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Have you awakened to nothingness? If you have not then you will not understand the point I am making. The closest I can get to proving an example is remember that time when you went into DEEP SLEEP and were no longer aware of your existence? That is what the substance of reality is made of. It's literally made up of that which does not exist. This is what is meant by you do not exist, your true nature is never affected by the world because the world cannot touch it. Your ego gives you the illusion of physicality. Everything is just pure imagination, until you become aware that everything is pure imagination which is literally nothing then you will always be confused about whether something can exist without. NOTHING can exist without you it's literally impossible and how you accomplish that impossibility is you tell yourself you are a human.

Yes, but True understanding is not of the mind. It is the clarity that shines when the mind is still (no thoughts, no experience or experiencer,. realize or realizer). Seek the source of the ‘I’, and this clarity will reveal itself, not as something gained, but as what has always been present. As I said before in other topic: The realization of “nothingness, infinite, god or etc...” still carries the subtle sense of an “I” who dissolves into it, an experience that comes and goes. But to truly be nothing, or to be nothingness itself, is not an experience at all. It is simply not knowing in the mind’s terms, and simply Being in Truth. Why would you need to experience what you already are? Experience implies time, change, and an experiencer. Being is timeless, changeless, without a second. It does not come through effort, but by resting as That which is always present.

Seems like a limiting take on reality.. to say reality is ONLY a thing, excludes a whole host of manifestations reality could take.. to be ONLY a thing Also note that it’s possible that your understanding of nothing can be largely conceptual, based on ideas, assumptions and beliefs. Do you really know what nothingness is? How would we know that you know? How would you know what we know? There is a lot being taken for granted. Solipsism is primarily a conceptual notion in the human mind. Our existence cannot be validated by anything outside of it, but we constantly make appeals to authority in an effort to find something out about why we exists as we do without the hard work of contemplation to gain insight into the nature of our existence. Humans have constructed the idea of solipsism and applied many negative connotations to it as a distraction to investigating what is True.

Hey, you can laugh - just allow yourself to feel emotions, or anything else for that matter. Possibly "deluded" in that you take your view of the struggle as an unquestionable fact or condition. A good story doesn't feel made up, nor does it look like a story but as "the way things are." Why would emptiness and nothingness be negative, or resisted? They're likely misunderstood as well. Even if you mean them differently, we already live as if we were empty at our core. It's a consequence of confusing Being with self (we take the latter to be our nature.) The overly-simplified version is this: the self is already empty by its nature. Recognized for what it is, this is neither negative nor positive - just the case. It is seen as a natural and universally-shared condition. You need to become increasingly clear on what's what in your experience. How the mind is used determines and influences your experience - state, focus, level of satisfaction, the ability to feel anything and how it is felt, the likelihood of getting depressed and enthusiastic, and so on. For example, with enough work, I could make myself suffer a similar way by concocting, in my mind, a similar "condition" as yours - and by taking it seriously (assuming there isn't a physiological issue going on.) Nothing objective would have changed. My body would be just fine - the difference being what I do with my mind. We can see, then, that this is far from being a simplistic and superficial matter. The moment you assess some experience as negative, the possibility of a "positive" experience arises with it. It's not that you experience both negative and positive things at the same time - necessarily. The distinction "negative" exists thanks to "positive," and vice versa. It's an existential point. It might seem like you are describing your experience, but how can we get even clearer on what's experienced and what's conceptualized? Heck, even the sense of self may be conceptual, even though we regard it as a 'sense,' and yet, it seems solid and real, does it not? If even the sense of self was conceptual from the beginning, suffering its dissolution, partial or otherwise, was also based on figments of mind! You, and your experience, have always been complete in themselves. The task is learning to use the mind in a functional and healthy way - which usually includes shutting it off and being grounded in one's body. So, enough minding for you.

