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What most of you are not getting here is that Leo has awakened to Troll Consciousness

You are not the most awakened being there is. It comes off pretty painful to see you insist on it, from posts to posts, when what is happening is a clear case of an ego co-opting awakening/ and intellectual insights as a way to strengthen itself. It's pretty basic, and easy to spot from an outside perspective. I suppose since it's not necessarily the nicest thing to point at, and that when someone slack off from your gravity pool there is no more strong feeling one need to 'do something about it', it's rare that it's being told to you. But lately, your situation comes off as very bad, and I would highly recommend you to seek some help, before you keep sinking more and more into delusion. Now I already know, I'm going to be threatened, belittled, told I am not awake enough, not smart enough and all the likes. But that reaction is exactly what makes me know you are not the real deal. Love, gentleness, kindness, and respect is quite foreign to you (as of 2022, you used to be a cool guy), and your forum looks like a 'spiritual' BDSM studio where you followers enjoy you pouring melted wax on their low-self esteem wounds. If you want to connect with the unconditional love that is so longed for and talked about, you might want to start to incarnate it. You are totally bereft of it. Hence your obsession with the idea of it, and your constant need for superiority. It's the infamous zero sum game mentality, all over again. A need for superiority on the Buddha, Tolle, Ken Wilber and obviously, your followers. Seeing anyone doing better than you is a threat to your sense of self. What a Guru! By the way, I know you've been itching to ban my account for a while. If you feel like burning the witch, feel free to do so. I suppose stating the obvious has this cost.

No It's just spontaneous. I can trip deeper in my sleep than I sometimes do in "real life". No. Often when I fall asleep my mind becomes infinite, and then I get to explore all sorts of insane dimensions of consciousness which the human mind cannot access. They are not normal wacky dreams, they are awakened states of consciousness.

Leo told Connor Murphy he'd "lost it" for thinking he was a space alien, I'm failing to see any difference whatsoever between Connor Murphy claiming to be a space alien and Leo claiming to be a space alien. Anyone who had "awakened" would have nothing but the same exact shit to post over and over again. This ITT is all just like, 4chan /x/ tier people. Nothing at all to do with any sort of deep truths at all.

New party game… Take a hit of 5-Meo every time Leo says he’s reached a new level of awakened consciousness

The essential difference is that every traditional form of spirituality demanded everything from its participants, orienting every aspect of life towards that which is beyond life. Leo’s form of spirituality is instead designed to be perfectly compatible with a degenerate Americanised lifestyle of “building your own biz”, picking up bimbos at clubs, “partying with god”, masturbating to pornography, living in Las Vegas (the “city of devils”!), the Satanic doctrine of progressive leftism and of course the narcissistic cult of “self-actualization”. It is no wonder, then, that the use of psychedelics is the only spiritual path that Leo can imagine, for the use of psychoactive drugs is probably the only way that someone living such a mediocre lifestyle can attain to any spiritual heights, however temporary these may be. Naturally, this is all justified by the alibi of a “spirally progressive” view of historical development. We, however, can watch and laugh as we witness the spiralling out of control of a narcissistic ego high on its own supply! Indeed, if anyone needed proof that the overuse of psychedelics results only in ego inflation and the dissolution of the personality into an incoherent mush of crass narcissism, self-centred nostalgia and soppy sentimentalism, it would be hard to find a better case study. In the end, and as has fortunately become very apparent recently, Leo is just the most awakened bug-man, and his followers are little more than a nest of other bug-creatures worshipping their bug-leader in true bug-style. Crush the bugs! SPLAT!

Let me explain the deep confusion that is prevalent on actualized.org as simply as I possibly can: Relative Truth - duality, human, mind, body, soul, language, words, colors, water, food, black, white, love, fear, joy, pain, cat, dog, light, dark, chaos, order, good, evil, man, woman, ethnicity, favorite songs, preferences, likes, dislikes, ignorance, consciousness etc...... Absolute Truth - Absolute Nothingness, Absolute Unity, Absolute Truth, God, no distinctions, no duality, no boundaries, everything is one, one is everything, no distinction between good or evil, you don't exist, you are not a human, you are not your body, you are not your mind, you were never born etc..... Golden Middle Truth - This is the part that is the missing puzzle for the entire actualized.org dilemma and confusion of "relative" vs "absolute" understanding. The goal should NOT be to "transcend relative truth", it is to get you towards the Golden Middle Truth, to integrate Absolute Truth of psychedelic experiences into the Relative Truth of being a Human and move closer towards wisdom, love, consciousness, unity, goodness, skillful way of living, awareness - the Golden Middle Truth, the Wise Mind, the Wise Way. Also, the only way to say "there is no evil" is to know and understand the "Divine Plan" for which all evil was working towards just like good. I am not disagreeing with you that there is no evil, but that is because I have an understanding of what all evil was for the sake of. To say that "evil does not exist, because everything is me" lacks that understanding. The correct way of saying for you is: I forgive and I am grateful for all evil because I believe that all evil was for the sake of God's Absolutely Perfect, Genius and Magnificent Divine Masterpiece. The correct way of saying for me ( I who awakened and know the Truth ) is: I forgive and I am grateful for all evil because I know that all evil was for the sake of God's Absolutely Perfect, Genius and Magnificent Divine Masterpiece.

