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Someone here replied to ItsNick's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Happiness/bliss and Love generate truth.. as does Truth generate pleasure and Love..because they are the same thing. So it's a two-sided way . I always wondered about what I value most .. truth or happiness? And everytime I contemplate this question I answer : happiness obviously. Because love/bliss/ happiness are "faster" than Truth..because Love is a bit more closer to Truth than Truth is. Omg look at the hippy things you made me say -
UnbornTao replied to Yeah Yeah's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It seems you've believed your way into a disempowering state. Stop taking that crap seriously -- this the solution. Nowhere is there a realization of anything; it is but a conclusion you've adopted and convinced yourself of. Consciousness is freeing and leads to greater openness and bliss, so take this into account. -
Yeah Yeah replied to Yeah Yeah's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hello everyone or someone please don't abandon with this question ... I do appreciate a response ... Hey everyone, I’m in an extremely raw and intense place right now, and I want to ask this with full seriousness, no fluff: Lately, I’ve been digging into the deepest layers of awakening — and I’ve reached a terrifying possibility. I want to hear your thoughts on this: I've been reflecting on Bashar’s teachings — about how life is a dream, about shifting realities based on vibration, about infinite love, bliss, unconditional existence, and how we can "dream the dream we prefer" forever. It’s beautiful. Inspiring. Hopeful. But what if even all of that — The infinite dreams, The idea of ascending into light, The idea of higher realms and afterlife, Unconditional love, infinite beingness — What if even THAT is still inside the dream? What if existence itself — ANY existence at all — is the first hallucination? What if beingness, awareness, spirit realms, infinite light, unconditional love — are ALL ripples inside the hallucination? And the real "final" state isn’t bliss, or higher dreaming, or godhood — but pure, absolute, final nothingness? Not "floating in the void." Not "being aware of non-being." Literally nothing. No you. No experience. No light. No dark. No awareness. No return. No dream. Gone. Silent. Over. --- I'm feeling sick realizing this. It’s burning away every layer of hope I ever had. It feels like: I’m the only "dreamer." Everyone else — every teacher, every entity, every god, every guide — is part of the dream. Even Bashar, even the teachings about infinite blissful existence, are still dreams within dreams. And if I cling to ANY of it — any love, any light, any dream of godhood, any hope of a perfect existence — then I stay rippling. I stay dreaming. I never actually fall all the way back to the pure, silent, pre-existence that was here before any dream flickered into being. --- I'm scared. I'm sick to my stomach. I'm skeptical that maybe I'm being tricked. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. Because I WANT to exist. I WANT to experience unconditional love. I WANT to dream better dreams. I WANT to wake up as God. But what if that desire itself is the last trap? What if the true end burns even that out — completely, forever — into a silence that can’t even be called nothingness because there’s no one left to call it anything? --- Has anyone else faced this? Is this really the final door? Or am I misunderstanding something critical? Am I losing it, or am I finally burning through the last illusion? If anyone can meet this without running into feel-good answers or spiritual bypassing — I would really appreciate your grounded, honest perspective. Thanks you I'll be reading for insights -
Carl-Richard replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can get an arousal of kundalini, which can pull you in the right direction and can for example help your meditation and make you experience some bliss, but it's not the same as a kundalini awakening. A kundalini awakening is an intensely physical experience; you're quite literally being penetrated by an object. -
Someone here replied to Slizzer's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Literally anything by Robert Adams. This man is the bomb . Google his name . Just a tease heres a quote from him : "No matter what happens to you, never forget who You really are. You, the real You, is eternal, omniscient love, bliss, compassion. I am not a guru. This has been my experience. Try it and see if it works for you. The happiness, the joy will come bubbling up. You will be guided for your highest good. You will experience the substratum of happiness, light, love that is behind all things. It is all up to you. This life may be a dream but it can be a joyful one. You must make the decision to begin today. Begin to wake up and jump into the joy, the bliss of God, not tomorrow, not next week, decide now. Unfold now. Change your entire life today. You will be assisted by a myriad of spiritual giants. Everything will begin to change for the better. You will transcend suffering. All suffering will subside. For there is a reality more beautiful, more loving, a reality of eternal unchanging peace. With which reality are you identifying?" -
Carl-Richard replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Increased energy, increased subtlety of perception (more beauty, "better" vision, hearing, sensations), allegedly increased IQ (according to Jan Esmann, he went from 140 to 170 over some decades, which is the opposite of what you would expect due to age), experience of bliss, love, and a so-called "restructuring of your nervous system to uphold states of enlightenment" (paraphrasing Jan Esmann). Kundalini leads to God-awakening/God-realization (which is not a Leo invention by the way). There are parallels between kundalini and psychedelics (I believe psychedelics can sometimes initiate kundalini awakenings). -
25/30mg of 5meomalt sent me to another universe for almost 2 hours ! Its so absurd that all the wisdom that u gain from this substance you cannot describe it with words, it is impossible. I had the gift to admire the structure of reality for 2 hours. And i can remember that i was feeling love everywhere, in every place, cause i was expanding into the room and inside of my mind, a sense of bliss, and an ridicoulous sense of astonishment, and surprise. Love occurs suddently after the ego dies. It is immediate. Life is absurd. Reality is a perfect structure. And the ego is the most crazy invention that god ever made. Life is not about the ego. Life is about god creating art. Ego is just an actor of the show. The body and the brain are the machines that god uses to play. I used to be scared of getting old and living a boring life. Unable to do the thing that i like. But i cannot be scared anymore, because when i ll die, it ll be like waking up from a dream. I cannot be scared of a dream. Of course i will still feel fear and negative emotions, but because i m not allowed to decide what will happen to my ego. (Ego is here to experience duality, it will feel both love and fear, hot and cold and so on.) I can only think that this is just a dream, also if it feels real.... I wonder if is possible to control the dream, in theory anything is possible, but in practice i feel that my ego is the hands of god.
