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HAHA Nice try. The Truth you are talking about is Consciousness-Awareness-Suchness, Sat-Chit-Ananda. It is formless and boundless. We are all conscious and we are all aware, we all consciously experience qualia that appear in a boundless space of Awareness, so correct: Consciousness is not a concept but a fact of our direct experience. This is elementary stuff, don't assume that you are the only one "awakened" here. What you fail to realize that it is only your belief (idea) that there is nothing that exists beyond Consciousness. The fact that all you can ever know or experience is only the content of conscious experience does not mean that there is nothing beyond what can be consciously experienced (in other words, beyond Consciousness).
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Okay so I've been meditating for a couple years but I didn't really know what I was doing until a couple weeks ago. And WOWWWW. Seriously how do most people not know about this? My first glimpse of enlightenment was about a month ago and I was doing neti neti whilst high on weed and man that was some crazy shit. It felt really alien. I suddenly realised that there is no experiencer and all there is and ever was is experience. And yeah this felt really really alien. I felt like I just discovered orgasms for the first time hahaha. And now when I meditate I gradually gain more minfulness and thoughts start to fade into noise and everything becomes 'noise' ( neutral and there isn't anything that is more significant than any other thing ) and once that happens I feel like a key has just been taken out of the lock. And I'm not attached to my thoughts, I'm not convinced that I am my thoughts, or my sight or my senstations anymore and not in that problem solving mode. It's fucking beautiful and so alien at the same time. I often feel a wave of energy run through me as this happens like a vibration. that just coarses through me and I'm suddenly non attached to anything. Then this fades and I'm attached to thoughts again. And then I notice I'm talking to myself in my head about how enlightened I am lmao. And then I realise this is ego. And I'm back in square one. And I cannot go more than 20 minutes without an uncontrollable urge to move and open my eyes. Also when I opened my eyes after my most recent meditation everything was as if I have never seen it before, like I had new eyes or I was just born. and it gradually fades into my regular everyday state. I also experience mild closed eye visuals whilst this is happening and a ringing in my ears. But for the most part it feels like I've fallen out of my thoughts. Anyone else experience anythign similar? Was that falling out of thoughts the void? And if so how can I make it last and not attach myself to the ego? EDIT: Also I'm noticing how because I'm not in that state anymore I cannot really grasp what that's like. Is this falling out of thoughts thing of any significance? Am I going crazy? Is this just the ego playing tricks and deluding itself into believing it's enlightened? EDIT: I also feel weird presences or like someone is watching me whilst meditating but that fades too as i focus on my breath. I also see different colours as this state comes on and it looks a lot like the northern lights. EDIT: I know this is the third edit lmao but I'm also noticing how whenever this state comes on it's like my mind doesnt want me to see it. it diverts my attention. This is some freaky shit maaaan And I get it now how when leo said its like a scratch on the top of your head turns into finding a zip then slowly unzipping yourself from yourself. EDIT: I don't know if this is psychosis coming on or if it was enlightenment. It feels pretty good. EDIT: My hands feel like just hands and not like i own them ownership is a delusion. What the fuck is happening? Am I delusional and just imagining I'm enlightened? if anyone knows then pls tell me what is happening. Should I ask a psychiatrist if I'm sane? EDIT: So my regular state where im attached to thoughts is literally insane because everything is fundamentally neutral and just noise and believing that it's something more is craziness. And that means everyone else is insane too. But I know what sane is now. what the fuck EDIT: How do I know this is not my mind playing tricks on me making me believe I've experienced enlightenment? When really I'm just imagining it EDIT: I feel pretty regular now and I cannot really understand it unless im in that state. I cannot unsee this though :DD i feel exactly the same as before I meditated today but really really aware EDIT: I have no idea what the fuck i was talking about anymore lmao wtf EDIT: Now I see that attachments are like lenses on the truth ( pure conciousness or neutrality as i said ) But I'm not in that state anymore I just get it EDIT: Okay so it's the next day and I feel basically the same as before. I think that I try to rationalise what is happening and I begin to believe that my rationalisations are enlightenment. I don't look at it as crazy anymore. more like really sane.
