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Consciousness is a Process. The Process of Processes. The Movement of Movements. Sat Chit Ananda—Being, Consciousness, Eternal Bliss. That order is not random in any way, shape or form. You could also call it: Sat — TRUTH Chit — CONSCIOUSNESS Ananda — LOVE Immovable Truth meets Unstoppable Force, which turns out to be CONSCIOUSNESS, like rivers meeting a mountain. It turns TRUTH INTO LOVE! It is Divine Alchemy. THAT is what that Process is.

They do know a thing or two about direct consciousness, and that's where they're coming from. This isn't to say psychedelics can't be beneficial, but that's the point: beneficial at what? Point to anything they do, and it's going to be relative. Nothing can produce direct consciousness because it's not a process. Changing brain activity is still just changing brain activity. There's no causal relationship between what happens in your experience and this direct business. Enlightenment isn't an event that happens or is experienced. I've had breakthrough 5‑MeO experiences that I'd categorize as "bliss." Even though they're moving - and as impossible as it is for the mind to accurately assess what may have occurred - in the end it's only a state, another experience. People can easily gum up their preconceptions with what happens in the trip, and this seems incredibly common, almost inevitable to a point. It would also be incredibly easy and tempting for me to delude myself into thinking I had an awakening or actually grasped something for real. You get swayed by the experience. I'd talk about bliss, Love Awakening, God, my spiritual journey, Oneness, freedom - this and that - and most of you guys would eat it up indiscriminately, not knowing the difference between phenomena and direct apprehension. But I don't do that, because it isn't true. I once had a "no-self" insight (I don't even like saying that) while walking the dog. Who's up for that religion? Dog-walking your way towards enlightenment. It's a bit like believing you can get dressed by using clothing design software. No matter the design or sophistication of the software, these are entirely separate domains. It's the dream‑stimulant analogy again: wherever you look and whatever you do isn't it, and there's no way to get from here to there. This impossibility has to be deeply experienced. At the same time, it is possible to grasp it now - for everyone.

Ignorance is bliss.

You don’t exist I don’t exist it’s just pure awareness as infinite oneness bliss love divinity.

I'm from Croatia, 99% Catholic population and went to private Christian high school, my family kicked me out and cut my college funding when I was 19 for being gay, but that website literally saved my life and my grit and resilience and post traumatic growth. Personally that web site is my "Bible" I refresh it every couple of days for new content. They are 100% legit but you do have to have scientific mind (there my engineering diploma comes handy) to decern what is true for yourself, and what you want to believe in, and lots of NDEers get stuck in green stage "pure Bliss and happiness on other side" , when there is evidence on the website that there are very dark dimensions on the other side. BUT I never tried any psychadelics in my life, and this forum is foundation for that so take everything I say with grain of salt, I'm stage coral, I'm very happy where I am right now in my life, and looking forward for my first psychadelic experience......plus i have great mentors....

These experiences are quite old, there were explanations too. But I feel the experience is primary thing here, instead of how the person coming out of it tries to explain it through religious or other language. However, at it's core the person comes out of it as "content" with life. They call this "contentment" peace or some use more profound expressions like bliss or happiness. But ultimately it doesn't matter what they remember or how they describe it. I mean description is after the fact and will always be an approximation, and would be limited to the persons ability with language and life. what matters is the experience itself and how such an experience impacts the person. So when they invoke religious language and similar stuff, it's just their attempt to describe what they experienced. I feel what happens basically is that the person gets a rather intimate experience of "death", A lot of agony that people go through in life is because of how they relate psychologically with death and suffering, one gets conditioned to this suffering, somehow and lives life in a kind of "hiding" from death, it's a hiding of the psyche or self. While people with these profound experience go through realize that there is nothing to fear or hide from, Once you are open emotionally to whatever feeling or sensation you are feeling life could be very different.

