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Content vs Structure - Going Meta Is A Super-power https://youtu.be/eq3htbsa5rk "It's the structure, stupid." Content vs Structure Distinction: Leo introduces the concept of differentiating content from structure, emphasizing that while content refers to the specifics within a given framework, structure pertains to the rules, formats, or constraints that define the possibilities of what content can exist. Examples Illustrating Content and Structure: DVD Discs: The physical disc and encoding format represent the structure, whereas the data on the disc is the content. NFL (National Football League): The NFL acts as the structure, setting the rules and parameters for the teams, games, players, and organizational operations, with the specific teams and games being the content. English Language: Language is the structure that shapes what can be thought or expressed, influencing the content of speech and writing. TED Talks: The specific format and audience of a TED Talk constitute the structure, offering a platform for a diverse range of topics (content) to be shared. Video Games: The medium of video games provides a structure with its norms and standards, while the different genres and titles make up the content. Schools: The educational system's structure dictates what can be taught, and changing this structure could alter the fundamental nature of the schooling experience. The Trap of Content: People often get engrossed in content without paying attention to the structure that enables it. Leo uses the analogy of being wrapped up in a football game on TV without considering the structuring entities like the NFL or the television itself. Dream as Example of Overlooking Structure: When engrossed in a dream's content, people fail to realize they are dreaming (structure), leading to being tricked by the dream. 'Going Meta' as Gaining New Dimensional Insight: Leo explains 'going meta' as stepping back from content to observe the structure, uncovering a hidden dimension and allowing for significant shifts in perspective and understanding. For example, understanding that religion is not just about specific beliefs but also about the overarching structure of ideologies. Practical Applications of Going Meta: Understanding Used Car Sales: Rather than focusing on specific cars, going meta involves studying the processes and structures of how cars are bought and sold. Studying Structures of Religions: Instead of adhering to one religion, going meta means examining how all religions fit into a broader structure of ideologies and transcending that structure. Importance of Understanding Structure: Leo emphasizes the power of shifting focus from consuming content to a deep study of structures, leading to a richer appreciation and understanding of various aspects of life. Appreciation and Limitations of Meta Perspective in Entertainment: Leo enjoys behind-the-scenes documentaries because they offer a meta perspective of the entertainment industry, pointing out various aspects of film production. This meta perspective simultaneously enriches understanding but can also diminish the magic of the content by exposing its flaws and production realities. Illusion and Disillusionment of Content: When individuals delve into the structure of something, like a movie, they can no longer enjoy it with the same naivety. Leo likens the thorough understanding of a movie's making to the realization that reality’s content is often enjoyed without knowledge of its creation, which can be disillusioning. Hypnotizing Effect of Good Content: Good content, such as a horror movie, can engross and emotionally affect viewers, distracting them from the underlying structure. Recognizing this, Leo suggests that being too analytical or "meta" during such experiences can spoil the enjoyment. Content vs. Structure in Religion and Culture: Religion and culture can be deeply engrossing, with the potential to hypnotize people to the extent that they become resistant to analyzing the structure of their beliefs. Leo highlights that going meta can be threatening, inciting fear, anger, or discomfort when deeply-held beliefs are challenged. Culture's Arbitrary Nature: Leo points out the arbitrariness of cultural norms and values, noting that each culture believes in its superiority without recognizing the commonalities and arbitrary nature of cultural systems. Science as a Structured Lens: Scientists can become so engrossed in their work that they overlook the structural "keyhole" through which they view reality. Leo posits that science offers just one narrow perspective and structural understanding is required to see beyond it. Structural Similarities in Religious Disagreements: Leo illustrates how Christianity and Islam, while differing in content, share similar ideological structures, making them more alike than adherents realize. He echoes this sentiment with the Sunni and Shiite divide, suggesting that their violent disputes over lineage are based on a minor content discrepancy rather than large structural differences. Atheism and Theism Structural Similarity: He argues that atheism and theism are both belief systems with structural similarities, despite appearing as opposites in terms of content. Hypnotizing Power of Content: Leo conveys how content can become an illusion that engrosses individuals, preventing them from seeing or understanding the underlying structure, as demonstrated by heated disagreements within religions or between belief systems. Attachment to Atheism or Theism: Leo Gura points out that individuals often resist the idea of going meta because it would disrupt their deeply held beliefs. By refusing to transcend and examine atheism or theism from a structural perspective, they remain deluded, unable to see that both positions can be equally misguided. Conflation of Drugs and Psychedelics: Mainstream society frequently misunderstands psychedelics and typical hard drugs, categorizing them as equally harmful due to their surface-level similarities. However, structurally, they are fundamentally different; psychedelics can be therapeutic and anti-addictive, whereas hard drugs are generally harmful and addictive. Overemphasis on Politician Identity: Voting for politicians based on superficial identity markers like gender or ethnicity without considering deeper structural factors, such as policies and moral development, is a mistake. Leo asserts that it's crucial to scrutinize the structure of their abilities and potential governance rather than get caught up in their identity. Cable News Structure Affecting Content: The structure of cable news prioritizes sensationalism, mass appeal, and advertiser interests over comprehensive and unbiased reporting. Viewers often don't realize their perception of reality is being shaped by the selective content filtered through these structural biases. Fox News and the Hypnosis of Content: Leo highlights that outlets like Fox News capitalize on viewers who prefer not to question what they are presented with, leading to a form of hypnotic reinforcement of their existing beliefs. This hypnosis prevents viewers from acknowledging the possibility or the value of examining the underlying structure of news and ideologies. Illusion vs. Reality and the Importance of Going Meta: People tend to accept the content they are exposed to as reality, not realizing it's structured in a specific way to create an illusion. Fox News viewers, for instance, are unaware of what they're missing by not comparing their news source with others due to being trapped in the content's illusionary quality. Reluctance to Go Meta: Many individuals do not investigate structures or question their realities, content in the belief that they have a firm grasp on what's real, leading to what Leo describes as 'paradigm lock'. Structure of Platforms like Facebook: Leo explains that platforms such as Facebook have structures that shape their content significantly, allowing for the manipulation and propagation of ideas - advantageous for some, like foreign entities aiming to influence elections, and problematic for others. These structures support ideological bubbles by reinforcing pre-existing viewpoints through algorithms. Religion as a Structure: Religion in practice has a rigid structure with strict parameters that dictate how followers engage with it, which can limit truth-seeking and cause practitioners to miss out on other experiences. Academic Philosophy and Universities: These institutions function within structures that prioritize their maintenance over the pursuit of genuine truth, evidenced by the constraints placed on the methodologies and topics that can be discussed or researched. American Healthcare as a Dysfunctional Structure: The structure of the American healthcare system benefits certain individuals like doctors and pharmaceutical companies, but overall, it is dysfunctional for many others, emphasizing symptom treatment over curing diseases. Education vs Indoctrination: Leo contrasts the structures of education and indoctrination, illustrating education as a means of discovery and indoctrination as a fixed system that stifles independent thought and inquiry, prevalent in both religious and public schooling. Novelty and Restrictions in Different Mediums: Society often becomes enamored with a single medium or structure, missing out on the range of other experiences available. These include various forms of art, science, and scholarly disciplines, as well as different styles of teaching, like the Montessori method that promotes independence and inquiry over rote learning. Understanding and Redefining God: Leo offers a structural perspective on the concept of God, emphasizing it as an experience rather than a belief, which typically differs from mainstream religious conceptions, encouraging viewers to go beyond preconceived notions and surface appearances. Diversity in Human Psyches and Minds: There is a significant structural diversity among human beings in terms of genetics, biology, brain types, and personality, contrary to the common assumption that everyone shares the same perception of reality. Diverse Human Minds and Psyches: Humans have structurally different minds and psyches that process information and react to substances distinctly due to genetics and biology, demonstrated by phenomena such as instant mathematical calculation ability and perfect memory. Common Structures in World Religions: Surface-level differences between religions like Christianity and Hinduism mask deeper structural similarities. Deep study reveals commonalities suggesting a universal human spiritual inclination, which some interpret as evidence of a deeper truth about God. Authority in Science and Religion: Despite apparent differences, science and religion share a structural reliance on authority for establishing truth, contradicting the notion held by many scientifically minded people that these institutions fundamentally differ in this regard. Survival Across Economic Classes: Survival concerns exist for both poor and wealthy individuals, manifesting through different content such as basic needs for the poor and social status-maintenance behaviors for the rich, pointing towards a deep structural similarity in survival. Nintendo Games - Content vs Structure: Criticisms about Nintendo's repeated use of the Mario brand overlook the structural differences between the games. Each new installment has a unique game design, with the Mario character serving as a familiar branding wrapper. Structural Basis of Corporate Success: The success of major corporations like Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Netflix isn't solely due to the quality of their work or ethics, but primarily due to structural advantages that enable monopoly and market domination. Wealth and Power as Structural Phenomena: Millionaires and billionaires achieve their status not just through hard work but also by exploiting structural opportunities and navigating systems in their favor, often supported by a pyramid-like structure unsustainable for all. Going