is? Pretty stupidly simple and may seem unimportant, almost like saying salty tastes salty right,...... right.....AMAZING.

Ok to clarify again what I'm saying since you seem to boil down what I'm saying to the field of thought/perception/human consciousness, and as such those capacities are an inherently limiting and couldn't possibly see beyond into what possibly may be? Is this kinda your contention? Because ya, its sometimes good to have healthy skepticism and know your limitations and place so to say. However, in relation to that train of thought, what I'm saying is the fact that thought/perception/human consciousness "exist or are taking place" is proof in of itself that "something" is going on no matter what its cosmology or ontology, what ever this mystery is, IS or IS taking place, and its taking place before you even write it down or put it into words, and its obvious because this interaction is going on now (although I am now since we are talking). Its so simple its almost stupid, forget what nonduality, god, consciousness means, thats not what I'm talking about. Im basically saying, I don't know what anything is, but "something" is going on and what ever it is, is going on, like duh. Then if you get the stupid simplicity of that, and are not longer trying to figure out what exactly that may be, simply ask and maybe recognize, could what ever the mystery of whats going on, not be going during the inquiry of doing so.....?

This topic is mainly for people who already became enlightened or had at least advanced awakenings. I will try to describe what I feel. I made a trip 2 weeks ago where I lived a brief enlightenment experience. In this trip I discovered amongst other things that I can become enlightened even right now, if I want it. I set the intention that I want to get enlightened, because this would help me both in generating a much more meaningful vision/lp (service to others) and both living without pain, self-deceptions, limiting believes, needyness and such. I want to feel myself complete and do a completely new fresh start. Three-four days ago I started then feeling myself almost totally despersonalized. I don't recognize my hands and my body anymore and I have a high state of presence and almost 0 monkey mind. I don't feel love, compassion and such, just blank "apathy", calmness, placidity, neutrality. Everything that's not staring the void/doing nothing/being present is felt to me as a distraction. I have to force myself to eat, work and to do the rest of stuff that's necessary. The apathy and the loss of motivation is not due to depression or such. I don't feel myself depressed at all, but super present, mindless and tranquil. I am doing hours and hours of meditation and self inquiry each day just like that. I am having lucid dreams (both while awake and asleep) and I am living giant enlightenment/nonduality related synchronicites with my best friend (who is also in this forum). I had the last lucid dream this night, where I was totally aware that was a lucid dream. I had all the feelings I have in this world (uditory, tactile etc.). I even pinched my arm in the dream to prove it and said that I would tell my best friend about that dream, as soon as I woked up. I am catching glimpses here and there of nonduality (e. g. everything is in 2d, the perceptor is "glued in" to reality, there are no internal or external worlds, there is only a sense of self made out by a mental construct which encompasses all memories, information, perceptions etc., infinity, what I am and so on). I myself am generating profound nonduality insights about the nature of reality, energy, ego mind and such. I can reach super crazy deep states of relaxation in few minutes, where I almost don't need to breath. I can stop monkey mind in few seconds just by staring at it. Still, I cannot break through and I don't know what's happening. Even if I understood conceptually through sheer direct experience what I am and what it's all about, there is no shift happening. I am feeling myself a bit frustrated. I don't know how to move forward. I am feeling myself a bit demotivated, but I am still persisting. Still, I feel I am near a major breakthrough and I feel I already have the key in my hands, but I cannot insert it in the lock and open the door. Here are my questions: Maybe I don't really want enlightenment and this is all mind trickery or such? What's happening to me and why? Why am I so depersonalized and I cannot move forward? What should I do? Thank you in advance!