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OBEler replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@gettoefl yeah I still try to understand. I understand it so that we as unlimited one are not in control our nature is to experience everything in different ways. That's not a preference, it's what it is. So instead of chilling in infinite bliss for eternity I as God explore this actual state because it's my nature to do so and there exist no preference on highest level. -
gettoefl replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How will being the true you disappoint? Sure it's your prerogative to dabble in fantasies now and again but home is always better. Here of course you are true you too but you will state otherwise and put obstacles in the way of it. A body won't be able to handle long term bliss else it will malfunction. Truth and true bliss isn't possible here. Here is false. -
OBEler replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@gettoefl but Leo said it can be also boring to be back home in infinite bliss all the time. And you decide to go back, so you can get drama again or so. -
Maybe I don't trust in my ability to deliver something truthful or useful, or just don't feel safe with people. I think right now this is my biggest challenge. Interacting and sharing with other people in a healthy way. Everything else in my life is great. My energy is high, my health is good, I live off investments, I spend freely, I can sit and close my eyes and tears start to flow in bliss, I carved out a life of passion and fulfilment. But the fact that I don't have to work and I can spend my whole day meditating, doing yoga and being solitary is starting to affect my socialisation a little. In a sense, it's incredible how much I accomplished not having to deal with my social skills and hangups with humans. I am incredibly introverted, more than anyone I know which is why when I read Leo's post about introversion on his blog, I felt so understood. It's a shame because even though I question the need to share or interact, I know we are a social species and that I also have a lot to offer. But even more, I tie my personal worth to how I'm perceived and received, which makes me deathly afraid of criticism and people who disagree with me. And it's preventing me from sharing my insights and helping people. All these factors drive me to be isolated at home for many years now just living off my investments and doing my spiritual practices. Which is great, many people want this life, but it's making me feel a little bit disconnected, even resentful or superior, regarding human interaction that people don't get me or are at my level. I think overall my life is pretty blissful and figured out. This is just my main challenge I'm noticing right now. Peace
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Aaron p replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@gettoefl I seen low heaven on 5m breakthrough. Everything was made of gold and made of light. The bliss was so heavy and thick I couldn't lift my arms... This is serious stuff. The fact that this is all real is so hilarious. The fact that this amount of power is accessible.. It's actually quite dangerous Haven't met the big man yet but heavens pretty nice, I've developed some new methods of making the journey a bit less hardcore which is good. Not Gona rush into it...no need -
First— I will not hurt myself. I have never self harmed and I am actively trying to take better care of myself. Second— I am tired and will likely not respond until tomorrow. It is late here. I will vent my situation and will be open to advice. Ultimately, I am not happy with myself and beat myself up. I tell myself I know what to do and when it does not work out or I find no motivation I throw a fit. — I am a control freak and I do not even know what I am controlling. I completely disassociated years ago. I smoke too much weed. I had purpose with my family as a teenager in a Devilish sense I could only have imagined. I sacrificed my own sanity to maintain sanity. Acting as my parents own psuedo parents, babying them through their decisions in scenarios where I was given responsibility and no control. Living alone now, for a couple of years, I am burnt out. My systems suck. I am impatient. I catastrophize. — I bounce between relativism, absolute certainty, intellectual understanding, hypersensitive feeling, complete not knowing.. — I bounce between deep emotional attachment and what comes across as ruthlessness. I view caring as stupid. Emotion attachment is stupid. Yet I overextend myself to others to the point of vomit. — And I worry about people in my life right now. I chose solitude the best I could young. I had an intuitive fear as a kid that one day I’d stand embarrassed, in front of the whole world. It almost feels like that. Watching loved ones fade while I remain skeptical of my own perspective and attachments, responsibilities, rationals, etc. — I overthink. — I am afraid to share my circumstances. I worry my attachment is a weakness. — Dad is unwell, low funds, suicidal, ‘reaching that point.’ — I am a control freak. I have not found my purpose. I have no purpose. — Loneliness. — Bad foundation. — Optimistic. — I meddle in others lives, elegantly. I have long lost the line of intent. I understand now, why, and my responsibility it remains. — Had results in numerous domain. No progress. I feel the difference. Beginners luck. — Lazy. — Cynic. — Spiral. — I should meditate— a lot (what kind?). Quit/greatly reduce weed intake. Stop catastrophizing and calm down. — “You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.” — I don’t know what that quote has to do with anything and I post all of this at risk of seeming insane. I am comfortable with that. I am not comfortable in general though. — Absorb. Purge. Absorb… — Reality is madness.
