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The goal isn’t to feel happy all the time. It is a simple thought experiment. If your loved ones are hurt and are going to die, you want to feel something other than a blissful smile. Extreme bliss is dysfunctional.

No. if your girlfriend is cheating on you, would you rather know the Truth or live a lie? I think bliss 24/7 is unhealthy. If your girlfriend is cheating on you, it is okay to be angry. If you are going on an adventure, it is okay to feel fear. All emotions are valid and have their own unique strengths. This Buddhist dogma nonsense is getting on my nerves.

As I said before ..to me this work is about achieving happiness not about truth . Trust me ..what you want is happiness and joy ..bliss and tranquility 24/7 ..isn't that correct ? you truly want to be blissful all the time you can be.. Who are "you" really? you are This blissful nature itself. It can be difficult to appreciate your own blissful nature. Because we are caught up In survival. And because life is a bitch .you jump out of one problem only to find yourself in another one . In order to appreciate your own natural state of bliss you must cease taking yourself for what you are not... What are you not? A physical organism. What are you? Consciousness! You are that Consciousness in which the organism exists. You perceive the organism in Consciousness. The “I” is an illusion.. a delusion.There exists no “I” that is born..dies lives..comes ..goes .possesse.. grows old.. acquires. displays..exudes..acts or accomplishes. There is simply life living itself. Is life difficult? No doubt about it . Can you be blissful 24/7? Yes you can . I still haven't figured out how ..so if anyone knows let me know ?.

Many years ago I was deeply devoted to the truth or spiritual path, I did everything as a strict yogi or monk would, for many months I live minimally and cut out everything that no longer served my highest good or truth. Many months later I had realized I had been in an unconscious/conscious state for many months in what seemed to be an ever-present bliss. I only came back into my body and ego when I had to write my name in a document, I realized wow... I completely forget I had a name and am this person, this character, had this life ect.. ect... before that I was in this heavenly haze of another level of awareness but sadly I cannot remember it clearly, at least with my ego-mind. No psychedelics were used, just daily meditation, books, solfeggio frequencies in headphones, fasting, eating very little, being in my own little bubble. Psychedelics give me some glimpses of that but nothing really comes close to takes me back, I was absolutely gone for months. What on earth happened and what did I experience? I can never seem to get back there, I was triggerless, always blissfull, had no ups or downs, at least to the best of my ability to remember, its like a faded memory now, but ever now and then I gain greater clarity and remembrance of that experience. When I forgot I was this person and had a name...

Exactly. I held back the desire to argue and control my girlfriend last night. When I let go of that desire, bliss was nowhere to be missed. Love always wins, and you are the source of love.

The one trying to create bliss is always amiss.

Then if you're omnipotent simply create it for yourself. If you can't then you're limited in which case perhaps learn from someone that actually teaches how to create bliss or esctasy lke Sadhguru and not Leo.

To answer your question, I'm omnipresent and omnipotent so I'm everything and everywhere all at once, being everything and no-thing simultaneously. So there's a version of me in ecstacy right now, somewhere in space-time having a beautiful orgasm filled with ecstatic bliss.

life, eternal cycle of creation and destruction create prosperity, create god, create money and drugs, create pleasure, create bliss, create the self exnilo just cross out non-being and write in God.

I was depressed and going to kill myself caused by my soul crushing fear of death and abusive household that caused me to have neurological problems where I would blame myself for everything and make up situation in which I did something wrong all the time. I decided I was going to try shroom to heal me if it didn't work I would kill myself. I take only 2 grams and my Indentity instantly went off like a switch and I'm looking at my hand and I say to myself I'm not even real I'm just making everything up. If I'm not real that means I can't die if I can't die that means I'm immortal. Then I hear a voice ask me if I'm not real than what am I? Oh my God i have to be God. Suddenly I feel my life energy crushed in my feet and it starts raising up my legs up my torso into my brain. Fireworks start going off in my brain. I feel like god is pushing really hard on my forehead and my third eye and crown chackra just blow open and my soul gets torn off my screen and blows off reality. I'm looking at my soul and all I hear is 1000 voices saying I love you I love you you are perfect you are perfect you are beautiful you are beautiful over and over again and in just orgasming times a million then I started laughing and screaming and crying as hard as I could for like 6 hours. Every neuron in my mind firing straight up all at the same times in orgasmic bliss