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As I watched this video for the third time (my last watch was 6 months ago) I was jumping out of my seat at the insights I received. In our past lifetimes we have already awakened the mind, we have already experienced ourselves as infinite consciousness and we have already become one with God. In this lifetime, we have forgotten our own personal awakening, and so are trying to watch our egos as if it is the enemy for us to once again "transcend it's limitations" in a never-ending spiritual crusade, but this journey is no longer useful in this day of age. Non-dual teachers are being replaced with heart-centered teachers because the divine masculine has woken up, and now it is time for our divine feminine to follow in its line, through opening up our hearts in the most committed, and loving way possible, that each of us deserves to experience and will eventually experience in this lifetime or the next. No longer is the spiritual path about transcending the ego, but instead committing to reality, by letting each one of our thoughts, and emotions be seen, heard and felt as we take up the role of the kind mother or father we never had; or the best friend we always wanted. I recommend for everyone to watch the entire video. It explains everything I have said in unending depth that will save you years on your spiritual path. Years where you avoided your heart by not embracing your thoughts, emotions, and whatever is in front of your face by instead following a non-dual guru who will only lead you to a place you have already mastered. I had to come back to tell you all this, and I hope you can see the simplicity of what I am saying. That in the past we have been told to push everything away, accept what is, and put ourselves under a spiritual microscope to spot the ego and remove it like a parasite. And now, whether you like it or not, we are here to embrace the living shit out of our ego, at the rate you love your heart, at the rate you love whatever arises in your life Many blessings. Here is the most inspiring part of the video, but watch it all if it is possible, thank you for reading:
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michaelcycle00 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But what’s taught here is that there are no other beings to begin with. Only your POV/field of view is all that exists. So if I’m taking a shit in the bathroom and awakened then and there, what beings are there to dissolve into consciousness? None at all. -
YogiCosmos replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is all interesting. But this is conceptualization and living in the mind. The true reality is of being. This simple message will get lost in the unawakened minds that read this. It’s okay. Perceiving others and the world as an illusion is of duality. “Other” is an illusion… that implies there’s another that’s not real. For true non-duality, subject and object have to collapse into one. All is real and all is also not real. True totality must be lived from a baseline of being. What does this mean? The world, the ego and this dream is inclusive of the totality of non-duality. Everything is that. True non-duality is inclusive of ego, creation, other, Self, and no-thingness. Solipsism is only true when totality is lived 24/7, not conceptualized or experienced. You can imagine how hard this is to put into words. But the dream is real and also unreal. Sorry guys. This also means you cannot spiritually bypass humanness. Many awake teachers view themselves and the world as an illusion and think they are above their shadows. They view themselves as the only awake entity in this universe. Hence, abuse occurs in their spiritual circles. Unresolved karma surfaces when awakened and plays out. Seeing the world and others as an illusion is the second step of evolution in perceiving reality. This is where many get stuck. The third step is seeing the world as divine play. The fourth step is transcending and seeing the world as uncreated in nothingness. The last step is seeing that the cause of creation is just pure divine power. -