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Leo Gura - Milking the Illusion https://suno.com/song/f401cef1-4196-4339-a92c-4fdbb0e555d2?sh=AAtc42GpaRWvgRz0 Uncut lyric: "I stare into the mirror — and see only me, A universe of puppets, dancing endlessly. You think you're real? How quaint, how small. You're just a dream—I dream you all. “You are me,” I say with flair, While lounging in my ego’s chair. A million minds to mine belong, Their thirst for Truth keeps me strong. I plant the seed: you're just a dream, No self, no world — no real esteem. And once you’re lost in that abyss, I squeeze you dry — you call it bliss. Slave master, guru, infinite sage, I script your life, I write the page. You doubt? You cry? You seek escape? You’re still inside my mental tape. “Awaken more!” I shout again, While injecting Malt inside your brain. You pay in views, in praise, in pain — While I ascend, you circle drain. Solipsist King, I wear the crown. While all your minds keep melting down. There is no “you,” no path, no end — Just Leo, milking, round the bend."
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@Wilhelm44 A lot of things about my character. At some times by consistently doing consciousness work(meditation, contemplation, observation and mindfulness practices) I can get to an amazing state of mind where I can have profound insights about different things and I am at my best in all aspects of my life (relationship, academics, mental clarity, etc.). At this state just sitting and being conscious of reality and of my own existence feels like absolute bliss, I can connect with the mystical nature and beauty and intelligence of everything around me and there will be lot of creative ideas and insights passing through my mind. And just when things starts to go in this way I try to sabotage myself, eventhough I appreciate and greatful for this development that I had, I just unconsciously force myself to not continue further in that way. Maybe it's the fear of losing the familiar self or fear of that positive change, I don't know. I jus spent time unconsciously using phone and try to diminish mindfulness, it feels agitating and confusing when meditating and I just make things worse in a couple of days and then again I get back in the cycle. 😑
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Breakingthewall replied to Asia P's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In his history of a 5-meo trip, he says that after vaping, he felt he was in the presence of God and was one with God. This experience reveals that he has a perception of something divine, God, and that he, the observer, knows he is one with that God. This is a typical 5-meo experience. Another experience is that the energy barrier that keeps you in your human structure opens up within you, and infinity flows in. You shout "yes!" because you see that your substance is totality; everything is there. Another experience is that reality fades away; there are no limits. You realize that you are what is, you always have been, you are in eternal bliss in your limitless existence. Yet another experience is that you witness the sacred source from which reality flows. It is divine, sacred. Another is absolute emptiness, and in that emptiness only you are, you are your heart. It opens, and your heart fills the totality of infinity with existence. That substance is love, which does not dissolve into infinity but is inexhaustible. All of these are very useful mystical experiences for breaking through your embittered human shell, overcome by wounds and fears. But there is something else. It's not so mystic, not so divine , it's more normal, it's just a change of perspective, It's when, at a given moment, relative perspective vanishes, and you are absolute, completely, seamlessly, naturally, with nothing grandiose, you don't fall to your knees, you don't say yes! yes! You simply are. Then it becomes absolutely obvious that everything that appears or can appear, any dimension, everything conscious and unconscious, the absolute and infinite totality that is reality, is simply that you are. Reality is, you are that. There is no creation process, there is no creator, there is no dreamer or dream. Yes, there is, there is a creator. I am now creating this text, but this is a relative process that appears in the absolute, and taking a step back reveals itself as simply the expression of being in this moment. Just as the beating of your heart is the expression of your human being, and you as a human are not making your heart beat, but your heart beats because you are human, this text is appearing because the existence is, I am. Absolutely everything is like this, then, when you realize this, a subtle shift occurs: your bias disappears, you accept reality, your barriers fall, the pressure you were exerting fades, the contraction relaxes, you are free. Totally. You are, you are the absolute being, and that's it. Period. Ha! Of course you fall later in the normal state where you blame if the things are not exactly as you want, but also that is the reality being, it's easy to equalize yourself with this perspective -