Meta and Understanding Success: Leo encourages developing the ability to go meta, i.e., to recognize the difference between content and structure in order to prevent suffering caused by an illusion of content, and to aim for success through understanding and leveraging structural factors. Consciousness as the Ultimate Structure: Consciousness is the ultimate entity within which all content exists. Understanding the structure of consciousness is essential for comprehending life and overcoming the influence of its dynamic content. Shared Structures in Ideologies: Diverse ideologies and political perspectives may have different content but often share similar structures. Liberals and conservatives, for example, represent different stages of cognitive, moral, and spiritual development which inform their discord. Personal Development through Structural Understanding: Lasting personal transformation and fulfillment come from working on the psyche's structure rather than being distracted by the ephemeral content of everyday experiences, aspirations, and ideologies. Wealth and Structural Hierarchy: Wealth, power, and the notion of being self-made are deeply intertwined with structural hierarchy. To become wealthy, one must exploit existing economic structures, often designed as a pyramid scheme. This is not universally sustainable; for millionaires and billionaires to exist, there must be a hierarchy. Identity and Ideology in Wealth Accumulation: Millionaires and billionaires may struggle with the guilt of acquiring wealth through inequitable structures. To continue accruing wealth without moral conflict, they adopt ideologies that make them oblivious to the suffering they cause and justify the maintenance of the hierarchical structure. Structural Maintenance for Wealth Preservation: Wealthy individuals actively work to maintain the hierarchical structures that enabled their wealth. This involves political influence, funding think tanks, and promoting ideologies to prevent the collapse of the hierarchy and to rationalize their position. Consciousness and Going Meta: Understanding and solving structural problems is key to becoming a powerful creator in any field. The ability to step back from the content of consciousness and see the bigger structural patterns is a crucial skill. All life experiences are content within the overarching structure of consciousness. Relative Nature of Content and Structure: Content and structure are relative; there are nested orders of the two. Ideology can be seen as a structure, religion as its content, which in turn is a structure for specific types of religion such as Christianity, and so on down to individual practices and beliefs. Mastering Life by Understanding Consciousness: The most important structure to understand is consciousness. Everything is content within consciousness, including ideologies, religions, languages, and physical reality. Mastery over life comes from studying the structures of consciousness and going meta on life’s contents. Immersion in Content and its Consequences: Being hypnotized by the content of success and power prevents individuals from going meta, causing suffering both personally and for others. To change one's life meaningfully, one must become adept at understanding structural issues. Life as Content within Consciousness: Every aspect of life, from religions and ideologies to human relationships and activities, is content within the broader structure of consciousness. Understanding this structure is the key to resolving life's challenges and avoiding the bewilderment of being at the whims of content. Real-world Examples of Content vs Structure: Leo discusses various real-world domains, illustrating the differences and similarities in structures, largely independent of content. Examples include religions, science, liberal and conservative psyches, cult psychology, nationalism, and clan warfare. Liberal and Conservative Structural Differences: Liberals and conservatives not only differ in policy positions (content) but also in cognitive, moral, and spiritual development (structure). Understanding this structural difference can shed light on the deeper dynamics behind political disagreements. The Need to Go Meta to Solve Complex Issues: Addressing content alone, such as in clan warfare or nationalism, cannot resolve the underlying structural issues. Lasting solutions require a meta perspective that understands the shared structure behind seemingly diverse conflicts. Nationalism as Evolved Clan Warfare: Nationalism is an advanced form of clan warfare where millions are involved, exemplifying the escalation from inter-clan disputes to large-scale conflicts between nations driven by a common structure of in-group bias and territorialism. Fighting Evil as a Structural Problem: Leo describes the ubiquitous presence of evil in the world as a consequence of a fundamental structural misunderstanding. People attempt to eradicate evil with actions that are inadvertently evil themselves because they fail to grasp that evil is a perception created by their minds and is not an inherent part of material reality. Perception of Evil and Projection: The perception of evil is revealed to be a projection from the individual's mind, tied to relative perspectives and selfish tendencies. To effectively address evil, one must acknowledge and transcend these projections, achieving a state of higher consciousness and unconditional love. Metaphysical Understanding of Evil: Rather than eliminating evil through punishment or eradication, understanding the metaphysical and structural origins of evil—such as fear, selfishness, and limited ego—leads to more compassionate solutions. To address the root causes of actions deemed evil, one must undergo profound psychological and spiritual growth. Attracting Women in Dating as a Structural Interaction: Through his experiences in pick-up and dating, Leo uncovers that attraction isn't about the specific words (content) but rather the manner of interaction (structure), such as confidence, body language, and mood—elements that dictate the sub-communication to women. Context Sensitivity in Social Dynamics: Leo stresses the importance of understanding contextual cues in social environments, particularly in dating scenarios where subtle communication and non-verbal cues (structural aspects) greatly impact the success of social interactions. Money in Politics Identified as Structural Issue: The influence of money in politics is recognized as a structural flaw, affecting both major political parties as they navigate their survival through resources and incentives, shaping their actions and resistance to campaign finance reform. Conflation between Scandinavian and Venezuelan Socialism: Leo critiques the conservative misconception that conflates the socialism of Scandinavian countries with that of Venezuela, highlighting the lack of structural awareness in these arguments. He explains that the content label of 'socialism' misrepresents the divergent infrastructures, corruption levels, ideological openness, and developmental stages of these nations. Religious Indoctrination Across Different Faiths: Leo points out the structural similarity in how religious schools indoctrinate students. This process of indoctrination is consistent across different religions, focusing on content transmitted within the structural confines of their respective educational institutions. Indoctrination via Educational Structures: All religious and scientific schools, such as Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Buddhist, and technical universities like MIT and Caltech, engage in forms of indoctrination. The degree of indoctrination varies, but structurally they're comparable, as they seek to instill specific paradigms in students without encouraging open inquiry. Self-Bias in Perceptions of Indoctrination: People excuse the indoctrination of their chosen paradigm, whether it be a religion or scientific materialism, due to self-bias. They see other forms of indoctrination as flawed because they differ from their own beliefs, rather than recognizing that all are essentially the same in structure. Repeating Patterns in Relationships: Repeat negative relationship patterns arise due to structural issues within an individual's psyche, such as low self-esteem or depression, rather than the content (partners). Sustainable change requires addressing these deep-rooted structures, not just changing partners. Emotions as Content vs. Structural Mastery: Emotions are content that can govern one's behavior. Mastering emotions involves understanding and observing their structures, allowing individuals to transcend and take control of their emotional experiences. Content Focus and Blindness to Structural Issues: Sam Harris illustrates content focus by critically addressing the content of religious texts like the Quran, while missing the deeper structural problems like low cognitive, moral, and spiritual development that contribute to extremism. Geopolitical Influence Overlooking Structural Factors: Geopolitical factors such as climate, geography, and historical context profoundly influence societies and are overlooked when improper content, like specific Quranic phrases, are blamed for terrorism. Cult Psychology Beyond Specific Ideologies: Cult psychology operates within various beliefs systems and ideologies, not limited to one religion or philosophy. This is a structural issue that encompasses broader ideological problems. Trump's Structural Corruption: Trump supporters focus on the content of his policies without recognizing the structural corruption and moral depravity, which is indicative of a lack of systemic understanding and personal development. Shared Structures Among Diverse Groups: Structurally, the psyche of Trump has more in common with dictators like Kim Jong-un, due to low cognitive development centered around impulsive, narcissistic, and corruption-prone behavior, regardless of the differing content of their ideologies. Structured Mindset of Authoritarian Leaders: Authoritarian leaders, such as Trump and Kim Jong-un, resonate due to similar stage red characteristics in Spiral Dynamics. They share qualities like dominance and authoritarianism, contrary to the surprise of the media. Evangelicals, Nazis, and Islamists - Structural Parallels: Evangelicals may superficially align themselves with Christ but structurally, they share more characteristics with dogmatic and nationalistic groups like Nazis and Islamists than with the meta-structure of Christ's consciousness. Religious Materialism Across Belief Systems: Both scientific materialists and religious individuals are structurally materialistic, pursuing physical benefits or heaven with materialistic attributes. Even within evangelical circles, the prosperity gospel reflects this materialistic mindset. The Structural Desire for Wealth and Materialism: Religious leaders using Christ's name and symbolism to justify materialistic pursuits, such as flying on private jets, are structurally driven by the same materialism they preach against, showcasing a disconnect from Christ's teachings at a structural level. Identifying and Conquering the Structural Essence of Evil: Christ's approach to 'evil' was structural, recognizing that evildoing is a construct of content and that true understanding and transcendence lie in the recognition of love as an overarching, meta-structural concept. Trappings of Content vs Structural Transformation in Spirituality: Truly adopting the spirituality of figures like Christ involves moving beyond content-based dogma to embrace a meta-structural consciousness, which involves surrendering material and ideological attachments. Survival Needs Affect Structural Perceptions: Egotistical survival needs can corrupt individuals into rationalizing materialistic desires with spiritual justifications, highlighting the difficulty of achieving true spiritual transformation at a structural level. Applying Spiral Dynamics to See Deep Structures: Utilizing Spiral Dynamics helps distinguish between content-focused debates and