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I don't mean that they have died to themselves and broke free... I mean they have lost their eternal souls and are dead spiritually... What is the difference externally. We see people who temporarily escaped suffering or are just numb to it... Someone like Frank Yang you can see as a borderline demon possessed guy now totally mellowed out... did he gain peace or rather completely lose his soul ? Is he "enlightened" or just totally dead inside... Is enlightenment spiritual suicide? Is it worth gaining peace now in exchange for your eternal soul being lost? I used to want enlightenment and did all the meditation and psychedelics, however, I've since converted to Catholicism and studying theology now it doesn't seem like a good trade off... to gain the world but lose my soul. I'd rather suffer this life for Christ's sake then give up my soul for a few decades of peace here. Imagine that we are tormented by demons and that they just want to kill you, so you give them your soul to stop the torment. Like a last meal on death row, they may just let up because they already have your soul... who even knows, they might remove your soul from the body and possess it for you. Many times meditating towards enlightenment the sensation of dying or the experience of dying have been profound, but now it's a bit disturbing that if it wasn't for last minute resistance and the grace of God, I could have given up my soul... Regardless of your spiritual views, consider this. Is enlightenment worth losing your eternal soul? May the peace of Christ be with you. God bless.

I didn't mean to attack you, so I apologize for sounding too harsh. I'm really open to many different things and I watch many testimonies of people with unique faculties, so I approached this one with real curiosity. But the story of this man doesn't sound true, despite the confident way he speaks. He didn't mention anything like the astral or other dimensions; he literally claims that he is 17 000 years old in this human body, remaining physically unchanged for thousand of years thanks to the philosopher's stone. He also claims that he was born in Atlantis, that his parents were three times the size of humans, and that he has literally visited Mars. According to his biography, he was an orphan who grew up in the care of social services, he commited crimes as a youngster and he went seven years to prison as an adult for thefts. So this background suggests at least a difficult upbringing. And he commited suicide after running into legal and financial troubles because he had threathened a debtor with a weapon. So, no, I wasn't denying the video before watching it. There are true accounts of paranormal abilities, but nothing in this particular case seems legit.

If it decriminlized supply in a single area. Of course it will. But I am not arguing that: You are trying to rationalise an irrational state and apply fear to it. I’ve seen, met and heard of many people from that life. All my personal experience gave me was experience and focus. There is no amount of fear that will work against a long time heroin user. No amount of loss. Prison doesn’t either, as drugs are rife in prison If you catch them early enough, maybe. I did meet a friend of his who got out of it early and heard about others. I couldn't tell you what the breaking point is, the bottom for a long-time user, I don't think there is one. Its just random luck and random variables. In this small village there was recently a chain of events, overdose – relapse/suicide – murder - suicide, that left four people dead. It's like a constant wound in that person; it doesn’t go away. You can rationalise the supply and production being criminalised, the sale, because that’s a business and it's one that is responsible for a great deal of misery and suffering for money. What you are trying to put fear over is the method someone has chosen to avoid their own personal trauma a lot of the time. Which is essentially a small childish part of themselves. So tell me does locking that up help society? That's the only point to argue at the end of it. If they are not stealing to support it: You might as well lock me up for comfort eating and disappearing into fantasy worlds. My brother just chose a much more difficult painful path to deal with things, and ultimately we both ended up in similar places in life. - Though I would argue, we are different people as a result of me dealing with my past and him avoiding it.

Attachment. You are attached to the contents of your mind because that's how you survive. You are not attached to the survival of others. Questioning yourself forces you to surrender parts of your mind. It's like suicide bit by bit. If you cut off a piece of your brain it hurts. Likewise if you cut off a piece of your mind/self.

Well I was lirerally dead and after some time despite how mich being dead lasted I returned to life euphoric .Maybe Leo doesn't want to confirms it because he is afraid some of these people are nuts and commit suicide. Death is best experience you can have. You are also all knowing not in sense knowing everything but knowing how dream works . You guys are Infinite just not able to realize it because you are pre ocupied with human BS.