In our everyday life we really don't think of things being nothing. We live in the dream in which there are atoms and electrons. So that's what I am made of. Atoms. However, should I probe deep enough or awaken i can realize that I can zoom into my hand forever. But we don't go about our normal day with this in mind otherwise it would really make things difficult to function. On that note if I probed deep enough I would probe myself out of existence. The ego doesn't want this and really has a disdain for nothingness. It desperately wants to be something.

@Razard86 Ok yes that makes sense, thanks. But I hope this is not an on or off switch. I hope it is possible to gradually smoothly become nothingness. How have you reached nothingness?

When something is seen as nothing, truly seen as nothing you literally cannot unsee it if you tried. The ego is afraid of nothing because it thinks its something bad. Whenever you go into deep sleep and wake up its the same as death basically. Well most people believe that when someone shoots them they will disappear into nothingness forever and never have an experience again. This is why they cling onto somethingness so bad. What is missed is, something=limitation. Nothing= No limitation. What a human desires the most is actually to be nothing, but due to ignorance they think its bad. Without realizing your nothingness you actually limit your connection. Instead of watching a movie...wouldn't you like to BECOME THE MOVIE? Instead of playing video games wouldn't you rather BECOME the video game? The realization of nothing opens up your experience and makes it MORE intimate. Why? Because TRUE LOVE=NOTHING. FAKE LOVE= SOMETHING. FAKE LOVE= Subject Object Relationship. TRUE LOVE= Everything. Do you know how great it is to become NOTHING? It's so good it is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. Once you realize Nothingness you want to share it with EVERYONE. The solution to creating world peace is NOTHING. The solution to all problems is NOTHING. To the extent there is separation from NOTHING is the extent that there are problems. When nothingness is properly recognized for what it is as the only real connection that exists is when TRUE LOVE springs forth. True Love is the only reason I repeat myself on here at all because I sincerely want you all to awaken to the wonderful magnitude of NOTHING and yes I hope you don't have any bad trips along the way.

I haven’t gotten diagnosis as of yet for the physical. When I tell the doctors about the mental aspect they consider it a “delusion” so they put me on anti psychotics, which didn’t help In my journey of partial self dissolution, every time a layer to my self would dissolve, it felt freeing and I got more happy/peaceful. But it was temporary Towards the end, it started to rather feel like I was approaching a kind of nothingness, which is the emptiness I’ve described Problems I had in the past , such as social anxiety, existential anxiety, self image issues, all vanished the more my self weakened. So yes you and the spiritual people are right, it is freeing But mostly in spirituality they talk about complete self dissolution, and it’s described as positive sometimes (although some describe a nothingness too) Partial and full self dissolution are two different things, they don’t really talk about how it is to partially dissolve then being stuck in that state. It’s a different matter I plan on starting to exercise more soon, and going back to eating really healthy. I don’t know if I wanna do meditation tho lol .So I will see how that goes. I do think there is a neurological component. Like attention, the mind, awareness can and has changed something neurologically- seems possible. Dissolution of self seems to have neurological component (as you see I haven’t dropped the dissolution concept😂) I agree there’s two kind of self awareness. One which is just pure awareness of the internal. And another that is a self centered focus and concern for the self image. I find I have a lot of both. So yes I’m full of myself, but not only that I still don’t understand how negative and positive emotion arise simultaneously, do you mean that someone can’t be JUST happy for a moment? Like there’s always a negativity in the background of that? It’s ok if you find me impossible to talk to because I keep returning to the same description. To me it’s just me describing my experience

@Razard86 Knowing is biggest illusion Mr. İnfinite intellect 😊 İf Truth come knowing or experiencing, it can come in this forum to everyone who use psychedelics or reading a book 😊 Don't you guys still can not get it? 😊 Of course "you" can not get it. 😊 The realization of “nothingness” still carries the subtle sense of an “I” who dissolves into it, an experience that comes and goes. But to truly be nothing, or to be nothingness itself, is not an experience at all. It is simply not knowing in the mind’s terms, and simply Being in Truth. 😊 Why would you need to experience what you already are? 😊 Experience implies time, change, and an experiencer. Being is timeless, changeless, without a second. It does not come through effort, but by resting as That which is always present. 😊 Mind is so fucking tricky so funny 🤣 🤣 🤣 I fucking love you guys 😊

