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I think any experience that makes your heart open is orgasmic. Even if it's eating pizza. Many people don't realize but when they eat pizza there is a sting of orgasm there. They even moan sometimes when they enjoy themself too much. So orgasm or bliss is what happens when your heart opens. And it can open in many ways. And if your heart opens fully. That's an ultimate orgasm. A cosmic orgasm of God consciousness.

Its just God a moment when you can stop existing and be in bliss. It will feel like that when you die the feeling get so intense you lose all other feelings and just stay in this place without thinking ever again.

Most who wish to identify as the body/mind and Egoic structure will condemn what you're saying and will not understand this from an Absolute perspective. They will curse you and tell you that you are delusional. They would rather live from a place of separation and keep their ideologies alive and well and continue in the loop. It's such a shame that we would prefer to hold unto our fake identities that keeps perpetuating thoughts of evil and good not recognizing the dysfunction it entails and that there is a higher place to live from other than what morality/immorality breeds. Ignorance is bliss. Thank you for the wisdom you share consistently and those who are ready will see it.

Maybe communion with someone is spiritual in itself, the divided wants to become unified, two become one? The reward is unadulterated bliss and sticky mess.

What he doesn't know is I have taken 3 tabs of LSD before and all it did was give me feelings of bliss. I had an awakening to Life Being A Cosmic Romance, a Love Story For God. Oh and notice his arrogance, trip sitting isn't weakness its to prevent incidents from happening. One of the things you become aware of in this work is you don't control your own body. So you can take a substance and your body just starts doing shit, a trip sitter can help protect you from jumping off a balcony.

There are infinite perspectives on any one thing. Orgasm is like a drug high, for a brief moment you enter the kingdom of God....then you fall back down LOL. Orgasm is a high of love, borne from the most intimate act of love between humans, and they chase that high so much. The first thing people discover after awhile is one night stands don't feel the same as an orgasm between someone you love. Another thing people realize is the orgasm feels intoxicating when there are painful memories (ups and downs) between you and your partner. This is why many people get trapped in cycles of toxic relationships because the makeup sex is addicting. It's even the case why two highly functional partners with little issues, start doing things like BDSM because they want to taint some of that purity with some toxicity even if its pretend. So yeah an orgasm can show you the enticing nature of the darkside, and the ecstacy of bliss highs you can get.

A form of seemingly inherent joy naturally comes to the forefront of one’s experience whenever you get out of your own way. Increasing awareness tends to open the door for bliss to become more readily available as a lived experience. In such moments, rather than struggling, you are simply free to be. Cultivate presence and conscious attention--many benefits will arise from this practice.

Okay well clarity I can help you with. I've made a post on Self-Honesty before. But now I have a question for you. Why are you doing Spirituality? You don't need to answer here if you are not comfortable because this isn't about any of us. You really need to dive deep and discover why you are doing Spirituality. Is it to find inner peace? Most people do it for that reason. If all you want is inner peace I can help you with that but ultimately you will have to discover it as I can only be a guide. There is also a long way and a direct way but the long way maybe be better for you and most people. Both paths will involve much pain and suffering, sadly my friend pain and suffering are an essential tool of the path. I'll give you an example, think of your attachments like a stove, now the stove is becoming hot but you don't want to let it go, so it burns you and burns you until you finally let it go. Then the stove disintegrates into nothing and you mourn the loss of it. ^^^^This is the path whether you take the longer version or the shorter version. I have realized for many of you the longer version is probably more beneficial. I'm in my 30's, I cannot imagine trying to wake up in your 20's. For me that would have not been beneficial for me, because I was so attached to meaning and purpose, so ambitious. You need to understand that this path is counter to ambition, counter to meaning. You are destroying all meaning, this WILL create deep suffering the more attached/personalized your story of your life is. This is why in my opinion you need to be satisfied with the life you have lived before you come to awaken. Any beliefs of I am missing out on other things etc, is going to stop you. You cannot awaken by force, this is the path of surrender. Also understand in my journey I didn't only listen to Leo, I had many people who came into my life and helped me along the path. Now understand that creating bliss is actually not hard, but it is counter intuitive. I discovered how to create bliss and I can share it with you in a private message but your masculine mind is not going to like it. In fact the biggest barrier to this process is your desire to be sane, pragmatic, and logical. Which is funny because that is the same mindset that causes wars, and all the other crap humans do. Anyway if you message me I will tell you how I discovered how to create bliss, but a warning...it will seem airy fairy, naive, child-like, romantic rubbish, and this is the very reason most men will never discover a deep connection within themselves or in their relationships. In fact its the demonization of this that prevents intimacy because the most intimate nature is our child like nature.

