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Vibroverse replied to CoolDreamThanks's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And when we, maybe, realize that we don't need to try to work things out, that tha flow of intelligence will just carry us. I mean, that would be the true nirvana, true nothingness, in a sense, maybe. -
Telling people to have a non-method is itself a relative thing, unless you're pointing to Nothingness.
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Vibroverse replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think it is about releasing resistance gradually, and relaxing into nothingness more comfortably and with lesser and lesser wobbles. I think it is like the idea of the frog who is in a water tank that gets hotter and hotter gradually that the frog does not notice that change. -
Seriously, put that “ego just doesn’t know what’s best” thing aside for a moment. Why would an omnipotent, infinitely knowing, omniscient and whatnot being create *this*? If the ego doesn’t know what’s best that’s God’s choosing too, and it’s stupid because he lives through the egos not through his God-nothingness-self. Seriously, the plot isn’t even good, which for the majority of people goes a little like: be born, have a few good experiences in childhood that you’ll cherish during adulthood, become a teenager and be attracted to the opposite sex, reach adulthood, be very wary of the outside world since you’ve learned it’s dangerous and sit in front of a computer most of your day most days doing something that doesn’t really benefit the world or that you like just so that you can manage to exist and spend the rest of your time doing chores around the house, being emotionally available to your partner despite being tired af and pandering to mini you who’s most likely destined to the same future you had/have. Retire when you’re old, too tired and frail to do anything worthwhile, and finally die. And please don’t come at me with the usual wank “everyone is in control of their destiny” because as we have all come to agree, time doesn’t exist. Reality is NOW, God’s will is the present moment, so all those decisions that you wouldn’t condone in my example for most people are decisions that God manifested. I mean think about it, thought comes before action, and the ego isn’t prior to thought. Boom, no free will. Even science agrees with this. Ask yourself how many people you see smiling when you’re walking outside? Usually most seem miserable and defensive. You could also say “everything manifests in infinity” but we have no real motives to think that’s the case. As shitty as this world is, there’s intelligence in its design. Are there actual modes of existence where things weigh more towards positivity, or will it always take the self moving mountains to get but a crumb of love?
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This only makes sense if you worship money. And obviously non-billionaires need to hold billionaires accountable. This is just absurd. The daunt. Ah, okay, I flagrantly misinterpreted you. Freedumb would be if you stopped banning me for no reason. Just check out my high quality post history. Reality is Infinity, God, Nothingness, Neither-Nor, Both-And, Either-Or, Energy, Consciousness and Intent. Reality is Consciousness connected by Intent, which is why your intention itself affects reality itself. It’s why we should have good, helpful, useful, cooperative intents. Its also why retrocausality and bilocation are possible if you intend them with enough energy. I could teach you about that. Also you should watch documentaries about Hurricane Dorian in the Bahamas. Hundreds of Haitians on the island Abaco got streamrolled by flooded wind-pushed shipping containers in “The Mud” shanty town. For your geography challenge. Reality can easily create island nightmares like that, which are more interesting and teach you more about Consciousness and the atmosphere of it than some grotesquely rich guy messing up a website and causing a mass exodus. Blue Sky probably will take off. Really high end.
