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Look, it's easy to say such wise seeming things, but i don't care about socalled nondual wisdoms or shit like that. I can talk in such a way that you will believe that i'm the most awakened being in existence, it is easy to do that. You can say that everything is perfect, no need to focus on the dark, just be, you are existence itself, etc etc etc. But, trust me, i've read and listened a loooooot of such talks from a loooooot of socalled masters and so on. But you need to be honest with yourself and embrace yourself, and use your reason and intuition to find your own path. You don't know where anyone is, and what they need, and so forth. It is easy for us on this forum, or in videos and books and so forth, to pretend like we know what everyone is going through, and what they need and so on, and we a lot of that. But things are different when it comes to individual experiences of individual beings, you see. I can parrot all the spiritual teachers and masters and so forth, and i'd do that pretty good, but the real shit, the real understanding, is not in saying the wise looking words, but in truly accepting yourself where you are and being able to quiet your mind more and more, so that you will be more and more open to your inner awareness and intelligence. I don't say let's get lost in our fears and angers and so forth, but, at least for me, it is important to not say "oh these negative thoughts etc are just illusions" etc, because the frickin experience of them is real, and it is not always that easy to find your way through the shit that you are going through.

@Thought Art nah no such thing, that's another game. I've met deeply awakened nazi, that was terrible LOL, they even dropped 5Meo like smarties apparently. All kinds of strange things when you navigate in the abyss.

Yes, and that is no accident. You’d literally lose your mind if you understood way more than you can handle. Some states are simply far too radical for God as a human to comprehend. So trying to be the most awakened human being on the planet is a foolish goal.

This war is a very serious matter. The US, with its game of fuck the Russians by arming Ukraine and pushing it towards destruction, has awakened the bear. Now Russia is the military power of the world. No one can mobilize an army like that willing to fight to the death. This represents a big change. Once you know that you are the strongest in the yard, obviously you start to set conditions.

Donald Trump is the most awakened being on the planet next to Leo. He's just at the other end of the spectrum. Hehe

Haha yes being awakened don't mean much if you don't have health and wealth in this physical life at least. The foundation anyone needs is to first have good physical health, then mental and material wealth. Follow the Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It is not a must to follow but it is the ideal way to go about life in general.

I would probably have the same life, only that I would enjoy it to the fullest. Playing videogames...to the fullest. Enjoying the night...to the fullest. Making songs...to the fullest. Being alone...to the fullest.

My point was that if you can't explain it without awakening yourself than how can you be someone to objectively judge that there is someone more awake than yourself. Do you see how there is no objective reality to awakening- therefore there is not an absolute awakening that everyone has the same way. Thus, there really can't be a guy more awake than you once you've awakened. Here we can agree to disagree. My simple point is that awakening shall be independent of both pyschedelics and meditation. Both are triggers. But awakening is something prior to both. I just don't feel like Leo reached it via psychedelics. If you do - great- but note that it was because you were ready to awake - and it wasn't because of the psychedelics. Same goes for meditation.

Razard has covered all of what awakening is - as have I. Leo has as well but the problem is he didn't awaken himself. He did so via psychedelics but that ain't awakening. And now he thinks there is something beyond awakening. Beyond all things. Alien consciousness. Well - I hate to break the hard cold truth to you- but take it from someone who actually has awakened from the dream - this is a fiction.

"We are used to thinking of the Arabs as primitive men of the desert, as a donkey-like nation that neither sees nor understands what is going around it. But this is a GREAT ERROR. The Arab, like all sons of Sham, has sharp and crafty mind . . . Should time come when life of our people in Palestine imposes to a smaller or greater extent on the natives, they WILL NOT easily step aside." "…suddenly they find themselves in unrestricted freedom and this change has awakened in them an inclination to nepotism. They correspond the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes the despicable and dangerous inclination…" -Ahad Ha'am: Founder of Cultural Zionism

The wonderful part of this work, is the ones who have not awakened eventually get tired of pretending that they have. You can only pretend for so long to be what you are not. Eventually God gets tired of acting and trying to be a specific identity in the appearance of existence.

Osho made a very good point, that when Bodhidharma said that an awakened person drops their clothes, he did not LITERALLY mean to drop their clothes. Clothes was a metaphor for the egoic false self.

