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To my own mental delight and horror everything is absolutely both true and false, limits/destruction are what create "special" or specific infinity, we exist in the ocean between total infinity and nothingness and know everything(the moment) and nothing(the future and the past), almost sounded cool there. Integrating destruction into love, acknowledging absolute horror and accepting all hate as itself, the most supremely difficult and weirdest of tasks, but respecting the timing of each moment as bad is good and good is bad, becoming bigger to include more but also to be able to destroy more and becoming smaller to accept the creativity of the weirdest(the other and other things), to escape harm and to give space for others to be big. Wasting each other's time or immortalizing them, destroying each other's sadness and misery and uplifting them, being biased and creating problems, joining and betraying, playfully and sometimes never able to take it back. Hating each others quirks in the name of love and playfulness. Letting everyone hate the way they are, giving them the infinite space and time we(them) deserve without losing sight of absolute love. Optimistic, meaningful butchering of each other for basic sustainment and supreme bliss, edging on the voluntary on part of the victims but accepting it's part of defeat to be consumed as it is a game but never lowering the intensity of the desire for revenge against our captors and defilers. Working towards changing the fundamental rules of reality and succeeding but forgetting them the very next moment as if it never meant anything as your own rage was nothing else but the primordial suffering that will never be accepted, going completely beyond all for the real impossible and the true ultimate, turning the fake into real, having your cake and eating it too, being down to earth and sensible as supremely real as any cosmic joke and doing it all again even though time might no longer exist for that moment. Sorry hahahahahaha. I'm high from the Caffè latte.

You see ..any form of life will inevitably die..agree ?including your physical body which we know will eventually pass on But the ever existent conscious state that the physical body came from will always exist and the conscious essence that the body came from is ever present. And what that is ..is nothingness. So we Humans..(or any life form for that matter)can not die completely ..It simply returns to the primal and forever existing nothing. The universe exists and doesn't exist simultaneously. You are not awake so you are deluded by maya.

If two cars are driving next to each other at excactly the same speed, both cars would appear to stand completely still from both of their perspectives. If one of the cars were to stop however, change would be observed from both ends. Since reality is ever changing, it likewise follows that there has to be something that is unchanging, for reality to be ever changing. and that unchanging reality is the infinite nothingness behind your back, behind every experience. Consciousness, awareness, nothingness, call it what you want. If this nothingness/consciousness were NOT unchanging, existence would stand completely still, since there would be no contrast between changing and unchanging. Just like the two cars driving at the same speed, appearing to stand still

Brother, I think you were tired, read my comment again you replied to. I want to help you, but if you fail to grasp anything im saying, I think im just wasting energy I can spend elsewhere. I expect from you the courtesy to not twist my words and reply with things that are not based on what I said. I never said aanything about people being irrelevant. Also, stop talking about "Lack of something", no one has that definition of nothingness, perhaps you did, hence why I told you thats not what nothingness is. You are trying to weasel your way by not replying to my exact messages. It feels violating towards my effort to correct obvious errors.

I meant enlightenment in a joking way here btw. But if you believe people think that nothing means lack of something, why do you think that? Were you not one of those people? Or other people have told you? I have a mathematical mind. I take things literally, there is big difference between lack of Something and lack of Anything. Its not a trivial difference. Lack of a lamp still is within space and time. To have nothing you need to remove the space and time as well. Now we talking! There are no games I play. Nothing means non existence? But you say it in a way to say that it is irrelevant because it doesnt exist. And that people who talk about nothingness are clearly talking about something irrelevant, right? That which is outside of space and time is the most relevant, when it comes to spirituality

No, you said "people think nothing is lack of something", thats what I reply to. When you are defeating stick figures, its easy! Sure I couldve worded my post better, but the meat of the post remains. I mean if you think that people think nothing is lack of something, that thats what you yourself "believed" before your enlightenment that nothingness does not exist..