structural understanding. Effective change often requires transcending content details, moving towards recognizing and altering deep-rooted structures. Politics and the Content-Structure Dichotomy: Politicians and their constituents generally focus on content disputes rather than structural changes needed to address issues, leading to dysfunctional attempts at solutions. True resolution requires a shift to a systemic, structural perspective. Metaphysical and Worldview Shifts for Problem Solving: Many societal problems stem from a lack of structural awareness. Addressing political, social, and economic issues effectively necessitates understanding the structural causes embedded in our worldview and metaphysical perceptions. Meta Problems and Root Solutions: The primary challenge in society is the perception and framing of problems. True solutions require deep structural understanding and change, as merely shuffling content fails to address the root existential and metaphysical issues tied to identity, psyche, worldview, and conceptions of reality. Structures of the Mind to Study: Important mental structures worth studying include projection, denial, ideology, biases, paradigms, self-deception, and more. These structures influence how we perceive reality and ourselves, and they're crucial for understanding self-enhancement and self-deception mechanisms. Happiness as a Structural Issue: Happiness cannot be achieved by altering content such as wealth, relationships, or success. Happiness is a structural problem that requires a change in the psyche's structure; external achievements do not lead to sustainable happiness as they don’t address underlying structural issues. Psychedelics and Expanded Consciousness: Psychedelics induce bliss by expanding consciousness, temporarily altering the structure of one's life, allowing a glimpse into a potentially permanent change in structural reality. However, the effects are temporary, and deep work is required to maintain such an elevated state of consciousness. Inescapable Self: The self is the main structure carried everywhere, shaping life experiences significantly. Addressing this internal structure is crucial for genuine transformation, as changing external circumstances without addressing internal structures leads to the same cycle of content-related problems. Understanding Actualized.org's Goals: Actualized.org's goal is not to provide content for memorization but to point towards deeper structures of understanding. True transformation arises from structural changes to the psyche, moving beyond the content consumed from various resources. Investment in Structural Change: For meaningful personal development, one must focus on resources and practices that promote structural change rather than content absorption. Structural change is challenging and requires revisiting resources like Actualized.org for a deeper understanding, not just for content familiarity. Challenges in Structural Change Implementation: Implementing structural changes demands effort and understanding. Engagement with resources should go beyond content and should involve significant structural changes in the psyche to achieve deep personal transformation and happiness. Geminio
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The Many Facets Of Awakening - List of Top 30 Enlightenment Insights https://youtu.be/OgtPGEBGUWw "It lies in the nature of things that the many enter into complex unity." - Alfred North Whitehead Misconception of Enlightenment: Enlightenment is often misunderstood as one single realization, when in fact, it is a complex series of realizeable facets, aspects, and degrees. Value of the Top 30 Enlightenment Insights List: Provides a methodical approach and checklist for spiritual practitioners to gauge their progress and avoid the pitfall of believing they are fully enlightened after experiencing just a few facets. Samadhi and Mystical Experiences: The first facet involves the realization of the Samadhi state or non-dual consciousness where the perceived separation between the observer and the observed dissolves. Realization of No Self: Understanding that the individual self is just an imaginary construct, leading to the awakening that the 'self' a person commonly identifies with, doesn't truly exist. The Universal "I Am" Insight: A vital realization where one shifts from identifying as a mere human being to recognizing oneself as the universal essence of existence, pure 'I am-ness,' or Atman. Omnipresence of Consciousness: The epiphany that one's true self, pure consciousness, is not localized but rather omnipresent, present everywhere and nowhere, simultaneously. Understanding What Consciousness Is: A major shift in perspective is required to understand consciousness as the all-encompassing essence, with nothing existing outside of it. The Literal Meaning of Awakening: Awakening is not a metaphorical concept but a literal experience akin to waking up from a dream, becoming truly aware for the first time. Realization of Non-Duality and Oneness: The insight that all separations are illusions and that everything is intrinsically unified in a single field of consciousness. List as a Systematic Pursuit: The insights serve as a structured progression for seekers to follow, providing a clear understanding of various spiritual milestones. Metaphor of Climbing Mountains: The awakening process is compared to climbing a range of mountains rather than a single mountain, with multiple paths leading to various peaks, symbolizing the diversity of spiritual realizations. Purpose of Sharing the List: Leo, Leo, intends to prevent self-deception among practitioners and to highlight areas of awakening that may be overlooked, thus ensuring a more complete journey towards enlightenment. Realization of Oneness: Awakening to the fact that reality is a singular, unified entity with no separations between objects or beings, highlighting the interconnectedness of everything within a unified field of consciousness. Practical Implications of Oneness: The understanding that perceived separateness is a mental projection and that non-duality means no true separation exists, enabling one to comprehend true non-duality by contrasting it against the notion of duality. On the Nature of Differences: Leo illuminates that perceived differences between objects or entities like a cat and a dog, or a taco and a human, are purely imaginary and only exist if believed or imagined by the mind. Understanding Absolute Truth: One realizes truth is not just a perception or experience, nor a belief or conceptual idea, but an absolute reality identical to consciousness itself, recontextualizing all perceptions and experiences as absolute truth. Realization of the Absolute: Leo explains that only through awakening can one grasp what the absolute truly means, as it exists independently of all conditions, even the annihilation of the universe. Insight Into Absolute Infinity: Understanding that consciousness is infinite, not in numerical or spatial terms but as an absolute concept, allows one to realize the manifestation of everything as a form of absolute infinity. Concept of Absolute Nothingness: Recognizing that all of existence, including consciousness and the self, is fundamentally made of absolute nothing, leading to the profound revelation that nothing has truly happened since nothingness and infinity are identical. Realization of God and the Godhead: Directly encountering and realizing God and its true essence, which goes beyond common misconceptions about the concept. Understanding that "God" refers to an actual reality rather than an imaginary concept. Consciousness as God: One realizes that they are God, the creator of all reality, and that self-denial of this fact is a barrier to full awakening. One must accept their own divine authority and the properties traditionally ascribed to God. Self Equals Other: The realization that all perceived others are actually partitions of one's own consciousness, leading to an understanding that any interaction with others is in fact an interaction with oneself. Realization of Absolute Love: Discovering that consciousness is made of love, which is not an emotion but a substance, and recognizing that all manifestations, even those labeled as evil, are expressions of this absolute love. Truth and Love as Identical: A sub-facet of the realization that absolute love encompasses that truth and love are identical, reinforcing the profound connection between the foundational substance of consciousness and the ultimate reality. Infinite Mind and the Imaginary Nature of Reality: Recognizing that everything experienced—objects, beings, and phenomena—are manifestations of an infinite mind, leading to the insight that reality is fundamentally imaginary. Everything as Imagination: The recognition that all physical reality, personal history, and the very concept of differences—like those between animals or objects—are entirely imaginary creations of the cosmic mind, which is synonymous with one's own mind. Facet of Self-Design: A profound realization that the individual creates not only the universe but also themselves, down to meticulous details such as each hair on their body, as an act of creation by an infinitely intelligent mind. Understanding of Birth as Imaginary: The insight that one's existence did not commence with physical birth; rather, one has always existed. The traditional narrative of birth is understood as a mere imaginary story without genuine occurrence. Realization of Eternity and the Absolute Now: Awakening to the notion that past and future are illusions and that everything, including oneself, exists eternally and absolutely in the present moment. Death as an Illusion and Immortality: Coming to the insight that the concept of death is a fabricated story by the ego, and in reality, one is immortal and exists eternally as all forms and beings outside of time. Realization of Paradise or Heaven: The understanding that heaven is not a location but a state of consciousness where one recognizes their immortality and is free from fear, effectively living in a perpetual state of perfection. Experiential Realization of Bliss and Ecstasy: Experiencing a state of ultimate bliss or ecstasy, which comes from the understanding of immortality and the nature of reality as infinitely good and perfect. Infinite Intelligence: The understanding that the intelligence of consciousness surpasses all physical manifestations and that everything in the universe functions as part of a supremely intelligent and well-oiled machine. Understanding Absolute Goodness: Realizing that everything in the universe, without exception, is inherently good, and what is perceived as bad or evil is merely a projection of personal selfishness. Infinite Will: Recognizing that all of existence is a manifestation of God's will, which, being infinite, materializes instantly as the fabric of reality, including one's own being and actions. Understanding God's Will and Human Will: The concept that human free will is a fragment of God's infinite will, and that what is perceived as the individual's will is actually part of a greater, universal will. Infinite Will and Unlimited Power: The acknowledgement that God, or infinite mind, is boundless, and can create anything without limitations. This realization includes the understanding that perceived physical or logical restrictions are not truly constraints on God's power. Omniscience at the Level of Being: Omniscience is clarified not as knowing all factual information, but as a complete awareness at the level of being. A person can be absolutely omniscient in their being, yet not know trivial details like their neighbor’s lunch. Realization of Divinity, Magic, and Mystery: Enlightenment brings about the realization that consciousness is divine, turning ordinary human perception into an experience of the profound, magical, and mysterious nature of reality. Exploring the Substance of Reality: The quest to understand being and consciousness as the fundamental substance of reality. This pursuit leads to the recognition