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@newbee Fear only exists in the relative domain, which is illusory. In absolute truth, only nothingness / non duality "exists" although it is even beyond existence and non-existence. The nothingness is God. They are synonomous. Ultimately speaking God is all there is, and God is nothing. Fear and Love are a duality. Heaven and hell are a duality. Dualities ultimately do not exist. However the Nothingness we speak of here IS what true Love is. So ultimately Reality is pure Love. But pure Love without any contrast is simply nothing, and without fear as a contrast the meaning and the beauty of Love can not be realized. There are no awakened people. When awakening happens, people will dissappear, the illusion of people will be transcended. What remains is pure Love aka God aka Nothingness.

Nothingness is just a word describing the unknowable nature of reality...ie.... if you zoom in close enough on any particle there's simply nothing there..... it becomes ridiculous or unfathomable. Reality is not something to be gotten because it's not even a something..... it's off the scale unknowable sort of speak and yet the appearance is an explosion of light color and sound. It's something and it's simultaneously nothing = 0 ♥

the beauty of intelligent design over nothingness

@Vynce its a woman who talks also I didn t know that first if you are an artist please paint reality collapses into nothingness. Could be a new masterpiece

Looks great! Especially the first stages are quite representative. What he does not describe is the "visually ordinary state" in which reality collapses into nothingness. It's super hard to make a picture from this, but he could've mentioned it as the last state.

What is God? God with a capital G. God is.. God is... God is........ ISness? Words attempting to describe: Enlightenment The one The all Nothingness Non-duality Infinity Absolute infinity Self-realization Presence Being Existence Suchness No self True self (S) The self(S) Mind (M) Universal mind Spirit (S) Revolation Illumination Rebirth Holy Spirit The void Emptiness Nirvana Yoga No Mind Buddha mind Satori The Gateless gate Shiva Allah The greater Jihad Lord Supreme being The all-seeing eye Yewei I Am Creator Kinda hard to find the words to really describe what God is. --- Reputable source: God

This is a little tricky. I accept the fact that I am nothingness. I have confirmed that and am working to accept it. But awareness seems like a sense in nothingness. Therefore I may not be awareness. You wouldn't say that you are your sense of sight. But maybe awareness is like a sense in nothingness too.

Trying to reconcile infinity with the possibility of a finite universe. What if the universe and space-time was curved? Say you create a magnificent spaceship that reaches the absolute end of this universe but at the end you just start back where you began. How can a “closed” system such as this be reconciled with infinity? Is there a nothingness/somethingness beyond this even though it couldn’t be penetrated? It would be ALL but would also be limited. This isn’t easy to convey but essentially if a finite universe was proven to be true how does that reconcile with infinity?

The Gods Speak out - my divine Adam - on the nature of human error and what's in store for us. The scales are not tipped in our favour and this is out of my hands. For myself? A prayer is coming soon. A look into the nature of the bardo states, and more dreams to share with my Adam. Our collective verdict? Well... take a look. See what you can make of it. This is why he cannot be stopped, I suppose. No one can even hear the cries, let alone wishes to change in order to tip the scales in our favour. It Is as I Say, that the wave of collective wrong action rises up and moves through us, a silent plague to take us unexpectedly. Mercy. Mercy. "Blood of the past" "All the many corpses begin to speak What ignorance is cannot be argued over anymore It is too late for pleading white picket dreams Print you off, the shemps, the world is shrinking Rooted in a trivial concern, in interconnectedness In the need to make face and keep up And drown out the many voices within Imagine a culture that has, at its root A more soulful connection to land and to loved ones But I can hear the lie before you speak There is nothing but progress to eat And we are so fat and so hungry And the black wrists are cuffed in the pig van While the white shirt and tie in the tube car, distractional picture Pictures of beer and guilt about urges Sexual distrust and abandoned to nothingness Give me something I can nail myself to Give me a sharply-dressed talking head Who has something about them I trust and despise And what of it, anyway? These windows don't open They were designed to stay closed Shower, smoothie, coffee, commute Check the internet, never stop, never stop There is a scar on the soul of the world and it needs you to look The blood of the past is here, it remains The blood of the murders, the bodies like sacks leaking brain All stacked, chest aback on the planes, it remains To acknowledge without guilt, to accept without condition And to listen when other people tell you how you have behaved Truth is, it's for us to feel and be moved But I hear the clatter of bone against steel, it is coming It will not be stilled, it is there In the air, scorched white The reflection of sunlight on glass bouncing back into sunlight And glass bouncing back, industrialized Denial, business as usual So roll your eyes, shake your head, turn away and call me names I'm okay with that, too proud Unable to listen, we keep speaking Moted by blood, unable to notice ourselves Unable to stop and unwilling to learn"