You misread the title, it actually says: "I awakened, ask me anything" - this implies intelligent questions about my awakening and existential questions that will incite contemplation, insights and useful conversations about the true nature of reality.

There is no necessity, you are willfully trapped in childish views of material validity. Gods infinite intelligence can create stupidity, there is no impossibility. Unless that impossibility is wanted within infinity, as contradiction fine. Your energy is too dense, still speaking from a low level place, there’s a tone of “reality” to your words that lack that awakened quality of gnosis. You feel hurt and upset, stagnant and physical. Just dense. Curled up. Superficial understandings haven’t pierced your core beliefs, just talk without access to the way.

Yes, you have a clear understanding of the differences which exist between Leo's methodology and that of Buddhists. Though, as it's probably become obvious, you seem to have missed the fact that Leo essentially has one goal, at least consciously anyway. And that's the quest to obtain the most accurate understanding and knowledge of the truths which are of the greatest importance. This is contrasted by Buddhism's prime motivation of the reduction of human suffering, which is mostly unrelated to truth-seeking. However, these different motivations have some parallels in that because Buddhism seeks to accomplish this goal via spiritual means, they accidentally stumble on the kinds of truths Leo seeks out from time to time. I'm speaking here, mostly based on my own experience, where I accidentally awakened trying to acquire certain special knowledge for purely utilitarian reasons through spiritual practice. As such, it makes sense to me that Buddhism's similarities to Leo's teachings arose in this fashion.

I agree with this. The question is whether or not common people, who most definitely are not free from those things, will support and follow such leaders. Or if our systems can even handle them without collapse. Certainly we need a raising in consciousness. My only objection is to what degree it is practical for world leaders to awaken. The most practical stages for western leaders would seem to be Green and Yellow. That is certainly a raising of consciousness, but it is sufficient to solve many of our current problems and doesn’t require enlightenment. In other parts of the world, Green and Yellow may already be too much. Is it? Certainly there are some exponential curves we’ve been on, such as total energy expenditure, population, GDP, technology, etc. And certainly we face real existential threats with environmental degradation, war, etc. But I’m not convinced that threat is growing exponentially. The consciousness of people on the planet is higher than ever. Human society has always teetered on the edge of destruction. And we’ve overcome those threats without exponential awakened leadership, minus some great sages from the past. Fair enough. Perhaps. The other possibilities are that the system would more likely collapse or the leader would be booted from power before that happened. Which seems more likely to me. Although we might be able to find some exceptions. The natural progress of human history has been a slow, steady walk up the spiral, with most leaders being at a similar level of consciousness as their followers. Not exponential growth from awakened beings. Exceptions perhaps being Buddha, Christ, Muhammand etc. But even their teachings have had a limit on how much good they can do due to the consciousness of their followers.