I think I've said other times that when I say the WORDS bliss or pleasure or silence are WORDS, I'm not talking about mental or physical pleasure, I'm not talking about mental or physical bliss. I'm talking about a certain state of consciousness. Consciousness can be in a wide range of different states, as our beloved forum Leader said in the past. Caring about truth is fine. But try to care about truth in a miserable state. See if is of any value Truth when you are anxious or fearful or live stressed. That will let you see that State of Consciousness is how you measure the profoundity and importance of life. That will let you see what is important for you: Experience of Life. How you are experiencing this very moment. A State of consciousness above suffering = Consciousness outside the mind. It doesn't matter how many more are from there. The important thing is to get there. From there I can negotiate that there can still be different ways for Consciousness to experience itself. For example, i can imagine that if you disgange from the physical body for too long, you will die (aka, abandoning the body, mahasamadhi). So, of course, is not white or black. But first, get to 'first base' First base is to be able to disangage from that which bounds you. Dismissing that as pleasure seeking is completely losing the point. You are not getting the seriousness and importance of you as consciousness being able to distance yourself from mind, emotion and energetic entanglement. This is the primordial work. Only from there mysticism and comfortable exploration of this creation starts.

Of course, I did not mean to deny this. No, preferring things has nothing to do with self-image. It is not selfish to prefer vanilla over chocolate, for example. Or drinking water when you are thirsty. Those are just biological imperatives which do not require a self at all. The perception of thirst is not selfishness, and the perception of a pleasant flavour is not selfishness, the perception of those two things as being selfish is itself selfishness. It is a common misconception to perceive desires and preferences as something which involve a self, but that self only appears when you create beliefs about yourself in relation to those desires and preferences. For example, it is not selfish to want to reach first place in a race. It is selfish to say "I desire to win this race, because otherwise I will be unworthy." In the latter case, the only reason the race is desired is because it is genuinely believed it will solve a lack of self-worth. What is desired is not actually the race, but the absolution of the belief that you are unworthy. When you win the race, that is the moment that you start to change your self-image, because now your experience contradicts your previous identity, which was the identity of someone who has never won a race before and therefore is not worthy. Your emotions are perfectly in tune with what you think you are perceiving, which is an imagined self. If you live in a world that is threatened by imagination, then it is perfectly normal to seek a state of non-imagination, just as normal as it would be to run away from a bear. It is not wrong or morally inferior to live in the imaginary world, but what is being pointed to is that the imaginary self can be permanently uprooted, and it can simply be realized that it didn't exist in the first place. What is called "selfishness" are the actions you take to "defend" that imagined self from thoughts and beliefs. Ah ok, but it seems related, because at the end of the day, these thought-based emotional problems are to do with that "me" entity which lingers around. Perhaps if that is absolved you will stay there longer. That is fair, you can enjoy that silence if you want, but I see that you are creating thoughts about yourself from the experience. Experience silence if you want, but no point in thinking about how your current experience isn't that silence. You are building ideas around it, for example, "normal egoic consciousness." I am saying that believing in that label is ironically a belief system created from that very blissful experience of silence. You created a dichotomy which says: "This experience is bliss, this experience is normal egoic consciousness, and neither can ever converge." For sure, there are certainly very blissful states which are worth pursuing. But I saw ideas about ego being mixed up in there, which I saw as a conflation.