Infinite Consciousness/Reality (I don't use God though technically correct because it creates more misunderstandings in this context than it solves. Like blowing up the Ego to God-sized dimensions, which the exactly opposite route than transcending the separate self/Ego) is awake throughout. IT is aware, and is what you really are. "It" (True You) is nothing specific (despite containg/being everything), but empty Awareness. Totally empty/nothing, but aware, and containing all form. But arising in it is what you think yourself to be right now (I-thoughts and I-feelings), that you don't see/view fast enough to transcend. You see "through" them, like coloured lenses. These lenses of perceptions (I-thoughts and I-feelings, separate-self arisings, making you feel and think you are a body or mind WITHIN Reality, but somehow separate from the boundless Reality) are what cloud your understanding of the Nature of Infinite Consciousness/Reality. When you learn to view (and cut) these arisings fast enough (long training process normally), awakened or nondual states can appear. Then the locatedness of "you" drops, making You the whole field. And other effects (infinite, eternal/always here, empty/impersonal). The three points above are at least in my perspective more useful to describe the process (than asking what wakes up, God or Ego), because: God or Infinite Consciousness doesn't awake. It is always awake/aware, can't be different. The Ego doesn't really exist (EXist=stand out from Raelity). So it can't wake up. It the sum/Gestalt of the appearance of I-thoughts, I-feelings that arise in True You. Once your mindstream/perspective awakenes, these arisings are no longer believed and (if wanted) totally cut off. Your Ego/character becomes literally something like moskito buzzing around in you. And if the character becomes annoying/suffering, you can "chase" it away like an annoying insect. The volume/believeability of its voice goes to "lower than 5%" of what is was before. That is just a pointer. It can only be really understood what it happens. The tools you use to imagine that state (necessarily including I-thoughts) are those that prevent the awakend state in which you could understand it. So the path is Meditation, Trekchö/Cut-Off every thought, Neti Neti, get empty, change to awakened states. And let these states refine and empty your Identity towards Truth. Because what clouds your mindstream, what you think you are, the I-feelings and I-thoughts, are not what you really are. You are much more. But you can only authentically say that when you are in awakened states. Before having stabilized these nondual states, thinking you are everything is just wishful thinking. It doesn't end suffering. Because it is not a change of thinking/concepts. It is not deciding or believing to no longer belief concepts (That "stripping" would be more concepts). it is learning to cut any arising concept/belief/I-thought/I-feeling FAST enough so that your state changes to awakened and nondual states. Thinking to want to no longer belief or stripping of beliefs/ideologies is itself a thought process, not the cutting of all thought arisings including that one. These are very specific states that have counterparts in the bodily energies for example. Enlightenment is a state shift towards nondual, boundless, and empty/impersonal (at least if there is intention for cutting the mindstream if wanted, for example for getting the bliss of the primordial Consciousness). At other times, the character can do its thing. But the body-mind has become an object doing its thing within YOU, Reality itself. (1) If it wouldn't remove suffering, what should make you stay in these enlightened states? You would continue grasping and searching for evermore experiences, like every unenlighened being. (2) Also, you will know the nature of Absolute Reality beyond any doubt. That includes what You are, what Reality is, what every arising/form/phemenon is in its essence, and that you are immortal. And nothing else can be anything different than THAT. Since anything there could be, in any dimension or realm, would just be more "form" or content arisings within Infinite Consciousness. But what would (2) be worth if you still suffer? You would search and grasp for some other experiences... Which obviously the enlightened ones stopped doing. All of them, at all times. They didn't grasp for experiences, and didn't suffer when they didn't get certain experiences. They for sure had preferences, could feel pain, but they didn't grasp or "psychologically-suffering-wise" resist what is. She who is centered in the Tao can go where she wishes, without danger. She perceives the universal harmony, even amid great pain, because she has found peace in her heart. - Tao Te Ching Since every separate being (or better: perspective) is at its essence Infinite Consciousness/Reality itself, every mindstream will end up enlightened. The game is to cast the formless out into form, explore the infinities of infinities that can be manifested (God will never run out of these), and come back home. It is the nature of Reality. It is apparently what Reality does. Love is what throws it all out, and pulls it all back, and its also the essence of every form. That btw. is not fancy mental musings, but actual Reality, potentially directly experienceable by every(!) being in certain awakened states. Water by the River PS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_(film) "During the evacuation, Donnelly expresses his love for Banks. They talk about life choices and whether he would change them if he could see the future. Banks knows that she will agree to have a child with him despite knowing their fate: that Hannah will die from an incurable disease and Donnelly will leave them both after she reveals that she knew this."