@Someone here Unconditional love white light bliss is better than being a shitty limited rot of a human fuck humanity I hate being on Earth when I could instead be god mode and create whole new worlds, universes and realities to explore

Wow it’s so cool that you share this Ive had exactly the same thoughts. I’ve had partial dissolutions of the ego , “awakenings” (maybe partial) and some of them I’ve felt some bliss and love. But when I took 5 Meo dmt (in PARTICULAR when I took it, I took small dose and it was the closest I’ve been to full ego dissolution) and my normal state nowadays , is more empty and “dead”. I have thought to myself when I’ve been in the most extreme states “this is almost like death “ that’s the best way to describe it: it’s like everything looses its fullness, it’s reality, things become flat and empty. I have wondered, where is the fullness, the love, the joy? It seems to be associated with the self: when you feel you are real, and others and the world feel real, that’s where the joy is. When the self almost or completely ends, that’s where death is. That’s the end of “your life”. You approach death, a nothingness: that has nothing in it for you . But nonetheless, I try to stay open, maybe I just experienced the partial thing, maybe there’s facets to it. There’s hope still. Don’t lose hope. Don’t judge all awakening based on your own.

We don't claim the mountains to be ours, we don't claim the ocean, the clouds, the rain the volcano to be ours. We don't claim the neighbor's dog to be ours, we don't claim that other person's body to be ours, we don't claim......and I can list to infinity, but why not, we claim passing happiness to be ours, passing suffering and impersonal joy and pain to be ours. We practice neti neti and self inquiry that says we are not the body/mind/thoughts but all of a sudden we want to own happiness, suffering, sadness, joy, bliss, even competence, confidence and every other impersonal adjective and emotion that's just minding it's business and being itself. It's my happiness, my suffering, my anger, my depression, my joy, my love, my hate, my this and my that but that's your dog.

Awakening isn’t about bliss, it’s about no longer being enslaved by thoughts/emotions. Fear is normal. It comes and goes. Sometimes there’s peace, sometimes there’s emptiness, sometimes it’s just life being life. And in the end, it feels ordinary.

Think of it like this, do you still hang unto that drunk state you were in whenever it was. That high from smoking weed. Plenty of people have had experiences from altered states using drugs or alcohol. One can feel soooooo good on even some pills, they feel ecstasy and joy and bliss, then back down to reality it is. Why do you think these drugs are so popular. They make one feel good. They alter your state. Some can feel love, even feel God as they say....Oh God, whatever...all states, all experiences then it's back to 'normal'. Doesn't mean you're high forever, doesn't mean you have changed and turned into an enlightened being doesn't mean Jack shit other than you've felt like you've had an experience of......whatever that is. Keep going? There is no next, there is no when, if, there, why because, after, in between.....none of that really exists. There is just timelessness energy appearing as, that's it. It can appear as a person thinking they're enlightened - all empty and void of substance. We have seemingly turned the Absolute into a shit show of limitation and stale cum. We have limited infinity and turned it into a climatic opera rehearsal where we can look forward to an exciting finish and go tell it on the mountains to our other delusional buddies waiting to feel that enlightened bliss from some altered state then telling the stale story to our other fools that think infinity is there as a theatre movement for them to witness and become something from. There is no here and now, now and then, here and there, no next, no because of and no other interjection, abbreviation adjective or whatever in this here immediacy of Absolute wholeness and nothingness fill with emptiness and bizarre oneness of splendor freedom and liberated cockroaches. Nothing can turn this into a theatre of shit show enlightenment, only this itself can be that. Energy can play around all it wants and be all it wants but it can never be what's next, it can never be what's to come, it can never be "keep goin", IT CAN ONLY BE WHAT IS AND WHAT IS IS ALL THERE IS. So even it's keep going with your awakening bullshit and i will be enlightened fantasy is still what is and can be nothing but what is so that awakening means Jack shit to what is because it is also what is "acting like" it's awakening to itself. Such drama it loves to create. Then it leaves that energy high and dry then having it's buddies cheer him on and say keep going like this is even moving. It ain't, its not standing still either. So your future enlightenment is a shit show enlightenment prank by the absolute as the absolute acting like it needs to be enlightened because it ain't got nothing else to do but fuck around and play around for infinity.

There is no "solipsistic awakening". It's the ego reacting (in this case with fear) to non-dual awakening, projecting (in this case clutching onto) its preconceived notions like other minds and bodies, and because of resistance, what would be bliss turns into terror and despair. Non-dual awakenings are inherently blissful, but you can also have energetic discharges and processes (kundalini) which are supremely blissful. But there too, if there is resistance, bliss turns to agony and terror.