My life has no known meaning and I am passionless. I have spent the last year or so of my life doing the best I can do to transform myself for the best. Specifically I have worked more on "practical aspects"(emotional intelligence, meditating and being more proactive) of self improvement than "existential aspects"(like understanding nonduality or metaphysics) and i have reaped enormous benefits. My life has had huge changes obvious to myself and others. I was lazy and eating disgusting unhealthy food all day and acting out angrily to my children, wife, coworkers etc. I now eat healthier than anyone I personally know, workout at least 4 times a week and have better control over my emotions than MOST people I know. But when it comes time to get out of bed it has to be FORCED and not because im tired but because i cant think of a reason to get up. Chasing physical health is becoming my crutch to feel like i have a purpose or goal but I don't. Not even a little bit. At this point of my life, even after all of this improvement, I am just living to die. I just dont know what i want to do. I cant think of a life purpose that would excite me. I have no passion. Seriously ive put considerable thought into this and I'm lost. At this point i wonder if everyone will have a personal purpose. This IS discouraging as much as I wish it wasnt. What now? Just keep swimming?

After reading AH Almaas description that duality couldn't exist without nonduality and that anything nondual exists within nonduality, I had a peak experience. This was in 2015. Being that my capacity as an artist is arrested at the level of a second grader, I chose crayola to create my artistic expression of this. That is ultimately there is only nonduality but within are pockets of dualism. That's Nisargadatta's statement after his enlightenment in the upper right. "Nothing is wrong anymore". Not even my bad art.

@Mikael89 can you say anything or ask any questions without creating a distinction? See now you are creating a duality between duality and nonduality. See you are just spinning the fucking wheels again . You don't get it yet.

Sharing my nondual understanding.. This understanding is in my eyes the pinnacle... You can't get past it..this right here is the end of all questions... So listen up and please try to understand what I'm sharing before just going "neo-advaita trap" on me. Really let this shit in First.. and then go ahead and disagree lol. Nonduality means not two. Reality is not two. This is the only basic fact that I'm gonna use. It's not gonna become not two in the future. It is not two right now. Now you have a trillion and one questions about reality.. Notice that all your questions are nothing but duality. That's what a question is. Asking a question =creating a duality. If you are conscious that reality is one thing.. What the fuck do you ask about? Why do you create imaginary Dualities? . Let's take an example and then apply it to whatever questions you have. Do I exist? There is no answer to this question. Why? Because the question is just duality. And reality is nonduality. I= a duality or a distinction. There is I.. And there is other stuff out there that are not I.. But see there is no such things.. No self and no other.. Just ONE being . Exist= a duality or a distinction. Existence and non-existence. Now you will say there is no such thing as non existence. It's only existence. But see existence is a distinction.. If you make sense of it.. It becomes a distinction. If you mean THIS.. THIS is not existence or non-existence or anything you think it is. This is just fucking this. And you don't know what this is because there is no one separate from this to know this. You get this ? Now apply that to all Dualities.. All questions.. All distinctions. What do you get? You get nothing. You get the present moment. You get just fucking this. You get reality =reality. You get silent. You get I am that I am. Every question is false.. And That's why there are no answers.. Because there is no question. Every item on every question is an illusion. A distinction that isn't real. You can grasp this now.. or you can keep spinning the wheels of the mind until your mind collapses and then you will just grasp this. So why not take the easy route and just grasp it right now? That's it if you fully grasp this you are enlightened. You will understand all of reality in one shot. Not the details ofcourse .... But the details and the you and the understanding will be all happening within this lense.