Let's just say I called reality's bluff. Let's just say after I awakened I still couldn't believe it so I did some crazy dangerous shit....and nothing happened. I won't share it because I don't know if it will happen for you the way it did for me. Let's just say...you have been severely deluded on how life works. This is why I said, if you don't confirm something for yourself it is just a belief. This is how you discover what is true and what is false. I don't even want you to believe anything I say because believing anything someone says is a waste of time. What you do is you do your own research, and if the research requires you to put some skin in the game and take risks you do it if you want the truth. If you don't, you admit you don't want to confirm it and go on your way. The problem is people want to skip steps in life and make unverified claims. I can tell based on what people say whether they are awake or not. Understand that the more rigid your mind is the more limits you have. For example one of the dumbest things the OP put is that dreams don't have continuity. Do you know how stupid that is? He actually believes that as an absolute dreams don't have continuity? That alone tells you he DID NOT DO RESEARCH. Do you know how many people have recurring dreams? PLENTY OF PEOPLE. Also notice he never talked about day dreaming. Is day dreaming not dreaming? Also notice he doesn't realize that thinking about the PAST is ALSO DREAMING. You see? He creates distinctions in his mind and actually thinks those barriers exist. His mind is like a child, and he actually believes he smart. Making claims that he has raised objections nobody has ever made....while actually NOT researching into the claims people have made. Do you know how self-absorbed and dishonest you gotta be to do no research and then make claims you are the only person to make those claims. My God the arrogance in that one. Like I can't even take this guy seriously....he doesn't have enough humility to know when he lacks sufficient information to make claims. Also.....there are multiple sources both academic and non academic that verify that reality is a dream/imagination. Leo isn't even the first to say it. Also...you can actually verify it for yourself like I did. I literally live in that state all the time. The problem is you have to risk your sanity. I went to the psyche ward 3 times, had a short term bout of uncontrollable hallucinations. Then after 3 edible trips I broke through permanently. Before those edible trips though I was shown it was a dream. Once I went to the void, the actual void. Everything disappeared and I was floating in a void. Once a multi-dimensional being appeared and tried to pull me away and I resisted it and it merged with me. Another trip time stopped. I walked outside and everyone was frozen still. This actually happened on two occasions the second time not as long. Another trip I walked outside and people around me walked in unison with me and only moved when I moved. Eventually I got tired of entering these states through substances and even with proof in front of me that it was a dream I got REALLY SERIOUS. I did something VERY STUPID on PURPOSE repeatedly, I was like if I am going to die for the truth I will. So I called the bluff and put my physical body on the line because even though I knew it was a dream I wanted to see if the dream would protect me. IT DID. ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. Not only did it protect me, it gave me an awakening out of the blue to share its love with me. The only reason I don't share this part because I don't want some idiot doing the stupid shit I did and actually ending their dream. I don't know why I keep being spared but for whatever reason I am spared. If you want to know what I did I'll message you but I won't share it on the forums. But yeah anybody telling you its not a dream is full of shit absolutely and cannot be trusted. In fact if they claim they know its not like the OP, they make Donald Trump look like a saint in comparison of how dishonest they are. This isn't to demonize them, they are just lying to get some attention.