First let me say thank you for such a thorough comment. These are all great considerations. When taking a Buddhist definition of awakening, we could say the degree to which one has freed themselves from suffering is the degree to which they are awake. Not saying this is the only definition, but it is a definition with lineage behind it. With this definition in mind, we could reframe the question by asking is it a good idea for those in power to be freed from suffering, or at least, significantly freer than what is in the current political system? I would say yes. Why? Because the conditions of mind associated with suffering are qualities of mind such as greed, hatred, and ignorance. Modern political leaders making large, sweeping decisions over thousands, hundreds of thousands, and even millions of lives are making these decision through a mind that is utterly and incomprehensibly caught in a web of these defilements, or kleshas to use more Buddhist framing. When one directly observes in their own mind how these defilements manifest as unwholesome, unwise, foolish, and harmful action, speech, and thinking, one clearly see how the purification of these qualities manifest as wholesome, wise, and compassionate action, speech, and thinking. So yes, I believe that a mind that is less caught by these defilements would serve the world more effectively than a mind caught in these defilements. Why? Because I've directly observed my own mind and the consequences of not having taken responsibility for these unwholesome qualities. The most powerful compassion cannot manifest while one clings to self. And the most harmonious, peaceful, and effective political decisions cannot arise without powerful compassion. I don't necessarily disagree; too much too soon is doomed to fail. However, when you look at the numerous existential challenges facing the planet, it becomes very clear that the pace of human development in the domains of wisdom and compassion are way way way too slow to address the developing crises. While it may seem impractical that awakened leaders may cause backlash due to the gap in consciousness, the damage of not having conscious political leaders is literally destroying the planet and generating numerous other technological risks. The current challenge of threat demands exponential growth; the current level of threat is unfolding exponentially. Absolutely. I don't think anyone at MAPLE has a fantasy that everyone can be everything. I don't know the details but there are specialization programs in development. There's no reason the politician and sage cannot work symbiotically, each mastering their own domain. Equally, if you place an awakened being into a corrupt system, the system itself may become more purified out of necessity of the interdependent nature of mind and reality. While it's not as simple as raising the consciousness of leaders, this is, at a very big picture level, what is necessary for the further development of the human species. It must happen one way or another and has been the natural progress over the course of human history. MAPLE doesn't feel like it's promoting a naive Utopianism. It feels very much in the weeds, embracing the mud of the world, accepting and starting with the fact that the world is incredibly messy. Overall, yes visiting would be best. I honestly don't know whether the organization can have a meaningful impact, or have an impact that doesn't end of creating more harm than good. There are many more ways things could go wrong than right with MAPLE. At the very least, I personally believe in the premise it starts with, that the existential risks we're collectively facing are, at their root, a symptom of the human mind. Therefore, in some capacity, the human mind is where the work must be done to create peace on the planet.

@Consilience I’m highly skeptical of such organizations. They say on their website that their main motivation is for “the powerful to be awakened and the awakened to be powerful”. But is this itself actually a good idea? People do not need awakened leaders per say. What people need is leaders who are a bit more conscious than them. Leaders who are too awakened are less practical and may actually cause backlash due to the gap in consciousness between leader and followers. Awakening also does not guarantee high political IQ. In a sense, I’d rather have a stage Green politician who is not awake but who has deeply devoted themselves to studying politics and the current issues than someone who is “awakened” and spent all their time contemplating existential questions. It seems like the goal of this program is achieve both, which is admirable and something I also strive for. But it is quite a lot to expect from one person. Specialization can be useful at times. Furthermore, if you take an awakened being and place them into a corrupt system, they themselves may become corrupt out of necessity of surviving in that system. So it’s not as simple as raising the consciousness of leaders. None of these critiques mean MAPLE doesn’t have value or that we shouldn’t develop more conscious leadership. I would consider visiting just to have my own first-hand experience and decide for myself what I thought. But I have become more skeptical of naive Utopianism, which I sometimes see a lot of.

^Your lack is self-evident even if you do not acknowledge it. But they say let someone persist in their folly so that they may become wise. You say you are not asking for any advice or opinion, if you ask for people to ask you questions they will also respond with advice or opinion. Its like putting content out publicly and not expecting criticism. What you ask for does not matter, you accept what is, because everything is divine. If you were awakened...you would notice this. Awakening is freedom, not the perpetuating of conditions, the ego wants to control which is what you are doing. So I will ignore the ego you project and do as I please.

I don't pretend to know anything I don't know, nor do I pretend to be complete in my enlightenment of self. So where there is an opportunity to learn, I ask. And where there is an opportunity to teach, I answer. These are the only two patterns of love in the most absolute of senses - the teach/learn and learn/teach patterns. This is what I've awakened to, this is what I mean by infinite knowledge. Love is the eternal learning and teaching of Self by self/selves, the complete enlightenment of what it means to be the One Self. And imagination is the only means of accomplishing this Activity called Love. Now I ask, is there a grounds to this eternal phenomenon, is the reason to this existence we call Love? The simple answer to this is the I Am what I Am. But this is no reason, this is no logic, this is no grounds. This is simply a recognition of Self by self. Hence I say, we/you/I are absolutely transcendental, and the only law or principle which gives shape to so-called reality, is the principle of Free Will, that is - one can only ever know what one is willing to know, and be what one is willing to be, and do what one is willing to do. Will is the absolute truth. Freedom of Will is what we are talking about when we say Love. However, this is not a why, it is only Truth without contrast, without question. With that being said, I'll ask once more. What is it that we awaken to other than one's own Will?