The solipsistic awakening or realization is just one of many awakenings you can have maybe you just haven't had awakenings yet filled with the bliss. You should have what I call kundalini of "Being" awakenings which will fill your body with a kind of ineffable Divine Bliss that will fill your "body" and you will be drowning in God's Love. You'll be rolling around the floor in ecstasy. So you just haven't had a full enlightenment yet. You should realize God/Infinity/Consciousness/Oneness in this way but it will be a complete ego death. So the backlash will still he tough afterwards because in a full enlightenment your consciousness will be elevated to God's level and you might even reach a state of mystical God Consciousness. That was an amazing state and impossible to examine but it was like there were no other beings there but you yet it was incredibly blissful and peaceful. So just keep going.

I’ve had many awakening experiences induced by self inquiry. My question is-when is the fun part? Every time it happens, I just feel myself disappearing and it is rather frightening, as everyone I love disappears too and it feels like there is no one else in any of my loved ones bodies. I just don't like the solipsistic part of it. Any tips on how to get over this so I can go deeper and fully experience my awakening without fear? I always cut it off before it goes to deep.

In the vast three thousand worlds, all forms appearing, I offer as the supreme mudra of body; Please grant the siddhi of unchanging form. In the vast three thousand worlds, all sound and sources of sound, I offer as the supreme mudra of speech; Please grant the siddhi of unimpeded speech. In the vast three thousand worlds, all the mind’s discursive thought, I offer as the supreme mudra of mind; Please grant the siddhi of undeluded mind. In the vast three thousand worlds, all happiness and suffering, I offer as the mudra of auspiciousness. If happy, I gather and dedicate all happiness; May all the sky be pervaded by great bliss. If suffering, I will bear the suffering of all beings; May the ocean of samsara’s suffering dry up. If happy, I gather and dedicate all happiness; May all the sky be pervaded by great bliss. If suffering, I will bear the suffering of all beings; May the ocean of samsara’s suffering dry up.

I dont know. Have only a hypothesis. After physical death. There another disintegration, kinda like a purgatory from sensuality and personality. When the individual is cleaned out, heaven is next. Rest and bliss. A subjective place created by consciousness in the likes of the personal life on earth. All the loved ones are there in a sense created by personal consciousness and Pure spirit. When i read about this, my thoughts were "how can nature decieve us, the loved ones are alive on earth, how can consciousness and spirit substitute them?". In essence everyone is pure spiritual consciousness, all else is illusory. Basically there is no difference from the imaginary loved ones in heaven and the mortal beings on earth. What they are is pure spirit and that is reality. After the rest. Skandhas drag the individual back to reincarnation. They are made from the former disintegrated personality and create a new personality. The key here is to transfom the skandhas while alive on earth, then the individual will automatically be dis-illusioned from the phases of afterlife.

You're comparing the truth about reality to how the ego wants it. When you actually wake up to God it will be Infinite Bliss. After that it's just about lucid dreaming. You can enjoy it so much more.. the downside is that you're like the developer now going back and playing the game you created. You can still enjoy it its just different now because you understand everything. But when you go back and play you lose yourself in the game again.

I feel so bad to see the delusion of equating awakening/enlightenment as supposing to bring happiness and bliss. People invent all sorts of ideas to try to feel better about this impersonal existence. Trying to cope, to have something to look forward to, hope, something other than this. This can seem like a horrible place yes, if there's someone seeming to witness it. Life isn't horrible to life, it just is and with all of the monstrosities and all. It can feel terrible, that sense of self, the sense of a separate human being that lives in a world that needs to be protected and fights to feel safe. It doesn't feel good. Feeling like one has their back up against the wall will make that individual resort to many things and humanity has faced this over and over again and has systematically constructed all sorts of things to overcome this feeling including enlightenment and awakening. When you see how the word happiness is usually used in the same sentences when speaking about liberation it's so obvious why these terms including many others were invented - to feel better about their existence. Everywhere you turn it's all about trying to feel happy, why is that?