**DISCLAIMER** Everything I write here is ultimately bullshit. The devil dressed himself up as god and declared: “I shall complete 1000 hours of strong determination sitting and cast out the devil once and for all!” God watched the proceedings silently ... How to perform an exorcism: Step 1: Be awake Step 2: Don't touch any “I” thoughts Step 3: Sit motionless for 1000 hours *** I've had more enlightenment experiences than I can count. I've also had a few near death experiences that have really catalysed my urge to wake up fully. I'm currently going through what Adyashanti calls the “got it, lost it phase” of awakening. He details this in his book The End Of Your World, its written for people who have experienced the awakened state and have fallen out of it somehow. Mooji, and Sadhguru also refer to this stage, where the battle against the mind (ego) begins in earnest. I haven't seen it been discussed much on this forum with the exception of this thread: I'm having authentic enlightenment experiences when my false “I” melts away, but I am unable to remain in that space throughout my daily life. My ego invariable creeps back in, like a zombie that keeps coming back from the dead and pulling me back into person hood. This process of popping in and out of truth is very painful and I've finally come to the realisation that if I am going to be enlightened I have to make a stand for my freedom. Yeah sure, there's no free will. Yeah sure, you can't plan enlightenment. Yeah sure, the “me” that wants to be free doesn't exist and the “me” that wants to be free can't wake up. All of that is correct. I know it's correct because “I've” seen it. The “I” that wants to awaken is a false “I”. It's time to become pragmatic about my journey, as Leo says “you're not enlightened until you're fucking enlightened”. Experiences are necessary steps on the path, but they don't count as enlightenment. Enlightenment has to be a living experience, flowing from one moment to the next, not a philosophy that “you” keep spinning. Adyashanti talks about this transition from experience to permanent realisation here Mooji talks about this same thing here As does Sadhguru here and here Osho Talks about the difference between learning knowledge and earning knowledge. Experiences are not earned knowledge. They all talk about putting in a special kind of effort to dissolve the ego. Who puts in this effort? A paradox, but one that must be overcome. I define my ego simply as “that which is resisting the reality of the present moment by means of distracting projections” If I follow Mooji's self-enquiry pointing or I listen to Osho and Adyashanti, through their words I gradually fall into a state of presence and then into "The Truth", the True empty self. This is not sustained, though. Shinzen young calls this getting a Guru Zap, and he explains the benefits of practising strong determination sitting here. This belief that I can't sustain enlightenment is itself a distracting projection i.e. a function of ego (as I define it). The resistance that is coming up now is immense, for good reason. As Mooji says in the video above: “You can't just have a cappuccino awakening, it has to be swallowed and digested and assimilated, then what you know, becomes what you are” The dialogue he has with this woman is really hitting home for me too. I'm now ready to walk through the fires of my own mind and free myself totally. I want enlightenment will every fibre of my being, because I am suffering the one who wants. This is the paradox of my predicament. I've chosen strong determination sitting and self-inquiry as my main techniques to assist in completing my surrender – all the way. Leo recommends self actualizing your way up to enlightenment by systematically working your way through Maslow's hierarchy of needs to get to transcendence. My game plan will be to short circuit. I can respect that most people would want to do this and that this will lead to a very fulfilling life. Personally though, I've been too far down the enlightenment rabbit hole to care about self-actualising, I'm not interested in "creating maximum happiness" so this is not the game plan for me, right now I'm just trying to relieve the pain of being asleep. However, I have found a use for some self actualising theory... To assist in getting the ball rolling I will be using some personal development principals to engineer the initial motivation to do about 6 hours of strong determination sitting per day. This will be like the energy that is needed to fire up a fusion reactor before it is able to sustain itself. As Shinzen Young explains in this video, initial (egoistic) effort is required to get started but eventually the habit of meditation will meditate itself. I watched this video by Sadhguru where he explains the value of desire over discipline. If the desire is strong enough, everything falls into place on its own. *** I will be using many of the techniques outlined in the actualized.org blueprint to help me artificially ramp up my desire to extraordinary heights, and help with self discipline. I'm not going to cover all of them, but the most important ones I've identified are: Vision: I have made a vision video (in place of a vision board) that is comprised of highly emotive, action oriented clips from various TV shows and movie's that I think are relevant to what I am undertaking. I can't upload the actual video because I don't want to infringe copyright laws but it's set out as follows: Part 1 – Breaking away from consensus reality; accepting the challenge and pain that is about to come Zaheer escaping from prison from the TV show Legend of Korra Jonas being selected at the ceremony of advancement scene from the movie The Giver Tris entering fear simulation from the movie Divergent Conversation on fear and laziness from the movie Waking Life Avatar Aang receiving turtle wisdom from the TV show Avatar The Last Airbender Neo speaking with the oracle from the movie The Matrix Karl Popper messaging Trinity from the movie The Animatrix (Kids story) Chemical burn Scene and realization of ego from the movie Fight Club Wood carving scene from the beginning of the movie Into the Wild Part 2 – Battling the Ego Avatar Aang vs Firelord Ozai Neo vs Agent Smith Karl Popper being chased by Agents Edward Norton vs Tyler Durden - final fight scene Part 3 – Transcending/neutralising ego Zaheer guiding korra into the spirit world Aang energy bending the Firelord Neo's crucifixion Karl popper letting go of the handrail Edward Norton shooting himself Final scene of Into the Wild Just do it. Title speaks for itself. Take Responsibility and Victim energy My idea of responsibility has changed recently. Again, thanks to Sadhguru. I have been blessed with an uncomfortable life, taking responsibility will make me wiser sooner than others. Willpower I like this idea of limited willpower. I will be removing all my current restrictions on diet, exercise, work, entertainment, sleep patterns and all other habits. I will be directing 100% of my willpower towards my meditation. If it is true that awareness alone is curative, the awareness developed in meditation will automatically rectify my bad habits in time. This video also has some great tips for managing willpower: Other important concepts: Identity level change Nominalized identity Outcome independence Contemplate Death Embrace paradox and Epistemology Emotional Labor Momentum States vs. Stages Limiting beliefs Force your mood *** Meditation setting, tracking and reporting I will be using the insight meditation app to track my meditation hours. I will not be tracking incomplete sessions. Only sessions over 1 hour will be counted. I have not set any daily minimums. I intend to change between periods of high and low volumes of meditation but I will need to average around 6 hours a day. I will carry out my meditation on my knees directly in front of a wall. Here is a picture of me pretending to exist: I will spend 5 minutes before each session reading the journal entry of the previous 2 sessions. I will spend 5-10 minutes at the end of each session writing down the thoughts and sensations that pulled me out of awareness and into identity. I've found this helps to keep track of macro thought processes. I have already completed 21 hours as I am writing this; I spent the first session fantasising about how I would write this forum post . I wrote that down and on the second session I was no longer distracted by this thought process because I became aware of it immediately. I was then able to inquire into it and resolve it. This is the function of the meditation journal. It's not possible to do self-inquiry without awareness. I will be uploading a screen shot of my timer stats every Sunday with any notes or experiences that I wish to report. I will also calculate and upload my current daily average, to tell if I'm behind or ahead of schedule. If I am unable to upload on a Sunday then I will be uploading as soon as possible thereafter. (I have already booked 2 Vipassana retreats which will run over a week.)