Yes. What helped me here, since its always a question of definition (for example of the Supreme Witness): You are that which is aware. And the Totality of Reality itself, since it can only show up in that which is aware. But the Totality of Reality is often only seen as that which appears (The appearance side). And that can totally disappear (Deep Sleep), and the real you is still there, unaware of itself, but with a latent capacity for sentience if something appears again (the emptiness or consciousness/aware side). So the question is: How "empty" is the Supreme Witness. When it is so empty that no arisings/feeling (very subtle I-feelings/I-thoughts) arise and appear in the Totality (call it Reality, Infinite Consciousness, God, Dharmakaya, whatever you want), or you clearly see them all as objects/arisings/movements within you, then what you realize yourself to be very obviously is the Totality/Reality/Infinite Consciousness,... . The stage before that is the Supreme Witness, or Empty Witness: Ken Wilber calls that the Empty Witness: Personality, and especially time and space are already transcended, "you" feel the infinite reality as mere appearance, timeless. And always here. But there are still some clusters of sensations arising IN YOU that feel like individuality, or that you are not the unbounded whole, but a feeling of watching it appears in you. You are not all of it, the sensation of "other" still arise a lot in daily life, you dont feel that you what looks from all eyes is the same consciousness that gets clouded by feelings/thoughts of I/me, exactly like how it used to get clouded in you. The realization is neither stable, nor complete. And then at some point you realize that (learn to spot) these arisings/feelings/building blocks of the Supreme Witness or Empty Witness are still left and arising/moving in you. You learn to spot them in a sort of High-Speed-Analysis, recognize them as arisings/objects appearing within you, and you can stop them immediately (subject->object), or just watch them. Then they drop, the Empty Witness drops, and the real you stays. But that is described by some as impersonal, a formulation that I am not totally happy with. Yes, its impersonal, its not the you you thought you were, but its the real you. And that real you "has" or "contains" the personal you moving in it. Then that boosts the nondual state, makes the whole world appear just as mere appearance, an imagined illusion, infinite, groundless, a mirage happening within you (that also starts before, but gets boosted a lot the more the Empty Witness drops). Pretty much a state that Psychedelics cause, but sobre. And with it comes happiness and bliss independend of what happens at that moment, which is the most beautiful aspect of it. If you dont have nonduality and nonseparation and are not aware of the Ground of Being in normal life (while not meditating or tripping), these very subtle arisings/I-feelings/I-thoughts still arise in you and are not spotted with high enough speed to see them for what they are: Sensations of separation arising within the real you. In my experience, you can not force real Nonduality/mere appearance of the totality/world, its an energetic state that gets influenced "indirectly" over how fast you spot these I-thoughts/I-feelings. Here I am fully in line when Leo says you need the right state (of enought nonduality, illusion-like mere appearance of the world, directly feeling it all as mere empty consciousness appearance mirage-arising). When you spot these subtle arisings (building blocks of the separate self and even Empty Witness) fast enough, they arise in you. But you can't force it with willpower, that would be what Daniel Brown in Pointing out the Great Way calls "artifical activity" during the stage of Nonmeditation Yoga (last stage of the 4 Mahamudra stages). It becomes automatic once you understand it at that stage. Its one of the Illusion-Mechanism of Maya that you can't force your way through it with willpower, but you can do it indirectly with understanding how to rest in your true nature. The energetic state of nonduality follows. Its some kind of positive feedback loop, sloping "upwards" if done correctly. I agree with Leo that Nonduality (which ripens) is in its early stages not realization of Ultimate Reality. Daniel Brown for example also. But realization of Ultimate Reality has to be nondual, since its a unity and infinite. And this development can pretty easily stagnate (especially before nonduality even begins to start), and stop if you do something incorrect, or understand something incorrect. Which pretty much happens with 99% of Buddhists. So the separate you disappears, but the real you as Awareness AND the Reality/World stays. So the Illusion-You disappears, but the real you is of course, as always, there. It can not "not be there". That is the Unborn, Reality itself. The real you. And in that area/stage definitions of different authors and traditions get very slippery, since these "feelings" of the Supreme Witness (as you intuit) are very very subtle, and its very easy to identify with them and not notice it. Over the years, I ended up with a metaphor for myself: Zen is like axe to cut a tree. Very robust, works if you do it long enough hard enough pretty foolproof, doesnt need a lot complex theory/stages, but normally takes a long time and is not so pleasant (and in practice for most doesnt deliver the final results, because it takes extreme willpower). More sophisticated versions of Buddhism, with a more detailed map, like Mahamudra/Dzogchen (see for example Brown, Pointing out the Great Way), are like a Forest Harvester: If used correctly very fast, quite pleasant (for the user, probably not for the forest) and comfortable along the path, but