Ok, interesting, please elaborate on my framing, beliefs creating the situation. It seems that something like mowing the lawn, doing homework (and other forms of effort) is akin to actual (rather than thought/imagination) sensations like migraines and physical pain. It feels as if actual effort is being taken place, that there is some form of doing Ok How To Stop Being A Victim - The #1 Reason You Are Stuck In Life Take responsibility not necessarily blame for everything in your life Who is responsible for your quality of life? Take responsibility for all stuff, even stuff you think is out of your control - Success Easy to take responsbility for Failure Emotions Accidents Circumstances Relationships All Other - How you respond to situations is in your control? - Growth, don't plateau or decay Aim for exponential growth - Victim I'm a little bitch who can't do anything Fighter Reality is harsh, dog eat dog, constant conflict Creator Everything can be accepted or improved upon At Peace Simply existing, everything is just happening with no control Creative energy is flowing through you Responsibility vs. Blaming Responsbility is not blaming/control You have control on Your thinking Your interpretation Your reaction Your actions Your feelings Responsbility is about response Either I will create the circumstances in life I want OR I will fail at creating the circumstances in life I want But I will create the happiness I want ---> Paradigm shift Brain is good at stories, excuses, complaining, whining and blaming To keep you from going out of comfort zone to pursue greater Self-deception, self-sabotage, manipulation You have to trust yourself a lot but also have to not trust yourself at all Excuses always seem to be real, real life Epiphany, realization that you don't have to be a victim No more victim thinking Take control of every area of life Academics Health Career/Finances Romance/Sex Any problem you can decide to take it on as a challenge You control everything Realize and take responsbility "I can take on the challenge" Its fearful because you realize you have to put in work, put in a lot of work, to start thinking radically different Your level of personal development has to be able to overcome certain level problems It takes a large amount of emotional labor and challenge Hard massive action, you have to take massive action It doesn't work for you because your not taking massive action Have role models so you can realize how much of a pussy you are "I only got one life and I have to make it work"?~ Say you know what, fuck the ego "I want results in my life, I want happiness" Take massive action Every angle, direction to find an solution Find some way for it to happen, some way to cope at i Identify this negative self-talk, victim self-talk (and that’s where you need to take massive action in) Not only about working hard but also about working smart (find new techniques or new strategy) Victim phrases "I cant" "Its impossible" "its to hard" "Life is unfair" "I must" "I need to" "I have to" "I should" "I've never done that" Time to learn, that’s why you have a brain "What if I fail" Try again, massive action is required because there will be massive failure "Its (____)'s fault" "I've already tried that" Take massive fucking action and it will be work for you, you need to have persistence, sometimes you need to try 100 times, 1000 times before it works "You massively overestimate how long you have tried stuff" "Never" "Always" "I'll try" "Maybe, I think" "I'm not good enough" "I'm not capable" "Its to much effort" "It just won't work in this situation" "There's not enough time" "I don't have enough money" "______ is holding me back" "That’s all great for young people, but its to late for me" "Its too late" Its never to late "My life situation is such that I can't do it" "Its easy for you" "But how" Do research, role models, books, study, videos, process of trial and error, massive fucking action Until then you have to trust yourself - Full creative authority The quality of your life is only determined by you, your thoughts and your actions - Even if you are a victim, act like a victim, its still your responsbility Its just whether you realize and take control that its your responsbility or try to ignore it How To Stop Being A Victim - Part 2 - What All Victims Fail To Understand - Health Fitness Diet Money Situation Relationships Marriage Children Career Business - A victim thinks the external world is a greater obstacle to him then he is to himself You are the only obstacle Its your mind that is the obstacle If you are lacking any results that could be reasonably attained within reality, your mind is the obstacle, you are the problem If you are a victim, you don't believe me - Levels of understanding Surface Intermediate, Secondary Really Deep Level, Recognize as principle - They don't see all the ramifications, see the possible of self-deception, bullshit and self-sabotage Your own mind is deceiving you - Don't worry about the "external world" Boss holding you back Enemies Business competitors Economy Wife Genetics Not beautiful