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michaelcycle00 replied to michaelcycle00's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I mean yes no sh*t it is evolving, what I'm saying is there's no ultimate relevancy to that. In the infinite scheme of things it is as much of a game as a bunch of kids playing with paper planes. Yes, of course it seems bad to me. Who the hell is living life? Some infinite nothingness entity or a limited egoic human? My narcissistic parents are nothing compared to how atrocious this world is, what a bad example and I'm guessing it was a cheap blow on your end. Anyhow, what move is there to make? What mission? Life is too meaningless for a mission. It's just a constant fight day in and day out, I guess those of you from first world countries with loving families just can't really fathom how it's like for others. -
HMD replied to michaelcycle00's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@michaelcycle00 You have not been adequately bored in life. Just sit down and experience deep nothingness, and then try climbing stairs. It will move you to tears. As @Inliytened1 said, being God is boring. And you can experience this for yourself and then everything will make sense. You’ll develop gratitude and integrate that stage green. This might not answer your question directly, but may lead you to the answers directly. -
Javfly33 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It sounds to me that you are limiting yourself. I partly agree with you in the topic of trying to Chase positive experience. But that is NOT morally wrong. Is just that...It doesn't work. There is nothing wrong with pursuing positive experiences. Im sick of this Christian messages going around in this forum about being ok with mediocrity or being "so awake" to not prefer positive experiences over negative ones. Or positive emotions over negative ones. You can NOT avoid Desire and Longing for BLISS, SILENCE, LIGHT, AND FREEDOM. Your whole being has this very qualities when layers of thought and karmic bonds start being unknotted and dismantled. Please notice there is not anything more natural for your being than to be in pure in innocence, absolute radiation, and full vibrancy. The game does end until you are a perfect Diamond of Awareness, nothingness, untouchable, in perfect unity with itself. From there the game really is fun... No human being ultimtatley settles for just mediocrity. Everyone "wants" that. Because everyone is "that freedom" Is just that not all humans, in fact most of them, do not know how to do this (and in this forum most of us are still in the process of It), so most humans pursue this longing in form of short term pleasure like you said. And others are just in skid row shooting up fentanyl. People are getting their moments of freedom however they know how. Is just all those external ways of getting It is not maintenable, and doesn't even cover the full spectrum of how perfect vibrant your Consciousness can become. -
He woke up so deep that he just disappeared into nothingness, like in the end of lucy, haha.
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I just had 1 real psychedelic expericience with DMT (changa), so Im no expert, but for me its a full disappearance of reality. Like going to another dimension. Appearance of fractals, lots of color, entities, hallucination of sounds, the 'sense' of Nothingness, Infinity, the Void... I dint have an awakening with DMT, although I experienced Nothingness, Infinity, and saw the Void. This experience with weed didn't have any visuals. Reality stayed exactly the SAME. Just changed the context. 'I' appreciated Reality, Oneness, Absolute Truth for the first time.
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There honestly is not that much to elaborate. All that exists is THIS. When you think of "something else", then that thought is part of THIS. So THIS is all that can and does exist. It's as simple as that. The most profound truths are always the most simple ones... which is exactly why the monkey mind vehemently rejects them. The mind loves making things complicated, thus distracting itself from that which could otherwise not be more obvious. And what would that nothingness look like? Look around. THIS is nothingness expressing itself through form. Without form, there is no experience; without experience, there is no reality. Which is why I always say that "nothing" and "something" are two sides of the same coin. It's not that one indicates the absence of the other; they are simply two aspects of one and the same thing. TL;DR: There is nowhere to go and nothing to change. THIS IS IT!
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This is profound . Could you elaborate please? 🙏 But nothingness or formlessness forever is not nonexistence .