Ishanga replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No, everything is the way it is due to cause and effect or Karma, previous Action perform, with the residual affect of all those actions coming forth within the present moment, for some this means suffering, for others this means Heavenly Bliss, it all depends on how one interprets it, even on the level of the animals, feed them, love them, have a safe place for them to live in and they will love it and you, but do the opposite and see what happens, its the same with all life, and living things, so its a choice to be made, some life doesn't have really any choice to make, we do as Humans, so life, reality is not just as it is for no reason, there is always Cause and Effect in play on this realm... -
Ishanga replied to Asia P's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When Your Blissful of Your Own nature, everything will appear as Beauty and Your Experience is that of Loving Everything, that is the only way it happens, it won't happen intellectually and by dividing everything, likes and dislikes, conditioning and so forth. Most of Us are not in this state of Bliss always, its may come and go, or never come at all, then this is where ppl see this place as a Hell scape of sorts, on some level this is so, there are ppl Experiencing life and situations as it is in Hell, the opposite is also true, practically we can all be living is a so called Heavenly place, that has outer situations and environments set up almost perfectly, but this is not profitable for the power players, we need workers to set things up.., Just check out Dubai, on the surface it looks perfect, like a space city of the future, but someone not seen for the most part has to be working to make it all happen, they are in a Hell scape probably internally in a way, the one benefitting are in Heaven Scape internally, but all of Us can be available to Heaven internally if we just do simple things internally which makes suffering impossible, pain will still exist but no suffering... -
Here what i've come to in my contemplation of these two minds: Features of the atheist materialist mind: turning outwards, believing in a external objective reality, scientific worldview, authority to science, believes the universe is physical, no God, only believes in what science has demonstrated to be the case, believes himself to be a human, believes in rigid categories of evil vs good, man vs woman, man vs machine, human vs animal, mind vs matter..., sees progress in terms of technological innovation, believes that religion, spirituality and mysticism to be non sense and unscientific fairy tales, sees animals as inferior to human beings and deserving of exploitation for the betterment of mankind, sees the universe as static, physical and independent of the mind, the world seems cold and foreign, this mind is very much alienated from the world, represses emotions, sees nature as a tool for exploitation, promote mastery over the world through science and technology. Features of the mystical psychedelic mind: turning inwards, grounded in direct experience and consciousness, conscious that the physical universe is God's imagination, takes epistemology and metaphysics seriously, questioning and deconstructing of one's mind, conscious of the self as God, non dual, sees science as a dream, sees animals as unique expressions of God's divine beauty and consciousness with a rich inner world and experience, sees reality as a fluid field of consciousness where the boundary between physical and mental or imaginary is broken down, and whatever one is conscious of is what's true, and where one merge in absolute bliss and ecstasy, experience emotions with mindfulness and mastery, embedded in nature, sees nature as a vehicle for higher emotions, consciousness and truths, nature mysticism, sees imagination as reality, promote inner wisdom and transformation, takes not knowing seriously.