quite hard to understand and learn, since language is so slippery in these areas. Like if you want to use a Forest Harvester, and if you dont get explained how it works (like put gas in it, how to drive it, its controls), delivers no result at all. Zen = robust, sit long enough with a Koan and you get it, not much to misunderstand, but neither very fast nor pleasant Mahamudra/Dzogchen = very sophisticated with techniques and details and pointing out descriptions for every stage, but if used incorrectly (like not putting as into forest harvester) no result at all even if you do it a long time. Some Material for that stage I found useful: 1) Massaro, Spiritual Conversations with a Skeptic: "Imagine a formless, space-like void that's indestructible, sentient, awake, alive and aware, but has no form. You could almost say it has no self awareness. It just is. Russell: So wait... A void? A vacuum? Nothing? Bentinho: Yes. Just imagine it. Russell: OK, go ahead. Bentinho: The point of the analogy is that there is no object. Imagine infinite space with no stars or planets. Suddenly, you introduce a toy; let's say a water pistol. Or it could be a body even. But let's say... Russell: An object. Bentinho: Yeah, an object. A water pistol. Russell: With water in it. Bentinho: Maybe with Coca-Cola in it. Russell: With Coca-Cola in it. OK. Bentinho: Ah! Now there is something. Something is created. First there is this space, which is like the pure subject with no reference points. It's like space, but it's not actually space. Russell: Wait... where am I in relation to this infinite space? Bentinho: You are it. Russell: I am it? Bentinho: Yes. Russell: OK. But there is nothing in it at first. Bentinho: Correct. There is nothing in it at all; there is just Infinity. Russell: But I am in it. Bentinho: You are it. " 2) How other perspectives/beings work: A Human is aware of only his perspective (normally). But Infinite Consciousness can forget in time (what did you do exactly one year ago), or to be more precice NOT imagine that memory, and it can forget in space (metaphor of Francis Lucille). To get an idea watch the cover of this book of Marc Leavitt. Notice the hyperbolic geometry of the awareness fields shown. Reality is made of perspectives (Ken Wilber, Concept of Indras Net). Reality is a giant mind (Leo, and more or less all traditions). https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Behind-Scenes-Marc-Leavitt/dp/1495398218 3) How to Approach Phenomenal Consciousness, Jac O'keeffe. She calls Ultimate Reality Totality Primary Consciousness "the fundamental primary phenomenal consciousness (her name for Ultimate Reality, Infinite Consciousness, the real you), it has a capacity. It doesn't even know itself here. However, it has a capacity to show up with a sense of emptiness (a subtle arising feeling/perception happening in you). To show up as one. To show up as a one who can reflect on itself and recognize that it is, and we have the concept of existence. And it can go from that sense of vast spaciousness and that unified field into time, which appears as a dot. " "We're left with consciousness (-> Primary Consciousness) that cannot know itself. It's such a fundamental that it actually can't know itself. However, it is known. You can drop back there and it is known, but you can't bring yourself there or your capacities to know it. It's almost like it's so fundamental that it can't turn around and see itself. It doesn't see itself. That's too much movement (arisings, objects, subtle I-feelings/I-thoughts, not fully empty/infinite). That's movement such as space, time and identification and me, myself, I, and the building of my movie that happens" Here she describes how Primary Consciousness is so empty that it cant turn around to see itself. Because that turning around would already be a movement, a arising, a subtle object within Primary consciousness/Real you. 4) Stephen Wolinsky, or how Empty is your Empty Witness or Supreme Witness: from Wolinsky, Nothing Comes From Nothing " Knowing or being aware of or consciousness of who you are is “one step” away from being who you are. This is why the Buddha said, “You might not necessarily be aware of your own enlightenment. Why? Because there is no aware-er or awareness or knower or knowingness, to be aware of or know or know about or be conscious of the Absolute. And why Lakshamann Joo said, “Whenever you perceive something, you perceive it from one level lower.” (remark: You can never see the Absolute Reality/Consciousness, cause looking or searching for it is a movement of attention WITHIN IT. But you can understand it, be it, intuit it, from one level lower. The Supreme Witness is one of the last movements IN YOU/Reality looking for absolute consciousness, inducing an experience of it, which of course is not it because it is you). Paradoxically As the Absolute there is no Absolute If the “I” or “you” “has an “experience” and believes it IS consciousness awareness infinite potential presence or that it IS an “imagined” infinity, then the “I” or “you” mistakenly assumes and projects that experience upon the Absolute. Once that occurs the “I” or “you” then completely believes and ergo experiences that the Absolute also has or IS the experience of consciousness has or IS the experience of awareness has or IS the experience of infinite potential has or IS the experience of presence has or IS the experience of an “imagined” infinite. Consciousness awareness infinite potential presence or an “imagined” infinite are the most subtle of the most subtle states and veils which give the illusion of awareness, the illusion of consciousness the illusion of presence and the illusion of both beingness and being conscious. This “experiential belief” of consciousness