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Thoughts actually don't just "arise" out of nothingness. They are activated and flavored by shifts in the contrast between our inter-connections that occur as things move/change inside us and outside us. We have a narrative system that is hooked into or superimposed onto our level of flow that automates the pace of internal chitter-chatter and maintains a given degree of immersion plus a given degree of populated conscious activity. When people meditate and try to hold "nothingness" or an empty mind or whatever, they are in essence trying to slow/calm that flow and create a short-lived vacuum or pocket of thoughtlessness (among other things, there are many different kinds of meditation, which is really just practice of some flavor of applied focus). And of course when that vacuum releases, the thoughts come back, whether the vacuum was released willfully, or a shift in our body caused the automatic release. The release of the vacuum is a shift event in and of itself which is an emotionally competent stimulus that will trigger thought narratives and influence how they "appear" to manifest. We can't get caught up in that single shift and tunnel-vision to the point, where that is the only reference from which we draw conclusions. There is way more there to explore and way more we have to develop to even have proper access to those avenues of exploration. So people make the mistake of jumping to the conclusion that thoughts arise from this vacuum because they haven't sensitized themselves to the bodily shifts, nor have they developed the tensile resiliency or traction to deal with how those shifts effect our cognitive recollection of the actual experience. They don't account for or properly attribute how the vacuum state influenced the mixture, which flavored the trigger of thought as it preceded, much like people fail to attribute or account for the weight or influence of observation having an effect on the collapse of a wave function when conducting science expirements. In that fraction of a second where things shift, there is a shit load of things going on that are fast as hell, and more subtle then a whisper on the wind. Not to be melodramatic or anything, but internal transitions are hard as hell to gain a clear picture on, because every move you make in response to a transition influences the transition, which influences you on every level from cognition to immersion to emotion and everything else. We're trying to bring some kind of clarity to an ever-changing mixture that we are a part of and are influenced by at all times, which takes a lot of time and a lot of development to be able to create requisite levels of a kind of meta superposition to be even able to accomplish. And instead of doing all that, or even knowing to do all that, people just stick with the idea, that thoughts arise out of nothingness, because that's all their feel for things can tell them at the time and so they miss out on the potential for more. We have to be more humble than that and buy less into this false certainty "that this is all there is". This is where the uncertainty principle comes in handy as a protection against false certainty. In essence, beware a conclusion that leaves you no access to further potentialities, because a conclusion that absolute is a false and flawed one. Our view of life and ourselves does not have to be that primitive, nor so extreme and divorced from the nuances of reality. Generally speaking, I wish people would remind themselves that they don't have to approach the question of free will in a binary way. We are a dynamic mixture of automation and free will superimposed on top of each other and the dance of that mixture plays out, in more than a single step. We automatically activate, then consciously calibrate, then automatically activate in response to that conscious calibration, which we then consciously calibrate again as we make choices. It is a dance with overlapping or slightly superimposed steps of automated activation and conscious balancing/calibration via choice with mutual avenues for inter-influence that compounds over time in a hopefully constructive way. The degree of depth, and the determination of which is the dominant or secondary force, driving the dance changes depending on the person and their unique context in a given moment. Distinct, but seamless and the degree of difference in what people might create from such a dance staggering.
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Hi I am new here, I have to say this guy was the start of my journey long ago after watching his video who am I? It took me through shadow work which was scary, but I did it and over come my fears, I had a shadow guide that helped me on the other side, I can say darkness is beautiful, there is no evil there, it’s just space, nothingness and blissful, I have rid myself of all beliefs, and it is wonderful, I feel like hugging this guy, and sending a big thank you. My whole life has changed, relationship separate, I feel free and out of the old pattern, am finding myself more and more, who I will become is another question? something I wanted to ask is how I seem to be vibrating very high 3khz it gets so unreadable at times, I don’t know what I am suppose to do with it, and it changes frequency on both sides, I see geometry shapes in my vision, and as I manipulate the shapes, the frequency changes, I am still practicing with this, to find a balance between both, I wonder am I channeling? If anyone has had similar experience?