Upbringing Not confident, etc. Worry about the following Mental filters Attitude Limiting beliefs Judgements Unquestioned assumptions about reality Lack of introspection Visualization Images you run through mind Monkey mind, how it chatters on and on without stop or control Model of reality Emotions and reactions Your thoughts and beliefs about reality Your morality, good and evil Habits that you cultivate or lack their of Self talk, how its out of Consciousness, awareness, how little mindfulness you have Ego, affects of ego to people, "outer world" and to yourself Don't spend to much time worrying about physics rather than psychology - Reality is a projection of your internal world Reality is imagination/thought If you are a victim, part of your internal world or Pyschology You think how you think about the world isn't that insignificant "I have real problems to deal with" - True vs. False Beliefs This is beautifully deceptive, your not going to take time to look at thoughts, beliefs, not going to do introspection Your problems are created by the mind, problems are not things that exist in the external world Problems are features of the mind Its you who attributes meanings to situations in the external world All these things are parameters of your mind, how you hold yourself relative to reality There is no problem without the mind The problem is actively created, sustained and created, mind burns calories Problem is like a creature living in your head It seems like your problems are "outside" but they are all imagination/thought, the mind You have to see ramifications, grasp what is being said Until you recognize you are creating these problems, then you won't be able to let it go These is foundation, preliminary to self-actualization Life will see hostile, unfair, depressing and cruel either in all of life or this specific area Your unconscious, and resisting becoming conscious This is beginning, preliminary, foundational work It becomes impossible, almost impossible for anyone to help you Every avenue of a solution that comes forth will be denied by your mind Your mind is searching for solutions in the wrong place Imagine for a minute that the inner world is all that matters in this life Working on the external world would be useless Stop gullibly believing your mind Your mind is not your friend The self is a tricky bastard Your mind will frame control you Your mind frames everything in life, every situation in life Sets the foundation, parameters, reference point People frame control you Marketings use it to associate things, frame control you They want to make the $100 seem like it isn't really a lot Sleazy marketing technique Look into belief creation, look into belief creation that you go through Humble yourself As soon as you grasp, you will take all this seriously Pyschology, philosophy, contemplation ,meditation ,mindfulness, nonduality, intuition, wisdom and truth The most burning issues, you will become a student to these things Only then can you get the value from the videos You will lose all the value, meat of the video Exercise Select one area in life where you are victim Write all justifications for why you can't change in this area, why its impossible, why its not your fault Identify how the problem identifies seems like an external problem Identify how the problem is actually an internal problem Watch out for justifying the external problem How am I creating the obstacle What am I avoiding by creating this obstacle? What must I believe to be a victim? - Maybe you agree everything in theory is but in practice, when applying to your life you think it is something different, something special - All those problems are victim mentality, all these problems are internal and solvable, they have solutions Stop being arrogant - All problems are interconnected All problems are internal, mind, Pyschology I do see how a lot of the negative experience, suffering was created through thought stories, amplified thought stories. Help me understand how my current framing has created the problem. How do I eliminate this? Is there any way for me to reframe and make everything effortless? (Make homework effortless and pleasant. Make chores effortless and pleasant, etc.) Also, it seems like there is something else than simple thoughts, imagination and beliefs on the situation. Let me know if I am deluded but when mowing the lawn or doing homework it seems there is an actual physical or mental sensation, that is in actuality rather than thought/imagination). Like the straining of doing the tasks is an actual sensation that is unpleasant. This seems even more clear with physical tasks like running, etc. Is the issue of suffering from emotional/mental labor and "sufferable" effort something that can be solved? Can you make everything effortless? Can you make the sensation and experience of effort disappear? How do you not suffer when doing work, labor (uninteresting, dull, boring, "pointless", non-enjoyable, menial sorts of "sufferable" effort)? Or further, how do you not suffer when feeling bored or having actual physical pain or migraines?