Depends on how you want to look at it. You could say God has never lived a life, because a life has a beginning and end and God always was. You could say infinite lives because God is infinity You could say life is just an appearance of nothing, so nothing ever happened You could say your life is the only life you know so if you have awakened as God this is the first time God has awoken. ^^^Depends on how you look at it.

So I made a mistake by trying to name my dog: God. While my intent may be pure but it doesn't go well with what God Is. As I contemplated and awakened more deeply here's what I realized: God is Everything. God is nothing. God is the substance as well as the character which is built from the substance as well as combination of all characters. God is Infinity. There's nothing but God. In that sense, Everyone's (every finite self's) name shall be God. To put it simply: Ego Is God. Yet God is not just ego. God is every ego. God is The Superset. I can only bow down now to God. And I see that I am just a spoiled bitch of God I have decided a new name for my dog which is Vision. I will bring Vision home in coming February. Until then I will get all my shit together: work, strong routine, convincing my parents, etc. I have already succeeded in convincing my parents to bring him however they are not as excited as I am. I want to create excitement about him in their mind. I don't want Vision to feel that he is "unwanted" to even a slightest degree. Now coming to something I wrote recently: My contemplation regarding 'Mistakes' Here's my pov on mistakes: - - Mistake is not a mistake if it's our first time making that mistake. It is just ignorance. We can overcome this through learning/awareness/knowledge. - Mistake is not a mistake if it's our second time making that mistake. It is our failure to learn from the first time. We can overcome this through upskilling our learning ability itself. How? 1. By becoming more observant 2. Making more distinctions 3. Behaviour change (Yes, they are taken from titles from Actualized video series about learning) - Mistake is not a mistake if it's the third time making the same mistake. It's arrogance which can cost a lot. We can overcome this by deep self reflection and resolving and dealing with the insecurity masking behind the arrogance. - Mistake is not a mistake if it's the forth time making the same mistake. Either it's someone who is completely sleepwalking. Or it's someone intentionally doing so(have no idea why, maybe for seeking revenge or something 🤔) This must not be tolerated. Through this contemplation; I am clear that mistakes are not at all about punishment and reward - There is consequence for every action we take. - Making mistakes is how we learn and grow. - It's something to be invited and embraced not feared or guilted. - The biggest mistake is not making any mistakes. So now that we have realized this, we have prevented ourselves from falling into the trap of making the same mistake again and again and thus turning into a failure/arrogant/sleepwalker/revenge-seeker. Congratulations to us!! To sum up what I want to say: Make Mistakes. Mistakes are good. It's a process of growth. Make this your mantra whenever you are dealing with fear of making mistakes: Your infinite mistakes are already Forgiven. Now you play!!!!

It took me a while to realize what I as God want. I think the reason why I wasn't hearing myself is because I thought that there are others who knew what God wants. It turned out that my deepest desire isn't what spiritual figures or books are talking about. I've had a plenty of break-troughs on psychedelics and my direct experience keeps telling me this - I want to sleep and live in a world of others where everything is foreign to me. That's why I like this game. A lot of you guys have fantasies about being in a God mode and just living life as an awakened human. This idea is laughable . If you have this assumption - you're fooling yourself, probably because you've never had a deep god realization. Every time when I wake up I want to get back to my imaginary life. Ego has nothing to do with it, it's God. Moreover, ego is the one who's using psychedelics in order to escape God's illusion. From God's point of view living in complete ignorance is more fun than being awake. You know why? Well, because God has nothing to do. For now I decided to stop doing psychedelics until I'm 40. Now I'm just 26.