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I keep hearing all these words and I get confused. Could somebody define all these for me? And link them all up together and how they relate to each other, growth, the world, life, and everything else? Is consciousness the same as awareness? Is consciousness actually nothingness? The Truth is you are nothing and everything they say. Some teachers say you are empty awareness, some say you are nothing, are they the same? They call it God and absolute infinity and all kinds of shit. Can somebody just explain all these words and the concepts and ideas behind them? I would like a big picture understanding of how these all link up together. Thanks
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Hero in progress posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am sure some of you may have had a experience of being nothingness, right? That highly alive, solid emptyness. That stretches out to infinity? Right? That is the true nature of consciousness, of being. if you're sincere & commit to truth, you will probably have this nothingness show itself at some point. After a while of going in and out of this nothingness, the belief of the self will dissolve more & more as each awakening convinces that there is nothing here. And nothing to come back to. Nothingness/being is what you specifically are! And everyone else is insane and living in the dream of being human, and all the stuff that goes with that. Truth is now to be embodied, this is what Masters all do of course. They became walking manifestation of truth and being. Ask your self what do you want? Do you want a enlightenment experience or are you willing to throw yourself in the fire of the absolute? -
Jowblob replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've quoted most of what he said because it's truth based on what i've experienced and know, on the highest consciousness level i ever was there was just an infinite mind/vibration in nothingness/void. I was that mind, but no control since it is infinite. Consciousness is a compilation of random events, but here it takes form as stability because you want to live this imaginary life as co-creator/god to share your own love for yourself -
Breakingthewall replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are god in the sense that what you really are is the infinite reality that exists and manifests, but you are not in the sense that the self that is perceived as the center of experience and that questions whether others exist, It is a transitory creation that dissolves into nothingness. It's very easy to get confused. very difficult to understand the subtle difference, how the experience is created. You have to dissolve yourself totally many times to start to have a glimpse -
Here I am again angry at myself because 10min ago I was in a very weird nothingness place now im back to normal egoic consciousness like they call. I´m so tired of going back and forth from mystical to cotidian life. Is so frustrating for us, for people that haven't seen the other side they don't know what they are missing. We know what we are missing, which makes it very frustrating. And when people ask for guidance Everyone just answers with bullshit replies such as 'don't worry you are god you are choosing to be limited' and more crap like that.
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Razard86 replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Let's just say....the best grounding is nothing. If you ever find yourself in a hellish experience, you can ground yourself in nothingness. I don't disagree with anything you have said thus far because you have spoken truth obviously. But let's just say the point is to stop ourselves from falling too deep in the dream. It is wonderful to know that the safety valve is NOTHING. LOL, sounds so stupid to say considering what humans actually think nothing is. -
Kuba Powiertowski replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Vibroverse Yes. When I follow the guidance of my heart, I see life where I saw death before. And I see hate as a lack of love. I see lies and fear where there is no courage for truth. There are no problems if you stay true to your heart. @Razard86 Yes. We are no one going anywhere. But we (the supreme "I") co-create this realm to have full human experience. To create any experience, you need a ruleset. A framework. Points of reference. If you find your original state of pure nothingness as the ultimate value, go back to it via some maha samadhi and why bother? -
DLH replied to Sir Oberon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is something "ME" wrote 2 or 3 years ago and has since been modified to the current "ME"! It helped "ME" tap into the Unknown "ME" The "ME" that can play with infinite "MEs" lol...... I struggled with the “I” and "I AM" But after having one of several Aya DMT trips, I substituted it with “ME” The more aware and expanded “Me” became, the more difficult it was for "Me" to use words to describe awareness and knowingness. It’s like the words “Nothingness and Somethingness”. I struggled for years with these words after experiencing a state of no-thought, no-form, no-universe, no-nothingness and no-somethingness during my second Aya experience back in 2017, and yet, I was aware of a “Me”-ness a Knowingness beyond sensations and thought. Some people use the word Absolute God Consciousness to express nothingness, somethingness, love, oneness, void, etc. But I struggled with the word “God”. Perhaps because of the dogmas that are associated with those three combined letters, and what the "I AM" was subconsciously attached deep within EGO ingrained beliefs and emotions. “Me” has since found the words “All-That-Is”, which for “Me” best describes the word God and the words Nothingness, somethingness, love, etc. which also points to the state of awareness that cannot be defined, explained, or touched with singular thought, patterns of thoughts or with concepts! "All-That-IS" is also a concept! And can only point to "ME"!!!! “Me” is just “ME” “ME” is Absolute Freedom! And yes, "Freedom" is also a concept! Lol....... -