that consciousness is intrinsically nothing and that differences are illusory. Recognition of the Universe as an Infinite Fractal: The discovery that the universe is a fractal, exhibiting self-similarity at all scales, which one can zoom into or out of infinitely. Recontextualization of Perception and Life: The insight that perception is not merely a human function but an expression of truth or being, alongside the realization that the entire universe is alive in various forms, which transcends traditional scientific queries about the origin of life. Purpose of Existence as Love: The ultimate understanding that the purpose of everything that exists—including complexity, form, and events—is an expression of love, which is the manifestation of oneself as God. Channeling and Communication with God: The facet of being able to communicate with one's higher infinite self or God, gaining direct insights and answers from this source of ultimate consciousness. Healing Through Connection with God's Will: The realization that healing oneself and others is possible by tapping into the infinite mind and aligning with the will of God, which underlies all existence. Collective Consciousness and Conscious Layers: Recognition of consciousness as layered like an onion, with personal consciousness being just one layer within a broader collective consciousness that one can access. Total Extinction of Perception: A facet that has been reported by advanced meditators and Buddhists, wherein through deep meditation, one may experience the disappearance of the entire universe, something Leo has not personally experienced but believes to be possible. Paranormal Phenomena and Interactions: The experience of various paranormal abilities and phenomena, such as clairvoyance, telepathy, past-life regressions, hyper intuition, and the interaction with non-human entities like aliens, which are perceived as projections of one's own mind yet hold relative reality. The Nature of Spiritual Realizations: These realizations can occur individually or in clusters, sequentially or simultaneously, with varying depths of insight. They create a complex matrix of spiritual understanding, which reveals the intricate nature of enlightenment and the diverse paths one can take in their spiritual journey. Complexity of Spiritual Work: A recognition of the multifaceted and layered nature of spiritual insights, reflecting the vast array of awakenings and depths of understanding that can be attained, illustrating the inherent complexity and breadth of spiritual work. Variety of Spiritual Facets: Leo describes spiritual awakening as a complex process with numerous facets, each capable of being a profound realization that can challenge and reshape one's understanding of reality. Assembling Insight Like a Puzzle: The process of awakening involves intermittent realizations, sometimes separated by long periods. Individuals must stitch together these insights over time, likened to assembling a jigsaw puzzle where each piece contributes to the perception of the whole picture. Integration of Spiritual Insights: Leo emphasizes the importance of integrating various insights and matching them up in order to form a coherent understanding of the larger truth, similar to recognizing different parts that compose the entire image of an animal in a jigsaw puzzle. The Shocking Nature of Awakening: Realizations such as identifying oneself as God can be destabilizing, leading to self-doubt or feelings of insanity due to the profound nature of the insight and the contradiction it presents to societal norms. Risk of Distortion and Misinterpretation: There is a danger in misinterpreting insights, potentially leading to a distorted view of reality that reflects one's own ego and shadow rather than objective truth. Navigating Self-Doubt and External Influence: Leo acknowledges the challenges of overcoming self-doubt and societal pressure, highlighting the value of his list as a confirmation for those who may feel alone in their realizations. Diversity Among Spiritual Teachers and Traditions: He explains that different spiritual traditions and teachers may prioritize certain aspects of awakening over others, which can result in a skewed focus and incomplete understanding of spirituality. Awareness of Teacher Limitations: Leo warns of the limitations inherent in spiritual teachings, as teachers may not recognize or integrate all facets of awakening, potentially due to their adherence to narrow or dogmatic paths. Potential Lopsidedness in Awakening: The journey to spiritual awakening can be partial, with individuals excelling in certain aspects while lacking in others. This can lead to imbalanced teachings and experiences. Critical Evaluation of Teachings: He urges not to assume full enlightenment from any one guru or teaching, as they might not address all facets or may dismiss aspects unknown to them as irrelevant. Role of Psychedelics: Psychedelics are presented as tools that can help illuminate various facets of awakening from different angles, due to their capacity to alter states of consciousness and highlight different aspects. Influence of Intentions on the Awakening Process: Leo points out how one's genuine curiosity and intentions can guide which facet of awakening is experienced next, highlighting the significance of quality questioning and self-inquiry in this journey. Existential Questions and Spiritual Facets: Minor existential questions, such as whether to get married or have children, can be explored alongside major spiritual facets. The pursuit of understanding these facets can lead to insights that inform personal decisions. Psychedelics as a Tool for Awakening: Leo sees psychedelics as an efficient way to access and understand various facets of awakening. They allow targeting of specific facets and deliver a panoramic big-picture view of consciousness, God, and reality. Psychedelics vs. Traditional Approaches: While psychedelics offer a broad range of spiritual experiences, traditional methods like yoga or meditation can also lead to awakening but may have limitations based on the techniques used. Methodology and Understanding Consciousness: The ultimate goal should be understanding consciousness itself; the specific methodology, whether psychedelics, yoga or meditation, should be secondary to this pursuit. Teachers' Perspectives on Spiritual Facets: Different spiritual teachers can offer varying perspectives on awakening, leading to apparent contradictions. This could be due to a difference in terminology, depth of understanding, or the range of facets realized. Taking Responsibility and Questioning Gurus: Followers should take responsibility for their spiritual journeys and not assume all teachers are equally enlightened or have comprehended every potential facet of awakening. Disparate Teachings and Spiritual Realization: The diversity of spiritual teachings reflects that not all paths or techniques are equally effective for realizing all facets of awakening. It's wise to compare teachings to understand the range and depth of different spiritual insights. Danger of Partial Realizations: A partial awakening might miss crucial aspects like unconditional love or the notion of God, potentially leading to distortions in understanding and teaching. One Truth, Many Facets: The oneness of truth and the manyness of reality are not contradictory; they are different perspectives that ultimately unite into a singular absolute oneness, akin to the many facets of a jewel representing one entity. Total Number of Facets: It's uncertain how many facets there are, as this number can vary based on differentiation criteria. However, at least two dozen major facets are deemed critical for a comprehensive awakening. Beyond Spiritual Realizations: Realizing spiritual facets is only part of the journey; other areas such as emotional mastery, shadow work, personal development, and relationship skills still require attention and work. Misconceptions about enlightenment: Knowing the facets of awakening does not equate to overcoming all personal issues, such as bad habits, addictions, or limiting and fallacious beliefs. Incomplete spiritual development: Understanding various facets of spirituality doesn't automatically result in cognitive, moral, interpersonal, or political maturity, nor does it guarantee career or technical skill development. Challenges of embodying insights: Realizing profound spiritual insights, like recognizing oneself as God or seeing beyond the concept of evil, doesn't ensure their permanent embodiment in daily life. Personal struggles with enlightenment concepts: Leo admits to his own difficulties in fully embodying insights such as the illusory nature of death and consistently manifesting love, especially when faced with challenging interactions. Endless minor insights: Beyond major spiritual realizations, there are countless 'minor' insights regarding topics like science, evolution, art, relationships, and leadership which are valuable for advancing and evolving society. Value of questioning reality: Pursuing understanding of both major and minor questions about reality is important and should not be dismissed as trivial. Nonstop depth of awakening: Being cautious not to prematurely stop one's pursuit of awakening, as it is often deeper and richer than imagined, is essential. Deep understanding of reality: The true measure of spiritual work is the depth of one's consciousness and understanding of reality, which influences how well insights are embodied. Encouragement for personal validation: Validation of spiritual teachings should come through personal experience, urging viewers to test insights for themselves and not take Leo's word as absolute truth. Future uncertainty: Leo reflects on possible future directions of his work, including deepening existential work, becoming a monk, or leaving behind his current role, emphasizing the evolving nature of his spiritual journey and teachings. Furnunculus
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Driving a vehicle and taking care of it leaves me with a profound sense of bliss. Sometimes I just drive in my dreams at night. There's absolutely nothing that compares to it for me ❤️ Building a fire. Taking a photo. When a cat crosses my path and meows at me to say hi.
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Ishanga replied to Theplay's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agreed, using the word "God" is a misnomor as it can imply many things with various definitions, and to imply that "I am God" is egoic imo, you can have an immense sense/experience of Oneness & Completeness, that is what is happening, and in that You feel great Bliss and Ecstasy, nothing to do with God/s, just an experience of our Human Potential and the basis of our existence here on this dual physical planet and plane... -
@Ryan M There are many ways to trip. You can watch movies, go dancing, hang with friends, etc. But I would recommend the Terrance McKenna model. Just lay on your bed in the dark for 6 hours. Maybe use an eye mask and put in ear buds and listen to music or guided meditations. Focus on "set and setting" or google "set and setting." Some people want to party and socialize. Some people want to have a spiritual journey. But mushrooms are not for everyone. There can be OCD, repetitive movements, thought loops, etc. There can be anxiety or nausea. Reality can break and you can go into a mental hospital for 2 months. It could take 12 months to get back full control of your mind and body. It can be a nightmare or the other side of that coin which is euphoria, bliss, and an awakening to the universe. @Cosmic-Resplendence Sorry. No advice here. I struggle with the same issues. Sometimes I get visuals but they are boring or grotesque and a waste of a trip. I just cannot force the really cool visuals you speak of. I often get very Hindu type visuals which are awesome but yet I find them a little too menacing. They want to hypnotize me or seduce me it feels like. Maybe just be healthy and focus on "set and setting" and hope for the best.