This is one of the things that bothered me for a long time after being sexually abused on multiple occasions. This included sex trafficking with my father and his gang, sexual assault, nightmares of being molested by my Uncle, and ultimate my mother teaching me that I am irredeemable bastard who is unworthy of existence. For example, my father seemed proud of the fact that he was offered 600 dollars to have me molested by his drug lord. It was as if he felt special as part of his badass gangster identity for being involved in a gang full of child molesters. I have seen this creepy ass smile multiple times with predators smiling in your face as they violate you. It is like they are trying to minimize what is happening while pretending it is about sexual gratification when really they just like degrading people to make them feel beneath them. These sorts of experiences tend to cause me a lot of cognitive dissonance. It makes me feel even more conflicted about my sexuality while I struggle to comprehend and process these sorts of things. I seem to typically respond to this by withdrawing and isolating myself and not talking to anybody. On top of that these kinds of incidents seem to compound the original trauma in which I became suicidal due to my mother treating me as if I were a sexual predator. It is almost like in some twisted way I deserve this kind of treatment because I repeated the behaviors I was exposed to with my sister when I was six and she was four. I now feel tainted and unclean. It is like I now become hypervigilant about anything about myself which might seem immoral and thus contribute to the sense of dirtiness again. At least I logically understand that sexual abuse is never justice and it never makes anything better, so in that sense nobody deserves this kind of treatment even if I feel like an irredeemable bastard unworthy of life. I do recall that this creepy smile that sexual predators often have are not limited to them, but also narcissistic family systems. My mother and sister are narcissists who often take sadistic pleasure in degrading me and weaponizing my trauma against me. Sometimes they will yell enough at me with their rage attacks to make me cry, and then they will start to give me these apologies while they are still smiling. They will even laugh when I try to take responsibility and use my admissions as tools to degrade me further while keeping approval permanently out of reach. For example, when I was young my mother came to me and told me that I was a bastard. She acted like it was a matter of fact statement because my parents were not married, but really she is a transgression seeker and she likes looking for ways to degrade others under the guise of honesty. The proof of this is that she is also the kind of person who likes to trigger people with the n word as if she is just being honest when really she is looking for ways to transgress and violate others because she finds pleasure in causing harm to others. This kind of behavior reveals her motives when she told me things like I was a bastard and as she weaponized morality against me to make me feel irredeemable and permanently unworthy of love. She likes to use morality to degrade others as well such as when she tries to guilt trip her children, shows disproportionate anger responses, and threatens suicide only to call such things little tiffs. Despite all of these things I constantly made excuses for my mother and father. Instead I believed the things they said about me even though these are the kinds of people who don't value truth and they really should not be trusted. I knew this as a child when I witnessed their criminal activities, but I still internalized what they said about me anyway. If they do not value truth and they prioritize causing harm to others, then this should apply to their judgement of me as well because they are completely wrong about who I am anyway. It seems the common factor between sexual predators and narcissists is that they take a sadistic pleasure in degrading others. It is just that one is through psychological means and the other is through sexual means. I have been working with a trauma therapist. It seems to be causing more insights to emerge around this trauma while I discover that my defense mechanism was intellectual distance. With these defenses falling away I am left with the raw emotional impact of these things. Of course this is accompanied by suicidal thoughts because I have been feeling this way for a long time. It is likely the case that I still do not grasp the full significance of the things that happened to me the weight of these kinds of feelings that have become normalized. I also notice that as I understand and grasp the significance of the things that happened to me, I seem to become more hesitant to approach these kinds of thoughts due to the feelings revealed without the intellectual distance and logic that I typically use to cope with these things by disassociating with my experience. At the same time, I cannot afford to go to the hospital. I have been misdiagnosed with depression when really I likely have bipolar disorder. The pills they game me made my internal state even more chaotic, leading to repeated hospitalizations and medical debt for ineffective treatment that ultimately caused me to lose my job while making me unable to attend college, leaving me with even more debt for no reward. The pills have caused me too much damage and I don't know why I should ever trust doctors when they start throwing pills at me again. What are your thoughts on this?

Camus said the first philosophical question is whether or not to commit suicide. I’ve been thinking about this deeply. From my own perspective I experience life as profoundly painful and alienating — I often feel hatred toward the human condition and wish I’d never been born. Philosophically and ethically, should someone who feels this way but isn’t terminally ill have the right to opt out through legal assisted dying? Should antinatalism be taken more seriously as a policy position? I’m interested in hearing thoughtful perspectives on this rather than platitudes.

There's corruption everywhere. Hamas is a stage purple, homophobic, death to all infidels, Islamic Jihadist suicide cult. I would suggest that Israel is slightly less corrupt and the Jihadist pissed off the wrong guy. The real corruption is that Oct 7th is Putin's birthday and Israel took the bait which was ment to distract from the Ukraine war.