I've been confronting so much fear lately. I've been noticing how it is running my life. Examples of how I was scared in the last few days: In social situations: how I'm afraid of offending someone or causing disruption I was scared and worried because I was procrastinating on some quite important things Big one: I'm most likely going on a student exchange programme for the next semester. Living in a foreign country without anyone familiar nearby, on the other side of the continent. A lot of fears associated with this exchange thing. Soooo much I have to get done. And it's just scary, it's going to be my first time living on my own. Man. But I'm happy it's happening. Long story short I damaged my front tooth two weeks ago. The dentist fixed it for me but it's no longer straight and it literally cannot be anymore. I've always had straight teeth. Now I don't. It hurts. Fear of embarassment, smallness. Insecurity. Anxiety. My mom and sister tell me they can't even see it but I do. I can overcome this fear when I notice it, notice the thoughts and remind myself that this isn't me. I am not from this world, yet I am all of this world. Oh, btw, I had a profound completely sober awakening this week. Deeper than the ones I had on psychedelics. So it's not that I'm convincing myself intellectually that this is not me. Well, anyways, that's not the topic right now. I've been thinking and I'm coming to the conclusion that the IT industry is not for me. I've been studying CS for 2 and a half years already, my parents have been paying for it. But now for the first time in 3 years I harnessed the courage to think about this and notice that I'm NOT about this computer science bullshit. I want to do something humanistic, related to writing somehow. I'm seriously considering becoming a comic, writer. I came up with a life purpose which feels authentic to me. To convey spiritual truths through comedy. Not to brag but I think I have a cool sense of humor, especially like spontaneous responses, people really enjoy my jokes, stories and all. I already have ideas for what I would make shows about. Ok I'm getting off track again. I'm obviously scared of disappointing my parents. Also, they've been paying for my education and I'm finishing it soon. So what, it all just goes to waste? I'm not blaming myself because I think that going into computer science was the best choice I could have made with what I knew about myself at the time. I'm proud of that decision. But now I discovered more about myself and I feel like I can't do this shit. But are my parents gonna understand it? Fear. Fear of not-knowing. Today I confronted it after long contemplation on some matters and at some point I thought: how about I accept that I don't know? Could I accept that I will never know this? Would I accept a life like this? I was scared, but also I enjoyed the thrill of sitting in this not-knowing with fear trying to encompass me. Nodding my head in a social situation when someone is saying something. An unconscious reaction stemming from fear of being cast off from my group of peers. Also I want others to nod their heads when I'm saying something. Credit to Vernon Howard for making me conscious of this, and many other things. I see myself doing this. Now that my front teeth is weaker I literally fear biting my lips and fingers which I've been doing for so long. Maybe it's for the better, lol. My lips and hands don't look so good. Maybe I will stop now. I'm quite nervous. I'm only just learning to seriously notice fear in the moment and let go. I wanna cry right now. I've been noticing and overcoming so much fear with the light of consciousness. Am I getting weak now again? HAHAHAHA. I'm trying to notice it. Lol btw, this year I must have cried like 70-100 times. AAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Fucking fear hahahahaha!!! I love Spotify wrapped so much. Did you get yours? Mine brought back so many feelings and memories. My music taste was so good this year I love myself for it HAHAHAHAHAHAHA About this awakening I mentioned. It was amazing. For a second, I was immersed in a divine ocean of blissful peace and love. I was kissed on the forehead by sweet love and bliss itself. All sober, for fucks sake! My belief that meditation cannot compare to psychedelics has been shattered. I did it with my consciousness, on my fucking own! I remember it. I was contemplating what I am and I encountered much fear but I was able to see through these empty thoughts and let go into this pureness, infinity that I am. Psychedelics awakenings are undoubtedly cool, but here I kind of awakened manually and it was so satisfying and to be honest more beautiful and deeper than awakenings I've had so far. I recognized myself as Existence and realized there is nothing 'other' from me. I am Existence! And this universe is all a dream, it's fucking empty, it's just me. Reality is not real. It's all just me. Again, I am not from this world and yet this world is all that is and all that I am. I am Reality, I am the Source. I was a hidden treasure and I wanted to be known, so I created the world. Words can't describe Me. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. This image goes hard. That's how I often feel now when I look at things. Gosh it's all just so much. HAHAHAHAHA. The Freedom. If I overcome fear, I CAN DO ANYTHING! This is what life is all about!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What are You waiting for? Do You want to be a puppet on strings your whole life?