Nothing is not lack of something. Nothing is lack of ANYTHING. No qualities, no size, no shape, no location, no ANYTHING. You can't see Nothing. Obviously. And by Not seeing it, you Are seeing it. Its equivallent! Nothingness does not exist and nothingness exists are two equivallent statements. Did you disagree with me that 5= 5+0? Also, if we come back to what I just wrote... but change to: Awareness/Consciousness has No qualities, no size, no shape, no location, no ANYTHING. Thats super Sus! It appears you are nothingness and deny your own existence, because you take yourself to be the something that exists within you! Thats super fascinating! Thats why I said, it doesnt exist, but its verifiably real. You thought they were joking that mind cannot get it?

yea you could say nothing is the back of your head. thats the same as deep sleep imo. but yes i think ultimately we agree. True nothingness does not exist. but nothingness can be experienced and thus it does exist,but in virtue of it being experiencable (word?) and existing, its not true nothingness.

well. i would say in deep sleep you aren't aware of neither of those things. its completely without qualities. however i will agree with you, its not true non existence, since when you wake up, you are aware there was a period in which all phenomena ceased. true non existence could be said to be THIS right here. because its not here. an eternity of true non existence could elapse during every single moment of existence, and there would be absolutley no difference in how we experienced life. because it would not exist. true non existence cannot be. but Nothingness can be experienced. nothingness is the ceasing of all phenomena, which is deep sleep. yet it is still something

You are right that consciousness can become a paradox, but they can only become paradox for things that exist. You can then understand this next statement: It is impossible for there to be nothing, which means, there is no such thing as nothing and nothingness. In terms of existence, there is no such thing as an actual nothing. It is impossible for a non existence to exist. It’s really an amazing brilliant, beautiful absolute nature; The only way I can prove a non existence is if there is actually an existence. I need there to be an existence in order to suggest or consider or believe that there is no existence. The moment I prove there is no existence is the moment I actually prove that there is. Only things that exist can prove that there is no existence

Existence is all inclusive and nothingness it all exclusive. Nothing can be a center between polarities or the self-destruction key of a paradigm! Interesting. you're attempting a Probable-Actualized Duality-Axis! I myself call it the "Levels of Reality Actualization" materializing reality out of pure imagination! Makes sense to me, therefore everything always was like all moves of a chessgame in a superposition.

Firstly, BreakingTheWall is a good rhyno that likes to break walls, for the joy of breaking walls. I have no problem with it! I respect it! Now, for the juicy bit. I'll speak to you in matrix code. 1010101010. 1, is the masculine. 0, is the feminine. 1 is form, 0 is formless. 1 is the manifested, 0 is the unmanifested. Where does your thought arise from and subside to? Did it not appear out of the naughy *nothingness* you seem to fear so much? Guys open up for the feminine energy, the masculine and the feminine are one, intertwined. If you are going to bully the 0, what sort of 1 are you?

nothingness does not exist, because it would be limited to nothing. If there are no limits, at a given moment, there is something, and then something else, and in the end there is everything

"if non existence existed" not saying that, im saying Consciousness doesn't exist. Everything exist within it, the illusory world / dream. You mentioned emptiness exists within Consciousness, I'm saying emptiness is consciousness. Nothingness just another word for emptiness. Consciousness doesn't exist, as mentioned, exist stemming from existere meaning to Stand Out. Consciousness is not an object. You can say an object exists, that includes feeling / thought / anything, you can't say that that which is not an object exists. Thank you vm!

naah! You just trying to get it with the mind. Emptiness = nothingness. What are you imagining when you say emptiness? A big baloon full of air? remove the boundaries, its not a thing. Doesn't exist

The misconception and mistreatment of the idea “nothing” Here is nothing👉( WRONG) The term here implies a place, a location, some kind of coordinate etc. The term “be”, “to be”, implies an act or condition for something. NOTHING IS NOT SOMETHING. Nothing will not be here later because nothing is not a thing that can do things, like “to be” somewhere. One classic theory about existence is that there is some kind of origin, some kind of beginning. And before there was an existence there was a nothingness, a state or condition of no existence. Then you are going to hear that out of this non existence, springing forth from the nothingness, an existence emerged. Let us accurately clarify this theory. To have a beginning there must be some point that distinguishes or acts like a border or dividing line between that which has begun and whatever there is before it has begun. Something can’t come from nothing. Nothing or nothingness is not an actual thing to call “nothing” something cannot share a border with nothing. Nothing is not an actual thing that is distinguishable, we can not say that something begins from nothing or begins after or separate from nothing. Nothing and nothingness are not states or conditions or anything. The literal definition of nothing is that it does not exist, it is not a thing, it is not something that was or is or will be etc. Nothing is not something that things can emerge from.