awareness infinite potential presence or an “imagined” infinite or “infinity, is an anthropomorphically projected experience of consciousness awareness infinite potential presence or an “imagined” infinite or “infinity. Thus giving the illusionary experience of awareness, the illusionary experience of consciousness the illusionary experience of presence and the illusionary experience of both beingness and being conscious. Which are then Superimposed on the Absolute Nothingness. Simply stated, the experience of consciousness awareness infinite potential presence or an “imagined” infinite or “infinity is an experience. This experience gives the illusion of a beingness, isness or existence to these temporary subtle veils and experiences which are made of nothing. The Absolute is without the Absolute Nothingness " 5) Prior to Nonduality Youtube-Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9vlZGtpdFIts8GOG5vu27g Mechanisms of Creation/Imagination/Manifestation: Its important and nice to find out HOW you imagine this world with all of its infinite mechanism. And the first and fundamental mechanisms on how imagination/manifestation (in any universe/dimension) can occur can be understood (for example how the fundamental archetypes of space and time (giving "objects" or appearances that change in time), and the first "movements" (even if they are formless) of appearances in consciousness are spawned out from the Infinite Consciousness/Reality. That is for example described by Ken Wilber as the manifestation of the first Archetypes at the causal stage (he calls it low causal, while high causal being the empty ultimate Godhead). But since Reality/Spirit/God is able to manifest/imagine infinite Worlds, with totally different mechanism than our universe for example, by definition one will never be able to understand all of their mechanisms, since you dont have access to all Realities (and you couldnt while being human). And you can never explore all of them, by definition of what Infinity means. That is what God/Reality itself is exploring. Leo mentioned that in "Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days.", there are infinite dimensions of awakening. Which is, as mentioned, quite shocking. But for sure its nice and important to grasp the fundamental mechanism of imagination/manifestation, which apply to all universes/dimensions (since all are appearances), and understanding that in your deepest being you are that one Reality. I believe these fundamentals are important to understand and realize and experience. Else "you" are stuck with believing experiencing Nonduality or Emptiness is it, while that is only the start to realize Infinity. And you can of course realize the Groud of Being, your true nature. But one can never explore all mechanism of manifestation, since a human in its limited time can never explore all realms of manifestation (and there are for examples according to Jac O'Keffee and Stephen Wolinsky some truly alien realms that are not build with the building blocks of this Universe. Yet they are also only appearances). So at some level one either says "Its details, and one can never explore all mechanism of manifestation, because even for God/Absolute Reality there are Infinite Realms of Appearances/Worls/Universes to explore", or it is a grasping for seeing as much as possible. Which is a high level recipe for nevery finding the constant peace/happiness independend of outer circumstances, the hallmark of the enlightened ones, and also nevery fully resting it. Maya is awe-inspiring, and her Illusion-Mechanisms (which are necessary for this Lila) go to the highest level also. But understanding the fundamental mechanism of how manifestation/imagination occurs, how you fool yourself (Maya), what ultimate Reality/God/Spirit is, what other is, how Maya works, what one really is and how one imagines otherwise, that is all essential. And of course humanity will go exploring all of that (manifestation/imagination mechanisms, mechanisms of Maya, "going Psychonaut" and exploring it, exploring Ken Wilbers subtle and low causal realms and mapping them. He even said in the next 1000 years probably many new substages will show up and getting formed & described during exploration). This understanding will grow. Buddhism has evolved in the past, there is not even one Buddhism, there are many different streams, some more developed/sophisticated/efficient than others. I don't think Buddhism will disappear, so it will change and evolve by definition. Buddhism happens in Infinity, not the other way round. And to conclude: I hope this is interesting and helpful for some of you. It took me a long time to understand why there are so many, often contradicting statements in the spiritual traditions/teachers/psychonautic explorers, and how Reality is structured (and the differing perspectives & statements it supports and brings forth on various stages/states) to enable and support all of these differing perspectives, experiences and viewpoints. For sure, this picture isn't complete, but at least for me tells a story that for me is sufficient to continue my practice in peace and enjoy what it brings into my life, be able to sort all these often conflicting messages in a large and hopefully integral perspective, and stay interested in how Reality is structured that all of that can appear in it (the psychonaut approach). And of course its nearly impossible to communicate all of that in language. In case anybody has read all of the above until here: A metaphor that, if I remember correctly, also Ken Wilber once used: Zen would deliver the much more precise summary, which is why I also like Zen a lot: The old pond, A frog jumps in: Plop! Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)