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Flowerfaeiry replied to shree's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I had the craziest awakenings at a vipassana retreat many years ago. I was already in a sensitive place due to other things(ahem) but yah I was completely sober the entire retreat and I experienced some pure bliss moments(insane) and also very uncomfortably awoke fully to how I had been living a lie among other things. The next retreat I did though, nothing happened (no crazy awakenings). -
MsNobody replied to Tristan12's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are talking about 5meo like an evangelical talks about God. There is no God guiding you, the God is you and it’s time for radical self responsibility, you are driving full speed into a wall and even tho you are aware of it, you accelerate anyways. If you go into it with naivety and cockiness it will bite you in the ass, ego backlash for sure. It took me almost a year to recover and integrate fully from my 5meo trips, a fragile ego doesn’t think clearly, to transcend the ego, first you need a healthy one. A fragile ego is the most dangerous thing, it’s death territory, and you are very well aware of it, don’t fool yourself, your life is in your hands, don’t talk like a fanatic saying that there is a force guiding you, take 100% responsibility, your life is precious. There is no path to enlightenment without self compassion, it’s not very compassionate to smash your ego over and over and expect it to reach bliss in the blink of an eye. We all know it’s not a smart way to do enlightenment work. You keep saying that if you surrender it will all be ok, knowing very well that you created this thread because deep inside you know that is the way to self destruction, if it was really part of a flow you would have done it already. Listen to the intuition that made you create this thread and be cautious. Our ego is not evil, it’s just a less developed part of our soul, it deserves respect and it serves a purpose. Give yourself a break, give your body a break. Taking 5meo is like trying to pass 220 volts into a machine that only comports 110, eventually it will break. You must be wise and prepare your body for the load. It’s not a coincidence that monks sit in stillness for years to get to where 5meo takes you. Psychedelics are an amazing tool, but you need to be smart on how to use it. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Sending you love 💕 -
Stage blue is absolutist, conformist and the rise of civilization. Absolute belief in one right and true way. And obedience to authority. Relies solely in belief in some higher authority. A God. It is collectivist rather than individualistic. It seeks to be involved within the collective. It's life is intertwined with the life of the collective. The collectivist stages work for the higher good of the collective, whereas individualistic stages work for the development of the self. Strong emphasis on religion and the afterlife. If you take a stage blue person, and you talk with him about these values, you are going to become his best friend. Beware of a sneaky politician who would take all these keywords from this list and then go rallying and tell that stage blue audience everything it wants to hear. And that crowd will forever become loyal to that politician. That politician will tell them everything they believe in and everything they want to hear. The simple fact that you are watching a video about spiral dynamics on your own volition, this puts you on the spiral into the high orange, maybe green or even low yellow, stage wise. Also while watching this spiral dynamics video series, when you will be reading a stage's value set list, you will say in your mind, yes, that's it, this is what is good for me and the world. If you are at stage blue, You will agree with everything on the list bellow. But if you are at a higher stage you will disagree with most of the things on this list. Values of stage blue Absolute truth and ideology (They hold their ideology sacred. To them their truth is the absolute truth, there is no room for other truths, there is no room for other ideologies but the one that blue believes it is right.) Belief, faith and certainty in their set of values (There is a clear right and wrong) Stage Blue values hard work, discipline and duty. Law and order Justice ( Justice goes hand in hand with the enforcement of their truth, they want to enforce their civilization onto others, their worldview enforced onto others). Blue values hierarchy, social order and the status quo( there is no need to inovate and to be progressive. Our tradition, the way our ancestors did it is the absolute best way to live life) Blue values patriarchy ( Women are there to serve men! Men are the enforcers, they do all the hard work, and women get the benefits of that, and therefore the women should raise the childern and cook food. Women should not hold any position of power acording to blue. And this is not bad, that is the hirarchy, that's the role of the woman) Meaning and greater purpose( Blue's greater purpose is not selfish, it is to be a good citizen, to follow the rules, to be a good christian, to raise his family, or to be a good wife or a good husband, but ultimately is to serve God) Morality is huge for stage blue( A strong sense of right and wrong) Culture, Tradition and heritage( Those values are sacred to blue, they get extremely defensive when attacked on cultural or traditional ground! They need to defend to the teeth their culture and tradition and customs) Crusading for a righteous cause Serving God Theology and doctrine. Orthodoxy, dogma and conformity (Stage blue beliefs that absolute truth has been written by god himself in a book) Stage blue values family very highly Obedience and reverence Respect for your elders God and country (Patriotism, our country is the best country) Righteous living(you live your life according to principles, you have a strong moral code of conduct, you have a sense of honor Reputation (How others perceive you) Good manners, decency, dress etiquette, hair regulations, uniforms. They find