Adrian colby replied to Inliytened1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. It’s just something I noticed when I embarked on this journey. I wasn’t following anyone or reading anything when I tried to figure out a way how to discern what was true and ended up having a spontaneous mystical experience where the whole of reality dissolved and there was nothing left except a dim awareness… which was nothing, nowhere, no time etc. shot back into reality in shock as an atheistic science fanboy having stared infinity in the face recognising it as god and me simultaneously and freaking out. I Tried to figure out what happened and came across an actualised video talking about neti neti meditation that sounded like what I had just done. I took it further by getting comfortable then with psychedelics and discovered the consciousness part during my first ever cannabis ceremony. The facilitator said I was the first person he ever had collapse unconscious but for me it was straight back to the infinity ‘non’ space of dim awareness and I became the thing I was trying to understand. I had to pull myself from that awareness and focus myself into a mind ( some form of mental mechanism with an order to it) but it itself was also infinite. An infinity pulled from infinity almost like two sides of a mirror. One infinity or darkness, nothingness, awareness looking out and the other infinity a mind projecting mental forms, dreams, imaginings reflecting back at itself to discover itself as something as opposed to nothing. I had to focus my mind, consciousness and create structured forms and narratives to recreate the reality I just dissolved or I was not getting back in there. I essentially imagined myself back into a human and became aware of how I was doing it. I became aware of how god imagines things into being including ideas, thoughts, coherent thoughts and linear thoughts to perceive linear moments or ordered time. I was creating it as I was focusing it with thoughts. To hold it within my consciousness I had to believe it was real. I had to deceive myself into believing I was a human and forgetting what I really was and suddenly remembered how I got into this mess 🤦♂️. I did it to myself. that’s where I understand Leo’s description of infinite consciousness or the exploration of the mind of god that on the reflective side of the mirror (symbolic description) there is an endless exploration of consciousness, forms, realms, realities, states of consciousness etc etc which is what you get if you go beyond bog standard awakening or enlightenment ( taking that to mean the discovery of the infinite nothing void that is the truest fundamental). coming back a little bit within that awareness void is where consciousness resides. Having become familiar with the placebo tool belief, I’ve been able to shift realities at night while going down into subconscious states so I can explore. strangely I find it easier to explore consciousness this way than with psychedelics. Psychedelics dissolve me too much and bring me to abstract realms where all the exploration and understanding is imageless and formless. I prefer being able to construct ordered realities so I can explore them. I do go into psychedelic like spaces from time to time including 5MeO space but it’s rare and I do psychedelics when I find myself getting rigidly attached to beliefs about this world just to release myself again. it’s wonderful but no one around here ( where I live or even the integration groups from the ceremonies) really understands. This forum helps as there are those who have experienced that and I recognise the same experiences even if they are described differently. so yeah I’m a perception within consciousness and all narratives consciousness conjures up about its forms or existence on this side of the mirror are a way of justifying their existence as real, dissecting them and creating ever deeper stories about them is consciousness expanding itself out, separating itself into more and more ‘things’, decentrating itself…another deception because consciousness itself is still an occurrence within awareness. To get back to awareness it concentrates back to single pointedness or singularity. shit!….. sorry im just after having a small god realisation sitting here. It comes and goes 🤣 -
I really think that my life is nothing. So I wanna take a university course again. No matter how I age. Or I just wasn't doing anything with my life. Like right now, I'm struggling everyday with nothingness. With nothing to do. I woke up. And wonder what I'll do. Killing time. I'm really am doing nothing. I wish I would have a really productive day. And feel really sleepy at night. While now I'm always wide awake. Not really sleepy either.
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Breakingthewall replied to TheWind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Fear is the inherent fear of being a human, it is what keeps you now in a mental capsule, grasping everything with your mind creating an illusion of security and control. Now you are floating in infinity, and you know nothing, there is nothing to hold on to. This, now, is eternity. You can open yourself to it right now, it is the total glory of existence, the unfathomable depth. You just have to let your mind fall into nothingness. It is not stopping thinking, it is letting down the one who wants to stop thinking.