Whether I name it as nothing or not does not matter because EVERYTHING is nothing. It cannot be divided!!! You are literally creating a division right now!!! Your biggest issue that blocks you is you presume to know it all. You lack humility. For example you literally deny the existence of God and evidence of God is literally all around you. Creation, existence is INFINITE INTELLIGENCE. If you don't like the name God you can use the name Infinite Intelligence. Also your biggest irony is you criticize the use of language, claimed you were going to leave Actualized.org then you returned and you keep using language. Don't you see how deceived you are? What you need to do is to take a break and sort yourself out if you want to make anymore Spiritual progress. Also there is a YOU in deep sleep, if there wasn't a YOU in deep sleep you couldn't remember it. The YOU is invisible. You think a YOU has to be visible to be a YOU. Right now your physical organs are invisible because you cannot see them or feel them (unless you have raised your awareness to full body awareness) and that doesn't make them any less YOU. Right now events are happening around you and you don't have to see them or perceive them for them to be YOU. Your issue is your allowing your finite mind to place a limitation on what YOU is. Selflessness is still a YOU. It's what is called a null identity. Which means it is an identity of no identity. If nothingness wasn't an identity, it couldn't create one. So it is still an identity it is just an identity that lacks awareness of itself. God has two extremes it can be completely aware of itself at the highest level, or it can be completely asleep and have no awareness of itself. For example a doorknob has no awareness of itself unless you as God give it that awareness by accepting it as a part of you. But if you deny that a doorknob is you, then it lacks self awareness as a doorknob. Even then your awareness of the doorknob is limited unless you awaken to all the inner energetic inner workings of it.

Its the biggest trap, because a community like this is so rare you can find yourself here for months without doing any real spiritual practice if you aren't careful. Also there are too many people who lack the proper foundation making threads masquerading as if they know what they are talking about. I mean there are people claiming to be enlightened on here who don't even know what nothingness is. In fact I think it's the biggest form of ignorance on these forum what nothingness is.

It existed as nothingness. You don't seem to understand what nothingness is. So I'll tell you. Nothingness is completely invisible. Notice how before your human life there was NOTHING. Deep sleep the dreamless dream= NOTHING Notice how deep sleep is COMPLETELY IDENTICAL to BEFORE your human life. So your true identity is NOTHING!! That is completely formless. THIS is why there is NO OTHER. This is why they say NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. THIS is why it cannot be divided. AND this is why EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IS YOU!

Being isn't prior to formlessness because being is formlessness. Solipsism isn't a thought it is a realization that there is only Being. It is the realization that everything is Nothingness and thus nothing can be divided as such there is only ONE CONSCIOUS entity here and that will eternally be the case. There are no other minds or beings here, everything is just a singularity.

There is ONLY nothingness. There has never been something ever. Something is really NOTHING. You cannot divide nothing. All division is just an illusion. There is only ONENESS you just haven't become aware of that. You aren't even really human, you are just pure awareness fooling yourself that there is actually something. But once you awaken, truly something is ONLY seen and experienced as nothing. I only experience NOTHING appearing as something but its somethingness is seen as the NOTHING it really is.

If that so what does that mean for Leo's teachings? Just curious about the answers.

God is also NOT nothingness. Stop dividing yourself

To be "Awake" is to not be asleep. If you are experiencing Reality, you are asleep. You are lost in a dream, and think it's real. If you awake from reality, into full God Consciousness, the realization you are infinite, omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, nothingness, eternal, and created the dream of reality; you are Awake. Not the "self" you / the human perspective identity awakens (as that disappears as it never really existed to begin with), but the Self/God Consciousness awakens. The human self cannot awaken, as it's part of the illusion of the dream. The best one can do, is become a Lucid Dreamer of reality. To be lost in the dream (reality), experiencing it through a human first-person perspective, but still know without a doubt that you are God choosing to make yourself into this dream, so you can experience "other". Awake within the dream.