One time during a college lecture, I sat trying to focus on what the teacher was saying, and I noticed a kind of tension related to this, that I was trying really hard to hold my attention on every word, every word on the slide, every moment of the lecture. And when I noticed this tension, I chose to let it go, to let the tension dissolve. Then for a while, nothing much was different, only I felt a little lighter, more fluid. But then suddenly, it hit me. There is literally no time. Things are happening, but it's perfectly still, not moving, just being. It's a singularity morphing onto itself, but nothing moving it in time. And there is literally no me. All of me is plastered on the walls of the room. And this felt like ultimate groundlessness, like reality had disappeared beneath my feet. All that was left was a surging energy that was at the same time completely silent. I felt like my heart had sunk beneath my chest. I grasped my hands to my desk and clenched my leg muscles, trying not to die of terror. And then when the lecture ended, I exited the lecture with my friend, levitating, spending no effort in moving, and the singularity feeling was back as I was talking and making sounds, walking down the stairs, entering the bathroom stall, closing the door and telling myself to get it together. This was the result of more than 1000 hours of seated meditation practice, and more than 16000 hours of complete obsession to awaken. And it was then I decided to stop seeking, because enlightenment, at that stage, was too much for me. Being dead but alive, being in terror but in bliss, was the biggest Catch-22 situation I could have ever imagined. And I wanted out. Turns out that wasn't so easy, but that's another story. Anyways, I've been talking about "deconstruction" before and I felt that it didn't land for many people, maybe that it was too "mental" in its connotation, that it's something intellectual you do. But it's simpler than that. It's just about letting go of whatever thing or process that might be holding you back from experiencing reality as it is. It can be as subtle as a tension associated with focusing on what somebody is saying, or it can be as gross as the sensation of sitting in a room right now and that there is a house surrounding it and that there is a world outside the house and that there is a universe outside the world. Every tension, every feeling of solidity, every ground, every roof, every level, every notion of reality, must be let go of. - Jan Esmann While you can distinguish letting go from the concept of "technique", it can also be thought of as a technique, if you practice it. And practicing letting go in meditation can be quite explosive. It's not necessarily as light and non-confrontational as "ah I'll just let go and sit here and just be still". It can be a quite visceral and energetic process. It can cause all kinds of movements and releases, both physically in the body and emotionally. And using other techniques are in a sense tools for helping you getting to the place of letting go, where letting go gets you to the place you want to go. Because training your focus through focused meditation, or elevating your energy through psychedelics, matters, but they will do nothing if you do not let go. You can take psychedelics and flail around, trying your best to hold on without dissolving into nothingness, and you may be successful in doing so, if not for some intense suffering, but it will not lead you to an expanded state unless you let go. And that's what suffering is about. It's when you can't for the life of you let go. And you keep holding on despite what reality wants you to do, to just accept it. Anyways, even people who are big proponents of psychedelics and who also are big proponents of the non-dual perspective, emphasize the importance of letting go: - Martin Ball And of course, other non-dual proponents say the same thing: - Ramana Maharshi - Rupert Spira And letting go and seeing reality for what it is is synonymous with truth. Just like how Leo says truth is the highest value, letting go is the ultimate meditation, because letting go reveals what is true.

It’s funny this summer was first time I was stung by wasp I’ve always been curious how it feels (not bad) so it was kinda fun experience. Shows how you can reframe things in your mind I am conscious of myself, of form, thoughts, a world etc. I am aware of a reality, but it doesn’t say much about the nature of it. Because I’m a little crazy like that, I believe we can’t even prove there’s a real reality at all. I could say that, there is something that has the ability to “appear as if” there is a real reality, but that something could as well be “nothing”. If I wanna go deeper into this (I’m not so focused on awakening in this current phase of my life honestly ) then it would be reasonable to investigate existence, in particular ourself We can sometimes think of happiness like a “wave” of pleasant feeling that comes, but then it passes. But as you say it might be possible to access a more long lasting, “static” happiness . And as you say that’s maybe impossible to fully access when you’re identified as the human self because you’re limited to human psychology I agree, while a human (as the ego) might not be able access that “enlightened bliss”, we can access every day life happiness that can be supported by good habits…

A pleasurable sensation is fleeting and physiologically based. If happiness were like that, it would be limited to a temporary sensation or "high," similar to what one might feel after eating a piece of chocolate cake. That is pleasure. "Bliss" is a new distinction to make here. Consider Ramana once again: from our perspective, his experience may have seemed lacking or poor, and yet he was said to be quite happy regardless. It may sound fantastical, but it gives us a sense of what that condition might have been like.

Partially enlightened. How many mosquitoes? The main question is: Are you conscious of your nature? The "bliss" might be a side effect of that consciousness - though it's probably still a mystery for us (for now). I suspect it wasn't really an emotion or a state for him, but something closer to freedom from everything: a transcendence of self and existence. That said, day-to-day happiness matters, too - things like being healthy, doing functional stuff, controlling one's mind, meditating, and being complete right now. Unasked advice, but there you go.