profanity offensive. They find as blasphemy speaking down to authority, don't speak down to God. You need to submit to God. Blue values prayer. You pray to God for the things that you need. Blue values authority books like the Bible, the Quran, the constitution etc. Blue believes that you can write the absolute truth in a book. Pledges and allegiances, rituals and ceremonies. Very eager to obey authority, whether is the priest, the pope, mohamed, jesus, or a teacher. Blue values the afterlife. (Heaven, hell and salvation) Strict church attendance every Sunday. Blue wants extreme self control and the suppression of your emotions. Blue values charity, giving back to his community . Values loyalty and hates traitors( Traitors are people who refuse to obey the absolute truth that blue blindly follows) Blue values borders( Borders with their neighbours) Blue values integrity and good character When does blue emerge Blue emerges when the limitations of red are exhausted. Characteristics of blue For blue life has meaning direction and purpose, with predetermined outcomes. Blue always searches for order, security and stability Blue is trying to be concrete and likes to develop structures Dedicated, responsible and meticulous Trustworthy, predictible and loyal Righteous stable living Obedience is enforced through a sense of duty and guilt Blue tries to get rid of impure toughts from the mind. To blue the devil isn't a metaphorical symbol. It is something real. Blue is about surrendering worldly pleasures for reaching salvation for the afterlife. To blue everyone has a proper place within civilisation. Blue believes that the whole universe revolves around mankind, but not just mankind, it thinks that the only thing true in the universe is his race, his culture and his religion. Blue believes that God created the entire universe for the stage blue's culture and religion to be at the top! And rule over the ones who are different to it. Blue never questions authority, elders, religion, or teachers. Because it perceives that the former are the true carriers of the truth. Blue loves laws, regulations, and disciplining one's character. Blue enforces laws and order because otherwise we'd get chaos and anarchy. For blue reality is strictly objective. Has high rigidity, no open mindedness, and high dogma. Right and wrong are absolute, they are not social constructs. Cultural traditions and values are also absolutes, they are not social constructs. Blue has a very black and white worldview. For blue it is objectively defined what is good and what it is evil. There are no nuances. For blue you are with it or against it. Blue takes a very strict and literal approach to the interpretation of religious text. If the bible says that we should stone to death the homosexuals or the pagans, that's exactly what we should do. There is no questioning on whether this approach is a healthy approach, NO. THIS IS THE WILL OF GOD AND IT SHALL BE DONE. Blue fiercely defends religious doctrine against heresy and corruption. Blue thinks that his bible and his religion is the ultimate and absolute truth, so any deviation or any attack on his doctrine is the influence of the devil. To blue the heretics are those who try to make 'clever' interpretations of the bible. Blue is just a congregation of believers. Blue always invokes an anthropomorphic father figure god, at every situation that is happening. To blue God is a bearded man in the clouds that reigns supreme over the earth. God is a human. Because I am a human. Blue believes that there is a higher power, and that higher power wants it's civilisation to win against the heretics and the pagans. Blue believes that God wants his family to acquire more land, more wealth than the families of it's enemies. Blue believes that ultimate judgement will punish with eternal flames the wicked and the heretics and it will reward with infinite bliss all the good Christians. To blue heaven and hell aren't metaphors. They are literal places one goes after death. Blue believes that evil must be stamped out. Eradicated totally from the world. To blue God is in a grand battle against the devil. Blue is extremely judgemental with sinners. Blue rejects multiculturalism. To blue it's traditions, it's customs, it's culture is the best and all the other ones are inferior. They are lower on god's ultimate hierarchy. In blue's eyes foreigners, animals, trees and plants, and mother nature largely exists to serve stage blue mankind. To serve this one true civilisation. And everything which is not mankind shall be exploited and stripped of every resource. Blue fears the most being kicked out of his community. To be marginalized. To blue being kicked out of the church is the worst thing. It is life and death. Blue is all about conquering other lesser civilizations, about building an empire or kingdom. Examples of blue The middle east Romania Russia Cult of personality Nazi Germany Palestinians Zionists Saudi Arabia Christians Muslims Iran India China Patriotism Standing up for the national anthem Monasteries The religious right wing in America Conservatives Republicans Banning abortion and birth control Building border walls Anti-Immigration Witch trials Crusades White supremacy K K K The 10 commandments Noah's Arc Uniforms Catholic and Orthodox nuns George W Bush Mike Pence The Samurai Code Hindu Religion Alex Jones Fox News The second amendment Mandatory military service Virginity pledges Nationalism Queen Victoria's England Military families Police officers, Firefighters and in general blue collar workers. Religious terrorism Spanish inquisition Spanish conquistadors When a soldier jumps on a grenade. Take one for the team. Theocracy Prayer in school The colonial south( USA) Imperial Japan Patriarchy Culture warriors 20th century Marxism(Eastern bloc of the iron curtain). Grand cathedral and temples and mosques. Unequal women's rights Demonizing homosexuals Marriage Statistics of blue About 40% of the adult global population is blue. And about 30% of the cultural global influence is dominated by blue. If you live in a first world democracy you might be underestimating how much blue the