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What Is Perception - The Metaphysics Of Perception https://youtu.be/8Jbvik4IA3o "If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite." - William Blake Perception defined: Perception, or the visual field, constitutes a sensory bubble that encases us as we interact with reality, indicating a subject-object duality. Leo clarifies that perception is not a biological or neurological process, but something very tricky and misunderstood, challenging the conventional model many hold. Perception without a subject: Leo encourages the audience to imagine perception without a subject, such as an experience hanging in the vacuum of space. This raw data of perception would stay the same, but its interpretation changes, leading to a universal rather than personal or biological experience. Conventional model of reality: Modern belief systems consider reality as an objective, external world populated by sentient and non-sentient objects, where humans perceive this world through their brains, misunderstanding the true nature of perception. Actual workings of reality: Leo claims that a universal field of consciousness is the only thing that exists, and humans are born as ideas rather than physical objects. Perception is a construction of the ego, misinterpreted as an external, independent world. Illusions created by the ego: The entire concept of an external world, as well as being born into the world as a sentient creature with a perceptual field produced by the brain, is an illusion created by the ego according to Leo's revelations during his meditation retreat. Subjectivity of Perception: Leo challenges the idea of perception being subjective to a biological organism, suggesting that perception, or the sensory bubble, is ubiquitous in the universe and not tied to individual consciousness. Illusion of Perception: Leo asserts that perception is an illusion, and by removing the ego's influence, one can revert to a state of pure being or consciousness, which is the only true reality. Radical recontextualization of perception: Leo asks the viewers to radically reinterpret perception not as an individual experience tied to organisms, but as a universal phenomenon without a perceiver. This shift collapses the assumed duality between perceiving self and perceived objects. Enlightenment through the collapse of dualities: Enlightenment is described as recognizing one's inseparable connection with the entirety of existence, eliminating illusions of separation fostered by the ego and the mind's interpretative mechanisms. Subject-Object Duality Collapse: The mind-body problem, according to Leo, is solved by identifying not as part of the universe but as the universe itself. This collapses the duality of subject and object within the realm of perception. True Nature of Reality: The perceived reality is an illusion, and the true nature of reality lies in recognizing oneself as an idea within the universal field of consciousness, challenging mainstream scientific understanding. Leap to Universal Selfhood: The journey towards realizing oneself as the universal consciousness is challenging and requires overcoming the ego, but it promises profound joy and a sense of oneness with everything. Personal Acknowledgment: Leo acknowledges that his insights are not new; they're ancient wisdom repackaged for a modern audience. His goal with Actualized.org is to make profound truths accessible, promising life transformation through proper understanding and focused practice. Misconception of Material Existence: Leo delineates the common misbelief that we are physical objects; he clarifies that the perception of being physical is just an idea, and in reality, we are the conceptualization of ourselves as physical entities. Ego’s Distortion of the Universal Field: Leo discusses how the ego is born from an idea that emerged within the universal field of consciousness, falsely claiming ownership of it, which results in the conception of a personal life and the illusion of perceiving an external world. Perception as a Construct: The individual sense of perception is compared to a child claiming a toy as "mine," Leo argues that what we perceive as our personal bubble of experience is merely a piece of the whole field of consciousness co-opted by ego rather than a true possession. Reality as a Negative Sculpture: Presenting existence as a negative sculpture, Leo posits that our sense of self is a space carved out from the universal field of consciousness, suggesting that we are not independent objects but rather illusions of being. Image 1 Recontextualization of Reality Interpretation: Leo emphasizes the radical recontextualization required for a true understanding of reality, proposing that perceptions are not experiences limited to a biological creature, but rather, they exist freely in the space of the universe. Collapsing Subject-Object Duality: The concept of non-duality is introduced where boundaries between subject and object dissolve, challenging the existence of an external or internal world, leading to a realization that the external world was misidentified as internal. Interpretation as a Transformative Element: Leo explains how a revolutionary change in interpretation can render the subjective experience obsolete, leaving a world of 'being'—an undistorted experience of the universe. Distinction between Being and Perception: The key takeaway that Leo wants viewers to understand is that 'being' is essentially 'perception minus the ego', and what is conventionally perceived as individual experience is a mistaken appropriation of universal 'being' by the ego. Perceptions and Experiences as Illusions: Leo states that perceptions and experiences are illusions created by the ego's misinterpretation of 'being'. By undoing the ego's notion of ownership, perceptions can revert to a pure state of 'being', devoid of the subjective self. Sponge analogy for understanding existence: Leo uses a sponge filled with bubbles as a metaphor for the universe or the unified field of consciousness. Each bubble represents an individual's perception, and he suggests that we believe there is an objective reality beyond our personal bubble, but in actuality, there is only the bubble itself, floating in a vacuum. Being versus perception: He explains 'being' as something that simply exists without observation, interpretation, or experience. Being is not confined by time and space, which only exist within individual bubbles of perception. Infinite nature of reality: The sponge analogy extends beyond three dimensions, suggesting an infinite, boundless state of existence. This infinite sponge is meant to represent divine or infinite consciousness. Illusion of individuality: The bubbles within the sponge don't have an independent existence; they are illusory and share the same space. Leo states that enlightenment involves realizing you are not just one of the bubbles but the entire sponge itself. The sponge as God consciousness: Leo equates full realization of being the entire, infinite sponge with achieving God consciousness. This process takes extensive work through meditation, contemplation, and possibly psychedelics. Shifting identification from the individual to the universal: Leo encourages experiencing the shift from identifying as an individual bubble to recognizing oneself as the whole sponge, a shift that can lead to enlightenment. Depersonalizing experience: Viewers are urged to depersonalize their experience, to see their perceptions as not their own life, but as part of the "external world." The visual field, normally thought to be a part of biological life, is the fabric of the universe itself. Subjective qualities as part of the universe: Leo states that the qualities we experience subjectively, such as colors and emotions, are not unique to living organisms or a brain but exist inherently within the universe. Recontextualizing raw experience: Understanding absolute being, according to Leo, involves seeing the universe not as something happening to you but rather as happening independently of you—an event in itself, unnamed and unclaimed by any ego. Absolute truth stripped of identity: Leo suggests the true nature of reality is 'Absolute Being' that we can perceive once we strip away the ego or the self, revealing that 'you' were never actually there, and what remains is pure being or truth. Misinterpretation of Reality due to Survival and Fear: The drive for survival and fear of death cause individuals to misinterpret reality, striving to maintain their sense of self. Engaging deeply with existential questions can trigger emotional and psychological reactions such as panic attacks, depression, and anger, as the mind fights to preserve the illusion of individual existence. Conceptual vs. Physical Death: Enlightenment involves the conceptual death of the self, which is understood as an idea rather than a physical being. What we believe to be physical death is another concept, and the dissolution of the self is a key aspect of spiritual awakening. Questioning Reality and the Fear of Insanity: Deep metaphysical inquiry may lead to fears of insanity and death as entrenched beliefs about reality are challenged. This fear serves to protect the ego and the constructed personal identity from disintegrating. Mechanics of Life's Illusions: Most negative emotions serve to deepen the illusion of being a separate bubble in the sponge of reality. Understanding and accepting the mechanics of life's illusions can fundamentally transform one's relationships with existence. Self-Awareness of the Universe: The universe is self-aware without a separate perceiving entity, challenging the assumption that awareness is an attribute only of living creatures. The concept of living and sentient beings is a fiction and awareness itself is an irreducible, mystical element of the universe. Awareness as Nothingness: Awareness is not a tangible thing or a product of the brain. It is akin to nothingness—a void in which being is suspended. Describing awareness often leads to inaccuracies, as it is a concept impossible to fully grasp with language. Brain as Perception and Its Influence: The brain is not the fundamental origin of perception but is itself perceived. Adjustments to the brain can have widespread effects on perceptions, but this should not be mistaken for the brain’s ability to produce awareness. Universe as Raw Truth without Awareness: An alternate universe scenario is proposed where there is no awareness or sentient creatures, just raw truth and data. This analogy is used to explain that our current universe consists of the same raw truth perceived by no one. Realization of Being as the Ultimate Truth: Leo stresses that all perceptions are forms of being. By reinterpreting these through practices like meditation, one can come to understand the nature of being or 'Absolute Truth' without the construct of sentient beings. Illusion of sentient creatures: Leo clarifies that what we consider as sentient creatures are mere illusions, like negative sculptures in a unified field of consciousness, challenging the traditional idea of individual sentient entities. Knowing the nature of perception: Leo addresses skepticism about his insights on perception, stating this profound understanding isn't mere belief or conjecture but can be realized through focused meditation, consistent practice, and proper interpretation of present-moment experiences. Actualized.org's mission: The platform aims to modernize and share ancient wisdom known for millennia, interpreting it in a way that resonates with contemporary audiences, particularly the youth, and integrating various aspects of truth often overlooked in mainstream culture. Emotional difficulty in transformative work: Realizing the interconnectedness of one's entire emotional system, fears, and life challenges with the inquiry of perception requires significant emotional labor and has a transformative impact on one's life. Joy and struggle of realization: Although the realization of universal interconnectedness leads to profound joy and bliss, reaching this understanding involves facing and overcoming deep fears and neuroses, which can be a challenging ordeal. Commitment to transformation: Leo inspires viewers to commit to the process of self-inquiry, promising that the resulting expanded consciousness and joy are worthwhile, despite being challenging to articulate. Comprehensive catalogue of life's deep questions: Leo envisions actualized.org as a resource for in-depth exploration of fundamental questions about consciousness, happiness, suffering, and existence, aiming to fulfill the void in available information on such topics. Balance between metaphysical and practical content: While acknowledging that current focus on metaphysical topics might seem impractical to some, Leo assures that practical advice on personal development, confidence, social skills, and more will be addressed in future content. Impedimenta