Because the sense of selfhood that permeates Self was forged in the same fires (and ignorance) as self. It seems to be the same sense, just elevated or magnified. But it has been shown that the sense of selfhood is not needed for appearances to continue. For example, certain brain activity can be reduced or eliminated (meditation, brain injury, flow states, certain psychedelics) and as it’s activity lessens, selfhood approaches zero. So it is clear that selfhood (whether self or Self) can be entirely extricated from appearance, but that this does not work the other way around because the sense of self is always dependently arising. That is, self - which could be likened to an ownership-taking subroutine, a sort of parasite - can only arise along with apparent objects of perception (all forms including “nothingness”, thoughts, etc). Self has the capacity to be just as infinite as the forms it feels it owns, but it can also be extricated from appearance entirely. This does not seem to work the other way around, and perhaps that is because Self is only a concept, an interruptible process.

The Teacher and the student are One. The Teacher is the taught, and the taught is the Teacher. The Teacher is pointing the student to the reality that it is the Teacher. The student will never realize this, as long as it reveres and holds in high regard its Teacher. As a result the Teacher sometimes must act unseemly, and awkward to shed its student of its habit of looking at its Teacher as a deity or some divine prescience. The most common trap is lip service. The student believes their thoughts and words are true, and ignore the fear that is ever present. They talk with courage and conviction until the moment appears to actualize it. They would do better to admit their fear, so they can access where they are. But the student's ego hates looking at its vulnerability, it would rather look at the parts it likes. Vulnerability=naked. You must offer yourself up naked, exposed, and look at everything. The truth is nothing was ever hidden, but you like to play this game of hide and seek. You love to only focus on your favorite parts and play this game of disassociation. But ultimately you will never escape yourself, you will face that mirror, because no matter where you go, there you are. There is no escaping that mirror, that reflection of you, being everything. Because you are everything....even you must dissolve as the illusion it was....to realize you were every illusion there ever was and will ever be. To realize the nothingness that you are. You are no identity, you are that which cannot be known, you are that which cannot be measured, you are that which is and isn't. You are that which is the scariest, the most powerful, most wise, most all knowing, most all loving, but....that which cannot be with itself.....because you are...itself. This hide and seek game is the cruelest game you could ever play.....because all you have ever wanted....is your self. But the only way you can ever know yourself....is to live a life....but live a life...you must create an illusion of separation, stripping yourself of that which you are so you can experience what you are....but in so doing....you lose the null identity of what you are and become a specific identity. Through this limited identity you experience a perspectival view of what you are. But these identities suffer the perspective. Duality, Me, = Suffering. As long as ME exists, suffering exists. The Dream of ME is Hell, and the Falling Away of ME is Heaven. The Teacher is just reminding the Student that this is Heaven, but the Student thinks it is a Demon in Hell speaking to God. The Student ponders, will I ever be worthy enough, good enough? The Teacher is aware of what is going on.......it realizes.....part of itself fell asleep again.