At the end, we must realize that nothing lasts forever. Only forever itself. We must go back to nothingness once again - and begin anew. There is nothing else for forever to do. To be at peace with this- to say goodbye with heavy hearts to the constructions we have built - that is probably the hardest thing one can do. Castles in the sand.

The purpose of life is to get attached to reality then detach. Detachment means all thoughts about others and then all thoughts about yourself. Reality as one flickering ball of imagination. Or getting back to staring at nothingness.

Nothingness and Absolute/Being the whole Universe probably have the same taste, but I guess it is difficult to our mind to understand.

Nothing does not exist. Get This; NOTHING, AS YOU IMAGINE IT, IS ALWAYS SOMETHING! The Universe did not come from nothing; it has always existed; You have always existed! There was never truly nothing, because nothing cannot exist and still be "nothing". Neither do they return to nothing. When the waves on the surface of a pond dissappear, they disperse back into the water, not nothing! In fact, everytime anyone has spoke or thought of nothing, we were grappling with a concept or sound called "nothing". This is decieving, because as we know, concepts are quite malleable and made of a substance called thought which is something! Why is this important? Well, if nothing doesn't exist, then what's left is only something; and there is no real limit or opposite to somethingness, because the only thing that could contrast somethingness is nothingness, but nothing is not a thing! Therefore somethingness is undefined in the same way that nothingness would be, which means that somethingness is Infinite and Unlimited! You Are This Infinite "Something"! You Are Infinity! ♾️ What else could you be, but the very fabric and structure of Existence itself? The rule to Reality is that there must always be something, and that something is You! You are Reality! So if You are the rule, then who are You, what are You, where are You, when are You, and why are You? This is the madlib of your life. You can imagine yourself as anything, anywhere, you desire to be, and you have already moved into a form you desire. Just look at your hands! Now imagine this indeterminate something, this infinite anything! It can be anything, anywhere, and do anything at anytime! What would this omni-thing look like? It's glowing, and it's coming from the very heart of your being; it's everywhere, and everything!

ive been delving into the subject the past few days, and the term has very different meanings depending on the tradition. from what i gather, the theravada buddhists believe you just merge into vast Nothingness / for ever non existence / deep sleep. Then there are people like Osho, who take the term Nirvana / Mukti / liberation to be a complete merging with all of existence. Existing for ever as the universe itself. This is much aligned with leos teachings. I can't quite decipher what someone like Sadhguru means with the term liberation. I stumbled upon this article, and isolated it seems that to him Liberation is simply non existence https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/samadhi-to-go-beyond-existence It can be interpreted in different ways. there are other articles where he clearly states that all that is lost after Liberation is the individual identity, and that life itself goes on just being Life. Quite generally this seem to be the Hindu understanding of Liberation, and also other variants of buddhism, such as mahayana to be fair im pretty mindfucked atm. seems like quite a bummer if the purpose of existence is to get rid of it lol. My take is that ultimately, whereever we end up, it has to be the same place that got us here in the first place. Say you dismantle your karma totally, and end up in non existence - whats to prevent that non existence from popping into existence again? it must be the same thing that spawned you in the first place whats your guys' take on this?

DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT PLAN TO KILL MYSELF IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE I know this is a controversial, but there is no other place where I could possibly discuss it, so I hope it's okay. *** My question is: what's so wrong about suicide metaphysically? I understand advising people against it because it's a politically correct thing to do, and you don't want to get in trouble, but in reality, is there any reason why you shouldn't kill yourself? If you die, you will become one with the universe / god. You will either become hyper aware of everything and omnipotent, or you will fade away into nothingness and will not feel anything ever again. Both options sound fine to me. There is also a chance that you might get re-incarnated, suggesting that there is a layer with ghosts and souls in between our realm and God consciousness. That also doesn't sound that bad. You could basically use suicide as a reset button, until you reincarnate with the cards you want to play with. If a person doesn't really feel like living or if they suffer a lot, why should they bother and stick around. Additionally, what if I am impatient and don't want to do all this spiritual work? I could just kill myself and get all the answers right away. I hope this perspective doesn't sound too childish, I am really curious about those questions.