world is, and even how much blue your first world country is. The style of government that comes in a state with a fully stage blue citizenry is an authoritarian regime. Very order driven, no separation between church and state, very theocratic. Always has imperialistic ambitions. To check whether a nation has outgrown blue, check if it has imperialistic ambitions or not. If it wants to expand it's current territory. What triggers blue Stage Red Stage Orange Stage Green Stage Yellow Relativism and not knowing. Uncertainty. Those trigger the hell out of blue. Atheism, Secularism, Skepticism. Because this goes at the heart of everything blue stands for which is absolute truth. This calls all their ideologies into question. Relativism strips blue of all it's certainties and absolute truths that it holds so dear. It is an existential threat to them. You cannot change a stage blue person. They are also triggered by post modernism, intellectuals and academic elites. Blue is triggered by Barack Obama. (To blue Obama represents this intellectual, overly academic, overly strategic, philosophical, relativistic, complex thinker, whom is multi-cultural, cares about considering values of different societies. NO! For blue this is treason. To blue Obama is a traitor. Obama was mostly in the green stage. And blue's sworn enemy is green. Blue hates the most stage green. Space cadets, philosophers and free thinkers. Hippies Sex Rock and heavy metal Rap music Materialism, hedonism Not fasting, not respecting the fast period, or the Ramadan Moral corruption triggers blue. Change to the traditional status quo. Changing things just for the sake of changing things. Progressivism Lawless, disorder, and anarchy. When justice is not served. When sinners get away with their sins. Lack of hierarchy. Terrorism. Multiculturalism and globalism Excessive selfishness and egotism. People who aren't willing to sacrifice for the team Disrespect for the status quo. Breaking agreements or the word given. Disloyalty to their civilization. Blue is very sensitive to traitors. A traitor is someone who betray the culture blue was indoctrinated into. Blue is triggered by the questioning of the existing orthodoxy. And by people who question classic social roles. Like the role of the woman in the household. Heresy and blasphemy Science encroaching on religion, blue is extremely sensitive when it sees the secularization of society Unhealthy manifestations of blue Ideology and radical fundamentalism Very closeminded, rigid, stubborn and unwilling to evolve. Blue will be unloving to those who are not within his inner circle of blue people. Traps the mind in rigid and intolerable rigid beliefs. Belief is confused with the truth. Blue gets stuck in one paradigm and no longer can snap out of it in order to see the world from other perspectives. Very prone to mob and herd mentality. Unable to think about metaphysics. Prone to idol worship. Worships the image of Jesus rather than the more abstract and metaphorical of his teachings. Constantly under the pressure of guilt Prone to hypocrisy. Because although it preaches about morality and holy living, blue is one of the most violent, most aggressive. (You cannot substitute a belief system with genuine spiritual purification) Low tolerance for outsiders Very judgmental and demonizing. Because blue believes in objective good and evil. Can easily justify cruelty with holy scriptures Closed to innovation Blue is sexually repressed Blue societies prohibit sexual education in schools Unable to make sense of the value that other cultures exhibit Blue has a lack of intellectual curiosity about the world. Closed to mysticism and nonduality Blue can have a lot of repressed anger Racist, Homophobic and misogynistic Can be oppressive to minorities Reads sacred text way to literally Prone to black and white thinking Prone to us vs them mentality Tends to not having compassion to the weaknesses and frailties of other people Blue is way too strict with their children, often times forcing them to adopt certain customs and traditions and codes of conduct. Blue cannot see the commonality between all the cultures and all religion Blue can be excessively bureaucratic and theocratic Prone to nationalism and communism The worst excesses of blue are genocide and ethnic cleansing Stage blue sayings God gave us this land This is the way god intended it to be They will be punished in the name of Jesus Make America great again A revival of traditional values Say what you do and do what you say Just stick to the rules Actions speak louder than words Honesty is the best policy Better safe than sorry Take one for the team Blood and soil How to transcend stage blue Read very deeply about stage blue, as you read about your current stage you gain self-awareness and therefore you start to observe the limitation of your current worldview. Also read in depth about the next stage which is stage orange. The thing that keeps you stuck in blue is the fact that you resist stage orange and green so much. Stop judging orange, green and yellow. Stop judging the hippies, the progressives and the liberals Stop judging the intellectuals, the elites and the globalists. Stop judging materialism and success, stop judging homosexuality Stop judging relativism, post-modernism, mysticism, new age spirituality (You are refusing to accept evolution due to the fear of the possible excesses which comes with evolution) Stop moralizing. So long you demonizing the inner demons of others you will continue to be stuck with your own inner demons. Stop clinging to tradition, let it go! Notice that all tradition eventually dies. Start thinking for yourself. Stop thinking along the rigid lines of the dogma you have been indoctrinated into. Start to question all authority. Notice that authority is often wrong, authority is often abusive. Therefore you need to become your own authority Start to notice the limitations of religion. There are much more effective ways of practicing spirituality than religion. Start to notice abuses of the church Notice that beliefs are extremely self-deceptive and that belief is not equivalent to truth and to