For instance, there are stories of Ramana being in bliss while insects bit his body. He also lived in a cave, barely eating or moving. This may suggest a different view of this condition. Perhaps it is more aligned with Being, already complete and not separate from you. Who knows?

It’s alignment with yourself, knowing yourself, loving yourself, and feeling yourself being loved. If possible, take the life purpose course. Other than that, ask yourself questions: What makes me happy? What makes me laugh? What kind of people make me feel grateful, positive, and like life is worth living for? What kind of work makes me feel fulfilled and energized? What do I want to contribute to the world? What activities make me lose track of time? What do I deeply care about? When do I feel most at peace with myself? What does success look like to me, beyond material achievements? What am I passionate about, even if it doesn’t lead to any tangible rewards? What excites me about the future? I know these questions can seem vague and difficult to answer, but the happiest version of you eventually figures them out and aligns with them. Just don’t fall into the trap of thinking there’s only one thing or that it never changes. People’s values and alignments can shift throughout life. Awareness is crucial; you’ll be asking yourself these questions over and over again as you grow. Also, don’t fall for the trap of believing meditation or psychedelics will give you infinite, permanent happiness. They won’t. Human happiness is most definitely conditional. You can reach states of pure bliss, but your baseline will remain human most of the time, unless you deliberately pursue a yogic path, and even then, it’s not guaranteed. That’s why making these questions as clear as possible is key. And if you don’t know the answers right now, that’s fine, your next goal is to find out what they are. Experience, test, try, and explore. In many emotional frequency charts (such as David Hawkins' "Map of Consciousness"), shame is considered the lowest, followed by guilt, apathy, and fear. Shame is directly a pure lack of self-love or a desire to deny and suppress yourself. That’s what depression often is, the suppression of the self due to a lack of love and shame. Given that depression is one of the lowest emotions you can feel, the direct opposite would be self-expression, self-love, a lack of self-shame, and acceptance, which would be the highest emotion, i.e., happiness. What is yourself? Who are you? Do you love it or do you hate it? Would you want to express more of it or suppress it? This is the key question to answer.

Only once on 4, 5 or 7.5g of mushrooms (don't remember, wish I'd kept track) did I go through all of that to God realization. It was 1.5 year ago. I think I did scream or grunt on my way to the complete OBE (sorry neighbours ), infinite hallucination emanating from a single all encompassing point. It's all too faint now but I do remember on the come up being floored on my rug thinking "oh no, ohno, oh no", blind-sighted by imminent death, reality getting asymptotically more real than ever before. My life leading up to this point flashing before my eyes. Then the infinitely unfolding fractal of nothingness that felt timeless and spaceless, a state that fostered incredible insights I'm sure, but didn't allow for any symbolic understanding. Simply too foreign for me to recall even the very next day. Descending from that non-human black hole portion of the trip, I remember moaning in agony as I reconstituted myself, slowly emerging back into my body, feeling metabolically drained perhaps from having been turned into a soup . But as time progressed more and more, the "death" feeling sublimated into an existential orgasm imbued with the understanding that life is just god's playground, with a felt sense of self design, of immanence. This was nirvana, bliss, all of it! When the moment passed I sat up cross-legged in front of the full body mirror, marvelled at myself and started contemplating memories of my family, of childhood and so on. This is where it turned into God realization, where for the first time in my life, after years of listening to Leo harp on about infinite imagination with deaf ears, I really considered the possibility that despite the convincing lore, all of it is imaginary, and in this elevated state, grasped it. This current moment is eternal, anything outside of it isn't real. It's ACTUALLY TOTAL, and unitary, making thoughts of family members or past events just this: thoughts, faint images in the mind. Now I didn't verbalise it like this at the time, I just started saying "oh my god, oh my GOD, OH MY GOD". I lost my historical reality, I was left with pure now, and nothing else. It felt like the correct order of things was reestablished, with that weird sense of familiarity too. All of reality was radically recontextualized (shoutout) into something that is causing itself right now, from within. A miracle, from which emanates a human life with memories and notions of progression, good and bad and so on. It was so awesome to finally understand life! It took some 8 to 10 trips before breaking through like this. Ofc I'm not conscious of any of this on the daily. As a human I'm dysfunctional af.