Yeah, I bow all the time, hands in prayer pose, bowing. It’s a universal gesture of love and is empowering. I think some people here are too lost in intellectualising consciousness and that experience, that they end up getting stuck in their mind and on words instead of letting go of intellectualising, as it means nothing, feel from your heart, which is what you do, as that is the way. true enlightenment and the awakened state is wordless.

Nicely put. The dynamic and act are the same, the aesthetic is different. A distinction can be made that civilizational development amplifies the tools society has (technology, weapons etc) while cultural development awakens the consciousness of the user using those tools. The problem is modernity has amplified our tools to the point they can destroy the earth, but have we awakened enough to be able to wield that power well enough. it's easy to see the shiny buildings and sophisticated military and think 'oh their developed' and equate that with moral value and development.

How do you know what can be trusted then? You don't know. You rely on some sort of authority without applying direct experience. if you think that you can reach God's consciousness without psychedelics you're kidding yourself. I deliberately created psychedelics as a tool to re-awaken myself. I also created a bunch of mambo-jumbo techniques and so-called "awakened" gurus in order to trick myself.

I have had a dream with a version of Leo that was enlightened and simple. He spoke to me over skype, showed me his Ukulele, played it for a bit, his modest lifestyle and sweet girlfriend. He didn't speak to me a bout anything profound or nondual, rather it was all very ordinary and beautiful. Then he raised his hand or something (long time since then, i forgot the details) and within the dream I experienced how I merged with and became the entire dream and started moving as the dream rather than a character. Then I awakened from the dream. So you can say I awakened through Leo, like literally, not sensationalist spiritual statement.

Yes I have awakened through him, but also through Mooji, Babaji, Allan Watts, Tony Parsons and Ram Dass. Rupert Spira helped a little as well. All of them were important for my journey and surprisingly at certain points I didn't understand or resonate with them and then one day I just understood them deeply. It was really profound how it happened.

I've awakened in the form of Leo, and now helping this form by transmitting him what i've awakened to, to the degree that he's able to allow. And this form also is helping me in different ways. Being dancing with being.

HAHAHAHH I love the fact that after you wake up you still populate people who try to debunk the dream. It is freaking hilarious!!!! DUDEE!!!! I don't care what you have smoked!!! What you don't understand...is if you don't want to awaken...YOU WON'T. So you can argue all day long. I know for fact you are full of shit because....when you awaken you realize you can only awaken if you really want too. And I mean REALLY WANT TOO. The biggest barrier to awakening are the following things. Fear of Death, Fear of Insanity, Fear of everyone you love being imaginary. Until you are willing to accept THESE THREE THINGS. YOU WILL NEVER AWAKEN!!! So until you face these fears...YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!!! You are just pretending you know what's going on and are too selfish to actually risk anything to find the truth. The part I loved the most is when you accused people of just parroting what they heard....if you haven't fully awakened...that actually describes YOU. The jokes on you. You are GOD DELUDING YOURSELF!!!! God made discovering itself a test of HONESTY!!!! The most dishonest people are the people who are asleep. Your TRUTH is CONDITIONAL. YOU CAN BE BOUGHT!!! At the slightest possible danger you will RUN AND HIDE!!!! Because you are not willing to give anything up. That's why awakening is the MOMENT OF TRUTH! And it reveals the TRUTH OF WHO YOU ARE. What kind of character you have raised...is this character a true seeker of truth? Or are they too self-absorbed. It's that simple. No judgment....but all it means is you care about your human self than you do about all of existence. If aliens created a bomb to wipe out all of existence, you wouldn't die for all of existence...you'd want somebody else to do it. Again no judgment...that is just the limit of your love and honesty and integrity. You have a price. Your a business man.

I tried submitting a poll, but some kind of error occurred. Anyways, I'll do it here instead. Given his current trajectory, when do you predict Leo will become enlightened? I'm not talking about satori and psychedelic experiences here and there however profound; I'm talking about full-blown, God-level sahaja samadhi akin to what Jan Esmann and David Spero have. a) less than 1 year b) 1-3 years c) 5-10 years d) 10+ years