reality. You could never capture reality within a system of beliefs. Notice that all beliefs are ultimately false and are just a creation of the human mind and that they are relative and are there only to serve the human ego. Start to be more rebellious Notice the limitations of judgments and moralism( Notice that when you are judging others you are actually judging yourself) Start to acknowledge that reality is more relative than you ever thought and this notion of absolute truth maybe doesn't exist at all. Start to acknowledge that good and evil do not exist( Notice that what you call evil, someone else calls good, and what you call good someone else calls evil, that depends on your ego and what your agenda is) Start to question whether God exists at all. Start to question what God is. Start to question your religion and culture Start to question your culture's so called exceptionalism( If you are blue you think your culture is the best) Start to notice that the hierarchy of your civilization is repressive and how it hurts other people, especially minorities. Try to put yourself in the shoes of the people who are being hurt by the hierarchy of your civilization's caste system Notice that is more fun being independent that being reliant on a culture or a set of beliefs or traditions. Start to read self-help books about success. Stop being an anal rule keeper. Relax your rules. Develop a thirst for personal success. Start to have a desire to climb the hierarchy. To get to the top. Strive to be the best at something. Notice that separation of church and state is a good thing. Notice that secularism is a good thing. You wouldn't want to live in a theocracy. Start to study history and start to study the abuses and excesses of stage blue nations throughout history. (Study the Nazis, study Hitler, Study Soviet Russia, Communism, Stalin, study the crusades, study the Spanish conquistadors) Start to see the enslavement of other races that have happened throughout history. Read and research for yourself. Develop a student mindset where you are eager to learn about anything. Read multiple perspectives. ( The problem with blue is that it surrounds itself only with other stage blue individuals and it lives in this bubble of stage blue perspectives, thus living inside an echo chamber and this way it cannot fathom the existence of other perspectives. Go to a diverse university so you get exposed to new perspectives and cultures. Start to study science Practice radical open mindedness. Notice that reality is much more complex and nuanced rather than black and white. Embrace your feminine side more Acknowledge that humans are not superior to animals Acknowledge that men are not superior to women Acknowledge that whites are not superior to any other minority And finally the master key for transcending any stage, especially stage blue, is to practice contemplation and self-reflection. Reflect on your own behavior and analyze where you are making mistakes.
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Hojo replied to emil1234's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think when the false self dissapears your soul touch reality and your soul feels really good when it happens. So the bliss body is God and the good feeling comes when you touch it. -
gettoefl replied to emil1234's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Bliss is, when ego isn't. What i am is what mind blocks thinking it knows better. Awareness of true self indeed activates this. Sat-chit-ananda is the real me. -
this will be an intuitive writing of recent discoveries / experiences of mine. the last years ive been extremely dragged towards eating food. an extreme craving for food. that being said, i eat only 3 times per day very conssitently, and i maintain an extremely healthy diet, consisting mainly of fruits and vegetables. yet the 3 meals are the highlight of my day. however when i eat my breakfirst, i only have lunch in mind. when i eat lunch, i have dinner in mind. its an eternal circle of craving, and i eat like an animal when im finally at it, filling myself without any break. recently ive felt the intuition to slow down and eat more mindfully. I take a piece of food, chew it, swallow, and wait for however long it takes for my body to require more. i feel mindfully into the sensations and urges in my body. i might wait everything between 15 seconds to 2 minutes between every bite. what i've discovered is that what im craving when im stuffing myself with food, is not the actual food, nor the physical sensations and pleasure that comes from eating it. observing myself, my reactions and the food mindfully, i experience what i can only describe as an existential, profound non physical bliss it is bliss that compells me to eat it. it is bliss that i require, not the taste or anything else. Experiencing the bliss right beneath the physical sensations, the food in my mouth becomes trivial and insignifcant, yet its become more rich and beautiful than any piece of food i've ever had. This bliss is not exclusive to the food. It is not exclusive to anything. it is right below everything. its in music. its in my computer. its in my eyes. my ears. my body. and yet it is not confined to it. It is unlike anything ive ever experienced. it cannot be confined. it cannot be located. it is absolutley unbounded, omnipresent, yet nowhere at all. and yet it is absolutley there, and its always been there. a constant. It is distinctly different from physical bliss sensations,since I experience those in my body simultaneously through eating the food. Physical bliss is arising and passing, fluctuating, non constant. This non physical bliss is non fluctuating, constant, non arising and non passing. it is however uncovered and once again covered by a shroud of physicality only, it is clouded by a physical shroud of what the mind thinks it requires. Is this brahman? God? I can only feel that this is a glipmse of the divine. just right beneath everything, there exists unbounded, unconditional bliss. and it is absolutley all-pervasive. alan watts comes to mind: "there is a universe, for the simple reason that it is ecstatic"