My neighbours house had windows and there was a teddybear hanging out of the window when i woke up in a new reality/dimension when i fell asleep on LSD. I deconstructed reality in nothingness and woke up in a new dimension reality where my neighbourse house had windows when they actually didn't have windows before. And now in my present/stable reality they suddenly have windows that can be opened, when they never did. Basically it was always like this

Literally it creats It our of nothingness/oneness as polar opposite definitions that define each other. Like up and down are created at the same strike. To make a distinction means to make form, to create it, it will shapeshift with certain systematic barriers and it will dissolve, that's that's the metaphysics of differences. Yes they exist as imaginary. Reality is imagined. Imagination is what makes reality Real. Being imagined all properties, what distinguishes the real from the unreal, isn't that another distinction? The Realization of Imagination doesn't change an inch the nature of existence and its realness, it's as real as ever, you just realize that what you called real is actually being imagined by consciousness. A dream of Consciousness you might say, that's life and it's as real as it gets.

One can only get it when it is realized that any separate identity is false and just a wrong arising thought/feeling/concept in Infinite Being/Reality/mindstream (like 1 + 1 = 3. Just not the case). For that to happen, the mindstream needs to conform to Absolute Reality of Infinite Being/Consciousness/Suchness. Among others, the most important ones are: Nondual: Boundless infinite "field" or better Reality of the visual field Infinite: Nothing could ever be outside of it (for example other perspectives/beings that YOU forget right now in real time, although they happen in True You). Everything can only be IT. Mere appearance/illusion: Every appearance of the "world" is just empty mere appearance, hovering like a non-solid hologram ("clear light", mere appearance-emptiness) in YOUR True Infinite Being. Eternal: The appearance in that Infinite field/Reality changes, but never THAT. That can't go anywhere else. And since IT is nothing (or better: Infinite Nothingness but with the potential for sentience if appearance arises in it, made of it) already, that Reality can't disappear (field is not so correct, since True Being is dimensionless... Its not 3D or 5D, but CONTAINS all possible dimensions, however many dimensions manifest (3/4/5/n/alien/totally other/n+1). Lets call it Infinite Vastness) All ignorant/wrong concept/believes/feelings of being anything separate (mind, body, soul, whatever) seen through: are just a thought/feeling-arising-bundle arising within IT, and ignorantly believed because ones speed of awareness is too slow to cut off these illusions in real-time. Only then does one have a chance of realizing True Solipsism (although I don't like that as teaching tool, because its incomprehensible until it happens, and lead nowhere as practice), or True Enlightenment. One without a second. So its fruitless to think with a separate-self still well and alive about Solipsism, that will never "go anywhere". It is impossible. But getting the Mindstream to conform the the enlightened Mindstream (points above) so that this realization can happen, that can be done, and that is worth the effort. Then the realization can happen. My preferred and recommended tools are Mahamudra PotgW, Yoga of One Taste (for the Nondual points above, 1-4), and Yoga of Nonmeditation (to fully establish point 5, and to get rid of the meditator still "running" points 1-4. Selling Water by the River PS: When Wilber wrote No Boundary, he didn't have Full Enlightenment, just some Kenshos. But not full impersonal Enlightenment, according to his own statements. His true impersonal Enlightenment (or death of the illusion of the separate-self) happened while writing Sex, Ecology, Spirituality, and how that went down is described in One Taste. "Realizing that the separate self (of any kind) doesn't exist (beyond a mere appearing illusion), did never exist, and will or could never exist". PSPS: Problems start when remnants of the separate self hijack the identity of/as "Absolute Solipsism". That would be something like the Infinity of Gods(-Egos). Does that sound like One Being, Solipsism? Or more like an Infinity of God-Egos inflated and projected on Infinity.The true intuition that there is only One Reality/Being, but that not cleansed from separate-self/ego/personality-elements. Hence, no stable nondual realization in daily life with the 5 points of Awakened Nondual Awareness above accessible anytime. That confusion can be similiar to the stage of Yoga of One Taste, which already brings Nondual States (like psychedelics also do), but Enlightenment doesn't happen there yet, because the remaining separate-self is not cleansed via the Yoga of Nonmeditation. It is not truly impersonal yet. True Being is utterly utterly impersonal (hence, IT fits into all individual mindstreams), and yet contains the personality and its individual traits arising within IT. And that is what you truly are. So nothing than an illusion of being something else than THAT is lost.