Idk are you hinting at suicide ? Just don't do it. Death ain't a joke .and fuck solipsism btw.

That actually has been empirically studied recently. I'll see if I can track down the study. According to the study there is a decent amount more right-wing political violence. If memory serves, there are roughly twice as many instances of right wing political violence compared to left wing political violence. (I was wrong... there's about 5 times more right wing violence than leftwing violence) But that's only if we're keeping score, of course. And because of the observation of stochastically violence-inducing rhetoric from the far right in its current form over the past 10 years, I think it would be a fair assessment of the sentiment behind a lot of the far right values... which boils down to the suppression and annihilation of the "scapegoated other." And this rhetoric gets more and more normalized in the Overton Window month by month. So, I would be contextually more inclined to see the violent targeting of a leftwing political figure as simply the logical expression of those far right authoritarian values as carried out by violent actors on that side of the aisle who have been inflamed by that rhetoric... which is the ultimate intention of stochastic terrorist rhetoric. I wouldn't see it as an aberration of some rogue actor... but as the intention and the logical conclusion of the popular far right propaganda and rhetoric. It's sort of like how, when Matt Walsh claimed some children's hospital was genitally mutilating small children and forcibly "transing" them... and then the most violent listeners of his went and called in all sorts of bomb threats to that children's hospital. Or like when Alex Jones claimed that the parents of the Sandy Hook shooting victims were paid actors. And the craziest among his viewers went and harassed and threatened violence against them... and one of the fathers even committed suicide because of it. I see that kind of violence as the logical conclusion of that rhetoric... as the rhetoric itself is about inducing a crowd to commit violence. It would be like if a popular rock band refused to play their set until a the crowd murders and dismembers a specific member of the audience. In a crowd of 10,000 probably about 99% of them would refuse and 75% of people would be appalled. But there would be about 100 people in that crowd that would be bee-lining their way to the victim to tear them limb from limb because the band told them to. And then, 25% of people would be secretly or openly glad that those 100 people tore the audience member to pieces... because they really like the band. So, I think it's perfectly fair to say that the intention of the popular far right wing rhetoric is to have the most violent people in the base go into vigilante mode and enact political violence. It's not just a looney toon doing a looney toon thing. The intention is to ignite the looney toons of the base into doing violence. And the left has no such equivalent to that... at least in our current time among popular leftwing pundits and political figures. I'm not saying that it couldn't' happen. But I'm saying that leftwing violence is not normalized or institutionalized in any way. And most far lefties that would be advocating for such things would be pushed back on vehemently by other lefties. So, if some rogue extreme leftie kills a right winger, I'm more likely to chalk it up to perhaps being in a very fringe militant echo chamber that the vast majority of people on the left disagree with. If some rogue extremist righty kills a left winger, I'm going to assume that they're being influenced by extremely popular right wing sentiments that many people on the right agree with but probably wouldn't act on in that way unless they were following orders by someone in power... but would absolutely act on if someone in power allowed them to. I would see it as the logical conclusion of the popular rhetoric... because it is. Edit: I couldn't find the study because the US DOJ scrubbed it from their website after Charlie Kirk was shot... But here's a link that talks about the article and the scrubbing of it... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/justice-department-study-far-right-extremist-violence And here's a quote to share the findings of the study... "The vanished study opened with: “Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”"

GPT: Yes — dolphins can experience something very much like depression. While it’s hard to measure their inner emotional states the same way we do in humans, there’s strong scientific and observational evidence that dolphins are capable of complex emotions, including sadness, grief, and even depressive-like behavior. Why Scientists Think Dolphins Can Get Depressed Complex Brains Dolphins have large, highly developed brains with structures linked to emotion and social bonding (like the limbic system). Their intelligence and self-awareness (they recognize themselves in mirrors) make them more vulnerable to psychological stress. Behavior in Captivity Dolphins in aquariums or marine parks sometimes show signs similar to depression: Lethargy (floating listlessly, lack of play) Loss of appetite Self-harm behaviors (e.g., ramming walls) Some researchers suggest that confined, unstimulating environments lead to stress and mental decline. Grief & Mourning Wild dolphins have been observed carrying and guarding the bodies of dead calves for days — interpreted as mourning. Social animals that form deep bonds are more prone to psychological suffering when those bonds break. Voluntary Breathing & Suicide Debate Dolphins must consciously breathe (unlike humans, where it’s automatic). Some trainers and scientists have reported dolphins refusing to surface, effectively suffocating themselves — described as a possible form of suicide linked to depression or trauma. This idea is debated, but it highlights how unusual their biology is compared to ours. ✅ Conclusion: While we can’t diagnose dolphins with human depression, there’s good evidence that they do experience depressive-like states, especially in captivity or after trauma. In the wild, their social lives and mental stimulation seem to protect them better.