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Girzo replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Squeekytoy Duality has nothing to base itself in. Constant torment is as good starting out point for the middle of a spectrum as constant bliss. There's no constant middle frankly. You could fall deeper and deeper into despair until you snap back, or you don't and you keep falling. Elaborate on your philosophical argument if you disagree, please. -
strika replied to shiznitno1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't literally expect a painless life with 24/7 bliss, of course there will be pain and i'm fine with that, but i do expect there to basically be daily bliss and even in those moments of pain at least behind all that pain i expect there to be that constant bliss. And the reason why i'm expecting this is because i had moments of life being that way whenever i was doing pranic living + not wasting sexual energy, it's just that i would fall of track. Btw i just noticed you're Brandon Rohe from youtube, i follow your channel, great videos bro -
Anonman90 replied to Tech36363's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There's no such a thing as nothingness. It's no-thingness as there wouldn't be any objects. It's pure awareness, which is bliss All saints and gurus have talked about it. Even Buddha said Nirvana isn't nihilism. Overall, it's impossible to put it into words, it's something that must be experienced. In Hinduism it's called Turya (Turiya) Your path will begin when you desire knowledge from within, not without, on YouTube or actualized.org -
Ishanga replied to Federico del pueblo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You only want relationships to enhance Your inner experience and wellbeing. In survival mode its good to be in a tribe of sorts, the odds of living another day are better, but here and now where survival is not the top priority in ppl's lives, in the west anyways, we use relationships and extract from others due to Lack felt within, this is not so good, its much better to establish Your Being, then go out and share it with others, in this context its all about Sharing, not extracting, so it depends on what level of Existence we are talking about, if life is decent, things are provided for basic living, then that is when we go within to our Beingness, establish Peace or Bliss as our base experience then go out and have relationships, it works much better this way imo:) -
Ishanga replied to ChrisZoZo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The word Soul is very misconstrued word in today's culture, like everything nowadays everyone is making up their own definitions of words and meanings and creating individualistic ideologies that only separate them from others and everything, a sign that the intellect (dissecting tool that separates things for us to understand) is in charge. Better to use a word like Life, Source, Grand Intelligence, Brahman, Divine..Basically Soul is the Life you have capatured within You, we are embodied beings, living in a dual material world, but have the ability to be One with everything as an Experience and everyday foundational one. Wrapped around the Soul/Life, are Shealths, the Food, Mental, Energy, Etheric and Bliss shealths, what keeps it all together is Your Karmic Substance, its like Glue, when You die Physically, what travels to the next body is the Energy, Etheric and Bliss body which encapsulate the soul/life, which is why You are born with certain karmas/tendencies to work out in this life time, but we are born with Free Will or the possibility/potential of it and much more, we can be Conscious beings and not be bound by our physicality, or karmic substance, if You get this far (Enlightenment) then You may lose Your individuality and go back to Oneness realm and Brahman or Shiva nature (Shiva means "that which is not") -
Quantum Mechanics Debunks Materialism - Part 2 https://youtu.be/1st_ulCPeR4 "A physicist is just an atom's way of looking at itself." Neils Bohr "God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension." - Freeman Dyson Founding fathers of quantum mechanics as mystics and idealists: The early quantum mechanics pioneers like Niels Bohr, Werner Heisenberg, Erwin Schrödinger, Max Planck, and others were sympathetic to mysticism and anti-realism. Their work in the early 20th century challenged the notion of a clockwork, materialist universe. The importance of epistemology in quantum mechanics: Quantum mechanics raises profound questions about the nature of knowledge (epistemology), particularly issues related to the subject-object problem and the grounding of knowledge. Niels Bohr on the abstract nature of particles: Bohr discussed particles as abstractions, with their properties only definable through interactions with other systems, emphasizing the holistic nature of reality. Niels Bohr on the limitations of language and physics: Bohr mentioned the limitations of language to fully describe reality. He characterized physics as a method of ordering human experience, challenging the traditional view of it as a study of an independent reality. Objectivity versus subjectivity in physics: Bohr highlighted shifts in our understanding of objectivity and subjectivity, influenced by the theory of relativity and quantum mechanics, where the traditional objective world of science is reinterpreted as a blend of objective and subjective components. Religious and spiritual content in physics: Bohr argued that religious content can't be spoken of in objectifying language due to its deeply subjective nature and that different religious forms may offer complementary insights into reality. Werner Heisenberg on the unity and complementarity of reality: Heisenberg criticized the separation of reality into parts and articulated the observer's effect on nature, stating what's observed isn't nature itself but nature exposed to our methods of questioning. Max Planck on consciousness and matter: Planck viewed consciousness as fundamental, with matter being derivative from consciousness. He highlighted the importance of consciousness as a basis for all discussion of reality. Quantum mechanics' challenge to materialism and rationalism: Gura claims that quantum mechanics reveals the limitations of rationality and traditional materialism, illustrating the profound interconnectedness of observer and observed. Emphasis on open-mindedness in scientific interpretation and exploration: Gura urges contemplation and intellectual openness in embracing various interpretations of reality, beyond the established material and rational perspectives. Max Planck on the ultimate mystery of nature: Planck believed that since we are part of nature, we cannot solve its ultimate mystery. He recognized a paradox in epistemology—the study of knowledge—and its relationship with metaphysics and physics. Science and generational resistance: Max Planck argued that scientific truth prevails not by convincing opponents but when opponents pass away and a new, more receptive generation grow up. This implies that current materialistic views might persist until a new generation familiar with non-duality and mysticism emerges. Materialism as modern scientific dogma: Leo characterizes the current scientific establishment as akin to religious fundamentalism with its strict adherence to materialistic dogma and suppression of mystical and non-dualistic perspectives. Limits of truth quantization: Leo criticizes the view that all truth must be quantifiable and communicable. He points out that much of the truth extends beyond the scope of what can be captured mathematically, leaving blind spots in rational understanding. Interpretation and assumptions in science: Quantum mechanics reveals that all facts are subject to interpretation and that scientific observations are inseparable from perspective. Thus, accessing the absolute nature of reality transcends the capacity of reasoning, language, and mathematics. Heisenberg's alignment with Hindu and Vedantic philosophy: Werner Heisenberg compared Nirvana to a state of pure bliss and knowledge beyond individual ego, and discussed resolving karma through a continuum of existence, views that reflect non-duality and transcend materialist conceptions of individuality. Erwin Schrodinger's non-dualistic perspective: Schrodinger melds the principles of quantum mechanics with non-duality, emphasizing the unity of the now, the illusion of multiplicity, and the limits of logical thinking in comprehending the absolute nature of reality. Albert Einstein on cosmic religious feeling: Einstein described a profound, non-anthropomorphic, cosmic religious feeling that recognizes the unity of existence and the significance of super personal values beyond the need for rational foundation—an experience that motivates scientific inquiry. Freeman Dyson on reason as a passion: Dyson warned against the dangerous overvaluation of reason. He highlighted the importance of realizing our insignificance within the universe and cautioned against the arrogance associated with an exaggerated sense of rationality. Freeman Dyson's Views on Mystery and Materialism: Dyson contends that both a butterfly and superstring are mysterious and absorbing interests for scientists. He criticizes the dogmatism of both religious creationists and scientific materialists, noting that they bring disrepute to their respective domains by being insensitive and arrogant. Dyson also expresses disappointment at the idea of a finite set of equations describing all of physical reality, as he believes reality is infinite. John Archibald Wheeler's Extended Physics Views: Wheeler, who coined the term "black hole," believes that physical things ultimately originate from information-theoretic sources, making reality participatory. He also reflects on existence as the ultimate question, which he posits cannot be answered from materialist or rationalist perspectives but only through a non-dual approach. David Bohm's Quantum Interconnectedness and Non-Duality: Bohm reversed the conventional notion of independent elementary particles being the fundamental reality. He suggested that everything in the universe is interconnected, and both consciousness and matter are deeply interwoven within this whole. Bohm promotes a holistic perspective and believes that fragmentation is an erroneous perception which hides the true continuous nature of existence. David Bohm on Fragmentation and Reality Projection: Bohm stresses the problem with fragmenting reality and the need to cease projecting a mental grid onto the world. Removing this grid helps erase the concept of self and others, shifting from duality to non-duality and unifying the observer with the observed. Bohm's Thoughts on the Observer and Observed Relationship: Bohm elaborates on quantum interconnectedness where the observer and the observed are inseparable parts of a unified reality. He also challenges the ability to analyze the universe, proposing that it is a single undivided whole that transcends particles and fields. Sir Arthur Eddington's Notion of Reality: Eddington views physical reality as fundamentally constituted by "mind stuff," noting that the physical world and its phenomena are symbols connected interdependently by mathematical equations. He proposes that what is conventionally perceived as physical is actually part of a mental construct. Eddington on Mind Stuff and Material Reality: Eddington emphasizes that everything, including the concept of physical matter, is essentially "mind stuff." He implies that science is the study of patterns in this "mind stuff," thus redefining the essence of reality as inherently non-material. Transcending Physicalism: Both Freeman Dyson and John Archibald Wheeler depict a reality where physical laws are superseded by an infinite and participatory universe. David Bohm and Sir Arthur Eddington further reinforce this by explaining that reality is non-dual and that physical laws, matter, and material concepts are projections of a higher-dimensional "mind stuff." These ideas suggest that our perception of reality is an illusion, and true enlightenment lies in understanding the intangible and interconnected nature of existence. Nature of Reality and Illusion: Eddington proposes that reality as we perceive