Yes. Let us assume a few things as true (and see if they resonate): (1) that Reality ultimately is "good" (and not evil) and wants every being to finally realize its True Being. (2) Which (realizing True Being) luckily is the same as peace/bliss/happiness. (3) What is the ONLY way to ensure that? Suffering until realizing Ones True Being. At least suffering from time to time, to make beings keep searching and growing... Only Alternative to that is: happy ever after not knowing or realizing what one really is, or what Reality is. Forever. Sounds rather cruel to me.... It is some kind of mathematical-logical formula if we just work with these three assumptions (that is why I wrote if they resonate). If we assume that these three points (1) (2) (3) are true, there has to be sometimes suffering until Full Realization happens. And only the final thing (Full Realization, Deep Identity Level Shift of Full Enlightenment) delivers the peace of the transcedence of suffering. And its not bleak, empty, dead, nothing, or "personal minus". It is the Fullness of Reality, personal/character (plus) minus separation. The celebration of manifestation, but without attachment. The character then can grow to its full potential, fear gone, joy and celebration here and now. And the even better news is: One only illusory "leaving" ones True Nature and being separate. No"one" ever could really be separate. That is not possible in an Infinite Totality. It can only appear as such. The ILLUSION-arising of the separate-self within Oneself (True Self). So THAT is the ultimate criteria or compass if there is one: Suffering or not. Separate-Self Contraction (and Illusion/Ignorance) or not. An imaginary trip back home, after casting Oneself out into manifesting Infinite Realms of form and manifestation. Bon Voyage & lets don't forget to celebrate the ride back home. And lets never declare a stage as end-point that contains suffering. It only prolongs the way back home, until that illusion-mindset is also broken by suffering. Selling Water by the River She who is centered in the Tao can go where she wishes, without danger. She perceives the universal harmony, even amid great pain, because she has found peace in her heart. Only in being lived by the Tao can you be truly yourself. Approach it and there is no beginning; follow it and there is no end. You can’t know it, but you can be it, at ease in your own life. Just realize where you come from: this is the essence of wisdom - Tao Te Ching

There isn't one central authority governing the use of language pertaining to spirituality, so the words are used quite loosely and interchangeably by some, and for others enlightenment is ultimate while awakening may be an initial experience of spirituality. I tend to modify either term with "partially" or "fully" for clarity's sake. Then some people call a psychedelic experience as awakening. It may be an awakening, loosely speaking, but it doesn't mean it is a nondual awakening where you have permanently shifted into a state where you no longer experience "the center" (i.e. "I" is identified as the body or some bodily location, like point between your eyes.) After that state where you experience "the center" there are a bunch of intermediate states, where you progressively identify with local emptiness, universal emptiness, God/bliss, and ultimately all identification ceases and the subject-object duality is gone. You can call this full awakening or full enlightenment or whatever else you want. There are different names for this. Moksha, self-realization, sahaja samadhi, etc. (Of course, past that there is a period of years of integration, because personality habits have to unwind. A lot of shadow work takes place here.) So if you want a definition, enlightenment is the attainment of the "natural state" where conditioned notions of separateness are seen through and realization of The Absolute as the true reality is complete.