I don't touch this subject much because it's so sensitive and i have to be careful not to hit some nerves but as far as suicidal thoughts, they're just thoughts like every other thought. I will guarantee you that every single human on the face of the earth will have suicidal thoughts in their lifetime. Guaranteed. Some may have them more frequently, some may be more intense, all depends just as how other thoughts are. You may be walking down the road and a crazy thought appear of strangling the woman walking by, or kissing that cute girl up the street or eating a banana or about your mother or a student in math class, or a red car, or a forest fire, or how broke you are, or your brother, or a video game, or about watching porn, or the government......or suicide. Walking down the street again tomorrow or making breakfast....same thing, thoughts about everything under the sun then one on suicide. The next hr more thoughts(mind you, thoughts are always arising your entire life for years on end), a thought about tap water, about concrete, about the old lady next door, about sushi.....bing, about suicide. Why not. Everything else under the sun, why not that. Do we pay attention to all the 60, 000 thoughts we have a day; does every thought require your attention, no but suicidal ones do and are taken seriously than about the spider in the attic. Now we are suicidal. Imo leave this here.

I am very grateful that I am mostly healthy and able to ejoy life in the present moment. However, sometimes I do get sick or a headache and I wonder, damn, how are the people that feel like this 24/7 able to live? Why wouldn't they just end it and hope for a better reincarnation? Especially if one has already awakened to his true nature that as eternal and infinite.

Yes . I'm of course aware of the multidimensional nature of suicide . It's not just that people believe life is pointless. Some people are suicidal because they have chronic diseases or disorders or unbearable physical pain. And I'm sorry that I didn't cover this point in my post ..because I don't have an experience with this so I chose to refrain from addressing this kind of situations that could make a person wants to kill himself/herself. Thanks for your comment .

Can't say for exactly the topic suicide, but what resonates is the "You can't BS them .these melodramas and self-help platitudes won't work on them" Something sucks? yeah, it sucks. Let's recognize this, and then we can move on.

I've been watching Leo's prerequisite videos for conscious politics and am hoping to run for a local office or voulenteer for one but wasn't really sure how/where to start. I have struggled with subatance abuse and sucicdal thoughts and I want to get involved with these issues. I would love any/all feedback

There’s something deeply twisted in the social expectation that men should surrender themselves in relationships — to yield their sovereignty, to cater, to open themselves up to a stranger and call it love. I’m not talking about partnership built on mutual power. I’m talking about the modern conditioning that frames male fulfillment as the act of giving up the very core of what makes him independent — his throne, his command post, his edge. Look closely. The word surrender is often wrapped in romance — “sweet surrender,” from man and who is to receive the special treatments and privileges as "serenade"? Women are on the receiving end of that a man surrender of resources, time, status, and sovereignty to be approved by a woman sexually. Who gets the luxury of receiving the surrendered masculine? It’s not him. It’s often someone who hasn’t earned that place — a stranger who isn’t stronger, wiser, or more spiritually advanced than him. Why should a man surrender to someone than himself — just because society has baked it into the script of dating and intimacy? It’s not noble. It’s not divine. It’s survival suicide. You’re literally training your nervous system to prioritize the survival of another over your own — and that’s not romantic, it’s pathological. Sovereignty isn’t coldness. It’s clarity. It’s the refusal to give your energy to a system that benefits from your collapse. If you’re not building your kingdom — spiritual, mental, physical — you’re being asked to decorate someone else’s. For me, the deeper I go into sovereignty, the more allergic I become to emotional contracts disguised as spiritual growth. If a woman expects me to give up my edge to make her feel safe, I’m out. That doesn’t mean I’m incapable of love. It means I value self-respect over validation, clarity over codependence, and spiritual autonomy over social conformity

Leo says that people who are not “awake” are unhappy. Is that true? If it is, why? And since, there’s no free will, why would God let billions of people be unhappy — would that make God a sadist? Most people are miserable, but I’ve also seen non-spiritual people who seem content, especially those with a good solid position on the social pyramid. Any thoughts? If people didn't find any happiness, there would be a lot more suicide going on. Peter Ralston says that even normal people can be happy, if they work. Many normies derive happiness from simply working and then meeting their basic needs. Also what about children? They seem quite happy too, even though they are not awake.