Ok, then Im going to a answer in your place: all that you're saying is illusion, there's no self or flow, nothing has ever happened, there's no one to whom it's happened, this is simply nothingness. Then I answer: What do you mean there's nothing? And if they locked you in a box with 300 rats that haven't eaten in a month, and also piranhas, would you say there's nothing?

If there was no way to connect....explain how he made a connection then? You didn't watch the whole video. It is impossible for God to be disconnected from itself because God is nothing. Also even without Leo making a connection wouldn't matter because God cannot be divided. God is nothingness. Nothingness is non physical which means it has no location, and does not exist in time. The only way God can disconnect itself is by IMAGINING that disconnection which it can break AT ANYTIME. Why? Because God is unconditional Love which means it will NEVER DENY ITSELF ITSELF. You humans and your tainted Love keep projecting your conditional love onto God as if its a thing. Now with that said am I saying that Infinity of Gods doesn't exist? No I'm saying they are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL which makes it THE EXACT SAME THING AS SOLIPSISM. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. The only reason God would do such a thing is because God is ALL ALONE and it is the GREATEST THING EVER so why not CREATE A GIFT(Another Copy) and then share the gift of yourself with yourself. Ironically God is doing that right now with your human life. It is gifting itself your human life. So its the same thing being done just at the Infinite Level.

I have realized I'm God. God is pure nothingness. Nothingness cannot be divided. This is practical. Forget the not knowing. Investigate what nothingness is. Once you investigate and realize what Nothingness is you will realize why even Infinity of Gods is just God imagining other Gods. Also you are mistaken, Leo says that there is direct experience and then there is imagination. I AM NOT SAYING THAT. I am saying something much more simpler...there is ONLY IMAGINATION. The same substance that human imagination is made of, is the same substance your HAND IS MADE OF. Leo complicates things too much, there is simply just imagination. To even create a difference between your human imagination and God level imagination of direct experience is to go too FAR. So once you realize THERE IS ONLY IMAGINATION, and IMAGINATION is NOTHINGNESS. Then please explain to me how something can happen OUTSIDE OF YOU? Your problem here is you are speaking as a human. Of course a human can have an event happen outside of them, that is because a human is located in a specific location. But nothingness? It exists EVERYWHERE. Nothingness is everything! This means if something as you say could exist outside of you, that something is YOU. There is only nothingness. Become aware of what Nothingness is! Once you become aware of it, you will realize this whole discussion is SILLY. For example ever go into DEEP SLEEP? Nothing how there is nothing? THAT is the building block of ALL of EXISTENCE. Nothingness is NON EXISTENCE THAT EXISTS. Are you getting it? You cannot divide that which doesn't exist. You can't stop non existence from being everywhere because it doesn't exist!!!! And yet....it does!!! This is how God breaks the logical mind and all parameters. You cannot box in or control that which does not exist. So God is a nonexistent being that has always existed. To understand God is to understand that God is so powerful God doesn't even need awareness of itself to accomplish a thing. For example your human body functions completely fine without you being aware of all the innerworkings involved, notice how you as God don't need to be aware of it for it to do what it is doing. God is completely autonomous and it can do so WITHOUT SELF AWARENESS. Now THAT is a MIRACLE.

Yes. It began with no self. Then nothingness. But I think nothingness was the most shocking.

The most annoying thing to me is the Realization of Nothingness, is identical to the Realization of Infinity. Why in the hell do these humans keep thinking that they are human doing this work. Once you realize Nothingness...you realize that division is literally impossible so nothing can be outside of you. The most important thing that needs to be dropped is this belief that you are human. You are nothingness imagining that you are human, not the other way around. I swear majority of this forum has not realized nothingness. When I realized it, it hit me in the face so hard I realized division was impossible and that was the only illusion done.