When I meditate, or when I contemplate questions related to reality, or feel higher in consciousness, I feel this intense pleasure throughout the body. I call it pleasure not bliss because though it feels good it is quite intense, and I'd rather stop feeling it after a few minutes. I don't know what this is. The more I disindentify with this pleasure, the more intense it gets. It's in every part of my body. The deeper I get with my awareness, the more intense it gets, and after a while it's so intense I can't focus on the penetration into reality. It gets too distracting. Imagine your whole body was vibrating, inside and outside, with the middle of your forehead warm and tensely relaxed. It feels good but it's too distracting. Infact, when I focus on the beingness of reality, it reaches another level, it jumps from the level of pleasure to contentment, and the contentment is so intense I can't observe straight. I get distracted. I want to get further, how do I overcome this? Do you know of any references that talk about my experience? I NEED to get past this stage, I have been stuck here for months.

It has been a lot of time now, since I have discontinued from this forum. Leo's teaching has influenced me a lot in every phase of my life since I have started following him first time around 2015. After more than a year just watching his different videos which had the knowledge and deep understanding of about almost everything.. I have started being a part of this forum. Whenever I had time, I used to very curiously read the new posts in almost all sections of the forum and read the answers Leo gives or any other person. Being an introvert initially, I was not good at expressing myself and it was more about following the content and listening to different voices. At one point of time, it felt like I was following him too much that I was saying the same words that Leo says in his videos.. And It was just too much so gradually I found other great masters to listen to, and that also gave me a new perspective of Leo's work, Now I could see deeper layer of his work. I started writing my journal of this forum and made a lot of posts there, I was trying to express intense emotions I felt while on meditations. One day I found a person who felt like my own part in a feminine body and It has never been boring with her since then. After she came to my life, everything has been completely transformed.. Who I was then and who I am now is complete different, She has grown me not just spiritually but also helped me push through scores of barriers in my emotional and material growth. I really thought this forum to be not useful for me anymore, so I discontinues. I also had to learn through experience about my orange and green phase of spiral dynamics. At that time I strongly associated myself with orange values and since most people on this forum seems like green stage, got into conflicts with me just for the ideology and ego. I also had a lot of ego. I had a little spur of enlightenment before her, but now I constantly live in an enlightened flow experience. I constantly get out of these experiences, yet again find it soon, It's like i know that place of nothingness, where I can rest in calm of solitude, or sometimes even remain alert in the crowded noises. Everything feels so new and a lucid sense of experience starts to touch you, where you feel completely accomplished, and there is complete bliss. But even after seated in such an experience, My mind still returns to its castle and still sometimes can demand like a child, my mind certainly has not been a very disciplined one. Sooner or later it starts to feel pain for desiring one thing or another, things that it has experienced and which were more addictive to any drugs. When you are experiencing bliss at all times, when you pursue a new pleasure, it also mixes in this bliss, making this intensely more pleasing and addictive. that's why it become harder and harder for an enlightened person to push their boundaries. Everything starts giving a new experience, body has a different kind of energy and mind has already found its most natural state of bliss.

To understand something, one has to view it as something that has revolving facets, when you get stuck on one side, that is when the trouble starts. Of course, I understand the temptation of cheating. It is thrilling and exciting. I imagine that the experience is so amazing compared to the boring and mundane world. It feels so good to loved, cared and treated so well. It is wonderful to escape the harsh realities. There is nothing better to feel truly special and for it to be all about you for once, you give and give and it's nice to feel acknowledged and appreciated. It is so good to have all the dreams that live in your mind come out to play and can fantasize about the possibilities and feel joy and bliss even if it is for a fleeting moment. Yes, I know the appeal. I can emphasize with it. I can appreciate it. Even admire it. Atrractive to men and women alike. However, no matter how great something is to him. It can damage whatever is around him. You build a house, insects, plants and trees and animals that depend on that tree are going to die. What you do has a footprint. When people are involved, you got to watch where you're stepping or you are going to damage something you love. Therefore, to build something lasting, it is imperative to conduct yourself in ways that cause the least amount of damage. That means building a relationship on trust. If there is a simpler and easier concept that builds a relationship, I would be so happy to explore and examine it. Concepts like love and compassion and selflessness are nice but esoteric and complex and require years of contemplation to get, by the time you get it, the relationship is long gone and your have to work it out with a new partner require even more years or cocreating the concept. Trust is simple, you believe in that person, you rely on them, you know they got your back, it provides a purity and simplicity, Most important is has utility, it is useful. Accordingly, you have a concept that builds a relationship. Trust. I simply assign faithfulness as a symbol of that trust, because sex is a core part of a relationship for being connected and for having a family. Therefore, faithfulness is non-negotiable.