Two lynchings in Mississippi yesterday, not a peep on here from the progressives consumed with sympathy for Kirk and MAGA. One homeless man, after fox news calls for their murder. Don't call fox news nazis though! https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/trey-reed-death-is-racial-murder-or-suicide-ask-social-media-users-21-year-old-student-found-hanging-from-a-tree-delta-state-university-tragedy-in-mississippi-no-foul-play-cleveland-police-department-investigators/articleshow/123923844.cms https://vicksburgnews.com/man-found-hanging-from-tree-in-vicksburg-identified/

I fucking told you Leo. I warned you of the threat of the extreme right and you brushed me off as “not being committed to the truth.” Well “the truth” just shot Charlie Kirk through the jugular for not being hateful to Jews and blacks enough. Fascism is an ideological cancer. It’s pure brainrot. It’s a suicide cult, and a pure corrosive force on democratic politics. There is no “debating” or “reasoning” your way out of it. You kill it in its crib, because otherwise things like this happen. And Trump has coddled them the entire time. When I say “Trump is a fascist”, it’s because he’s a fascist - he courts the Nick Fuentes and Stephen Millers and Steve Bannons of the world to hold onto power. It doesn’t matter if he, personally, doesn’t hate black people as much as they do. The fact that hes willing to use them in the first place is enough to prove he’s compromised. He has to go.

The Scandinavian right is generally quiet libertarian in my opinion. They justification for cutting wealth taxes in text book trickle-down economics. Trickle-down economics is just a rationalization for widening the wealth gap. More resources to lower/middle-class people does in fact create a prosperous society overall. The thing is, being outwardly libertarian is political suicide in Scandinavia due to a legacy of economic/social solidarity and welfare. So what this libertarians do is that they adopt a socialist mask to not alarm voters too much, then they work to slowly erode the welfare state, boiling frog style. Prime example is with the Social democrats here in Denmark, who have recently been cutting on education (in a knowledge based economy). Libertarians with a socialist mask. I can't think of a more obnoxious combo.

@cistanche_enjoyer so you can check out my Instagram for more about me and my walk with Jesus. There’s basically a lot to say. I started pursuing him with an open heart a few months ago as a last ditch effort to solve a spiritual problem that started developing after several ayahuasca ceremonies. I was encountering a lot of darkness. And yeah he literally just saved me. Like one day was normal the next I was crying, so in love with him and everything he did on the cross for me. I turned into a Jesus freak literally overnight. I had a problem of idealizing suicide and bad depression even after years of spiritual work and trying to heal. Things would get better for a bit but then would get much worse and I would become more and more hopeless about life as time went on. All that was eradicated o v e r n i g h t. Like I wish I was making this up because then you guys would probably believe me lol but nope. It was Jesus. And yeah now as I keep drawing closer to him my life continues to come together in all the ways I wanted it too in the 15 years I was on the spiritual path but could never seem to get right no matter how much stuff I did. Laziness, addictions, self worth and confidence issues are all being healed.

Yes, they began first building illegal settlements as early as 1967. The West Bank Palestinians were so passive they took the abuse with barely a reaction for decades, finally there was a reaction with the first intifada which israel responded with far more violence. Then when israel still refused to truly engage in peace instead using lies and games to make it seem like the Palestinians were the rejectionists to push for endless occupation did the suicide bombings happen.

Why do you think Israel deepened its hold in the West Bank in 2002? And why it took it years of suicide bombing inside its cities to decide to finally do so? Do you think Israel wanted or enjoyed it? Don't look at this so dichotomically.

Yet when they forcibly removed Israeli's from Gush Katif and gave it to the Gazans that's when Hamas took over and ever since then all they've been getting is rockets, suicide bombers, and more people coming in to murder them. So let's say Israel withdraws all it's settlements from the West Bank another terrorist group gets voted in and the Palestinians want to finish the job they started by totally wanting to wipe out Jews from the entire area. Will that make you happy then? Is Israel finally the good guy after that? The removal of Gush Katif Israeli military actually came in to remove Israelis from the area. The thanks that they got were more bombs rockets murder and killing.