I'll give you some, they are in my wish list, I haven't bought them yet. "Interior Castle" by St. Teresa of Avila "Experiencing God Directly: The Way of Christian Nonduality" "The Spiritual Guide" By Michael Molinos

Yeah I would recommend some christian mysticism. Contains some deep level metaphysical stuff. Nonduality definitely not excluded.

The more mainstream nonduality teachers probably have the same message as Tony Parsons but delivered in ways more suitable for larger audiences. I found this new video with Mooji talking about how it takes a lot of energy to be a person and it takes no energy to be oneself, he said. My take on it is that the transpersonal stage removes the friction caused by the personal stage. And that removes the personal effort.

Lets take a step back and make things simple. I see more mindfuck than necessary. Je suis I am The quality of I am is common in all experiences and all people. The masterful Jesus had a message of staying present to the Iam being now. Not that I can be sure, but that's what I gather from my limited understanding of his teachings. When we put i in Jesus we get Jesuis, which translates to I am in french. It appears french has a pretty good pointer. Let the I ( Jesuis) get more known to the I am, by means of directing awareness on the locationless I am, rather than immediately associating the I am with a form that is localized in space and time. Notice how you always associate the I am with a form, even if you've been in nonduality for a long time... Its sometimes a very subtle form of identification with form, but its there. Now Bring some more light ? to the locationless I by staying present to the Je suis in which all forms arise and letting That know itself. I am trying to be most precise and helpful in this, i don't want to confuse anyone. Tell me if you need clarification on this "exercise". Love

From a relative perspective there are things like acceptance and nonacceptance. But notice that from a nondual perspective even acceptance is impossible. The same with surrender. And of course the same with nonsurrender. At the personal stage this is horrible! The whole point of existence at the personal stage is to be able to do things. And the personal stage is a very high level of development compared to animals and plants on the evolutionary scale. The transpersonal stage as I see it must be some form of realization of the impossibility of doing anything. And at the same time the transpersonal stage is a higher level of development so there is more power, more harmony and more capacity for doing things. So the tricky shift necessary then is the realization of non-doership without becoming a victim or a helpless robot (depersonalization disorder). Nonduality teachers, especially the hardcore ones, talk about nobody doing anything. I will take a look at Tony Parsons' latest video to get a sense of what it means to be nothing, which usually sounds nihilistic to us at the personal stage of development.