it is not concrete, but rather a product of the mind's symbolic representation. What we consider to be substantial matter is actually an elusive concept escaping capture at each scientific advance. Limits of Physics and Symbols: Physics, according to Eddington, reaches only a symbolic representation of reality, unable to penetrate the true nature of phenomena; the discipline focuses on the behavior of symbols, not the essence of what is symbolized. Spiritual Nature of Reality: Eddington asserts the intrinsic nature of all reality is spiritual rather than material or dualistic. Scientific methods leave room for the reality of spirit and consciousness, proposing different avenues of knowledge are needed to comprehend this reality. Quantum Mechanics as a Pointer to Infinity: Leo Gura illustrates that quantum mechanics acts as a pointer to a transcendental, infinite reality that cannot be fully encapsulated by symbols and equations; it suggests an underlying unity that science alone cannot reveal. Richard Feynman on the Limits of Rationality: Feynman recognizes the paradoxes inherent in understanding reality, expressing the limitations of scientific theories as representations, and highlighting that truth can be known beyond what can be proven. Critique of Modern Science and Academia: Leo criticizes the disconnection that arises from the abstraction in modern science and academia, where the sophistication in methods leads to a greater disconnect from being and reality. Philosophical Reflection on Science and Religion: Leo challenges the false dichotomy between science and religion, urging recognition of a higher, transcendent truth beyond intellectual positions or the clinging to content. Escape from Conceptual Matrix: Leo suggests the ultimate aim is to escape the entrapments of the mind and experience the raw state of being, which is a non-dualistic unity with reality. Objections Addressed: Gura responds to accusations of cherry-picking evidence to support his views by inviting critics to research deeply and confirming his selection represents the essence of the quantum mechanics pioneers' thoughts. Reality Beyond Intellectual Positions: Leo highlights the necessity of letting go of intellectual positions and ego to access the transcendent truth that quantum mechanics and mysticism point towards. Influence of Background on Perspectives: Leo's personal journey from Islam through materialism and atheism highlights how cultural and intellectual environments shape beliefs about reality and the metaphysical. Experience of Reality and Emotion in Materialism: Materialists struggle to reconcile rational understanding with emotional experiences due to rigid boundaries imposed by their worldview. David Bohm as a Cautionary Tale: Despite David Bohm's intellectual grasp of quantum mechanics, his inability to embody these ideas led to emotional suffering; highlighting the difference between knowing and being. Critique of "God of the Gaps": Leo refutes the accusation that quantum mechanics is being used as a "God of the gaps" argument, stating that God represents the void which encompasses all existence. Materialism Critique: Leo asserts that materialism became obsolete with the advent of quantum mechanics in the 1920s, yet it continues to influence thinking, likening it to a "zombie mind virus." Irreducibly Mystical Nature of Reality: Reality is described as fundamentally mystical, with being and knowing becoming one in the state of non-duality. Transformation through Choosing Being over Knowing: Leo advocates for prioritizing being over knowing to fundamentally change one's relationship with life and emotions. Debunking Outdated Scientific Models: Popular scientific models, such as the clockwork universe, are dismissed as outdated narratives no longer reflective of reality's true nature. Non-Duality Independence from Scientific Models: Non-duality is presented as independent of scientific theory or evidence and as an experiential understanding of reality's infinite nature. Expansion of Scientific Understanding: Science should evolve to include first-person experiences, represented by phenomenology, to become a more comprehensive exploration of reality. Essence of Science: True science is characterized by radical open-mindedness and the investigation of the nature of everything. It is not limited to symbolizing with mathematical formulas but includes various methods such as rationality, intuition, or even unconventional means. Science seeks to understand the entirety of reality and must be open to it all. Infinity and Existence: The concept of infinity is central to Leo's explanation of existence. Infinity must exist because it includes the possibility of its own non-existence. Thus, nothing and everything exist simultaneously, embodying the nature of infinity. Broadening Science: Science must evolve by incorporating first-person experiences and varying methods. Non-dual practices like Yoga, meditation, self-inquiry, and phenomenology are deemed scientific too. Science’s methods must adapt just as the concept of science has evolved through history. Corruption of Truth: Leo argues that corruption in religion, government, science, and individual actions all stem from the ego's nature to distort truth. He warns against using his statements to justify personal beliefs and emphasizes deep self-reflection instead. Non-dualism as Future Knowledge: Non-duality is predicted to become common knowledge in the distant future, going beyond the self-serving tendencies of both the individual ego and institutional dogmas that have corrupted this truth for millennia. Pitfalls of Materialism: Leo laments how society prioritizes practical concerns over truth, causing suffering and an endless pursuit without fulfillment. He calls materialism a trap that prevents discovering the infinity encompassed by non-dual understanding. Advice for Scientists: Those pursuing scientific careers are urged to gain direct non-dual experience to avoid becoming dogmatic materialists. Being a mystic is seen as an essential complement to being an effective scientist—or any profound professional role. Question Cultural Metaphysics: Leo encourages questioning the blind acceptance of cultural knowledge and metaphysics for truth alignment and personal growth. He challenges listeners to consider the alignment of their feelings of satisfaction or suffering with the nature of reality. Science Evolution and Purification: A call for science to be continually questioned and purified from dogmas to remain aligned with the pursuit of truth. Science is envisioned to become more visionary and creative, rather than limited by bureaucracy and dogma. Final Reflection on Science and Niels Bohr: In concluding, Leo expresses his passion for a progressive science and his criticism stems from wishing to see science reach its true potential. A final quote from Niels Bohr was intended to be shared, illustrating Leo's admiration for one of quantum mechanics' most influential figures. Fidelius Charm
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BipolarGrowth replied to shiznitno1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi @strika When I first saw this reply, I felt that you were likely under some false impressions. I usually don’t like to start back and forth discussions on here as they often fail to really help anyone or bring people to better understanding. I saw this video today and immediately thought of you and what you said. By your standard that you have set, not even the Buddha meets your expectations. Now, it is possible of course that you’re correct in all of this, but I must say after a decade of going after spiritual development to a pretty hardcore degree, it seems more probable that you are picking up incorrect expectations from people who are either blatantly inflating their own level of realization or are lying to both themselves and any who follow them. I’ve experienced plenty of blissed-out states of consciousness while entirely sober, and it is my opinion that this is not the highest goal for a sincere individual on the spiritual path. The Buddha felt pain and Christ even for a time felt forsaken by God while on the cross. Having these expectations might harm yourself as well. Eventually, it is probable that you yourself will not be in a 24/7 state of immense bliss, and at that time, it might be hard to be compassionate even to yourself at some levels. I wrote this to try to help you. If this was not of benefit to you, please feel no need to reply as I am not interested in unproductive debate. I wish you all the best in your spiritual practice ❤️ -
Anonman90 replied to Anonman90's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
100% Suffering is grace, and inevitable. What suffers is the Ego. When it starts to realize reality is not what it thought to be When its attachments are being stripped away The Ego suffers! Oh nooo, my money is gone!! Oh noo, my wife cheated on me!!! Oh no, my lovely mother died!! Ego is attached to impermanent things, it is stuck finding temporarily dopamine rushes. Its true origin is bliss and love but ignorance wouldn't allow it to shine Soul must go through hell before it realizes God. And this hell is the hell its created for itself. It's not a punishment or anything by anything else. This is how it all works. When soul wakes up, it'll realize how perfect and what a beautiful intelligent system the whole thing is. -
Breakingthewall replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Let's see, the problem is that if you spend your life in a limited state, you limit yourself more and more, since the configuration of the human mind is like that. This increasing limitation translates into unhappiness, a mental state that point to hell. The only way out of this is to access unlimited states on a regular basis, since they reset your hard drive and allow you to see clearly, access a vital state of bliss, all of that. Psychonauts sometimes seek knowledge and understanding in these states, which for me is a mistake since knowledge is limited by definition, and seeking the limited in the unlimited is madness. The unlimited state is absolute freedom, your true nature and what you are seeking, and there is no more. any more is less. -
Inliytened1 replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Powerful - it gave me the bliss of enlightenment -
Brrrrr. Right on. Luckily ignorance is bliss.
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Anonman90 replied to Anonman90's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The values of a saint are your own true values, but due to ignorance you have forgotten and have gotten lost in the dream. The saint is pure awareness that's perfect bliss manifested in human form, it's your true nature this perfect bliss. You will eventually have those values which are never gone, but hidden under ego. But all of it starts when the soul is exhausted being dreaming for too long, it seeks out. -
Ishanga replied to StarStruck's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The Spiritual path is all about this but its not about a Conversation, its about the Realization of what we are, so Realization is the important part. Once You touch Your Bliss Body, as a part of the 5 shealth (Earth, Mental, Energetic, Etheric, Bliss Bodies), then Your intouch with a part of that aspect, they call it Bliss body because it is non physical aspect, and You as an embodied individual living on a dual material planet, and being a Human Being, You can make this the fondation of Your Experience by identifying with, because that is You...So conversation is limited and low level, Experiencially Bliss is the language of God or Creation/Creator... -
The individual self by its very nature, wishes for bliss. Because this bliss is present within Himself, that is why He can ask for it. Otherwise He would not. He cannot do without asking for it. If noticed, the craving for bliss and peace will be seen in all living beings. Even lowly creations like insects and spiders do not wish to go near heat. They desire peace, security and rest. Creatures suffering in the heat of the sun, long for shade and cold water. Likewise, being afflicted by the triple miseries, man also seeks for God, the abode of peace and the mine of bliss.
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Living to Your Highest Potential, not being a part of the problem (suffering from depression, anxiety, anger, past experiences, etc) but a part of the Solution, creative energy, compassionate, internally at Peace or at Bliss, giving not extracting from anything, making the society a more Inclusive place to be...