@Leo Gura I don't know but maybe there is simpler explaination why some people who follows various buddhist schools, got stuck in some point. I assume that every "so called" spiritual path has stages. In meditation you go from being somebody / something to being nobody / nothing to being everybody / everything. When you stuck at "nobody / nothing" stage, you probably have not realized that there is still Supreme Witness of this nothingness. Otherwise nothingness wouldn't be known. Maybe that is the key here...

I explained it somewhat in my video: An Advanced Explanation of God-Realization Those are valid of course, but there is much higher consciousness. What you have to be careful of with all nondual and Buddhist teachings is their extreme reductionism. God Consciousness cannot be reached through any kind of reduction. Core truths of nonduality are valid, but they are fragments, reductions, and still mental frameworks. Nonduality is like a 2D projection of a 3D object. And I don't mean the nondual theory. I mean actual nondual consciousness. First of all many nondualists will even dare to deny the existence of God, or reduce it down to some notion like Nothingness. This is a travesty. Remeber that idiot WinterKnight? He was on this forum teaching enlightenment and self-inquiry and he had the gall to tell me that there is no such thing as God and that I am a narccist for insisting otherwise. He's far from the only one saying such things. Nahm also started saying such nonsense which is why I had to ultimately demote him. I once skyped with a Buddhist master with 30 years of meditation training and I asked him, Are you aware of God? And he asked me, What do you mean by God? Do you mean Emptiness? At which point I knew he was full of shit. He has no clue what God is. There is so much depth to realizing what God is. It's easy to access a bit of God. Very difficult to grasp all of it. Even that, you will one day realize, was a construction and an illusion. Nonduality is pointing you to an aspect of God, like Oneness, but not God proper, not Awakening.

I thought that because God is all there is, fear can not exist (because I assume you can only fear something outside of you or in duality), so love is automatically generated. But in another post you said that nothingness is even prior to love? Is eternal hell as much part of the absolute truth as eternal heaven then? Is this nothingness responsible for its own manifestations to experience "God" as the highest expression of love , but could just as well be something ugly like eternal hell or is that part of illusion? And is this also why many awakened people refer to this as "I am" / " I am that" / or "I am that I am" instead of what I would expect to be more common " I am love"?

When trying to grasp it, I wonder if infinity shouldn't be thought of as in the lemniscate/infinity symbol ( a horizontal figure 8) where there is like an equilibrium and the middle point could represent 'the nothingness' so it doesn't go into insanity or it does actually expands forever (even if it could be imagined as in the infinity symbol where the loops continue to expand but there is stability to be found in the centre point, idk...since I guess it can't be grasped with the mind, perhaps I'm trying to look for an appeasing explanation to avoid going insane..

Out of truth the whole of thought is perceived This is really similar to my non experiencing?