I was born a Muslim, and for 18 years of my life I was a very devout one. The last 4 years of my life I've done much introspection on my beliefs and I type to you now as an agnostic. I am not publicly agnostic but my close friends are aware of it, and when on rare occasions we talk religion one of my friends always says something that makes me question the idea of theism altogether, he says "My parents are ignorant and they're so happy, why can't I be happy and ignorant as well?". When he says that, it makes me think of all the sleepless nights trying to accept the fact that "Allah", this being that I had built an intimate 18 year long relationship with, did not exist. And it makes me question whether the entire journey of truth (specifically in religion) is worth it at all. Should each person just follow what their culture teaches, regardless of its external validity, because that is what allows for the least suffering and the most happiness? Does ignorance = happiness? Thoughts?

Ah yes, the Guru question. It can potentially make you experience things you never imagined and lead you to happiness or can totally mislead or corrupt for decades. You can also mistake true for false and false for true. But good luck. If you do some sadhana and generate some bliss or have sat trough at least one night of Mahashivrathri or things like that, you will probably find such quality people in your life (i mean the real ones, but you will anyway don't do what they say, because they would like you to become mystic and drop your life).

It's not a fairy tale. I was once in a ridiculously blissed out state for 3 days straight afterward...a part of me...wanted to experience pain. At that moment I was like.....NO WONDER!!!! OF COURSE!!!! So no, you think you want it...you don't otherwise...you would have it. You want to be in bliss? Surrender all of your selfishness. Unconditional love= SEFLESSNESS. Surrender all attachments....every single one and you can have it. It's simple. I've posted method after method. One example is to live a life of selfless service to others while cultivating a meditation practice of surrendering within. If you have any attachments go burn through them till you don't want them anymore. This path is the path of the feminine. The path of compassion, of softness, of kindness, and surrender, the path of death. Die to your personal desires and desire for all that is....and you'll get it. But....the ego doesn't like this message, it wants to take unconditional love...without having to surrender....HAHAHHHH God's perfect design!!

It is . I agree . So in your opinion there is no such thing as unconditional happiness or a state of 24/7 nirvanic bliss and joy like what these Indian gurus try to sell us ?

Am I doing what I want or what others/familiy/society/my 'past me' wants? Are we blinded by so much information, by all the online mentors, by too much socialization, by to many distractions, by the shiny lights of superficial success, by constant connection, that we never even bother to search for our Zone of Genius? It takes a lot of reflection, solitude, silence, emotional labour, trial and error, sacrifices... and maybe we don't want to dive deep, like David Lynch puts it: “Ideas are like fish. If you want to catch little fish, you can stay in the shallow water. But if you want to catch the big fish, you’ve got to go deeper. Down deep, the fish are more powerful and more pure. They’re huge and abstract. And they’re very beautiful.” Leo talked in his last happiness video, how he really doesn't believe in going full monk in meditation, because he is very creative and his mind is very active. That struck me. Specially coming from him, 'the spiritual guy'; and I realized that the path of mastery of one skill can be even more fulfilling that the path of ''full spirituality'. That the path of mastery/creativity (''exploiting'' the active/monkey mind), could be even more fulfilling than the path of shutting of the monkey-mind. Im also INTP, highly active and creative mind; and probably a lot of you in this forum are also similar. Why fight our gifts, instead of going along with them? Beware of going down a path that is not truly yours, just because is a fad, popular or is a promise of happiness. The path is not the same for all. And yes, Im talking to myself, I need to reflect on this; but if you also needed to read this, I hope this makes you reflect. Rick Rubin is probably not enlightened, but I look at him, and think: 'why would he try to get to enlightenment?' He radiates bliss and pure joy. Peace. The kind of guy who works hard, makes millions, and still enjoys smelling the roses. In fact, it seems that everything for him is about enjoying the smell of the fucking roses.