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Moksha replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I feel this is why Neo-Advaita teachings ring hollow for many of us. Platitudes about there being no you sound mysterious and wise, but are they useful? Each being is worthy of honor. You are unique and even holy, because of who inhabits you. There will never be another personality identical to yours, and the spiritual journey of Self-discovery through the lens of your personality is entirely special and your own. Celebrate and respect it. It is not that your personality isn't real, it is that it is only relatively real. The universe and every being in it exist, but they are not absolute. Einstein proved this. Relative reality is in the eye of the perceiver. Space and time are not ultimately real. This becomes obvious when we push space and time to their extremes, at the macro- or micro-levels of reality. Quantum and astrophysics reveal the fraying ends of the universal matrix that we inhabit. Science supports spirituality, beyond what most people realize. Still, science is bound to the laws of the relative universe. The thinking mind will never directly realize Consciousness. It can suggest what is possible, but awakening is inherently non-conceptual. If you have awakened, questions become irrelevant. They are the conditioned mind trying to understand a spiritual experience which is beyond the ability of the mind to comprehend. -
Thought Art replied to Thought Art's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
By the end of the book I gained the sense that he didn’t really now what reality was and just had a bunch of beliefs despite being hard on beliefs. I can’t help but assume Leo is the same way. I’m throwing you guys out. One minute Leo says it’s just me, next he says it’s just him, then Jed says it’s just him and then just me. But, then he says there could be an infinite amount of absolute consciousnesses, but, wasn’t it just consciousness? I’m not conscious of these things. Then Leo says he doesn’t have his own consciousness. But claims to trip and have God Realizations. Okay, so a dream character is some pseudo teacher for infinite mind to dream some reason it awakened because it had this teacher? That’s weird. And, why me? Why this dumbass? God, ya make no fucking sense! Give me a call sometime and clarify a few things. All I have a are idiots authors and Gurus and I’d like to speak to the real deal. So, basically your both fired when it comes to truth. If God and Truth has a number in the yellow pages please send me the number. -
Ego can be split into 3 aspects: 1. We are separate. Stories revolve around why and how we are separate. 2. Emotional attachments to the stories of us and others 3. What Adyshanti refers to as the root identity. This is unconscious and primal. Legit fear of death and obliteration. In the awakened, many have not yet overcome the primary root identity under #3. When that finally falls away, all that is left is no-thing. True non-duality can then unfold. Until then, it’s all just concepts and mind games. #3 needs to truly happen to live and embody non-duality 24/7.
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Razard86 replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes its an interesting game God plays with itself. Its why I get why the Buddha sees everyone as awakened already. When I talk to friends about this stuff...when it starts making too much sense....they RUN. Be like oh yeah I gotta go. One of my friends was like oh shoot that makes too much sense the other day and told me he had to run!!! LOL. God knows the truth on the unconscious level but will only awaken when they are ready. Its why each ego needs to understand it wanted to be here. I know it doesn't feel like that...but its true. -
YogiCosmos replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks for sharing intimately Razard. I too had a lot of childhood trauma and physical abuse growing up. The awakening journey over the years has brought up tons of sludge to face and clear. I’ve also noticed that I would unconsciously associate myself with people and situations that correlated with a childhood trauma. Karma certainly has a way to seek resolution by repeatedly bringing up the shadows. Meditation and going into samadhi has helped clear much of the energetic debris. But there is much more to cleanse. It has also made me aware of the shadows that loom in me. Just because I am awakened doesn’t mean I can bypass the shadows… this would create dangerous blind spots that I often see in awakened teachers. They would act out their unresolved trauma with their students, for example. -
roopepa replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Enlightenment is not a state of consciousness. Enlightenment is consciousness. No-one becomes awakened, no-one becomes conscious of truth. Yeah, cause your awakenings and realizations are thought-stories, thought-attachment. ? Also, are you open to acknowledge how you're really feeling in every moment? Are you open to acknowledge suffering? Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?" -