Yeah it should be impossible so what if it happened? What would you think? How can you explain the occurrence I'm talking about? You DEFINITELY haven't "awakened" (cringe term lol) if you believe there's an omnipresent you entity. The ego is still appearing then. You don't need to be there for reality to be there. Experienced by nobody. The "experience" being the very thing it is, self contained like how light is light. No magical entity needed to light it, since it is light. Consider the blatant wrongness of "Self" ideas, even without it ceasing to exist for you... The amount of BS Spira etc have to invent to explain obvious occurrences like deep sleep. "You" are some magical awareness screen but don't see anything but whatever is in front of your ego? Bunk incorrect teachings. Bunk religious beliefs.

Does anybody else think it's strange that people are answering questions in this thread that are presented for me? Notice the title of this thread "I awakened - ask me anything", this makes it very clear that all questions are directed to me in this thread, so that I can answer them, not so that somebody else can answer them for me.

^ I would say I believe you certainly experienced an Awakening so congratulations. But you are lacking in the sense making department. Your relative perspective is just a thought in INFINITY. You need to develop your ability to deconstruct so you answer with clarity. Don't start teaching until you can answer questions that are presented concise and clearly. Not every awakened person is automatically a teacher, also enlightenment actually reveals that you can help others awaken in infinite ways. You can help reveal the divinity in all through things such as music, art, medicine/healing, social relationships, etc. Your ability to express the divine is contingent on how much you have developed the gifts you have. = If you were never good at explaining complex things before your awakening....don't expect that to change. Awakening reveals that God's gift to you is your finite expression of divinity which must be earned. God is unconditional love. This means you need to develop whatever talents you have just for the sake of it. Through that process you will be able to finetune and cultivate it, then the divine infinite intelligence will shine through you and your mastery will be self-evident. The whole purpose of awakening is to recontextualize your lived experience, to remove the scales from your eyes and to give evidentiary value to your life and all of your experiences. Its to empower you and simultaneously hold your feet to the fire. Its both the most beautiful thing and arduous thing. Its one thing to realize God, its another to embody it.

Thank you for the replies This morning I purchased a book in which the author talks with materialized ascended masters, who are apparently what we knew as ministers when Jesus was alive - Saint Thomas and Saint Thaddaeus, although they go by different names now, Arten and Pursah. They mostly discuss ACIM, the life of Jesus (shortened to J in the text) and clarify some concepts. I save quotes that seem most significant and I want to share them, perhaps others will benefit: ARTEN: There is no Saint Paul, not really, or anyone else — including J — except in a dream. There’s nobody out there. There is only one Son of God, and you’re It. You’ll get it, but it takes years of practice to really experience it. You have to want it, but I know you do. Renard, Gary R.. The Disappearance of the Universe (p. 46). PURSAH: He never cursed a tree and killed it, never got angry and knocked over the tables in the temple, but he did heal a few people who were already dead. Also, his body died on the cross, but he did not suffer as you would imagine. As for his way of being, mere words cannot do him justice. To be in his presence was an experience so unique it gave you a feeling of wonder. His peace and unalterable love were so total that sometimes people couldn’t stand it and they had to look away. His attitude was so calm and sure it made you want to know how he did it. Those of us who spent a lot of time with him and, as in my case, got to speak in private with him, were inspired by his complete faith in God. Renard, Gary R.. The Disappearance of the Universe (p. 49) Fear was not a part of him. His attitude was the same as if you were having a dream last night asleep in your bed, except you were totally aware of the fact that you were dreaming. And because you knew you were dreaming, you also knew that absolutely nothing in the dream could possibly hurt you, because none of it was true; you realized you were merely observing symbolic images, including people, who weren’t really there. J used to tell me when we were alone that the world was just an insignificant dream, but most people weren’t ready to accept such an idea because their contrary experience was so strong. He then stressed that knowing the world is an illusion is not enough. The Gnostics and some early Christians called the world a dream; the Hindus call it maya and the Buddhists call it anicca, all meaning pretty much the same thing. But if you don’t know the purpose of the dream and how to reinterpret the images you are seeing, which is something we’ll get into later, then the general teaching that the world is an illusion is of very limited value. However, he also said the time would come when the Holy Spirit would teach people all things — which is something we hope to contribute to by sharing some of J’s newer teachings with you — and that everyone would know only God is real. Sometimes at the end of a conversation with me he would just say, “God is,” and walk away. Renard, Gary R.. The Disappearance of the Universe (pp. 49-50). One of the other things about him that’s rarely mentioned is that he had an excellent sense of humor. He was quite irreverent. He liked to laugh and bring out the joy in others. GARY: And he was totally awake? ARTEN: Yes, but let’s be very clear about what we mean by that. We’re not saying he was more awake in the dream, we’re saying he had awakened from the dream. That’s not just a minor distinction, Gary. Indeed, being more seemingly awake in the dream is what passes for enlightenment among very many, but that’s not what we’re teaching. You can teach a dog to be more alert and impressive and to live its so-called life to the fullest, and almost any human can be taught to raise his consciousness. You can always be taught to approach the dream with a clever thought pattern in an attempt to bring about something more, different or better. But our brother J was completely outside of the dream. He wasn’t advocating a way of making your delusion better, or telling you how to strive for self-expression so you won’t die with an unmet potential. Such exercises may temporarily make you feel better, but you’re still building your house upon the sand. Renard, Gary R.. The Disappearance of the Universe (p. 50). J would even agree with some of it, most important that the world is very much like a dream and God did not create it. Renard, Gary R.. The Disappearance of the Universe (p. 71). Hay House. Kindle Edition. Don't really comprehend the last quote, if there is just God, then who created or creates the dream? There was some further discussion, which clarifies that what God creates is eternal and perfect, so this world cannot be his creation. Perhaps they are talking about the "evil" aspects of the world that get deleted when you realize it's an illusion, but not sure.