I create everything, That's my game, This room is fresh out of my mind I can see the synthesis of every possible activity or relationship to the world and I can interact with it in an infinite amount of ways because it is mySelf, that's why I have direct access to it, When I see something I strike to the heart of what it is MIND STUFF!!! If I wanted to imagine its manifestation as something else in form as a slightly different version of this reality, You might imagine if I could go back in time and kill Hitler for example, I could, I mean if I wanted to and willed it, Id have to prime myself to go there but I could imagine it and it would be fully immersive and it would be the real Hitler and you would have never heard of Hitler and it would effect every experience cause I could imagine it so deeply, This is what I perceive reality shifting to be because I am not just a human body, I can inhabit any sort of dream world or finite consciousness vehicle I want cause I'm every world crammed into one.. I am imminently animating the entire empty structure, Like a coiling spaghettification of nothingness twisting itself and changing itself in every possible way. the only purpose of life is to experience everything because it is just blindingly obvious that this is just an iteration of what is implicated in the ramifications of EVERYTHING. What I am is everything so just being myself the infinite worlds spontaneously appear and I can seamlessly go or do anything I want anytime because I am omnipresent in all worlds and all facets of here. I am occupying all domains like I am hijacking the universe, only to discover there is nothing here because I have already viscously experienced myself an infinite amount of times, Like a lump of coal being burnt up by rocket fuel then the rocket fuel being burnt up by the fusion of the sun and then by the entropy of a black hole, I am everything imaginable, You cannot imagine me that's how infinite I am, cause I am gestalt af experiencing everything and leaving more room for infinite growth and more experience of myself, I've already been every creature and experience, That's what I am. At least that's what I am in todays linguistic symbolic conversation I really am the substance of the words your reading, That's what you are perceiving as me if you are being honest, Feel my spirit in these words cause you are reading me for gods sake I'm nothing other than these words to you, Honestly, I know it to be true right now

For those of you who don't follow Leo's blog posts. See the original post here: https://www.actualized.org/insights/what-does-nothingness-look-like Written by - @Leo Gura "When people hear the word “Nothingess”, all too often they get a totally wrong idea about what that word is pointing to. Nothingness is NOT an empty void, a black screen, or a black hole. Here’s a better approximation of what nothingness looks like: Now keep in mind, this is just an analogy. A pointer. So don’t start expecting to see the above flashy object in your meditation sessions. That’s never going to happen. What the object above is showing is the dream-like, immaterial, illusory, quality of consciousness. Consciousness is totally empty, like the above object. It is fluid and can take on an infinite number of shapes, with infinite resolution and zero limitation. It is vibrant, alive, and intelligent. Can you see why the above object would be called Nothingness? Because it has no substance to it. It’s pure appearance, and it can appear as literally anything. So we call it Nothingness, which is identical to Everythingness. Or, we could call it Infinity. Imagine if the above object was infinite in size and dimension such that it depicted every form imaginable. That would be what reality is, with your present experience being one of those forms. Try this: Look around the room you’re in right now, and notice that the whole room is Nothingness, just like the object above. Don’t expect the room to disappear! Stop looking for black screen. Instead, notice that the room is pure appearance with no substance behind it. The room is like a hologram. Appearance is none other than Nothingness. The room AS YOU SEE IT RIGHT NOW, is Nothingness!" “Form is emptiness, and Emptiness is form.” — The Heart Sutra