There aren’t truly any nice guys. masculine guys are fucking “assholes”. The nice masculine guys just haven’t awakened to the fact that they (all) have huge egos and are way less compassionate and emotional than the feminine. also, you don’t need to be toxic to become the leader of a household and sexually dominant over one woman…. I mean if you wanna be a playboy that to me is the toxicity right there. The truth is I want to channel my huge ego to spread across my survival needs and one woman and all of our children and then a secondary priority to take care of people that my wife cares about unless my logic knows that they are actually exploiting my family. Use the huge ego for good…. Not trying to get pussy… what is that bullshit man cmon. im not married or conservative (disclosure)
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Vlad_ replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've created gurus in order to distract and entertain myself. No one can awaken but me, although I can imagine some gurus being awakened. -
Breakingthewall replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
well said. Awakening with psychedelics is not an end, it is a means. a means for an awakened life. What you want is to live in the truth 24 hours a day. psychedelics will indicate your degree of impurity, of lies, of fear. you have to polish yourself and polish your life so that the truth is as close as possible to the surface, so that your life is awake, beautiful, wonderful. without lies and without fear. I don't want to be a psychonaut, I want to use psychedelics to make this life an expression of the truth -
@Leo Gura be honest ..why did you ban him? It can't be his "Neo-Advaita " jargon..because he was like that for years on the forum and you could observe it . So what really happend in your last communication with him about there not being a" separate self " who can awaken? I agree that he was kinda annoying with his overly pedantic replies that he almost was spamming the forum with his neo advaita jargon...but you know very well that he has sound degree of awakening. This type of awakened person can give you the finest type of awakening without taking a dime or saying a word to you. Very rare indeed but still available. These are Masters. I joined his forum and I consider him awakened. The problem is he has too much clarity and he is witty which is why he feel to you like ”alien” or ”wierdo” and don’t fit in well at all. The people who think ”outside the box..are usually misunderstand . Growing up thinking that theres something wrong with their personality. These are the awakened, and when they find their spiritual path (which they eventually do), they become powerhouses of light to people around them.
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inFlow replied to YogiCosmos's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@YogiCosmos The aura or halo is only depicted in art to show an "awakened" being. It's not literally happening that you get a halo lol. -
I've had too many experiences of being desirable and wanted while being less attractive and it was because people were able to read my vibration at the time while barely knowing me. It isn't woo-woo. If your vibration (feminine or awakened energy for example) is on point and the other person's capacity to read energy is on point then it works. I'm trying to support the feminine and give her a voice. An awakened feminine's energy is very beautiful and people are drawn to her like a moth to a flame.
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r0ckyreed replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How does it not? It sounds like Heaven and Love to my ears. I don’t think an awakened mind cares anymore “improving your experience of life.” What more is there to do if you realize that your existential nature is complete and identical to God? -
Vladimir replied to Vladimir's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
As a human being, I am the first one who has truly awakened. I am the first one who is enlightened. I am the first one who got to know the Truth. I am the only one who could have gotten to know the Truth. With my awakening others will follow, others will be saved from death, others will know the Truth, it's a wonderful process. We are distinct bubbles (Universes) of consciousness. You and I are not the same being. My awakening is the best thing that could have happened for myself, you, everybody in the world and the entire Universe. The entire Universe already knows I have awakened (on the highest Divine level) and the entire Universe is guiding me in every single moment towards further embodiment of the beauty of Truth that I am. Rejoice knowing that eternal Paradise is inevitable, you have fulfilled your life purpose with your entire life. I am grateful to you for everything. -