Sounds amazing. So overall you'd say the inner engineering course from Sadghuru was the best investment of your life? Somewhere else you talked about how for about a year you were just unravelling knots with some yoga technique or so, to then eventually experience all this bliss. Is this working on the knots related to the Sadghuru course?

Shadow work is somewhat helpful if you have many small traumas along with the big ones. If you work on the small traumas, you will be able to break free from them easily. Well, it's easy to say that one can be blissful and have high energy but it's not easy to embody this bliss. Also, it's not easy to let go of all traumas or some physical ailments or pain you may have. If you can do that, then you are probably enlightened or highly awakened which most of us are not.

You can awaken to being completely alone as God. You can call this whatever you want. Bit you can awaken to being God - with all other being you - no different than a dream at night. Does that make you alone? Yes, from the sense that you for the first time realize that everything else including the idea of you is held within your mind as an idea. It will shock you to the core. But that is God realization. It also comes with Divine Bliss. It is not all bleak. It is only bleak for the first time God realizes it is by itself. It is a responsibility no one wants.

IT is available any time, and most of the time it is always there without doing anything. If the character gets annoying and tries to generate bad emotions via suffering (which has reduced tremendously anyway), "I" just look into it, see what "I" really am, what the "substance" of the character trying to close down/feel bad really is, and the bug is dead and transcended again. Goes from "oh, that is not good"-character-arising to a small voice somewhere in the background unable to grip attention, and the field again nondual and infinite without center. The arisings of the separate self just stop, don't get believed anymore, loose their hypnotic power, because it feels way better and the "choice" is there. Yet, my functional character works better than ever. Less filters, more intuition, much more bliss, love and compassion. What would it be worth if it wouldn't be always available? Its actually too good to be true, besides being true. @Arthogaan wrote that a bit more direct experience description is appreciated, which I understand. Which I don't often do, because here is already enough ego-bravado, so I tend to write more on the neutral and technical side. But at the same time, sometimes it is probably good to write a bit more about direct experience. Besides, when I write technical descriptions, I write it from own experience and understanding, and use the best sources I know to show how similiar the deep structure is over various systems and paths. Water by the River PS: And a more technical description, using an analogy: Before fully realizing what one really is (Impersonal Infinite Consciousness/Awareness/Nothingness without a second), one doesn't really know that 2 +2 is 4. One intuits maybe that it is more like 3,9 than 8,5. One intuits that it is eternal (always here), nondual, infinite, mere appearance (lets say thats 4.5). But its not fully impersonal, some individuality of being a separate "anything" (although already an aware nothing) being still there. Ones Deep Identity is not obviously fully it, because that Realization is still missing. Roger Thisdells Videos stage 4 and stage 5 are the best material I am aware of to describe that subtle (but absolutely deciding) difference. But once knowing ones True Nature (when it becomes really nondual, fully impersponal, yet at the same time really the Whole Reality), one knows exactly that 2 +2 is 4, always has been, always will be, and can't be different. There is no more doubt about. Couldn't be. Doubt is moving within Oneself, it doesn't make sense, one knows its structure as moving arising appearing (doubt-) thought. Reality is directly known and understood by BEING it. Infinite Consciousness/Reality understands/realizes its own essence/being. There is nothing else besides "it", and nothing else that is or could be aware. So it can only be known by being it, the boundless infinite nondual Totality. The first time realizing 2 + 2 is 4 is a direct and unmistakenable realization/experience into THAT which is (and was) always here and the case. The magic word is fully impersonal, fully empty, separate self fully transcended/dead/gone. That is the common denominator of all Full Enlightenment Experiences/Realization descriptions. They all use different surface language, that is the deep structure element in all of them. If that is missing, it is one of the preliminary Enlightenment/Awakening Experiences on the path leading to the Full Realization/Shift. And after knowing/realizing 2+2 is 4, that knowing is always available in case one gets sloppy and the character tries to create some confusion or suffering. I look into the character-arisings, see there Nature/Substance, which is the same unnameable Suchness of Everything, of Reality, and 2+2 is 4, the character bug is dead again, and doesn't cause suffering. So in that way, it is always available (it is and was there all along anyway), and one reorients the whole character to constantly stay in that. In Ken Wilbers Words: From Peak Experience to Plateau to Permanent (which holds for all transformation stages). But once 2 + 2 = 4 is known, then the separate self character just burns like ice in the desert. Maybe that is a bit helpful. PS PS: And of course, lets not forget, only @Bazooka Jesus is AWAKE. The ONE and ONLY.