See thats what i love, now we are agreeing on something. So its not that bad the ww3, you get bliss for eternity. You think experiencing something on 5 MEO for 20 min is great, tryt it for eternity, you will go ballistic.

Theres super lavish bunkers now. And no the Jews are not invited (joking) Either way wouldn't be too bad to surf eternity and bliss <3

I don't think there even be historians after WW3. We will all be in Heaven (Hell for some, or should I say most) enjoying our eternity, tripping endlessly in a state of never ending bliss. Lol

@Dodo Consciousness=existence is held true in some traditions, like Advaita, in others not. But why give any concept, existence or consciousness or bliss or nothingness or brahman, a privileged position in relation to absolute truth? (Not a leading question, I don't have a good answer!)

dont they say its the same thing? sat chit ananda, existence consciousness bliss consciousness means existence

Think you’ve kind of answered your own question, lsd lasts a long time and can be draining, if you do it when your already tired then your going to have an even more uncomfortable body load. also coffee is a complete stimulant, psychedelics have stimulating effects but are not a true stimulant. psychedelics can relax your body in ways that hard to achieve when sober, but they also keep you wide awake. If you fight the relaxation of your body with your mind then it can cause extreme tension, you just have to let the body do what it wants to do, don’t try to fight it. you’ll find that if you let the body work through the energy and let it flow wherever it wants to go then the body load will often dissipate into extreme bliss.

Good observation. There is a place outside the mind where nothing of the crap we are used to exist. They say those who stay in that place long enough, end up abandoning the body (Mahasamadhi) because of the irresistible sweet Bliss and explosive 🧨 good feeling liberation that is being outside the realm and chains of the mind.

3.5 grams for a first-time is deep work. You're very strong mentally to get over that peak as well as you did. You did what you needed to do at that time. With more experience, you will learn that whatever happens, it will all be OK. I would get the"Why the fuck am I doing this again" when I did 2gr, at times. Depression seems to be the root of that for me. So I take stock of myself and try to go in with a clearer mind. I don't have depression all that much anymore. The laser lines are visions that you created, your imagination projecting back at you with a lot more force and that can be fearful, or blissful. YOu can learn from bad trips, after the peak, when the " I'm going to be OK" settles in, then it can be so amazing going from "metaphysical angst", and then bliss.. That light within", love. Nice. I think it has another source, magical/mystical/alive ,. I take it as a contemplative expression. Centering.

Outside of Winterknight I don't see this being talked about enough, and even he doesn't say it directly. This is the crux of self-realization. Nothing else matters. In this forum people are mostly interested in the relative content of the mind. Everyone is asking questions about morality, God, emotions, fear etc. Well sorry but none of these have anything to do with enlightenment. Also, you can't judge a person's enlightenment by what he believes in, because that stuff (again) has nothing to do with enlightenment. This is a misunderstanding that the mind of the enlightened person cannot hold beliefs etc. The only thing that does matter is identification. That is identification with the mind, the ego, the body, awareness etc. The typical person identifies with objects: I am this or that. The non-dual person identifies with: I am. Self-inquiry practitioners identify with: I-I. The self-realized person does not identify with any form of I, no matter how subtle, whatsoever. If this is the compass of your path, you will make it. If not you won't. What ends up happening is that through intensity of longing, surrender, witnessing and devotion your identification mechanisms will break down. You will never, ever go back to the illusions. What is the initial experience after enlightenment? Void would be saying too much. So ask yourself, is the only thing that there is void? If not, then you are deluded.

They are not. They are capable of unconditional love, compassion, gratitude, forgiveness etc. It's just that these characters got buried deep within because of the environment and the survival characters are reigning now. You can recognise that these survival traits won't serve the purpose of finding them true happiness,peace and bliss, and be compassionate towards them for not being able to recognise it. Compassion is one extension of love. The main purpose of Spirituality is to awaken such people, from their deep programming due to survival needs.