I've been on the forum basically since the start and I think at the beginning, no one really knew what shape it would take and what kind of people it would attract. So it definitely interested me to have a community of people interested in talking about consciousness and non-duality and looking at society from a different perspective. Before i get into my criticisms I want to give some positives, its really great that you can meet and potentially build relationships with people interested in this stuff, theres not a lot of people that are that I come across in my life anyway, so this is cool. Also a lot of great resources get posted which can lead to going down new paths and learning new ideas. Now for the fun part... My main criticism is that I think Leo underestimates how much foundational growth people need to do before they start trying to realise things like god-consciousness and I believe this forum encourages them to bypass basic work they need to do in the real world which will help them grow. Most people come on here I believe because in some way they arent fulfilled by life, theyre looking for a way out. I would say the demographic on here is relatively young lets say 20s, in which case its not people who have lived 50 years and become disillusioned with their path, its those that dont want to face the everyday struggle of looking after yourself, working, going into the world. It can be a daunting prospect, especially if you have unaddressed traumas or parents that have coddled you or youre always online and have never really experienced life. Its natural that if you dont feel prepared you will look for a workaround, an easier way out, this is the human condition. I believe enlightenment is being unconsciously sold as this workaround, if you are looking for a way out in the way ive outlined, and you stumble upon Leos videos and hes talking about ultimate bliss and how it can be realised, something will hit home because there is truth in what Leo says, but you will only be attempting to bypass the hard but essential parts of life. I think people have the idea that, if i get enlightened everything else will fall into place, to me this is fantasy, it does not work like this. Maslows Hierarchy as well as Ken Wilburs model, which states you should 'grow up, clean up, wake up then show up'. No one puts waking up first, even spiral dynamics requires that you go through the lower stages and first and get to healthy versions of them. Because of the nature of any forum, ego does come into play and i think people tend to peg themselves higher on SD, but again this is just another form of bypassing, there is demonisation sometimes of blue and orange but i dont think people realise how important these are to incorporate for your life, its very important that you have structure, discipline, you know how to make money etc. I believe most people on the forum arent content because these things are not in order, its nothing to do with them not being enlightened. You will be surprised at how mch your state can change once you take responsibility for yourself, talk to more people, cook for yourself, workout etc. People who have never attempted to talk to the opposite sex, had a job, lived by themselves etc in my opinion should not be worried about Alien love or the highest levels of awakening. The reality is they want to do all those things and more but for whatever reason they dont feel they can, their striving for higher levels of consciousness is just avoidance and i think until they sort themselves out spirituality will almost be a means to an end. If you notice a lot of the people that I wouldve considered quite healthy higher stage people have actually left the forum or post very rarely and its just because of where the forum actually is. Im not criticising anyone for being at any level, thats part of the journey but i think its a bit of an illusion that this is a high level forum. I think this forum is people on their journey, working it out but have been seduced by the idea that they can be awakened mainly through psychedelics and will be able to skip big chunks of the journey. Im not saying that you shouldnt be interested in non-duality or Leos ideas, they of course can help and give you a new perspective on the world. What im saying is that dont expect them to be a way out of anything. Take joy in normal life, dont try to escape, level up in every aspect.
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Moksha replied to Vladimir's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Borders are imaginary, which awakened waves realize. The wave is not only a wave. It is the expression of the ocean itself, whether it sees it or not. The deep ocean is Self-aware, but it dreams itself into waves. Why? Apparently the dream of phenomenal existence is its intent, an apparent contrast to its infinite and unchanging being. Maybe a complete awakening is equivalent to a universal supernova. All of the waves collapse, and there is only the deep blue sea. Wash, rinse, repeat -
snowyowl replied to Vladimir's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes it seems that way. The universe may be one Consciousness, but it's divided up into fragments some of which 'get it', and most don't. A Self-aware wave is still only a wave. So are we saying that the ocean as a whole isn't Self-aware and there's borders between awakened and non-awakened parts of it? In that case awakened people don't have omniscience, aren't aware of the consciousness of someone like me and there really are separate bubbles. For a complete awakening to occur, don't we all need to be part of it? -
Moksha replied to Vladimir's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The being that is awakened is a wave on the ocean, realizing in that moment that it is the ocean. All waves are the ocean, but few see it. Their form is only temporary, and the ocean is their ultimate nature. The whole universe is Consciousness, but the vast majority of it is not Self-aware.