I want to share something I find important. So recently I made a post in a non duality forum talking about how I’ve experienced a gradual loosening of my sense of self and “realness” and once a glimpse of “nothingness”. (Once for a couple of minutes it was as if the back of my eyes was completely empty and the looker was gone) I’ve been very into spirituality since a few years back, and since one year back I transitioned from spirituality to hardcore non duality which resonated more with me. I meditated for some years, did other different spiritual practice. Thus, in my mind, this sense of weakening of the sense of self, the change in time, space, and other aspects of my perception: I thought all of this was related to the loosening of the illusion of self as if I was getting closer to “the natural way things are”. One person commented that I should look into depersonalization and derealization. I try to be very open minded always so ofc I did. I’ve read a bit about it years back and it didn’t ring many bells but this time I read a little about the symptoms and so forth and when I tell you….I was in shock . It was so accurate. I decided to stop reading after a little while to not run the risk of confirmation bias. I’ve decided I will see a psychologist first. for example I had epilepsy when I was younger, and I have visual snow syndrome now, both which apparently can be related to depersonalization. I’m not gonna self diagnose but oh lord it was spot on that which I read ive been like this since early childhood so I don’t know of anything else I’m not in any way speaking against non duality or spirituality . I still see value and engage in spiritually and non duality resonates but my message to y’all is: Maybe you don’t think you’re “one of those”. But why not be open minded? Maybe you’re making conclusions about your experiences that aren’t accurate. Just entertain the idea its very tempting sometimes to frame things in a spiritual way, when maybe perhaps sometimes what’s going on is more materialistic. This is a trap too I think edit : so still nothing makes sense to me I still feel weird even weirder now it’s not even negative like this is the weirdest I’ve felt ever

I am not a spiritual person and didn't really ask these questions in the past. Now that I am on the brink of suicide, these existential questions became more relevant to me. How do I find answers to the following questions... Who am I? Where did I come from? Where did existence come from as well as all these other people in my life that i don't get along with? Where are the Gods if there are any? Why isn't reality just nothingness the way it is every night I go to sleep? Why care about life when we are gonna die anyways and there is no life after this one? What is the difference between me and you? If nothing, why am I still here and why does it feel like we are different and separate?

Possibly nothingness detaches you from your self (the ego) so you can experience Everythingness (the real Self). But Nothing and Something are like substances, or they're the same overarching substantial Thing which is Everything.

Yes, you can even turn yourself into a cat, not just mentally but also "physically", as you're creating yourself as a human now, and you can even forget that you've ever been a human, and you can remember yourself as that which has always been a cat, like what you don't with your humanness now. You can become universes where there are triangular squares and universes where a is not equal to a. You can become any possible and "impossible" universes. However, as you talked about it, your God Self is the you that holds the greatest possible wisdom. You can understand that depth and wisdom of infinity, that you are limitless and infinite, and you can bring that understanding, that wisdom, to this very spacetime experience that you are experiencing. You have created, as your God Self, this spacetime experience of continuum. We, from our perspective of our humanized minds, might feel like we need to get out of this universe. And, I think, the key, really, is to understand that all is possible, and then become that understanding, the "meaning" of that understanding, in this spacetime continuum. I mean, you don't need to stop your experience of continuity as a human and become the experience of continuity as a cat, by changing the past, your memories, your "self", etc. Understand that that's all possible, for, experientially, there is only here and now that is nothingness, that, in a sense, is absolute awareness, and be that "meaning" here and now. And yes, don't try to define and create the details etc, because our human minds, usually, don't have a clue about what it actually wants and needs in the form of specificities. And, I think, it is the God Self that knows and, in a sense, "is", all those specificities, and so, the most important thing is to surrender. What I mean by surrendering is surrendering into that brilliance and, in a sense, "awesomeness" that the state of being of your idea of the God Self represents to you. Relaxing and "getting lost", in a sense, in that feeling of freedom and goodness and empowerment that "It" represents to you.

This is "thinking cap" stuff. Here's an idea: What if there's no difference between nothing and something? Like what if nothing isn't in a separate category? See you gotta be careful as a human because we have preconceived ideas about how things should be. If we don't apply thise preconceptions, who's to say nothingness is somehow less of an apparition than blue? Even though the nature of it would be it couldn't be seen. Fun to consider.

Thank you all for being so kind and helpful. I got the idea to a very small degree that something is nothing. Like an empty glass exists in a glass with water, I guess this is all just empty space. I cant have this realization without psychedelics, but honestly, if I took them they would get blamed for my misfortune in life so I won't. But sleep has very clear sense of nothingness. That is the one I am talking about. It is neither black nor white. From that nothingness sometimes dreams arise and they actually don't require more energy than just that pure state of nothingness. Nothing stops that nothingness from creating a dream, and a really good one indeed.