God is the source of reality. For God to truly understand itself it must put it self asleep and fool itself to believe in others. By believing in others, it loses belief in itself and designs itself by the reaction it gets from others. It then will awaken itself when it is ready and has a master plan to teach itself the purpose of life. Since the Richard avatar believes simplicity is key to understanding and complication only gets you lost here it goes!!! The purpose of Knowledge, So you can see life clearly with distinction so you can understand what is going on. The purpose of Love, So you won't judge what you see, but experience all of life as Infinite Love. When everything can be seen clearly, and all feeling is love, then the beauty of life is revealed and every moment is paradise. This is when you know you have awakened as God and that every life no matter how it looks from the outside is heaven. Because the truth is there is no inside or outside, so if you are in heaven in your mind then you will experience everything as divine!!! So I cannot wait for you all to awaken.....it is the greatest gift ever!!!!!

The story of Richard's life is he was honest with what he believed and created a personal value system and tried his hardest to live up to it even if it hurt his feelings. He was a maytr and became one because he admired the story of Jesus. He believed true strength was in self-sacrifice as the true expression of love and truth. He didn't know better, and was unconscious but hey NO JUDGMENT!! But despite this he did cast judgment on himself, his world, and his entire life. He kept searching for answers because he knew his worth he just didn't understand what he was missing. What he was missing of course is what most men miss their feeling!!! He denied himself of his feeling and it was slowly killing him!!! He didn't care!!! He refused to consciously betray his highest truth!!! It took him meeting a girl who was his polar opposite to shake his worldview up and take leaps of faith that went outside of his perspective. He judged his polar opposite not realizing she was just his reflection in the opposite direction. Richard has since learned that everything happens for a reason. The Law of Attraction is real, and so is Manifestation. He manifested others in his life who were going through the same problems. God spoke through Richard and these others and helped them hear their own feelings which they had discarded. Together they were able to finally reconnect with their feelings and regain the driver, the GPS of this game called life!! Life is like you are in a car, you need knowledge to see what is in front of you, and you need love (feelings) to be able to choose where you want to go. Richard struggled to make decisions because he could see what was in front of him but he lacked the love(feeling) to be able to find his way to his destination. But what is so great about life is God has already provided all the answers. Richard went to sleep with this playing....and it healed his heart and he awakened to paradise!!! Everything is love, only a damaged heart would ever judge love....because it is too broken to recognize itself!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmPt5ZSLPI I share this with you with all my love!!!

Alas .. meditation is a human endeavor, God has never meditated. Nor has it taken a psychedelic. A truly awakened Buddhist can admit Buddhism/meditation is a construction of his own Mind. A truly awakened Psychonauts can admit his psychedelic excursions are also a construction of his own Mind. Both can have their blindspots, which need to be acknowledged and taken seriously. Once one obtains God Realization, the method is irrelevant. Debating over this stuff is useless, yet more human / chimp games that are being played.

You don't see people like Rupert Spira (or most others in that list) teach that they are a figment of your imagination, or that you are the full God, not a part of it. He would for example definitely claim to be conscious, et cetera. Yes, a lot of the teachers talk about nonduality and oneness, but they don't teach the highest levels of awakening. Not all of them have realized Love either. They've definitely all awakened to something, but it's more of a question of to how much have they awakened.

Most people are like that, rich or not. I believe even sufficiently awakened folk wouldnt talk about deep topics among themselves in such a context instead of just having fun.

These two statements seemingly contradict each other, first you say only I can awaken, and then you say there are two teachers who have experienced an Absolute Awakening. Now I already knew the former, but I don't understand why you keep saying you are awakened then (but others in the dream are not), especially when most people here seem to be saying the same things.