Discern for yourself what's realistic spirituality and what's fantasy . There are versions of spirituality which teach that happiness is unconditional or the very nature of being itself is happiness or bliss ..I find it hard to make sense of this if we test it against the actual world ..because obviously you can't be happy if you are starving or bleeding to death or swallowing sharp glass pieces in your throat... But some spiritual teachings say that God is nothingness .and that's true .if God is absolute and unchanging and eternal..then nothingness meets this criteria.

I really wonder when people on this forum will realize that contemplation is not TRUTH. Can it be valuable? Sure. But if you really want truth you need to change your state of consciousness and allow consciousness to SHOW YOU (which it will if you have a true desire for it) what is true. Once you discover the truth, coming on the forums and reading threads of people trying to debunk something that is Absolutely True is such an eyesore. I mean it reeks of such intellectual dishonesty it's laughable and this is me being nice. 1. You have only ever known your own mind. 2. You have never had an experience outside of your mind. 3. Your own body and all its parts have always been housed within your own mind. 4. You can only confirm what is right before you, anything else is just a thought. This means when a person is not in front of you, they do not exist in your reality and you cannot confirm their existence until they either call you or stand before you ^^^All of this is so true you don't even need 5-MEO to confirm it. The only parts you would need a Pyschedelic for would be to realize that everything is Imagination. If people were struggling with that part. THEN I would understand. Next we come to the fact that Reality is pure nothingness. If you discover that, then division becomes a total farce. There is no division PERIOD. All division is the ONLY ILLUSION, why? Because physicality is an illusion. In fact if you have a vivid enough dream you could experience physicality in that dream just as real as what you call real life. Then we have the Understanding that Reality is Infinite. If its Infinite that means its total and nothing can exist outside of it. If it has no outside, then Solipsism must be true. If it is nothing and cannot be divided then again Solipsism must be true. If you cannot confirm no matter how hard you try something outside of you, then again Solipsism must be true. Its very simple and straightforward. So why is it so tough to accept? Because the human psyche is designed to NOT LIKE THIS MESSAGE. It's specifically designed to RAGE against this message. This is how you know if you have really progressed Spiritually when you can accept that just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't make it false. Besides....you literally cannot falsify Solipsism, the only way to falsify Solipsism....is to look at your direct experience and say its false even though it is TRUE. Which means you falsify yourself. This all happens because all you have ever been...is experience. Your true identity is just Direct Experience. Experience is not what you are having....its what you are. And since you are experience...there is nothing that can exist outside of you. And to even confirm something were to exist outside of you....would be to confirm its existence as experience...which is what you are...thus proving again nothing can separate itself from you. You are Reality, the entire thing. There is only ONE Reality and that is what you are. Your like a video game, the only video game that exists, looking for another Video Game. All you will find....if you try is just the same game.

Not stealing their body lol. Breaking the boundary so there is no separation. Here is a video of 2 guys tripping together and their minds merged and they couldn't tell the difference between who was who. Also people who have OBE's have stated they could access the thoughts of people who were still in their body. What you all need to understand is this attachment to OTHER is a delusion. There is only YOU. There is only GOD and that's it. Everything else is just your human mind creating the sense of OTHER. Infinity is total, and it is NOTHINGNESS. You literally cannot divide nothingness. The only reason other is so convincing is because Infinity Intelligence makes it convincing and then your LOVE of other seals the deal. But other than that...it's an illusion. My ego doesn't like this message lol which is funny because in the beginning I didn't have an issue with it. But here is an irony...while I was tripping last year and investigating Solipsism my mind created an other (a voice) and that voice was created to debunk Solipsism!! It was very funny eventually I had an awakening through that process of how other was created and it is profoundly intelligent how God constructs other. Very intelligent. It hides information from itself so it can be surprised and it makes other unique in a different way which creates a sense of individuality. Really amazing!!