So, I actually contemplated these too in a super nonduality rampage. Here are my replies 1) Where do thoughts happen? Why are you feeling them inside your head as sounds? Does it mean they are located in your head? If no, why am I hearing them inside my skull? Are thoughts created from within your identity, so after the perceiver percieve the avatar or are they coming directly from you (the perceiver)? First of all you have to define what a thought is (in a human comprensible way). A thought is a "container" that includes an energetic charge and a content. The content of the thought is added as soon as the energy is perceived and then processed in the form of perception inside of the ego. Each thought therefore contains not only a verbal content, but also a specific energy charge. The energy is exactly the energy coming from consciousness. That is why there are "positive" and "negative" thoughts. By positive and negative we mean the energy charge coming directly from the substrate under the forms (the consciousness). Memories and thoughts SEEM to be separated from the external word. It seems to you they are part of a container called identity (together with the image of your body and many other things). There is an identification with your identity, which has a specific form and specific boundaries. That's why you perceive yourself as separated from the rest of reality. Thoughts are connected to your identity, because for a specific thought to happen, there must be some kind of perceiver who percieves and then transforms the energy as a thought. Because you identify yourself to your identity, thentime you feel that they are "your" thoughts, but they are in reality are just thoughts floating in the void. Therefore, you perceive that sounds are generated by forms, in which you DO NOT identify yourself, because you identify yourself with your "human" ego. If you focus on perceiving from where sounds are coming from (just tip your finger on something), you will notice that those sounds are not really coming from the contact between forms. It SEEMS to you that touching a form with another form causes the sound to happen and that you perceive it, but if you are aware enough, you'll see that what it really happens is that a form is touching another form and then you hear a sound. You as ego add the meaning that touching a form with another form causes the sound to happen. In reality, you'll see that those sounds are perceived out of nothing. They are found in some underground texture layer which lies behind the reality of the forms: the nothingness/consciousness. This means that nothingness is practically creating energy within nothingness which in turn is perceived by identity and channeled under the form of a specific perception inside your ego and perceived in different ways (in the form of sound, smell, thoughts etc.). The thoughts come therefore in the same nothingness where the energy that is perceived as sound, movement, shape etc. is located. They are all generated in real time (in the present moment) and are just floating in the void. This means that there is no difference and separation between your thoughts and external sounds but they are only perceived different due to the degree of separation caused by identifiying yourself in a human ego. 2) Who is then really thinking? The perceiver or the avatar? Thoughts are then NOT created from within your identity, but rather channeled from consciousness INSIDE the ego. The ego interpretes then the energy and percieve it as a thought. So, who is really thinking is the perceiver and NOT the ego. This means you basically have no free will, because the one who is thinking it's not what you believe you are, but rather the perceiver (consciousness). 3) What is the difference between perceiver, perception (awareness) and perceptions (sounds, smells etc.)? Perceiver: the "true" self, the "true" I, the quantum field, consciousness, infinity. It is infinitely full of energy and empty at the same time Perception: Perceiving=being aware. Perception is infinite being. Being = Being aware of itself as a being without forms. Perception can be at the same time finite too, if there is a finite perspective from which is possible to perceive a reality Perceptions (sounds and smells etc): Perceptions are interpretations that take place under finite form (inside the ego) of consciousness energy. They all have precise channels (tactile, visual, auditory, etc.) Perception is something that happens not only in a infinite way, but in a finite form too. If there were no perspective (a form), there could be no perception of reality, because there would be nothing finite through which the infinite can perceive itself in another finite form. So perception is connected to a perspective. You are "the eye" behind your identity (your perspective) and see reality through the lens of your identity (a perspective). There must therefore exist a perspective for perceptions to occur inside a finite reality. Perception itself exist outside the ego and not inside, because it can perceive itself infinitely without limiting itself in a form. This means that perception is an infinite mechanism, but also finite at the same time, because as soon as it percieves reality through an identity, it becomes finite and cannot experience ALL reality, because it's constraining itself under a specific ego and finite form. That's why to experience ALL reality you must die. Because you don't have any finite form anymore. In fact you as a human being, being finite, cannot perceive ALL the infinite but only the finite in an infinite way (plus nondual insights, that are parts of infinity). This means that finite and infinite exist only conceptually and not really. Another thing I discovered is that infinite is infinite not only outside of finite, but inside of finite too. That's why reality is a fractal. A fractal is a finite picture with specific forms where you can zoom in infinitely and obtain the exact same forms from where you started zooming in. 4) Do perceptions (sounds, smells etc.) exist? If yes, where? Yes, they exist in a specific form as soon as they are channeled from Consciousness inside a ego and interpreted (see question 2). 5) Do thoughts exist? If not, why? Same as question 4. 6) Is there a conceptual difference between a thought and the content of a thought? If yes, which one(s)? Nope. The division is only done by you. Another important thing I discovered is that there is a misconception about what forms are. Forms are NOT ONLY things you can see. A form is something finite that's material or not material that can be percieved in ANY way. This means that a sound is a form, a thought is a form, a book is a form, a smell is a form, a picture is a form. They are all forms, because they are finite. Mind is then both the container of finite forms and the mechanism used by consciousness to create a finite reality. So all what's happening is happening within the realms of the mind. On a personale note: I feel I am reaching a breakthrough. Either I am suggesting myself and I made out all these insights or something is happening.

LOL you have to do it this way right? ? I guess you are wrong then (you didn't explain your position anyways you just said go contemplate it) . You tell me who is it that knows and where is the boundaries between the knower and the known? What I'm saying is there is only absolute knowledge which is direct being itself. There is no knowing via duality or a medium of separation. That's what nonduality entails. That's absolute knowledge that cannot be false because it's direct. If we assume separation then all sorts of "how do you REALLY know" nonsense questions start arising which are just based on false assumptions. Aye