I agree, im not sure why, i think for some substances it triggers norepinephrine for some and not others causing completely different experiences. This current malt trip i got a big dose of adrenaline. I get a similar experience with marijuana, while other people have pure bliss on it. LSD and mushrooms for me there is absolutely 0 adrenaline response or panic of any kind, I can handle high amounts no problem and it feels like a 8-12 hour orgasm. But there is a hang over the next day. --- Oddly i had a lot of very interesting insights and experiences that night and the next day! If felt like I understood why this is happening and I felt loved. Nothing deep, im only scratching the surface.

Just by the way you talk is clear that you need shadow work. I see no bliss at all in your words. Yet you seem to preach that everyday you explote in infinite bliss, like it's so casual for you that you need no more shadow work. I really feel no love and bliss behind your words. How can you resolve this contradiction?

You have the power to transform shit into bliss. Nothing is stopping you, butt you.

Answer: God is all-knowledge, and one cannot know His true nature till one attains Self-Realisation. Then one will find Him to be none other than oneself, the only Atman, the only Self there is, and that He is with form as the world and without form as Chit, Pure Consciousness. In the meantime, prayers, worship and meditation have to be performed. Question: How can our minds be free for prayer and meditation. When we are so burdened by work and family responsibilities? What should we do in that case? Answer: Let the work be done of its own accord, without strain. Work without the feeling that it is you who are working. Take it as if it is God's work, done through you as His instrument. Then your mind will be at rest and peaceful. That is prayer and meditation. ~ Words of Anandamayi Ma. Human life is fruitful when one becomes a pilgrim to the revelation of one's True Being (Svarupa prakasa). Time (samaya) is fruitful when one is ever keenly intent on becoming Self-pervaded (svamaya). "If you learn to look upon God as merciful in whatever condition you are, if you can think that "Oh God, whatever happiness I am getting is your gift, you are appearing in front of me in scarcity and plentitude, then you will realize that nothing in the world can afford your grief. You will then realize God in all His magnificence, and be immersed in peace and supreme bliss." Although her teachins are profund pointers I also feel they pale in comparison with her presence. She gave no discourses and only answered questions, which as she used to say came spontaneously to her, as you play this instrument you shall hear. Answers then can only be as good as the sate of consciousness of the one that asked and are manifested for that person uniquely, hence we see the limitation of such comunication for an outside read. On the other hand, watching her pictures can be a very uplifting form of darshan (connecting with God via form), that can bypass limitations of space and time, and are only bound to the state of intensity, presence and consciousness that you find yourself in. I also feel that the Mahamrityunjaya Mantra is very close to her and specially in the way is chanted in that video. You can find that same tune posted with her photo all arround the internet. Don't search for the meaning of the mantra, the vibrations themselves are the meaning and you will find that the effect is liberating, it frees oneself of all knots like a mastery key. If you feel curious just do it as an experiment. Watch the video and become aware that all is God and God is all there is, that cognition must be carried throughout the video. All is God and God is all there is, all phenomena right now is God, the witness is God. I am God experiencing myself, enjoying and rejoicing within myself.

I did like 6mg intranasal and it was like microdose of lsd nothing more it barely had an effect. A friend of mine did accidently 80-90 mg intranasal and he said it was simillar to lsd and that it was too much that he had to puke after puking he was in bliss and meditated