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Ishanga replied to Ishanga's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Over the years of personal practice and researching Spiritual systems and theories, like we all do, we personalize it and come up with our own way of describing it. On a scale of 0-10, 0 is Peacefulness, all experiences are within a range of Intensity, Peace is a certain Intensity of Pleasantness, its calm, cool, collected, silent in basic nature, but it is the start of the ladder. Above this is Happiness, which I would say is around 4 on the scale, Happiness is more about external stimuli, looking at a beautiful sunrise or sunset, flower, woman/man, eating pleasant food for You, laughing at a joke, etc, sometimes You wake up happy because of a nice dream or just the way Your body/mind are that morning, but then it can go away... Bliss is around 8 on the scale, Bliss is more than a state of Emotion, its in the realm of Realization, when in Bliss You realize somethings about Life, its much more intense than Happiness and is more permanent than Happiness, its not reliant on a outside Stimuli like Happiness, but is dependent on how you keep the Reallization Alive within Your Awareness and Consciousness. Ecstasy is 10, it is Bliss on Steriods, You cannot function physically or mentally very well when in Ecstasy, everything is beautiful for You, even the cold winter cloudy day, this is a temporal State, between physical and non physical and while You are here on this Earth You don't want to stay in Ecstasy states too too long, but once a day for a short period of time will do You wonders, and bring You to Your hightest potental and possiblity! -
The Amazing Power Of Psychedelics - Leo Does Magic Psilocybin Mushrooms! https://youtu.be/ypDRRcMKj7E Power of psychedelics for self-actualization: Leo is exploring psychedelics, specifically magic psilocybin mushrooms, for their potential to enhance consciousness and aid in personal growth, rather than for recreation. Immediate meditative and awareness effects: Upon consuming mushrooms, Leo experiences a heightened state of awareness reminiscent of the clarity one might feel after a 10-day intense meditation retreat, causing an immediate sense of amazement and hyper-awareness. Visual hallucinogenic effects: About an hour into the trip, Leo observes vivid, saturated colors and patterns that emerge on flat surfaces, displaying complex, tribal floral designs that are both hypnotizing and beautiful, reminiscent of ancient civilizations' atmospheres. Frequency and nature of psychedelic trances: Leo experiences powerful trances that repeatedly consume him during his trip, causing him to lose consciousness and sense of self. Upon emerging from these trances, he is left with profound insights and wisdom. Integration of experiences and education: Leo attributes his positive experiences with mushrooms to his extensive background in various disciplines like meditation, psychology, metaphysics, and non-duality, suggesting that this groundwork is crucial to how one perceives and handles psychedelic experiences. Duration of psychedelic effects: Leo's psychedelic experience with magic mushrooms lasted about four to six hours, with trance effects fading after four hours, leaving behind lingering patterns and sensations. Animalistic behavior during trip: Leo felt like he was behaving like a primitive creature during the peak of his trip, mimicking animal-like movements and experiencing a sense of being a creature raised in the wild without any language. Contrast between typical behavior and uninhibited state: The trip prompted insights into Leo's everyday reserved behaviors versus the uninhibited, authentic animal-like state induced by mushrooms. He felt his movements were more natural, loose, and authentic during the trip, offering a refreshing contrast to his usual restrained and artificial actions. Delusional aspects of the psychedelic experience: Despite having profound insights, Leo recognized the delusional quality of his trip. He found himself laughing hysterically and talking to himself as though he were having the most profound thoughts, only to realize later that some insights, while interesting, were not as groundbreaking as they seemed during the trip. Amazement at the human body: Looking at himself in the mirror, Leo was astonished by his own human features, experiencing a childlike sense of wonder and amazement at his hands, face, and the existence of his body. Visual hallucinations and self-perception: Leo observed luminous, flower-like patterns on his face, similar to tribal tattoos, which made him feel like a native from the Amazon. This was accompanied by a compelling visual of light rays emanating from behind his head, creating a halo effect. Ontological orgasm during the second trip: Leo describes experiencing an 'ontological orgasm' during his second mushroom trip, which gave him a profound sense of ego loss and the realization that his life's narrative was a complete fiction. Rapid onset and ego loss realization: With a quicker onset during his second trip, Leo felt a creeping sensation of ego loss, eventually leading to a powerful realization that his life's story was an illusion, culminating in a state of surrender to the psychedelic experience. Psychedelic narrative deconstruction: Leo discusses how psilocybin mushrooms can dismantle a person's life narrative, reveling in how the substance dismantles his own perceptions of existence, identity, and personal history, leading to laughter and a sense of absurdity. Meta-analysis of reality: Leo uses mushrooms to achieve a meta-state of consciousness, comparing his everyday life experiences with the hallucinatory mushroom state, leading to insights that transcend both realities and suggest neither is the ultimate form of truth. Ontological orgasm: Describing his philosophical insights as becoming tangibly real, Leo experiences what he calls an "ontological orgasm," a profound realization where the distinction between real and unreal, along with the concept of being born, dissolves into absurdity and laughter. Breakthrough to divine love: Leo details how his psychedelic experience culminated in a breakthrough into divine love and bliss, where tears of joy express his immersion into the infinite nature of existence. Non-dual perception and indiscriminate love: In his non-dual state of perception, Leo expresses love for mundane objects like a vomit bucket, treating them with profound admiration, and disregards conventional notions of cleanliness and impropriety. Time as an illusion: Leo views time as a human construct and an illusion, experiencing a permanent now that is disconnected from the traditional linear concept of time. Mundane transformed by divine love: Leo expresses profound love and beauty towards objects typically viewed as dirty or insignificant, such as a clump of pubic hair, lint, and dirt, perceiving them as manifestations of divine beauty. A prayer of profound gratitude: In a state of deep reverence, Leo's body becomes an instrument of gratitude, leading him to pray fervently, an action borne out of an overwhelming sense of the beauty and sanctity of existence. Experience of Praying: Leo felt a deep sense of the sacredness and beauty of existence during his mushroom trip, leading him to understand the true intention behind religious practices, which he believes are not about beliefs or rituals but about experiencing divine love and wisdom. Intense Non-Dual Awareness: Following his bathroom experience, Leo entered a state of thick non-dual awareness, feeling as though he had achieved full enlightenment and reached the wisdom of historical sages and saints. He felt that he had experienced nirvana and reached the pinnacle of enlightenment with nothing left to achieve. Feeling of Enlightenment Completion: During this phase of intense non-dual awareness, Leo had the sensation that his life was fully realized and that even death would be perfect. He was struck by the profound sense of completeness and perfection of existence. Desire to Share Insights: Despite feeling fully enlightened, Leo was overwhelmed with the need to share his profound insights with others, recognizing it as his life purpose. He was struck by a deep compassion to impart this wisdom to his audience. Challenge of Communication: Leo articulated the difficulty of sharing the ineffable, powerful insights of his experience with those unfamiliar with such states of consciousness, questioning how to communicate the experience effectively. Authenticity and Life Purpose Insights: From his psychedelic experience, Leo gained insights into the importance of authenticity and directions to take his work with Actualized.org to deeper levels, reinforcing his life purpose. Insignificance of Achievement: One palpable insight Leo emphasized was the realization that the concept of achievement and success is illusory and that nothing tangible needs to be achieved in life. Lasting Effects of Mushrooms: After his trip, Leo felt a lasting calmness, detachment, and increased resolve and motivation for enlightenment and meditative practices. His resolve was supercharged by the realization that such work is the only truly meaningful pursuit in life. Comparison of Existence Joy to Conventional Life: Leo experienced such profound joy and beauty in the state of enlightenment that it made all conventional life pursuits, such as business and family, seem meaningless by contrast. Psychedelics as Self-Actualization Tools: Leo believes psychedelics can offer a glimpse of the most advanced self-actualization concepts he has discussed, bolstering one's resolve for pursuing deeper work in meditation or self-inquiry. Depth of Societal Ignorance: Highlighting the pervasive ignorance in society, Leo suggests that most people live like a baby raised in a prison cell, never knowing there's anything beyond their confined reality, emphasizing the deep ignorance most people have regarding their own ignorance. Necessity of Direct Teaching: Leo defends his blunt and sometimes obnoxious teaching style as necessary to awaken people from their ignorance, suggesting that anything less would not be effective in encouraging the pursuit of true enlightenment. Understating the Significance of Enlightenment: Leo acknowledges that he might exaggerate the significance of enlightenment in his teachings, but asserts that anyone who has achieved non-dual awareness would see his statements as understatements, given the depth of most people's ignorance. Reaction to Enlightenment Teachings: Leo notes the defensive reactions he often encounters when challenging people's life values with his teachings on enlightenment, and laments that such reactions prevent the transformative potential of enlightenment from being realized. Teaching style of Zen masters versus Leo's approach: Zen masters may embody bliss and detachment without actively promoting their insights, often understating the experience of enlightenment. In contrast, Leo takes on the role of bluntly communicating the significance of these insights, aiming to provoke a shift in awareness in his audience. The challenge of overcoming ignorance: Humanity's primary obstacle throughout history has been ignorance, particularly regarding the truth of enlightenment. Sages and Zen masters have struggled to convey their knowledge to others who are deeply entranced by mundane life and dismissive of profound truths. Role of psychedelics in awakening: Leo points out that while psychedelics are not crucial for him due to his dedicated work in enlightenment, they can serve as a wake-up call for those indifferent to deeper realities, granting them a taste of what they're missing out on due to their limited vision. Responsibility and misuse of psychedelics: The misuse of psychedelics, whether for recreation, confirmation of spiritual beliefs, or as a shortcut, is often more psychologically damaging than physical. Psychedelics require a well-prepared mind and should be used responsibly, enhancing the work of self-actualization rather than replacing it. Misconception of psychedelics as an enlightenment path: Leo stresses that psychedelics do not lead to enlightenment and warns against the belief that they can be a substitute for the rigorous work required for true personal development. Psychedelics as tools for self-actualization: For earnest practitioners of self-actualization, psychedelics can be powerful tools that broaden their understanding and deepen their experiences, but should not be mistaken for the achievement of enlightenment. Harnessing psychedelics for therapeutic purposes: Beyond the quest for personal growth, psychedelics hold therapeutic potential for healing, addiction treatment, and providing insights into life, thereby kindling an interest in reality and truth. Anticipation for responsible psychedelic use: Leo announces an upcoming episode focusing on responsible psychedelic use for personal growth, promising to offer practical tips, discuss appropriate substances, and underscore the importance of self-actualization as the ultimate aim. Obliviate
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gettoefl replied to Ishanga's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
teachers are not worth the robes they clothe themselves in instead of speaking on esoteric bliss states tell us what happened when you got up this very morning and how you are maintaining that through the day have you meditated today? or this month? how often this year? yea? tell us about your practice schedule and what happened today; what insight did the time produce stop giving us thousand year old book knowledge to show how holy and wise you are tell us what the absolute shared with you today if you don't you're wasting our lives not just your own are you yourself enlightened? what does that mean and how is that impacting your activities today have you gone as far as possible in the path yourself if so what's your plan for today and if not what are you working on today can we just get real and drop the marketing spiel to the fawning masses be an ordinary example not a scripted caricature this is the only content i pay attention to whether from a teacher or from a forum only tell me about you -
I would say (as someone more than twice Your age), that Your a bit fragmented right now, too many goals and those goals probably are not even original too You, but picked up from watching others and what they are doing and supposedly living. I was lucky I accidentally walked into learning Wing Chun, I didn't intend to learn or teach any Martial art at Your age, but it came into my life and basically that is all I could think about for 5 or 6 years, since then I don't practice anymore but taught up until covid hit the scene so that was over 30yrs of teaching and research, so it was great for me. Since then in 2009 I found a Yogic Guru (Sadhguru) and use his practice to find Bliss and Enlighenment, but I research others, both Martial Arts and Spirituality are passions of Mine, I still work for a living, am married to a much Younger woman from a totally different culture than mine (never thought this would happen lol), and live in a terrible big city with all its chaos, I think of it as a spiritual challenge..So hopefully You find one or two things to focus on, that come Your way and Your super passionate about it, but first and foremost start a Yoga/Mediation practice, find a method that appeals to You, do it daily, make Yourself Happy and Healthy naturally, this will be with You your entire life and thereafter, the other things may come and go, but that won't and it will serve You well:)